Early Last Epoch Comparisons

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to ForeverXile.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Justin A.K.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tags.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm Tyler Recker of Days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm speaking into the mic, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Episode 3.39.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've our podcast together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And big shout out to our patrons thanks everybody who resubbed up this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We keep going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Talk in this spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's find all the things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All the things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Join now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For yours, only blah blah blah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get to that in a minute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That ad made me laugh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what isn't making me laugh this might be the first time despite the fact that we've already been on the call for 10 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This might be the first time I've seen you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, move your lips.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can we rejoin the call?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're fine for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I see you're fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, it's your GBEs that aren't touching my dear piece properly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you left without all rude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Back in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ready.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, does it sound like it's working?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How are you now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm great because now you're good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Smack your sound.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Still always good thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Any special dates to acknowledge besides Easter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You dare.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I changed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I changed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I changed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I saw this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still I was actually.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you're on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's on March 27th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: archive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's do it over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks, everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Trends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and Easter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever it is that you celebrate is, uh, we're on Friday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey Zeus or the Easter Bunny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is Friday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're recording on Friday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So long weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's the extent of our news.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's also the recap of our personal life and our path of Excel week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you everybody for listening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you a paper a weekend?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, is that how was your week, though?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But honestly, like last week, we just recorded yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I swear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: go out feels like that you mean like I was like okay yeah like yesterday was like sweet it's Tuesday starts with a tea so it's obviously Tuesday not Thursday and I'm like alright I got to play some pan-tiny bit of path of exile and you know just the we didn't have to do a few maps even if I end up burning out in 30 minutes do some maps have a good time and you know I'll have been thinking about path to again and I know they just came out with an update because they were doing racing out of nowhere and then you know they had the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, one of the, what, what's the post called, uh, where they do like a build showcasing and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, but think of path 2, I can see their, you know, getting their gears going for the game, then I realized it was Thursday and I already had plans that night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now we're recording.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we're good though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all the dog is at a stage where it's really just consuming lots of time, which is great and expected, but it is the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, dog life's doing great, really learning lots and really trying hard at the dog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're just still making sure that the potty training part, the

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[SPEAKER_00]: is is priority.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the dog just goes out lots after every nap after every big drink.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You set that 10, 15 minute timer, then you're outside, but it's full of beans, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So trying to teach it to be a gentle dog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This 800 pound thing is excited to see you or someone else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty with the kids up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just doesn't know he has sharp things on the ends of his

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[SPEAKER_00]: or that jumping at people with your mouth open isn't good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But fun, but we're getting there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it's been a great week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the kids are on their four day weekend because spring break wasn't enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Seriously, two weeks off to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At least for some really Easter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, that's a least.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, not much to update there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just been busy with the same old, same old, but I'm really excited.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been raining lots since like we complimented the weather last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like whoever's control on the weather was like, oh, I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not think that I gave you two nice days in a row.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So There's been lots of rain and for because it hasn't been like super cold.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't been in a rush to get my plants into like a better thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's still in the store bought cases kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they've just been outside on the chair for about a week waiting waiting for some love.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've been kind of a

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[SPEAKER_00]: Picky little prince and I'm like, no, I'm gonna plant you when it's sunny and nice this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was told that tomorrow's been nice this weekend is tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're supposed to not be any rain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're very little.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were supposed to be like that Thursday and Friday and then all of a sudden the person who controls the weather radar was like, Oh, not on girlfriend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So change that last minute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was that it just meant that we saw from, because we pay, it's American, but we pay for all their subscriptions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a price that it sends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the American amount.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I assume it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I was a pretty steep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like 30% increase.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dequored.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, excellent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, thanks for nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, we get these videos together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're sometimes we're off sync.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's worth paying for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We pay for the little symbols, okay?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we pay for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hate the backwardsness of it, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, honestly, discord's really solid for a free approach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very, very solid for a free program.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, so I guess this is not in reference to discord at all, but it just drives me nuts when a company who's like, yeah, this here's the free version of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Google's AI is like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, Google's AI screws up a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're good for some stuff, but they are ridiculous with other things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, okay, well, here's our free product.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't you pay for the better one, and that's where your improvements come, but I'm like, no, if it sucks now, I'm expecting it to suck later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's not going to stop sucking if I'm going to be out of your bucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Discord though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We would neither of us would pay for it if we didn't have the server.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that was 100% so that's why I said at the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After I realized I'm like, oh, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's actually really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just pay for our dash tabs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's dash tabs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I segue into Path of Exile being free.

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[SPEAKER_01]: P-O-E, it is free.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, let's go ahead and I'm glad the dogs do in well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Crystal, maybe the two lines are saw the dog, which is cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And which was crazy timing because Brandon Tiff came down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're there at the exact same time, just by coincidence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, got to hang out with Brandon and Tiffany and Chris and his kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of his kids boyfriends.

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[UNKNOWN]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: very thought it was your week uh well i work it was just work this the kids the kids were back to school this week yep they were back to school so that was awesome and let me check my calendar were the kids just double check sweet around was i supposed to what i was working so uh so that he was watching him you know it was uh it was good i had uh couple like non-work related appointments but otherwise it was

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't do anything else so it's out of work this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We watched Paradise Season 2, we were working through Paradise Season 2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember you liking the first season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's more than I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't like it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yes and no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes and no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt like I was watching a kids play, but the actors were really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just was written, really cheesy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And are you going to watch Season 2?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very difficult.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like it though, but it's different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're only think two episodes in, but yeah, I don't think I played anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This week I don't think I was on my computer besides work, but whatever, it's a long weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been really good at getting back to the not letting crap work up me up and get my blood pressure going so so there's a good thing to filter yeah I just I was like all right, I'm gonna I don't actually care if you're bitching about something alright with that so but but we did have a panic on whatever the 30 30 31 Tuesday

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[SPEAKER_01]: Big panic on the 31st, but otherwise the week was pretty slow and chill and yeah Technicolor personal like personal was worth personal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, it was technical.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like people stuff, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now people stuff is going pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah people stuff is going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man some of the stories used to have though But some of the people that used to work there

