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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to Forever Exiled, I'm just an Ikatex and I'm Tyler Recker of Days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so 326 did that all by myself of our podcast together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: January 2nd, Happy New Year to everybody, Happy New Year Tyler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Happy New Year, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Friend, big shout out to our patrons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, Charles for signing up this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody else who resubbed up with our faces, patreon, get to access to afterdarkers, our podcasts after the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We keep talking about stuff and things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we appreciate your support.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So thank you very much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm telling you about my week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to like leave the channel and come back in?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's working fine for me, so I can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's it doing for you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you're really delayed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can do it too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Continue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Excellent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And uh, but no thanks to Discord.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was really dope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had a whole bunch of nice things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we had new years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And thank you very much for having a whole bunch of people over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was really nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And uh, had a bit of a lot of other rings, Marathon, the other day, which was a little watched the first two tried to get through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were all like old men fall in a sleep during it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'd all seen it a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so or a couple times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not sure how many times they've seen the extended additional.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There seems to be a lot of you seen Ryan Chris and I.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's simply these scenes they hadn't seen before or could remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who else is an on-extended version?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, funny enough, I saw that the extended version was available on YouTube for half price to buy and I'm like, man, like I got the DVDs and I, like, I actually bought them on the, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Extended editions on Xbox ages ago, but I hate watching stuff on Xbox with controllers and stuff that they don't sure It doesn't I don't know it's dumb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, okay, sweet they're on sale So I go and I buy the first one it's half off and I go to buy the second one the two towers and Return to the king extended editions aren't available now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just first on a suck you in but that there's nothing Like I actually can't buy the other two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not that they're not on sale.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not there

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, there's comments going back quite a ways that they're unavailable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Could be something to do with the re-release of both extended editions coming to theaters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a nice idea?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a nice idea?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a nice idea?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a nice idea?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a nice idea?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a nice idea?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that an anniversary thing to everybody?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can watch them again in the theater.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the extended editions though because when the first came out there you couldn't have the extended editions right that's why they had the theatrical and so anyway so hopefully it's something to do with that because I'd sure like to pick up the other two but anyway yeah no we've had we've had a really good week it's just been that nice week with the kids where you just chill in it's like the post Christmas week right for the Christmas break and just trying to chill as

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I saw you get recognized with a POE shirt at my place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was laughing on the couch and so I was like, I played that game and I was like, oh my god, someone just noticed Tyler's a POE shirt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is someone who's not like, oh, I'm sure they don't know that I'm a podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they're the boyfriend of one of Christina's really good friends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know them well, but that's not a conversation topic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I recognize you're very kind gift and so then I have the difficult time the deck of cards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so then you tell them like so what's that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like oh, it's just a deck of cards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: any with a really awkward silence for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So listeners, Justin and Christina and Justin gave me a deck of cards with the same art that we used for the Christmas cards for our patrons this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have animated versions of ourselves way better looking versions of ourselves on the back of these cards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And but we don't like to spread around that like in our personal lives that we have a podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: obviously are like there's people that know what we don't want to spread it around and of course if you want to chat a little bit about work or like you know stuff like that you don't want people at work rehearing it or even going back like the five years that we have like what what if we said what if we said we didn't want one person we might have been like this person's never going to hear this and then yeah i mean obviously not wise we shouldn't have said whatever was to begin with that case but

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, just those little things about like one hobby connecting with other sides of personal life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just kind of funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I and I don't know what you've spoken with him about, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's like, nothing cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Deca cards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, thanks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're like, and then like, and I open them up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yeah, no, they're like, yeah, just to deck cards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's dance pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, what's out in the back?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is the picture of us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just some to know, and it was like this awkward little pause.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even remember what I said, but it was, yeah, and then we just kind of like both faded and we're eyes slowly looked up to the conversation that was happening at the table that was something else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, for two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's quite a thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you played at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he plays a large variety of games, but that's the game that he's actually been into lately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So how does your week?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, we did Christmas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did New Year's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I worked between, it was fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did, uh, just hung out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, I worked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We watched the philosopher stone last night with the kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We watched the first Harry Potter because my I want to watch him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We must have, I didn't even know there was an extended version of the philosopher stone because there were scenes both Christina and I were like, what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember that happening?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember these kind of sexual positions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it was the...

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the kids liked it, but yeah, they were seen so they didn't remember it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And... Did it make it better, Justin?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but...

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it changed the story for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I was pretty okay with the story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But my kids, I actually really do like watching through the Harry Potter's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Find them fun, and my kids really like them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then we had a bunch of people over here for New Year's Eve.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a, if you New Year's Eve for me, I was, I, I was not feeling it this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was tired and I had a lot on my mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had a, I felt like I had a hard time getting into it, but it was fun seeing everybody in heaven and everybody over time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a nice to go through it anyway, even if you're not top of your game and even if you're specced you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and retrospect you, you still feel it and see what's nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't drink this year, so it was also, I think a good thing, but I was just always I wanted to go to bed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was nervous to drink because I knew I had to deal with work stuff the next day, and then again, I will have to today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, we have some really cool stuff happening this year for our company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and everything lined up for January one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, so just means, busy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then I played a lot of Path of Exhaust.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did just... Why, too, king it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't a break.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't feel like I got a break.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I usually would try to do a recursionist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it gets time to do stuff and hang out with family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, the setup for path 2 and just how long it takes to do things as you're starting off, like I don't have a fully fleshed out build yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm still working on resist, let alone everything else, right, and figuring things out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm still like 15 minutes, 12, 15 minutes of map.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have the, they actually have one of those map device counters as one of the unlocked MTX.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can use for your map device.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like one of the time clock ones,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right, it's competition I forgot but um, yeah, it's like 12 to 15 minutes, but it's just one of those things where because I have my in laws over You're not limited anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, like everything takes a while in path to so I don't have the time to just like fit this in or fit that in and Play come upstairs and then it's like I'm fighting some sort of mermaid with her tits out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be like, okay, we'll kind of look at parents this guy, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like playing with on the living room TV, like we're fine with that kind of sci-fi stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not purpose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to like if it's also, it's like, just different worlds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a different, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it is, like what do you call like understanding of the circumstances, like how common maybe that is in so many other like things that the kids see that it's not abnormal, but if you're not familiar with the stuff that they see or whatever, I don't know, like it's just it doesn't shut up Justin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would do this anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, explain it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was, you brought up something that I was going to not interrupt you with, but want to make sure I didn't get what I had a conversation with your brother and Ian at your place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And because ever since we went to LA, you and I and

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[SPEAKER_01]: the Uber driver recognized that one of us was where that we were from out of the country because one of us had an accent and the heartbreak for me that it was me that had the accent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But ever since then, I've noticed words that we don't say properly, quote unquote.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And one of them that I've really been noticing all across the board with everybody yourself, my wife, me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't say four like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: the car forward, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't say four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We say for like FU are the car forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What did me when you said forward?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Forward or D?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we don't say we you say forward, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when we say the word for F O R we say for F U R all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was hilarious because obviously we don't

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[SPEAKER_01]: somebody else shattered my heart and told me that I did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then so then I've been noticing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Aaron and I, we joke about it now all the different things that we didn't realize.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're strong Canadianisms.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then so I was talking to Ian and Nathan, who of course didn't accept that they had accents, but for the rest of the night they were

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[SPEAKER_01]: the war and well now it though it's just on my brain all the time I have to find out what other words we say that makes us sound Canadian or yes smart or like you just have accent so if any listeners

