ExileCon Predictions

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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to ForeverX Out, I'm Justin aka tags An amtiler record of days Episode 331 of our podcast together Uh yeah, February 6th Happy February 6th No special day, but you know Well, got dude, groundhog day

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[SPEAKER_00]: wasn't that earlier in the week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, but we don't have a podcast every day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, celebrate the groundhog day this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Big one of the challenges ever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: One of the best days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a really good one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Big shout to our patrons.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks everybody who resubbed up this week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Get to access to afterdark is our podcast after the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we just keep rocking and rolling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: segue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember that from without.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, keep me listening when she's weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's rad and duties.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember Josh that one year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was in the hockey pool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Want it with his team right there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's called.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, hmm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, happy or thank you patrons and happy Groundhog Day of the week January 6th February 6th It is how's your week, but dude?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's that's good segue to Lawn Talk because we didn't have any snow this year and normally we can't hear our snow We could still we could still

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're already in the first week of February.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Valentine's Day's like a week away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've forgotten that I was married like this whole year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got a lot of makeup to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably not going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a week away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just best to forget it and move on to next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with, like, normally we'd get like our Arctic winds, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And long, long-term listeners will know every couple of, they're pure tourists coming off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it's like, we'll get it for a week of this crazy, crisp Arctic wind, and didn't get one of them this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We, I mean, we had quite a few atmospheric rivers that that were pretty intense,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the valley flooded again, but we had no snow not at not hints of snow it barely got to zero degrees at night and there were as far as I can remember no wind storms

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[SPEAKER_00]: and all of a sudden, it's the first week of February and it's 13 degrees.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like my kids have actually 13.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going skating today with their school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're going in like, they're like, do I have to wear pants today?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, yeah, because you're going to the skating ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise, it'd be fine with shorts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean like it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway is actually 13.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was still lower than that though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean it's still a little frosty on this is like my favorite like cold but sunny Yeah, that is like my favorite ever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah agreed and so I I don't know like I turned off my taps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's everybody doesn't should but

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[SPEAKER_00]: didn't need to in retrospect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we might be moaner lawns in a couple of weeks already looks like it needs to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's already getting, like it's already growing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my Heather the Heather around the house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's the lizard vibrant with color.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The bees are going crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway happy spring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If nobody's seen the movie Groundhog Day with Bill Murray,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't be shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Please do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If there's anything you do wonder that rock of yours watch that movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and it is one of a bug.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no money here, just runs and veers, it's like a story of the serpentine, and then the fake turrets, of course, it's like watching Seinfeld act in his own show and burst out laughing in the middle of like a serious joke or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was that's what the threats one looks like to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How's your week?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a good week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Justin, thank you for asking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I played a butt load of Path of Exile.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, some mandatory, some for fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, um, oh yeah, but it was all great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a really good time and played lots with my wife in Path of Exile.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Had some medical appointments that I've been waiting for a long time to happen, so that was really nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anything out of them positive or just a direction or in progress.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good progress.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, our medical system, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You wait six months for an appointment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll set you up with us and you have to wait another month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Six months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like you want to deal with one issue at a time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to like do too much at once, only because if there is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: an issue or result or a change in your situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to know what change you did there encouraged the health.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you have to do one thing at a time but sometimes that process is six to nine months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So six to nine months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now six to nine months and so it was good and the kids are good but we have violets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're coming up for Sunny Hill appointments coming up like 10 days away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if it'll be done by the next podcast or not, but kind of nervous because we haven't talked to her about why the appointments are happening or what they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we've come up with a couple of ways that we want to like we want to bring it up with her ahead of time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If she's diagnosed with anything, we don't want it to be like, oh, I had no, you know, like a

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[SPEAKER_00]: she's been going through a lot, just, you know, puberty in school and she's not doing sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we just discovered that she was getting made fun of a lot because schools are a little bit more inclusive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These just like three need to break.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oliver had a skittleball game every day and there's a kid in a motorized wheelchair in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and you can only use one of his hands and he could barely use his other and you know can't call for the ball or anything like that but they found a way to include him okay which was really cool and it's like there's so they they made special rules around them but they made it as competitive and fun for everyone else is possible and I just like that never in our life would have happened when we were in the 90s where when we were in high school like they just wouldn't like either make the team or you don't and if you don't make the team well that's just like

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[SPEAKER_00]: you're good at something else, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it was really awesome to see that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know the other schools that our kids go to are being just as inclusive and trying really hard, and you can only be in so many places at once, but we just discovered this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know my daughter does this all the time here, but I didn't know she did this in public.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll just just

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[SPEAKER_00]: in her Lala land and she's pretending, but acting it out and totally out loud, just on the play ground in the, just doing her thing on the park right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, so it's like if some if she's running from someone in her mind, she's like screaming and yelling and looking back terrified or if like she's getting like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, beaten up in a mind in the real or serious rescuing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So people see her doing this and of course, they have their comments about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just discovered that was happening this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That wasn't even on any of the applications going to going to Sunny Hill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But just for

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't you talk to anybody?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, that's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, not yet, but it's, we just discovered it and it also, like, I'm totally fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's nothing wrong with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, yeah, as long as we've been getting aggressive in, of course, of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one thing that, um, it's, obviously it's tough as a parent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nor for kids getting picked on or not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But another thing that it's important to remind myself of and of course, uh, my wife as well is that kids get made fun of no matter what.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So whether it's for something that's standing out or something that you know everyone also get made fun of for as well like at the end of the day it's important to not saying you don't stand like I'm not getting into the nuances of like how to deal with it but it's important to know how to deal with it as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just because she's getting of you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but just because it's happening doesn't mean it's a red flag.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just one of the

