Celebrating with Pillows and Bubbles

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to forever excelled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Justin aka tags, and I'm Tyler record of days Episode 333 of our podcast together Here we are just you know some people celebrate episode five some people ten 50 maybe a hundred and three hundred not us

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[SPEAKER_00]: three hundred and thirty three some nice rousing numbers and round what's a call when it's all the same rapid digit uh... thought it's fun of a word is something along with no it's not like palindroma and a red uh... all right well we could picture of patrons like somebody who resubbed up this week uh... pay trying to access to afterdark to podcast after the podcast and we just keep doing this we'd love this if you like this

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[SPEAKER_01]: then after darks for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For example, Justin, do you write your threes all around or do you do straight lines in your threes?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you see them where it's like this top of the street and it comes down straight in only the bottom's loopy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You fancy getting out of here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, some people are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't start to do attempt cursive writing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I used to do my fours with the like triangle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would never think to write it that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It always just be like the outside of the internet to be like all right, fancy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what this is what adults do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll do it too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If this were to see the best.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If this works, we'll have video for episode 333 because we're sharing a hot tub together and if not, then we're trying to miss out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All these beautiful nephals that we're just going to miss out on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Could have shared a woulda.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Designed it now for the last week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And since normally it's discord's fault, when we have an issue, we'll blame it on discord even though this time it probably will have nothing to do with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are recording on discord, so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's discord's fault.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But to get this what you get, how's your week?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be better if I remember to put my phone on the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, not disturb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have to start over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why did you not record?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Recording the audio.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not recording.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just start recording now, who cares?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hold on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hold on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me get a start recording now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we're in a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to count it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know we just got our bathing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That will figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think suits on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you actually see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I went a shade of red because I forgot to hit record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, that's that's cute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just that's cute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and, and, along, reminded me as well, but, uh, we have, uh, this week, we have episode 300 and 33.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are releasing it on February 22nd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Second is number 20.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm celebrating my 44th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, look at numbers everywhere so it's it's just rep digits everywhere right and and I also like consecutive numbers and they're it's a bunch of two's a bunch of three's and a bunch of force And so I don't know Something's gonna happen this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not all I don't like even in our notes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have my birthday there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just I know we could possibly miss it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you know it, but I could not say it just because of the whole adding up the rep digits bit so

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, uh, no, this week though was crazy, like really, really crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not doing well, but I am like, I'm going through, I don't know if it's like midlife stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's the volatility of being concussed and like, you know, the motions can go way up and way down and I'm used to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I've been dealing with that for like 15 years, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it's just been so heavy the last few months, um, like, I like, you know, maybe it's depression, like, things have just been really heavy and I can't tell if it is me or if it actually is just, you know, things are harsh on the outside coming in and it's just, it's been a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then to add to that, there's some important decisions that we've

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's been, you have to do your best to like take whatever it is you're going, and people have to do this for work, and although everything in life, all the time, like take, take that step back, make the responsible choice despite what you're dealing with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's been a really heavy blast while probably good I have to sign up for therapy soon because it's just it's just a shit, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got some of these good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I will I will but it's been a lot and sometimes you got to figure out like it's not an arrogance thing with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just I got a

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[SPEAKER_01]: sometimes you just got to figure out if it actually is just an attitude check or if it's something that you're finding much more difficult to control or not sure where it's coming from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So things have been really, really heavy and difficult for me for the last while, but she talks to somebody that's also been, I will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I have awesome friends too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I can open up to any one of our friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have such an awesome group of people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, just it's like you got to go through the motions to get to these certain stages of, you know, like, yeah, I'm figuring this out, or yeah, you know what that is actually probably the next best step and those kind of things, but some things that have been really fun to either distract myself with or important things coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you know how we put our dog down in September right and I'm a dog freak like they're just like the best in the best and so you know it's heartbreaking But for me despite the fact that how attached I was to my past dog Within a week I was like excited for a new dog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a replacement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a new companion I'll still feel sad for the old one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Love the new one life is great my wife is not like that so

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[SPEAKER_01]: Every day, I'm on the SPCA website, looking like, just looking for what's there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, we'll even go like, I'm even willing to take the family on like a weekend trip or we'll just like or something to go to that SPCA to pick up the dog and come back whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I know my wife's not ready, but in my head, I don't even know if I've told her this, so it might not be fair to say on the podcast, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've told her she's got like, in my head, she's got six months from the time Riley died to six months if she's not ready for a dog within six months because she could easily mourn Riley our dog for for 20 years right sure that's not gonna happen so um got the six month mark as soon as the six mark month happens six month mark happens um she better throw it in some input

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was some company home with the dog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I say that in a joking way, but I'm getting pretty desperate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so anyway, so that's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I even have like the BCSPCA website as one of the tabs that automatically opens every time I open Chrome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just love this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is just show you show us that from like a cross PC.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and but I mean, it has its own filters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel guilty about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel guilty about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel guilty on your distance or your favorites list or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's pretty fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this week was also a very heavy week in terms of like I was talking last week, but we our daughter's been in the process of being officially diagnosed for autism.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was awesome how it happened because you can go through it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we were waiting for five years for this official diagnosis, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: how the schedules lined up normally you'd have like your phone interview up like your second phone interview and it's like a month later you get your appointment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had the appointment, the in-person appointment at the very next day and things just like boom boom boom boom boom, it was awesome and so anyway we got the official diagnosis still waiting on the paper report but we got the official diagnosis now we're able to go to the school and get that you know like individual education plan and some coding and good

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[SPEAKER_01]: The federal government is changing how they're supporting the different levels of autism.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just recently discovered and my daughter is what's considered a high functioning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even, I'm so new at this that I don't even like the proper terminology for autism, but she's a level one autistic person or level level one autism.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she's high functioning, but of course there's the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of sensitivity, volatism and literal thinking there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it'll be really exciting for us to get there because then we're also going to I assume going to have a little bit more power than an average parent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know how like a parent's like, I don't like this teacher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like this teacher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I demand that my kid next year has this student, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes that's valid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, we've had teachers in the elementary school that in the past that we wouldn't I both or but in just like every parent's like we don't want this teacher but the teacher still needs somebody right so 30 kids get screwed in that way but now I feel like we'll have a little bit more say and like okay this is what she really struggles and she really needs a good teacher for this subject type of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So going into grade eight next year, it's your last year of middle school.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's great timing for that because, of course, high school is when you get very independent and we're not sure where she's at with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was all very heavy because she hates talking about herself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She hates attention and she had an hour and a half phone interview, like a video interview, then a one hour in-person assessment and then we're talking to her on the side and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Drain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, but she did really well and, uh, all that came on the only two days of winter that we had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, it was cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like yesterday and the day before, we finally got into negative weather with the breeze during the day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's no on the ground for like 45 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the kids are so excited to hear the night before 9 p.m.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't even gonna last the night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The kids might, can we go inside and play it like now go to bed?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you can look at it through the window, but yeah, funny enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now it's gonna be spring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, today's already a nice day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kids are going to school in their hoodie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You all know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it is not you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So today's our special day, we're in our underwear and the hot tub today, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the thrushes are back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I always thought they were woodpeckers, but you remember there was a long history here of like, people's, I'm our house, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I discovered it's not like, well, maybe it has been actually no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a woodpecker on the other side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But today it was thrushes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just started today out of any other day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been chasing them all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually saw it this time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My son pointed it to us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was on his way to school.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I ran outside and I'm screaming at the bird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like smashing my broom against the host hoping it makes a loud enough sound to scare it away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it was a thrush this time around faster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you get it to stop or no?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it hasn't done it for like 20 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you need to, if you see me leave and I get like this pure hatred and anger on my face,

