3.1 Hype vs Irrelevance

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, welcome to episode 31113.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm defensive this morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How's your week?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the shirt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Val or Michelle.

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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So my week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, um, did I say last week that my law just died?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you defatched it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for lending that to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I've attempted to lay some grassy and some's growing, which is great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but every single time I open the door to do whatever because, you know, I have kids, male, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe my house sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: thousand birds leave my lawn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you ever cover it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like I feel like snow white in a Disney movie where and then you do like all these birds are just fluttering around me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Could I remember there was a dog on the way?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was thinking about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like forget it, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's not gonna work anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's true whatever reason my lawn's been hating my work might not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna spend a couple hundred dollars on

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the dirt that I normally buy is just like first small patches, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or for gardening, but, man, it's like the majority of my front lawns, so not that'd be a few hundred bucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been in the birds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, are you watering it or have you been just hoping on the right a little bit, but the reason that I wasn't such a hurry the day that I borrowed your Deep that you it was because it was a wonderfully rainy week coming up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We only have like one day of rain though No, it's been a few and the evenings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's been lots of rain too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's been nice that the soil's been moist all the time the grass is grown But it would have been really nice to see what all the seeds would have done

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and I look around and not on anyone else's yards that are also planting seeds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're nice and thick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, well, my wife's big into bird feeders so well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, then there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're used to being around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I plant seed, she gives seed, not a good compliment for the birds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they don't really listen to the signs that I put up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Please don't snack here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Please don't over there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Please get in line on the branches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, anyway, but now it was good, um, oh, so I went for a walk with my kids, one of those awkward walks where they're on their bikes because they're stoked to be on their bikes, but I don't have a bike, so I'm walking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is one of those like, hey, let's go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's like they keep going back and forth because I'm so incredibly slow and I'm, I'm incredibly slow for slow people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, anyway, we're walking around a big park that's nearby and walking by one of the many playgrounds that's around this path.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And all of a sudden, somebody yells out, Hey, nice shirt!

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, ignoring it because with the heck, it's going to be talking to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, yeah, P.O.E.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and I'm like, well, no way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and I look and I'm wearing a path of Excel shirt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even know I was wearing a path of Excel And I'm looking around like I just met my best friend in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, what's going on?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do it's in like a train little kid train.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like sticking his head out like the engine door there is like Like a shirt after make I contact with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, like no, no, he's he's a grown adult, but he's playing He's like yeah, he's like six feet tall, but he's like small little two foot train

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, look, shirt, that's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, yeah, big patch coming out because point one wasn't out yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, yeah, looking for a few, we too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So totally different pages.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just still.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was recognized in public in our town.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't have to drive across the province for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I, I mean, merely panic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But sure, I was recognized.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you almost had a conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's playing with his kid in the train, like he didn't talk too much POE all of a sudden.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, Dad, Dad, who'd the horn?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I appreciate you individual in the train.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was part.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a good week that was it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How about you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was good, busy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a work I've been continuing on my walking trend, which has been a lot fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was mostly, we finished watching 7th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We finished the second season of 7th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man, that show is crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, first season takes a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's definitely a lot of like build up, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's a lot of intro to stuff and getting you super.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, the end of season

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's mostly the week, like I had meetings and then hung out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I did have my doctor appointment, like getting prepped for my first procedure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're hoping to do it on the 14th of October.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're first procedure 14th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First procedure of, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's two weeks away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I got a file still.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to wait until it's a find out if it's actually going to be the 14th, but he said around the 14th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully it's not longer than two weeks, which would be great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You should postpone it like your forsake to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See what happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, for science.

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[SPEAKER_01]: precise just to find out but yeah no it was you know what it was a I can't plan the week was pretty good it was busy and I played right play a little bit of borderlands but I kind of like kind of got a bit bored of borderlands which I knew I would and then

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a, I don't even know, I had a, I saw a buddy on my steam plane, this one game, and I was like, what is that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I looked at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like one sale for 10 bucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, okay, I'll try it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Omega, make a bonker, make a donker, something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like a, you know, like risk of rain style, like where you're just, you're, you're going to die, but you're just constantly,

