Merry Christmas! (Week 1 of Path 2's .4!)

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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to forever excelled them just in a k-tags, but I'm T-bone.

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[SPEAKER_03]: T-bone, essentially, but my mom named me, but you can call me Tyler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Episode 324.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what it was because I think I was gonna be doing through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 324 and a Merry Christmas up so this is our Christmas up so so there you go big show tour patrons thanks everybody who resubbed up this week a patreon gets access to our afterdark it's our podcast after the podcast we keep going we keep talking and we appreciate your support but yes Merry Christmas everybody we do we do that yeah holiday whatever you celebrate but Merry Christmas for me

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[SPEAKER_03]: Happy family vacation time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Happy time off work.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I hope you don't have to spend so much time with family on this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like them, hopefully not too much.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's immediate and extended.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, a lot of situations.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Most importantly, though, hopefully you get a lot of path of exile time and squeeze in be like the best family, significant friend, other person ever, so that you can play like six hours straight of Pewey that evening, guilt free.

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[SPEAKER_03]: was the thing going for.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't don't just don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I put my phone on D and D. Don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just in there talking about how crappy this coffee is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So we've got, um, we've been looking for an area rug forever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hold on, hold on, I just want to say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you just talked about the two of you talking about how to crappy the coffee is and now you're talking about getting an area right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is, you know how can cust and foggy my brain is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I will not be tracking this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is this, I hate this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So Aaron and I have been looking for an area rug for forever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Our last one, we got a Costco ages ago, but I hate paying money to shop somewhere at the Costco, paying a membership to shop somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then it's like the crappiest service crappiest selection.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's still too much for us.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, then we were a family for, but whatever, it's like things will go bad, so we'd end up wasting out the money we spend.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You think you're going to spend 400 bucks on groceries and you come out at 900 bucks because of all the, like, Oh, we could probably use this kind of plug-in and stuff like that's why I don't let it go.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So we stopped.

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[SPEAKER_03]: going to Costco went to Superstore or while my or whatever whatever worked, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Played the game, wherever was cheapest, so but anyway we're looking for area rocks and there's like we looked for like two years after our last area rug wasn't worth having anymore, we looked for two years for a nice eight by ten that suited our house.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're looking at close to a thousand bucks where we live.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like it was like, even just like something plain and stupid, it was all dumb.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, I find something on Amazon throughout Walmart ages ago.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like 60 bucks.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, it's coming home.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care if she likes it or not.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We've looked long enough, she'll...

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[SPEAKER_03]: but not in a bad way, but she'll do with it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like she doesn't like to love it forever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, I bring it home and it feels like what it feels like outdoor mats that you scratch your shoes on to get the crap off.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, oh, it didn't feel like that in the store.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So we get, we return it and she asks why, and I'm like, because it's not an indoor mat that's not a door mat.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So give me my money back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And, um,

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we keep looking and looking and I find one on Amazon like a few weeks later, and I'm like sweet.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, awesome Like I can't believe it's only 150 bucks compared to the 800 and 50 rugs and so we're looking and I buy it It comes you're not allowed to vacuum it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't even know that was I didn't even look to see I didn't even know that existed

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[SPEAKER_03]: that there was a way that it could it was.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It said if it gets dirty pretty spot, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Just like what?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You just just slowly pick off the stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, get it did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could do it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was not even obviously not even in the proper grammar of English.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was an absurdly broken English.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All instructions seem to come in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Stay right, though.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And our vacuum, our dyson, we tried a hundred different ways, not none of our extensions could work on it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was because it, I don't know what it was, but it was like light enough.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't strong enough that it couldn't stay down.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was like we actually sucked up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, crap.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Do it sucked into it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, interesting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We couldn't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I never even thought there were area rugs or carpets that you could not vacuum.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't even know that was a thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's the dumbest thing in the world.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what a vacuum is for.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's, that's, and when you create rugs, it's like you have to create the vacuum at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's probably how it happened.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, so we tolerated that for forever, but eventually that just got like, we tried to clean it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We tried to do it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it was just too much crap.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, man, like, let's just throw that 150 bucks down the drain.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We tried it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It felt nice to lie on until, of course, it was gross.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so we hooked in the garbage.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We've been trying to find an area right now for years, basically.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we remember the last time we bought our area rug was at this dumb ass place called Costco where you actually have to like you get the crappiest service, the crappiest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get the crappiest.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You don't want to eat it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you have to pay to shop there, which is ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, you know what, paying for one year of Costco and going in to get one of their eight by ten area rugs is cheaper than just going somewhere else.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so we do, we get this area rug.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's ugly and we don't care.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We can vacuum it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We can vacuum it every day.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And now that we're sometimes shopping at Costco and sometimes shopping at Superstore and sometimes shopping at Walmart based on what we want.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Costco has two things Justin.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cheap Parmesan, cheap taco seasoning, and cheap agave.