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[SPEAKER_00]: or need to be aware of, like, if I didn't know that and then we go through this whole process of, um, figuring out what level of, I don't even know if levels the right word, but what kind of autism she has and we didn't even know that, like, who knows, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, what I'm really looking forward to with so there's two appointments we have in the next couple weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of them is

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[SPEAKER_00]: She'll be staying home from school for it even though she's only going to be a small part of it, but it'll be about a two hour video conference with Erin and I and then the doctor and then the next day we drive out to Van and Violet's got a one hour appointment just on her own.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not invited.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't even know if we're allowed in the waiting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I can't wait to find out like I

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what kind of feedback we get from that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What they normally give, but I will have a thousand questions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want the video copy of that interview.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to know what she entered.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a adult just asking her questions about just off into the hour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that's every kid's dream on the planet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The amount of stuff they could talk about, oh man, so anyway, it's going to be a really good week this week, and Erin and I are pretty confident and comfortable with the kind of the way we want to bring it up with her, sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not make it emotional.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's been very emotional lately with

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[SPEAKER_00]: like what I was talking about, that was the whole point I brought that up not for the artistic side, but for the getting made fun of sides, so there's been a lot of emotions when coming home and then puberty and then her birthday's coming up and there's a lot of stuff been well yeah we just want to be and I don't it's it's tough to know how she's going to take it it's always a 50-50 chance

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be very emotional, but very happy or very traumatized, so that's just been it's been a it's been a good week in the Tyler and Aaron house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are we wearing the same shirt?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay hang on stand close.

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[SPEAKER_00]: mine's covered in cat and you know what I thought my name is diver and cooler but is yours from old navy no year I don't know what it's from I have no idea what it's not old navy hang on I don't know my theory clearly old navy might old navy is really bright it is really bright yeah but then you have a football I think it's like a koala something is a koala on it I don't know what it is

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's comfortable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's possible.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but it's just oh guys comparing sure Does it hide your flap as well as mine?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh man good times good times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, it's been a really really good week and I'm looking forward to the weeks to come.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How was your week?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, my, we, it was, it was, um, so I, I think we talked last week and I was like, I just have to get through this weekend because last weekend we were rolling out, uh, our final sort of step in this new system and.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We recorded Friday and on Saturday, I had a meeting because everything was going live Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I was going to be, I knew I was going to be up early on Sunday, like 2 a.m.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was rolling, so I knew I was going to get up early on Sunday to make sure everything was and working, everything was fine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Saturday, I have a meeting with one of the people on our team.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and she very emotionally brings up the fact that there's something wrong and that it's chaos and it's going to be the end of the world.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm stressed trying to think like how I'm going to fix this, I'm on with one of our providers trying to figure out what we're going to do because we can't screw everything up for going live the next day.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm working through it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought I was having hard attack.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I thought my heart is going to come out of my chest.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't breathe.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't talk like I went late down on my bed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I was like I have to calm down.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I'm just it's not going well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I put the heart because I check my part blood pressure every morning.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's my blood pressure is good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They always asked me when I go in for stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was 166 over 168 over 110.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, if that thing was red, I've never had a red before.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Warning, warning.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so, yeah, it was a rough start to the week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I also got, it was a good opportunity for me to just re-pock to myself and just, uh,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm normally a pretty good person of I don't give a fuck like we'll do what has to get done, but I'm it's not gonna bother me and I had not been like that for a while so that I'm just sort of working my way back into that mindset of it'll be fine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Stop worrying about it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's it's hard when you have like 200 people.

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[SPEAKER_03]: that rely on that change happening and everything working properly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was thinking of myself like how many people were going to bed that night going like not even thinking about wasn't even a thought and my being one like I can't breathe I can't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it was a rough start to the week and then as the week went on it was actually it's been good it's been really it's been insanely busy it's been a lot of driving around I haven't had any free time at all all week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: but it's at least positive like it's feedback's been great like we're working now into this new system and everybody seems to be most people seem to be quite happy so yeah it's um i i didn't get to do anything really like i hang out with the kids i did as much as i could because i was getting home late i was up early so it wasn't i just basically wanted to hang out with them check out how their day was and then