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[SPEAKER_01]: getting your guy a bit better, unlocking new things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what those are called.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, it's that style of game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Rogolite?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, you're referring to the trials of Sechema.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not, well, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had played a game that Ethan had originally told me about years ago that was a similar style I wish I could remember what it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very, like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know old school graphics, you know, not very impressive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is definitely not impressive on the graphics, but for some reason it's so much fun because you can just spend like a little bit of time and whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I killed time with, but otherwise, man, the week was, yeah, I was just work getting my walkin' in, which just felt great, and then yeah, good sleep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's good, good week, good week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do we got here again?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my lawn I did have the grubs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had I had a treat of for grubs this week too Not having those freaking crows and raccoons wreck my garden again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I go, Fran.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, but cool I don't you're a lot and we talked about your lawns.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not trying to catch up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're running very into you, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, like you're doing okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Normally you do that in your head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're doing okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's just a few things I was trying to read at the same time and that does not always work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, Mr. Ventus for getting our butts in gear for this league's privately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the one I was wearing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, my job is getting it right as you're like all right and lawns.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so our our privately is coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're already posted in our discord and you're welcome to join.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It starts soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to play better this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We can have today because yeah, it's like when this comes to something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we chose for us anyway, my anniversary weekend and thanksgiving weekend, but life's busy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to pick one and so I won't be starting right away, but hey, actually I might be able to start right Ish away Ish because my wife just worked a long anniversary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I can guilt free play on my anniversary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so this the October 10 runs for 10 days the hardcore trade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just regular hardcore because Justin's lame and trade is lame and so we're doing it because lame was the theme of this private league and we apologize for it being so close to what's probably the 327 release.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's perfect timing, but by total chance because we lacked the foresight, it was Mr. Ventus on Discord that was reminding us that we hadn't done a 326.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We thought we did a 326.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did a 326.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was because we did too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just recently did our 325 privately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was we did that when you know 325 was what 10 or 11 months old and it was like just after we started the private league that they announced for last one of the three was coming out Our last one was the one that ran from us for a month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then just after that was when they announced the timing of 326 and it came out relatively quick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where we got all kuffuffled, but didn't mean to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fix it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anywho, private league, 10 days, hardcore, path of excel 1, and since now we're in kind of like this mumbo jumbo of PC only.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Joining everything together, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Path of excel 1 is platform independent and so it is PC only.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's right on this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Get the joiner discord.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just to click the link you link.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's your announcements.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's for status amongst discord.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So good luck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I never even got my stupid badge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot that because you're just a rad dad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, so um, I'm in love with the new patch that came out this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you play it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yes, I did, and I love it, but I'm also really, really frustrated with complete, and like really frustrated with two separate things that have nothing to do with the patch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want me to get the two super crappy things out of the way quickly?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You do it, everyone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to just talk about the good things?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we got to, I mean, we usually do what's happening this week in POE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that what we're starting with?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just what, just Tyler is what grinds his gears.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So remember, I don't remember the exact wording, and maybe if I go back, the exact wording might be exactly what is currently happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you remember when there was this account merging business that was happening and this was even before the private league started, or sorry, before the beta even came out, it was like a month and a half, they started doing this account merging, but and that stuff mostly mattered for console players that also played on PC, but there were some other varieties of things that happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and basically it wasn't like your accounts could be merged so that you could select between accounts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't like they combined into one account, but it was like you could have a parent account where you would then have a dropdown menu of two accounts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That wasn't really well explained in the thing and that was something I discovered after the fact, but there was a time when they said that you could merge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a one time thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They made it so life or death, but there was a time where you could merge your accounts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Take all your mtx from one account and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, so it's October.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It has now been a year since I have emailed them regarding this originally because it was last fall, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the debate was supposed to come out November, but then it was delayed till December and the account merging.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe it came out like the September October timeline, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it was supposed to be a month before the release date of the beta.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm now getting responses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Saying, like, I originally emailed them like, hey, I would like my MTX to be merged over to one account.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm now getting responses a year later regarding this, and the replies are coming relatively quickly, which I'm thankful for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if there's just been a mistake or what, but they are asking for every single transactions ID number to transfer over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like to move from your Xbox to your PC account from my PC account to my Xbox account.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They want every single transactions ID number.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, either I was supposed to have saved my emails for the last 10 years for an MTX purchase?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They must be on your account though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Igo on the website there's no transaction details at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It either tells me that I bought a hundred points on this date or I bought this MTX, but I can't click if I click on any links it just brings me to the store.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no history.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that's valuable that they need that's on their website.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you doing something different than what they had originally said?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because there's no way they were doing that for everybody during whatever they were.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I see that's the mind boggling thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is going on?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I have 12 pages of mtx on their website.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have 12 pages of transactions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They want...

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[SPEAKER_00]: 12 pages worth of individual transaction numbers this was their system when they offered this for everybody like what if you wanted to switch everything over to console you don't have 1000 pages.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm thinking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just got to be something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been cheap with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have been cheap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're asking me to go on steam and go back 10 years of transactions and get individual transaction numbers for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and or if I paid on my visa, what is it they call it hang on let me there's a company that they use for their visa transactions it's a whole or something is there but that's recent for their and then they want me to contact exola customer support to get the transaction numbers so they actually want to there's something hundreds of transactions it this there's

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be something else that we're willing to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for everyone, yeah, no way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now do we maybe understand a little bit as to why it's taken a year for this kind of, this is mind-boggling to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there's something missing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't make any sense at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if that was the system, don't offer it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was that like a one-to-one thing that you had to do through the account, like through your online account, or was it actually back then that you were supposed to email them to say that you wanted to do it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we were supposed to email customer support at that something that we wanted and then they could do a one time transfer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, we're interested in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember the exact same wording, but irrelevant to the wording, it has been absurd that I have to go through and get hundreds of transaction numbers for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You think they would have?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I hope that's the only step I need to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, a crazy customer service that that's put on me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that they offered the service knowing that that would be put onto the customer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, did I can't just say, I want all my MTX on this account.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, how is that service offered if that's not how it works?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess that's where they can't just do it through the whole account.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why they can't just take you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, that's weird to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So irrelevant of how it works.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just weird that this is the process that they were fine with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's absolutely crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the thing is is I made purchases after the fact

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[SPEAKER_00]: on a specific account, expecting the mall to eventually be on one account.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not knowing it would take this long, and if I can't find the transaction numbers, I can't do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy that they can't do that for me if I can't find.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what if Xola doesn't have...

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[SPEAKER_00]: 10 years worth of transaction history or they only send me seven, but I ended up having 13 transactions and for some reason, there's not enough for steam on the whole dessert like it's crazy weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, that was extremely frustrating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt as a customer like it was just absolute trash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No criticism again to the customer service department.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Customer supports always been very kind professional.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wonderful to me, they don't pick the processing, they don't pick the coding, they don't

