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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to Forever Excel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just an AK tags and I'm Tyler record of days also putting on my do not disturb on time We'll see if it works mine is not on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but I feel like yours might tell me this is I'm 330 you've been what nothing waiting for you to say episode 330 yeah episode three three zero

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Roger, we end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And thank you to Discord for not having the sound and video lined up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it off for you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's on for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it nods off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to join and rejoin?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So up to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to actually leave.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just tell him that I left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just wait here and see if he notices.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Invite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if you just restart your computer once a year, everything would be fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There would be no tech problems.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't have any achievements.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had no problems.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, it was a fault.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was good, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been bombarding my wife with, um, dog stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, um, like to get one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're just subtle hints.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's only been a few months like I'm really being a past But not we're just on different pages and so I like so I was I was playing the private league today and oh Yeah, it started right it did and I it was just not fun like a lot of the community and stuff But I'm playing the game and I'm like oh this sucks this sucks this side like I just I just wasn't enjoying It just feels like like you're excited to play and then all of a sudden you're playing like a really old game

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[SPEAKER_00]: and you forget how I get this kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's like, it wasn't any, I was out of whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, I played for an hour and like, OK, that's enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's good for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I went on the SPCA website.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just checking out all these different dogs and sent my life wife like a billion pictures and all this kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she's probably going to message a bunch just being kind and polite, but she's not ready for a dog yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's only been what is it January?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's been four months since we put our dog down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For me, I was ready two seconds after that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, kind of, but she's not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now she has to like the six month mark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's your cut off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's like all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You either throw your opinion in, or it's all me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it, I'm going to cover them with what I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You betcha, you betcha, so, uh, but now it's been good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My son had, uh, his birthday couple weeks ago, and or a week, it should go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just don't make them like they used to just like half of his toy like the two toys that we got them both didn't work well and properly so he's returned to his fitness watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's not fancy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was on like 30 bucks and his remote control car.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've gone back to Walmart like multiple times being like, okay, this car doesn't drive straight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This car.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The wheels don't even spin at the same rate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like literally going in times or just stupid stuff just being crazy cheap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, we got one product and the instructions were only in French, we're like, you've got to be kidding me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we didn't even realize, but the box was actually all in French, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's never going to be Canada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was, but then we go back and all of that product, like all six of that same vehicles all French.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're like, well, I feel like that wasn't meant for our side of Canada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but then so at this so then I Google the thing and I'm like, hey, like we're just looking for the instruction They're like, oh, that's a Walmart exclusive So instructions aren't available online.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're like, oh

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, you go through like that, like, hey, like we, we nail, yeah, I'm always nervous, like we're not going to like, I really want birthdays to be special in our family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really like celebrating and I want people to just feel like a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the material aspect isn't important, but at the same time when you're a kid, that's like all you care about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you kind of want to nail that even though you're really not trying to

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[SPEAKER_00]: to promote the materialism of a doll and you just feel bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, the moment was exciting, which is, I guess, what matters, but then in retrospect, it's like, oh, man, like, this didn't work out, and this didn't work out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we tried fixing all that, and it was all good, and it's been a good week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've had a really good time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I finished my, I guess this is really bad timing because Brandon Sanderson fans are very excited.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brandon Sanderson's a popular author.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's been very, he's very popular.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He, he writes a billion books and is a big following.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's been very picky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just like Fallot and Bethesda was with Fallot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They kept getting like offers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, hey, we want to make a show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We want to make movies, and they were very picky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brendan Sanderson's also been very picky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he just announced, or they announced, whoever announced that he's, I don't know, the actual one, whether it's movies or shows or whatever it is, he's finally got a contract down to some of his stories on screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And some of his stories are like, you know, 20 books long kind of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was going to say I think quite long, hopefully they do like series, then instead of on movie, because it sucks when they have to condense it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so Ian and I were reading Warbreaker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a Brandon Sanderson one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so anyway, we're going through and we're trying to find like he's trying to get into sci-fi and that's really all I read and I'm like, I'm just, you know, looking around trying to see which authors are good, which ones aren't, which ones suit me and

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's a favorite for some people that listen here, but Mr. Born to me was a series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just drove me nuts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How it was written, how the characters were and displayed, just the convenient things he does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It seemed like a very rushed story with shallow characters and plot holes and all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's just my opinion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not criticizing the guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just that the story really didn't resonate with me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we read all three for the

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a huge author.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a very popular author like, I'm sure it's just me being picky, but like it, those stories they just seemed crazy rushed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to find a standalone book that he's written where it's not like it's just one story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And taking it around like other publications that he's made, like hopefully there hasn't been a lot of publications, so he got like take his time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't trying to finish it quick to try and start another one that he was under pressure for or whatever it would be, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what his pressure

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just seems to come up with books like crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, I'm trying to find a solo book where the story is just a complete.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all done in one book and And so we read Warbreaker this month and it was really disappointing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't see them this one, but I want to go halfway through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm kind of done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just doing the authors out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, not a criticism to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with such dense characters and storytelling like we just finished gardens of the moon with Steven Erickson, and that's just a completely different style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's much more my style of storytelling still.