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[SPEAKER_01]: When the watch is thrush the thrush the thrush so anyway, and then my wife's gonna like Listen to this later, and she's gonna be like that thrush Then she'll tell me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's the person oh she's the one like she's the one that has all the bird feeders Above the lawn that I'm trying to have the bird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's not supposed to see on so she she selfish

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[SPEAKER_01]: My seeds are more important than your seeds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, lady, so anyway, no, it's been a good week a heavy Last few months, but it's been a heavy week too, but it's been a very good week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing to complain about just the normal ups and downs of life and lots to be thankful for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you men?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How is your week?

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[SPEAKER_00]: normal week, good family day on Monday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So as we did it's had an extra day off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we went out in the morning tongue out for a bit and then my back was like net or done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then I played, um, high, high, high rule, high, um, high tail, high tail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This mug can be on the camera or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it dirty?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I forgot we were video recording so I never care about what cam, no, not because it's dirty like There's pit no, no, there's like it's just of my kids and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't put that on but as long as it's not yeah, yeah, just Keep it nice and warm Well, that's never birthdays, does it

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[SPEAKER_00]: We went out to hang out on family day for a little bit and then yeah, I played a game called High Root High Tail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Took a Minecraft game with Logan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you correct yourself or is it called High Root High Tail?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's called High Tail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I keep thinking I rule because Zelda is that from Zelda, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I never had Nintendo, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly right, I don't speak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think High Root was fable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't sound familiar to me and maybe it's Zelda.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, we played a game called High Tail, I think it's called High Tail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was fun, it's like a Minecraft, little game we played together and didn't really do much else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just work, it was work this whole week and I'm trying to find out, see, normally I would say to you, we need to take a quick break, but now we're recording.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I want to take a break because that just means I have to edit it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm way to keep running man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm going to wait to see what happens with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I did go and get More needles into my spine to see if that would help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This did not help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So And this is all just as you're waiting for that Mark appointment where they're just going to take a hammer and a chisel to your spine and hopefully that's not even the next one My next one is just a phone appointment to schedule the second of the three

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[SPEAKER_00]: Except that while we're waiting for that, they're trying to manage the pain with all these.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the trying to manage pain by sticking needles deep into my spine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, they tried to more on two more, four more on Tuesday, didn't work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, the week was fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just, it's work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they're all good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We went out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was fun hanging out on family day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I went out and like we actually did stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bing, bong, see you in the episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you'll see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you sure?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm not trying to be a jerk about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you do it on purpose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure I don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I already turned it off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is me listening intently to my friend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... you know the families are good we had a good time hangin out we went and played outside for a while and then and i didn't do all you didn't like the lady

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I washed out no matter what.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just get really close to that window.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let the light just shine in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sounds like a church song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, you're just being a guest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Your glasses and beard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it was, the week was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't really, I didn't, we didn't watch much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're just watching through Goldberg's every now and then with Logan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We watched a little bit of Olympics through work, like, just not as far as I'm driving yesterday, and I'm talking to one of our staff and one of our other offices, and all of a sudden she goes, oh no, and I'm driving and I'm like, what happened?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, is everything fine?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's going on?

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, why don't want to tell you in case you're going to watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I'm not watching the damn hockey game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What the hell just happened?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like all issues watching the women's hockey even the uh Americans had just tied it up at that point Spoiler they win But awesome game really awesome game yeah was it was I mean the American spanked us the first time They the American women are gonna have to take a break.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, you're back pause Accounts payable Nina speaking just a moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you like me to read you a book?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I'm allowed to read you a book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's like copyright stuff with that, isn't there if this goes on YouTube?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some pretty gross parts in the Bible, I could read you a lot to read to the Bible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd read you the gruffle, though, because that's one of my favorite rhyming books ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the gruffle owes child, but don't want to get in trouble for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could read you the part where in the book of judges, one of the kings gets their head,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, that's a good one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody gets stabbed in the belly with a long dagger to the point where the hilt did you keep going completely covered?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'll hate just how to go and we're just having some some bloody Sunday school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, maybe I'll leave it running and I'll just put it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: back on my video.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what's in the background.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to show a mess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can't have that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You really got to fix those laces then, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do the laces on every one of your shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Logan's nuts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he doesn't like the hanging.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he'll he'll talk them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He'll help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he wears them, he asks if he can borrow them for work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, your shoes?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because he's saying yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As long as he washes his feet, changes his socks and sprays them when he's done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you're not worried about them getting wrecked?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's just a work, just a work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And where he works, he can't wreck them and where he where he works, wearing them makes him look cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he loves it because he never, I don't think he's yet worn the same pair of shoes to a shift.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he likes the attention.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he'll tell Tucker back in and okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: some of them were even face and obstetricians.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, it was, uh, I don't know where the stuff is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to take that phone call, but we're talking about massive muscles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have text messages?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have some of the ladies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I missed a phone call from my wife.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I mentioned it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, before, and I was like, all right, I texted her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, just a, like an emergency or like, do you need me to answer this right now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: She knows him because it's Friday morning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then she sends a text back, just saying help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, oh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, FYI, nobody was dying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just need to help it work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just, I'm like, lady, you've heard the boy grow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, no, we'd know, hmm, hmm, help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just work, work, blessings on us all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Work work work, bless us every one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm having trouble sleeping, and it's bugging me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I used to, in the last little bit, I've been falling asleep really well, but last like two or three days can't fall asleep, and it's really irritating me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but switch, like, are you still off of, remember you're trying to get off of a whole bunch of stuff, are you still doing that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm off of a lot of my stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, with just my head serves for me, so I have a really hard time disconnecting from work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've just never been very good at it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if something's going on, it's like, well, just turn your phone off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I turn my phone off and stress about when I turn it back on because it's going to explode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Notification cool down is now on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Your device volume and alerts are reduced automatically for the next two minutes because you've received too many notifications at once.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was my life two days ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My phone would not shut up and it actually, I didn't even know it could do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The phone itself was like, whoa, chill out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Watch, that's not a feature.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just some sort of miracle happening to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you heard of the term higher someone?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just asking if it's come up, I'll get it has come up anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, good luck with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Blons are coming back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so remember how last year I was all pissy because the person that was supposed that I finally finally paid someone to kill the weeds in the lawn and they did such a crappy apathetic job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I got them didn't get mine like when it's good to

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[SPEAKER_01]: That didn't tell you long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I swear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, they did, but I'm like, I don't know the ins and outs of whatever they're using this for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then exactly where they went over their second coat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess you could say a few months later, that's where I'll have long died in the front.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like this guy wants to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we here and then I reseek you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you, you know on and so the whole long actually died.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you remember me saying that last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now, uh, so Aaron and I receded and weren't sure I was going to still pretty, like, it's not thick, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But...