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they've all been wonderful inpatient with me, but like just the process itself is a very disrespectful process to the customer that's for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a year already and now like I have all this to do that that's crazy that their system does not provide that for themselves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, maybe they're trying to move away from that all transactions you buy now are for the most part compatible on both.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they are trying to get out of an old system, but it's still crazy that it was offered without any hint as to how much work would be involved, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I've made again purchases based on the assumption that this was a customer friendly process, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was frustrated with that, but that's done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just very disappointed with it all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very, very frustrated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't make me want to spend any cash with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then the other thing I'll save for another time, or I won't even bring it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's game related, but I want to talk about how great point one is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's going to be the official patch notes, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I, but I looked at this week in POE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't actually, yeah, there is, there is something I want to discuss that's not about the patch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, oh, actually two things, but, did you see the stuffy that they came out with?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I saw somebody posted it in Discord, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if you're not American, you're rich, what do you mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, because it's a $65 stuffy for Canadians.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's what those people think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The industry and then you have to pay for shipping.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pants 70 bucks for stuffy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I saw it's bigger than I was thinking it was going to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very, it's a cool idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So enjoy it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Americanos.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there was a really cool interview again with musician.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's actually as for getting on to the, you were watching it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, isn't that cool?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so Thomas Carroll has a lot of really cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, the world is very picky about PC stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know the proper term, but like, I was going to say, indigenous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the indigenous stories are cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where they are, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: it was really cool to see like he's making his own instruments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The musician he makes them is plays them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And even cooler when you get to hear how they pull it into the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It really, really don't think about that kind of stuff as you're playing through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you hear the noise, you think all that's really cool, but you don't put together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what's gone into putting that sound into it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's very passionate, not just about the performance of it, but the history and the passion and the respect of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he has, it's very important that it's well respected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it was really cool to hear him speak about it all, but another thing that I really like because every culture is different, they all have their own histories.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of, sure, GGG can hire from all over, but at some point, people are eventually immersed in that culture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I don't know where the people are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they were born and raised in New Zealand or not, but there was a couple of people's facial expressions and voices that you could hear from the GGG staff, assumeably from the GGG staff that were around while he was either performing in the recording room or the display room and their faces were just,

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[SPEAKER_00]: really impressed or enamored like it was really really cool and they were even hitting on a little bit too which is awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll wet that up for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But um yeah no like it was really cool to see their faces and the respect and appreciation that there was there as well and they're more involved in the situation of course because of their so it was just really really neat especially for somebody on the west coast of Canada to to see that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love seeing how they pull us off in the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, the fact that they did show like clips from the game where those sounds are or used.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just it's I really like that they're starting to do all of this because it just adds that extra appreciation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You would go through that whole game and not once ever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at my face, hey, you can't even see my eyes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hang on a sec.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I take off my glasses and all of a sudden my head just doesn't even hear your Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just see like the outline of a beard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, hang on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to stand up and fiddle with the blind so you can see me better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're gonna get a lot of my belly rubbing on my microphone so just a moment please.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you making no worse?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shut up, I'm in, you're like my wife.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in the process of fixing, it's not fixed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's every step of me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shut your face, I'm still missing the book of Matthew by the way, shut up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I hate you so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't look like you decreased the amount of light yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mids, bro.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's Mids, there's someone there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what it sounds like, but the sun is shining directly on my face and my camera's not great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so my face is literally just like, it's just light.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not even a white face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's simply light.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's this five o'clock shadow kicking around this white light.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Depending on how you hold yourself, oh, that's even worse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Depending on how you hold yourself, it's an egg with some meat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a beard at the bottom, I think you just leave it, it's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Thomas Carroll, that was really interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And thank you, GGG for doing that because it just, the next time I go through the game, it's like, you know, every time we chat with Camilo or whatever, it's like, the next time you go through the game, you just have this extra appreciation for everything that's happening and you, and you hear the sounds, but then you never forget the sounds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like that one time, hang on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's on your mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a hair band or something?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a hair band.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, obviously.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a hair band.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's my ball choker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was wondering where that went.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, oh, is that better?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm still... You need to look perfect, but yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really liked it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I was late for getting on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, and it's awesome, but it's just one of those things where, like, I remember a long time ago, this might have been at the...

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[SPEAKER_00]: very first exalcon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're talking 1980s, in 1990s, and some of the employees that were making maps, they were talking to the asked about their favorite maps, or some little things that they may be of hidden in the game that were fun that they didn't really have to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was the haunted mansion map.

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[SPEAKER_00]: remember that and the pictures and I never noticed this until I they said that and then it became my favorite map even though it's not my favorite map I hate the layout but it's my favorite map because when you would go close to the pictures the paintings on the walls

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[SPEAKER_00]: The pictures would change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be nice family pictures, and then as your character got closer, it would be horrific or the opposite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forget which way I went, but the pictures, they were nasty, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there was some gruesome ones or some really horrific ideas that would stick in your mind after because of what, the kid's situation was in the painting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so like I love learning those little things because then all of a sudden that's like, all of a sudden this one part of this map is gonna be my favorite because of the instrument that I can now hear and know what I mean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it doesn't go away, it stays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, so yeah, I was great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now we went over this last time or like not the patch notes, but what was coming for their changes?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I have been met good Lord.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just looking through the patch notes down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a freaking new release.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're a novel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's good one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely worthy of the point one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do want to play it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just haven't yet, but I do plan to play it, because I want to see what the end game's like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're a busy playing trials of Sechema.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I just didn't have a ton of time, so it is what it is, but...

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would like to point out that, you see, when you feel like playing trials of Sekima, you can load a separate game to play it, you don't have to have it in a different genre game and completely ruin the point one path, but one of the other things I want to say because I was put it in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love, yeah, but you're a character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're just, you're just, you just make me mad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was loving the changes to mapping.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So did you actually come to things that I can point?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I tried to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love to, but then I got to a stage where.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All these currency items were dropping that would give me another ascendancy point, and I've been waiting to get to that item level, that map level, and I'm like, sweet, all right, let's go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to do three bloody floors of the trials of Sekima.

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[SPEAKER_00]: irrelevant to if it's your links in that work if I suck at it yeah you have to do it it sucks that's not why I turn on the game so it's one of those things where it was you can make all these great changes you have all these employees working hard you have all these employees doing really cool music

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm turning on the game for the ARPG.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I actually, there were two nights this week where I didn't play because I did not want to play a roguelite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to play an ARPG.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The problem is, I just didn't really because I'm a stage of my characters at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the thing is though, and I don't, I don't actually agree that this is a good choice in a direction, but the fact is you can make trials a second, that easier to run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can make it so it's not a major part of your gameplay because you're just doing it to a send, but it takes some work and I don't think that that's the direction they should be going where I have to spend time to make that one process easier just for the one sake of a send and sending.