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[SPEAKER_03]: okay so whenever that's on the list that's where we go and then if there's something else we need to top up that's when we do it too and this has been an extremely riveting conversation but I wouldn't know if the coffee comes into the list so now okay coffee's on the shopping list okay so we get our ground coffee right so that we can put it into our maker and we make our coffee

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[SPEAKER_03]: Costco's version.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And remember, like I've emphasized now, Costco does not have options.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You want a ground, dark roast coffee.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can have the Kirkland brand, or whoever pays to be there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that whoever pays to be there is no rages price because they want you to buy Kirkland.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I compare the prices.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The Kirkland price is...

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[SPEAKER_03]: little bit cheaper than superstores, so we buy this massive thing because that's what Costco is of Kirk from Coffee, and it is nasty.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm the kind of person where it's like, if I go to a restaurant and I ask for coffee, I know it's going to be crappy, but it's just crappy because it's not good, it's not crappy because it's disgusting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just not a good cup of coffee.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not a horrible cup of coffee.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't drink this Costco coffee.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like it actually tastes like it's gone wrong and it's bad.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like about?

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[SPEAKER_03]: It is so nasty.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you know what that means?

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[SPEAKER_03]: That means going to Costco.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm aware, I wouldn't do it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That means it's an awesome thing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That parking lot is huge and it is always packed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There are so many idiots.

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[SPEAKER_04]: that I have to tolerate going in with their parking in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's these dumb-long line-ups they're arguing that they want a new membership card because they don't like to picture on it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just assumed that was always you in the line.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I should face, I'm not going to Costco in like, it's December 19th.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even want to go at like June 17th.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So you're drinking the coffee?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm, well, Aaron's probably found some artsy, farcey way to save it, but I said we can throw it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, the cheapest do something in gardens or something's

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's piss on it, that's what you do, it's piss on your hydrangeas.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, uh, I'll find something, but anyway, that's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have the grossest cup of coffee here, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It is December 19th, and I have one drink to look forward to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That I'm allowed to have.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not supposed to drink sometimes, I do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's fine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know the consequences of what I guess you could say with all my health restrictions.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Coffee's the one thing I have to look forward to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And right now I have, it's a wonderful mug my wife gave me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever seen White Christmas?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I know you like it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've never watched it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it is actually quite funny for the times, for the times, remember it's dated now, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: But Bing Crosby and Danny K staring at me as sisters, and I get all happy and warm inside, and then I take a

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's supposed to be like the best part of waking up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: His folders in your cup.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that definitely does not taste like a crappy cup of folders.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm gonna ask you how you're weak was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was because you got a notification.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he found no problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Merry Christmas, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still thought I just had the rug.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just had the rug.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was that because of... Was that to give me the direction to understand why you have a Costco membership?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that what the rug is?

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, Erin and I are deciding what to do with this coffee.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's still like half a container of like eight billion gallons of coffee left.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess you don't measure grounds in gallons.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know whatever Americans do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you don't.

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[UNKNOWN]: No, you don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But take off your views for I wouldn't have no throwing it in the compost.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, now I'm excited.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Very Christmas to all and to all.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's December 19th, man.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know, how is your race time?

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[SPEAKER_03]: We talked if you're going to have either failed or succeeded that you've got your kids Christmas.

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[SPEAKER_03]: How was your week?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, my week was...