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[SPEAKER_01]: that ever go through effort of commenting on discord, YouTube, or ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If there's certain words that just like, oh, you know, I doesn't have to be bad, but just they stand out as accenty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let us know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it does not have to be bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, yeah, that was a good week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to twenty twenty six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rollin' into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do we got this afternoon?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it was just a lot of hot fixes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Camille's music was featured, which is really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The trailer music to Path came home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or was was was focused on on on on on their social media.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's awesome always happy form what it happens because the music's really good in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's always fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like it's it's no joke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Still half the time my kids are in the shower.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're playing path of excel to music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's on the Google on the bathroom speaker for cool music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I was just off-axis little things, but just to the smaller, I mean, still bigger big deals when you're in these circumstances, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's really frustrating to deal with, but they're getting a lot smaller now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some curious how what's it been three weeks since the league came out?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, I think we'd be hit in just about three weeks now, but I'm slowing down on less something, unless there's like a major change they're doing to the actual vowel mechanic and league on its own things are really slowing down now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also potentially slowing down just because they took care of what really needed to be during the break because like that those four classics that we're talking about came out between Christmas and New Year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're I think they are potentially smaller because they're just more focused on like what's actually needing to be fixed right away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The head of the the one I was joking about with you when you came into my place was the Huffick Swall, which was to temporarily disable Houghton.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fowlbe can's generating crystals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That one that one affected me a little bit, but that's my own fault.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm fine with it, but we can talk about that when we talk about our weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think it's cool that they're actually, you know, they're doing stuff through the break.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe we'll see some bigger stuff if they need to be done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you get your mystery box or did you forget your Christmas mystery box?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, I mean, you did it on to stay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or on in when we were recording.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did, yeah, we did on box.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do we do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were recording on box.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And did I think I got a portal effect or like a time keeper portal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And something we went on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, right, right, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I got a map device.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right, right, right, and we're going through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and then, but then on the website, that map device didn't look anything like the map device that I got, but that was the map device that I got.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, that thing looks crazy on the website.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I go back into the game later on and I turn it on and I'm

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even think of going through the variations of the map device.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just, for some reason, I assume because I'm used to like the other map devices I have are kind of like the flower blooming one and it doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's it's not a very variation as far as I remember it's just it gets more epic the higher tier map you put into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so for some reason I didn't think of variations the time one that I was using it has very, oh no

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that one had variations, I think the different colors it could be were based on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh no, that does have a variation, I just can't tell what it is, but I mean, this variation for the one that I have, it goes from like a small circle, which the normal map devices to this massive oval.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we looked at that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We looked at that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We looked at that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We looked at that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We looked at that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We looked at that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We looked at that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We looked at that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We looked at that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We looked at that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We looked at that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We looked at that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We looked at that one.

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[UNKNOWN]: We

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[SPEAKER_01]: the twice as big as the massive one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the one that was in power was just a medium.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was funny because what you're saying now makes it even funnier the conversation we had like a week ago because we were going through them and you had seen the one that I got and you were telling me the one that you guys I was like, oh, like crap, you're just so cool and you were like, I even remember you being like, ah, it's not the one that you didn't learn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just just the small version.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, it's so lit like the small version.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was huge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I love it because like you can plan your whole like it can be your I do it's not even like a no, yeah, it's not a circle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually like an oval It's like a football field man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's American football field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, yes, so but but the small one It was it's actually tedious because you know how it's like I like to line up the map the section of the map device where you

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[SPEAKER_01]: Technically, your character physically goes to interact with the map device.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some map devices don't have that, but others do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I always like to spin the map device around so that the lines up with your values or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like just back and forth quick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well,

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're on the small version of my math device.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's just a small path, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That you can walk on, otherwise, the rest of it is blocked off by the river or the pooling, can you stop?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, go ahead, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, all I'm saying is there's a very narrow path for you to,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Walk on to interact with your map device.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you don't have it lined up, it was kind of a pain a little bit with the analog because you don't just On mouse, you probably just click on in your character does whatever you need to get there, but on analog you're like that excuse me pardon me Need to wait for the left turn signal to enter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why when you were like tired like your suspect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like well

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to make it work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to be thankful because you don't get it for free, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like who's to complain about that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I, of course, go through the motions of realizing there's variations and I'm like, Oh, crap.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is the biggest sense of ever seeing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you walk in between the portals on the top and the portals on the bottom?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you actually walk in that space in between?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't because it looked like it can, but the thing is, is it was too big?

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[SPEAKER_01]: to try.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually needed to, I need to load up a different hideout and clear everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no joke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No joke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I also like how they start off with the path of XL1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like the default layouts of any of the stuff, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like where they had things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'd always rearrange things to be a little bit more, I don't know, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure shouldn't for map to map day-to-day kind of stuff not just clear when aesthetic whereas in path two I load it up and I'm like I was actually this great awesome so I don't want to like load up a a default layout and then just clear move everybody move it and I go

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[SPEAKER_01]: put my, like, I don't know, like a sci-fi show or something where I just pick up a building and plot it right in the middle of somebody's really nice town that they have and interrupt out all like a life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's really cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just curious if you could walk in that middle spot because you could almost put your stash and a person to sell like in that in between part for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it'll be really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, thank you GGG for the free empty access.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I haven't used mine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot about it until we said talking about nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I never remember to change my map device.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think often I change it to the one that just is a single portal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have like this valve one that does one single portal and it's just small so it's nice and condensed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe a little living space.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all you played lots though, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's let's try about a what'd you would you do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I, I was playing my druid, my, uh...

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[SPEAKER_00]: freezing, pouncing, very fun, active, druid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I got the druid to 90 or 91.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was at a point where I was like, I don't know what I want to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do I want to, am I still playing like what's the reason I'm playing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I was trying to figure out the temple.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I, so I have a very, well, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have an understanding now of the temple.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I have to say, I'm so frustrated with

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[SPEAKER_00]: their lack of help and instruction, like I really had to, I watched YouTube videos, multiple YouTube videos, to try and one of them was 50 something minutes long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I should find out who it was, uh, Milky B. K. It was a 27-minute video.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I watched the whole thing to try and understand, like, I don't, they don't give you a whole lot of information and understand you which ones go with which.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a GGG.

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[SPEAKER_00]: GGG being yeah, grand year games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had joked about it before he came out that I was like, oh, it's going to be like harvest, like hopefully it's not like harvest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is harvest like 2.0, but way harder to understand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in the way that you need to optimize setting it up and running it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I was also laughing while I was running it because while you're running it, it's like heist 2.0 in the sense that you can walk through a door and just get shocked and to hell if you're not careful, but once I got a good understanding of how the temple works and how you can set it up, it was a fun idea in my head to like, okay, maybe I could try this out, maybe the temple's actually kind of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody, the video that I watched of this guy doing it, it looked like it was quite interesting because you can scale the difficulty of the temple.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually to have harder and more rewarding stuff than mapping how to tier 15.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But people had, I'd also read in there that there was this thing where you could, if you weren't high enough level in a newer character, Holtton in the interludes could be used to just build the temple for when you get into endgame.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could basically

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[SPEAKER_00]: use the fact that at Holden, the little valve crystallized place was like right at the waypoint, so you could just continuously reset the zone and just build your temple that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now that is cheesy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that you're not, it was pretty obvious that they would probably patch it, but I had thought in my head like, well, I wanted to try out the new sorceress.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the new

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see how bad it is to see how bad the loving was and so we recorded on Friday I think I served on the Saturday and making the sorceress So I played the I played the sort of sorceress this week and got the sorceress up and then I got to the Holden zone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, all right, sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can start building my temple Logins like hey can I use the computer tonight to play for a bit?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I don't want to listen to him playing for name with his friends plus I wanted to go watch him TV with Christina so I turn the game off a hold.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna go tomorrow and

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[SPEAKER_00]: the next morning they patched it so that that area doesn't give crystals anymore which is fine it's fine because I think as much as I wanted to do it it probably would have boarded me out of the game pretty quick because you're just constantly resetting that one zone you're not actually playing the game so I probably would have gotten bored of it and I was actually quite enjoying the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, anyway, I didn't get to benefit from this like building of the temple, so I'm doing it just by playing and I have a lot of the Can't remember what the tablet was called.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just use them willingly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I was playing my druid, but never actually took advantage of it But you can use this unique tablet when you do a tower and it will make all of the circles around it You can go to them without being connected so you can play any is any whatever and it's really easy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It helps a lot when you're trying to build up the temple.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been doing that in leveling the sorceress, and it's actually been pretty fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the axe 1 through 4 plus inch of the wood, hate it, don't like it, wasn't fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, so you have been quite vocal about how much you hate the idea of rerolling a character that's not the original class that you did because you have to start fresh, and the amount of time it takes to go through the campaign.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and not just that, but maybe set your character up to who knows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what was that like this score around?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, you were excited enough to try this idea that you did that despite knowing ahead of time how tedious it's been for you in the past.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what was it like this score?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's still sucked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was basically just I needed to play to shut my brain off