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[SPEAKER_01]: However,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can make trials a secume easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can make trials a secume a relatively simple thing to go through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You will still end up in this R&G process, just don't like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it doesn't have to be that trials a secume is like your whole experience when you're getting on to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just is unfortunate that it is centered around such a major part of your character development.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it kind of sucks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it is dumb that it's based around ascending, but the dumb thing is if I don't like that genre, I have to play that genre to make that genre easier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't have to play that genre as much like I have to do the trials to get the relics and it's the relics that make every run easier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just a bad combo if.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like the genre, and whether I like the genre or not should be irrelevant because I didn't turn Path of Exile on for the genre, for that genre, I turned it on for the the core genre.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but I mean, I didn't want to get into it, it was just that was frustrating for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I intentionally didn't play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had two good sessions of Point One, and then I had more time where I was really excited to play, and I chose to turn on Prime, Amazon Prime, and said, and what shows because I didn't want to deal with Charles II.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I do understand that part of not wanting to do the trials, but I also think like if you had Just spent some time on it with like it sucks because to make it easier you have to do it more often because you need to get some of the relics and stuff

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, like, there's a part of it where you're choosing the floor, but the, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can go on both sides of this argument, because I've bitched to no end about trials and not liking it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not based on my build, uh, but I also know that you could set it up where it is pretty negligible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you just finish it just to get out of the way so that you can get back to what you want to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying it's a good direction for the game to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what is that noise?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're making popcorn to your cats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can get it right close to the door Are they scratching at it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what are they doing like what are they there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a toy I think they're playing with I'll go throw it away Oh, I don't care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just curious what it was good light

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, now I'm extra mean because it's something they shouldn't have been playing with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So instead of just tossing it to the other side of the room, I just took it away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, now they hate me mean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, that like I didn't mean to get into is just that it kind of decision-making, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you try and shove all this stuff into one game, impacted my experiences.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got a super excited for point one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then one of my sessions I spent, I did like four trials.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hated every second of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got better and better relics.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I progressed further and further.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hated the experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's irrelevant of the progression for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the fact that I have to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's not why I turn the game on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not the genre I'm excited for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited for the pass of tram, excited for the support.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited to kill enemies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I mean, you could level up even further to get to the higher tiers and then just do it through the ultimatum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, the one thing that's always weird to me is that there's not a tier of ultimatum that works for for your third ascendancy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's only the fourth one, which I've never quite understood that, but that those aren't dropping for me at just trying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not way higher for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you, you, you will start to get them to drop now, but they'll be like, they're not equivalent to being able to get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is no third ascendancy version for of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there were some really cool things happening in the mapping experience as well, which was earlier in the week, and I absolutely loved those experiences, so I would like to focus on that because I had no intention of being negative.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just had again, it's irrelevant of point one, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, I'm really laughing because that word, I hope it's in the session.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of a relevant today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was frustrating for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fucked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell me about the mapping.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, one thing that I thought was hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When GGG posted the YouTube video for the musician.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, they posted in the comments first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was really awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So path of exiles YouTube channel did first on that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So whoever did that, oh, you're your fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't get along well with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if they do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if they do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's funny though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, totally would be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there was a hilarious, in point one, there was a couple, not hilarious, but kind of these posts or notes that go, like, the player kind of like stares at it for a little bit and then it just goes straight to the wiki.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When calculating chance to hit, when calculating chance to hit versus players or their minions, we now use the following formula and then they give the math in the final.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I'm like, okay, cool, uh, didn't know the formula before because it doesn't say what it used to be, and so you just know that that's going straight to the wiki and then whoever it is that deals with things like, um, third party tools, you know, that will be added right away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's a mark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a mark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, but I love that it's in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what am I supposed to do with that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I don't know any, I don't know if that makes it better or worse, there was no like discussion like no post underneath that said this will make it do this this and this instead of this, this and this so whatever the reason is like this is a buff or something

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[SPEAKER_00]: How would that be great, and then there's another comment that was similar to a character panel estimations for player accuracy, armor and division now use maximum monster level 82 for calculations previously 84.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you're looking at your armor defensive mitigation evasion or accuracy in your character panel, it's assuming the enemy is always level 82.

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[SPEAKER_00]: probably, um, the, I just hope that's in the game to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's important.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise, the stats are relevant like Path of Excel 1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to know we didn't before, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you happen to be trying to be different than Path 1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just hoping that it's in brackets, somewhere in the game on that character path.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What was that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do different after you like to get it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you knew that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, because before

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[SPEAKER_00]: because then it's an irrelevant stat, just like in Path of Exile 1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you had, if that's the way it wasn't Path of Exile 1, the stats matter then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, why is it that they're knowing what it's based off of?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What am I missing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, because in Path 1, we assumed...

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[SPEAKER_00]: because we couldn't see what those stats because we knew then the physical damage mitigation from armor was based on enemy level and it became less relevant to higher the enemy level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, when you're in your hideout, it wouldn't change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you were in your in a map, in a level 72 map, that wouldn't change from your hideout.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the number didn't change based on your location.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you had no idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: just like kind of like how, um, resistance worked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it didn't tell you, actually show you the negatives really well, like the math just for the additive math for resistance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Based on where you were, it just, it was flat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you knew in Path of Excel one that this was always based on an enemy level 82, all of a sudden that stats not useless anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you know what's

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I don't know that knowing that my evasion is based off what I'm seeing is based off of an enemy level 82 makes any difference to me at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that I don't know that I would change any knowledge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know for me it wouldn't that doesn't benefit me to know that it was a that it's based off of an enemy level 82, at least for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In Path 1, there was a reason it was useless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're in Path 2 and it hasn't been in Path 2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't know that it was based off 84.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So all I'm saying is like, I'm not sure what knowing that it's based off 82 changes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just in pointless in Path 2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they gave you no information on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't like in the game now when you click on a vision or you click on armor it says this this is how it works and then you know it gets like a little bit worse the higher the enemy level and you need to have higher investment for it to still maintain its value at a higher enemy level says that in the game so now you need to know what your enemy level is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, unless that's changing or not on your map, but you need to make decisions in your Hido, you have to be able to make decisions in your Hido.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I feel like if you, for me, if the resists were like, hey, it's based off of level 65, which is when you get your most whatever, that makes a difference to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But for a vision and armor,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like all I was ever doing was just getting it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, increase it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't matter, like resistance is different because you knew that it was decreasing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, like 10% but I think it's 10% or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember how they have it set up in POE2 because of this new interlude section.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that part makes sense to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't get how evasion, if my evasion is currently showing 37%.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Knowing that it's based off of an enemy level 82.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess is beneficial, but in the end,

