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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to forever exiled them just in your k-tags, and I'm Tyler record days episode 310 of our pod cast together.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's very array.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: September 12th today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's about as important as a 310th episode.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Big shout to our patrons thanks everybody who resubbed up this week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We love your faces Patron gets the access to afterdark.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So by guests after the podcast and we just keep doing stuff and things You got the background's pretty trippy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey I'm showing you move your hat around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you can keep it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm red.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm red.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got you across discord background's going on I don't need to change it to this pretty stellar

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's that movie?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's from Mitchell's versus the machines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I watched K-pop Demon Hunters for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So get it over me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You tell your kids, you tell your kids, you're kidding me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My wife is a PC snob, which means when you speak and she speaks, you guys are just like, you're okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you guys just have this stupid little club where it's like, well, Joseph, so it's good to have me do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so yeah, you infiltrated my family a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mitchell and Emily, not more than I think.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Mitchell and the Miller Mitchell is the machines machines.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a Netflix original.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you have it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's your family's going to watch Netflix.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sure, your face.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you didn't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I did this this this this week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's part of my this week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Justin, how was your week?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, hold on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: First off, September 18, 2020.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Mac release.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, hey, hey, good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know exciting Mac users have been playing Path of Exile for five years now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't want them back then.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was good, it was, it was uh, yeah, overall was good, it was busy, but yes, I did I cut off uh, Netflix and Disney Plus, but it's not really good, because you said those were, you said those were masks for the kids, yep, but I'm trying to try and steal it another way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't steal.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Pay for everything, but trying something different.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, except you're not paying anymore and you're still going to try and get it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so paying.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Just differently.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Paying yourself?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The $15 a month?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that how you're getting away with it?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think my Netflix was 20, what?

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[SPEAKER_03]: $27 a month?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, of course you had like the super-paste of the time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we have it on the market.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know they have more packages, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but you know that you're limited to how many devices can have it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I have 20 devices that have Netflix.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm not you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have multiple devices.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Each of the kids have a device.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Netflix is a douchebag and counts all of those against me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They don't count it by location.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, they don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's stupid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You just say this is your Netflix TV.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Share it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was just too expensive and I was like, well, Disney Plus is actually not terribly priced in comparison But only because we were paying the higher price like Netflix doesn't have or Disney doesn't do that But yeah, we We were paying for two Amazon Prime accounts

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[SPEAKER_03]: We were, um, I'm trying to get off of Google photos.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm, that's my, that's been my current project for this week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's been fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm building a, uh, I was trying to talk about an afterdark, but I'm working on building a, just a little Linux server that, uh, run some software that lets us move off of Google photos.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Not that we pay that much for Google drive stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: having a little bit more secure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Plus we were paying for Amazon Prime's photo part, which was an extra $150 a year to online back up all of our like actual pictures that are on our network storage in the house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is a thing is unlimited pictures, but limited video, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you have to pay extra if you want video storage.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know exactly which one we had, but I realized that it hasn't been actually properly backing up for like three or four months.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I was like, well, I'm not going to, I'm not going to keep paying for that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If I can figure out a solution myself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I had some fun doing that this week and other than that, I had a rough week with the back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it was.

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[SPEAKER_03]: combination of a struggle with the back, but also just other, you know, like I, I just was not feeling great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There were things going on, it just wasn't feeling good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I decided on Saturday, Saturday or Sunday of last week, that in order to find the culprit and determine what the problem was, I was going to cut out everything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Everything except.

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[SPEAKER_03]: the one pill that I have to take, twice a day, otherwise that's the awful, like you went to withdraw.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I cut out everything, all of the things, all of the all of the drinking things, all of them, anything that could be considered not just basic food, hey, cut it out, drinking nicotine, pills, everything, all of it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: that was a terrible decision to just go like I'll stop at all.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I've spent most of the week in a cold sweat.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you were on a lot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Also, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm too okay to, you know, I'm doing okay with it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, no, like the going cold turkey just wasn't working for me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Trying to cut out everything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I have a lot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'd like an idiot, the one that I thought, like, well, this is the easiest for me to just not take was the pain medication.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's really, really quite stupid, but yeah, I mean, I have done actually surprisingly well, but massive, massive struggle through this week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, it's been a week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's been, you know, overall it's good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, kids, kids are healthy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We've had some stuff that you had to get done on

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have been good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've had a good week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The kids are having a good time at school.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, but has like a water park day today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, she has the same teachers as last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's two teachers with how the her school works for middle school and one fine sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The other one is I'm surprised they're a teacher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, just with their ability to like discipline follow up teach like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: actually help the child understand what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Aaron and I were going through all the kids school stuff that they brought home last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We should have done at the beginning of summer, but life got away with us and so we were doing it a couple of weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we were looking at all the papers that this specific teacher taught science, math, that kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they they're like empty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like these aren't things that she brings home that I would know but the teacher never talked about her being late or having incomplete work or anything like that but there's just like finished page you know like maybe my daughter was like daydreaming or she only saw one side of the page so there'd be a note like finished page so I'm not really like but there was like tons of work so it's just I don't know anyway Aaron and I had issues with the teacher earlier like nothing

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[SPEAKER_01]: frustration.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Disappointment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she got the same care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, if I know what she wanted is she got, I think she's new.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she got the same pair against.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and that works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Violet stage any you can pick up like the science stuff anytime in life because that stuff is just as intricate as like in just like as your interests grow in life you just you can go on blitzes of and and learning things right Especially at her age where it's called the generic middle school stuff Where you're not having to like get specific into which type of science you want to study in it's your choice But the math thing that hurts like when you don't get math at school

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[SPEAKER_01]: it really hurts and it really follows up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can teach her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We practice.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think science is in the same boat.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like my grade eight science teacher was terrible and that messed me up for my science is going forward, especially chemistry because I could not find out your elementary school science.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, but that's great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Eight versus yours.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Seven.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's the only your difference.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Eight was just science.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We took science and great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Eight.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We didn't get to do our picked ones, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Until later.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm agreeing with you that a teacher can have a massive effect.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Learning that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's too bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can really set you up for failure too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, but yeah, but there's still at the stage of like this these like sciences like these are the solar system, which one has the rings around the planet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I did that in grade two, but my memories all screwed up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that's just like parent complaining to parent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Life is great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kids are healthy, wife is healthy, or jobs great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like our house is in a good situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The weather's finally calm down to the extent where we're getting overcast weather again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the end of summer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now we're starting fall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, well, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: halfway through September already.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, we're getting into like the low 20s now for summer heat, which means I can now recede the lawn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We went, our mulls went nuts this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The mulls have always picked our yard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have like 30 big dirt piles in our yard and we flatten the mull and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to try and cover it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have some old grass seed that I still haven't used up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I said ages ago that I wasn't going to reseed, but I got to get this money's worth out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So whenever the weather's right, I'm going to be reseeding in that now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then my wife and I, we got this like friendly spat about the garden.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See which garden I'm the gardening guy, the front one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the gardening guy, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where we have like our nice bushes and I really started conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the gardening guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am the gardening guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the one that waters the plants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the one that organizes where which plants go where and what and trying things out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But she has her opinions regarding it and obviously she likes a nice looking garden, but she doesn't do anything in the garden, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like when it comes to the chores, she'll do whatever chores interest her, the gardening chores don't interest her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So at the end of the day, she has her strong opinions about what the garden looks like, but she doesn't do anything about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not as a criticism, it's just that's how it goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this week, I'm like, okay, I don't like how the garden looks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I tried this set up and I don't like it, so I'm going to change it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But one of her things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What was this set up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But just like we're certain plants are our space, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like boxwoods versus hydrangeas, and then which hydrangeas are the full sun, and then the ones that are fine and straight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or they're not in yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I could move them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're still young enough that I can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a nice, uh, we have two hibiscus rows of shares that are in the separate corners that are doing well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One's kind of underneath the magnolia tree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like desperately stretching for sunlight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I keep having to, uh, put up some stakes around it to support it so that it's going vertical and sort of on an angle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I wanted to kind of grow just underneath the, uh, the living room window.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But one thing that I was trying, and I really like this, because when it comes to me with kids and stuff like that, just the generic interaction of life is obviously very educational.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I wanted something for them to kind of year round with our climate, be able to like, oh, yeah, let's snack on this, or let's have this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, this isn't right yet, or oh, no, this one's bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just something that gives them an interaction of understanding a little bit of gardening that isn't at the grocery store, I guess you could say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I have strawberry plants that are just growing free throughout the garden and they're fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're wonderful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're

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[SPEAKER_01]: really like their ground cover, they just, they're this nice thick green leaf plant that goes but maybe one foot high the ever greens but they spread like crazy and they can completely handle our climate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can ignore them and they're just going to keep spreading and spreading but I like that as like a nice thick ground cover as the other nice flower bushes grow up throughout either the spring or summer, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I really like that and that's that worked out perfectly

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, he likes like the dead space, you know, like bark mulch and stuff between all plants Which I also like as well, but the reason that I like this ground cover was a like I like ground cover just as much as I like the dead space But that's just like a huge amount of strawberries that the kids any time they want can be like, oh wow There's a full red one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh shoot something got into that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, here's another one You know something that they can interact the garden with and kind of get along well with that

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, this week was actually my, like, okay, I'm going to make a choice this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Am I accommodating my wife's opinion or not?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, in almost everything else in life, you say, yeah, obviously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is something where I put in all the work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's like, well, you know, what, how about you water the plants every now and then?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and then maybe me feel a little bit better by having the garden your way instead of my way, even though I'm doing all the work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's totally get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this isn't something we fight about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Something we pretend fight about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a funny little constant result between each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I spent $200 a comma dating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I bought these wooden barrels.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm at the home depot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's out of season now, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: September.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So all the gardening stuff's on sale.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I bought these wooden barrels.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have big like two feet in diameter ones and maybe two feet deep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all that gardening talk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost as bad as filter talk for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he got one of those faces where his face is like you know, it's like your mouth is further early-wide.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can tell it was important.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is what being a good friend is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what being a good friend is just kidding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a horrible friend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pardon me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do I need to take anything out?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just talking about how amazing I am.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, super amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I spent some money on some

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's some gardening soil and I bought two big wooden bins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I brought even brought out our cracked wheelbarrow from the back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just the, you know, like, okay, well, maybe you can spray paint this and plant something in and have the bushes grow around it because a wheelbarrow kind of look as like a placement thing, it suits a garden, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So just doing things, but I'm thinking of putting the strawberries in those planters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then the kids still have, like, I still have that nice thick, green leaf look, but then the kids still have the strawberries that they can interact with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And where we live, they just keep growing from the end of spring all the way to the almost the end of the home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like the ground cover.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would be getting rid of a law.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is spread a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be getting rid of a lot of strawberries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm still having that tough thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then that's coupled with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where do you have this ground cover?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because this is not the front.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But unfortunately, right now, there's been a lot of other plants that have just popped up out of nowhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can show you the next time you stop by.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like on the right side of the driveway?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, on the right side of the driveway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've not even noticed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll show you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have time for lunch or something this week, I'll show you when you come get me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause, wait, hey, just, okay, hey people, listen to this, listen to this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is, this is, you're gonna, you're gonna hear it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, just.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Next time we go for lunch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I pick you up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that maybe is just for the sake of the listeners, but anyway, that's kind of coupled with now, like obviously I'm going to do what my wife wants in this gardening situation because the last few days have been a little bit harsher with my dog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and today we're having like that final conversation we're probably going to like have that like make up our minds right after the podcast about when we're putting down our dog and Riley's been with us since like the beginning of marriage and