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to try the temple thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really wanted to try the sorceress thing, and uh, but the process was sucked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was funny actually because I got to the end of act three and for some reason in my brain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, finally I'm here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can blow up a blood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I was like, oh my god, I still have act four and I can't, I don't know why I had forgotten that I still had all that to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's, I mean, A3 is just way, way, way too long, way too long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like Act 1 and 2 are reason why I can get through them pretty quick and they're not too bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Act 3 is just, even Act 4 is pretty decent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just Act 3 is so long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It takes up the massive mass of chunk of my time to go through it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The interludes are fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't take long at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was your memory with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still not at a place where I can remember like, okay, this way point is in the middle of this section of act one as opposed to on the edge, you know, like next to something or if I go into this area, the way points are if I go into this area, you know, the way points not there yet because it's actually over here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My memory is not there yet, and then I remember when we were in Seattle, Jonathan had a comment about possibility of act for randomizing itself every league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe like every, like whatever rewards, even like maybe act one rewards for like who gives you what permanent resists or points work to change.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's even the case enact for, whether it's going to be there who knows, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that aside I can't remember the or I've only done act four twice or three times and I don't remember the or the the most efficient order for doing act four are you relatively not just act four but all four acts do you kind of have that system down yet maybe not as good as path one but on the way where you can remember oh yeah this this section's in the middle oh this one like I know the kind of area to look for for this and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do act one to three I do act four once I get into the zones I start to understand them but I haven't gotten to the point yet in act four where I remember which ones I should do and shouldn't do but I mean they have done a decent job at least of when I open the quest the window the you know where you see the map

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[SPEAKER_00]: At least at a quick glance, you can see which ones you've completed for the plus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish that it told you what the plus was going to give so that you knew for sure that you had done whatever that was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I know one through three are fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I can I understand where I'm going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just they're so long to get through them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and then I did my first two ascendancies for the verash, or whatever it's called.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I did the first two, and then I just paid again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I paid what did I do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just joined somebody for the fourth ascendancy, which gave me three and four, which I don't like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really, really don't like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got both ascendancies in one run, or you just did you do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you do the fourth, if you do the whatever, whatever when you do

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really cool if a sending was fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be so cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Imagine being able to do that in past one, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just like, I don't really need it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm flying along.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no reason to slow myself down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You get that first trial to drop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're like, sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That means we'll go try it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And imagine doing, hey, good morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, good morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice to see you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be absolutely amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Imagine that in path one, just getting that one drop or you have it safe from another character and you're just going, all the way to once.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which I think is a really good thing that they've done, but I would rather, I would rather feel like I'm doing it, but I don't care.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, well, I'm not going to punish myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to actually play the character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a divine, I'll pay a divine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they, if that's what I have to pay to get it done, then I would rather just pay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And get it done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sad, though, like, isn't that kind of, I mean, sure we're talking personal preferences.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the kind of gameplay we like, or what we like doing with our characters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but you and I have been on the same page for a long time about how unfun ascending is currently in path to, and I don't know, hopefully it's something that they're willing to change or accommodate at some point because, like I was thinking about that with the whole val thing today, like you were talking about, you know, you, you like completely making a character for the whole val element of the game, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously it's the newest mechanic, really fun to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but their leagues are coming out with just this one like this is going to be the league for this content.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is breach.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the Val content and you know this is how you ascend and so they have two out of the three different trials showing up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if they're giving themselves time to change it, if they don't like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for example, the trials of Sechema hasn't changed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been balanced, but trials of Sechema has stayed, trials of Sechema, same with the trials of Chaos or whatever that's called, that hasn't changed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've balanced it, and some of those balanced changes are big, but at the end of the day, what it is and what it's going to do, the RNGS specs, all that kind of stuff, that's not changing, like they haven't actually changed what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: whether that's a willingness, whether it's a time thing, the amount of investment who knows, but now we have breach, that's come out and now we have Val that's come out and it's just one of those things where it's like they're introducing it as is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Make sense, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got you put a lot of time and of figuring out all these questions for yourself and making some tough choices and committing to it and then balancing other things around it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it makes sense, but it's just

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not for me yet, you know what I mean breaches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like breach keeps me in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have to keep bringing up my map to check stuff and look around and all this, like breach really suits me right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Abyss would if they followed, like there's some balance things that still need to happen there, but I'd like a bist too, but I'm not a big fan of Val, so there's a part of me where I like I think of this as it's happening in like all men.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of like just for me and my personal taste, not saying it's done poorly, it's just I don't like it, so I'm just like a whole man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: hope they're willing to change some of these big core things depending on how it goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, lots of still to come out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious how many core mechanics they have yet to introduce for the release.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm curious which ones from past one, they're like, these need to be ready for when we go from beta into the actual official game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I could burp right now just like the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back, and that's a welcome back, Val, mechanics thing I was going to use.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a mechanic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to ask you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a make.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's what it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember what the mechanic was, but there was a mechanic and purely one where they made it where you could.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Store up Sort of charges and then run them all at once.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was sure to remember what that mechanic was in Puy one where There was you had experience it you would encounter in maps, but then you would just sort of Store through run as much as we can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What was anyway?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could do that with the valve tempo, which is cool, but like a delve kind of Yeah, just it's like a delve.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a bar

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a specific mechanic where it was, you would build up a run, and they, they've done that with the valtemple, but the problem is you have to run the valtemple quite a few times, run the architect quite a few times to get the medallion upgrades how many crystals you can hold.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To the point where you could have 60 crystals, so you could do 10 runs at once, which is awesome, because then you can do the temple, 10, you can sort of do it in maps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You never have to go into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just can, you know, clear the space, unlock the crystals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when you have 60 crystals, you can go do 10 temp runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's actually kind of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But to get to 60 restored crystals, being able to store 60 crystals, you have to progress the temple in a way that is

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[SPEAKER_00]: sort of optimal way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of weird because the, you know, the temple has the, uh, at zero.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How this all started was, you know, at zeroes at the top, right, or whatever, middle right at the top.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you have to get there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I had built a room that I thought would connect, didn't connect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now I had this room blocking it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what started me getting frustrated with the temple and then looking into the options and talking to people and discord and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's kind of funny that the optimal way to run the temple is actually to ignore its theory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're blocking it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, because she's useless, where you can build all this power into the temple and loot into the temple, but your best way to do that is to ignore the actual final mechanic of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the temple, which is the interior.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if that's what they meant to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think the temple idea is cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really excited.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what's kept me playing right now as this idea of like, I'd like to try and make this optimal temple that I've seen people talking about online and see how, you know, what that's like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but it is also a little bit frustrating that I could not have figured out 60% of what I've learned without going online or having spent, I just don't have the hours to test all of those different things out that these people have been able to test out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, sure, I don't think that that's a fair thing for the average player to have to be able to do in order to understand the

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[SPEAKER_00]: fully understand what this temple can be or you can do with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when it goes core, what's the point of the Val side area?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are people doing the Val side area?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the about, so the about temple though, like the benefit is that you can, you can get a ton a ton of loot in there because of the way that the rooms all work and the way that you're building up this new effectiveness stat, which is basically just more everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just more loot, more currency, more everything, but harder, harder mobs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can scale that pretty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: insanely in the temple when you're doing these snake runs of rooms and, you know, blocking off, but they can't be deleted when they do their random blowing up of the of the rooms.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know how it goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Core.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And and become still something people want to do because the thing is I'm not seeing people at all talk anywhere online at all about at zero being the goal of the temple and That sure should be the goal of the temple.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like I this is really cool what people have found to do with it, but I can't imagine that that's what they originally had

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[SPEAKER_00]: intended for the temple, like why build the temple with the end game, the end boss that you build, not even being a part of how you maximize and utilize the temple to its best.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I don't really, I would imagine they do something that,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Massively affects what you're actually getting in the temple with the goal being that you're doing it if you want to fight it Zary and maybe they're specific unique or the needs supports or something like it has been my best source of getting lineage supports by doing all these extra rooms But I'm probably doing that wrong too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there's something else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just been fun to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Idiot But I listen let me have my fun or even if it's wrong

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, so yeah, I started playing the tempo, I started playing the sorceress.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My whole goal was to do the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That didn't work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then I just started playing normally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm really having quite a lot of fun with the play style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's very reminiscent of the lich.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it a lich that I know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it was the one

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[SPEAKER_00]: What was that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What was the one where we get the dog?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the witch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The tendency where we get the dog is a companion, a companion, pet or whatever a minion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorcerer, um, the infernal, which had the infernal hell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and yes, to a wish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, it was very reminiscent of that play style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The, uh, I actually really do quite like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It scales so far extremely well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't believe how strong it was through the campaign.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like once you unlock, I did two of the, two of the jeans, have they called jeans?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why did two of them?