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what if it was based off of an area level 69?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What would that change for me?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would I not... Because now you're not in my way higher than it would be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're planning for the future.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're planning to get to 82, but you're currently in level 70 maps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What if your stats are based on your current map, your last map that you did?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What does that change for me though?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Am I changing how I play?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like in the end, all I'm still trying to do with my gear in my stats is to get them to go up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's cap division because of a low monster and it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree when you're talking about stuff that caps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know of, I don't know if I armor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know farm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's 90% in path to I get my, especially now that we've been talking PL like in my mind this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been like, OK, well, what build am I going to play and like, how does poison?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, poison stacks on its own.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could have infinite poison stacks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I remember what was it in like after dark?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, how do you get support gems again?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I couldn't even remember how it worked and how it's rocketing worked and then I was like looking around and I'm like, oh man That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have a half to have a a certain like I have to have way more strength Way more strength right if I want three red gems I don't just need 15 strength anymore, so like my my stats of what is in what game is all over the place I'm just saying

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad to have it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope it's a video talking about a cap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I do agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you were playing I'm just in my head first off I don't think I don't even know if armor has a cap and it does it if it does it's a magic number that I've never heard of before but I that I agree with you if you're basing it off of like your cap You know and you don't want to be putting more than you need to that I told you understand But in general, I'm just thinking like if I've got 37% evasion

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[SPEAKER_01]: going into the map, it doesn't make a difference to me what end of me level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's against because all I'm going to try and do is increase that 37%.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do understand what you're saying when you're talking about a cap, that I get.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, especially once it gets to into a redundant stage too, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you also want to know when you have a higher, when you know your stats are compared to a higher level.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you want to know if it's like okay so I'm actually getting like 50 more evasion on this is that worth it right do I want to lose this for the sake of that and then 82's not going to be your monster cap anyway so it's nice to know that okay maybe overcapping is a little bit better because I'm getting into 84's eventually nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there was a lot of really good changes like like we're talking like the tablets, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the the waste stones and you tried those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then there's the yeah, so it's actually really cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm using things apathetically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not min-maxing anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I'm not going to get my character to the full extent that it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: basically just using what I have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm blowing my currency on everything that I can I finally got capped resists, which was nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Makes a big difference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I wasn't going to put a socket on something that rolled like light radius and accuracy when I'm doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: minions and curses, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm still waiting for something that's worth throwing a couple results on or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so you know, I do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the best item that I ever made in the game, uh, gotten naturally replaced that exact same that next map by something that rolled like 4% greater on one resist, but then added the second resist that I never ended up getting on the other ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, it was it was funny, definitely Mother Nature, no, sorry, Murphy's Law there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was, it was just neat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm, I'm using my dad for the assistance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The numbers go on to about that last week and you're like, I used one, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it, it was fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just a benefit of like a better regal in most cases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's, it was fun to play with because one thing in this patch, Alx can work on magic items now and I love that and not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to see like I'm doing pure energy shield stuff so it wasn't tedious for me to oh there's a blue TR that dropped cool okay there's a blue focus that dropped there's some blue energy shield boots like it was actually hoping for something because then I could use an alchonic right oh interesting so the alch doesn't maintain doesn't retain the original magic item modifiers it doesn't where do you read that says you can now use orb of alchemy oh magic items when used on magic

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what is it doing is it just throwing for what the heck why I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, then I was Being picky about my blue items for no reason that just means that there's twice as many white items on the ground That's all it does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the exact same thing as a white item.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just giving me Yeah, they basically just see the base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's I guess that the base so trousers

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alks aren't common anymore, but why are you dropped in white items?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what's the difference between a regal, a regal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just go from one modifier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And an elk guarantees four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the difference now between a regal and an elk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the regal also maintains the modifiers of the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's got to change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well the problem is I get I do get it a bit because otherwise it becomes better than a regal in most cases because you could put it onto a magic item and it gets two items instead of a regal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but they're rare.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't it's fine to have better items.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, maybe I'm missing the elk benefit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It actually doesn't make any sense to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would rather roll.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, well, I certainly would rather roll a regal and then exalt something if I was really trying to craft it versus the elk in a magic item.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless I just don't want to see white base types because I don't want to ever use transmutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not really sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because you're getting now through crafting recipes now just like vendering your stuff, you're getting regals and chant shards, right, like if you're doing unique, so get a chance and then if you're doing regals or you're getting regal shards from the rare stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would anybody want an elk?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you're guaranteeing yourself for random properties.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I only have reduced anyone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's the elk and the chaos that are the super rare ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I only used elk mapping.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I only used them for math, so I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I never used them for crafting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's thing I'm over last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I keep thinking gear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just thinking gear, but to me that's way more important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd rather have wicked gear in one run like white maps because some of the mods are still really stupid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but the one thing I'm still loving about path to like that was one of the experiences while I was playing the point one and it really enjoyed the crafting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really trying to figure things out and experience and see the boss name on the side of the map instead of like kill all the rares.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen anything else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You what the actual boss name is, which is really cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you're going and looking for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's like, okay, first of all marked on the mini map, like do you still see, oh, they're not at all it's it's path one path one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, interesting except with a couple extra cool series, but now you kill the boss and it's like, okay, like these areas are still huge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So in the higher tiers, I still would clear them, but right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it's like, okay, it like I know it's a long map, but that's the least I can speak to you on the board.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, so yeah, so there was a lot of really, really cool aspects to it, and so it was nice to kind of get used to, though I didn't recognize that part from the patch notes where Alex worked that way, but it was it was fun to get used to and I had a really good time with it, but I forget what I was going to say about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to try today, before we do after dark, because I would like to see what the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, that's cool though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you got some time into play after I have yeah, it's all up to date.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I will I will play it today before we do after they added 779 Boyle unique.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are those even from now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that I think those are the purchased unique people could have?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, those ones are still available.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that upgrade.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the path of Excel to beta tier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a little the highest tier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then like a couple of the even the little extra things that you expect to be in the game, but they're nice now that they're in the game and it's just, you know, you go through the process you can't complain about it, but now that they're in, it's nice and you take it for granted, you know what I mean immediately, but little things like when I go into the search bar into the menu and then I leave and I do my thing and then I come back, now my search is still there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have to retipe it every time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that a setting?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you have that turned on or off in the settings in the options?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like that's just for like my stash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if I had the same thing in my stash, merchant UI, and I mean, I can obviously, I think it's fine that it stays there because then you just it's easy to clear, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But just those those little things I so I quite enjoyed it and it was a lot of fun to go through a lot, a lot of bugs that were fixed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that I've noticed too many bugs, so that's, I mean, it's good that they're fixing them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Updated the treasures of Utsal quest steps to be more clear for characters that were defeating the forge master in the molten vault.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After having already completed the treasures of Utsal quest, on another character in the same league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What the shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying that people defeat the forge master on their molten vault No, I better not be there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That better not be while they're leveling even if you have leveling gear No, get out of here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You go back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No way over level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, GGG just fix that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought you said you did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought you said you were so proud of it I thought that was the fight that you were like that you completed it when you were going through the