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[SPEAKER_01]: That lawn seed that we used.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stuff's no joke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a foot long right now and all the other lawn that we had from previous years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still 80 bitty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And but it's not crabgrass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not crabgrass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's some spots of crabgrass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what do you see is how much I don't know what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can totally tell two totally different types of seeds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: get on the lawn, and it's exactly from, of course, where it died, but been wanting to cut it, but it's still too cold at night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't want to damage it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's pretty funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they're growing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be cutting our lawn soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be February, and we're going to be cutting our lawns, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's nice and green.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Although you never know here, because in a week we could also have snow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a very take and a hair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has been, but also coming up this week like it's 10 degrees again during the day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's barely touching freezing when we get at night now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we just had our little, of cold air and that was it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll take it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: up here we pretty good not busy but busy is that I haven't busy in terms of the family of the links uh... will start the top start i'm looking at the i just want to see who what wait who's the winners of the thing both uh... last of the druids uh... connect with that it's a song that's cool drawing remember you can take a time says now can you

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I will take the silences will be taken out for the normal podcast, but if you're watching on YouTube, suck it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to listen to all the silences.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you in the talent competition winners?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go to that one and go to place number three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's number three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, third, maybe third.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the last of the druids it's called.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be a coolest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember place mats, did you ever have place mats as a kid?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we still use them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have them, but definitely for our table.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ugh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the worst.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be a cool one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or you go back down to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was tall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Use that in four years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Magic the gathering.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we have a magic the gather physical game, but then like D&D stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, see that's cool because you can tell someone, well,

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[SPEAKER_00]: when there's a physical thing then it's easier to tell somebody actually made it versus even 3D printing like I don't know much about 3D printing so does it take a lot to do that I don't know but like I just hope that all these people did a lot a lot and if that's 3D printed Jesus the amount of supports that would have had to go into that or nuts hmm yeah that's pretty cool I anyway you know some boobs queen it's zero four boobs basically wait what you want to own

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there's a lot of trash with that to go on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: God love a nice pair of slames.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Queen it's dearie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at these.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why did you get me to click on this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just saw you the one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't mean to say, wow, look at these.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like past you did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Breasts now, but I guess that would be just as funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like I buy your still on boobs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at the fun bags on that hoes-hound.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where's that from that thumbtommer?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, nice, nice, I crochet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost like a COVID.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Looks like one of the COVID models.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the the valve orb for your skating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very, very well done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All good things, all good things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, I can imagine judging these things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nope, I don't judge them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man, there's a whole bunch up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm not going to look through all those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But congrats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, what will happen when they'll keep her's league?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I didn't read this old school breaches are replaced by, Oh, really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Huh, so they're keeping,

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[SPEAKER_00]: the shh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I need your brain to work quickly here because this is of course new information for you, but I also don't play Path of Excel one enough to even remember the impact of what the league had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we'll think of all those things you hated running through, those walls.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're keeping that mechanic, that that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, so what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The walls are staying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so the old school breaches are going to be replaced by the versions that we're in the keepers league with both unstable and high of breaching counters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's one of those is the walls.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the hive breach is the thing that all of them are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's there's three versions of a breach in the current version.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is one is you run into an old breach old school, hit the breach and opens up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The second one is that you run into where alith or whatever you create the button and then mobs will start coming and then the final one is this hive something I can't always call fortress or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it might be the fortresses in stain but that wall one is stain which is interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well I hope you're not right because that means like even though I'm like

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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't be playing on this street league because of how because of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it won't be every storm though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the league now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now it's everywhere, but still, like it's going to be there until I go on that, let's pass of tree and say, like, no more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, my face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't even see my nose anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just take it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to stand up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to take it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're getting whatever you give them they're getting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do I want light or do I not want light?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I wish they were just replacing the old breaches with the new breach version, but still keep it just the flame that's coming out and you run over it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just like it always was I don't like I don't like the running through the walls.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like it takes forever like you got to click the thing and then you're waiting for them all to come to you like that just takes so much longer than running through a breach continuing to kill mobs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, at least they can change that though, like they could change the speed with which you get attacked and all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They need to find those lines and not flash and have no collision at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you need to run straight through them if they're going to keep them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't like them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Genesis Tree is staying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that is what I actually wanted to ask you about because that seems just as I don't know like, but no, so you have what what's that what's that place called that I hate with the ships Kings March right yeah Kings March like that's greatest ever that's

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, but to me that's weird in an RPG, like it's a loot-based game and then that's how you're getting it and I get like we've had these conversations in the past about the disconnect Well, it's like yeah, I earn the loot through the kills through these things I'm interacting with in the map and then I earn it later, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: The excitement for me comes from the drops on the ground while I'm in the moment while I'm doing this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I killed the boss, that's my reward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so to have that disconnecture, technically that's the reward from way back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's still a completely separate mechanic that I have to go and interact with new menus, new anything as opposed to just kill drop there it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now there's something else like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they putting the tree on the ship or like like are all these menus going to be close together like it's just it's so much extra That again is taking away from the drop experience that's that's how I get it, but I also don't remember and I know that some of the tree is staying in some of the trees going so can you How did they say specifically what was so they said that graphs

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[SPEAKER_00]: aren't going to stay though, but graphs is what held your blood in order to do the tree, so they must be changing something with regards to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The tree itself, I would hope, I mean, I would hope they're doing something to change it because that's where I go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where you get all your drops that they are so much better out of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe not all these years, but you could literally pick how you wanted to craft the next item and then jump a drop of bunch and you were very likely

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, it, wow, look at my face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If, if they do it correctly though, if you don't have a breach every single zone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that makes a big difference because a breach every single zone meant blood every single zone, which meant you had a lot of blood for crafting on the tree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if, if, which is similar to what they do with Kings March where,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to find the oars in the areas to then ship those out for my loot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and it's not in every zone, and you could speck into it in the tree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, that sound is just, you're slowly disappearing, it's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's beautiful pillow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are we doing with the pillow?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's using it to block the sun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Better?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Way better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, my wife does this for broadcasting too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She actually has a pillow just leaning like that mass of pillow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you want to put covers over me when you didn't want covers over it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she grabs over a little space.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's so stupid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're getting burdens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting a lot of hurtens for every room and if she still wants ugly even how does somebody not think curtains are ugly But Venetian blinds look good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Venetian blinds are just they're pretty sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they're obviously not could even see me you disappeared and it was slowly

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[SPEAKER_00]: like an explosion happening inside of your face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These things with full wood, inch and a half, pretty thick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Venetian blinds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they don't do anything for stopping.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our letrash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the tree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If it's not in every zone, it's maybe not as bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just seems like

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[SPEAKER_01]: You to ignore King's March is a problem like you feel obligated to do King's March Right you are missing out on a life like if you don't do it, but yes

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the reward is still, it feels from what I've gathered because, of course, I don't play it much anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like people feel like they have to do Kings March.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that sucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like remember when harvest, how long it took for harvest, for people to not feel like you had to do harvest?