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, still have stuff like that, but it's a good general.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Stuff's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just gotta have you over one day, feed you a tiny bit of alcohol and get the rest of the update on the, I'm dumb employee stories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing really good to cut note the alcohol.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I went out with some friends last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I had a drink, but I haven't been drinking right in drink last week at all, the week before that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know I could drive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can drive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I knew you left for like works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I went out and I had a few Caesar salad, but yeah, no, it's it's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm finding I'm working on that good balance and I'm feeling pretty good about it So nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, who's with the kids?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Christian.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh nice nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Peeley, do you want to talk about it or why did they last deep-lock this week?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We, we're going to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we talked a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like to talk a little bit about the the bill showcased this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've never walked the bill showcased normal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We normally wouldn't have watched them, but somebody suggested we watch it for spoilers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I actually the ending was hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was whoever wrote that episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just loaded.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's a situation where Evan writes it and then he voices it, or if he just keeps getting the credit because he's the voice actor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Either way, Evan, you're awesome and only you know, awesome job by everybody, because that was a really funny, well done video throughout the whole thing, even if you're not and no criticism to the builds, just great build.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But even if the build doesn't interest you, it was really fun to watch the whole thing

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[SPEAKER_00]: Watch the it's the and all the wolf one, whatever it's called.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So five and a month long build showcased pounds tactician by lexer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes Watch it right to the end all the way to the end right to the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It but don't skip to the end No, you got to watch the whole thing for talk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but they nailed it that whole last part was very good I didn't get the spoiler part except that something was shadow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that was it But we knew shadows coming so no, no, uh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even if they change the name to like Sunshadow, what's a Sunshadow called Reflection?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's it called like, you know, it's like you're like glaring the light from your phone and you like make a reflection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a reflection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though it's not a reflection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess it's reflecting light.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, you know, super reflection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What does that mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just the opposite of a shadow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's the tower.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, thanks for playing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for joining my field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Am I in it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, I think I'm running.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do not have any times you've nixed this game for me shattered.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I played it before you played it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just never got back to a member.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you didn't want to get back into it because you sent money on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sounds like a good reason to get back into it and just not spend more money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, maybe, but it's AFK.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, but then what I always find the, I get to the point where I'm like, well, because you have to leave it running, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you have to do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's just one of those things where it's working, you know, it's like doing laundry just you put it in you hit a couple buttons and that's good for 45 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just let it go work and while you're doing nothing like a robot vacuum I said my robot vacuum is idiot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I had a funny thought when you said that but also I have to say well two things actually I've been meaning to say this in episode 333 which is when we did the

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[SPEAKER_01]: up two of us so good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That felt really nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a really good feeling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a good so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to just say thank you because that episode was when we crossed the 750,000 downloads, which was very cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm immune to say thank you for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But wait, what's how many?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was sipping coffee and I do that my brain turns off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: say that again 750,000 downloads, which is very cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You nailed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm still like listening to November episodes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like I figured you were really glad to hear it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So but then people start like purple purple purple and your plan is prank on a guy with memory problems So I'm like which is funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's it funny?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was really funny Really there was no consistency to the purple So like what people say I hate it some people say I hate it some people are like what's Tyler's problem with purple Why's Tyler like purple so much?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's going on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had forgot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when we did it, when I did it, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You walked away to do some animal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did my thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You came back and I, I was going to try and get you to say, I went out of order to listen to this episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I tried to get you to get on to the word purple and it's so funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I, I said something about, oh, is it purple?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you just were like, no, and you kept going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, it's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, because I was talking about the project MTX.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, oh, is it so?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had, that was it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't, I didn't remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I didn't remember when I edited, edited it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the top goes out, and then I started seeing comments, and I, I'm like, oh my god, I totally forgot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I started seeing more comments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I tell Christina.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then for the good first half of the week, the two of us were like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dying laughing at the comments because it made it even funnier once you were it What what is happening like I don't know from a purple like what did we That's going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just to be in a delicious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I don't think you figured out the Justin being a dude's for quite a while because you kept being like I don't have my favorite was when you said something about that you don't have a Problem with purple like you're spent fact that purpose fine purpose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm just trying to like

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have a problem with people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what's going on?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm talking about loud.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not like defending anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, because I knew I wouldn't have said anything stupid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it would have been like, did I stop in the middle of a sentence and then start talking about something else?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like the wrong half of a sentence got together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a Simpson's news, uh, newscasting quote or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was fun, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't, it didn't take too long to figure out that you were behind it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just that I didn't realize it wasn't me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you to everybody for that because it gave my wife and I a very good laugh through the week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anything for Christina, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For Christina.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, week was all life's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pewies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pewies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pewies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And these build showcases that humor they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Keep it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that stuff is just absolutely hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: wolf, whatever it was called, mtx, really good by lecture, hilarious ending, but you have to watch every second to fully appreciate the ending.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, shadow, I don't remember, I mean, I guess the last times they actually talked about classes and stuff like that were talking years ago, the last time they actually talked about classes or names of ascendancies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and I remember there was even an episode where we were, like, guessing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: one day would all be and we only had a couple mixed up but like the names were out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So shadows coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, if they change the name from shadow to reflector, like I was trying to say, whatever the opposite of a shadow is, it's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever it's going to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they have a lot of ideas to try and generalize, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they've gone down a really good road with a tendency so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, just still changes that I would make.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't actually, I'm not interested in most or any of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think one of my criticisms in the power, not criticisms, but just my, how I, what interests me in the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's only like one to nodes that actually interest me in each ascendancy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's going to be so many and as they start coming out with those ideas, there's a good chance that the current existing themes for other ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: those are going to change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll come up with a cool idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's a lot of very unique skills as opposed to generic buffs that are locked behind these things, you know, like changing into demon form and that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, but I'm looking forward to the other ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The shadows never been a class that interested me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I've even ever played a shadow in my life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I might have once back when Costa Caro was really a big thing, and then 10 years after Costa Caro was a big thing, and then it just sucked, that's probably when I played it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, um, I've played with the fans then, not often, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, be your a great guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you definitely went a sassum often.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a number.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You do have a great top top right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, it looked forward to it, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they have lots of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we've we've harped this to death.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, what else is there to talk about when you only update your game three times a year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they haven't insane amount of stuff coming out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's really exciting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also news that we both are into is Israel's gauntlet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, good luck keeping up with us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, they price it starts either you know what for people or into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you get oh rewards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think like there's Chance to draws or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how it all works, but come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you have to reach level 50 to get a fur.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The buck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did they do still like weird stuff?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just looking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the idea, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, easiest out for me of a gauntlet, I don't even play the gauntlet, but act bosses and endgame point-related bosses inflict ruin with some abilities, seven stacks of ruin will cause you to instantly die.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It died as from ultimatum, and that is,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess maybe it's an ultimatum focus because some monster pack scenarios are replaced with ultimatum and it's holy crap That is like the easiest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, thank you for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, here's the thing the only way you play that and enjoy I mean, obviously there's people that have different preferences that nice, but like the only reason like you or I would play that is Already knowing it's like dumb not dumb and yeah Funway, but it's like you're going in and it's like okay We're gonna set up all the stupid stuff that can kill us so