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[SPEAKER_03]: We start watching follow, so we're working on ways to find all out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Episode came out, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think we only have two left.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think we only have two episodes left of it, but I'd so fun to watch.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I really did.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I really do quite enjoy it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Such a well-made show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was fun actually seeing some of the things that you talked about, like, that you would only really understand because you played the game, but then I'm watching it with my wife who's totally into it, and she's never played the game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's kind of fun, uh, what, what, watching through that with her, and then we've been watching the Goldbergs with Logan.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So as much as I could, I was trying to just show all what the 80s and 90s were like.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there are so many scenes in there that I was laughing at them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, that is like, what your grandma was like, that was my mom.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, just some of the sweaters she wore and just some of the ways it's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's so fun to watch.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, but yeah, just trying as much as I can to chill with them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I didn't get time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I did not have time to, I've needed started our privately yet.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we are probably there because I was so stressed about coming onto my computer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think I told you this because my bottom monitor here is was just no pads.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I had through the last 10 months of just working through systems, trying to figure things out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I remember like I switched my computer while back because I lost all that work.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So since then, it's Windows 11, so I don't, I'm not as worried about it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I had so many no pads on my screen that it was stressing me out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Every time I come to the computer I was like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't enjoy my time on the computer, so I've had a good talk with Kristina after everything went sideways on the Saturday, so she helped give me some ideas for how to manage all that and I'm not going to lie to, we have to send you a picture on Discord.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And don't share it, obviously, because the contents within it is not something I would want somebody else to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But she sends me pictures like this all the time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I had Chad GBT helped me build a track or for all of our stuff that was going on, so that I could actually start getting it into a spot where I could keep track of what was happening and what needed to be taken care of.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my God, did it ever feel so much better once I had to finish it?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've got rid of all of my no-pads on my screen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's like so much of this, but color coded with drop-down things.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know you know how to do it all, but for me that's I'm not a sheets person, but an Excel person.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, it was it was a it was a good week once it got rolling, but it was a good brutal week to get started.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And did it launch okay for people like a lot just telling you after all the shit that happened on the Saturday We woke up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I got on with our provider Sunday morning to had all fixed before it even rolled out for any of our company Go so it was all fixed fine like everything worked, but it's just I was I was so stressed to try and make sure that this didn't mess up And then to find out the day before I was so mad like I was Lived that somebody was telling me that the day before when they had plenty of time to have you know

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[SPEAKER_03]: But whatever, in the end, everything was all good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was like the front line warrior who's dragging is half corpse of a, you know, a friend on the front line and then everybody's at home just

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[SPEAKER_00]: that's on TV.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's at least all moved forward now and everybody's happy and well, happy-ish.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I didn't I didn't really do much fun stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I besides hanging out with the kids, which is fun They had many silver quite a few times which is fun too, but yeah, it's just hanging out when I can and then just working

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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't wait for that to slow down a tiny bit, so yeah, I believe some of those talks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's something I'm very impressed with you as your character, you're able to take step back, take a look at yourself objectively and be willing to make a change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That kind of humility is wonderful to see in people and we'll have some time to

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[SPEAKER_03]: Of course.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you do a very good job at it, so good job.

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[SPEAKER_03]: People don't die, so that's positive.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Are private leagues almost done?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: They can go finish after this weekend, probably.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But first I'd like to apologize to our newest patron.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Casey, we, well, not, not our newest patron, but our newest one that is, um, that before we already set this one up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Possibly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Casey, so if you already have this, you can ignore it, but about when you sign up for patron, you can choose to include or exclude your address.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, I don't mean to exclude anybody that chose not to include their address, but for those that do, your, your card is coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if it's a second card,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're so welcome, but if it's your first card, I'd like to pause.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a little bit of mixups, but the envelope's recently and I've also been waiting for a lot of envelope

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do we ever thanks to Justin ordering?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if he might come to somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What if we did it this way?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, took two and closed it on the card.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to feel it on the card, I want to feel it on the card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, welcome to Justin's mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's finally working.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, so I was actually waiting for my hand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been very...

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shaky and so my my writing hasn't been good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We we were going to go to all of our skiddleball game the other day and while it was going to get home after we left I had to get Aaron to write the note because I was scared while it wouldn't be able to read my writing Yeah, so Casey this first or second card you will receive might not be legible It's not bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just need me to translate for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Please take a picture Send it to me on discord and I will be happy to tell you what it means

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[SPEAKER_00]: The thing is, pewter type to letters.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's never going to be any debate as to whether or not we rate our own cards because it's pretty obvious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just kidding, you're ready.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every message is individually written.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is not Arabic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no Arabic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's no template.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're similar enough now, but for the most, but they're all individual.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to heart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get straight into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I preach Jesus the whole... God, no, I'm kidding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a part of my way though, before you send it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that'd be awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I read on this song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they end up getting the card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just... Hit it, thanks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tags, record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be so funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... new traditions starting now uh... sorry case and every one else i just got it last night exclude anybody out of the mail sorry that's just took to be a shelter member uh... what do we got this week in p u e

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[SPEAKER_00]: Got nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was all P.O.E.1, which is good, but it's just like they have a hiring that two small hot fixes and it's all talent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, for your petitions and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Watch them quickly, look at the talent stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And people are so good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hmm, okay, that's cool patch notes, patch notes, hiring.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, hiring.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's so funny.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I got a text from Logan.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He sent it to in Christina and me have a shared WhatsApp chat with Logan, and then we have one of these.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And in that he goes, I guess, removing and he put a link.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, what is this?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I clicked the link and it was the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, let's go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll go there in a heartbeat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The lack of creepy crawlies and critters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have there and strictness.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have can't wait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's going to be like, oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do they do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't believe you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Look it up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Didn't they have a, we talked about this in after dark.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They have XL contour.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We didn't talk about that last week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You don't lie, we didn't talk about it because it wasn't, let's say we did the term and it is on the page.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just not in their own expense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you go to pathivexile2.com or pathivexile.com after you've been to pathivexile2.com once you realize there's no reason to be there and you should just go to pathivexile.com so you don't resort to pathivexile2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it is big, look, ErpsoilCon is the code on top of it, only thing on the page, so that's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then if you go to pathofxl.com, the banner at the top is everybody ignores because normally that's an advertisement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's up there, but see I get our links from there and talk about on the form and then they're patch notes from the patch notes section on the form and so For some reason they didn't announce exile con on their Announcements form and so we didn't talk about it last week

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But anyways, super cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, one thing that I thought, I mean, we tried not to talk about it in after dark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you, what do you think they're going to win now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that maybe they're trying to turn it into something where it's just like, hey, just calm, hang out with some P.O.E.