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we had a standard every year we do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have our tankless system water system in our furnace service.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's part of a membership we pay for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a servicing done on Monday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was feeling great on Monday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I let them in and I left to go to my office and then I got a phone call.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, we're later in the, find out that the heat exchanger has got holes and a couple tears like actual breaks in the heat exchanger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we are, but I oxide poisoning that you miraculously survived that we didn't die from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, yeah, uh, long stories.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Just get that though, two years ago.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We had, we had been switched to tankless.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, the tankless is fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The furnace is where the heat exchanger was cracked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So even 11 years though, for a furnace is way too soon for that to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But just there's put over the static pressure in our house and just unlucky, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though we've had it serviced every single year and they did say that they saw, I guess, rust starting last year, which I don't remember them telling me that, but then, yes, it was the, that's quite the erosion.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I'm pretty that you like to have it at 85 degrees Celsius in your house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just an in winter time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just sits at 19 to 20.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I leave it at 19.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but in summer time, I'm like minus 18 or as low as I can get this thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, yes, so the thing that was I got a call and they were basically, yes, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've had to

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, you don't get the whole gun to my head and then say if we'll do it if you turn to spend this money or this is your solution.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So any of my drove home said to him this is my house show me how it works in case I ever wanted to turn it back on But the fact was I was going to have to get some fix and the option was to either replace it and try to make a semi fix to the furnace, which would cost me just slightly under half of what putting in a new furnace would cost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was the same decision we did last last, uh, and it would take two weeks before they could get it back, which meant that potentially either being stressed about part of the carbon monoxide detectors working, which I know they will, or having no furnace turned on for two weeks, because that's along the part with take versus

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[SPEAKER_00]: that new furnace was put in the next day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Tuesday, I had a new furnace, the whole day, they were here putting in a new furnace, which sucks, because it's freaking out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm very close to see your quotes and what versions they offered you, because you and I use the same company.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I got this probably the same paper with the same three quotes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm curious what you were offered.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we should compare it afterwards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What happened in mine is I know the owner, and I called and was like, look, I understand your guys

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[SPEAKER_00]: situation with this, but I don't, I'm not, it's not cool to turn my shit off and then say, you're on the option to fix it as to pay money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want me that you don't want to get in trouble if we die, but if I've got the stuff in my house, you know, I said to him, I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I woke up this morning happy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My house was heated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything was fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The perfect amount of carbon dioxide.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was exactly the day was going to be fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And had we not had a service?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We wouldn't know now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate them finding it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because obviously, we don't want to have a problem down the road.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And at least we could plan for this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I would say to him, I'm like, I will never have you service my house again in December.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you can come in September.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can come in January.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, we're a week from Christmas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now I got to spend

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, that's why my week was that and work and work has been so eff and busy, but it's been really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kids are doing well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did Christmas concerts and end a school this week and Right, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I said you sent a picture of me of my kid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The Christmas concert you went to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I being a John two friend sent a picture of a while.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I only took one, but it took two, but I only sent you one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, yeah, of your kid at my kids Christmas concert.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're good friends.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The kids are finished finished today first Christmas and we're pretty close to ready.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll probably have to record it may be possibly a little bit later tonight because we're going to finish a couple things.

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[SPEAKER_03]: after yeah actually bring up a good point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was thinking about this but then I forgot about it so thank you for reminding me today's my last day without kids for wrapping gifts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Same for so yeah I'm in the same boat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was trying to do it this week and I was like just leave me alone someone like I just my phone wouldn't it it was annoying that being said that's when I'm not I'm not the primary rapper I suck it right

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_03]: My wife has been surprisingly nice to me the last couple of months.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so this was a friendly conversation that we had.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And she was saying that I'm not normally involved in Christmas stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, things have been good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I've been like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's not that I don't want to be involved in this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, there's some things in a relationship where permissions aren't appropriate.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yes, you can't or can't do this, but then there's other times where it's like, yes, you can't or can't do this based on, I don't know, like, you know, if I wanna go bowling with my buddies and she's like, no, oh, we haven't hung out in like three weeks.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't you dare go bowling with your buddies?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Makes sense, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: one thing that I have not been allowed to do is rap gifts.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Decorate about it because she likes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: First of all, yeah, and Sarah is doing like not strict, but like so we're reigned in like personal preferences and traditions and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but to the point now where it actually has turned into something where it's not even discussed, it's just she does it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so maybe she forgot that that's the way things used to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe it hasn't been that way for a long time, but I just assumed it was So if you get to go back to you think of actually, oh, is that a good thing for you because that seems like torture to me?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's it's you like that good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, I enjoyed the gift wrapping part.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, she well hang on earmuffs for family members listening to this

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[SPEAKER_04]: Christmas time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Are we 18A mature?