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[SPEAKER_00]: thought when I'm looking for but like a much much closer to what I like than something like like Ms. Barnes or Warbreaker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm looking forward to the stories because like I like the worlds that he creates he's extremely creative but I don't like

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[SPEAKER_00]: The story he uses to take us through the world, I guess you could say I don't like the character he brings us through in the past that they take, like I just I don't like the journey that he brings us through to his world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm really curious what his shows are going to be like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, when they be the same as that, I imagine they would follow the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's always different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the difference of like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if sounds weird, but like playing the follow games versus watching the follow show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's it's obviously it's going to be a very different experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm looking forward to the world and seeing what he approves other people of doing with his worlds and I'm excited for the shows despite the fact that I didn't like how he took us through his stories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this was it just an announcement that they're going to make a show or the show's coming at a certain date?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like was there a

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just that there's been a purchase and an agreement of the ability to do the shows, because that's been something as fans have been and him have been clamoring for for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking forward to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What did you start?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably part of me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you start in the private league?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm pre-per, but I might switch that to zombies or skeletons or something, but yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was sort of like 130 today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this morning, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I signed on a couple of times today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was actually having major glitchy issues with the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My card was all my drivers were updated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My game was updated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything was

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[SPEAKER_00]: I spent like half an hour fighting the game and it's hardcore too, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going through and it's like all of a sudden my computer volume is changing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Without me hitting any buttons is like there's no chord hidden in computer, but like a keyboard, but it was just happening randomly all on its own.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was only when I was in Path of Exile.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't any other time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it wouldn't let me, it was really glitching out when I was trying to go to full screen windowed as opposed to just full screen or windowed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just fighting it and fighting it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, turn the computer off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did some chores?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Came back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is doing it again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I turned a computer off, did some more chores, came back, got about an hour in, and so playing it through and join it, and if leveling feels bad, but it feels good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so much better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so much better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so finely tuned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was nice leveling my minions, and as I level as I invest into the two clusters that are close by for minion survivability, all of a sudden my minions start to stay alive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when they couple that with whatever completely other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: skill that you're using to do damage like SRS in this case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still strong enough to do it, or I add zombies and skeletons, and have that combination.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And despite the fact that I have no damage investment yet, I'm comfortable with my pace, go through the game, and clearing, and dealing with bosses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that is a nice balance, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: tedious and boring, like the actual gameplay to me isn't fun and path one, but it was refreshing, like, and then I had Holy Flame Totem drop and I'm like, oh yeah, I'm so used to just for ignoring everything except for the build I always do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I throw that on and I'm like, ah, look at that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I start thinking about Holy Flame Totem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the skills are nice and, and some inventasms back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a great one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And poison automatically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can have infinite amount of poisons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: within that's two-second duration and there's just my brain, despite the fact that the fact that to me the gameplay is kind of sucks and like how enemies work and the amount of off-screen damage I was already taking and some of the ridiculous things that were thrown at me and act one like I'm used to it or whatever but um

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I just like, I'm reminded like a whole man like so I'm already so thankful for path to you know, and then already and I'm just an act one, but it was it was really nice to have really interesting skills with a lot of options and I did to me the skills and path to you they're boring and I don't feel like I have a lot of options.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't find them at boring maybe as much as you do, but there's definitely not many options.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that you'll be exciting when they have as many more, more compute-weewinders.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so anyway, that was how my week went and how starting the podcast went for me today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How was your week?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it was, uh, I'm hitting burnout.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm hitting burnout, and I had a very rough time last night, but it was, there were some good parts of the week, like, it's funny how his little things can make things a lot better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was, uh, having a tough day this one day, and I got a call from my oldest, and it was so funny, because it was just out of the blue, and he's like, what, uh, when I was a, when I was a little, why did I stab somebody with a pencil?

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[SPEAKER_01]: because he asked you your eraser.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, oh, okay, I couldn't remember what the reason was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, what was the other thing that happened?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, you took the hood off of your big jacket and you put your fist inside of it and you punched a kid in the face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, what was the reason for that again?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, because he stomped out your pretend fire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, okay, I couldn't remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was talking to somebody at work trying to explain it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was all it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, all right, love you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a great day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I did actually like, pick the up quick a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's hilarious for anyone listening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the kindest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's the super-herso kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, don't stomp out his imaginary fire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I was fun this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My 16-year-old got accepted into a cybersecurity program.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which is really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I keep applied for it and interviewed for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we went to his went to an orientation for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm really excited for him for that because it actually runs through the rest of his whole two more years of high school and into post-secondary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like it's a really cool opportunity for him to get involved in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was really exciting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the rest of my week honestly was work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was from this time I wake up to the time I go to sleep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had two more speaking engagements and then the first one, I'm setting my stuff up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know what it did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just turned to the left to move something and my back just like it just...