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[SPEAKER_00]: buzz.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is what the P.O.E.

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[SPEAKER_00]: people, and yeah, but I still think it's going to take a tiny bit of time, because their first exalcon was a ginormous massive, which it probably would be for anybody who's trying to start a regular convention.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it started this precedent and then how many have they've been now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's two right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's been to the soul now the next one people like You know because it was crazy delays and all this kind of stuff like okay It's gonna be an announcement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna be the big announcement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna find out the date and the big announcement was

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[SPEAKER_00]: that beta was going to start by the end of that year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was underwhelming, whatever the it was and if you're trying to change the precedent, I mean, you got to start somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So life goes on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm curious though, if you don't announce the start, like when this game's actually going to be, and you and I have the impression this game still has like way more than a year to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I bet you, okay, go ahead,

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[SPEAKER_00]: That means that your game is going to be released over a year away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, not officially, but that's how the general mentality would be from your fans, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it seems like a tricky time to have when if you're not announcing the expected, but then also kind of like Rockstar expected, start date that's going to get delayed, but the expected launch date, right, of the official game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What were you going to say?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Bob, I bet they announced the release in they're going out of early access and that they're doing that December that would be their December rollout 2026 and Because I think I mean I think that I think they will leave early access when they finish act five and six.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't the wait Jonathan's already said that he doesn't it's not going to come out with all the classes

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[SPEAKER_03]: and all the ascendancies like they don't feel like they need to have those done before at leisurely access.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I could see them, uh, yeah, moving out of early access.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know that I don't well, we still have a couple of updates before that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So maybe they have some plans, but that would be my guess because otherwise I don't understand it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because the cons, I don't get it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I get the idea of a convention.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's really cool.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But their conventions are just really difficult, because they're so far away.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean, there is one cool part of their conventions, which is the people who are going to them are like, hardcore and Depathive XL.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're not just nonchalantly going like, all right, I'll go to that convention.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, every single human, you go and get it around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a long way, like, going to Egypt.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So other tickets are massively expensive.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, they're, like, just tickets to get into the convention are way more expensive than they used to be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, to the base ticket is 250 US, the VIP 750 and the Ultra VIP is 2000.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I do not remember them being that high when I went.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's grind those 2019, and if they're actually running a convention while they're managing creating two teams, I would guess that a lot of this price increase has gone to them hiring a company to run everything for them, because I just don't understand how they could with their staff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: try to put a massive convention together while they're trying to develop to two games, like that just doesn't seem likely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, it'll be cool to see, but I, yeah, I wouldn't surprise me if they were announcing that they were going with one point or like out of early access in, I don't, I'm thinking in my head like if the game was as it is right now and you just

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[SPEAKER_03]: In my opinion, it's probably not ready yet to go out of early access, but also, I don't know, like, does it need to be kept behind really?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, man.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not really sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the story actually needs to be done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yes, that would be five or six year without the actual proper transition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, because it's not like the path of exile ones been around and then they eventually enhance the story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You actually have to have a complete base story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like those interludes just it's I mean I guess you could get away with the interludes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that will really cheesy tie into like no story but they have a connection to the end of act four and the end game so you could do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think I saw post on our discord.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was a reddit thing but as if it's correct, Cat Noodle is just hired to help

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, to do like lore stuff as far as I mean it was as quick read that I saw but yeah, so if they're doing that then yeah, there's probably a big crunch into getting a really well done efficient nice and thorough narrative getting done

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, that I'm probably with that news coming out is something that is going to happen for launch, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have finishing the axe as something that so this is all just like a hearsay chit chat if it's coming out within 10 or 11 months, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: 10 months, I guess it would be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to finish the X, but that's all the visuals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's actually the map.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the bosses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the voice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The voices are already done, who knows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you have to finish the X.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to make sure that the Atlas is the way that you want it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that can change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's changed many times in past one, but you have to be happy with the end game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because then you come out with the official game and end game is not the way you want it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: or people are super displeased with it, it's a failure of launch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you can go through and have all this open-mindedness, but at the end of the game, if you're actual launch sucks for whatever the reasons are, it's a sucky launch, and you went through like this seven, eight-year process, and then you had a super crappy launch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And everybody plays this game for the end game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So however they're going to do it, they do have to make sure their endgame is properly in place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're acts, their endgame, all the weapons need to come out, and that means I mean, do more skills need to come up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of well, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, if you were to, if you're talking the way you're talking the way that I would think, I would want it to be, is then yes, if it's weapons classes, ascendancies endgame, I just don't think it's going to all be done before they do their move out of early access.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say ascendancies like actually having complete ascendancies for every class is a must.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't say you really want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think every because on their menu, they have all the classes that aren't in the game yet.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but Jonathan said that he doesn't feel like those all have to be done before they come out of early access.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's such a sense.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I mean, I don't know if that was said or not,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, to me, that's not true at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you don't, like, you're their menu itself has all the classes listed, and it also displays the available ascendancies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be so weird to have some great out and say, hey, we've officially launched.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what's the predetermining factor for an official launch then, if you did your games not complete?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's a lot of stuff, I mean, especially because they are saying that they are releasing what they have finished, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's their moving forward with their releases, what we get is what they have completed up to that point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it just means that they're, I mean, I'm sure everything's in some different state of completion with them, but just that's a lot of stuff to, if they were to go with the full release at the end of this year, like that's just, that's a lot of stuff, if you, if you

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that to me is, I hope you're incorrect on that because that to me is not because complete is complete.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you can't like change the definition of whatever complete.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know what you're saying, I know I'm being a bit more devils advocate to what you're saying with complete, but I don't think the game's ever fully complete, but I do, if you have the character.