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we're actually already used to all this stupid stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's add another stupid thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then let's add another stupid thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like ruin is something like when I'm actually playing the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, that's Redact.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I never played half of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Having that as an option when you're ascending.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then that being the best option.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, get

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, sending, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's just some stuff that's just too dumb.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when you're already like doing it for the sake of dumb, and I don't mean that in a derogatory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just the, you know, like, that's what you're playing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you and I were to play it, it would be like, we're probably not even going to get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I see because that is a hardcore, you know, instantly die on seven stacks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I don't want to focus on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I already forgot what I was going to say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So ignore my hate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, I hear you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, I have a miserable time, everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you all hear to good luck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a really good one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that Ziz and P, we always team up for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it looks like great rewards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If it's your thing and you can do it, we just, I won't be able to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to be one of the workers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The words modify as I can't even believe it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's still, there's sales on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we, there's not a whole lot of going on path of X already now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I guess that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish I could figure out where we were for path of X out to, sort of, release.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do we need to a private league soon?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What did we decide we were doing before after?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was before, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we do them one month in every league now, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think we're probably close to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Announcements.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey everyone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 327's private league is booked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh goodness.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're on 328 aren't we?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that what this is?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are we?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hold on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have to go to the two wiki's to find out because you can't go to the path of Excel website It's on the path of 328.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're on 328.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just know I'm talking like start dates and information Yeah, that's like oh, well, where does it couple like both games work contend them in and sync But you have to go to two different websites to find out all this different like it's just screen hopping sucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I assume that the last pui two one must have been a Christmas for December so that's

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[SPEAKER_01]: But is that me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It comes out in me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Next month.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still on this month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's your face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still on we did March 6th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah April 6th is dang it relate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's our planning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The people right at League Lodge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then just, well, we wouldn't want to do right now when you mugs later in Gauntletton.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, let's steal all the traffic from Gauntlet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what'll happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the three, uh, 12 people, the 12 people that are playing Gauntlet would actually come over to our press.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish you could see when the next league was coming though, or I don't even remember, I'd have to find the post and I can't remember what they said for when Path of Excel too's, I'm looking, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, Path of Excel, that means timeline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here we go, the end of April announcing our full plans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So towards the end of April, though, announce it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's got to be, so it's obviously some time in me, it's coming out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As long as we do it, it shouldn't be because the last league came out in December.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know the time doesn't make sense, but that's what they're saying is that they're going to announce at the end of April.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're full plans for 0.5, which if it's true?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Elite?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, well, January, February.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I'm counting this one because I used to make fun of already counted it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're right, February, February, March, April.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's when it's supposed to be releasing, but two weeks after the middle of April, because the Vatfader the Valculate should be coming to the end of April or the middle of April.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's four months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so even the end of April is two weeks late, and that's when they're announcing it Yep, so we're not gonna get one of those posts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like hey, we're on time

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're not so, but so anybody who wants to play our private league would be in a couple of weeks, probably, before the end of April, that's for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we don't want it to be around any puey too, hey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, hype is fine, not purely to launch and we definitely have the, I would say within the next week or two, we'll probably start ours, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably like mid April.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're going to play our private league somewhere on there, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, guaranteed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That most likely it's always going to be there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Guess what after Dark Listeners, guess what, we're doing tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe, I don't know, I feel like we're at that point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gadge will leak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, schedule it, put it in, and then it's there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we should put every day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll take a look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I plan ahead, just plan ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's my where's all my wife's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's changing everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Seriously, I step in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love my wife so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I step into the office and I hate her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what is there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks so nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got greenery.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's walking away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I pick a new color.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This, this episode, the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I love orange.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to write myself a note.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, you can talk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just thinking like, I don't care that there's stop talking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pushing more to like five months than instead of the four months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though we haven't made it a year yet of their

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[SPEAKER_01]: comment and commitment to every two months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's that day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty obvious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like, which, okay, here's why I'm confused.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that they were moving to this idea of we're going to we're going to release a release every four months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're not going to use the content to determine when we're doing a release.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to use the dates to return to determine the release.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that

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[SPEAKER_01]: So is that different like I don't care if it comes out of me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if it's five months It just doesn't make me a bit curious is this being driven by the content now is requiring them to take more time like what I I'm just it doesn't make sense to me if their commitment was every four months and then that was like a hard stop on what was finished would come out I wonder what the shift was for them

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I don't know, it'd be interesting to see what they do with this next release, but by their own admission, it's not going to be on that form on schedule.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not disinterest, I just, it's how ghosts, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know that we ever held a high expectation that they would be keeping to that every four months and basically every two months for two different games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it is right though, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was December 12th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm January, February, March, April.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's already April.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's supposed to be coming out next.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It should be coming out sometime next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they were keeping it to this.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, wait a minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there any way to see what this lead came out, 328?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How would you find that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's what I was joking around about the screen hopping now, on the path of XL1, which under leagues, and it says March 6.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now this league has been out for one month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're not going to, we're technically supposed to see anything so April, May, June, July.