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[SPEAKER_01]: to get the gear, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it was just so... We saw our best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I stuck the harvest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you use it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But still, it was, it was almost mandatory for a long time, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So just all hopefully, however it is that they add this, I'm not a fan of, oh, I have like eight different places to go on now and things to figure out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's one thing that I really like about the Atlas pass of tree versus the Atlas itself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a one-stop shop, you see it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's there, you switch, interchange between menus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's nice, there's no scrolling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just boom, boom, both right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then all these other mechanics kind of go away from that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, go over here, go over here, go over here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So just as long as this doesn't feel like the rewards are obligatory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess you could say, participation isn't obligatory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The thing is, even Kings marches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a wait and see thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a wait and see thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: King's March in the way that it is right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: PoE1 doesn't feel quite as forced as because you still have to like in order to get the Ores again to get the Ores you really need to speck into it on the Atlas pass of tree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just do this to come on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or that as long as there's a glare, just don't want to share and stuff you don't want to share.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, the...

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[SPEAKER_00]: with the breach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would assume you'd have to spec into it as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's going to be weird because it was in every zone previously, which meant you got plenty of the gifts that you need to grow them, the womb things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got plenty of blood so you could actually use it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If it's not part of the core experience every zone, you're going to see that a lot less.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a big fan, like I like for each, I like the Genesis tree, I like what they did with the new one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to run through walls, click on a thing, wait for mobs to come to me like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll just do blight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd rather just do blight and build towers while I'm doing it versus trying to find these different buttons to press that, well, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a bad thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely how they do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can speck into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then if you don't want to do it, you just don't do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, good to surprise them because it's a core.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, me too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With the tree specifically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, who knows where the direction of the game is going?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's again, along with a joke of them, not let being able to let go, right, of the effort and everything that they've done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But hopefully it's added in a nice way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Got to wait and see to see how they add it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure it'll come with its.

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[SPEAKER_01]: imbalance that needs to be balanced a bit more so be patient with that when it comes out but yeah, I was surprised with that for sure because the game already seems like it's busy enough with the location hopping.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, uh, did you watch this teaser?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know there was a teaser.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I did choose your wish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it short?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My one wish is I'm gonna wish for more wishes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: X, nay on the wishing from our wishes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool, Mirage 2, 3.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is POV-1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a POV-1, Lee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I actually noticed that right away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not in their announced, it doesn't say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, what, really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it says our next 328 expansion for Path of Exile 1, but you need to know what that means.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we know what that means.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, our next 330.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those matches are one, but it's good, good, good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the teaser though, does the teaser say Path of Exile 1?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Mirage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just doesn't have the Path of Exile 2 logo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, listen, you got to know your game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's purely one coming out on February 26th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's the one they do this livestream.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll find out next week this week coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I guess yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It does have the path of Excel one logo, but yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's very POE 2-ish though with the act to like, fairer than sort of look to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually, funny enough for some reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do need to stare at the logo for a bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I remember, oh, right, the difference is the two spikes in the back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I got to stare at it for a little bit to see if it's there or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's where to this time stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's time in their drops again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just added.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if this is going to have anything to do with the new ascendancy that they added in Path of Excel too, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The deshraw or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The one that has all the gin minions and companions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The new one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Vash, vash, star, vash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if it's gonna have something to do with that because Jin's are a big part of that one that's what they're called, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yes, it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The genie sort of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a connection there with all that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bit of a backstory for another character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll definitely know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and I'll continue to do so because they came up with the 328 update and then two seconds later they came up with like they're saying hey 328's coming out soon and then like two seconds later they come up with a hey soon it's going to be time to talk about the next big update for path of Excel too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I see that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's all great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just I got it mixed up in my head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like hey what's going on and so

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I'm not alone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I am alone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when it comes to these updates, I need like path of exile one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like don't just say path of exile, called path of exile one path of exile two because I'm I'm getting the mixed up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems right on necessarily early to be telling us about the 0.5 timeline.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just have to be announcing our full plan, so we're not even in March, guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So towards the end of April, they'll announce their full plans for a 0.5.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we won't even know until the end of April, this just seems very early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're at the end of February.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's two months ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't mind, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, this is a weird, maybe they do it because they just announced the new patch coming for P.O.E.1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've emphasized quite a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're on a four-month rotation for each of us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: two month segments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, maybe it's two separate teams that aren't communicating and it's like, okay, yeah, we're, we now we know what we're working on, we're excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now we have our timeline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's announce it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, when?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This one comes out in like the POE11 comes out basically the first week of March.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's, isn't end of April when the next one should come out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then when did we, when did we start playing this last one?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's four months?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I always got to look it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what do you want paths one I'm just saying if well if if it comes out if purely one is coming out March 6 in two weeks from now Right then it's supposed to be roughly two months forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that's May 6.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, can't load the wiki So that's on May 6 that it's expect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that does line up for when it's just weird we're announcing our full plans at the end of April.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's, yeah, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's more stuff that we're now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's meant of the announcement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you find it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Excited about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I didn't touch a game this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, speak at play mostly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if you don't want to play it, would you play?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mostly Madden, Madden 26 came out on EA Play, the week of the Super Bowl, and so yeah, that would have been about two weeks ago now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've been figuring out learning, figuring out the math behind the scenes, about weight and, you know, box penalties, stuff like that, and...