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[SPEAKER_01]: we're big dog people and so she just turned 15 at the end of August and but it's just at that place now where her and its tough because it's not like she's dying in her sleep her mind is still totally there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just the functionality parts now at that edge where it's like okay she's just gotta go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and of course we're two different people making the choice we're pretty much on the same page but the choice is kind of like now okay well it's not a rush because it's not like a suffering thing it's you know I don't want to be encouraged with it but it's a constant instinct but now it's like okay well we could

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, do that by the end of the day or tomorrow morning or we could wait until like her little set of work days is often on Tuesday and kind of tolerate it for the weekend for longer goodbye, but tough choice tough choice but now because we're doing that and I have to do the garden stuff now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, just because of time, I got stuff is all about timing, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I wait, then I got a wait until springtime.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I got to the garden stuff now, but because now this is when Riley's choosing, I'm obviously not choosing, but now because of that, in my head, I'm joking like, well, now I have to do no obvious in my wife's thing in the garden.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, that's too bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome week, great week, nothing to complain about, but for anybody that's a dog level out there, it'll be a heavy, heavy little bit for us coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's thanks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's all right, but thank you for being so accommodating this morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's um, all right, Path of Exile.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't heard of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, actually my wife and I, we played a bit this week, even our date night, she was into Pewey, too, and she said, Oh, cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you instead of like watching something and cuddling could be be in separate rooms and complain about the beta?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because even if like when you get excited about something any time you're playing a game, I'll say,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know that's kind of like how half your night's going to go when you're playing co-op, but that she's been excited enough about path of Excel too That's what she wanted to do and I was totally fine with it

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[SPEAKER_01]: and it's funny every time somebody levels up I think of you because before you when I was playing video games someone levels up and it's like awesome like that that's what's supposed to happen keep going make your pick quick or take a time whatever it is let's but you know game game game game game and then you and I start playing games co-all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we used to play a lot of different words like bothers you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's single word.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we used to do like NBA and we'd sim a full season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'd do follow three and take turns with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The tons and tons of games going all the way back to our moda and all these other games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were worms, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you'd come over and we'd play worms or scorched earth on my floppy disk computers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, but then all of a sudden we started getting into air PGs and somebody would love a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is after like, it was not the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was only after you started hanging out with other people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like the internet came around and you started doing things like, wow, or playing games with other people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden, like, when they after that, you start

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[SPEAKER_01]: We start, you know, we're playing whatever game, and then I level up, you're like congrats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, for what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just remember like the very, like, for what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, you leveled up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yeah, it's what I'm supposed to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you just don't let that notice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's what it's like in my head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But from whatever point in your life, whatever experience these other people infiltrating you, every time, every single time someone you're playing with levels up, you're like congrats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now like that's weird to me like I like it's nice it's good like hey you finally did it especially as you get into Path of Excel and if like you've hit 97 and you've never hit 97 for like yeah yeah congrats but from like level 20 in the campaign it's not a congrats like come out let's go You want to know how I can make an argument against what you're saying because you have not done like a lot of other people put on an mtx that explodes the screen when you level up and that feels like it deserves a congrats

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I got the whole, all right, right, and which I love that they do that, but so it's one of those things now because you've really didn't do that, but because, okay, now you're being nice and now I can tolerate your kindness, whatever, and it's fine, but then like when we're playing with other people, like let's say we're playing with Josh and then Josh levels up and you say congrats, am I supposed to say congrats to is like everybody in the party supposed to be like congrats congrats congrats congrats congrats congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, well, maybe, but I think it feels stupid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now I'm playing Path of Excel 2 with my wife, and she levels up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you say it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it feels weird when I don't say it because of you, because now it's like you're one uping me, but then if I do say it, I still think it's stupid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a part of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that like I did anything of like level 90, you just turned 20.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yippee, like you say congrats at the end of a boss fight that you hate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like when we beat G in order to get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sorry, Gregory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me tell her when we graduate together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gregory together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yeah, good job, congrats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Congrats, Kiyo and I just- Well, no, like, she beat when she beat G&R on her own.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, she hated that fight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just as much as we did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, just, she, like, her opinion of that fight is that is stupid all the way through, just because of the lack of reaction times certain tells give you, or like, it's not telling you where, especially when you're co-op, like that fog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When we're fighting Gregory and we're in the fog ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You will have the dialogues like, oh yeah, you don't know where he's going to die or that's how it and then he pauses and then you know when to dodge roll, but not when he's called dodging right into it because right you there's no visual tell it's only audio, but that doesn't help when you're

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[SPEAKER_01]: playing with anyone else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we ran into lots of stupid stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, when you get into the beams shooting down, there's not enough reaction time at the very first one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just hoping for the draw getting a corrupted blood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, by the time she finished that fight, she wasn't relieved because it was wow, that was worth the effort.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was like, that was such a colossal waste of time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm so glad it's done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can finally move on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but so I'm watching over her shoulder as she does that and I just ended up watching over her shoulder We've been playing together the times that she did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know like you help in each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll walk him back forth Our Xbox is like just the other way right, so I don't know whatever you were doing I just walked over probably yeah, I was dead a lot and but anyway She doesn't I'm like yes Good job, and she's like trying not to swear under her breath, but like to me that's what you congratulate someone for in a game

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and so whenever she levels and then she levels up to 22 after that or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like Granted when you shunners

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like you ruined co-op for me because you're one-uping me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like you giving flowers to your kids and girls on a birthday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like trying to make it so that whatever boy friend they eventually have has a lot of work to do to do you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you screwed over my co-op marriage, that's better than you, not a new one-uped me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you've won up me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not me being grumpy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's me like not saying I love you every twenty-seven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My congratulations means something just and.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not watering them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't like to water down your congrats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I definitely not, but my point is, is you screwed up date night forever and ever and ever.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Date night in the love.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just needs to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It used to be in the calendar, gaming with my schmooops.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's just date night because you've screwed it over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to game with her anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those regulations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Grats tie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Grats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, that was uh, that's the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the segue from how my weak was an hour weak was to have the Vexile talk, yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nicely done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, anyway, this week in POE was a big deal for us though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you unplug your second monitor by the way, way to check things off?

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I did.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not even the thing that's doing it, so I'm not doing it anymore.

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[SPEAKER_03]: given up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, can we get rid of it then?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, do it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even read it anyway.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, apparently.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Gosh, such a tip.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So this week, can you be?

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's staff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then in Path of Excel, one news, they just had the expansion timer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did think this was funny, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was funny because it was it basically just reminded everybody that 327 is going to come out four months after 326 which we knew if we were paying attention if we were a part of Path of Excel's community for 326 and are paying attention to announcements that was something we already knew.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then it didn't even say if what's what's 326's league, the mercenaries of choices of of Trevor, mercenaries of Trevor, they didn't even say if it's going core or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now they just said ends end of over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's an ambiguous, it's not going core.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that would come with the simulator.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The vague announcement that we're still planning on being unscheduled.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's a terrible thing to say, unless you know one hundred percent, you already have your date.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just funny because there's people, they know there's people like us who are like, you're not going to do it, come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it doesn't, there wasn't anything in the post that there was there's a very short post.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, just a reminder that our leagues are temporary and that we'll have a new league at the expected time, most likely we'll tell you later, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's what it says.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Stay tuned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that one just made me giggle, but whatever did something for someone there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing build of the weeks for path 2 and then there was a content creator boss rush event between that POV sponsored with says.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gazzy and then there's some concept art for the mystery box and then some haven't even seen the mystery box for this league.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't even look at it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not spending any money on any yet.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I haven't spent any either.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just looking through the mystery art though.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It looks freaking cool.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever those different things are, they look great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then yeah, I'm not just mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So a couple of the hot fixes before the big patch, because the big through 0.3.0C patch came out, and that came out out of nowhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably as a result of what your request was, but still, they came out with a lot of things that coupled with it, but one thing that happened before that was they reduced a lot of lingering damage effects.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Most notably with Abyss Monsters, but there was a lot of other monsters they mentioned with, which I don't know the names of every monster, and I very rarely even pay attention to the monsters that I hate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some I hate so much, like the riverhag that I actually know the name of the monster, but when they say like this base-type monster, I know, has this reduced, like I don't expect them to do it any differently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless they're going to say like this monster and this map and this act like I don't expect them to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not a mere distinction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When they submit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be nice, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not a bad idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you update your form system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when they say the base type, I'm like, I don't know who that is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I really hope it's the enemy that I hate currently or in that group of enemies that can spawn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of the abyss ones were changed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The lingering effects that stay on the ground.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still love the camp where, like, when you choose to reduce the duration of these, that's the time where you think, why don't they just disappear when the enemy dies?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not given, they're just not going to give up on that, they just aren't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they have with other things, there's a lot of other rare modifiers where they've been trying to get rid of the on-death effect, so to speak.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of the times when you and I are talking, we don't mean like specifically damage that happens because they died, it's damage that happens after death.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess we should stop saying in case they're actually taking it too literally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: it's not on death effects, it's post-death damage, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the time, like you would hope, like if it's not just one person being like, I, yeah, you know what, that's too long, reduce that by 50%.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If it's not that kind of decision-making, if it's a decision you're actually making around a table with people, the conversation of,

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[SPEAKER_01]: after death damage probably comes up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If I have this weird idea that it needs to be in the game, there have been conversations with them in the past where somehow there's value to it and I can't remember what it was specifically that it was either Mark or Chris or Jonathan said, but they had this idea of why they keep it in the game to, I don't know if it was to slow it down or I honestly can't

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I just disagree.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, short into the length is fine, but how about just zilch it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm on that page too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for splitting in half, but getting rid of it completely would be where the fun power is, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know that you would even barely notice cutting it half.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure that that would be a notice for you to be like, oh, thank goodness, they changed this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because it still be pissed off to the tapping.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still staring at my health bar more than I'm actually staring at the gameplay screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because...