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[SPEAKER_00]: July is when the next one comes out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So those could be the prior.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, late as late late is late, but I mean the whole idea of them switching to this schedule was so that they weren't late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, so that they weren't, you know off the beat or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a big whatever whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is not curious if they like you said if if the priority is now content again, as opposed to the consistency or if

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[SPEAKER_00]: if they're going with time is path of Excel one still coming out four months after path of Excel one's last patch right or are they pacing it out okay now that path two is late like I don't know how they should be up their team or they still like moving people around or it all teams based on the end of the video the goofy video we just saw it sounds like you know there's still moving stuff around but you have if path two is late to

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully this is the league where they come out with every single class and ascendancy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And all the end of the axe and all the skills and then the next release for launch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny that they say us, uh, the shadow because they don't actually list that a shadow is going to be one of their classes for Pewey to So the ones that are at least one of the agencies that on theirs is the Templar, the Marauder, the gladiator and the assassin, both of the four that are not currently have like actual classes yet on their research.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then the shadow, if that's the name they're using, maybe it's sort of an assassin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then does that mean that we're seeing maybe we're seeing the assassin and a sentence here, too, maybe?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, at some point, in this situation, this little video, I don't think that, I just think they know they're going to carry the old ascendancies over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, like, redone, but I don't see them actually changing any of those names, except I still completely forget that they changed one of the ranger or whatever ascendancy names in path one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like an explore or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember what it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it was like a wanderer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was a wanderer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I swear, is that wonder, is that not right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Something very tame, it wasn't very threatening, whatever it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Warden, Warden, there we go, I had the W. Oh, and then, but now, of course, there's the reliquarian, which is the second sign.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was just a little bit that's with the intention of change the relquarian changing dramatically every league to accommodate the league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, a lot of the four years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I went to the the

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just going to say I was just going to say with regards to that we're really query and I thought they were switching it just to make it differently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you got to think it was based on the lead, but anyway, what's a boat being 44 maybe I could have missed misinterpreted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just going to say how shallow and cheesy I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm 44 years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm on the Path of Exile one ascendancy class list and it has their little little part for everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I see all the pictures of everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, where do you get to that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you get to that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... just i just and the path one uh... wakey i just typed in a sentancy oh on the weekend then uh... scroll down to classes and just lists all the pictures and stuff so that's how i found warden but then uh... like i'm forty four years old and i'm still like yeah the real aquariums harder than the ascendant i'm like yeah out of the warden pathfinder and dead i i'd go for the warden

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then it's like you go up to the morodern.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the juggernaut berserker and chieftain is like, okay, while they're all psycho, but the jugs got the mask on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's mysterious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's do that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: 44.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I still, I still got it, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still shallow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's not shallow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thinking with your appendages is fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, yeah, it's all fun to think about this kind of stuff plan in the head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like our private league is coming up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I played last epox, speaking of not having time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I only remember this because it's in the notes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I must have done it like Saturday, Sunday or Monday or something, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I had time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was excited to play last epoch in my wife.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think some of the people that listened to us, but then also hang out in my wife's streams passed on that I was blaming her for like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who are hard drive management?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, remember?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I forget if it was the main episode or afterdark So if it was afterdark that narrows down the culprits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I'm pretty sure was afterdark You little scams because we only have two subscribers So I know it was one of the two of you and it probably wasn't just in his mother so

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[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, so all of a sudden it's like I could log in today and I'm like what's that a little like piece of paper there because I have the two games that I play just on the dashboards So just a quick click and it starts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she must have moved path of Excel from the C drive to the DJ Because it's going to be path to and Sims that are on the C and then everything else is on T. So she must have moved it over and I refreshed the computer upstairs

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so anyway, and I saved a ton of space.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was just like globs of goo everywhere probably inside because it was just like I installed the exact same stuff and I have and way more space still, you know, on the verge because it's so small, but anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the only in first game that I downloaded for the computer upstairs was last epoch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that where you started?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to play it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's the only where I'd like it was in between dinner and between, like, yeah, it was boiling water and cooking and flipping and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so what do you think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you add, did you not play it since we first did it like, when it first came off?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Think I've done what I've just done for three times, maybe?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what I've gotten farther.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I've seen end game and that whatever stage it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it was fully released.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the last time I played it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it all mushed together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't even remember if I hated or loved purple.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so anyway, but I do love orange.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it doesn't really look good, but it's a good selection with orange and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, right, purple.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually purple is a really good flavor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was orange and purple when you like you're a kid and you're like, well, do I want purple gum or orange gum?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mmm, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So last epoch, I'll run the subject.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I've hit and game before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was enjoying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was learning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was talking with Google about a bunch of different stuff like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I, you know, select these two skills because I don't know how the game works is counterintuitive, it doesn't make zero sense, like, you know, in Path of Exile, attacking investing into a tax speed, but I'm casting a spell like there's something I'm missing that makes no sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was talking to Googs a little bit about the different things and then I started playing and I'm like okay cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm enjoying it and I got bored really fast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you're just lovely little too, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what did you find bored?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's, so here's the thing, here's the thing, you know how I call Path of Excel one boring and Path of Excel two a lot more engaging and fun, but of course the game's not there yet, whereas Path one though it's there, I find the actual structure of the game very boring, like a statistic, I actually found last epoch, it looked like crab.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it played Lightcraft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, it was, it was basically the, I found that I got bored for the same reasons as Path of Excel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I didn't give it a fair chance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: an hour and a half total into the game and I'm going slow because I don't know anything about any of them clicking on every NPC because I don't know the difference between the exclamation marks or whatever like you know I'm I'm going slow not going through like someone who's familiar with the game so I'm only an hour and a half in but I actually found that I did not think about the game at all and I did not care and when I was playing it was board and I think it's because

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've played path 2 now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's much more engaged, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like I've said, like the game's not there yet, but in it's reactionary design of dodge role, right, of sprinting and of how skills are designed to get you in and out of combat, though those aren't necessarily skills.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I use it is a much more engaging experience and it is updated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and it is, oh, one other one, it and it looks really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, looks don't normally matter to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if the gameplay is already boring, nothing else is standing out to me, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I actually found that last epoch in Path of Excel were very similar, and just in terms of my engagement and how quickly my brain turns off, and what I'm doing with the enemy, so I didn't find combat engaging.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of those games where it was like Dragon Age 2 where enemies just show up out of nowhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's not a lot of planning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you'll be standing there and then all of a sudden enemies fly in that you couldn't be prepared for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still killing the museum enough, but that's not going to add to my ability to think things through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's again, making sure I'm basically just a stat stick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: or I can react quickly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not something that I'm planning ahead for and engaging in that way, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I actually found it to be super similar to Path of Excel one in terms of interest level and engagement, but way better for quality of life, way better quality of life, a very thoughtful game right off the bat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if I was to ever