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're doing custom playbooks, figuring it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've been doing a bit of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm trying to come up with a playbook that's fun, but doesn't run up the score or abuse the fact that I'm playing against an AI that's pretty systematic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So trying to keep the scores down, but also have fun at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm trying to figure that out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But is anybody playing with you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Ryan and Ian were in the same franchise together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did do a tiny bit of looking around, and I'm always clicking on POB every now and then and bringing something up,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm playing through with my, like, slow-mo character right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just find the skills boring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm really finding ED contagion just boring, but I'm also finding that adding that third button of what's the totem called dark effigy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm also finding that having dark FG is killing me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know it all it is a third button.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I hold down right trigger for S and strain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then every now and then I hit X for contagion, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that requires focus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it clearing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it not is the dot on the boss or is it not?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then just adding that third button.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is distracting me enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, is it on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it firing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do I?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then because of how dark FG works, I'm like, okay, is contagion on, right, or did it expire yet?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just that extra bit of detail that I need to pay attention to is enough to get me killed more than it's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just I don't think it's a third button.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just because that third button of dark effigy requires a lot of double checking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have the Manor regen right now to just hit contagion and dark effigy every four seconds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe it's just a Manor regen thing that I can fix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm loving the slow-mo bit, but I'm, uh, yeah, I've been finding the gameplay and but then at the end of the day, like I'm not excited to play ED contagion, like it's not a fun...

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, like I like dots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like decent clear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has good single target.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna blame it on my wife anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's always moving the stupid nut, the opposite direction that makes sense to tell you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I, yeah, so like, I don't know, there's something about it like it clicked, it gets the dot that I like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love a dot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It gets the single target.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It gets clear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can do it with two buttons, but for some reason, it doesn't interest me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For some reason, it's not fun, I don't know what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It even allows me to do the whole thing where I just want to walk around with right trigger and then hit X every now and then, like, I don't know what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe it's because it's target specific, maybe it's because I need to pay attention to durations, I don't know what it is, maybe all I need to do is change my mindset, but I still at the same time, it suits me, but for some reason, it doesn't excite me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have a reason for it, so it's not a criticism, it's just, I don't know what it is, but when it's like, yeah, I'm going to sit down and play, I'm like, all right, now I'd rather load my minion instability character, and then I keep going back to the litch and curse efficiency and that kind of thing, and then I'm like, so it's, I don't know, I don't have a reason for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These aren't complaints.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just how my brain is working at the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yep, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw a comment on one of our episodes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see if I can find it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was going to ask you what your thoughts work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some guests and you probably wouldn't have read it because it's on Spotify.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Something we keep in mind about POE 2N game, it was put in place as a placeholder and is not going to be the permanent endgame.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that that's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that the version of endgame that they currently have in Pui2 is a placeholder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think maybe there are some things that are, but I don't think Pui2's endgame was put in place as a placeholder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Pui2's endgame was put in place in a rush, and they even said that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They created the endgame when they

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[SPEAKER_00]: anticipated that they needed to, which was very close to the release of beta, so I don't remember them ever saying that, hey, this is just a placeholder version of endgame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've definitely, in the past, I have a history of thinking they said one thing when they actually said something different, and I just right away jumped, you know, to a conclusion or an assumption right away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good point by whoever it is that said that on Spotify, though, because

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, you like names, well, that's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just they, it Path of Exile 1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We joke that GGG has a hard time letting go of the effort they've put into something and trying to keep it in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Demonite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's just a joke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they're actually like, yeah, we can't wait to get rid of stuff, but these things just suit the game so perfectly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows what the mentality is in the background?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to joke that they can't let go of anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If that is the case, they're not going to let go of all the effort they put into this end game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're updating it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they did rush and game, there was a quote by Jonathan Way back at the beginning where they kind of completely changed focus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was part of the problem with Path of Exile, one not being released was how much they had to pull to get the end game working along with other things for Path 2, right at the beginning and they desperately rushed it now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did they already have an idea of what they wanted and game to be like?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they just rushed that already existing idea of what they wanted and game to be, or did they come up with that out of nowhere, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they already challenged us out of nowhere, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, you know, it was that of how the girls know it looks, but at the end of the day they've also been willing to change a substantial amount of why that was a 3D Atlas to begin with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's almost no reason to have it 3D anymore because of the things that they change.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember it was all about radius before, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that doesn't exist anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: now you put in your waste stones and it's like now basically those towers are just revealing thought of you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's about radius and overlapping anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what they got rid of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was, I mean originally remember everything was hardcore, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was no multiple attempts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a whole bunch of other stuff that was

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and then even originally, like you would have to find a different path, if you failed that map, you failed that map and you'd have to find a different path going around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome for them for changing whatever it is that they think they need to change.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully they're making these changes for them, not for us, because like we've said many billion times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you tell the difference between legit complaints and why any baby complaints?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I failed once I don't like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you know that when it's a post that doesn't say?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm just, I mean, they've already changed so much, but now what's the point of having a 3D Atlas?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not saying they should or shouldn't keep it, but what's currently in existence with the end game that makes the 3D Atlas experience require?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like their change to tablets was actually a response to them not having an answer yet for why they have the 3D, the version of the Atlas that they have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think by making the tablets work the way they work now and not having the area that's affecting the stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it gives them time or I can't, I mean, maybe moving away from that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 3D Atlas now would be crazy because it's a lot of work that's going into it and also you have to, you actually have to replace a lot because you know how you talk about weird, it doesn't really make sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's the same, it's the same idea, but right now in Pwe1 when you're going to Kings March and all these places you go to the waypoint and you click on those different areas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have sort of introduced that into the 3D Atlas where like

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[SPEAKER_00]: the realm gate, I click on the realm gate to put, I don't even know what I'm putting in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Same with when you're doing the burning, dejan place to put in the things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like you're using that 3D map to get around to things you need to do anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, I mean, my biggest problem with it isn't even so much a 3D map.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the, or the 3D Atlas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the limiting me to the,

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[SPEAKER_00]: layouts that are terrible, and then I'm stuck in an area, and that sucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is one of the big consequences to this 3D layout, as they choose the layout for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the day, not bad, but that means you have to put a lot of effort into make sure that it's simply a preference thing, that there's not like a global reason to hate a certain map layout.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's something they can change times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, look at how much they changed, strand would be a great one for PathFix all one over the years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How many times they've

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[SPEAKER_01]: strand, it just in terms of like matching monster density and not and even like how just some maps work, they've reduced sizes of locations, they've changed their checkpoint system a lot in path too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's stuff that they can do, but I, to me right now, my personal preferences, there's a lot of reasons that like there's just