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[SPEAKER_01]: rumpled me, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thankfully, I haven't quite started yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm on my knees trying to like breathe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was um, yeah, we have a huge thing happening this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm working pretty much all day Sunday to just make sure it goes through smoothly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is the final, the final hurdle for getting everything moved over to this new system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So as long as that goes smoothly Sunday, and I feel like I can at least

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chill a little bit going into next week, so I'm very much looking forward to February 2nd assuming that everything goes well because if it does not go well

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is it for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's been a good ride.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Check it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's the week's been the week's been fine, but I didn't really get to do much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We watched, um, I don't know if I told you the beast in me with Clared Ains.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really good TV show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just a limited series style show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then if I get a chance, if I'm just trying to like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: work and have something on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have gotten so big into the grand tour and with like Clarkson and Hammond and May.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, I love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so much fun to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's pretty much been my week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not been, I haven't played anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I totally forgot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have them excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The privately started today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's going to be fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll hopefully get to play that next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, no, the week was it was work went out for dinner, which was nice last night, but I'm I'm ready to get proper sleep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully coming next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm tired, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it is good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's feeling good to finally see something you've worked on for such a long time, start to take, take form and actually work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When we got this week, we didn't already have was at level 84.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What the, it just started.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, calm down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was that a cool option?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Super happy for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's four people above level 40, of course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's 84.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was it just, oh, I feel like I remember hearing people talking to because nobody has the triple triple skull Uber legend status here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's just haven't even created it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not even made yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll have to make a triple skull E-mote or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know the call.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, we're not gonna need to because B We're gonna win and Whatever it would be ED now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna win, but it

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, people are wanting to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The information is in our discord.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is a hardcore soul cell phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Keeper's league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's running alongside of Path of Exile stealing our thunder, but you can come play with us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be fun time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do we got this week?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing, down the competition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Notes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Frisha, of course, had its announcement for what the different classes are going to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there was a small, they'd vote for path 2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't it, isn't not the same ones that they had last time?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't actually know idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also care noteth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this patch this three-poor that's for PathFix at one, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, these are the specific stuff of three-shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything needs no, don't need that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's cool that they're running it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's good for them because it keeps people engaged.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yep, I can't really complain like I think that's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're still doing updates, I see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what was our biggest criticism to them as they went through their entire year of not knowing how to told manage both games, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was that they weren't even doing the little things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they were just non-existent and

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, really great stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll have to see next year or next, uh, for 328, if they wait to announce their privately for after we've announced our privately and if it is also going to start on the same day as our privately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to start at the same day as there's every time I'm purpose because we're going to wait for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I think our private leagues are more consistent than... And there's, I think, as 20 days, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's as a longer, I think, fresh as 20 days long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just dragging so much money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have a rich one here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they'll never be able to afford 20 days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's this for 10 days, are just for 11, so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no big deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can't even do that, can you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, that's pretty funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what are you going to start as you were mentioning it before we talked about it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And after that, I don't remember what it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember what it was to remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a skill testing question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, how to find it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me just go in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do we ninja?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-oh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The throng button.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I went puy ninja.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I went to do remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it was a uh oh yeah because he got it slammy type something What do we look like?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hardcore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hardcore soul is so fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a berserker because that's the top 16% with earth shatter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So berserker with earth shatter in the library with

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am literally going to look at what that top one is and try to match it because Earthshatter, over- exertion, melee, physical, brutality, and pulverized.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what it was that has.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'll just do better than wasa.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me just look at what wasa has.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No uniques.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Two five links and everything else is four links.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What that started like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: We need a, I don't know, it needs something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I was getting you, but happy for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, but definitely, it wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're giving you hard time, crush it, kill it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Get 100, make us go, yay, and then, uh, we ever got 100 in a hard court?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was one league where there was a bunch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it was probably one of the, really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it a hard court one, too?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, yeah, we always do hardcore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we did one time we didn't, but, uh, wouldn't be my fault.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You probably picked it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, what is your plan?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you playing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm gonna play whatever the person at the top, please.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm gonna play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I've my tanky reprobilled that I like to do, but all of a sudden as I was playing there, I'm like, I could just keep it as zombies, like, who cares?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, you know, maybe I do skeletons instead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine and whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll get things with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How will you make that decision?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just feeling like it was level the skills on the side, and then just put them in wherever the main skill is, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, uh, I, um, I never like my minion builds to be as I'm a castor, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yes, RS is just an unfun option for me, so, uh, I used to love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I used to absolutely love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was my favorite minion skill for a long time, but no longer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it just depends on what I'm in the mood for, because I know I'm gonna die, so I may as well have fun while I'm doing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What, uh, what level are we yet now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am Rank 17.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm level 6, I'm level 16.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Screenshot that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wads?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's 327 first try.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have had one level 100 in all of them, and it was during crucible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was critical.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what you were doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why you asked me what level I was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you could go do that while you were looking around?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I was giving you a reason to talk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yes, we had one level 100.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Quite a few level 99s in different ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was a super-support, and even do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's so weak.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our first one was during harvest was the harvest league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that was the alter song I ever did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that, I don't think that was hardcore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just normal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, that was a crappy league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yes, it was and that that's that that league really like through GGG around that was the one where Chris was like, good, just going to break the game right with all the rewards and what you could do all the crafting that they had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, but they knew that, but it was a temporary league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So who cares, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're like, okay, yeah, we want to bring it back in the game, but we obviously don't want to break the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they brought it back almost the exact same way that they launched it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they had to take it back out of the game and reconsider it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it still came back completely crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they had to the amount of modifications it went through was nuts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was that was quite the journey, the harvest journey waiting for harvest to become what it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy too, because it went