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[SPEAKER_04]: What's it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's she ever considered explicit?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Christmas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, that's all we're going to say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Five.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You've been one four three two one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She does the stalking wrapping.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Which comes from Santa.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and it has to be different wrapping paper.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And this year's the year where my daughter is going to set up a camera.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you're just at the stockings to see if Santa's real or not.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And she's totally ready to not believe and she's totally ready to keep on believing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's actually really curious.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But she told us she's like, if it's you guys, don't pretend it's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: right so she's gonna set up a camera and i'm like so i'm like a hate love like you don't have eight hours of space for video one camera so if you want us to like we'll hit it at a certain time and we'll stop at a certain time for it sort of air tonight this year we're actually planning on um we're we're giggling about how we're gonna be in the video camera

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you're going to be there in Aaron's that like I said last week, Aaron's the stalking lady.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So like that's her thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's her tradition.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So she's going to individually wrap every bloody thing except for like the Hershey's kisses, which probably one of the most marvelous marketing things.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like talk about a chocolate that you just can't be without a Christmas where we're from.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's her, she's kiss one of them for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you mean just everywhere?

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's one of those things.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like if you say, like, uh, it's one of those things where it's like you say like a chocolate but a kiss chocolate, you know exactly what you're talking about.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I see.

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[SPEAKER_03]: To the part where they can even just wrap it different, like a grinch version and you're like, that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm getting that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's one of those things.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's one of those marketing things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm big in the marketing and I love those books and stuff and do you have a Christmasy Tree snack type thing that you like like for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's coffee phase or tough to foth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I even you'd say them, but those coffee phase No, it's like an actual coffee phase called coffee T-O-F-F-F-F-B-E or something.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They sell in a box for convenience just because you're fancy and expensive

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I used to enjoy stuff, but I have a lot of strange noise now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I used to have fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I used to be a lot to enjoy smiling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, I guess what, I get, can you even have fun?

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I think the thing that I used to really like before my dietary restrictions kicked in were, it was Agna.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just loved Agna.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, can you not have what is that why don't I don't like egg nog but what's the stuff in there that you can't eat oh, it's just loaded with milk.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah, but it's just loaded with me today.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's just, um, that used to be my thing, but then I married into a family where, um, if it's not nine, if the egg nog's not 99% alcohol, it's not egg nog.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I got.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you know, like you can be shamed first up in our culture, but like to the point where it's like you shouldn't even be shamed for this But shaming's just part of the culture, so you're just gonna get shamed for it anyway.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The shame I got Or just liking alcohol that wasn't, or sorry, liking egg.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, that wasn't 99% alcohol I actually thought there was something wrong with me for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm out

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[SPEAKER_03]: Ah, it's all good, man.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Life is great and I'm glad life is good for you too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We should have a gift-rapping party.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Mesh.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Mix up our gifts, see what the kids think of what my son and daughter want.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What do we got, Peoie, this week, a big one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is week one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is, yeah, are we only a weekend to the league one?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but if you click on this week and Peoie, there's like no links, but that's because under the patch notes, I just gave you the link to that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Too patch notes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So many, oh, it's always like coffee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like crazy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: 40, yeah, and good on them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but there's another part of me where I'm like, okay, a lot of this stuff is like the really brand new stuff, and it's not all balanced stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's another one of those things going back even a few episodes where I'm like, this really does seem rush.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you have this thing when you said that, when I disagreed, I thought differently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when because you had said that, you said that that you felt like it seemed like it was rushed and I was like, I don't think that they were rushed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I'm re-canting slightly, why don't I disagree with you anymore?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, but when you look at what these patch notes are, it's all about the new stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And sure, like the league requires balance, anybody that's played PUE for multiple leagues, which I guess now you're an experienced player, because a couple leagues ago, Path of Exile, one's league lasted over a year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So anyone who's used to prior to all of this shuffle, like leagues just come out on challenge door overpowered, and

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[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever, like we're used to it as Pewey players, but a lot of the other stuff, it was much more than balance.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was just functionality.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, even like you and I talking about being in Kate, unable to do this and co-op.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, day one, but like in June a year and a half ago, they paid for people to come all the way across the world.