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[SPEAKER_03]: options there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's weird to release that that's a coming soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If people don't know other characters exist fine, but they already have that precedent, you have the witch and the sorceress all out, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know that this one person hanging can switch from this outfit or this outfit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it means you have these three options to eventually upgrade to or these three options to eventually upgrade to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know that everyone else that's hanging is going to

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, let's say I go to one of our friends and I'm like, hey, Path of Exiles fully released.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can play it for free now and then they go and they're like, oh, you mean I can only use hammers?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or it's like, you go to the warrior and it's like you get two options.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or you go to the druid and you get two, but there's no second option to see what those are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to come back to you and being like, what do you mean complete?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean fully released?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, free?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, from the masses, when you're making the game for the masses, complete does mean one thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whether that's their definition or not, hopefully we're on the same page, but at the end of the day, like, if they're coming out in what my definition is of complete,

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[SPEAKER_00]: they have a lot to go through because not only do you want that to be in the game but you'd like to have a pass or two of making sure it's all relatively fun to play to, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, if it's just thinking about it too right now, it's always fun because this is we're just talking back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We have no idea what they're going to do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But Jonathan, I remember him saying that they weren't coming out of early access until they had, whoa, you all right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I have a little pull out thingy on my desk, and uh, I bonked it hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so I'm like a hurt here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, it's one of those most pully-outy shelves.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He, uh, but he said that, um, they wanted to good leagues in a row before they get some positive, like positive feedback.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I remember.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, before they came out with early access, which is actually kind of funny too because, uh, I'm not sure how feedback on the leagues correlates to how complete they are and ready to launch 1.0 like come out of really access.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I don't know how those two things correlate to each other, but sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if, if they were to try and do it, let's say that they were to try and do it, that's, do we have two, two leagues through 20, 20, six with them, we have three, three more left.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If we were talking to SEMBER, what's on the screen?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, actually, it's only three, three a year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's only once every four months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When did this one just, it was December, month ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was December.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then we'll have our March one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then our June July one, whichever one that is, and then more August, and then we have said, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then we have August.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have December August July March April.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, there's really two.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's two that would come out before if they were to try and release 1.0 in December.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it is actually a lot going to be the announcement that the

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[SPEAKER_03]: That would be my guess, but if it's not, I think that's still fine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it will be interesting to see if their goal with Excel kind is just to make it a fun convention that they try to do every year with some information, but it's not like Excel can't one was the first one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So...

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I am definitely glad I went to the first place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought was a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People go without expectation and then everything's awesome and exciting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it'll probably take time to get there just because you're only on number three in the first one was so huge.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and there was big expectations for the second one, which probably maybe wasn't sort of fair, but it kind of was expected.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then it didn't have that same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, a lot of curiosity with this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of hoping for their sake that it is another, like, not really non-announcement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exile concept because that number four, then number, like again, it would be

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[SPEAKER_00]: Disappointing like the second one for the people that are going because they're hoping for that big release Stay with them every year, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't just last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what these things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then you get like the next one after that number four and then it's like, Everybody's gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just like sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a no-announcement thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, people are always going to be hoping for the big reveal until the reveal happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the more you have without it, the easier it gets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Either way, I assume we're not going then if tickets are $10,000 American.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unless they want to send us one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'll get so hot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's such a long flight.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's such a long trip.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is this the November?

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[SPEAKER_03]: What are they doing it?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's their summertime.

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[SPEAKER_03]: November 6th, summer, that'll be cool.

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[SPEAKER_03]: At least I'll everything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We don't watch it for not there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's so cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Drink.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When we can go to your house and have some drinks while we watch it, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Last time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They we did do that last time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is like a daily.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so you got to make sure there's no software updates to your system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Come know them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's blown for August September.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Watching.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, just because of the dates.

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[SPEAKER_03]: make it status quo for a while.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So then we're just pretty there's nothing patchwise though everything's just sort of rolling along.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's all like we're reading a store.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is it Pewie?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, the page is there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Who's next?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Who gets the next update?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's path path one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: One.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But we don't know when or have they said that they're to I don't remember.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Are they joining an announcement for that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They will they will I won't care.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just like path 2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I played both games this week, though, and you didn't play in it, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So tell me about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you play?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it was weird because I'm controller on both console on both, primarily, but this week I'm playing on PC.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm controller on PC for path 1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, of course, it's the same experience path 2 no

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I had a great time, so like I'm not cutting the game down, but it was weird because the buttons are so different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, so of course there's like getting used to OSU to I can't dodge or a low-shoe to I can't do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, right, there's so many more automatic skills that trigger this and that and then, you know, you get back into the mentality, oh, right, I just can't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I have to have a certain amount of decks for this because it doesn't work that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, right, I can't choose my attributes on the tree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mixing in is fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You get back into it quick, but the one it was so frustrating going between menus like playing path 2 because I was We could play path 2 with Aaron.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because it's cross platform Right, and she's enjoying the progress of going through with her well where wolfs you just unlocked her little wolf buddies