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's reasons why I don't like the map, but it's not necessarily the map layout.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's how the generic lockables and things that are in the way, and it's still very much a mini-map experience, not an inclusive, immersive experience, because of how much I can't see that's impacting my gameplay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stuff that's in the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But one thing for me, and I don't know if GGG has the same opinion on this or not, but I hate screen hopping.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes I get you have to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's just some ideas that need a different screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you load up Path of Excel one and you have different screens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they're all within one screen, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean when you're in a screen screen?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's say, for example, you have your pass of screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have your skill screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have your character screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have your items.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have your world screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have your cosmetic screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those all require different screens, but they found a way to make it so that you're not really screen-hopping.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you are, but it's all available to you immediately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You go to Path of Excel 1 and you have the Atlas Passive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and the Atlas tree, yes, you have to screen up like you have to hit a button to switch screens, but you can swap back and forth seamlessly between them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a big deal to swap back and forth between them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just bringing up Madden so let me quickly use Madden as an example for the three people that are listening that also like football.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I want to check out my rosters, which gives me accurate attributes and ages and information that the depth chart doesn't have, but the depth charts, the screen that determines who's starting and who's back up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then I also want to see, oh, well, this person's salary is this and oh, I want to trade this person and oh, how long is this person's contract for?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's decisions that I have to make all the time in the amount of screen hopping in Madden.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't just go from one screen to the next and then back out and go back to the screen that I was at, so many of these screens I have to go to the main menu and then click on three screens and go there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, okay, now I have that information.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I back out, oh, it takes me all the way back here and then I got to go through and go through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Considering how many different locations and things there are to upkeep in path one, I don't know if GGG shares the same disdain for backing out all the way and then needing to go back somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But to me, that's what the current artistry is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's not a lot of intuitive screen hopping right now that allows me to go and get my stash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get my, oh, shoot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I forgot my way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I didn't realize my wasteones or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever those relics are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are the things you put in those counters tablets?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't realize I was out on this tablet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll shoot now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to go back and go to get this and to go back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still not intuitive, but then also just the generic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: prospect of scrolling and scrolling and scrolling, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Knowing where you are within each bookmark, kind of thing, like it's just a blatant bookmark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not this overseeing thing where it's easy to know where you are kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just seems good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking from a standard player's perspective, that Atlas Passive Tree has a standard player's going to require a lot of intuitiveness to be

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh...

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish them the best because it seems like a tall task no but hopefully like all i care about is a smooth experience back and get in get out make my changes are choices quickly and it all makes sense it puts me back to the same spot it's easy to see where i've been where i'm not where i'm going if it doesn't require a lot of scrolling or upkeep then it's an awesome design to me

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the only thing I actually want to do that requires menus in the game is related to my character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy to spend an hour in the pass of tree trying to make a choice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need to now because of respect and how gold works, but I'm fine being in that screen for an hour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm fine comparing items for an hour, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But those are for my character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to spend a lot of time in menus for any other reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to kill, I want my items, and what's the best thing I can do for my character, okay, sweet, let's kill and move on, or move on and kill, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where we're in use.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where we're in use.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's biggest current miss on the ungame for me is just how fast you can get into maps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can just do it so much faster in POE1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you eat too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Takes a little too many extra clicks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One thing for you, one difference for you in terms of the comparison for you is you're not used interacting with the Path of Excel, one map with the controller.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're used to be able to using the most and go click-click-click-click.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know what that's like in PathTube.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would think it's still the same amount of clicks though because it's

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[SPEAKER_00]: map device, section you're going into add map.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's an extra one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying it's a ton.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I will say the one downside to their, their little 3D map is I wonder what the Atlas is like, especially as you're progressing further through it when you have an older computer because that could be even longer to then load up a new map because you're now waiting for this thing to load before you can do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I don't, I don't, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So think of this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say it was a 2D map, but still require the same scrolling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So instead of it just having the 3D yard, it was 2D, but you still scrolled around, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it kept expanding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Would that change anything for you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the amount of clicks is still the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, my, like, the idea of the that, let's, like, it was really cool the first time we opened it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that was it was pretty

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're so early into what their endgame looks like, but it just takes longer to do maps right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I find the maps themselves are massively longer, but just if I want to turn on a couple maps and run a couple maps, the process to go, okay, right now I've got this one favorite.

53:41.350 --> 53:45.235
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm working on, I want to do these five that I've rolled, they're ready to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't really get to do that in Pewey too because I'm dictated by the game as to which map layouts I'm going to get and some of them are horrible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of them are just so, they're way too big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's way too many doors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's the layouts are just not very functional.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The, you run into a bot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The worse for me is I want to kill a boss.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I come across a boss, I want to kill a boss.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not playing hardcore because I'm not crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't why I suck at hardcore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to do hardcore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if I go do the boss and I die to the boss, while I maybe haven't fought that boss many times, my map is done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The map is empty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can kill the boss, but the map itself has got no mobs in it, no extra content, nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it just, there's not as much excitement for me to go mapping and end game in Pui2 right now, as they're, I mean, Pui1 has had so much more time to create itself and then learn from it and adjusts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Pui2 still has a lot to go, but my biggest problem is just it takes longer to get into them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It takes longer to do them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still feel like it's unnecessarily punishing when you try to do harder content.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's not like I'm dying until I'm doing like late red maps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm pushing them really hard, but then you have one portal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe three portals if it's not quite six mods.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But to lose all of your bonus content because you died once, I just, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's an ease.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not playing hardcore for a reason, so knock it off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to unrelated, but related to you, but unrelated to each other points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One, oh, they're both gone now, because I was trying to remember them both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They should just try to remember one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What were you talking about?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Endgame, creating maps, running maps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm actually finding because of how the portal system works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this isn't, I don't know if it's a criticism or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I find that with my character that's not

55:41.703 --> 56:01.213
[SPEAKER_01]: fully fleshed out yet like all my characters in the 70s right so you're at that in-between hybrid stage where you're weak at something you've either okay at this stage now I'm balanced but now I'm going for damage or now I'm going for defense and so then as you're rolling mods you know it can get scary right especially when you don't know who's coming and

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[SPEAKER_01]: all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you, I'm at that stage where there's still that section session of vulnerability, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm happy to do the rare maps that only give you one or two portals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy to do the magic maps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm finding that I'm not actually rerolling any of my maps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because if I get, unless it comes, uh, drops as normal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if I get a magic map, I'm like, okay, that's a nice break.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, let's do this wheelie nearly have a good time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's probably where I'm going to dial the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, and then I'll do the rare map every now and then I'm like, all right, now it's time to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I use it.

56:34.351 --> 56:36.834
[SPEAKER_01]: I use the games are in G system as the variety.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm actually finding I am doing, I'm interacting less with maps, just because of the portal system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas the half-one drops by doing that, which sucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, I also want to enjoy it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to be on the trailer the whole time like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The game's about the progress, like I'm not criticizing the game, but I'm not level 90 doing these maps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm level 74.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not fully fleshed out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still need stuff, I'm still vulnerable in areas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I need to play the risk reward game based on progress.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you do need to consider how large the areas are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because sure, okay, I survived this half the map so far with these crazy mods.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but like there's I'm going to come across a lot of randomly rolled enemies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all it takes is one,

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[SPEAKER_01]: pretty easy combo, and I'm done, and so the size of the area does actually impact my choice based on how many portals am I willing to risk or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that being said, like, that's not a criticism.