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[SPEAKER_01]: these things are coupled and sure in an environment where you want it to look realistic, I get the idea that things need to like blood is going to be dark red and the castle is dark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be tough to see, but there still needs to be like because I still think visual clarity needs to improve substantially on some of these areas because a lot of the colors just blend together and you can't tell one thing from another, but a lot of the times I'm

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if your goal is still meaningful combat, that's part of meaningful combat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not staring at my HUD.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's being reactionary to what's on the screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So whether that's a pool of blood that's going to hurt me on the ground or a big smash that's coming, I need to be able to react to it in whatever time frame they think is adequate not necessarily me because I'm getting older and older, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's going to be a time where the game out grows me and I can't play it anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think I'm there yet because I wasn't the one who dodge role problems, but meaningful combat is reactionary combat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I have to stare at my HUD, I know the HUD's important.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know it's value, but if I have to stare at it more than I'm staring at my gameplay screen, because I can't tell what's going on or I can't see stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The duration shortens that time, but it doesn't fix the difference between the meaningful combat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, that was a big deal though, like that's still like they're looking at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They see it, they hear it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They hear us, so that's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But see means a lot more to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The sea patch means a lot more to you than to me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, I was excited about the one thing, which is that they, uh,

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a very top of their thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now a short grace period of the start of Sprint where being hit will not have you stun you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is equal to the minimum sprint duration.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So you can now never be stunned out of an accidental sprint.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The minimum sprint duration has been increasingly to support this change.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I had a lot of people message me after our episode and say that they were running to the same problem.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I knew it wasn't just a me thing and that they're had to be a lot of people.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's done.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I spent time trying to figure it out and figured out exactly what I was doing that was causing it and it was, you know, and we talked about it afterwards that it was just the fact that if you're just a little long on the, on the B button, you, you don't sprint, but there's an animation that cues up like this animation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You'll see yourself jerk forward.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and like you come out of the role but you come out of the role into this like sort of jump forward and you actually see your character do this animation to like pull themselves backwards and that's where you were getting stunned was in that animation and so I through leveling just was very

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[SPEAKER_03]: If I was going to roll, I was doing it really hard and quickly trying to make sure I didn't get myself stuck on that scenario, so it wasn't the most comfortable way of leveling.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That being said, on my, on my dead eye, which is where I was originally having the problems.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was when the first game, when the game first came out or the league.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Once I got on to the row, it didn't matter because you were never rolling anyway.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I didn't really experience it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then when I was leveling up the,

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[SPEAKER_03]: The thorns guy didn't really matter because I wasn't I didn't care if I was getting it because I wanted to get hit So it made no difference there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I was really happy to see that that at least wasn't me being crazy And that other people that had mentioned it to me as well weren't just crazy like that they actually recognized that there was an issue with it So cool that they fixed it there was I I wish I could find it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I wish I had written it down There was something that they had written and maybe I'll find it if you're bringing up anything that you had

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[SPEAKER_03]: There was something that bothered me a little bit about them fixing something, but being super vague in giving you the information that they were fixing, that I couldn't even tell for sure if it was helpful or not to me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm going to have to go through and see if I can remember it because I probably won't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, anything that stood out for you with that one?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, like, it was a big patch and I appreciated all the fixes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, a lot of these were very specific fixes, so very specific to a boss or a base type or a unique item.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like, they're all good fixes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just I don't have the game memorized, so I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is which I just, you know, I'm like sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks really like they're really paying attention to a lot of feedback regarding specific encounters and so I was really encouraging me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like this patch even though I couldn't really picture what was being fixed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are a few bugs that

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[SPEAKER_01]: from Xbox land that like they fixed some UI stuff, there's some Xbox specific things, where I guess controller specific things they were saying, where they got fixed in terms of stash and UI bouncing back and forth, they fixed, I don't know if it was this patch or not, but they fixed dialogue bouncing back and forth, like you know how sometimes there'd be like two NPCs, like you- that was this patch?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it was this crap, but I want to show it to you, Tom, where like you would talk to you and the hooded one kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it would like the screen would really jump back and forth in a really horrible way when each character was speaking one after another.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they got rid of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now it's just a still screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just the NPC's icon or a little profile pic just shows up next to the dialogue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not screen jumping anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of little good changes like that showed up, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: like little things like uh... various skills used by the prisoner are now red flash abilities it's just like loaded with that kind of stuff but oh yeah there was one where like you know the siren lady yeah um... one of the nice boob's yeah she sings around she would disappear a ton on me i'll never had that but i saw that in the notes it did and so i would have to restart the boss fight like she would go and she would dive into the donut right then

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be waiting and waiting, and waiting, and she wouldn't come back up, but I couldn't kill myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was nothing that I could take damage with, and I couldn't leave, like in mechanics that I like, so you can't, she's boss fights.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't just quit and come back because I'd...

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[SPEAKER_01]: did put me right back in the boss bike right into the exact state that I was in love that but unfortunately because the game was glitched it couldn't do anything couldn't leave couldn't walk out so I actually had to quit the game and wait about 15 minutes for a new instance to start and then only once the new instance started why couldn't you see that since yourself because I couldn't leave the game

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wouldn't let me go to town.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't port a lot of a boss by that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I was stuck in this loop where if the game decided to glitch I'd have to stop wait 15 minutes and the kids are sitting around while I'm doing this boss fight And they think it's really cool because of all the singing and spinning and then all the extra add-ons They get to see the zombie show up because of all the extra enemies that show up in that fight and so but then it was like all right Now I'm gonna load up age of booty old Xbox games that I was showing them

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'd play a game of that and I'd reload Path of Exiles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, she glitched again, shoot, load up age of booty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they got much, eh?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was the majority of the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there was other things, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, sometimes all of a sudden the gameplay sound would stop an Xbox and I'd have to completely shut the game off to restart it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not a really good fixes in it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They should have some really worth talking to what they fixed in the valley getting starting to stupid hideout members telling you I did read that yes yes you know the one thing that I I am I think that they're going in a great direction I'm really excited for the updates that they've been doing I think they show you know there's a lot of work going in.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Man though, the performance of the game is really making it hard to play for me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's really, it's really, really making it hard for me to one and actually get to juice and play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking framerate lag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because there's been a ton of times where I'm like, because I've had internet issues.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember a few months ago or whatever it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I contacted Tell us about this stuff for a place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like, you know, Tell us is tell us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I don't trust them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's one of those things where it's like, is that my home network or is this just GGG screwing up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, it's not like it's frame rate.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's their, that my, their game is just not optimized.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It has too many things going on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I am dropping down to,

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[SPEAKER_03]: five to 15 frames per second.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When I recorded a video because I was going to show it to you of me doing, I was just doing a map, granted, it had delirium, it had a bis, it had a breach, but it had things that like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought I didn't build or add these things to the game, you know, like they, they, they put them in the game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They gave me access to these things.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They gave me access to the Atlas trees that can affect pack size and how many more mob spawn and all these things.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's not, it's like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's really, really making it hard to play because I'm just sitting there watching a slide show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hoping I don't die, which I'm not usually dying, but I'm also not like, I'm just waiting to hear a tink.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm not entirely sure what's happening.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just sitting there running around, waiting to see or hear something happen on the screen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I saw that they did a lot of like client crashes and instant crashes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But

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[SPEAKER_03]: are they have to get a handle on this because Path of XL1 went down the same road where too much stuff to start getting added in and I have a strong machine and I've seen people that are struggling because they don't have a strong machine and what are they supposed to do in endgame like you're just you can't play it if you actually if you do that so you have to make your game for the weakest product that you're making it available on as far as I know comparing

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[SPEAKER_01]: As far as I know, the Xbox Series S is the weakest of machines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If it can function on that as your baseline crappy computer, I have no idea what that's like in computer specs, if that's actually a decent computer or not, but you make it work on something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the reason why I would say focus on the console side of things is those are your static machines for like a guaranteed five years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, that's what you're making your product for if you're delving into console land, which they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just, you know, you make it for the worst console that you're making it for and then make that your minimum PC spec requirements, but it needs to work and needs to function like that needs to be your threshold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In my opinion, and then it's just, it is frustrating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I ran into the same stuff, even on my best console.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll see the jacks, which is a decent one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron was running into problems too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Most of her issues weren't laggy like that though, or frame-rated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was all crashes, but those will get fixed in time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it is tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Beta life, but it sucks.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I played my thorns guy for a bit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This, like, got him to level 80 and then I was going to try and get him further.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But

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[SPEAKER_03]: But the VxL2 is a really tough game to try and build a build around getting hit where you want to get hit and where you can't do damage until after you get hit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like you're not in the process of doing damage while you're getting hit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it got not fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't find a balance of like, uh,

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[SPEAKER_03]: being able to survive hits and recover after those hits if you're getting a bunch of them at once.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like you get surrounded by a group of enemies, then you're just, you have no, I don't have the ability to defend against that and regen or do something in enough time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I just, I got annoyed and I was like, I forget it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I went and played on my

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[SPEAKER_03]: dead eye for a little bit, and that was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Super fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Love the build, but then I couldn't do the, like I told you, I think maybe it was after a map, it's just boring.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Doing maps is boring right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like there's nothing to aim towards.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's nothing for, you know, I just don't have a direction because I've kind of done the stuff and that's fine, you know, more stuff will come out and then game later on and there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Thankfully, there's other things that you could do

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[SPEAKER_03]: The frame rate was killing it because doing the really fun juist up maps.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like I'd rather go play another game than hope I get a divine drop while watching a slideshow of whatever And then I saw people chatting in discord and I saw a Sid who anytime Sid says something I'm always like, okay Let me check this out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let me read what you're talking about and he didn't say anything except that he was loving his bloodmeach and I was like

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I did that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, look at it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't really know much about blood mages.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We've been one that always kind of like peek my interest, but I didn't really know much about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the concept's really cool, but it was only made viable for a lot of unique ideas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to regain your life through remnants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You had to play a very specific style of game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas now they've made it so that you can get remnants a lot easier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now you can come up with a lot more ideas to play with it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I didn't know enough about it or know a direction.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously of how to play it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I went and looked online to see what other people playing with it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm currently just trying to go through and put one together

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[SPEAKER_03]: The idea behind it is cool.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still only just starting act for on this character.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a witch obviously.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I, Spark is, it's such a weird skill because I played Spark before.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I played Spark lastly, and Spark in Endgame is so fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's, it feels good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You are doing a lot of damage, your boss is strong, your clear is strong, like it feels good, but,

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, you're tickling them to death.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's your goal.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like you're not going to hit them quick.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're not going to do a lot of damage quick.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're just going to tickle them until they die.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it gets so boring.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's so fucking boring.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Leveling with Spark.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have had the huge out of the local.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've had he jumped in to kill Jamir Qua and Doriani.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Only because I just got so bored.

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[SPEAKER_03]: watching their life coat down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So slow, so slow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm tough of random hit, say the tough life of random hits.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just go wherever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and my character, I've given my character the benefit of all of the gear I have and the currency that I have to buy items that will help through the leveling process.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I cannot imagine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So league star, I know people do it and

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, I was losing my mind.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I sent a video to Tyler in act one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm on my spark witch.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There is a mohup witch.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It is for me on par with the Hague River Hague.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In act one, it is the, it's in the, when you go down to fight to drive in in Diana or whatever the two people are in the grips.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's the boss, there's a mob that holds a big shield and

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[SPEAKER_03]: this base mob type when you hit it, it fires back this like magical chaos, who knows what kind of damage physical could be you never know spiritual raging spirit at you and it's

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[SPEAKER_01]: One, one, what do you nearly end up with?

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[SPEAKER_01]: To do, I am doing range.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have no other, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, here, the thing is is skipping up an enemy shouldn't be what the user wants to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I haven't done any projectiles this, this league with my character that I'm doing, but with the other ones that I've done, I've come into the same situation with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so what did I do on my way to those two bosses in the crypts?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know what, I just don't, that's not meaningful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you have to think about what the user situation is for all your basic types.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's just one of those things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like having a Rezor's in like clear fell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's Rezor's in clear fell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you, you gave me a twig to start off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Resers here yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean in my opinion never put resers, but like it's act.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's act.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I said I was like I'm going to send Tyler a video.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to kill this stupid mob and I'm going to I darely kill it too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If you watch the video, I legit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did almost die.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I saw this video died.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's one of those teary lappy faces.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure I don't remember, but I was so irritated because I'm like this is

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think my jokedy was like, we're gonna make combat meaningful.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm running in a circle around a pole because this thing, every time I tickle it, fires the most crazy thing, then you gave it volatile plants.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't even remember what the third one was, but if I had healing, I was done.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was done.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, but yeah, that's funny.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm I'm currently trying to play the witch.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I am struggling though because I am I am I am not finding the game fun even now like I'm doing the campaign for the third time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Thankfully, it's not as painful as having to do the campaign over twice.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Act 3 is just an absolute drag.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was tracking my times on it and it is bananas when you watch.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Your time-fract one is good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: My time-fract one in actual whatever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like in the world of fighting was just about an hour.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It took me just an hour and I feel great, good for you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, to get Gregory down.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That to me is a fair time to be in an act, especially if you're thinking that in the end, it's going to be six.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not talking league launch first time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure you're talking about yours.