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[SPEAKER_03]: to LA, to sit on couches.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Point being like, there is a big focus on coal.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a big focus on playing together.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Whether that's 1% of your market or not, like that is a huge part of your marketing, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like this game is going to be for way more people than it used to be, the way more family situations, way more other like everything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So just like there's just a whole bunch

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[SPEAKER_03]: again, like you said, emphasize a little bit more of the rushed thing, whatever it's beta, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we know it's beta.

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[SPEAKER_03]: One thing I was laughing when I loaded the game up and this is completely relevant to anything, but you keep talking about how how on PC, nothing shows that it's early access or game preview or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When I load the game on Xbox in the title, it's path of exile to game preview.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what it says.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's the title of the game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then I load the game in the top left.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The entire time, unless I'm actually in gameplay, it says game preview.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why it's not a game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not a game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right where you're supposed to hit A to get your character selection.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But where it says the patch number, it says blah blah blah blah, patch number, game preview.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It is everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It reminds us that every match, but it doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it says early access.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even if I don't think it does, I really don't think it does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It creates crazy to me how little they have on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the funny thing is how much leeway that could give you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It did.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I had a phenomenal week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was a normal frustrating path of Excel experience with a lot of really fun times, right, that they usual, right, whether it was full release or not.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But because

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[SPEAKER_03]: Game Preview was stamped, you know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't hide those thighs.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No to rise.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Where's that from?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh the league.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What's his name?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Taco.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't hide those thighs.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No to rise.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, like stamped Game Preview.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Game Preview.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Game Preview.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Game Preview.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Game Preview.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, this was great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I had a great week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You on no see.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right now you don't have the game stamp of game preview wet not saying it has to be fun because it's game preview But there's a bit of that like expectation and if you remember softer it doesn't change the in the moment stuff, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I Almost quit path of X all this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I I did play I didn't it's not like I had a tough well, so that was that was actually a great trick Yeah, I forgot it was creepy coffee

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was actually a reason why I think I was so affected and so bothered by Path of Exile was because my time to play video games this week was massively restricted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was so busy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't stand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I cannot stand that I try to play Path of Exile and I leave feeling like I absolutely wasted time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like that feeling and where I've got stuck in that was

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was trying to get the third ascension and I had gone out and I had bought the major I had the right relics so I'm my 75% but like it's so frustrating to play melee in Path of Exile 2 and it feels like like the with the ascending part I get that there will be people who will comment this Tyler and I have gotten it since the beginning of time just get good your build sucks blah blah blah it's easy I didn't have any problem with it which find that can be your opinion but

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to spend half an hour to fail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in Sechema, you actually aren't gaining anything through that time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if I don't complete the ascension, it's not like I walked away with like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: half an hour's worth of map currency and loot or what like I actually have wasted 20 to 30 minutes of my time I I've it's gone it was xp like the depends on me only long for whether it's third or fourth so yes you do get xp and I mean if you die it's over anyway because you're you're runs done right if you're because your honor would drop to zero

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't mean to diminish because none of all you're getting is XP, extra XP is XP, but at the end of the day, and maybe relics, but at the end of the day, everywhere else, you're getting XP and the potential of drugs.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's something else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the part that was just so frustrating is, it's such a key part to planning a build.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, whatever, I know that I personally have

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[SPEAKER_00]: ascending is not fun in Path of XL2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is just not an enjoyable process.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I took Logan through helping him Respeck, his druid, so I helped him run through the second ascension so that he could get it done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like he was really cute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was nice talking to him at the school the other day.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, really, yeah, he was very excited to talk to you about Path of Exile.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I wish I could have talked to him longer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Please apologize to him if you felt like it was, uh, a curtending because it told him that's Tyler, Tyler just doesn't like you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, okay, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He knows that's not true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I just, that's what I was frustrated with my build.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had looked at some options.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I knew that a sending would help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and it's you know what really bothered me is I had the ascension things they were level 70 and 73 so it's the monster levels going to be 70 and 73 and I think when I had first tried it I think I was like 73 or 74 and then I did end up coming back well so I raged a message you I was pissed I did come back and try it and I decided I was going to try some bigger changes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the idea that in my head, I went, oh, I'm 78.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I'm high enough level to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I started thinking, I'm like, this is the third ascension, like in Path of Exile 1, I did that before I completed the axe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you were bordering on like the mid 60s up to 68, depending on where you would do it primarily.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you don't get that hit of the resistance loss, but I could do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I might maybe I died once every now and then not often though, but I could do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you can't do it in Path of Exile 2.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But you know why, you know why.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, two things.