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[SPEAKER_00]: be bored of Path of Excel, too, but still be in a loot drop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Crave, like, still want to play something ARPG loot-based?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would pick last debock over Path of Excel, one of the harp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that I've ever found last debock boring in the sense of, I'm just trying to, I'm trying to think through the engagement of when you're fighting enemies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do you find it boring?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to understand what is more engaging in PUE2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know if I'm, I can't put my finger on it either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I keep going back to dodge roll, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because again, I try, I'm not like puree of K, but I'm trying to not be button-mashy, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and then of course, I don't want these crazy skills.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's this leaps slam version skill and last deep up that takes you like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: All the way across the map it feels like it's huge and it's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to use that because of how much it moves the screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, I'm I'm doing a more What's though?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't think of it earlier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was speaking with somebody in my neighborhood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the word for like standing around and not doing much in life?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But easy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Standing around, um, said to, said to, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that is something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't say it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sedent, said to, tarot, said to, what the hell is the word?

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[SPEAKER_01]: God, now we just sound like two idiots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sedimentary, sediment, so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sedent, tarant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, said, said, said, what is the frickin' word?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just need to make sure it's the right definition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what did it is?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ceditary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ceditary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there we go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that the word of life?

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[SPEAKER_00]: For activity that involves a lot of sitting or very little physical exercise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, and then I look down at my belly and I'm like, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ceditary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why I couldn't think of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, okay, so but how does that what was so that's kind of like what my characters like I'm moving and I'm out of range, but I need to be able to react to the enemies and and when games add Like when I see a whole bunch of enemies in an arena right away, I'm like, okay, this is going to be crazy, but then I can start like Um, though dueler of the deep is a great example of

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[SPEAKER_00]: Knowing at a time, not necessarily the fight itself, but knowing at a time, you know there's going to be a crazy amount of ads in that fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm the kind of person where I like to just go from weakest to strongest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, I mean, I want to get rid of all the riff rafs, so there's nothing surprising, and then I can engage in the main experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You look at Count Gionor, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gregory, when you're fighting him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those wolves sure they are a surprise but you have a big tell that tells you when they're going to come and then you know how they're going to last and you can always prepare yourself for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is an engaging fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now granted, I've played an hour and a half of last epoch but I was finding as I'm walking through from one place to another there's just random crap that just like

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[SPEAKER_00]: gets thrown at you and that's not engaging.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're still dealing with the situation and the game balance seems to be balanced really well in terms of the skills they give you and the damage you can deal, the survivability you have like that's all balanced really well, which is one of the many reasons I would pick last epoch over path one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but in terms of your engagement question, it's all those little extra things that I can't plan ahead for a little bit in advance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel like no matter which character I'm playing, I would be doing anything different in that situation, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like my build is static.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because of how the game interacts with the care.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does that make sense or not really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm trying to, like, and I just, I feel like I, I don't see the engaging part yet in Pooey 2 at least in a different way than I do from Pooey 1 or last C-pop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When I load up the game, I'm trying to make my guy strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to kill stuff as fast as I can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to pick up the loot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only time that I ever find things at an engaging level when it comes to fighting mobs is bosses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think last debock is actually quite good at its tells.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a little bit cartoony, but I actually prefer that over none.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just all of a sudden, there's a slam that you were supposed to notice, like, oh, shit, he raised his arm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm not playing Dark Souls.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't, that's not for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think like their tells are quite good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't find, I don't know that I've noticed the normal like pack to pack.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I've ever found them engaging.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, at least not in the way that you're saying, like for me, I go pack to pack and I want them to die as fast as I can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're talking about past two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: all of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In all of them, when I'm going packed to pack, I'm not looking for that rare or that whenever whatever that thing is to be engaged in the sense that I actually need to understand what is their modifier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do I need to counter that modifier?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I just feel it the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of them are too quick for something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's an ARPG style, but I think the bosses are really cool for that because then you're learning the bosses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, for me, last epoch, the process of going through the campaign, then the end game is just the map into some that they have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that I've ever felt engagement from a packed-to-pack sort of experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I just don't know that I've ever cared that much about, oh, what does...

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the idea is cool, but it's very...

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think any of them do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where you're having to think as you go into a fight, unless it's a boss fight,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Understand to do it multiple times and figure it out see for me I've actually find it very different in path to and maybe that's just because I'm not doing the strongest of builds But like you get those guys in the Dune buildings underground and then they put their torch on the ground and you know fires gonna come And you're like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh crap, I have so little fire res right now because I'm leveling and you're desperately trying to get behind the guy right we get those big gollums that like the stone ones and like the valve kind of areas and they do they have these huge smashes right or in when you're going and like you that we hate them but what are those like

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[SPEAKER_00]: We hated them so much at the beginning and they really had to tone them down a million times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't know the water, they show like this water.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like the riverhags.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like you're interacting and dealing with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're trying to get away from it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're trying to get to them quickly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You look at some of in those same kind of areas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of my and style beefy characters, they're big, they have swords, they have the plum in their hair and they will jump at you like crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know if any of those are magic, you're like, okay, they are my priority even over the riverhags, we got to deal with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I find my experience in path to throughout the leveling process, like I think a lot of the bosses are, I like and a lot of the bosses in path to I don't like that can happen, that can

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[SPEAKER_00]: but I find the actual process of mapping a lot more engaging because there are these, there's still like stupid stuff that happens, but there's a lot of recognition for a base type and what it can do to you based on your strengths and weaknesses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still think path 2 and path 1 have really crappy loot situations that really need

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[SPEAKER_00]: way more attention than they've been getting to help enhance that process for sure, but I think just in terms of how gameplay works, how slow it is, maybe that's just for me, and then how I react to certain base types, I find it engaging on a regular basis.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know what's weird?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just as you were talking, because I don't have people listening, just remember, we're just two buds talking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like I've come him with a prepared essay for the bait or anything like