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[SPEAKER_01]: we must have missed one in between there if they were launching every three months and they'll say weren't because we did that one in June and then the next one was in November.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe maybe that was, but yeah, harvest to high.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was not a very one either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Heist was where they came out with their apology for putting it onto to over quality and then emphasize that they were going to prioritize quality over quantity from that point for, but they actually came out with like a

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember that too, and now it's actually turned into quite the thing, like it'd be pretty cool, like I'm not a fan of the mechanics, the league mechanics that take you away from the core experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the syndicate stuff, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you're taking going into other areas that you're trying to be in for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, heist is one where you could live there for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't takes you to a non-mapping experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there are other own experiences that the wrong maps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the same concepts as the rest of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why does that bother you even though that you're still kind of doing the same thing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: because I want to feel like I'm progressing in what I'm supposed to be doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess you can say it's like this progression type idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, it's almost like not earning experience points for my character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like in a way, it's like a progression down and well, right, but if

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to play Delf, but if I want to do the Atlas, and I feel like I'm doing all this content, and I'm not earning experience points for my Atlas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Towards that, sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I just feel like, I don't know, it's like being, it's not forced, of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, they have things gated behind me because that's how the mechanics work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's not a person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how you have to make that kind of content.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that's why it bugs me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never bothered trying to think about why it just like bugs me or it doesn't and life goes on, but like it's a video game so it cares.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think now that you ask that's the reason, like I just feel like this is what I'm supposed to be doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is actually what's exciting me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But all these cool things have nothing to do with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think so that they've done a pretty good job of making them where they're not necessary because you don't have to do those things, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it wasn't like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, now on my brains like completely removing that one year absence that they had from path one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They revamped where you got all these items and they changed it for like, if you want breech items, you got to do breech.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was kind of like, what's the tower defense one that drives me nuts?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's like called like, remember it was like basically if you wanted whatever mechanics drops, you had to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, because that just gave you the best return, you would do this map and, you out of all the chests, you'd just, for your time, you'd get more of any other, like, let's say breach stones or whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You'd get more from that from breach than you would actually, from doing, from blight than you would from doing breaches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, there was a, like, sad

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea what the numbers let's say six leagues ago where they just completely like no We're redoing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want breed stones, the best chance to get them is from Breach, you know, and use semi-alachum, and that's a thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I don't know for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I completely agree with it I and I really like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So since they've done that, I think the game in terms of what you get and where is very balanced.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like it a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are there the thing that's been frustrating for me with path too, because that is the direction of the company is, it still feels like they just, they have to hang on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They can't let go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean, too, the idea of leaving maps?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, certain mechanics that the like, like already that like the Val experience was wasn't an experience that took you away from the mapping experience originally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a side area, but of your map.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when you were finished the Val side area, you would go back into your map.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was within the same instance, I guess you could say, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they took that and they made it something where it's a completely external experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, sure, technically you go back to your map, but goodness, you're gone from your map for so long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, with all the things that you're doing with the whole Val side areas and the map making and trying to get to it's theory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious if it's going to stay like this, I mean, you know, we were talking about harvest going from something completely different to how it was launched and knowing that it was going to come back as something completely different, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we don't even garden.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no wires.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's none of those like pedestals that we use anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But with past two, they're not really doing that, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're trying to put it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like they're trying to put it out as they're intending it to be in the game long term.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be kind of half too