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[SPEAKER_03]: One, trials of ascension hasn't, or sorry, the total mobile, which one is a total, that's not out yet.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that is technically act four.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Which they're assuming we're assuming is going to be the third way you would have spent yeah, I just spoke to Navali recently Super hot even if she's partially dead partially not one I in one I out, you know I'd still go for yeah, you know one of those love relationships where age doesn't matter okay or being alive.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess but So that might change You should walk out or be in a life or

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's fine, we're in like sci-fi RPG and everybody gets it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, but like I some like dancing mermaid with this like deadly singing voice just started like spinning around and that lasted way too long.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Way too long, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

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[SPEAKER_03]: You got a nice pair of boobs staring at you in the face.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, lady.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm not a fan of people when they sing at the dinner table or during board games.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, no, no, no, that's not a no.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I like to music by talking off them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a little distracted, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's fine, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like daydreaming, but in the present.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What do we talk about in the box?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're perfect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait no more.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know, all right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so there's that right when it comes to ascending, but then also the other thing that Path of Exile 1 has over Path 2 when it comes to ascending is you still are actually using your build.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sure, not with the traps and all that kind of stuff, but at the end of the day, you're still fighting the boss.

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[SPEAKER_03]: right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And the traps aren't 99% of the experience, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can figure that out super fast.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like walking past the razor blades isn't tough.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the actual part two is not really isn't bad.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So even though it takes up time, it's not in terms of the efforts you put into the lab experience, it's not that big of a deal.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So the majority is still using your build to fight, but when you are in Sechema, even when you're in the trials of chaos, you're not really using your build.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's so many mechanics that are working against you and so many completely random modifiers that eat.

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[SPEAKER_03]: you're only using part of your build, so in path one, even if you were rushing it and you are trying to get your third ascension before the end of the campaign, the reason you could be so effective is by that point, you have some good sockets and you're using your build to almost its full potential just not fully leveled, and so you have this nice complement of

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can't hear because your build only matters in that boss fight, which yes is the same as path one except you have way more crap to go through and stuff that has nothing to do with your build recovery rate, everything like how the honor system works versus the crazy stupid

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[SPEAKER_03]: Matt modifiers of the trial of chaos.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So hopefully this is just a local issue and the trials of the ancestors, which I am not looking for to it all, because again, that's another thing where your build has nothing to do with anything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But hopefully at least that makes it another easy swoop in, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like at least the first two ascensions are easy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I played two and I was just like, I was talking about a couple of people in 2021.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For me, my personal feeling is just like, man, they really, really either don't like melee or they just don't play it because trials of Sechema.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care if you change it to where I take less.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Honor the closer I am to something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The druid when I play in his bear is very melee, very close,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, I guess up to this point, the only melee we have is slams primarily like slower attacking skills try doing any of that kind of stuff when you're in a scenario where you can't get hit, you don't want to get hit because you're a loser, but you have to survive in a minute and a half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I just want to run around as a bear and slam the ground, but it's going to take me half a second to one and a half seconds to stand up and do the cast time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I got three of those that I got to work myself through, to actually do some damage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was so, so unbelievably not fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what bothered me the most was just that I, I didn't have time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted to play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't really feel like I got much out of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was more irritated than anything else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I had the thought, like, oh, I'm going to, sorry, I'm sort of taking up a lot of time here to talk about my week, but playing, but I thought, okay, dude, that's what this is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought I'm going to, I know we, I thought we were maybe still in this week and puy, but I feel like I can still talk about my coffee and Costco.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still pissed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a rose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I decided like, okay, I'm going to maybe the bear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me try something different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll try and go to Wolf.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had also never seen how you could respect a sentient in Palo VxL2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd never done it before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, so really, I've done it like eight times already.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like actually switch to which ascension you are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sorry, no, I've done it once.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had never, because I guess you, because I just had to redo the most recent one, but I decided to switch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I'm going to go leave Shaman, go and try.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a horror color, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I really wanted to see was the new modifiers that it added to the, to the tree, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought, well, I'll go wall fired red on bit about what people were doing with wolf.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought, okay, I'll set this up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still don't understand, especially in beta why they don't make it easier for me to respect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not talking about like, I gotta get gold to respect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But supports?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Skill gems?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a soul there too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's a soul there too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's no room for exploring.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, not at all.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that should be exactly what the campaign is for, especially because enemies reset in the zones, which is the opposite of maps.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So if that's the case, make it for a learning experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like the inability to buy support, uncut skill gems, whether that support or normal ones has made it like so I have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've swapped over to a wolf to test, I wanted to play with the wolf skills.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All I have is skills within most cases one support on each of those skills because I don't have that doesn't make any sense I shouldn't I shouldn't be restricted to even being able to buy like some of the lower tier on cut support skill gems like so now I have to play and I have to wait for them to come I just it just seems dumb to me like you're not here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a difference between, like, sure, of course you should have to play to earn more of this stuff, but you don't have the value that you would have if you weren't changing your mind.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I guess the point is, we think you should be able to change your mind and figure things out during the campaign, because that's when things unlock.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's when you're like, oh, sweet, this finally unlock.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's try this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, for example, I'll get into my building a