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[SPEAKER_00]: book doesn't tell you how to say it, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, so I, I did two of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did the, is it the sand one on the right and then I did the fire one on the left.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it's interesting because you're picking the, you're picking the minion and then you're picking which of the command skills you essentially want from the, from the, you know, the gin that you're picking.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I went into it knowing that I wanted to play the sorceress, but not having enough time to really look into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I looked online to see how people were setting them up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I'm this one guy who was running the, the, them with the way that seemed like the most fun to me, which was a massive, minion army.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, hopefully I didn't come through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just coughed and tried to mute it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just heard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw the thing up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just a massive minion army and you're using mustard to boost the damage of everything by having so many different versions because mustard increases the damage based on how many unique ones you have out and are just different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not yet, but different persistent minions for system in you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it makes it very easy to be relatively high because it's 7% per persistent minion and I have quite a few.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I did this not per persistent minion is per per person type or type of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So 7% per type of basically targeted minion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I have quite a few I've got well, yeah, because it's

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[SPEAKER_00]: sniper, frostmage, cleric, arsonist, and then I have a specter out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's kind of weird because you, because you're using two skills that come from your ascendancy,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of easy because, well, it's easier because I don't have to quality them because you can't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have to jule or orb them because I just need to level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I get to spend all of that extra stuff on the other things while these two things just continue to get stronger as I level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I don't know, it's been kind of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I run around and I basically just, the these guys only come out right when you use your cast, but the sangue is got a really good sort of AoE clear style one, and then it's got the fire one is...

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[SPEAKER_00]: got a pretty serious damage one, but then also when you cast a skill, or when you hit with one, when it hits, then the gin does its other move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of fun, because I'm not having to press the ton of buttons, like I'm using the two primary two three skills, most of time when I'm running through, and it's been a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to ask you though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to send you something, and I sent it to you on discord.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sounds good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You look like

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you're what you send might answer the question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, then before I hit send, what's the question?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I had a couple, but do your minions from your ascendancy consume spirit?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, they don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're not a turn on one anyway, because you already had a command skill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's when you use your skill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and you didn't do the Beetle?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A sentient, okay, because that's the only pass of one house curious about that one, so thanks for nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was curious, is this picture of skeletal arsenals?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Three pictures, there's three you can scroll through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember all of the tabs on the right-hand side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is for every skill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I notice this this league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I go through every skill now, it has all of the tabs right in one spot with all of the information.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I pulled up the skeletal arsonist, minion, as an example, just because I knew that you would use the arsonist before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But is this new being able to see all of this in one spot?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just changed where the tabs were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not new.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just those tabs used to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you look at the first picture that's just a skeletal arsonist, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I looks like it'd be highlighting explosive demise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those five tabs would have been at the top.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in between where your information is and icon for the skeletal arsonist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the data, what's the information in here that you feel you're missing and that they're lacking in giving you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I was trying to figure out what I'm able to say in the nation's in what sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there it says heavy attack for the skeletal arsonist.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but now it doesn't say how much of it is like is it converted?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it

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[SPEAKER_01]: physical to fire is it pure fire?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's those key words and key descriptions you need to is so if it's pure fire, awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But right there, all that's telling you is what you're getting based on what you have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not telling you what the default is and what you can scale or build off of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for yours it says main handfire damage, main hand cold damage, main hand chaos damage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well that is nothing to do with what the original scaling is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you were to do that with zombies, for example, there's nothing that tells you that if they do a strike, or if they do an AOE, if it's technically an attack or not, hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's still like those very generic things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when it comes to the actual tags as well, when you go through fire bomb explosive demise, there's the tags for those skills don't exist.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're getting your secondary data, which is awesome when it comes to comparing stuff, but not when it comes to actually making your original choice based on what you want to invest on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you hit the arrow to go to the next picture, you'll see the fire bomb one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what they're just their normal generic attack?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the part that you feel like they still should be showing you in there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because there's still, there's no tags.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The game itself still doesn't have an explanation for what explodes is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So technically,

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you see skeletal warriors at the skeletal arsonist, it'll tell you, I believe it does have an AOE tag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not telling you what the AOE tag is for, is that for the command?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that for explosive demise?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that for fireball?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, sir, with some situations like a skeletal arsonist, it's a little bit easier to make the assumption and connect, but it's not like that for a lot of the other ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have very different command skills versus default attacks or spells for the for the frostmage and again very different ones for the electrical major figure what they're called.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's they're just they're missing tags and then they're missing the description that actually says.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the details like for example you look into like SRS for the first game it took them 10 years but they finally got it where it says it deals physical damage blah blah blah converted to fire damage so just that kind of stuff they're missing that the details you need to make decisions on investment I love having all these extra details that they definitely didn't have like the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look here, they don't have that in path 1 at all, so it's awesome that they have it, but they're still missing the initial details that you need to make your investment choices start off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does that make sense or can you not really picture what I'm talking about?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do sort of, but I don't totally know how they would do that, or what I would do differently knowing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it would be different based on different minions, but for me it felt like I was getting a good amount of information, but I also was comparing that with POE1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another thing that they would be missing, for example, is if you had, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Decaying hacks on one of your curses, or if you have minion instability on one of your minions, supports that deal damage, you don't get that information in game at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't tell you what the support that you're considering putting into that link set.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't tell you which of those skills it's applying to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it doesn't tell you the amount of damage that it's going to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't give you the investment tags for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't give you anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't felt like I needed to know more, but also I also my minions are kind of just there to be a minion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they do damage, but they're also there to provide the bonus to the two Jin's to Jin's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, definitely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All I'm what I'll do is I'll come up with an example maybe for zombies or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like I'll take a couple screenshots and show you kind of like what's what's information that I would be looking for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll come up with a specific one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give it to you either for after dark or for the next episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's been fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I went with the ES for my fourth, third and fourth vicinity, and I can't tell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really hard to tell when you have so many minions because I was like, man, I feel way tankier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I'm quite tanky, but I also have like 40 things out there that could also be taking the hits for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that that's probably a big reason of why it feels so tanky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not familiar with the other, um, uh, it's just, I sense your pictures of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just minus one second to the base energy shield delay, which was cool and 40% more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you're low and then 60% of your current energy shield is added to your armor for determining physical damage reduction, which is crazy, like that gave me so much armor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have any investments into armor, is that it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: None.

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[SPEAKER_01]: None at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But are you wearing any armor gear or is it just I am wearing almost primarily all ESC gear?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the odd armor, yes, but almost everything is ESC.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, that does not see I.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, right, I did see that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what was your other one?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was for your third.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What was your other?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was three and four because three takes you to fourth teaching, which is minus four, and then four takes you to sacred rituals, which is that 60%, which that that 60% was pretty nuts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I couldn't tell if that's why I felt tanky, but I was feeling...

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have felt so far and see I could be a part of that as well, but I have felt quite strong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've currently got my delay down to 1.2 seconds for the... nice ES recharge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm normally just happy it too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cut it in half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: get me 100 percent energy shield start time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the super fast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a tough time personally choosing between more energy shield like a greater maximum or a faster recharge rate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's something about when energy shield is really fast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you feel like you messed up when you're in some sort of boss battle and it's the big hit you're worried about you're like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care about the quick hits.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish I had twice as much more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so it's fun, but you're liking it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm at just under seven KES, but I think that armor one does help quite a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it makes quite a big difference having that just straight up armor for not having anything else, but that point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm 83 or 84 somewhere on there, but I'm not really playing to level right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just trying to build this temple out and see what it's like and then try and play it at the, you know, it seems to scale with your level, which is kind of cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I got bored of the Atlas on my other characters, so I'm a little nervous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll get bored on this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was I get closer to it, but it depends, I guess, on the temple, and if I can even set it up, because it is a pain in the ass to get set up, the way that, you know, it's suggested, which that's what I want to try is what people say is the optimal way to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, all right, let me try whatever this says and see if it's any fun, excuse me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I had I did have a really good time playing this week Got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did have a piece of comment in like two seconds to dare Normally normally I can like wow you knew that one was coming Yeah, but then it was like Tacked you two thrusts and I'm done goodness me

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I had fun playing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you do anything this week?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Plain?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fairly, but as my in-laws were on route to come, like kind of during the Christmas break.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Still doing lots of family stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to figure out my build a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Love, I just, I don't know what it is, but this thing about weapon swapping.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, just the concept of weapon swapping to something more appropriate, like, I just love the idea in path too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like it a lot more than in path one, especially now that you can have the same supports.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I can have multiple supports of the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I can have mustard on, I mean, right, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I actually think it really benefits the theory crafting of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was a good choice of letting us use more