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, with Spirit Gem in Act 3.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, she's excited about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we did that a few times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I go to Path 1 to Play for the Private League.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like how to stash stuff and pick things up and move them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all sort of vendering.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's so different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even the buttons like LB and LT do the opposite between each game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So sometimes I'm moving my stash tab over instead of moving to the next stash tab.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to actually changing my currency tab to move farther down the list of so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was tough to go back and forth, but just in a like, kind of way, not in a Chris is, I don't know why it's different, but it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it better into, is that in play one with it's not better into?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's I prefer how it is in one, the cell button.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you go to the vendor, you hit, you know, like the cell button, extra cell, and then it's X.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to move your items to the vendor screen in your stash as well, which is really nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so there's a lot of consistency there, but then sell is also the same button as transfer over if you're with your stash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's always just xxxxxxxxx no matter which screen you're on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's nice and smooth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the ability to go between all your stashes is nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still very clunky in path 2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially when you get to the MTX screen, how they have you moving between tasks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you want to summon the D-pad versus the L analog stick and so it's still very clunky in path 2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in path 1, you can, like, on vendor screens or in your stash tabs, you can, on a rest on or highlight empty squares, but you can't in path 2, it jumps you to certain things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, do you want to know if that is convenient sometimes?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, because it'll help you snap two things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It still doesn't do a good job snapping like the system's not smart enough yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if I'm hovering over a item and I'm like, oh, shoot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see what my resistor at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I tab over to the character tab, my,

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[SPEAKER_00]: my cursor jumps to something on the character tab and I've got to hit like 20 buttons to get back down to my item.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So path to still not smart yet that'll change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll get better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's sometimes where it's like I'm on the gem screen and I don't want a big tab displayed overlapping a whole bunch of other gems.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see where my gems actually are, but because I can't put my cursor, quote unquote on an empty square, I can ever see my full

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[SPEAKER_00]: because I constantly get the gem information up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so there's no convenient way for me to just go, there's no like quick button for me to actually see my stash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have just to slow it around and it just needs an option to deselect or you're not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just hovered up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Quick hide info, right, something like that, just for the moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it path one's a lot smoother with that experience, but I love the gameplay and path two so much more so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was fun to go through, again, there's like every time I do this, I get that huge appreciation for how, like, path one still drives me nuts, but I have a big appreciation for how fine tuned the experiences and how old the game is, um, the chance to, I know, is going to get there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm alive, but I'm not going to be able to finish, um, like the axe, I mean, or what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm, I cannot play this league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you play it this league, you didn't play this league when it first came out did you because he was just for a little bit, just for a little bit I did, but it literally puts me to sleep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I cannot play for more than 30 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've tried and I've tried.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've actually gone to bed so early, slept for 11 hours, had like the most perfect diet that I've revolved my entire day and a half before just to try it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I play Path of Excel at the prime day of my prime time for energy for me the very next day after the best sleep, the best diet, best everything and no joke within 20 minutes to 30 minutes, I am like I cannot even stand I need to fall asleep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's because no, well, I do find the game more boring than path to that's just the difference between gameplay, but what it is is the mechanic itself when you're actually going through it is so I can talk to the leveling right so it's it's about breach of range.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's all those walls, and you have this crazy purple floor around you, it is so bright and so flashy, and you can't, like I can ignore the gameplay mechanic, but I can't ignore the visual aspects that are all in a picture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even if I need to progress from this waypoint to that waypoint, even if I'm not going to actually do the breaches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still have to run through the stuff and just how flashy those walls are when you're going through with your purple aura.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you play with like Bloom down?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Does that affect that really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, I have everything set to make it as accommodating to me as possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't play it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'll go through and I'm like, okay, that wasn't that bad, but then no joke in like 10 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't just, I literally only played for 30 minute sessions, yesterday was kind of like my last attempt to try and play long-term.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd get from one way point to another way point, and then I'd do some laundry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd do one way point to another way point, and I'd do the top tray of the dishwasher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd do one way point to another way point, and I'd vacuum the area rug.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was probably able to play for a total gameplay maybe an hour, but then I fell asleep before my wife came home after dinner and I slept for like three hours until it was time for the kids to go to bed like I just could not stay away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dang.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to keep going with it, but I can't ruin my day because of it, but I don't even think I'm going to be able to pass like I'm inact seven, I think.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, well that's not bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I normally get to maps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just normally die in the first map or two, but the campaign's always easy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The build is doing, it's my repurposed, the phantasm, it does poison and bleed, it's really strong, offensively, it's really strong, defensively, the path and the system, like it's just such a fine-tuned build over the years, I really like it, and it's so easy to go

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[SPEAKER_00]: that is still up to pay attention of course a little bit and the purple areas are especially dangerous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean I haven't come into any like I haven't even been close to dying once except once in a trap I was zoning out running with the soft course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like some time right, but there's been a couple times where it's like all of a sudden I have like three or four layers on me in these purple areas and I'm like man like this crazy

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it is except I like I'm already like Yeah, I'm hoping it's a question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but Anyway, like it's it's been good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just I'm disappointed because um You know, I like competition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like seeing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like it's not Well, I'd like to prove people wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I can do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My build is good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But people keep thinking my build suck for some reason people keep thinking I Don't know the basics of the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why so it would have been nice to like and this was the perfect