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[SPEAKER_03]: God, yeah, movement speed and all the stuff to help it go faster.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and act two is two and a half hours, act three is three hours, three hours, like that's not fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even know what else to say besides not fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And what I'm really struggling with is like, no man's sky just came out with an update, space engineers just came out with an update.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I saw borderlands four came out, which I'm not going to play because I heard it's not going

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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to play because I love the idea of loot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's the best part about the ARPG getting that loot, trying to build up your character.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But the slog is just like, I tell you what you do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me, you subscribed to Netflix and you watch Mitchell's versus the machine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I why don't need to subscribe to Netflix to do it, but I will watch it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I will watch it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll try and put on tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we can talk about an afterdark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I hear you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hear you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't a fan of Act 4 was tough for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you like it though?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm done it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm done it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in the interlude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think my build's really strong because there was a lot of...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he wears this damage coming from in some of the really cool boss fights that I came across and I love how many there are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the quote unquote Uber versions of bosses in the in the in the interludes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The music in Kings March.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just love so good right that night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it is so good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is so good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is one of those, the campaign I just think needs a little bit more honing in all the acts, but act four, I think, took over from the method that campaigning is doing in the first three acts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's still too much hopping around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's still too much go talk like you can't skip stuff, which was so glorious in path one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you knew where you were, where you were going in path one, you didn't have to talk to an NPC until you were finished everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right complete all your quest great now I can move on whereas now you have to you have to check in within PCs a lot and there is so much dialogue like it would be nice if and fine like you know dialogue story all cool but it would be nice if there was like a skip all button

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not skipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskipskips

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[SPEAKER_01]: A was like one of the options to kill or save and I'm a fast that's stupid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I got in the habit of hitting B. Yeah, and I just just egg yeah, just exiting all the stuff except everything anyway except for of course the physical quest or words like gems or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if they can get rid of the like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they can do like a skip all button like if I can hold B on my controller to skip all the dialogue and just go straight to the accept quest or accept reward screen that would be great.

51:48.643 --> 51:56.290
[SPEAKER_01]: But in act four there is a lot of in terms of questing there's a bunch of islands that you can travel to that aren't ready for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right it's like oh yes you can come here oh but you can't go patting so they'll have soldiers there right blocking your way to the rest of the map but there's two or three of those islands and I'm fine but I have to remember what those islands are and there's a lot of islands so I went back to islands that

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[SPEAKER_01]: I already knew where dead ends, but I forgot which island I had been to or not, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I go back to the island.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I haven't been to the island yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, this is the stupid island.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I did that a few times for each of those islands.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like one of those things were just drags it on as opposed to from the map being like, nope, not yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if like when I did go to the island, but I know you're talking about because it will still let you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and then there's that one where you get the shark fin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and it's not in the whole thought.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, but that's the thing though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like those ambiguous quests where it's like, hey, find a purpose for this.

52:49.728 --> 52:53.410
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I have to hang on to this two-by-two thing in my inventory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For like 10 lovers, right?

52:56.292 --> 53:00.134
[SPEAKER_01]: But when I see that, when I get that, I expect it to be in the instance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe in the next instance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, but in that area, not in a completely different area, like you can't fix this, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the Chittis plum or something like, you know what I mean, even though that was even more direct.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like, I'm hanging on to the shark fin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I cleared that whole instance thinking that there might be something there to actually surprise that it was supposed to be for completely separate area.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then so I get the shark fin and I go into the next instance, like the next like combining area.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I completely clear that because I'm like, I'm missing something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's got to be a glitch, like just with the campaign.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I look it up online, which I should not have to do for basic quest progression in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a completely different island.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Especially if the only one you have to do that, if you're really quest related, it's the only one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It should just say bring it to this person on this island because even then I can talk to that NPC while the island still locked on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I get the reward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I make it ambiguous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm not sure why.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that wasn't the positive experience for me as I'm going through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the shirt was not being said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was, I thought the shirt would be hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I liked the fight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was a land shark doing land shark things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was just like somebody being like, now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It made me laugh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I have to say, with the exception of one more comment, I'm having a marvelous time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I know we've been an hour and it has been more negative and unintentionally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been having.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're just not having a great time, but I've been having a really fun time.

54:40.431 --> 54:45.255
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited to play path to I'm wanting to do that instead of other things with my spare time.

54:46.036 --> 54:50.299
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been respecting my character a little bit as I'm trying out the pros and cons of

54:50.859 --> 54:58.105
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, with this much investment of curse efficiency versus this much how is it how strong are the supports versus tree investment?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm having a great time with it.

54:59.446 --> 55:07.952
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm playing a lot on P.O.E planner and then I'm bringing it into the game and and loving how respect works because of how easy it is to get those attributes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, do you need?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm finding the attribute requirement that was lowered for this expansion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A huge improvement to theory crafting because now I have

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[SPEAKER_01]: But so I'm doing minions, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've started off as a witch, and I'm a lich, but I'm finding the, I don't, I'm not desperate for intelligence like I used to be before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was barely scraping.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was picking intelligence every time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was barely scraping the amount of intelligence I needed for my basic curses and minions, which didn't allow me to try anything else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't afford,

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[SPEAKER_01]: to travel nodes, where they call them highway nodes and turn them into strength before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To add an extra red gem or something to my build because I needed the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I have the ability to be like, oh, okay, cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can try this many green gems.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can try four green gems because I can afford to change four nodes on the attribute highway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, so that it's been a very positive experience reducing the attribute requirement, but then I was thinking as because I'm getting gear and after the first episode, it's like the GGG Gods hurt us and it's like, oh, you were having good drops for your first session, oh, not cool and so it was like somebody hit a button and it's like my resistor trash man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't had resist show up since like the very first day of the legal budget.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been my gear is crap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only gear I have that

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[SPEAKER_01]: is good, I bought.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not because it's good, it's just like, okay, sweet, like your level 14 skeletons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, sweet, bring them on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not like rattling chapters just don't drop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure that's a thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just don't drop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's it's been fun meddling around with all of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have the gear for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The drops have been sucky, but it's been

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there was one chest that dropped for me that actually had a decent amount of life still no resist but a decent amount of life it was a chest piece but it also had like reduced attribute requirements and I'm like you know what that's actually a dangerous one to have a leveling that should be something that should only drop starting in maps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No way I love it because you can get so screwed the idea of leveling is you are going to be replacing your gear off to

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[SPEAKER_01]: To me, it's not a good representation to your drop system if you still have that act one chest piece and act four or act five.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But you're saying that's because the rare plan around having that reduced attribute requirement, that's not the same as having just amazing stats and that's why you still have it.

57:42.873 --> 57:57.944
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, but that's that's kind of encouraging the point is because unless I get an epic drop in Act 1, I should not have my really crappy chess piece for Axlid, right?

57:58.465 --> 58:04.109
[SPEAKER_01]: The idea is that I'm replacing if I'm just getting average or crappy drops, I'm replacing my gear often.

58:04.329 --> 58:07.251
[SPEAKER_01]: Now that's not currently the case, but that's how I picture the game going.

58:07.691 --> 58:20.698
[SPEAKER_01]: The only time I have something from Act 1 is if I get that really rare drop where it has like movement speed and to resist or like three resist and a life or something on my chest and I just like an unbelievable drop for a campaign, right?

58:21.238 --> 58:28.623
[SPEAKER_01]: With the exception of that rarity, I should be replacing my gear off to enough, not hanging on to it, not having a level 10 item when I'm level 50.

58:29.563 --> 58:43.615
[SPEAKER_01]: So because I'm replacing my gear off and having a node or a modifier that says reduced attribute requirements could screw somebody over because now you have this average piece of gear and now you go to removing your like, oh crap, I can't.

58:44.215 --> 58:48.999
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I could be equipping decks or strength like, again, I'm primarily into that'll be my example.

58:49.379 --> 58:54.684
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been equipping gear that has higher strengthened decks requirements that I normally would be able to have,

58:55.144 --> 59:10.586
[SPEAKER_01]: but I didn't really notice because the fact that I have attribute reduction isn't the top of my mind every time a new drop comes like oh sweet yeah sweet wow look at that sweet well look at that and then all of a sudden like get that chest piece and I'm like oh crap I can't change your chest piece for a long time

59:10.766 --> 59:17.789
[SPEAKER_03]: reduction on the individual item or are we talking like some because individual if a chest amount of fire.

59:17.809 --> 59:20.350
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but that's specific to that chest piece.

59:20.410 --> 59:22.451
[SPEAKER_03]: If I have 25% reduced.

59:22.992 --> 59:23.572
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, is it?

59:23.772 --> 59:23.992
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

59:24.072 --> 59:25.513
[SPEAKER_03]: It's local to that item.

59:25.973 --> 59:34.517
[SPEAKER_03]: There are some unique that can drop that make it global, but otherwise it's local to that particular item.

59:36.126 --> 59:36.847
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, that's awesome.

59:36.867 --> 59:38.348
[SPEAKER_03]: Then you can ignore the last five minutes.

59:38.789 --> 59:44.975
[SPEAKER_03]: But I get where you're coming from, but I was just a bit confused because yes, it is local to the item when it rolls on the item.

59:45.536 --> 59:47.238
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not how new people need to know that.

59:47.398 --> 59:51.842
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's one of those things where the difference between local and global needs to be.

59:52.703 --> 59:56.064
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't remember how you have like plus one to all minion skills.

59:56.384 --> 59:57.745
[SPEAKER_01]: That's an obvious global thing.

59:58.065 --> 59:58.185
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

59:58.205 --> 01:00:03.727
[SPEAKER_01]: When you have something like 25% increased energy shield and plus 13 energy shield.

01:00:04.147 --> 01:00:09.969
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the plus 13's global and local at the same time because plus 13 on your chest is a plus 10 to teams in your whole build.

01:00:10.249 --> 01:00:11.329
[SPEAKER_01]: But the percentage is not.

01:00:11.969 --> 01:00:13.590
[SPEAKER_01]: And so there's needs to be something in the game.

01:00:13.610 --> 01:00:15.351
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if this is this exists or not.

01:00:15.471 --> 01:00:21.093
[SPEAKER_01]: So this isn't necessarily criticism, just saying the final product should be in terms of a brand new player, which they

01:00:22.873 --> 01:00:24.434
[SPEAKER_01]: have the purpose of this new game.

01:00:25.014 --> 01:00:34.697
[SPEAKER_01]: They need to know that, oh wow, 100% increased energy shield isn't just a super global notable from the past of tree, right?