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they, with regards to the temple, I feel like I'm a little bit jaded towards this last purely just because they made the changes that frustrated me and hooped me and then I just didn't get back into it, which is too bad because I think the changes they've made now are really good to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that the temple is actually pretty decent in the sense that you don't have to go do it, you can go do it later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think path to whatever be done at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you probably wouldn't have to at all unless you wanted some of the specific drops or I know people do these crazy mastermind versions of these temples for loot, which is fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's to everybody's progative however they play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, they've done a decent job of if you want to go into it, you can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will have to say, like, currently the Atlas and POE2 does not give me the same dopamine hit that POE1 does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if I have to go do the temple, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the Atlas progression in puey to rate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think my biggest problem with the the path of Excel to progression in the Atlas is I it's too many clicks and I know that sounds dumb, but I just don't want to Roll the way stone then click into the Atlas then find the spot then put it in and then run it like that's just it's so much more work than what it used to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's too bad because I think the idea they've come up with, like the concept is cool, I just have no clue how you make it smoother.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know they've tried too quite a bit with how they've added the tablets into its already into the device.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just still feels tedious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It, I think it'll stay tedious because the base design is all based on the 3D proximity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have, you have to scroll.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that, that that long term, like short term really cool idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Short term looks awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love the screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We business that they're trying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but at the end of the day, that's scrolling and scrolling and scrolling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you, like you're constantly expanding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's tedious even if you're only expanding in one direction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But a mat like it, you have this whole circle, this infinite globe of delved that you're constantly scrolling through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not like there's a menu that helps you shortcut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, there's bookmarks, you still have to get there and then it's a lot of screen hopping.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because you can't pick your layout that you want, the layout of the map is now predetermined based on whatever it's rolled there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a situation where you're always going to have to have those clicks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what scrolling does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you compare path one, you have everything in one screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even though yes, you have to, as a controller player, hold an analog stick to travel, you know, you're, you're ready to kill us to travel to whatever location.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can see it all there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: right and you can manipulate it in that way whereas there and there's no like moving animation that goes with it and if you accidentally go in the wrong direction you you're not needing to scroll all the way back

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, I mean, like, it's, it's literally one of you talking about the Alice progression.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're talking about the Atlas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then the thing that I actually like about path one as well is that the game now you switch to the Atlas pass of tree and it's just a copy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like it's the exact same experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Except here's your XP for it and here's a progression for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like two sides of the same map almost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's, it just, it pairs well, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's odd to me that they haven't, that they didn't take, it doesn't seem like they really took stock of the fact that people really utilized in like the, the favority and a map.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ability to do in path one, because the like that's gone in path two, and in the current state of what path VxL2 is, that can't ever be a thing because you can't pick your favorite layout.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Going through the zones and I know that they'll come out with more layouts, but there are certain parts of the Atlas where I'm like I don't want to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really don't want to do valve temples over and over or whatever that architecture version of a map is it's just not the one I want to do, but then

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to work your way through and find some more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I hope they find some way to let me do layouts that I prefer because that is, I mean, yeah, I mean, path of X, I'll one is okay, I got the layout.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to do dunes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to do race course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to do whatever and I want to increase my chance to be able to do that, let's such a fun feature within path of X, I'll one that just doesn't exist into.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the nice thing is that's not choosing the system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You earn that ability.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a well-earned stock of your character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have invested time into my account, this league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is what I like for the content that I like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think GGG has enough control over their

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[SPEAKER_00]: random nature to be in control of which maps we do, to me they're still way too convoluted about the way more maps annoy me than I enjoy in path to and uh my question path one two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would bet there's more maps that you don't like than you do like in path one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you have very few maps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are very few maps I hate in path one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just I don't prefer them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's some that I just really like like race course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really like finding enough channel and waterways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really like the great right how wall hugging.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's not a lot of crap in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The ones that I can't do are the tree ones because in path one for some reason they don't have the trees that disappear in front of the camera So anything that has these colossal things that are constantly like hey, look at me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at me in between me and my character I can't do those ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So those are the ones that I hate and then the vowel city one I think is stupid But all the other ones I just prefer not to do sure they just don't suit the right wall hugging situation

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's very few where outside of what's in between me and my character, I know like the dungeon ones, there's a lot of crap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of those like barrels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me once that you can't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in path 2,

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[SPEAKER_00]: those knockables that you can actually destroy or like click on, you can roll past them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It shouldn't need to, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They shouldn't be in the way of my experience, but they are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The path to has a lot more where I'm like, I did not know that that would make me stuck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The visual indication is a lot less, um, it's not as helpful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess you could say like I have to stare at the mini map for it, but there's a lot of that in path to I think the thing that would really help path to is and it might be counterintuitive to all the effort they've actually put into this never-ending scrollable Atlas, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: you have a screen like almost like a shortcut screen or a map you can lift up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I just think of like a two dimensional screen you can lift up and it's like okay yep here that's where I want to go and it's like a shortcut to jumping there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean but a visual one not just a list of bookmarks that you can't really see and then it's just like snaps you to it kind of thing and then you have to interact to see where you are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you should, I think you could almost help.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could make it where the way stone itself could be clicked on, and that takes you right into the Atlas, and then let me just, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I clicked the way it's going from the menu, it takes me into it, and then I still have to go to my math device to get into the way, way point, but at least then I'm not doing this extra, I don't know, I just find it gets too many too many clicks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I find with the maps and Path of Excel too, it's not, there's any zones, I really hate, there's a lot I don't like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what their thought is for me to efficiently clear it, like I can run through this zone that's quite large, but the amount of stuff I'm missing, and then I know really know, it's just odd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In Path of Exile 1 for the most part, you can follow an edge or have some semblance of a direction to make sure you can clear his own.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Path of Excel 1 or Path of Excel 2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely lacking that where I can finish a zone or think I'm finishing a zone and Then the boss actually was like just to the left where I first started and I had no idea that there was a new an area that I could have gone that way Yeah, and yes, you can have checkpoints, but the I just shrink the zones by a massive amount and let those zones be an Inclose space that makes sense for how you clear it