57:43.899 --> 57:48.405
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, I've actually just found that I play, I don't do the Alkengo kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you would do in path one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this one is just okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is how it dropped.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I am finding this is the other unrelated point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm glad I remembered is the size of the areas that you mentioned, is actually impacting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm playing less because of how large the sizes are, because I love being able, oh, sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got half an hour, let's do two maps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well now it's like, okay, I have half an hour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad I can pause it, but I'm not going to be able to finish this map before I need to get back to making dinner and I'm not going to keep it paused and keep my Xbox on wild dinners on so I'm just now.

58:25.317 --> 58:28.302
[SPEAKER_01]: How long do you find maps take you in puey to at depends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, my character's not fully fleshed out trying different things.

58:31.668 --> 58:35.434
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not using like the super duper made a meta, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have the one thing the so that one portal or no the one map thing that I got remember when we discovered it could take up like my entire hideout or bigger Yes, I didn't really enjoying that But lately I've gone back to using the one they the one that has the timer on it

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I've gone back to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's about 15 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but that's not bad.

58:58.672 --> 59:01.318
[SPEAKER_01]: But I am not doing full clears like I used to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I only I do the boss in the race.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all I care about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As I get, as I start investing into the other content, like I'm getting into strong box and stuff.

59:10.256 --> 59:23.460
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll make sure all the strong boxes are done, but if I'll all pass, like, unless sometimes it's on the other side of the map, though, you're like, no, right, and they do need, I think what they need is a checkpoint system that,

59:23.440 --> 59:27.048
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know if rares are allowed to wander the entire map.

59:27.068 --> 59:33.783
[SPEAKER_01]: If that's how they can aggro, or if they have a radius with which they stick to, but I don't know how their map design works.

59:34.365 --> 59:34.465
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

59:34.485 --> 59:36.810
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think they would need a checkpoint for these things.

59:36.850 --> 59:40.318
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a checkpoint close to where things actually spawn.

59:40.298 --> 01:00:07.808
[SPEAKER_01]: you know what I mean so that you can oh shoot yeah okay this is over there i don't have to run all the way across the map i think that would be marvelous right just an upgrade to their checkpoints i think would be a checkpoint though in an area that you have not yet discovered yeah but there should be enough content within a map that's like oh shoot i missed that over there there's a checkpoint close-ish because there's a strong box or rare that i killed over there something like that you know i think we'll find a good balance without you just

01:00:07.788 --> 01:00:08.409
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, sure.

01:00:08.949 --> 01:00:09.310
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course.

01:00:09.710 --> 01:00:18.119
[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, like, you know, when you finish all your, I don't know what they call missions within a map, you like, all your circles are checked off.

01:00:18.139 --> 01:00:22.464
[SPEAKER_01]: This, like, orange pillar, this orange checkpoint thing drops right there you are.

01:00:23.825 --> 01:00:25.247
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually don't know what the purpose of that is.

01:00:25.447 --> 01:00:29.011
[SPEAKER_01]: It was so that you could go to the boss that orange one is.

01:00:29.031 --> 01:00:31.213
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't even if you haven't killed the boss.

01:00:31.868 --> 01:00:32.850
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

01:00:32.870 --> 01:00:36.276
[SPEAKER_01]: So then I've just been by coincidence, killing the boss all the time.

01:00:36.316 --> 01:00:38.761
[SPEAKER_01]: That's really cool, but you know what else it would be cool.

01:00:39.462 --> 01:00:49.882
[SPEAKER_01]: Wherever it is that you've been and you've dropped something like if you've killed a rare or whatever it is that's on the map, whenever you've completed it, a checkpoint drops there just like that.

01:00:50.042 --> 01:00:52.527
[SPEAKER_01]: That could be a lot if you're talking per rare though.

01:00:52.507 --> 01:01:16.118
[SPEAKER_01]: per rarer maybe but I mean or like that happens but you can only have a check point within a certain radius so it's not so convoluted but something like that so that okay shoot I haven't gone there but this was close enough you know what I mean and then you're not I don't know it just ideas just spit ball and stuff like maybe that would really save me time because right now i'll have 45 minutes i'm like maybe one map maybe

01:01:16.469 --> 01:01:43.067
[SPEAKER_00]: me bitching about losing the map to the boss is something I could very easily not go through by just skipping the boss until I'd completed all the other content I just for some reason that bothers me like if I'm hugging the right and I come across the boss or you know I want to do the boss or you know but it's always confused me why yeah I don't know why penalize people that are purposefully not playing I'm playing soft core for a reason I am soft core I am

01:01:43.047 --> 01:01:46.955
[SPEAKER_00]: Call it whatever you want, but I just want to play the game and if I die I die.

01:01:47.516 --> 01:01:48.618
[SPEAKER_01]: What was the reason?

01:01:48.678 --> 01:02:02.625
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I remember they've gone through the transition of you only get the one try and then there was a few other things that they were trying as well, but now they've they're at this transition phase, maybe this is the way it's going to stay, but what's the reason?

01:02:02.605 --> 01:02:06.090
[SPEAKER_01]: for removing the rest of the map if you fail at a boss.

01:02:06.511 --> 01:02:08.134
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you remember, I don't remember what they said.

01:02:08.154 --> 01:02:09.436
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I don't know why either.

01:02:09.476 --> 01:02:15.025
[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing I can think of is maybe because XP's removed so that you can try the boss again.

01:02:15.125 --> 01:02:21.114
[SPEAKER_00]: I honestly, I'm not really sure, like the whole, I don't know because I could be wrong on the XP thing.

01:02:21.194 --> 01:02:24.259
[SPEAKER_00]: The XP thing to me is great when I'm doing

01:02:24.239 --> 01:02:29.206
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the arbiter, what I think, whatever the last boss is.

01:02:29.306 --> 01:02:31.650
[SPEAKER_00]: When I get those three things, there's no mobs.

01:02:31.690 --> 01:02:35.856
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not getting XP from mobs, and the fact is one boss never gave me much XP anyway.

01:02:35.916 --> 01:02:38.520
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't mind the fact that I don't gain XP.

01:02:38.540 --> 01:02:42.566
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't lose XP, but at least I can try it a few times to give it a shot.

01:02:42.726 --> 01:02:44.048
[SPEAKER_00]: In a map, I have no idea.

01:02:44.128 --> 01:02:45.911
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, take my XP.

01:02:46.492 --> 01:02:48.835
[SPEAKER_00]: If I die to a boss in a map, take my XP.

01:02:48.915 --> 01:02:49.316
[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.

01:02:49.677 --> 01:02:53.402
[SPEAKER_00]: But don't wipe out the map.

01:02:53.382 --> 01:02:55.226
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a me problem.

01:02:55.286 --> 01:03:05.690
[SPEAKER_00]: If I can keep running my body against this thing and I lose 30% XP, everybody who's played Path of Excel knows that that's part of life and I should just not be that stupid.