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[SPEAKER_01]: of the same support within the build.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I also love that I can lock my scepter for both weapon sets if I want to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't forget to do your focus, because I did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't realize that you have a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, what is happening?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, control is important on console still needs a little bit more visual clarity like I don't know which weapons set I'm on right so yes, but especially like I'm doing minion instability on one of my weapon sets and they're just boom exploding boom so I'm like four seconds

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[SPEAKER_01]: of hey guys what you guys want to talk about I don't know which web like a lot of the times I'm hitting the weapons swap button and it's not swapping there's no one I'm waiting for us Well, yeah, you can allocate it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I usually just use the skill bits on the other one It's okay, so for me, I don't have

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[SPEAKER_01]: the skills the same for both, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm playing the same way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just what are my minions doing that's different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So on one level, all minion instability.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So one weapon swap is basically it's just skeletal warriors and zombies and they're just exploding as soon as they're up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually had to take even though feeding frenzy, the highest level of feeding frenzy, even though it does a lot of damage, I actually found they explode too quickly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because not that they're taking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, even with the one that has the reduced damage taken 15 instead of 20% they're still exploding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you don't control even if you're right next to the boss, you don't control where they show up, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They kind of like space themselves though and then they rush.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was actually finding that I was getting less damage on a regular basis on my input because they just weren't getting there right and there's not a lot of clarity on if minion or yeah, if minion area of effect is impacting minion instability or not, I can't find a way to really properly test that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so I actually had to remove feeding frenzy from that, feeding frenzy works great on the empowered zombies, but that's like a small portion of the build now, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So so that's what one weapon swap is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just MI for zombies and skeletal warriors, but then I weapon swap and then the tree changes to having resists and mitigation less life, but resists and mitigation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to try it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of each minion, right, of the ranged minions, not the melee ones, because I'm, again, I'm still doing MI and zombies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I want to make sure they physically have the space in the game for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then it's just the ranged ones like the arsonist, the frost, the skeleton, a cleric, and the sniper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so let's just go on through and do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't had a lot of opportunities to try it out, but I just enjoy doing that, but my active skill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and then I have cast on minion death.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that's what's casting across the stream.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, actually, that's what's casting Frostbomb, snap, and firestorm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's so that I can create and consume infusions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and that creates power charges so that no matter where I'm at, I've got a few empowered zombies going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which I absolutely, I love that set up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's great cast on minion death as 30 spirit is so great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, it's so much, so much more fun because it doesn't cost me as much offense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, it has, it's like that's 30 spirit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The difference from last league in this league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, so I've been enjoying that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: B used to be 60, just until it's too much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was happy for the change.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't had a lot of time to play with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, haven't had a lot of time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, of course, I was respeaking again, but then I specked into E.S.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I want to try that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember last couple of weeks, I was having trouble with physical damage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not your gin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't have the opportunity to give the really focus on the E.S.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just want to see if stack E.S.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Would be beneficial there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know that I always went to with, uh, you know, we haven't worked that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you didn't play too much though this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited to play more, but, uh, no, I haven't just getting that cough in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, that's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm having fun with it, which is impressive this far into the league for me, because I thought it'd be done right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I'm not done because there's no the games I really in the mood to play or if it's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's something about the tempo right now that it reminds me of when I was dealing with the city building the city.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I just want to get it done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to, I just want to, I just want it to grow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I feel like with the tempo right now, but man, when it deletes stuff that you've been trying to work on, because you didn't get something that stops it from deleting this, a row or something, it hurts, but yeah, we'll see what it goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited to keep going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sad to keep playing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking forward to every time I play, I get really tired.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm not sure if that's because of minion instability or how flashy some of the minion skills are like I kind of gravitate to skeletal arsonists because I like that they have an AOE just innately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're decent for clear, but I like their single target as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So even if I wasn't doing the kind of mustard thing where I had a bunch of different

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[SPEAKER_01]: that they kind of tick both boxes at once, but the weapon swapping is just so fun because I can go from

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not just what I'm in the mood for, but also if there's a situation that Cater's better to more ranged minions on the outside versus, or just like rushing and it's more safer for me to be really close to the boss, and then I can switch to MI and it's just a button swap, but I can't tell which one I'm on yet, right, and so I was saying so sometimes you know that's not so I don't think that's any different on PC is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it would be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For me on controller at least, I don't know it's like with non-controller support,

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I wish there was like the in on the icon because I used the D on the D pad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wish it was just like a big one or a big two on there and maybe color coat it, too, because weapon set one on the tree is red, weapon set two on the tree is green, so maybe you have it match that, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that there's a quick, you don't even have to read it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're going to roll to the well when you're on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, something like that, but I'm excited to get it going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really want to actually try stuff out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So even if I was kind of bored with the game, I'd still actually want to try this out for, you know, POE science land and see if the EES is actually working for me and beneficial.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a lot of times like this has been so much testing for me, like just not just with MI before, and if minion damage works, and like there's just been so much that I've been trying out and seen, that's the same thing with me, like I'm intentionally standing still in my battles to see how,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like okay am I comfortable with this amount of recharge rate?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's take a look at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when I respect I went and because I'm using I think it's 23 out of the 24 weapon set nodes separately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The main tree is just primarily like all the ES stuff.

57:27.374 --> 57:31.583
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, there's there's minion stuff in there too, and then the minion revive I want on both.

57:31.704 --> 57:37.858
[SPEAKER_01]: But resist on one and then just a much minion life and damage on the other.

57:38.539 --> 57:45.214
[SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of that power is still yet to come because I'm still on the level 68 or 69 something like that.

57:45.194 --> 57:45.735
[SPEAKER_01]: result.

57:46.276 --> 57:52.849
[SPEAKER_01]: The offensively the build is weaker than it used to be, but I'm set up with the exception of my gear still sucks.

57:52.869 --> 57:55.634
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I, my gear's all absolute trash.

57:55.875 --> 57:56.356
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's fun.

57:56.436 --> 58:03.149
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm enjoying testing it out and the motivation is there to keep playing it because I actually want to figure out the game more.

58:03.590 --> 58:07.337
[SPEAKER_01]: I know the game can change extreme.

58:07.317 --> 58:11.563
[SPEAKER_01]: And quickly or whenever, but there's a lot that isn't going to change as well.

58:11.583 --> 58:13.145
[SPEAKER_01]: So look forward to it.

58:13.646 --> 58:13.846
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

58:13.866 --> 58:17.290
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I have to get ready to lay my, what's it called, Tota?

58:18.192 --> 58:20.375
[SPEAKER_01]: Tota, you tell me, I don't know.

58:20.475 --> 58:25.041
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, whatever they, whatever the cool kids say because I hate trials of Sechema.

58:25.622 --> 58:26.883
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate the trials of chaos.

58:27.704 --> 58:28.946
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're going to love.

58:29.267 --> 58:30.769
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I already have to love it.

58:31.329 --> 58:32.130
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm going to do.

58:32.731 --> 58:32.932
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

58:33.052 --> 58:35.535
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be your thing.

58:35.870 --> 58:49.269
[SPEAKER_01]: I could actually progress when that league was though, like hopefully do it, right, you know, because it had all I did was do nothing to do with my character, but I set this up and then I go in the safe place isn't everybody's happy and then I move on.

58:49.669 --> 58:57.300
[SPEAKER_00]: But total was very much like trial and second, where you need to run it a few times to build up the things you would need to be able to actually complete it.

58:57.440 --> 58:58.342
[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully that's not.

59:00.004 --> 59:01.506
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not that bad.

59:01.486 --> 59:05.290
[SPEAKER_00]: because it would be nice to have an easier way to your third ascendancy.

59:05.330 --> 59:08.454
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't mind there being a challenge to a send.

59:08.554 --> 59:09.876
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't like how it is right now.

59:09.936 --> 59:11.818
[SPEAKER_00]: It's too, it's too long.

59:11.838 --> 59:19.627
[SPEAKER_00]: G-gated, it's too time line, you know, I have to spend time in second minute get the right or by the right relics to make it easier.

59:19.667 --> 59:27.055
[SPEAKER_00]: And then also, you just have to hope and pray that you just don't get a shitty layout for your temple.

59:27.035 --> 59:30.521
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for me it's not about the challenge either.