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is it about the game that you find boring and what is it about the game you find engaging?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like I don't know but I kind of do you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, um, but funny enough, I think one of the things is just Dodgerl but not just Dodgerl like when you're making a game and it has Dodgerl, you're making your bosses and their skills also revolve around the fact that the user has Dodgerl and so there's more to

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[SPEAKER_00]: it then simply the ability to dash, like in last e-pock, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I actually find just when I'm fighting the crowbell, when I'm fighting and going through bosses in the campaign, dodge roll is something I'm... Why do you kind of dodge roll in the regular basis?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it is because of the speed of it, like it's faster to begin slow at the end, so it's not actually just a pure evasive maneuver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's something that you have to strategically time because it's only at the beginning of your dodge that you're really getting the help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just how I feel, but when you talk about last epoch, though, you kind of encourage me to start playing more, right, basically, maybe I'll like force myself to choose that instead of one of the pet two path games until the PL comes out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I mean, I just think last epoch is a very fun game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, I definitely burned out once I got to the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to, I think I'm going to try and play it again with you, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you are going to play it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why don't you do that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's schedule some times for some co-op.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, like, when you were talking about the engaging part on PUE2, I think that there was maybe a part that I can understand where you're experiencing that I remember early on when you're like learning these mob types and how they attack and what they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like at a certain point, though, and this could just be the difference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just that maybe you're just playing it a little bit slower or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like those mob types become irrelevant for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At a certain point, it doesn't matter that the guy puts down the thing and then is going to blow fire because I'm going to make sure that my build is going to kill him before he does any of that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it loses some of the engagement point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, definitely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not sure if Path of Excel is trying to go in that direction where you're eventually clearing mobs or if they're kind of slow it down and make it so that every encounter matters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, once you get to that point,

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[SPEAKER_00]: then it's just what do we do for bosses and what do we do for loop right and then so i'm not at that point in any of the games um but i can tell you the process going through it two were boring one was good but my um i'm not like off of last epoch like i'll enjoy the PL when we play it and when i'm in the mood for it and if i force myself to play last epoch i'll be fine like i can do it especially if you and i are playing

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[SPEAKER_00]: My biggest struggle with Lassie Pomp is actually the story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the people, the NPCs, the like trying to understand what's happening in an ARPG that's as big as Lassie Pocker Path of Exile, I can't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then knowing I don't actually want to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just tell me which ones I need to go talk to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do I move forward?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me do the endgame stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I find their hubs too convoluted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's too many different people you could talk to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And especially when I was first starting, I had no idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do I do with these items that I'm picking them up and am I selling them?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do I need?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do I need to do with this stuff?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I struggle with that part.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand why there's this focus on making us care.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's as much as he has a long history of users going through towns, skipping all that crap, like not even clicking on people until they've got the item and bring it back for the Questboard Word, they even had a QOL thing like five, whatever years ago, where

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[SPEAKER_00]: you didn't even have to listen to everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like click out in your gun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like even helping us along the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't understand why like last epoch or an even empathic act.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're so bad for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, isn't even at like screen hopping or the screen jitters when it goes between multiple people?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't I don't get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like why why why?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why doesn't

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[SPEAKER_00]: a developer, maybe there's this in other games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't play the other games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't know the exist, but why don't they just like, okay, I'm in town, and I'm like, there's like a reward button or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get the options for everything that I have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if I want the lore, I'll go click.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I'm just here for the loot in the combat, okay, give me that button, like, or if I go like into the next

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's got to be because that way they've built a story around why the game exists, especially so that you can keep it long-term, so that they can build on what that story is, and then feel like there's a direction for where it's going versus just, here's a game where you literally just drop map to map to map, I don't know, I mean, I don't get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not into the story stuff, but I imagine it has to be to try and just like that's the point of the game and how to move forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it, but like it's not like you're making the game for five-year-olds either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm intentionally skipping all this dialogue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure they're like, it's tedious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I want to all go read the book, but most of the time I just want to watch the movie,

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[SPEAKER_01]: How did you, did you play on keyboard or not controller?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I played keyboard at most.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gameplay is fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I tried it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're menu system, but you can swap between, I think, on the fly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you can and I went to mouse and keyboard when it came to my menu stuff because it was so like once you get used to it it's fine but there's no common sense to it like some screens only the D pad work some screens only the left analog stick work some screens you it like it there's no rhyme or reason to when there's no consistency to it

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if a secondary, you know, directional pad, whether it be the left analog or the D pad, whatever that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we're talking last D pocket, whenever a secondary direction pad would be needed, it wasn't okay now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to use the D pad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was just so inconsistent that I was like, why does the screen not work?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it glitchy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is my computer freezing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, it's this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you have to go

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[SPEAKER_00]: which is surprising, because the game's been out a long time, and they've done controller support for a long time now, as far as I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they have had controller for quite a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I tried it because I remember somebody telling us that the swap between the two was quite good, and so I tried it just to see how that was, but I think that I played it primarily on keyboard and mouse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I definitely appreciate the amount of stuff you can change.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like their options are pretty substantial.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you could even change the health bars of the, of like, you're gonna change the color of my health bar of my character, the color of the health, the color of the health bar of my allies, the color of the health bar of my enemies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Immediately, I'm green enemies, red allies blue didn't even have to play the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you can do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Couldn't wait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love the bubble numbers, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The combat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's the bubble numbers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People call it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it looks stupid, but I still like it because I like seeing it through the change in game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like it even in the tower.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like I love the bubble, bubble numbers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So uh, but there was just so many.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll obviously the end game filter is fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't working for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I wanted it to make minion stuff uh, something with the minion effects.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Show up in a certain color and it wasn't doing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I feel like that's going to work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's gotta be something up with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, I'm sure it does, I'm sure I was doing something wrong, but either way they actually have in-game filter stuff right off the bat when it's introducing it to you, it says you can download one, you can use default one, you can have these rules here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was, and it's mind-boggling to me, that there are loot-based games that don't have that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, even if six items dropped per map, if I don't want, if I'm not ever going to touch bow and arrows, I don't want to see them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just mind-boggling to me that there are ARP loop-based ARPGs out there that don't have an in-game filter system, especially because the database is already there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know other loop-based RPGs that, like, I don't know, we play, I haven't played to see if they have loop filters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only one I could think of, and it's on the RPG is Borderlands, where you get tons of loop drops, but there was no filter, but that was in the RPG.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't know if I've played other RPGs, they're better than ours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Loot in that game, though, doesn't hurt the experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The loot in a top-down ARPG does, like you need to have screen clarity for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't just have because you need to survive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In Borderlands, it's designed to be explosive and almost only for bosses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Borderlands is turned into a bossing only, okay, where are these,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's that massive explosion you're looking for the one or two, um, it's not an all the time thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but something like even Torx Lite I don't remember what it has I haven't played Torx Lite in forever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I almost find never playing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's actually the game that got me into pui.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So last week you were asking I forget which episode it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But last week you were asking what got me?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nah, forget.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I remember path one, but I just wasn't there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I was looking for that very one specific.