01:00:35.378 --> 01:00:44.181
[SPEAKER_01]: If you take the time to take a look and do the math yourself, maybe you can figure it out, but there's one of those things where there should be

01:00:51.352 --> 01:00:59.616
[SPEAKER_01]: whether they include something in brackets, or just change the wording to be like, item, energy, this item's energy, I don't know, whatever it is that they do.

01:00:59.817 --> 01:01:02.018
[SPEAKER_03]: But can you bring up some real cool real quick?

01:01:02.098 --> 01:01:06.280
[SPEAKER_03]: But I also want to put a spoiler note on this one because it's spoiler-y.

01:01:06.640 --> 01:01:10.202
[SPEAKER_03]: It was spoiler-y for me after even completing my second character.

01:01:10.302 --> 01:01:11.143
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's spoiler-y.

01:01:11.203 --> 01:01:11.403
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

01:01:12.003 --> 01:01:16.327
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a hidden, litch ascendancy, what the chicken heard.

01:01:16.347 --> 01:01:20.190
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, that was someone told me that early on.

01:01:20.851 --> 01:01:26.015
[SPEAKER_01]: I still haven't discovered how I was so like, and that was told how, but I, I thought I did it.

01:01:26.155 --> 01:01:27.817
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just by a chance available to me.

01:01:27.937 --> 01:01:28.877
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just by chance.

01:01:28.957 --> 01:01:33.421
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to, there's a particular item that will drop that allows you to jump into the pit.

01:01:33.702 --> 01:01:34.883
[SPEAKER_03]: It puts a whole new,

01:01:36.844 --> 01:01:40.667
[SPEAKER_03]: You I option when you go down into the well where you can jump.

01:01:40.767 --> 01:01:42.948
[SPEAKER_03]: I've had an abyssal depths open up to me.

01:01:43.368 --> 01:01:44.189
[SPEAKER_03]: No, that's different.

01:01:44.209 --> 01:01:49.412
[SPEAKER_03]: So the abyssal depths is in the map that you go into, but you know where you go to the spot to.

01:01:50.073 --> 01:01:51.494
[SPEAKER_03]: To to do your items.

01:01:52.054 --> 01:01:53.955
[SPEAKER_03]: to get the thing all those cast on your items or whatever.

01:01:53.975 --> 01:01:54.155
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:01:54.655 --> 01:01:54.815
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:01:54.855 --> 01:02:02.679
[SPEAKER_03]: There you'll have a new different logo icon in that spot if this item drops through the best stuff.

01:02:02.919 --> 01:02:03.939
[SPEAKER_03]: And I can't remember what it was called.

01:02:03.959 --> 01:02:04.559
[SPEAKER_03]: So I did it.

01:02:05.040 --> 01:02:10.002
[SPEAKER_03]: And you have to get based I had to Google this because I didn't even know what the process was.

01:02:10.022 --> 01:02:12.903
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, am I supposed to take the finger or do I take the thing?

01:02:12.923 --> 01:02:16.605
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, the idea is it keeps offering you something and you keep saying no.

01:02:16.685 --> 01:02:16.765
[SPEAKER_03]: And

01:02:17.825 --> 01:02:43.051
[SPEAKER_03]: it makes the fight harder and harder and harder and then when you fight the final one it unlocks the lich but I was doing it as my uh I think it was on my dead eye I don't remember but I was like whoa I mean get the lich it's not like it's it doesn't it it only opens it up the lich ascendancy if you are a lich at the time that you're fighting that process like going through that process but yeah I'm not a big fan of that I just thought it was really cool that there was like a whole

01:02:44.131 --> 01:03:02.808
[SPEAKER_01]: the tendency that they never even mentioned was a lot of the best not in the patch notes I love that they have stuff where it's like just discover it figure out that the community pass and not It's a lot to just figure out like oh, it's not like a lazy and I love the concept of it But to me he guy do it for everybody

01:03:03.489 --> 01:03:22.995
[SPEAKER_01]: Well that's why I felt like it sad or someone like you where like I don't even like the lich I just think it's the least sucky of the three to which ascendancies which I feel I need to be as a minion player but I don't like the other two for the for the minions that I like a basic minion build I don't even like the lich for that but

01:03:23.635 --> 01:03:24.716
[SPEAKER_01]: whatever is at least sucky.

01:03:25.216 --> 01:03:30.779
[SPEAKER_01]: So to me, not a big deal because it just coincidentally ended up being my ascendancy.

01:03:30.859 --> 01:03:32.640
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's like a crazy thing to do.

01:03:32.680 --> 01:03:38.764
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you're going to do that, eventually you're going to have one alternate ascendancy for every ascendancy.

01:03:39.244 --> 01:03:40.765
[SPEAKER_01]: And you have 36 ascendancies.

01:03:41.505 --> 01:03:43.406
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we're not talking like an alternate witch.

01:03:43.906 --> 01:03:45.127
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like a form.

01:03:45.207 --> 01:03:48.268
[SPEAKER_01]: Or an at least and then see that's not one of these three, right?

01:03:48.328 --> 01:03:49.469
[SPEAKER_01]: It's an alternate witch.

01:03:49.549 --> 01:03:51.650
[SPEAKER_01]: So are you going to eventually do all 36?

01:03:52.170 --> 01:03:52.810
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no way.

01:03:53.431 --> 01:03:56.932
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's going to be because it's somehow ties into the theme of a bus.

01:03:57.132 --> 01:03:58.293
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's the only reason.

01:03:59.052 --> 01:03:59.392
[SPEAKER_01]: maybe.

01:03:59.452 --> 01:04:00.612
[SPEAKER_01]: But then it's still kind of sucks.

01:04:00.652 --> 01:04:06.794
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you're going to have like, if you're going to have a league, but it's like, oh, this is only going to be cool for three ascendancies.

01:04:07.554 --> 01:04:07.974
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:04:07.994 --> 01:04:09.934
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I looked at it after I was told about it.

01:04:09.954 --> 01:04:11.955
[SPEAKER_01]: I looked it up and it's like, it's fine.

01:04:12.295 --> 01:04:13.675
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's really cool for some.

01:04:13.695 --> 01:04:16.496
[SPEAKER_01]: It does it's not going to work for my build, but it's it's cool for others.

01:04:16.636 --> 01:04:18.736
[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh, and I love the edge of it.

01:04:18.756 --> 01:04:21.917
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just felt bad for like as soon as I heard it was only the

01:04:26.258 --> 01:04:30.520
[SPEAKER_03]: And it was cool to find out about it, but I was like, ah, well, okay, cool.

01:04:30.560 --> 01:04:31.140
[SPEAKER_03]: I did it.

01:04:31.200 --> 01:04:31.440
[SPEAKER_00]: Did I?

01:04:31.540 --> 01:04:32.020
[SPEAKER_00]: Did I?

01:04:32.281 --> 01:04:32.561
[SPEAKER_03]: Did I?

01:04:32.721 --> 01:04:33.641
[SPEAKER_03]: It was in my head.

01:04:33.681 --> 01:04:42.625
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, well, is this like, um, what was the, what was the extra person in, in Palavix L1 that you unlock her once and act three, and then you have her forever?

01:04:43.405 --> 01:04:44.486
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, um, the Sion.

01:04:44.506 --> 01:04:45.927
[SPEAKER_03]: Sina, Zina.

01:04:45.947 --> 01:04:46.327
[SPEAKER_01]: The Sion.

01:04:46.347 --> 01:04:46.928
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the Sion.

01:04:47.348 --> 01:04:49.490
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, well, maybe this is like the Sion.

01:04:49.530 --> 01:04:50.591
[SPEAKER_03]: You just have to do it one time.

01:04:50.611 --> 01:04:51.571
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't think it is.

01:04:53.192 --> 01:05:01.639
[SPEAKER_03]: In another note, though, that is not as, you know, I'm overly positive, I think, in general, but this week was a little bit not so positive.

01:05:01.859 --> 01:05:09.444
[SPEAKER_03]: I had like, again, my wife was like, okay, guys, let's just let dad get angry from it.

01:05:12.046 --> 01:05:23.408
[SPEAKER_03]: my which becoming a blood mage having to do ascension with the second stage, which is the what do you call it?

01:05:23.548 --> 01:05:26.489
[SPEAKER_03]: What's that one called the second one where you get the temple chaos?

01:05:26.509 --> 01:05:28.169
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, whatever that one's okay.

01:05:28.510 --> 01:05:30.190
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep, that sounds good.

01:05:30.270 --> 01:05:34.191
[SPEAKER_03]: The sum of the worst choices and options.

01:05:34.351 --> 01:05:36.911
[SPEAKER_03]: And the thing that sucked is I did the first one through

01:05:40.618 --> 01:05:45.362
[SPEAKER_03]: Second one can be relatively simplified, the more you've played it by just putting in relics.

01:05:45.863 --> 01:05:54.731
[SPEAKER_03]: Relics that give you a bunch of honor resistance makes it better, not always better, because you can still end up with some absolutely trash options, but overall better.

01:05:55.412 --> 01:05:57.513
[SPEAKER_03]: The tempo of chaos, fuck.

01:05:58.094 --> 01:06:01.517
[SPEAKER_03]: Man, you're talking act 2 was act 3 you're getting into those?

01:06:02.458 --> 01:06:06.321
[SPEAKER_03]: Some of their options are just like, are you out of your mind?

01:06:07.762 --> 01:06:09.423
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they're all so stupid.

01:06:09.903 --> 01:06:12.124
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't, don't just, don't get me on.

01:06:12.664 --> 01:06:16.725
[SPEAKER_01]: How they think that any of these, I hate it.

01:06:16.765 --> 01:06:17.625
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not fun.

01:06:17.785 --> 01:06:18.846
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not fun at all.

01:06:19.226 --> 01:06:21.607
[SPEAKER_01]: It's that the fun per hour is zero.

01:06:21.627 --> 01:06:25.508
[SPEAKER_01]: When it comes to ascending and it is so discouraging.

01:06:25.888 --> 01:06:48.407
[SPEAKER_01]: Especially because you can change to anything you want in the campaign they could do everything we want them to do in terms of campaign length and Re-leveling and all that kind of stuff, but if a sending still sucks, you know what a sending still Sox it sucks to sit down and be like I really don't want to do this, but I need to because you know it's gonna happen I'll turn on any of vampires after time

01:06:48.967 --> 01:06:55.795
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'll be thinking about my build, but I'll be playing a different game because there's just that one thing that is just so lame.

01:06:55.895 --> 01:07:01.662
[SPEAKER_01]: I get people like it, but that's not the gameplay stuff that I turn this game on for.

01:07:01.942 --> 01:07:06.728
[SPEAKER_01]: I play Path of Excel to play a build that I've created and I want to see if it works.

01:07:08.057 --> 01:07:11.039
[SPEAKER_01]: What trials of Second Man, the trials of Chaos, do?

01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:18.903
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just as this completely absurd random element that could just, it's not me playing my build.

01:07:19.204 --> 01:07:24.647
[SPEAKER_01]: It's me tolerating this odd random environment to try and play my build.

01:07:24.827 --> 01:07:25.307
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:07:25.327 --> 01:07:31.111
[SPEAKER_03]: Trying to try and build a lot of times, all it's done to me is just suck it up and over level.

01:07:31.731 --> 01:07:32.512
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, fine.

01:07:32.672 --> 01:07:34.273
[SPEAKER_03]: I really, really want to send.