59:30.541 --> 59:33.466
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're you don't play Path of Exile and not one challenge.

59:33.526 --> 59:35.810
[SPEAKER_01]: It's It's the fun factor.

59:35.971 --> 59:43.103
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me use my bloody build Yep, I do agree with you on that and so we'll be fun to see what they do

59:43.353 --> 59:46.897
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then all of a sudden, my mind starts going, right?

59:46.917 --> 59:55.628
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a lot of questions and discord this week of conversations about the value of the starting notes that I referenced often for the witch for minion damage.

59:55.668 --> 59:57.150
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious to see what your tree is.

59:57.350 --> 01:00:01.475
[SPEAKER_01]: If did you put it in anything third party, or is it all just in the game?

01:00:02.276 --> 01:00:08.263
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, yeah, if you have it in third party, I'd like to take a look at it, see what your tree is like, and that'd be nice.

01:00:08.243 --> 01:00:15.432
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I haven't felt a, I have not felt a struggle for content, like passing through content.

01:00:15.712 --> 01:00:18.235
[SPEAKER_00]: And granted, I do have a lot of minion stuff on the tree.

01:00:18.376 --> 01:00:19.217
[SPEAKER_00]: I am kind of curious.

01:00:19.237 --> 01:00:20.618
[SPEAKER_00]: It's one thing that I've always wondered too.

01:00:20.698 --> 01:00:22.360
[SPEAKER_00]: And I saw the conversation happening there too.

01:00:22.841 --> 01:00:30.851
[SPEAKER_00]: Like what value are you getting out of that very starting part as the which versus what you can gain from other ascendancies and just the rest of the tree in general?

01:00:31.432 --> 01:00:32.413
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, further.

01:00:33.094 --> 01:00:38.200
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when you add more damage

01:00:38.180 --> 01:00:44.569
[SPEAKER_01]: The increased damage, so there's a 100% increased damage that would scale with any more damage that you're getting.

01:00:45.090 --> 01:00:48.735
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's also its damage per node is huge, right?

01:00:49.316 --> 01:00:58.028
[SPEAKER_01]: Like sure, there's other parts of the tree where you could get 10% increased minion damage per node, but not if you have to travel to get there.

01:00:58.008 --> 01:01:12.470
[SPEAKER_01]: If you have to travel to get there, it gets diluted to around 8% or 7%, so you only get that 10% per node if you're already in the area, whereas as the which you are in the area, that's where you're starting, and your very first nodes are there.

01:01:13.191 --> 01:01:17.637
[SPEAKER_01]: And not only that, you're getting those nodes right off the bat.

01:01:18.158 --> 01:01:24.808
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's no chance of that, but they're not useful.

01:01:24.788 --> 01:01:27.292
[SPEAKER_00]: But you can ban her as the wish.

01:01:27.552 --> 01:01:27.813
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

01:01:28.354 --> 01:01:28.774
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, right.

01:01:28.814 --> 01:01:30.036
[SPEAKER_01]: What else am I going to do?

01:01:30.497 --> 01:01:34.964
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, as a minion, like, it's crazy to me that you couldn't level as an archetype.

01:01:35.465 --> 01:01:36.046
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:01:36.146 --> 01:01:38.449
[SPEAKER_01]: The witch lets you do that to an extent.

01:01:38.509 --> 01:01:41.294
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, my skeletons are still no survivability skeletons are dying.

01:01:41.314 --> 01:01:43.417
[SPEAKER_01]: But there are other minions available.

01:01:43.617 --> 01:01:49.767
[SPEAKER_01]: I have the last league and a half actually leveled as a minion player without scurting around it.

01:01:49.747 --> 01:01:52.353
[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, that is a huge benefit as well.

01:01:52.754 --> 01:01:54.037
[SPEAKER_01]: There's one source that I'm missing.

01:01:54.057 --> 01:01:54.699
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to bring it up.

01:01:54.719 --> 01:01:58.548
[SPEAKER_01]: But I am curious because I want to know how you leveled as a source source.

01:01:58.909 --> 01:02:05.545
[SPEAKER_00]: I leveled with, I got, I did whatever I could to get this, uh, summon raging spirits, and then I just used.

01:02:05.525 --> 01:02:20.225
[SPEAKER_00]: volcano and flamewall and just throughout raging spirits until I ascended and then as soon as I ascended I went to the first gin and was able to level with Alcaras the way and I was laughing with a minion-based skill over the rest of the way after that.

01:02:20.766 --> 01:02:28.336
[SPEAKER_01]: So, but you what did you use until you got raging spirits because that doesn't happen for a little bit until I was like 11 or something?

01:02:28.736 --> 01:02:30.739
[SPEAKER_00]: I used

01:02:31.765 --> 01:02:35.709
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, I think I was using a small cano right off the bat while cano and flame wall.

01:02:36.370 --> 01:02:38.171
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:02:38.191 --> 01:02:43.637
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the thing that's weird with the sorceress and even with this as a minion build, I doesn't feel like a minion build.

01:02:43.657 --> 01:02:48.302
[SPEAKER_00]: I have 40 minions running around me, but it feels just like a spell casting build.

01:02:48.322 --> 01:02:56.710
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm essentially casting their command skills and then the minions are doing what they're supposed to do, but it's not a spell build in the sense that I need any spell damage.

01:02:56.750 --> 01:03:01.755
[SPEAKER_00]: It just feels like you're a spellcaster because your damage comes from when you press a button.

01:03:01.735 --> 01:03:02.076
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

01:03:03.218 --> 01:03:04.120
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember exactly.

01:03:04.160 --> 01:03:05.763
[SPEAKER_00]: I would have to try to remember.

01:03:05.823 --> 01:03:08.489
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember exactly what I used to level, but it wasn't that bad.

01:03:08.509 --> 01:03:16.726
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was, it was a little bit uncomfortable until I send it and then once I send it, it was super, super easy.

01:03:17.027 --> 01:03:18.630
[SPEAKER_00]: As soon as I got that first ascension.

01:03:19.555 --> 01:03:20.837
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I remember what they did.

01:03:20.877 --> 01:03:21.799
[SPEAKER_00]: I was doing contagion.

01:03:21.979 --> 01:03:22.960
[SPEAKER_00]: And I did not like it.

01:03:23.281 --> 01:03:24.322
[SPEAKER_00]: Essence during contagion.

01:03:24.683 --> 01:03:26.806
[SPEAKER_00]: I once I got to Essence train.

01:03:26.826 --> 01:03:27.828
[SPEAKER_00]: I knew it was fine.

01:03:27.968 --> 01:03:30.572
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just not a place cell that works well for me with controller.

01:03:30.592 --> 01:03:31.754
[SPEAKER_00]: Keep order mouse way better.

01:03:32.195 --> 01:03:32.656
[SPEAKER_00]: Controller.

01:03:33.397 --> 01:03:37.924
[SPEAKER_00]: I, you don't control where you're going to fire something off and ah, Essence train is not you.

01:03:37.944 --> 01:03:39.406
[SPEAKER_00]: You need to be smart.

01:03:39.426 --> 01:03:39.947
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not.

01:03:40.127 --> 01:03:41.209
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not.

01:03:41.189 --> 01:04:08.513
[SPEAKER_01]: same of course as sometimes for me like I have it set up so like I love the idea that you can still like manipulate the smartness of your casting kind of like there's there's you know you can control how like the value or how prior you know all you don't know I can let me show you how I change it I feel like it's kind of arranged and I turn off direction priority okay but I always want it to cast

01:04:08.493 --> 01:04:10.837
[SPEAKER_01]: And so a lot of the times and and I love it.

01:04:10.897 --> 01:04:16.806
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's absolutely perfect the way that it is and so I'll send you to show you a screenshot of what I have checked and not checked off.

01:04:16.826 --> 01:04:22.835
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's sometimes I'm still cursing at the game because obviously in the moment it's not my fault somebody else's fault, but Sure.

01:04:23.415 --> 01:04:25.118
[SPEAKER_01]: When I'm cursing at the game because I'm like no

01:04:25.098 --> 01:04:26.561
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I wanted it to be this person.

01:04:26.601 --> 01:04:42.313
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want you to use the settings that I have right now, I know I thought of them because I didn't realize there was a skeleton closer to me on the opposite side of me than the boss was and then, you know, I mean,

01:04:42.293 --> 01:04:52.269
[SPEAKER_01]: But the other point that I gave five star men who was who I was talking with in Discord about the starting clusters for minions was I'm thinking solo cell phone a lot of the time.