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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of build to scratch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And path one couldn't do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I joined.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then I stopped playing because I kept looking around and then it ended up being torchlight that would scratch this very specific archetype that I was looking to play in a loom-based game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was like just like a bow and arrow character that I could just like users like a machine gun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that was it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember what it was, but whatever it was Torchlight let me do that almost immediately and it was but it scratched that itch and then once that itch was done P.O.E.

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[SPEAKER_00]: looked really good because I wasn't looking for something specific.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just looking for a general group of days to game after that, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you make him ask you crazy insanity was gone?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, primalists and I'm going with, um, I'm going to do either the bear or the sprigons.

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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just gonna do like I like that, you know, like Reaper style and path one where I just got that got one or two buddies with me I don't need the big army.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want our two buddies that are good feeling it out tanky and There's a really good synergy in last epoch with those things like I'm improving strength But strength also and it shows you strength improves this on this minion right but strength also Works for you too, and so that the game is very clear with

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[SPEAKER_00]: improvements and damage improvements.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's going to happen when it levels up, it is really, really good for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish Path 2 did more of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Path 2 is already falling into the path one thing where they're leaving details behind and just assuming people are figuring it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But one thing I don't like is this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: restricted leveling system that many, many, many, many, many, many, basically many non-path of Excel leveling systems are like where you have to have a certain amount of points allocated here to spread out to here and to there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're like, well, no, because like I have to do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is how I have to play this tree and okay, so I'm going for this skill in this skill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I have to do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas in path one, I can pick any path in any tree or path two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I think you should treat them more like travel nodes because you have to do that in path one and path two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And but last you buck doesn't do that, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're you're you're you're not going stat nodes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going you're just training and yeah, so

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it, but then still there's only one or two that I'm excited for and that's a lot of travel nodes to get to these things that aren't that maybe I'm just unlocking a skill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I feel like I'm doing a lot less when and again, I'm only an hour and a half in, but I'm looking ahead, right, I see okay here are my skills here are the skills that I get in the skills that I've unlocked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I unlock the bear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, look, I'm looking at the bear skills, the wolf skills, what I get as the primalist or the whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, okay, like I'm planning ahead, trying to see these things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure I can respeck so I can just do the bear minimum once I've unlocked in a level 30 or 40 stuff and then I can pummel them into there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just looking

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[SPEAKER_00]: plan in ahead, and I'm like, okay, it's just not as exciting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That being said, randomly people say that the path to tree is a lot less exciting than the path one tree into me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're identical.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're different, but I mean, they have the same level of interest value and power to me, whereas other people completely disagree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to put more time into it, don't want to ramble, but I'm going to put more time into it and we'll see and it'll be nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I suppose to do if we can, because then I come trying to get to one and a half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't know sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll probably go to the camera side of the player and that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[UNKNOWN]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would like to try it again because I put a lot when I last played it, but I don't know if I haven't touched it since I don't think it's been changed, but I found it fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually enjoyed trying to plan out my trees in there and then it's adjusting a new tree for your skills as well, like I found that quite fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good, good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm looking forward to getting in a crafting too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's something that I haven't started in the game yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, of course, I definitely need to give it a shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, you know, didn't hold my interest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think about it because it didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I struggled with it in the early stages because I just, I didn't enjoy it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't feel like I was doing much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like I was hoping things would die.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I felt like I was too much dancing around trying not to die myself, but I felt that if it got a lot better I really enjoyed the end game the process of like I think it's called corruption how you're cropped in these areas and then you're having to build up the next one Yeah, I had fun when I was doing it, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Last thing I'll say about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looked worse than PathVixL one does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You were nothing PathVixL.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you mean just like I loaded it up and I'm like, did I like, you know, like on Xbox, you can download like for games, you can download the Xbox one version or you can download the Xbox X and S version.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I for a moment because, you know, I'm primarily console for a moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks really bad, and I download the Xbox One version, instead of the end, and I'm like, oh no, I'm on PC, like I can only download one version.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, do you think you're partially comparing it to POE 2 though, because, like, just because POE 2 looks way better than both of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I thought last week, it's just more cartoony, but like, a pad of XL1 actually never gives you a really great, like, shot of who your character is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Besides, you know, like, you know what I mean, you can scroll in to see them,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I totally agree, but yeah, that's kind of the problem though, like if I don't know what the circumstance was, but let's say you're frustrated with Path of Excel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You start your own ARPG experience that you want to have way more QOL with and you call it last to you, Paul, can let's say that's how the game started.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you start doing that and you make, you know, you primarily it's because you're breaking away from Path 1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, GGG can still do whatever improvements they want to Path 1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they could

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[SPEAKER_00]: In theory, do all the stuff that you now are broken away to do, they could start doing that in past one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now you have last epoch, and okay, cool, but now your competitor decides to make a sequel, and is spending butt loads of money on a new engine, new everything, new looks.

01:00:04.761 --> 01:00:08.348
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, now your game looks outdated, no matter how much work you've put into it, right?

01:00:08.328 --> 01:00:19.045
[SPEAKER_00]: So I still think the answer we've seen to path 2, but I have path 2, so it's fair comparison, even though they probably aren't planning on ever making a sequel anytime soon, right?

01:00:19.465 --> 01:00:33.627
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like you have a benefit in an ARPG of not needing to be like the best looking, like I think Path of Excel 2's taking advantage of the fact that they can and that they've got the engine that can handle it now, but like for me, I can still go back and play Diablo 2.