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought we had an episode just for you to ruin it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just cutting them down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, but didn't you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Am I wrong?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought you did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought you were because I thought it was a big deal where we were like, you did it during leveling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could have sworn it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if I did, it would have been with minion instability because that was the, like, my minions, I remember my minions constantly standing in lava.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like they would just spawn in the lava and come on guys come on so they would die right away so I had to use the minion instability version so if I did do it it would have been with minion stability.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember what it was but I do remember you completely because it was during the during the campaign you had done it and well I mean that was a big deal because I wouldn't do it so yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah and my minion stability character is

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[SPEAKER_00]: doing crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's doing really well, but it's loud.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the explosions are loud and it's makes the screen very flashy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so there's part of me where I'm like, man, maybe it should just be like a caster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Find something like I would have, I'd love some version of like a cold and scenario or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love and scenario, but they changed it and now it sucks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: skill, because it requires you to use another skill to fill it up, and then you can use it for max 10 seconds, and then you have to use another skill again, but I just love the incinerate skills.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a channeling skill where you're just like...

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't have to have the channeling tag.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, you know, if I was using Frostbolt, it was just, just hold it down the whole time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm looking through the spells and I'm like, man, like, it's not a lot of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not a lot of really, like, good ones that I like, like, firestorm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can only have one at a time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A flame blast has a 15 second cooldown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That sounds great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the one, like, we're, remember, like, pizza, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember those?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 15 second cooldown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that impurely too?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, it's one of the, it's on the bottom row.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the last spells you can unlock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 15 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, everybody just time out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's time to make time with your minions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 15 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You'll do damage every 15 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember when the war cries came out and like eight seconds wasn't eternity for those cool downs?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's double down, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Double it down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, anyway, there's just not a lot of spells that actually like, so one thing that I've been intending on doing myself this week is going through the, uh, I don't like a lot of the one skills except for siphoning wand, power siphoning, power siphoning, yeah, yeah, the one that calls does minimal damage, but obviously expected because it calls.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can put supports on that, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't need to do damage though if it's calling, so you can have like chain or whatever you're doing to make sure it's bouncing or pierce or something, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, uh, but I was, I've been intending all week to go on the wiki and just check out the different, um, the staffs skills.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know there was like a fire bolt and there or something like that, but I want to see what the other ones were and hopefully there's a nice cold one, because I love chilling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, hopefully there's a nice cold one in there, but yeah, I was thinking maybe something like that and back and forth, but I don't know something that's less like it's really bright, and it's really loud.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, I burped a little bit too bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's not many skills though that are not on bright to some degree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and I mean, it's, if it's consistent, then it's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But minion instability is BAM.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Four seconds of not right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: BAM.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Four seconds of not right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Explosion is bright.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's a flash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a flash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the goal is to have as many minions as possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're dying quickly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like it's all like part of the design.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, I got to find something that doesn't put me to sleep because all those flashes drain my energy

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, it's very efficient and I like it and it works perfect and on the tree like the minions stability bit like I feel like I have the proper amount of investment into it like it doesn't suck me dry or make me travel too far like getting the nodes I want and then when I'm finished I have the tree I'm like I am happy with the amount of investment I have into this this and this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a good visual setting you can do that tones it down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's already all those are already cranked down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What about B really cool and where sunglasses were you play?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, these glasses, not in me to brag, but they're automatically sunglasses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So shine light on your face so that they turn into sunglasses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will shine a flashlight on my face so that I don't have light in my eyes from the video game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, no, but no, it was, it was a lot of fun to play through and it was tough because like I enjoyed trying to figure out if I, like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: the pros and cons of my enjoyment level, purely my enjoyment level and preference of, do I like this rare only bit?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Should unique monsters be a little bit rare or more unique?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I was trying to enjoy it, I was trying to get used to it, obviously it takes a decent amount of mapping to do, which I don't have the time for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was slowly taking my time, kind of getting used to this new setup, and then they switched

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, okay, well, obviously, I know I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what got me hooked in the first place like boss boss boss boss and I love my boss bites old school listeners know that it's all about the one on one boss fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like I enjoy that and when you're in the one on one fights, a lot of them are pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it, you know, it gets rid of a little bit of the rare