01:04:52.329 --> 01:04:58.058
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to be afraid so me making up that 100% that the witch gets at the beginning.

01:04:58.038 --> 01:05:01.467
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot more difficult because I'm never ever thinking trade.

01:05:01.487 --> 01:05:06.301
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not that I'm against trade, but I don't like planning around it And at the end of the idea, I actually don't find trade fun.

01:05:06.361 --> 01:05:08.005
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't mind selling, but I hate buying.

01:05:08.266 --> 01:05:13.701
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, and that's a personal preference, and I know the game's designed around trade, so it's not necessarily love buying.

01:05:13.681 --> 01:05:14.021
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

01:05:14.922 --> 01:05:26.234
[SPEAKER_01]: But for me, because I'm solo cell-found that 100% starting node, the 100% minion damage at the beginning is huge, and think about what it takes to make that up later.

01:05:26.714 --> 01:05:34.863
[SPEAKER_01]: Like sure, I can get whatever gear that gives me plus to minion levels or increased minion damage whatever, but that comes later.

01:05:35.463 --> 01:05:39.908
[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes like much later, because I have more important things to focus on at the beginning.

01:05:39.888 --> 01:05:41.130
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to live.

01:05:41.712 --> 01:05:42.313
[SPEAKER_01]: I need life.

01:05:42.754 --> 01:05:43.936
[SPEAKER_01]: I need resistance.

01:05:43.956 --> 01:05:44.136
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:05:44.317 --> 01:05:45.098
[SPEAKER_01]: I need spirit.

01:05:46.160 --> 01:05:46.281
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:05:46.301 --> 01:05:57.643
[SPEAKER_01]: So I need to actually survive these encounters so that 100% minion damage right off the bat is extremely valuable because the gear that I'm getting might not come to like on level 70 or 80.

01:05:57.623 --> 01:05:58.464
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:05:58.504 --> 01:06:01.808
[SPEAKER_01]: So in solo cell found land, it is a massive difference.

01:06:02.208 --> 01:06:07.654
[SPEAKER_01]: But I am really curious for these non-witch because I don't like any of the witch ascendancies.

01:06:08.155 --> 01:06:16.264
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm really curious, like I am going to figure this out and try to, from a solo cell found perspective, be content with the leveling process.

01:06:16.745 --> 01:06:21.370
[SPEAKER_01]: And the thing is, it's nice that I don't really have to worry about it because I know the game is going to change dramatically.

01:06:21.350 --> 01:06:30.487
[SPEAKER_01]: The one thing that I do find frustrating though is if I want to start as the shaman, the which starting clusters are actually the sorceress starting clusters.

01:06:31.268 --> 01:06:31.909
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's right.

01:06:32.190 --> 01:06:37.940
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I can't start as the shaman and then eventually speck into the witches starting clusters.

01:06:38.181 --> 01:06:38.802
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not there.

01:06:38.982 --> 01:06:40.084
[SPEAKER_01]: And I

01:06:40.064 --> 01:06:42.607
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a really weird thing going forward.

01:06:42.787 --> 01:06:48.834
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's going to be these classes use this tree and these classes use the other tree.

01:06:49.175 --> 01:06:54.341
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're almost going to be grouped together in that regard, which is another odd.

01:06:54.381 --> 01:07:01.670
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how far they thought into that because it would have been really nice to be the shaman and sure, okay, now I'm getting some armor and E.S.

01:07:01.710 --> 01:07:02.711
[SPEAKER_01]: is going through a life region.

01:07:02.731 --> 01:07:05.194
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever I choose for there, I don't know what their starting clusters are.

01:07:05.174 --> 01:07:11.300
[SPEAKER_01]: But then eventually, because if I'm doing minions, I'm going to be scooting over to that north part of the tree for all the revive nodes, right?

01:07:11.921 --> 01:07:13.863
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, survivability resistance all up there.

01:07:14.684 --> 01:07:19.508
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, it would have been nice to just eventually speck into that, which is starting cluster two.

01:07:19.548 --> 01:07:21.510
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I wonder, the revive nodes there, too?

01:07:22.171 --> 01:07:33.122
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, but I'm really curious how much that, and I don't know how you'd properly test it because it does change a bit, but I'm curious how much that starting node for the which.

01:07:33.102 --> 01:07:48.586
[SPEAKER_00]: how it equals or correlates to minion level, how many plus minion level makes up for that starting area, because that seems to be, and I don't know that this is the way that they've wanted it, but they've gone this way for a long time.

01:07:48.606 --> 01:07:50.629
[SPEAKER_00]: That seems to be the best way to scale your minion damage.

01:07:50.709 --> 01:07:51.550
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just get more levels.

01:07:52.332 --> 01:07:59.683
[SPEAKER_01]: And it currently is, it currently is, but that's

01:07:59.714 --> 01:08:14.938
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and I'm talking from a trade perspective, uh, not necessarily perspective because from a trade perspective of that and that section that you're talking about becomes much less relevant when I can trade for gear that's going to bump me up seven to eight levels of minions.

01:08:14.918 --> 01:08:36.775
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm still I'm going to get the majority of what I'm still going to get any of the minion nodes on the tree that I want anyway, so I'm missing out on that beginning part, but in trade I can get so much power out of the plus minion level that I think it becomes less relevant and I'm getting played for you know a different build anyway.

01:08:36.755 --> 01:09:04.804
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I think which is probably still the best option for a minion build because you could get that and then in trade get all the plus and you could whatever, but I don't know that there's an ascendancy, at least for me, in the which side that makes me want to play minions with it, which is why I was so fond of play at Sorceress 1 with minions, like it just, yeah, that makes it interesting.

01:09:05.020 --> 01:09:09.832
[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the only ones where I can find four nodes that I find relevant for the way that I want to play.

01:09:09.872 --> 01:09:14.665
[SPEAKER_01]: Oracle seems interesting, but outside of unlock in the path.

01:09:15.366 --> 01:09:16.409
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what you want to do.

01:09:16.429 --> 01:09:17.291
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that is amazing.

01:09:17.432 --> 01:09:19.296
[SPEAKER_00]: Get in any notables around a keystone.

01:09:19.537 --> 01:09:20.700
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a freaking love that one.

01:09:20.917 --> 01:09:24.281
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the Oracle actually is has some pretty good ones.

01:09:24.401 --> 01:09:24.922
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the orc.

01:09:24.942 --> 01:09:25.623
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, for sure.

01:09:25.663 --> 01:09:26.644
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think they do.

01:09:26.684 --> 01:09:27.665
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, here.

01:09:27.705 --> 01:09:28.526
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that for sure.

01:09:29.007 --> 01:09:29.807
[SPEAKER_01]: For sure.

01:09:29.888 --> 01:09:30.188
[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.

01:09:30.208 --> 01:09:30.468
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

01:09:30.488 --> 01:09:34.032
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, let me bring it up quick before we take off.

01:09:34.052 --> 01:09:36.235
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, you're about to say it's time to time to wrap it up.

01:09:36.515 --> 01:09:37.557
[SPEAKER_01]: So sorry.

01:09:37.637 --> 01:09:39.859
[SPEAKER_01]: We have the unseen path and then the keystone one.

01:09:40.500 --> 01:09:41.041
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:09:41.061 --> 01:09:46.047
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and then there's two skills moment of vulnerability and aligned faith.

01:09:46.087 --> 01:09:47.228
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what those do.

01:09:48.018 --> 01:09:52.442
[SPEAKER_01]: hit damage is taken from man on note, and a recovery is tough.

01:09:52.462 --> 01:09:52.722
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

01:09:52.742 --> 01:10:00.169
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I do like a damage of enemies hitting you is unlucky and enemy critical hit chance against you is unlucky.

01:10:00.229 --> 01:10:02.331
[SPEAKER_00]: I do like that one after that is all crits, right?

01:10:02.851 --> 01:10:05.654
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the other one is inevitable crits, but that's not for me.

01:10:05.674 --> 01:10:07.235
[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm doing minions, that doesn't matter to me.

01:10:07.796 --> 01:10:11.399
[SPEAKER_01]: No, so and then some in totems.

01:10:12.160 --> 01:10:16.624
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Logan went with some in totem route with so it depends on what those other

01:10:16.604 --> 01:10:17.906
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah there's two that interest me.