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[SPEAKER_00]: time of my life to have it because there's nothing going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could spend, you know, the entire school day playing if I could stay awake for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just the wrong league for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, so hopefully I'll get a league maybe the next path of Excel because there's not going to be that many private leagues left in path one until path two comes out, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's what our thought was, I was just like, died there for a minute.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I cannot imagine playing Path of XL2 in a private league as hardcore ever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like just that, well, there's so much stupid stuff still in fact, you're like, aired and I were playing and we were having so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were having a great time, like, really were her build is strong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm loving my build.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going slow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mo, everything's really slowing down for her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: even with all the penalties including like how many players are in your party.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we go to a send and we're on the trial.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've already done Sechema and believed me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At least he didn't blame me for it or we would have been divorced.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Sechema, that was a few weeks ago that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I remember the Hawking about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, yeah, yeah, it was tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, now it's time for the trials of chaos.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And GGG, thank you for making sure that my marriage is on a solid foundation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because your trials are, it's like building a key furniture together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're saying do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially with Sechema.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you share a health bar, yeah, come on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, so trials of chaos, it's actually not like it's a lot more fun co-op because there's a little bit more agro there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so there's less focus on the stupid stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, it's still stupid that there's a stupid but you know, there's no more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like it's not fun, but at least you're earning experience points.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Insekama, half of it's about not earning experience points.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could kill this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you may as well not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's only a couple times where it's actually telling you to kill stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise, it's avoid avoid avoid avoid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you are getting XP, you fail the trial chaos, you fail, and you get XP, you do it again, you get XP.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're still possibly progressing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's drops throughout the process, too, which is nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then we get to the bosses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it just ruins everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you're having so much fun, but then it's like one or two things that completely ruin the experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So an example would be you're picking modifiers for your first three trials, not knowing which boss you're going to get.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, do I want increased area?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, do I, is it good to have more monster speed or monster area of effect, or do I want, like, do it which boss is my gonna get because if this boss has a lot of thoughts on the ground, maybe I don't want those lightning circles kick it around because I'm already paying attention to the ground in the boss fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you're picking stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that might be a complete hindrance to the boss that's going to randomly roll for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All of the trials of chaos, though, I think that I think that's what I agreed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then also, then you couple that with something like the Kymera Boss.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that Kymera Boss, it's like fighting the Elden Beast at the end of Elden Ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd rather that do as a jump around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I wouldn't have the ability.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But she's melee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And those, in my own way, that's like that chill, it literally lasts for minutes on the ground.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it slows you like 50% or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the amount that it jumps around and then your slow, like Aaron's like, oh, sweet, I'm gonna freeze this, it's gonna be great, it's at 90%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it jumps, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she has to run through chill to get there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: as much as he's trying to avoid it or dodge roll through it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the time she gets to it, it's at 20% freeze.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's so she's not even close, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like that just the whole experience isn't fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then half the tells for the camera, you can't tell what's going to come because depending on where it is on the screen, you can't even see half the boss anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So any tells that might exist, you can't see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just like, and some of these fights, like even the

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[SPEAKER_00]: to extreme, kind of like Jamirquay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gregory is in a great spot now for the end of Act 1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jamirquay is insane for Act 2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you get to Dorianne for Act 3 and that is a perfect fight for that stage of the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Jamirquay is completely off the map for where it's situated and how busy it is and what it does, like it's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: including the fact that there's only one way to avoid that lightning sphere, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the chaos bosses are the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we had a really good time except for the bosses, but that sucks because that's what you're almost like most excited.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you guys get that second essentially done?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did, but not even on our first playthrough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did it about four or five times on our first attempt, and then she was like, I'm done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we played, so she turned on Sims instead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the second time around, we ended up doing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then now we're going through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the last time she played and got to, she beat Act 3, the cool difficulty existed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There weren't any interludes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so we'll see what she has to say about it and think about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're enjoying it and going through and I'm loving my slow-mo build man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember when I was in front of damage again, it's ED contagion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes, love.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I was also adding, because they have that dark FG tower.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're a totem that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember Jonathan's comments about like, well, if you're doing this, then you may as well do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're doing those, do you may as well do this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it kind of really took me away from theory crafting because I don't want to do those things, but I feel like I have to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like I'm doing the cookie cutter build that I'm supposed to for ED content.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know like that's how I want to do is right now, though, just because there's a lack of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I feel like if you're going down in direction, you're probably doing it exactly how anybody else thought to do that direction because there's no variance really that they get lost for you now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't, I hope that's not what they're aiming for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not what I look for to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not really theory crafting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, discovering.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure it's because we're so early in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, dark F-A-G sends out projectiles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the totem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It sends out projectiles, and a certain amount of them per second based on how many different chaos dots are on that specific target.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it shoots super fast and does very damage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all hits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not dot, but it's all hits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I discovered, I think I mentioned this last week, but I discovered that

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though they're not described differently, I think that's a bug in the game because other versions of Ignite, like you can't like stack different kinds of Ignites, only the strongest one that does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when ED can ED and contagion and despair are all talking about their chaos dots, there's nothing in the game that signifies that they're different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just calls them that same generic term.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I always thought that I'm not stacking these dots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that only the strongest one will prevail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I discovered that they are different regions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I started seeing the icons on the screen, I love learning in the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It has been so fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even path of building in the wiki aren't up to date.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So some questions, I could only answer in the game like which supports, could or can't work for this skill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that about path too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then I started seeing those icons above the boss bar and I'm like oh no way contagion has a different chaos dot than ED and ED has a different chaos dot than despair or not despair, but um decaying hex and I'm like oh and so then now I kind of feel obligated to use the totem