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[SPEAKER_00]: rare crap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess you could say with some of the weird combinations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess part of me is scared that now that the rarers aren't the primary focus of mapping.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously they're not the ultimate goal, but they're what you're doing primarily while you're mapping.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Without them being the focus, I still hope they have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the same amount of attention to rares, because remember they've been trying to call crappy mod combinations with both enemy base modifiers and the modifiers that roll on them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've been trying to make them enjoyable without getting rid of too many, but they've already got rid of some that I've completely hate from path one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully removing them from the spotlight a bit doesn't change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the amount of attention they get on the back end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's just one fear that they would, but I know you mean you have sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, things get busy, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have new products coming out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have the new content.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have new mtx.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have new things to balance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have new skills to come out with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like with using path one as a history, it's really easy to all of a sudden.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have some pretty crappy combos after 10 years, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I really did, before I started my second up pitty party, I had a really, really good time in point one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I really hope that gets across because I had no intention of being negative for more than 30 seconds per subject.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But man, it was really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited to play again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, it's one of those things where it's like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it didn't come on the proper day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The one of the rare times where it fell behind the truck or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, he's all extra disappointed, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now he doesn't even want it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the second it comes, he will.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you just need that reset of expectations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's just what I need with Sekima.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I highly doubt they're going to put all this money into that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, Gigi's been amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, towers are done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, maybe they can do that for second one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I doubt it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I doubt it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, um, well, because I would want it for all three anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just second bunch of trials.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the other one that's not even out yet, that there's a bigger arena for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I doubt that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, I just need to wrap my head around the fact that maybe I just need to ascend twice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what my builds are gonna revolve around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are my two favorite nodes on this ascendancy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm getting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I hope that's not the case, but I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so hard because eventually trials gets to the point where you don't even think about it because you've got all the right, whatever those things are called relics so that you're at the 75% threshold and then it's easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I'm going to try it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to try it before we class for actually.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited to hear what you're going to play today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to play my dead eye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going with anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to try any my other ones just because I want to actually see what it's like and the problem is that build is just super.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's super fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's easy to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really hope they don't nerf it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd rather see them bring things up to its level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Make everything else fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably my plan though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really do want to play the blood, mage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Spark character, but I don't know if I'll do that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that might just make me angry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That one doesn't go point one, testing out all the new stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I have one more question for you before we go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, one thing that I actually really did like, and this was I totally forgot to mention this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The changes to mob sizes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's sorry, not mob sizes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Has been really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You noticed it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they especially because when I first started playing like I'm not capped on resist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not getting constantly overwhelmed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it actually was a really good numerical change for me where I was, which is low tier like I'm in waste owns one, two and three right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not feel like they were obviously because of Pewey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's some pretty crappy circumstances you can get into for the most part level designs still like completely getting in my way like I really can't run over this puddle that I didn't know existed because I was in the middle of combat, but it like takes up half my screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean like this little.

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[SPEAKER_00]: thing where I'm like, why can't I get there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why can't I get there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I move away and then later on I discover it was just this puddle that I was staring at the mini map to recognize.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Outside of that like it the the whole experience is just really good and smooth and I made a note just like really emphasizing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All the changes combined as it's like just a big puzzle where.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to mention that, but this patch came out because of a few reasons from their perspective, but they also for things that could come out, they wanted to get it out before, for point O, which is expected to have major and game changes or additions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What kind of things now that you've seen, what they've done here, what kind of things can you do you think that this could be leading towards or things that you're hoping this leads towards

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[SPEAKER_00]: for the next one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what else do you think is becoming is coming for and game now that you've read not played through a bad thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but I'm so bad at these.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I never know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even have a guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, uh...

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, my biggest thing is I'd like to see the Atlas passive become a little bit more fun, but I haven't even looked at it since the point one, so I don't even know it might maybe there has been some improvements to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know, I'm trying to remember what Jonathan told us the things are that he still likes that we haven't seen yet, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I feel like that's the direction of what will come out, because it was a lot of them were like lead mechanics that he liked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't have a freaking clue for in game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not really sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have a guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to play it again to see I don't know what the difference is in why I find Path of Excel 2's end game a bit more boring than I found Path of Excel ones

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it related around the Atlas, like the movement of the map, like trying to figure out where you were going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's part in there, but maybe some of these new changes fixed that I don't really know.

58:31.148 --> 58:32.608
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's just because I play on controller.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, you know, that wears me out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to play it to find out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have you played this and then thought of ideas for endgame or what you're hoping to see?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but I never knew what endgame was like I just knew this change to me is just turning it very much more into Path of Exile one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not a bad thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just um

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just is, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now I'm a lot more certain of what things are doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know the purpose of it all, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What the end game is in terms of, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing this, but for why?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the part of that I'm not familiar with, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: For me, when I'm thinking like what other endgame things could they do, I see them adding, like now that they're kind of more in a familiar territory, sure the terms are different, and it's a 3D map, instead of a 2D map, and maybe that changes things for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See them adding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and hopefully not, but not, it's just one of those things where for a long time now, path 1's endgame system was here's a part of the endgame you could focus on, or here's a part of the endgame you could focus on, I'm not talking league content, I'm talking different bosses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know what I mean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it made for the casual end gamer sense to just focus on one of them instead of focusing on all different variants of the end game progression system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe they're adding more end game focus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know, it would have to over time or different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and game bosses, but you had to focus on one something like that.

01:00:01.602 --> 01:00:08.349
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see because Peelie, one has the benefit of being 10 years old, or 50, however many years old, right?

01:00:08.369 --> 01:00:12.894
[SPEAKER_01]: There's all this, you would use to have Shaper, Shaper was the thing.

01:00:12.934 --> 01:00:16.057
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, you slowly introduce more bosses, and then more bosses.

01:00:16.097 --> 01:00:18.160
[SPEAKER_01]: So I would imagine Peelie two will go that route.

01:00:18.720 --> 01:00:23.144
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really like the main endgame boss they have right now, but I haven't played him this patch.

01:00:23.505 --> 01:00:24.946
[SPEAKER_01]: I just didn't like him last patch.