01:10:18.527 --> 01:10:41.447
[SPEAKER_01]: That's one thing that I used to really focus on on the tree was getting a whole bunch of crit reduction from enemies and then you just get the lowest possible role on a shield would be enough to cap you at 100% so basically make you invincible to crit or make it so that crit didn't give you any extra damage and I haven't seen much of that on the tree though I don't even know if I remember to look for it.

01:10:41.798 --> 01:10:44.101
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's the next thing for me.

01:10:44.161 --> 01:10:53.715
[SPEAKER_01]: After I kind of figure out and I play around a lot with this which I think my next set up is Attempting to be a non-witch Try that out.

01:10:54.135 --> 01:11:01.065
[SPEAKER_01]: I think one thing that I might actually try is Like I really liked the I don't know what's her name.

01:11:01.105 --> 01:11:05.511
[SPEAKER_01]: She does the Sorceress storm we've room

01:11:05.491 --> 01:11:31.330
[SPEAKER_01]: Storm weaver actually might have some cool stuff because you just get that nice manner region on a regular basis Any damage that I do which you know, I'm still going to be doing something can chill or shock So I do like that and because I'm doing zombies the remnants are a bit of deal collecting remnants getting them from a different Different thing they appear longer you can get them from farther away so

01:11:31.478 --> 01:11:33.561
[SPEAKER_01]: That actually kind of suits a lot of what I'm doing.

01:11:34.021 --> 01:11:43.574
[SPEAKER_01]: So it depends on how what my mana, mana region would be like from that because the sorceress, or sorry, the litch gives me a lot of mana region with one ascension.

01:11:44.335 --> 01:11:45.957
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you have to get it from the tree.

01:11:46.578 --> 01:11:49.101
[SPEAKER_01]: And then this one gives it with two ascensions.

01:11:49.121 --> 01:11:49.722
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see.

01:11:49.742 --> 01:11:52.246
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, yeah, that's my next thing is figuring it out.

01:11:52.846 --> 01:11:55.630
[SPEAKER_01]: Soul cell found wise without the witch.

01:11:55.897 --> 01:12:03.450
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for me, Van is not a huge issue because I don't have, I'm not cursing often, I'm cursing when I'm doing a boss or a hard to rare.

01:12:03.470 --> 01:12:07.877
[SPEAKER_00]: And for the other, the command skills are like, I'm, I'm never running out of mana.

01:12:08.719 --> 01:12:08.819
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

01:12:09.340 --> 01:12:12.104
[SPEAKER_00]: It is fun to get back in the play and see eye character though.

01:12:12.525 --> 01:12:14.308
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I love see eye so much.

01:12:14.589 --> 01:12:17.854
[SPEAKER_01]: And when I was planning my witch, um,

01:12:18.020 --> 01:12:20.968
[SPEAKER_01]: I was really disappointed that I couldn't make CI work.

01:12:21.008 --> 01:12:22.011
[SPEAKER_01]: It was too far out of the way.

01:12:22.572 --> 01:12:23.174
[SPEAKER_01]: From the point.

01:12:23.776 --> 01:12:27.546
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, because I'm going with a lot of minion stuff that it's taken me to the west side of the tree.

01:12:27.586 --> 01:12:28.789
[SPEAKER_03]: No.

01:12:28.938 --> 01:12:31.562
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was too, but I mean, but I'm also the Litch, right?

01:12:32.083 --> 01:12:33.966
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, right, yeah, yeah.

01:12:33.986 --> 01:12:37.992
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, because that's life region from an array, yeah.

01:12:38.593 --> 01:12:46.065
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man, a region comes from life, and then also there's the note that says my life can't change if I have yes, right?

01:12:46.566 --> 01:12:46.946
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember that?

01:12:47.407 --> 01:12:48.769
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, so.

01:12:48.749 --> 01:12:49.570
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

01:12:49.671 --> 01:12:50.171
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been fun.

01:12:50.312 --> 01:12:51.133
[SPEAKER_00]: I like doing the yes.

01:12:51.193 --> 01:12:54.338
[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny because my girl's have been watching and asking questions.

01:12:54.358 --> 01:12:55.941
[SPEAKER_00]: This has been playing Oh, nice.

01:12:55.961 --> 01:13:00.228
[SPEAKER_00]: And so they came in the other day and my endist was like, why is your health blue?

01:13:00.248 --> 01:13:04.775
[SPEAKER_00]: What happened because I had just changed the idea so I was explaining it to her, but it's pretty fun.

01:13:05.176 --> 01:13:05.897
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's cool.

01:13:06.017 --> 01:13:09.643
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you did you find a way to make your life flasks valuable or useful?

01:13:09.623 --> 01:13:10.885
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.

01:13:11.245 --> 01:13:11.686
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't.

01:13:12.047 --> 01:13:12.948
[SPEAKER_00]: There may be a way.

01:13:13.028 --> 01:13:13.649
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really know.

01:13:13.769 --> 01:13:15.011
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't even looked to be honest.

01:13:15.031 --> 01:13:18.576
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't haven't had like a scary moment.

01:13:18.637 --> 01:13:21.901
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I wondered, like, was there, did I do something?

01:13:21.961 --> 01:13:22.723
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what's happening?

01:13:22.763 --> 01:13:25.126
[SPEAKER_00]: Why do I feel so resistant?

01:13:25.146 --> 01:13:31.716
[SPEAKER_00]: But then I, I'm wondering if it's just because there's so many minions out that I'm just taking less pits to me.

01:13:32.317 --> 01:13:32.998
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

01:13:32.978 --> 01:13:38.051
[SPEAKER_00]: It is scary when you see I though because when you do start to get low, you're like, oh, how do I find a spot?

01:13:38.452 --> 01:13:40.237
[SPEAKER_00]: Because like a dejan can be on the ground.

01:13:40.317 --> 01:13:44.387
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not maybe doing much damage, but it is stopping you from, there's no abort plan.

01:13:44.407 --> 01:13:48.979
[SPEAKER_00]: Check it in your, your, uh, region.

01:13:48.959 --> 01:13:49.420
[SPEAKER_01]: That's fun.

01:13:50.461 --> 01:13:50.561
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:13:50.581 --> 01:14:12.145
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, but there's nothing like there's just so much chaos damage throughout the campaign, which would be good if there was a little bit more the user could do to help out with that besides dodge role, but I loved going CI, like, as fast as I could through the campaign, just then that all of a sudden I'm fighting the Viper, and I'm like, sorry, lady, didn't you deal that?

01:14:12.806 --> 01:14:13.907
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all right, right.

01:14:14.968 --> 01:14:15.068
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:14:15.048 --> 01:14:18.313
[SPEAKER_01]: But not to get inside you're having a good time and I'm excited to see where you're going.

01:14:18.493 --> 01:14:20.977
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01:14:20.997 --> 01:14:21.258
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01:14:21.839 --> 01:14:22.079
[SPEAKER_00]: Sweet.

01:14:22.139 --> 01:14:22.940
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's wrap this up then.

01:14:22.980 --> 01:14:24.082
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01:14:24.323 --> 01:14:26.145
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01:14:28.669 --> 01:14:32.616
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01:14:33.136 --> 01:14:34.018
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01:14:34.038 --> 01:14:35.701
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01:14:35.721 --> 01:14:36.922
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01:14:42.149 --> 01:14:44.732
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01:14:44.752 --> 01:14:46.254
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't look at my notes once.

01:14:47.536 --> 01:14:48.297
[SPEAKER_01]: Three things.

01:14:49.098 --> 01:14:49.859
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, fun things.

01:14:49.979 --> 01:14:50.199
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:53.764
[SPEAKER_01]: I love gold in Path 2 for respeking.

01:14:53.804 --> 01:14:54.365
[SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome.

01:14:54.525 --> 01:14:57.609
[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't talk about our 327 Path of Exile 1 private league.

01:14:58.090 --> 01:15:02.095
[SPEAKER_01]: And I love seeing how many people are running on New Year's Day.

01:15:02.635 --> 01:15:05.379
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the amount of people that are running and jogging out there.

01:15:05.439 --> 01:15:06.861
[SPEAKER_01]: Come here to any other day of the year.

01:15:07.462 --> 01:15:10.806
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you drive around

01:15:10.786 --> 01:15:16.566
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, they gave up on the first they got all right, what the fuck is that you in the resolution sucks.

01:15:17.369 --> 01:15:17.590
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.

01:15:18.072 --> 01:15:18.754
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, get by