01:03:05.710 --> 01:03:12.606
[SPEAKER_00]: But how they're doing it now, I'm not really sure what solution, what problem they were trying to solve, I'm not really sure.

01:03:12.586 --> 01:03:17.754
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty, something in my brain's telling me it had something to do with how people juice maps.

01:03:18.715 --> 01:03:23.423
[SPEAKER_01]: And there was, I don't know if it was an abuse system, but there was something about it.

01:03:23.903 --> 01:03:28.731
[SPEAKER_00]: It was supposed to be penalizing you that if you died, you would lose it, and but I don't know why.

01:03:29.311 --> 01:03:33.598
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if I have three portals, even if I have six portals, uh,

01:03:33.899 --> 01:03:39.584
[SPEAKER_00]: If I'm purposefully play an expedition, why not let me play expedition until I run out of portals?

01:03:39.785 --> 01:03:46.631
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd really don't understand what the downside is, what is the reason that the map has to be cleared?

01:03:46.711 --> 01:03:51.996
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if it's only on doing a boss that it removes everything in the map, I imagine so.

01:03:52.577 --> 01:03:53.197
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't actually know.

01:03:53.297 --> 01:03:55.960
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, if you die while you're clearing, but you're still in the same.

01:03:55.980 --> 01:03:56.921
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it's only once you enter the boss.

01:03:56.941 --> 01:03:57.061
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:03:57.081 --> 01:04:01.425
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh

01:04:01.405 --> 01:04:08.057
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe it's just a change of mind for maybe the design is like, hey, we want the boss to be the last most epic thing.

01:04:09.320 --> 01:04:10.842
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe I just need to shift my focus.

01:04:10.902 --> 01:04:12.965
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't actually know because I always kill the bosses.

01:04:13.025 --> 01:04:13.866
[SPEAKER_01]: I get to it, too.

01:04:13.886 --> 01:04:17.771
[SPEAKER_01]: And I normally get to it long before the maps even partially done.

01:04:19.093 --> 01:04:21.015
[SPEAKER_01]: I never knew what that check point.

01:04:21.075 --> 01:04:24.860
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess that makes sense because it drops orange and orange is always bossy.

01:04:25.401 --> 01:04:30.527
[SPEAKER_01]: I would still love for their checkpoint system to have like an activation radius that's twice as big.

01:04:31.809 --> 01:04:37.116
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean sometimes you're ready close to it.

01:04:37.096 --> 01:04:42.123
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got the nose, but there's some times where I've run past it and I'm like, how are you not going off?

01:04:42.143 --> 01:04:43.465
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm actually going back.

01:04:43.845 --> 01:04:48.091
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if it grazes my screen, turn it on.

01:04:48.432 --> 01:04:49.072
[SPEAKER_00]: I just have to wait.

01:04:49.092 --> 01:04:49.813
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's there.

01:04:50.374 --> 01:04:51.976
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just there for convenience later.

01:04:52.037 --> 01:04:52.657
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need it now.

01:04:52.778 --> 01:04:54.520
[SPEAKER_00]: It will be up where you can't get to it.

01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:56.743
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I've had it where it's in a spot where I can.

01:04:56.843 --> 01:04:58.565
[SPEAKER_00]: Because the range is quite close.

01:04:58.726 --> 01:05:01.990
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't get your character close enough to touch it sometimes.

01:05:02.030 --> 01:05:04.033
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's over there.

01:05:04.373 --> 01:05:04.774
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.

01:05:04.754 --> 01:05:06.702
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, maybe I just need to change me.

01:05:06.742 --> 01:05:07.305
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll get into it.

01:05:07.325 --> 01:05:08.670
[SPEAKER_01]: It's always funny how this works, right?

01:05:08.690 --> 01:05:09.434
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I won't play.

01:05:09.474 --> 01:05:12.908
[SPEAKER_01]: I won't get in the mood and I sit down with you and we're talking about our favorite game, and it's like...

01:05:13.141 --> 01:05:14.102
[SPEAKER_01]: on how I want to play.

01:05:14.122 --> 01:05:16.845
[SPEAKER_01]: And then after Darkers, and this isn't the thing for after Dark at all.

01:05:16.925 --> 01:05:17.967
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just how life works.

01:05:18.047 --> 01:05:22.592
[SPEAKER_01]: But then all of a sudden after Darkers get all the real path of Excel tuck because he started our podcast.

01:05:22.792 --> 01:05:23.993
[SPEAKER_01]: Being like, no, we haven't played it all.

01:05:24.013 --> 01:05:24.955
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we start talking about it.

01:05:25.015 --> 01:05:28.919
[SPEAKER_01]: And then after it's like, you and I will both have played in between now and after Darkers.

01:05:28.939 --> 01:05:30.881
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what I'm doing all those.

01:05:30.901 --> 01:05:31.762
[SPEAKER_00]: But it might not work.

01:05:32.063 --> 01:05:33.624
[SPEAKER_00]: It might be a set of one.

01:05:34.085 --> 01:05:35.026
[SPEAKER_00]: Or you get this.

01:05:35.186 --> 01:05:42.895
[SPEAKER_01]: We hope that GGG does not listen to after

01:05:43.988 --> 01:05:45.350
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's wrap this up.

01:05:45.550 --> 01:05:48.374
[SPEAKER_00]: We got Mirage coming next week announcement for it.

01:05:48.935 --> 01:05:50.417
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking for it to may Justin.

01:05:51.139 --> 01:05:51.559
[SPEAKER_01]: That's me.

01:05:52.180 --> 01:05:53.822
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, I'm here.

01:05:54.403 --> 01:05:56.486
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be playing the Mirage.

01:05:57.268 --> 01:06:00.472
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm in really curious to see how they make breach.

01:06:01.013 --> 01:06:01.374
[SPEAKER_01]: A core.

01:06:02.035 --> 01:06:12.510
[SPEAKER_00]: I assume it's going to be a big topic point except that hopefully they do that in the video, because I don't watch the interview, it takes up too much time, but cool that they do it,

01:06:13.267 --> 01:06:17.053
[SPEAKER_00]: Shut this up, then, in the bathtub, forever exiled, maybe in the bathtub.

01:06:17.073 --> 01:06:21.679
[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot, forever exiled, 333, I'm just naked, tags.

01:06:22.300 --> 01:06:23.442
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm Tyler record of days.

01:06:23.803 --> 01:06:30.372
[SPEAKER_00]: Patrons will catch you and after dark, everybody else will see an ex week in 334 after the Mirage reveal.

01:06:30.573 --> 01:06:39.185
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're looking for more information on website forever exiled.com, we have a very fun discord pop in there, say hello, and Patreon and other ways to put podcasts to find them.

01:06:39.846 --> 01:06:41.569
[SPEAKER_00]: Down below, in the bubbles.

01:06:43.186 --> 01:06:45.096
[SPEAKER_00]: in the bubbles, bye.