01:00:24.986 --> 01:00:31.152
[SPEAKER_01]: Last patch it was either find a way to one shot him or good luck because there were too many one shots that would kill you.

01:00:31.172 --> 01:00:32.814
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that's been fixed though.

01:00:32.914 --> 01:00:33.454
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't played it.

01:00:33.614 --> 01:00:34.095
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to.

01:00:34.675 --> 01:00:39.800
[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess you would have to, like if you're changing endgame stuff, that's going to spoil some story.

01:00:40.501 --> 01:00:42.022
[SPEAKER_00]: So I assume we're coming out of the

01:00:43.884 --> 01:00:46.506
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like you can't put blocks really cut.

01:00:46.747 --> 01:00:51.271
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to screw over your story by showing too much of the end first.

01:00:51.291 --> 01:00:54.994
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you know that I'm saying a lot of end game content there is going to be lore attached to that.

01:00:55.534 --> 01:00:58.377
[SPEAKER_00]: So my assumption would be you're also adding another act or two.

01:00:58.857 --> 01:01:03.259
[SPEAKER_00]: like finishing that up and then I would see that before they do anything on endgame now.

01:01:03.659 --> 01:01:07.160
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they said 4.0 is going to be a big endgame patch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did they?

01:01:08.340 --> 01:01:08.460
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.

01:01:08.601 --> 01:01:08.821
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:01:09.481 --> 01:01:10.561
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why they're adding this now.

01:01:11.482 --> 01:01:20.785
[SPEAKER_01]: Good Lord, then they, I mean, it's hard to say now because I want to say like, wow, that must mean that they've got a lot, but we don't know what this new four-month schedule looks like for them with

01:01:21.385 --> 01:01:22.746
[SPEAKER_01]: running two games every two months.

01:01:22.806 --> 01:01:26.448
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's possible point four doesn't even have any massive things.

01:01:26.508 --> 01:01:26.849
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:01:27.509 --> 01:01:31.572
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they said that they're coming out with so much that they were fine doing this now.

01:01:32.072 --> 01:01:32.833
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess this is a lot.

01:01:32.853 --> 01:01:34.434
[SPEAKER_01]: But then to still come out with a lot.

01:01:34.694 --> 01:01:38.877
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, at this point, we're still two months away from when they'd be doing it.

01:01:39.497 --> 01:01:43.120
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me when was this released.

01:01:43.180 --> 01:01:44.821
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're looking at December, right?

01:01:48.463 --> 01:01:48.703
[SPEAKER_01]: League.

01:01:48.963 --> 01:01:50.664
[SPEAKER_01]: There will definitely be in December for sure.

01:01:50.764 --> 01:01:51.784
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is August.

01:01:51.904 --> 01:01:57.126
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's the month 12 before point O. Hmm.

01:01:57.686 --> 01:01:59.287
[SPEAKER_01]: Makes a more sense for them financially as well.

01:01:59.327 --> 01:02:01.948
[SPEAKER_01]: So I that doesn't surprise me, but yeah, I don't know.

01:02:02.028 --> 01:02:04.789
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure what their end game is because I think you're right.

01:02:04.809 --> 01:02:06.409
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't go crazy with the end game.

01:02:06.429 --> 01:02:12.031
[SPEAKER_01]: If it would be a, to me, it would be a really bad way to introduce the lore that

01:02:14.012 --> 01:02:17.273
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, introduce story that doesn't match the axe before the axe out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, but then do you put all that effort into interludes to only have them there for four months?

01:02:23.916 --> 01:02:27.198
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, well, yes, because you have to, because what else would they do?

01:02:27.298 --> 01:02:32.160
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if they put out act four, you're kind of stuck where you have to have something that fills that gap.

01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:39.405
[SPEAKER_01]: So and also I don't think the interludes actually took them a lot because the interludes are just like I've played through though now three times.

01:02:39.865 --> 01:02:45.069
[SPEAKER_01]: They are really just they're just reusing stuff from the act one two and three.

01:02:45.609 --> 01:02:52.474
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just obviously changing around some storylines and there's different missions that you have, but a lot of the areas are just reused.

01:02:53.154 --> 01:02:57.838
[SPEAKER_01]: But it looks like at least reused designs or whatever from the first three acts.

01:02:58.598 --> 01:03:06.291
[SPEAKER_01]: That being said, I noticed a voice lines in the interludes where I was like, wow, they actually re, like they recorded stuff for these.

01:03:06.371 --> 01:03:07.993
[SPEAKER_01]: But maybe that's because they're going to use them somewhere else.

01:03:08.013 --> 01:03:09.376
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really know, but yeah.

01:03:09.869 --> 01:03:10.169
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.

01:03:10.810 --> 01:03:11.470
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you enjoy it.

01:03:11.630 --> 01:03:12.711
[SPEAKER_00]: I really enjoyed it as well.

01:03:13.091 --> 01:03:15.352
[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope you enjoy it and be cool to hear your feedback.

01:03:15.372 --> 01:03:16.433
[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess that'll be afterter.

01:03:16.513 --> 01:03:17.693
[SPEAKER_00]: Afterter, I'll try it hopefully.

01:03:17.953 --> 01:03:19.214
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I guess next week.

01:03:19.794 --> 01:03:21.495
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we're recording a little earlier next week.

01:03:21.515 --> 01:03:23.937
[SPEAKER_00]: So next week won't be past private league talk.

01:03:24.297 --> 01:03:25.257
[SPEAKER_00]: We wouldn't have anyway.

01:03:25.878 --> 01:03:26.058
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:03:26.078 --> 01:03:27.018
[SPEAKER_00]: We probably wouldn't have anyway.

01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:27.699
[SPEAKER_00]: Though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:03:28.679 --> 01:03:30.000
[SPEAKER_00]: Next week a little bit more past two.

01:03:30.020 --> 01:03:33.162
[SPEAKER_00]: We can talk about three point one then and then it'll be in two weeks.

01:03:33.982 --> 01:03:36.466
[SPEAKER_01]: path one or yeah, I probably could be almost over.

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