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[SPEAKER_00]: I find that they need a lot of work on the checkpoint system still.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'll go through and I'll have done a ton of a map and there's not a, there hasn't been a checkpoint in site or the checkpoints are in the weirdest locations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still think that there needs to be a little bit more work done for checkpoints.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The gameplay though, in Pui 2, to me, is so much more fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I find the gameplay of my character, while I may prefer some skills and some of the supports and stuff in Pui 1, the gameplay itself to me is much more satisfying in Pui 2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 100% agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still to me superior to Path of Excel 1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I completely agree with you, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say one thing on the Atlas that I forgot about, and then remembered, and that's why I was so I don't know, just like I was just right there all these silences you're taking, because my brain keeps turning off In terms of the design of the Atlas, I even if it's not your thing think about what the long-term experience is for a standard player

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[SPEAKER_00]: In Path 2, you have one screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or sorry, in Path 1, you have one screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Imagine what the Atlas is like if you play standard long term in Path 2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, oh, I see what you're saying, just how big it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now, right, and how much scrolling you're going to need to do and how, like imagine if like there's a glitch or an update and your bookmarks get erased.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or something like it's just like one of those things where it's like, that's the design.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, it definitely, I don't think it was made with standard mind, maybe they never make their game for standard, but I am looking for, and I don't know what it is, an easier way to interact with the map.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, well, I think we can both agree that standards garbage, so they don't worry about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's funny though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe just being able to zoom out a lot farther.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like they do this a lot of the scrolling and still let you interact with the map.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I wonder if they do that because of what it could cause to the system, the amount of information that's happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not saying that that's a valid reason not to do it because I do agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you can zoom out nearly far enough in the, in the, in the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somehow I just need less clicks, I need to be able to get into it and feel like I can pop into a map a little bit faster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, yeah, I mean, I'm excited for them to come out with new types of zones, but it is too bad that we've lost the ability to favorite a design and be able to play that, you know, design specifically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like imagine a tablet that converted the surrounding, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: whatever race course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Imagine if they eventually could come up with a tablet that was more map focused, where it guarantees the next 10 or whatever certain maps to be the type you want, because

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we're not, we're not actually playing the game for the zone that we're going into.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're playing the game to kill stuff and collect stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the zone itself, it's just, is it conducive to how I wanna play?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all I care about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't actually care, and it sucks because they put incredible work to some of these zones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not really looking at it too much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just wanna go kill stuff and pick up loot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, better not be in my way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those amazing zones better not get in my way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They may come look pretty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Love the music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me enjoy it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, that I'm in the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm there because I want to kill stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to get good gear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't need that broken wheel barrel right in the middle of the combat experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to put a broken wheel barrel in the middle of the combat experience, make it explodable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like make it something that I'm going to destroy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not that it blocks me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But just that if there's an attack that happens around it, it's just, it's just there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks cool, but it's never impeding my progression.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we are okay with the unrealisticness of, yes, I'm just casually walking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, yes, that will be a completely explode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It should not be because I am a god killer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Please, let me have some of those abilities.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be terrified of me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I had a really good week in path to this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Could you play?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm enjoying it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I, it's funny because my zombie build that I, like, I really like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to scale really well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm enjoying the defenses of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's, it's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's efficient.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and I'm, it's just, I don't know what it is, but I find it boring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know why.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I get my power charges, I cast zombie three times and I wait and I cat my power charges and that like it's it's it's funny because I designed the build to be this way I always try and do like a one maybe two button build right now that you can have your skills wherever you want them in path to which is immediately something I love starting to play path one again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to skill that I'm interacting with, that's right trigger, and then every now and then I hit X, so whether that's a curse or whether that's frostbom, and you know, trying to trigger everything else, and so going through and doing all this stuff, but I got the slowmo which Justin and I couldn't stop it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I started a Chrome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have this one here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How you doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I send it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have my...