01:07:34.333 --> 01:07:35.033
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's great.

01:07:35.113 --> 01:07:36.234
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm super excited to do it.

01:07:36.294 --> 01:07:41.278
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'll just do it when I'm 10 levels over top because I tried it.

01:07:41.518 --> 01:07:46.321
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I got it on the fourth or fifth try, but I got I kept getting terrible combos.

01:07:46.361 --> 01:07:47.402
[SPEAKER_03]: You only have to do four.

01:07:47.982 --> 01:07:50.464
[SPEAKER_03]: Like for me to do a whole floor get out.

01:07:50.624 --> 01:07:51.225
[SPEAKER_03]: I would never.

01:07:51.825 --> 01:07:56.066
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, four of them was enough for me to be like, I don't know what to pick.

01:07:56.146 --> 01:08:00.267
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you want me to make everything do 40% more damage.

01:08:00.888 --> 01:08:06.629
[SPEAKER_03]: Or do I want to have 40% less deep, that was my best option in one of them.

01:08:06.649 --> 01:08:07.429
[SPEAKER_03]: 40% less defense.

01:08:07.449 --> 01:08:09.510
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, well, are you kidding?

01:08:09.810 --> 01:08:11.590
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, how am I supposed to fight a boss?

01:08:11.650 --> 01:08:13.791
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm already tickling every mob.

01:08:14.311 --> 01:08:16.692
[SPEAKER_03]: And now you want me to, I had to fight the stupid, uh,

01:08:18.134 --> 01:08:39.455
[SPEAKER_01]: tornado one at the tornado one and remember i said last week i was like it's not as bad now that you can sprint well until you throw fucking laser beams across the ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

01:08:39.855 --> 01:08:41.295
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, especially two floors worth.

01:08:41.335 --> 01:08:49.877
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Aaron was trying to ascend and her best ones ended up being like losing sacred water on the room entry or whatever it is.

01:08:49.917 --> 01:08:54.398
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they've tried sacred water to chugging on her.

01:08:54.999 --> 01:08:57.919
[SPEAKER_01]: So when you try to replenish on her, you need a small amount of sacred water.

01:08:58.019 --> 01:08:59.740
[SPEAKER_01]: You always did, but yeah, five.

01:08:59.960 --> 01:09:01.060
[SPEAKER_01]: You've always needed five, but yeah.

01:09:01.560 --> 01:09:01.860
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

01:09:02.020 --> 01:09:04.362
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, now that's tied directly to crap.

01:09:04.702 --> 01:09:05.162
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't heal.

01:09:05.222 --> 01:09:10.965
[SPEAKER_01]: I got none like it's so but like her other options were absolute were ridiculous.

01:09:11.665 --> 01:09:20.250
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's not when the idea is like I got a restart am I really that's where I'm at I need to read right I had one that was like no energy shield no evasion and something else and I was like.

01:09:21.271 --> 01:09:28.454
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I mean like if I'm lucky one of those will be fine, but if I'm not I'm done the whole run.

01:09:29.788 --> 01:09:33.231
[SPEAKER_01]: It's sad, I honestly think it's all stupid.

01:09:33.271 --> 01:09:38.736
[SPEAKER_01]: And then when they add an act for and I see the mass of arena, which looks really cool in some amazing areas.

01:09:38.896 --> 01:09:39.857
[SPEAKER_01]: Cool, so I know, right?

01:09:39.957 --> 01:09:44.500
[SPEAKER_01]: You have act for show up and it's like, you see this big arena and you know what's coming.

01:09:44.781 --> 01:09:50.245
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the mob is coming, you're like, man, I want to play my build.

01:09:51.635 --> 01:09:54.498
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to level with my build.

01:09:54.979 --> 01:09:58.582
[SPEAKER_01]: None of these three, let me level with my build.

01:09:58.723 --> 01:10:00.525
[SPEAKER_01]: It is weird to me.

01:10:02.006 --> 01:10:08.533
[SPEAKER_01]: There was one area that I went, I'm like unlocking Navali and I'm going through that whole area and I'm looking for the hall of the dead.

01:10:08.553 --> 01:10:09.014
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

01:10:09.434 --> 01:10:17.877
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I ran into another one of those like, it's not a glitch, but it's like, I guess you could say a design miscommunication.

01:10:17.917 --> 01:10:18.677
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how to say it.

01:10:18.717 --> 01:10:23.919
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I meet Navali, I'm in this, like I've been fighting and I've been fighting and I've been fighting and I've been fighting and I've been these areas are huge.

01:10:23.939 --> 01:10:33.102
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been fighting and I've been fighting and I've been another area of fighting, fighting and I finally get to Navali and I'm finally around this like all these waterfalls and statues around me.

01:10:33.922 --> 01:10:37.265
[SPEAKER_01]: And I had this big, like, it's a big encounter.

01:10:37.325 --> 01:10:41.028
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm finally there and I have this, like, finalizing dialogue.

01:10:41.588 --> 01:10:44.130
[SPEAKER_01]: And my quest still says, find the hall of the dead.

01:10:44.150 --> 01:10:46.171
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I'm here.

01:10:46.652 --> 01:10:55.759
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I was talking about the dead with, with Navali on how she's like, a little bit in this, in, in the dead world, a little bit in the living world.

01:10:55.779 --> 01:10:56.920
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's talking to the dead.

01:10:56.940 --> 01:11:00.062
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's the communicator for the dead to me, like,

01:11:01.423 --> 01:11:05.105
[SPEAKER_01]: The whole conversation said, yeah, you're in the hall of the dead.

01:11:05.725 --> 01:11:09.227
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I mean, this epic room that's like the most fun.

01:11:09.247 --> 01:11:15.649
[SPEAKER_03]: But the one where you have to pray to the pool that's in the room, because that's, yeah, yeah, that's what gives you the bonus.

01:11:15.990 --> 01:11:17.510
[SPEAKER_03]: That one gives you a loss of time.

01:11:17.630 --> 01:11:19.731
[SPEAKER_01]: I forget like, which room was which.

01:11:19.771 --> 01:11:22.112
[SPEAKER_01]: But like, I'm talking to Naval again, here I am.

01:11:22.152 --> 01:11:23.813
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm having this epic conversation.

01:11:24.413 --> 01:11:26.214
[SPEAKER_01]: And the quest still says, like, find the hall of the dead.

01:11:26.274 --> 01:11:27.895
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, hey, what do you mean?

01:11:28.484 --> 01:11:43.860
[SPEAKER_01]: So, eventually, like, I'm going and I'm like trying to click on all these extra totems I go back to Navale, I'm exhausting dialogue, I go back to town, I come back in, I quit the game, I come back in, I'm like, I'm all of the deadting here, like, I'm talking, I forget which boss it is, not Hina Korra, she's the mobile one, right?

01:11:44.381 --> 01:11:45.943
[SPEAKER_01]: There's maybe it is Hina Korra, I don't know, whatever.

01:11:46.343 --> 01:11:46.984
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so I'm like, I'm...

01:11:47.550 --> 01:11:50.495
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, I'm whole of the deadting here, like I can't get any more whole of the dead.

01:11:50.535 --> 01:11:51.216
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking to you.

01:11:51.256 --> 01:11:57.466
[SPEAKER_01]: We just had this big conversation, apparently, and so I eventually figured out there was like twice as much more map to go.

01:11:57.486 --> 01:12:00.531
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there was another whole of the dead later on.

01:12:01.097 --> 01:12:09.204
[SPEAKER_01]: but it was a weird encounter to have because the entire conversation I was having was like, yeah, you made it.

01:12:09.284 --> 01:12:11.025
[SPEAKER_01]: The amount of time I know you're getting there.

01:12:11.906 --> 01:12:18.131
[SPEAKER_01]: And so it was just one of those other miscommunications where it would have been cool if I wasn't so confused.

01:12:18.711 --> 01:12:19.232
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:12:19.672 --> 01:12:19.892
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:12:20.233 --> 01:12:27.920
[SPEAKER_01]: But funny enough, this sounds like it's been a negative episode, but there's been so many cool things that I've been having fun with.

01:12:28.260 --> 01:12:39.690
[SPEAKER_01]: I was playing around with the different ranges of skeletons, like the range of the electric skeletons versus the fire skeletons versus the cold skeletons.

01:12:40.191 --> 01:12:42.393
[SPEAKER_01]: And the cold skeletons actually seem to have like

01:12:42.973 --> 01:12:45.154
[SPEAKER_01]: two thirds or half the distance, half the range.

01:12:45.495 --> 01:12:49.777
[SPEAKER_01]: They're always way closer than the arsonists or the like.

01:12:49.837 --> 01:12:50.438
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, interesting.

01:12:50.838 --> 01:12:53.159
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that was pretty interesting for me.

01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:59.903
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was enjoying seeing the different pros and cons between them right now that I've played around with them a little bit and they're able to stay alive.

01:12:59.963 --> 01:13:01.264
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks to these last few patches.

01:13:02.825 --> 01:13:17.547
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that the lightning skeletons they have like a natural chain in their things so it helps a little bit with clearing right but of course you have the pros and cons of lightning damage possibly doing way less damage than a typical damage range right and

01:13:17.767 --> 01:13:29.215
[SPEAKER_01]: then you have the freeze, the cold skeletons, and they're just pure single target, but they have the opportunity to freeze, which is extremely powerful, especially now that they increase the freeze duration to eight seconds.

01:13:29.655 --> 01:13:34.178
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have the arsonist, which have a natural AOE, which helps with clearing again.

01:13:34.218 --> 01:13:41.043
[SPEAKER_01]: So I like discovering the differences between them all, now that they could stay alive and playing around with them and having enough spirit to play around with them.

01:13:42.837 --> 01:13:43.878
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was it was good.

01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:46.701
[SPEAKER_01]: I was able to discover a little bit more about the minion skills.

01:13:46.721 --> 01:13:51.365
[SPEAKER_01]: They still need their own like description and tab with its own tags.

01:13:51.445 --> 01:13:57.091
[SPEAKER_01]: So you know what's going on, but the advanced minion screen does give you some decent information.

01:13:58.452 --> 01:14:10.941
[SPEAKER_01]: but it would be nice to know that information before I pick and use up one of my rare support gems because they really don't, you know, fall like brain in the campaign, like you would need to be really picky with them in the only time.

01:14:11.701 --> 01:14:20.007
[SPEAKER_01]: If GGG's depending on using that advanced info screen for the skills, you already have to make your choice by then and then see what the changes are.

01:14:20.467 --> 01:14:20.968
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:14:20.988 --> 01:14:23.810
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not as intuitive like I need to know

01:14:25.951 --> 01:14:30.312
[SPEAKER_01]: changes ahead of time, like for my decision making, not post decision making.

01:14:30.892 --> 01:14:35.714
[SPEAKER_01]: But, um, did you know that on controller, because you're playing controller, you can actually play zoomed in.

01:14:36.354 --> 01:14:43.976
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the buttons, one of the button assignments that I've never played with before it's a magnifying glass, there's actually three levels of zoom to the game that you can play on.

01:14:44.616 --> 01:14:46.797
[SPEAKER_03]: It's one of the things you're going to sign to a button, right?

01:14:46.957 --> 01:14:47.577
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, thanks.

01:14:47.817 --> 01:14:48.897
[SPEAKER_03]: I have not, no.