01:00:33.607 --> 01:00:56.695
[SPEAKER_01]: And I like it, but I understand that like I was talking with my oldest who tried it and you know, it's it there's he doesn't have the nostalgia hit a flanned Diablo 2 so it's hard for him to get into it because of the look and style.

01:00:56.675 --> 01:00:59.379
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it's not like the the graphics.

01:00:59.479 --> 01:01:08.251
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I do appreciate in pui too, but my favorite part of pui too is being in my inventory and seeing my character 100% wise like But for my favorite part.

01:01:08.772 --> 01:01:09.833
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and funny enough.

01:01:09.854 --> 01:01:22.311
[SPEAKER_00]: We were we were making fun of the The fan art from last week covering very little well covers very little and past two to great bring it on

01:01:23.742 --> 01:01:25.748
[SPEAKER_00]: ready for the needs to get to the tattoos.

01:01:25.768 --> 01:01:27.875
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but you bring up a good point and I agree with you.

01:01:28.537 --> 01:01:29.561
[SPEAKER_00]: Looks mean nothing.

01:01:29.581 --> 01:01:35.018
[SPEAKER_00]: It could honestly look like trash because we are playing despite the fact that I'm cutting down the

01:01:35.167 --> 01:01:37.550
[SPEAKER_00]: lack of engagement and I'm just a data stick.

01:01:37.850 --> 01:01:38.732
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what you're playing for.

01:01:38.772 --> 01:01:39.873
[SPEAKER_00]: You want the better stats.

01:01:39.893 --> 01:01:42.036
[SPEAKER_00]: So you get that loot with that text based here.

01:01:42.096 --> 01:01:43.237
[SPEAKER_00]: Are your new stats?

01:01:43.257 --> 01:01:45.721
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, yes, sweet who cares if the game looks crappy.

01:01:45.761 --> 01:01:50.046
[SPEAKER_00]: But at the end of the game, at the end of the day, for some reason that stood out to me when I heard less.

01:01:50.266 --> 01:01:52.329
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't change my involvement with the game.

01:01:52.429 --> 01:01:53.631
[SPEAKER_00]: So I should point that out.

01:01:53.651 --> 01:01:55.453
[SPEAKER_00]: You do bring up a good point that I agree with.

01:01:55.433 --> 01:02:00.141
[SPEAKER_01]: I think last year's talk, you can last e-book, you can go, like, oh, it doesn't look as good.

01:02:00.561 --> 01:02:04.708
[SPEAKER_01]: And the only reason for it is because I don't actually think that's in-game.

01:02:04.989 --> 01:02:07.333
[SPEAKER_01]: For me, at least, it's the character selection.

01:02:07.353 --> 01:02:13.803
[SPEAKER_01]: When you're picking your character, because you're seeing a 3D version of your character with their gear.

01:02:14.344 --> 01:02:21.576
[SPEAKER_01]: And for me, now comparing that to BOE2, it's nowhere close, but back when last e-book came out compared to BOE1,

01:02:21.556 --> 01:02:29.312
[SPEAKER_01]: I was cool, like I got a cool version of a bigger site of my character than I would have been able to do in Puy1.

01:02:30.114 --> 01:02:42.079
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, it's funny because for me, I actually still care about it even though I say I don't like the E-Armer ES bases in Path 1, the chess pieces.

01:02:42.059 --> 01:02:44.082
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of them look really stupid.

01:02:44.202 --> 01:02:44.883
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like them.

01:02:44.903 --> 01:02:45.944
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just personal thing.

01:02:45.964 --> 01:02:47.105
[SPEAKER_00]: It's no Christmas.

01:02:47.346 --> 01:02:49.188
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like how they look, but there's one.

01:02:49.268 --> 01:02:51.711
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's the the saintly chain mail.

01:02:51.731 --> 01:02:53.033
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it doesn't forget which one it is.

01:02:53.634 --> 01:02:54.775
[SPEAKER_00]: I love how it looks.

01:02:54.975 --> 01:03:07.031
[SPEAKER_00]: So in my filters just for me I make that one stand out way more than the others just because you don't get a good view of your character But that really stands out and I always every time I see my cell phone like right.

01:03:07.331 --> 01:03:10.395
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's got the there's a light part to the armors and that

01:03:10.375 --> 01:03:19.248
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I describe it, but anyway, I'm actually a picture, but either way, it, like, I'd be like, like, how I look in town and I wouldn't wear any mtx on that.

01:03:19.268 --> 01:03:23.033
[SPEAKER_00]: I would just do skill mtx, I would do character mtx because I wanted to see that.

01:03:23.093 --> 01:03:33.568
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, looking forward to seeing more of that stuff come out as more base types and everything comes out and they start figuring out their loot system.

01:03:33.668 --> 01:03:35.010
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking for it.

01:03:35.611 --> 01:03:37.974
[SPEAKER_00]: Won't be wearing the mtx that I buy, GG.

01:03:38.034 --> 01:03:40.197
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I've worn any, yeah,

01:03:40.177 --> 01:03:46.923
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I've used the MTX just for portals because they're fun, but I don't think I've tried actually any of Armour MTX yet.

01:03:46.943 --> 01:03:49.866
[SPEAKER_01]: I still like seeing what it looks like, like how it was dropped.

01:03:50.146 --> 01:03:55.151
[SPEAKER_01]: What does the look the game, but PWE2 is so much easier to experience that than PWE1.

01:03:55.692 --> 01:03:57.934
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I see all the time in PWE2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And PWE1, it's not often where I'm like scrolling to get my character, you know, so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, all right, well, maybe we'll find some down to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, uh, Plain AOE tonight if you're up for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, y'all, let's see how things go for after Dark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Strap this up, though, forever, exiled, 339, I'm just naked, tags.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm Tyler Recker of Days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Patrons will catch you, and after dark everybody else, 340 next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whew, we'll see you there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see you there.

01:04:25.875 --> 01:04:27.597
[SPEAKER_01]: Who boy, what do we got?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a website forever, exiled.com.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a very fun discord pop in there, say hello.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Patreon, in other ways, support the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll find them down below as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have a good week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Happy Easter.