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but I still just want to hit two buttons, so whether it's despair and dark effigy or whether I'm doing contagion and, or sorry, essence drain and contagion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I'm like, how do I want to do it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I'm playing all the way with a third.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So in a boss fight, so what I do on controllers,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I tried casting through cast on minion death.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I tried casting ED and contagion because it's just two dots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they share the same, well, the share of the same supports too, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're focusing on chaos dot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I was like, okay, we'll just throw those two on and then that one enemy is going to die and then they'll spread for clearing and if not, then they'll both stay on the boss and it's the dots that I'm trying to care about right so I tried that for a while and then I was just casting despair and dark effigy and I'm like, okay, but it was it was slow right because I'm waiting for these skeletons to die and then cast and then die and then cast and have enough energy and like it was working.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and it saved me buttons, but it was slow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I went to self-casting, as in strain, it's so strong, and but it's dot is too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what I ended up doing was I put despair on cast on minion death, and for some reason, it casts every time the minions die, but ED contagion would only cast every second time the minions would die.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't get that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't just one spell would cast it, but like neither spell would cast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a gained less energy based on which spells were socketed to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: it's see it was weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe there's something I'm missing or maybe there's a glitch, but either way it was much more consistent with despair linked to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It did mean I had to get rid of impending doom because impending doom is only for self-cast spells or curses, but I'm holding down essence strain just all the time and then I'll just hit X which is contagion every now and then and that's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, on why I have the totem, and I only use that on bosses, or where's whatever longer fight there is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I just don't bother with three buttons while clearing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's still just technically two buttons for the majority of the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when I'm fighting a boss, any time I would hit X, I'll just go X, Y, and...

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine to good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's just not a lot that supports any of those skills right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're focusing on dots, there's two, three supports for S and Stranding contagion.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you like forking S and Strand or are you doing something to get it to chain or to go?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, we're just, I just care about the boss fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, because there's so few supports that actually support the chaos, the dot version of the chaos, including just chaos mastery, I do have space for clearing stuff as long as it doesn't diminish the damage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I even found something like burning inscription.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's another curse damage dealing support.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It has almost no supports to so hopefully those come out soon in the next patch It'd be fun to I mean obviously way more needs to come out, but it'd be fun to have a little bit more variety with what's currently out there

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I had a great it was frustrating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course had some pretty frustrating moments like the really bright flashy path one And then of course the the crappy bosses and in path two, but I overall I had such a great path of exercise That's a lot of paths so free.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was it was it was it maybe it just in general.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I was sleeping so much here in the day too So maybe maybe that wasn't a fair comparison about I mean, it is super bright It is very bright and it's kind of a flashy as it almost jars you're walking through it

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like when we're driving to the interior and we're driving through Manning Park and it's those are coming through the light time like any time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The one those like mid-force drives and the sun's at that perfect angle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so gorgeous day, but you're driving through the tree so it's like shades on shade, shades on the sun, so it's like a bunch of days to every gadget in this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can't even like squint it away or anything or close one eye because it's over the windshield too, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when you just hold the wheel and you just hope.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I can just like, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: See you never and kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just don't stop because I can't tell.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh man.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad you got to play it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you've had a busy week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have after Dark Tonight, of course, and but you haven't touched the private league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, what do you need?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you've had a busy week, tone down, get things out of your head, just chill out, not pay attention, would be the private league be more for like, well, I want to make it journey everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to make it character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I, uh, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot more brainless than a hardcore experience, but you're also on kind of a time constraint now for hardcore, so I'm fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm fine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If I get some time this afternoon, I don't know if I will, but if I do, I will try not at least make a character and get into it and see how it's feeling because I would like it's I never not had a character in one of our private leagues.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've been at time, so my hope, my hope is to at least get something in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the only night time, so, like, easy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, only.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's a fun, it's been fun to watch people die, um, but this is a disappointing one for me, because I was hoping to get far enough ahead that maybe you might not have had the time to catch up to me, I might have been you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I had the time to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just the flash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The flashiest league that I've ever seen, so.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you may still, um,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'll be able to get past X7, but I don't remember when the sends would I'll just double check.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It is hardcore solo cell phone and it ends February 9th at 138 a.m.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I really only have a Saturday on Sunday is it?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, so every Monday morning or Tuesday morning.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Monday morning, the 9th at 138 a.m.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I have Saturday in Sunday and maybe some today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, maybe we cancel age of M past tonight.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, maybe, so play let's just say how things go because I still have Saturday and Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_03]: My hope is not to be working as much as we can to last, so hopefully I can at least find some time to play.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I also have just, I haven't had the brain space to go on to a hard core.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'll probably do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just like after your week, maybe like I'm not trying to like say, hey, spend time with me, but after your week, maybe like you need something little brainless, get some.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who are you talking about?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Holy Roman Empire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Holy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not happening anymore, I don't have any more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's me, now I get to do awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I get to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who was the group that I was playing at?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I keep wanting to call you the HR, you know, the Holy Roman Empire, your, oh, the Knights Templar.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Knights Templar, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess you ever hear any, actually, Swatchy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, oh, it's one of my favorites that order the dragon they have one of their sometimes everyone on every now and then one of their villagers was But when I'm any of the French the French Joan of Arc or Holy Roman Empire every now and then ago Gee so watchy

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they do that for my guys too, because I have definitely heard that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're a French variant.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's wrap this up then.

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