01:14:49.578 --> 01:14:51.258
[SPEAKER_03]: I, oh, maybe I did.

01:14:51.358 --> 01:14:53.199
[SPEAKER_03]: Because in the first one, and I was like,

01:14:54.979 --> 01:14:56.260
[SPEAKER_01]: It can push you around.

01:14:56.520 --> 01:14:56.800
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:14:57.301 --> 01:15:00.623
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, Act 4 didn't get the same memo as the other acts.

01:15:00.683 --> 01:15:04.846
[SPEAKER_01]: GGG was carrying about off-screen damage originally.

01:15:05.186 --> 01:15:08.788
[SPEAKER_01]: When the game was released and patches after that, fixing things from off-screen.

01:15:09.269 --> 01:15:11.630
[SPEAKER_01]: Act 4 and Abyss monsters didn't get that memo.

01:15:12.671 --> 01:15:15.132
[SPEAKER_01]: So, imagine playing zoomed in even more?

01:15:15.493 --> 01:15:15.633
[SPEAKER_01]: No.

01:15:15.833 --> 01:15:16.453
[SPEAKER_01]: Abyss is bad.

01:15:16.513 --> 01:15:18.014
[SPEAKER_01]: But imagine playing, now,

01:15:22.177 --> 01:15:26.760
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it's one of those things where, um, Oh, shoot, what was I talking about?

01:15:26.880 --> 01:15:27.620
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, camera zoom.

01:15:28.041 --> 01:15:31.863
[SPEAKER_01]: If it's bad on the most zoomed out, imagine trying to play zoomed in, just so you can see your cool character.

01:15:32.903 --> 01:15:33.764
[SPEAKER_01]: All that would be nuts.

01:15:34.104 --> 01:15:42.869
[SPEAKER_03]: When, okay, when you get to maps, go and do your first tower and watch what happens now when you activate the beacon.

01:15:43.429 --> 01:15:47.632
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you activate the beacon at the top of the tower, like when you're doing, when you're doing a tower map,

01:15:48.152 --> 01:15:51.293
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to activate the beacon, just you should see what happens.

01:15:51.493 --> 01:16:07.000
[SPEAKER_03]: It zooms to a crazy level and in or out out and it stays zoomed out so you will like this at all if you happen to do it and you just do it as you come across then you still want to go clear the rest of your map.

01:16:07.440 --> 01:16:12.802
[SPEAKER_03]: As you run away from the beacon it will stay zoomed out but it almost has like a circle and

01:16:15.003 --> 01:16:16.204
[SPEAKER_03]: where it will zoom back out.

01:16:16.264 --> 01:16:22.629
[SPEAKER_03]: So as you run away from it, once you pass that circle, it'll do this like zoom back into your person, which is a little bit daunting first, right?

01:16:22.709 --> 01:16:23.890
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not, it's not very smooth on.

01:16:24.330 --> 01:16:33.196
[SPEAKER_03]: But if you, if you just so happen, because you love to follow the right, that if the right, the land may be fit into that circle of where that beacon was awesome.

01:16:33.256 --> 01:16:36.379
[SPEAKER_03]: It assumes back out and you're fighting mobs like,

01:16:37.139 --> 01:16:39.780
[SPEAKER_03]: four or five times zoomed back.

01:16:40.401 --> 01:16:48.765
[SPEAKER_01]: So I need a waterproof keyboard then that's what you're saying, right until you zoom back in and you puke because the right, yeah, it's interesting.

01:16:48.785 --> 01:16:52.666
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I see I got excited when I saw the magnified glass and I read the description.

01:16:54.087 --> 01:16:54.307
[SPEAKER_01]: What?

01:16:54.367 --> 01:16:55.468
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like changing the angle.

01:16:55.508 --> 01:16:57.109
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, oh, zoom again.

01:16:57.349 --> 01:17:00.030
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like quickly like going through the rest of the options.

01:17:00.070 --> 01:17:14.578
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe there was like a zoom out, you know, like the default was in the middle and I was like, so I was a little disappointed there because obviously I'm not going to zoom in in the game like this, but you imagine if they added that both I would tell like just like as a just if you can find it, but if you find it don't tell people.

01:17:15.198 --> 01:17:20.059
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, in past one, where they zoom out for either when you're going on the way to Ketava, right?

01:17:20.099 --> 01:17:26.281
[SPEAKER_01]: Going on the way to Ketava is going into the eye when you're using the eyes to enter the, that's right, the building.

01:17:26.521 --> 01:17:26.681
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

01:17:27.341 --> 01:17:29.682
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah, that's the zoom out level I want for everything.

01:17:30.122 --> 01:17:30.422
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything.

01:17:31.122 --> 01:17:31.762
[SPEAKER_01]: Be so different.

01:17:31.842 --> 01:17:33.263
[SPEAKER_03]: Some spots in POE 2, too.

01:17:33.343 --> 01:17:41.505
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, when you go to the Titan area, when you're in the Titan area, when you go to activate the three different things as well as the main zone, it zooms out a bit.

01:17:42.325 --> 01:17:43.085
[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't stay like that.

01:17:44.522 --> 01:17:44.722
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway.

01:17:45.143 --> 01:17:48.286
[SPEAKER_01]: I have been having fun with my minions.

01:17:49.166 --> 01:17:50.828
[SPEAKER_01]: It's nice to stay alive.

01:17:51.308 --> 01:17:52.810
[SPEAKER_01]: It's nice to do damage.

01:17:52.990 --> 01:18:01.378
[SPEAKER_01]: It's nice to not be an idiot for not playing minions a specific way, but that the archetype is actually playable.

01:18:01.898 --> 01:18:02.419
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:18:02.439 --> 01:18:03.460
[SPEAKER_01]: And just in a default way.

01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:31.150
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, I mean, not having to know the ins and outs are use a specific skill combined with this skill to make it work like it's just it's nice to see posts like hey yeah like I'm What was it pop a crap I saw using frostmages just whole bunch of them Camille messages tweets about using just a whole bunch of snipers awesome right I see a value in minion instability and the the arsonists have been doing great like it's just nice to see it all

01:18:31.930 --> 01:18:47.136
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously those are only a few, but that wasn't possible before you weren't seeing those messages before I'll look at all the cool different minion options I've been doing and so it's been nice for me to be able to play and play around and test stuff because before when things sucked you can't you know

01:18:47.636 --> 01:18:49.337
[SPEAKER_01]: You're trying things out, but everything sucks.

01:18:49.517 --> 01:18:52.379
[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's like, okay, now I can tell which one's better or not.

01:18:52.719 --> 01:18:57.703
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's actually a really nice parody between the three elemental skeletons that I'm playing.

01:18:57.743 --> 01:19:06.028
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've been having a lot of time fun, like, making changes, playing, trying something out, testing on this rare and then testing on that rare.

01:19:06.168 --> 01:19:12.372
[SPEAKER_01]: And unfortunately, I was reminded that soul leader exists, and it can exist on the worst of base types in a bus.

01:19:12.913 --> 01:19:15.014
[SPEAKER_01]: But something different though, I think, isn't it?

01:19:15.454 --> 01:19:16.295
[SPEAKER_01]: All the... No, soul leader.

01:19:16.535 --> 01:19:18.957
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the abyss one has sole leaders, so unless they accidentally do.

01:19:18.997 --> 01:19:21.079
[SPEAKER_03]: That's called sole siphoner now or something.

01:19:21.319 --> 01:19:22.720
[SPEAKER_03]: Same idea, but yeah.

01:19:23.281 --> 01:19:32.168
[SPEAKER_01]: But one thing that I found with all the different ideas that I'm coming up with, by the by act for, I'm because it takes so long on like a first playthrough.

01:19:33.309 --> 01:19:33.930
[SPEAKER_01]: to go through.

01:19:33.950 --> 01:19:37.372
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm almost bored of my build idea by the end of act four.

01:19:37.993 --> 01:19:43.237
[SPEAKER_01]: And I actually don't like, I'm like, okay, I've seen if it works or not, that's neat, like I've scratched the itch.

01:19:43.998 --> 01:19:49.062
[SPEAKER_01]: And all of a sudden, I want to play a different build, and I'm not even at endgame yet.

01:19:50.423 --> 01:19:53.844
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and I've found like, I'm the kind of person that I can play a build for a long time.

01:19:53.924 --> 01:19:55.984
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't surprise your fear in a long time.

01:19:56.104 --> 01:20:02.686
[SPEAKER_01]: So if I'm like, to me, when I was thinking about that, I took a step back and I was thinking about it for a little bit.

01:20:02.706 --> 01:20:05.347
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I think that's a long campaign problem.

01:20:05.927 --> 01:20:07.807
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're certainly going to be a part of it.

01:20:07.887 --> 01:20:11.448
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they get this situation, but, you know, long campaigns don't help that.

01:20:12.188 --> 01:20:12.328
[SPEAKER_03]: No.

01:20:12.909 --> 01:20:13.089
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

01:20:13.689 --> 01:20:17.873
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the difference for me is not bored of the build, but bored of the game.

01:20:17.893 --> 01:20:23.137
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm actually still at 92, and there was excitement for me to get to 93, because of one skill point.

01:20:23.177 --> 01:20:25.398
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I was like, oh, that'll actually be fun to try.

01:20:26.299 --> 01:20:30.863
[SPEAKER_03]: For me, it's the game side of it, but I do understand the idea of being like, okay, I've kind of tried this now.

01:20:31.463 --> 01:20:31.723
[SPEAKER_03]: At you.

01:20:32.144 --> 01:20:32.524
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, what?

01:20:32.984 --> 01:20:36.787
[SPEAKER_03]: I, we're like, are you, you have finished all three interludes or still working through them?

01:20:36.827 --> 01:20:38.268
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm on the second interlude now.

01:20:41.911 --> 01:20:43.413
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm really enjoying.

01:20:43.453 --> 01:20:46.956
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still doing curses the first and probably only to ascendancies.

01:20:46.996 --> 01:20:50.739
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll do it or the curses for the lich.

01:20:50.859 --> 01:20:52.701
[SPEAKER_01]: So I have infinite curses duration.

01:20:52.721 --> 01:20:53.121
[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.

01:20:53.522 --> 01:20:54.142
[SPEAKER_01]: That's unreal.

01:20:54.363 --> 01:20:59.307
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, it is so unbelievably rad to just curse something and it's forever.

01:20:59.447 --> 01:21:01.249
[SPEAKER_01]: I can imagine for the entire fight.

01:21:01.589 --> 01:21:04.912
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm solving elemental weakness and it's exhausting.

01:21:04.952 --> 01:21:05.473
[SPEAKER_03]: Keeping it up.

01:21:05.953 --> 01:21:10.918
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and so I have a whispers of doom, right, or no, the keystone.

01:21:10.938 --> 01:21:15.001
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever the keystone is, it gives me the extra one, but doubles the activation time.

01:21:15.742 --> 01:21:17.964
[SPEAKER_01]: And then as the litch, the second ascension gives me one.

01:21:17.984 --> 01:21:21.047
[SPEAKER_01]: So I have three, and I have in feeble temporal chains and elemental weakness.

01:21:21.687 --> 01:21:32.436
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just, like, I don't, I'm not someone that wants to have all these skills, but if all I have to do for my build is, like, my skill set up is, okay, curse this boss three times.