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny, but that skill, that, uh, Chrono-Mancy skill that the slow is like just an aura that slows enemies around by 20%.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it visual now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you see it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no indication on the enemy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't even know what its tags are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: so you don't even know if like increasing your presence or or a magnitude like there's literally it's literally not a skill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You ascend and it doesn't exist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But is it sure it does?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What does it say?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is the what's the wording for it to remember?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does it just like can you use a round you are something?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll bring up the wiki and hopefully it's the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, apex of the moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that does, that is not a direct quote.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Enemies in your presence are slowed by 20%.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Enemies in your presence, but presence is a taggle thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because you can increase presence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, that you can't, you can increase presence size.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember that, but right, but is it an aura?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, why do soon know, but I don't know why wouldn't it be because it doesn't say the word or What else is in your presence you're in a meeting not an aura you're emitting a

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fair amount of something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Slow slowing fair amounts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I stink that bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's like, it is too bad that they come in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Visual and that there's no debuff on the enemy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I feel like that seems like a very easy solution to it's been there for a year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're already getting into that thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it wasn't even worth it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First came out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually, as soon as I get into Act 2, and I unlock the Harold skills, first thing I'm going to do is check out Harold of Agony to see if it still doesn't say the actual damage that it does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In what game, in Puy 1?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Path 1 now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's only a partial conversion from physical to chaos damage to the Harold of Agony, and it's been out for the Gillian years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody plays it, though, so I bother.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, there's stupid skills to the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so anyway, I started Cronomancer and with the assumption that the community has that this is an aura.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've gone through and I've made a tree and I'm going to do temporal chains on blast for me, and then I'm going to sell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm going to move it all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's going to be great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've done the math and hopefully if the math is correct, I'll still be slowing bosses by 50%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It should say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's not going to save you to be right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, just by being around them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'll be self-casting despair, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, hey, I went through and I did like all the slow stuff and all the curse things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, okay, I'm going to be self-casting a tiny bit, but for the most part it's going to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: despair or sorry I'm well get there okay I'm going to be doing temporal chains with blasphemy and that isn't or but it's also a curse where I went through and did all my magnitude investments and I'm like okay what's close and I'm like uh not a fan of like the minion nodes that are close within staying like at a round level 90 by the time I'm finished planning my tree I'm like

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I could get more with a different kind of investment and so fire actually had some pretty decent investment, whether it was elemental spell or fire damage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That had some pretty good stuff, but the fire skills themselves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, sounds weird, but there's not a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's fireball, there's firestorm, there's incinerate, but I've already said, and I'll like incinerate some dumb because you have to use another skill with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like fireball, but it's like, when I was starting path one today, I was amazed at my cast speed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, this is great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could take fireball to the end with this cast speed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I have to invest like, so different clusters of cast speed in path one, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially if you use like the staff,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you use those innate skills.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, oh my goodness, this must be the heavier staff in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like once every eight seconds, it's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And obviously that's an exaggeration.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But playing path one, just with your innate character, because I'm used to path to, oh, my movement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel like my cast speed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, it fell good right away in path to, even though that's all I play, I still feel sluggish, so often.

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[SPEAKER_00]: casting this slow and sort of just wasn't a lot of fire skills.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually consider just because it was I actually considered what's the one that we used to make a pizza totems with what's it called?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Blame the last.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, flame blast is a second cool down in path to

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a 10 second cooldown in Path 2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But really, the ChronoMats are actually has some cooldown stuff, so that would be a nice little couple with it, and because I'm slowing people down, so much I'm like, okay, maybe that'll work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like it does huge damage, the more multiplier to its huge, like it might be worth it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's also, I don't have, like if I'm, but let's pretend I'm fighting German or obviously I don't have Flame Blast in Act 2, but let's say I'm fighting a version of Jamirakwey later on in a map, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have 10 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no really.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's not 10 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I, it maybe it takes like two and a half seconds, but like think about like that wind up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How many times you have to quickly do something instead of like, okay, you're vulnerable now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, I've been really tempted to play with it, but I didn't like anything that was going to take me there, fire related, whether it was Ember Fuchsilage or there's a variety of play styles, but I just, they, none of them interest me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But chaos skills, there's a lot of chaos that's close to all the curse stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of other besides us in training and contagion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, I mean, there's also, I've always been a fan of curse is doing damage to, and that's only chaos damage with the exception of burning inscription, which I like, I looked at, but it, it's really difficult to scale burning inscription in that game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's not enough variety or tags for it yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so there's essence strain and contagion, and then there is decaying hacks, which is on curses, and then there's the the totem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, yeah, Dar, G for G or something like that, where it's actually cool, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the game doesn't do a good job like it the game tells you like you can't have more than one of the same thing on an enemy and so when the game talks about like a chaos dejan i assumed always that chaos dejan was all the same and it was only going to use the strongest one but apparently a chaos dejan from contagion and us and string are different to it's not technically one tag like burning would be they're just