01:21:33.137 --> 01:21:37.680
[SPEAKER_01]: And then now I, I have one button and then dodge for the rest of the boss fight, I love it.

01:21:38.261 --> 01:21:40.483
[SPEAKER_01]: Because now I'm getting to learn the boss really well.

01:21:41.203 --> 01:21:42.304
[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's been a lot of fun.

01:21:42.364 --> 01:21:46.087
[SPEAKER_01]: I only have, when I'm leveling, I only cast one curse.

01:21:46.147 --> 01:21:48.710
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've decided to make that temporal change and I put hex blue on it.

01:21:49.230 --> 01:21:52.593
[SPEAKER_01]: So I cast it and then just spreads and spreads and spreads and spreads and that's really nice.

01:21:53.494 --> 01:21:55.676
[SPEAKER_03]: But I've been using the iteration spread with it.

01:21:56.116 --> 01:21:56.656
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess I would.

01:21:56.696 --> 01:21:58.578
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's just in your viewers and it's cool.

01:21:58.678 --> 01:22:03.402
[SPEAKER_01]: And one thing that I actually really want to compliment GGG on if they, if they listen to the end of this, is

01:22:05.784 --> 01:22:13.831
[SPEAKER_01]: In the past, versus, and this was relevant in Path of Excel one, like you think of the Scorpion fight in Act 8 or 9 or whatever it was.

01:22:14.471 --> 01:22:16.633
[SPEAKER_01]: And it goes underground a lot, and it comes back up.

01:22:16.813 --> 01:22:19.316
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of its buffs would be gone when it comes back up.

01:22:20.116 --> 01:22:25.020
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes because they expired, but also, sometimes it would just be like going underground erased.

01:22:25.561 --> 01:22:26.582
[SPEAKER_01]: Any debuffs that were on it?

01:22:27.702 --> 01:22:28.263
[SPEAKER_01]: it doesn't do that.

01:22:28.463 --> 01:22:37.027
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't come across one boss where doing its funky little dance, going underground, water, whatever it is, it's never erased.

01:22:37.687 --> 01:22:39.848
[SPEAKER_01]: There are so many bosses.

01:22:39.948 --> 01:22:45.651
[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny because now that I'm like watching for that, making sure infinite is infinite.

01:22:46.151 --> 01:22:52.794
[SPEAKER_01]: It's amazing how many bosses I realized actually have downtime and like they're dancing in the sky or they're swimming

01:22:56.856 --> 01:23:00.319
[SPEAKER_01]: a lot of bosses disappear for a bit, but they all all worked fine.

01:23:00.899 --> 01:23:02.020
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll work fine, so it was good.

01:23:02.400 --> 01:23:04.782
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, a lot of their dissension if you were going to do it.

01:23:05.423 --> 01:23:15.290
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm debating between that because there's a thing now where GGGs hasn't really done anything about tagging support gems that do damage.

01:23:15.931 --> 01:23:22.616
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, like they have their tags, but they're still it's pretty ambiguous as to which support, like when you're highlighting a support

01:23:25.718 --> 01:23:30.321
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't, so it now currently shows all the skill gems that that works for.

01:23:30.921 --> 01:23:39.726
[SPEAKER_01]: When it comes to minions, it doesn't say if it works specifically for the default skill of the minion or the command skill, which do have separate tags.

01:23:40.346 --> 01:23:44.649
[SPEAKER_01]: But then there's also, if now if I've added something like minion instability or infernal

01:23:50.892 --> 01:23:53.554
[SPEAKER_01]: So some are obvious, some tags are obvious, but others are not.

01:23:53.954 --> 01:24:00.599
[SPEAKER_01]: For example, the hit description in the game says anything that isn't damage over time is considered to hit.

01:24:01.220 --> 01:24:05.483
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, minion instabilities about the explosion when a minion reaches low life, right?

01:24:05.503 --> 01:24:06.824
[SPEAKER_01]: There's an explosion of fire.

01:24:07.344 --> 01:24:12.488
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, explosion doesn't have something that you can highlight in the gem description, right?

01:24:12.508 --> 01:24:14.870
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't hit push down the right stick and then get a definition

01:24:18.673 --> 01:24:21.014
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's nothing in the game that tells me that it does or doesn't.

01:24:21.614 --> 01:24:29.316
[SPEAKER_01]: Fire pen is available for my skill, but that could be for the command, that could be for the default attack, that could be for minion instability.

01:24:29.856 --> 01:24:34.537
[SPEAKER_01]: But fire pen does not work on Ignite, but I have infernal Legion there too.

01:24:34.737 --> 01:24:35.257
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:24:35.297 --> 01:24:37.918
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's just that aspect is missing in the game.

01:24:39.698 --> 01:24:47.482
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if going the unholy might route for the Litch would be valuable for a minion instability build.

01:24:48.062 --> 01:24:50.383
[SPEAKER_01]: I assume yes, but I don't know.

01:24:50.703 --> 01:24:50.923
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:24:51.743 --> 01:24:51.964
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:24:52.424 --> 01:24:59.147
[SPEAKER_01]: Minions like having unholy might 33% of all damage types counting his chaos damage would be awesome.

01:24:59.847 --> 01:25:16.020
[SPEAKER_01]: So one thing that I've been bouncing back and forth between is investment into like maxing out, minion survivability and curses, or cutting back on that a bit, and then going into like full energy shield with just minion instability.

01:25:16.660 --> 01:25:20.782
[SPEAKER_01]: Minion instability requires a lot less nodes because you don't have to worry about minion survivability.

01:25:21.282 --> 01:25:30.167
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas if I'm switching over to having something like arsonist, like persistent minion staying persistent in the live, that eats up a lot more investment.

01:25:30.347 --> 01:25:41.492
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've been bouncing back and forth between accommodating persistent minions or if I go to just minion stability, then I can have both strong curses, minions stability,

01:25:42.045 --> 01:25:44.487
[SPEAKER_01]: but then also the addition of a decent amount of energy shield.

01:25:45.087 --> 01:25:51.112
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've been bouncing around between all of that, but with the LITCH, of course, this is all to answer your question.

01:25:51.693 --> 01:25:55.476
[SPEAKER_01]: Do I go for the extra damage that I assume, but don't know for sure would work?

01:25:55.976 --> 01:25:57.277
[SPEAKER_01]: Or do I go with the energy shield row?

01:25:57.818 --> 01:25:59.139
[SPEAKER_01]: Right now I'm on the curse route.

01:25:59.659 --> 01:26:04.363
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll probably go with the energy shield row, but I'm also probably never going to level a send again.

01:26:05.050 --> 01:26:07.911
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't want to do two floors three.

01:26:08.471 --> 01:26:09.451
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, I have to do three.

01:26:09.611 --> 01:26:12.392
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't come do it when I get to that point We can do it together.

01:26:12.552 --> 01:26:15.733
[SPEAKER_03]: I have all the I'm gonna relics I have all the relics.

01:26:15.753 --> 01:26:17.374
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't I think they apply to me.

01:26:17.654 --> 01:26:18.994
[SPEAKER_03]: They do cuz you're in my run.

01:26:19.274 --> 01:26:19.955
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, okay.

01:26:19.995 --> 01:26:29.518
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean we share honor Like if honor runs out for one of us it runs out for both, but we'd be fine Well, they it'll be so much fun three floors of just joy

01:26:31.452 --> 01:26:32.853
[SPEAKER_01]: It trials would seem better.

01:26:32.873 --> 01:26:39.358
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if I want to send for another time in trials, you have to do three bosses, right?

01:26:39.758 --> 01:26:45.002
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, you're talking 2nd or you're talking, so 2nd or it's 3-4s for the third session.

01:26:45.303 --> 01:26:45.503
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:26:46.263 --> 01:26:51.607
[SPEAKER_01]: Even if I've done 1 and 1, like 1 floor and then 1 trial, I send both ways.

01:26:51.888 --> 01:26:52.228
[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.

01:26:52.248 --> 01:26:53.028
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:26:54.109 --> 01:26:59.331
[SPEAKER_01]: So if I wanted to level through the trials of chaos, that means I would have to do three bosses to get my third essentially.

01:26:59.351 --> 01:27:14.817
[SPEAKER_03]: So the worst part about the temple of chaos, which is the one where you have to do all the challenges or whatever, is that I have not seen one that is the same representation for your third ascendancy.

01:27:15.417 --> 01:27:19.280
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's not one where it's like, oh, do seven rooms or oh, do 10.

01:27:19.420 --> 01:27:25.784
[SPEAKER_03]: I, that you can do the, the full tier one, but otherwise, yeah, you have to do trial a second.

01:27:25.824 --> 01:27:27.505
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how to do it through Temple of Chaos.

01:27:28.086 --> 01:27:29.266
[SPEAKER_03]: Trial a second is easy though.

01:27:29.306 --> 01:27:38.493
[SPEAKER_03]: Once you have the, the things, it's annoying because it's still three floors and you're hoping you don't get a terrible role into a room, but they're usually pretty easy to manage.

01:27:39.093 --> 01:27:47.416
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how you do it through Temple of Chaos because there's none that drop that are at your level that will say that they will give you your ascendancy point.

01:27:47.436 --> 01:27:49.237
[SPEAKER_03]: So it was driving crazy that I couldn't find it.

01:27:49.517 --> 01:27:54.999
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I ended up having to do Temple of Sechema on a, um, a fucking thorns character.

01:27:55.579 --> 01:28:00.941
[SPEAKER_03]: I did three floors as a character that needs to take damage to do damage.

01:28:01.522 --> 01:28:02.222
[SPEAKER_03]: It was awesome.

01:28:02.902 --> 01:28:08.029
[SPEAKER_03]: I did it though, and the only reason I was able to do it was because of those relics and blocking.

01:28:08.510 --> 01:28:13.717
[SPEAKER_03]: So if I can do it on a character that needs to take damage to do damage, you and I can do it just fine.

01:28:14.278 --> 01:28:16.361
[SPEAKER_03]: And way faster, because it probably took me an hour.

01:28:17.542 --> 01:28:20.144
[SPEAKER_01]: Why do those things that let you do?

01:28:20.604 --> 01:28:23.946
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess, I guess it makes sense because you could just do them for fun.

01:28:24.306 --> 01:28:27.869
[SPEAKER_01]: Which, I guess, isn't something that ever crossed my mind.

01:28:27.889 --> 01:28:41.278
[SPEAKER_01]: I was gonna ask why these tokens that allow you to, right, why I could do, why does this drop for the Charles of Sechema when I have one that's like infinite until I level the first time and same with the Charles of Chaos.

01:28:41.878 --> 01:28:49.962
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was going to just drop when they're not going to help me ascend before they're at a night and level that'll let me ascend and only when I was asking the question, I'm like, Oh, right.

01:28:50.002 --> 01:28:54.084
[SPEAKER_01]: There's people, have some absolute losers out there that find it fun.

01:28:54.124 --> 01:28:54.464
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry.

01:28:54.484 --> 01:28:56.946
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't actually think you're losing individual.

01:28:56.966 --> 01:28:57.526
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh.

01:28:57.646 --> 01:28:59.967
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, fun, fun.

01:29:00.147 --> 01:29:01.588
[SPEAKER_03]: Strap us up forever, Excel.

01:29:01.608 --> 01:29:03.309
[SPEAKER_03]: 310, just naked takes.

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