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chaos Dejense from two different skills.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're actually taking both of those damage and then so if I add to King Hex onto that So now if I add the totem it does a projectile per Dicking or it's per Chaos Dejense on the enemy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it's like it'll cast like three of them a second and cast about three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm like, okay, but man, like, I've never played Essence Drain contagion because it didn't suit my abilities with path one, but now that I can rearrange where the buttons are,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Justin, that clear is so nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So fun, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Isn't it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You get into those rooms like an act, too, and you have all those like statues, and you know what's like some of those rooms where it's like statues everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing that sucks is you hit your X to drop contagion in front of you, and then you hit trigger, and your guy throws the essence during behind you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, what the?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it doesn't, oh, it tries me nuts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I actually, I don't run into that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I like how I have, I love that Path of Excel 2 has this like your ability to like hone in how your range style works like it's worth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the one thing is, especially in Act 2 is they have all these absurdly agile enemies that are like, oh yeah, you thought that guy was in front, well check this out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All of a sudden, six other enemies are in front of the one you originally cast on a fine southern game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a complaint, but it does frustrate the contagion experience, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it is a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But unfortunately, I'm at Jamir Quay right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's just never.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you feel the slow of the sorceress?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, not at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I remember Soja way way way way way way back in the day, doing some testing for me, just like actually leveled it, actually ascended and then went into the bone pits or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, wasn't it probably actually had a small presence?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forget how it worked, but anyway, you could like tell the difference between an enemy, he'd run away from an enemy, watch them on the edge of the screen, and then it would boot, and then slightly slow down, you can't tell, though, like it doesn't really change the experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's 20%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm starting to invest into or a magnitudes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully that works for me, but it's all good and so that's the nice thing that I like about having temporal chains with blasphemy as well because now that they're both or as when I invest in an or a magnitude, it's working for both of them, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's improving the slow for both,

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so anyway, so I, for the first time, I'm doing ED contagion and I'm really enjoying it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's there and there's way more damage available to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that ED hits and as a dot is crazy and how the chaos damage works on the pass of tree so far, it's just

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[SPEAKER_00]: basically chaos damage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not really there's not like a flat dot investment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just very little of it as based on the hit, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's some nodes I couldn't take because they were dependent on the hit, but it's just like it's such a double whammy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it really is just for single target really strong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then because it's just constant duration stuff,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Indigen, the idea of temporal change, making that last even longer is really nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it really helps me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like having a minion skill because you just cast at that one time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then it just lasts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the gen skills are the funnest to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like watching the anime die or it's the best.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because it's really the only way to get poison the way you like it if you like didn't path one because I can have, I mean, I'm still limited by the amount of skills that there are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because chaos, de-gen isn't like a specific tag that all you can only have one, if it's coming from a different skill you're having a few, so I'm having these few different chaos de-gen's, and it's like having multiple poisons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which then too, would you say multiple poisons?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dark FG into that mix, it becomes a lot of fun.

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[UNKNOWN]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I'm not there yet, of course, I'm still at Jamirakway, like I said, but I have the idea of, okay, well, maybe I'll have two skeletons dying, I'll have cast on minion death again, but then because, and then I'll have Essan strain and contagion linked to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but they share the same supports, so it may as well have them together and then are you really only need like the one cast of essence drain on somebody with contagion because of the dot, obviously you'll get way more damage if you can constantly cast it, but the other two skills are really mana heavy and that's the curse which is despair, but then also the totem for dark

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I haven't cast that and I really don't want my curse going often crazy often.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could, but then now I'm going to have three buttons because, or, I don't know, it's going to be the third button to find a way for us to work with just right trigger and X part of me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes that third button can only be needed on the boss anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can clear the map and zone with just the assistant training contagion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you're dump in the effigy when you're on a boss.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember using that set up It was a lot of fun in a group especially as you got in higher maps because the dark effigy was just like It's going crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's tough because there's so many supports that I want on despair

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there is one or two, there are one or two supports that add cool down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as, and I forget what the benefits would be for those ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If it's damaged, I mean, if it's area of fact, I forget what they are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But adding a cool down would let me just hold down right trigger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If it was there, and then whenever it's ready, it'll cast it again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The totem is something that's always going to have to be my X skill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I've been enjoying it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a lot of fun of theory crafting and going through and making those choices and it's nice when your choice is actually pan out to be strong too So I'm enjoying that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's wrap this up play some I'll get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is the privately not for Asia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be playing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to play the fun privately?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's on our discord in announcements.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're welcome to join.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We will add members as needed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So nowhere is there and should be fun hardcore solace.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll found keepers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys think it's called no keepers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, throw up sub forever X.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 330.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just naked takes and I'm Tyler record days patrons will catch you and after dark everybody else see next week in three three one and our privately we'll have almost finish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, have fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll find them down below.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.