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, I've been waiting for this the whole time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This skill specifically for a reasons I'll tell you later, or I mean, it can, because it's one of the only skills I've found that can consume all three different types of elemental infusions, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like sweet.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now I don't have to have like a bunch of different skills to consume different ones.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I can just have one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I hate it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: because now that I'm playing it vibrates my controller like crazy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, I know that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because every single fireball hit in the ground, my whole control is going to die and like, I mean, how would it get stuck vibrating even though nothing's happened on the screen?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, but that's stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, like, so, you know, now I know I was excited for it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I specced into it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I planned around it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now I don't want it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Could you do your calculation off or no, but then I can't turn it off just for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you should be able to do it every single day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is actually a wrong way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You, but no, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they should actually disable that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were give you the ability to control it for into because like I'm playing rant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was playing with the bear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was playing with rampage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it is your control.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It does not stop because you're

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[SPEAKER_00]: the thing that bothered me about the plan with the shaman was I actually was really quite liking the idea of how the build would play but it's just

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[SPEAKER_00]: not fun when you're the comboing type things that they're getting into, like to have to build up these certain things and then you use the skills and they're like, oh, great damage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's one of those things like a purely one, we're like, for four seconds feels good for four seconds boring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For four seconds feels good for four seconds boring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So much like you're in minion instability thing too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was eating that vibe.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was talking with Aaron.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, I would, she was talking me about the different kinds of built that I like and don't like, and I was explaining it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I actually like a lot of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just, there's not a lot in the game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I love Flame Blast.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've always loved Flame Blast.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But there's a 10 second cooldown for Flame Blast.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, do you see how vulnerable I am for the four seconds while I'm waiting for my meaning and stability to redo?

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[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think I'm going to do for the extra six seconds?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think my favorite one that I was playing with on the Druid side was walking calamity because it's just you cast it and now the entire screen has got meteors and firestorm happening all around you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's literally the entire screen as you're just running around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's very fun because the way is salmon oracle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the walking calamity is just one of the lowest skill gems for the drill, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's its own thing, but you, it's cool because you build the only way to use it is to be full on rage and then you start accumulating glory and then want to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: have, so you have to, you have to build to make sure that you're always at full rage the way that it's calculated and then you use walking calamity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you can just stop around a bear and run around and it just felt fun, but it was so slow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I am glad that I came back and decided to try the wolf style, because I actually do preferred, I don't know how well it will do in the end, but I'm so gimped right now to try and play it, because I didn't have

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[SPEAKER_00]: the supports don't work across and it's not even like you can take a support and breathe fund it and get a you know turn a turn it to your five back into a tier five on cut which no I would rather pay gold for a lower tier one

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[SPEAKER_03]: something.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's got to be something available just to try things out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It just should be like, especially if they don't have like the requested of back from the path of Excel one days, like a testing arena where you can just try stuff out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If you're not going to have that, you need to give us the ability to try it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Especially because there's that huge conflict of how much time it takes to level or go through the campaign.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then unlocking these different skills because, oh, well, this doesn't unlock until you're the end of act four.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, well, like, okay, if you're not going to do that, you got to give me enough resources to actually try it out because if I don't like it, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So there's a time to not like to eventually not like something like it needs to be if I'm going to put this much time into it and end up not liking it, I don't want to regret my time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I need to be able to do something after that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: have some comments regarding the league, which I can bring up afterwards, but how's your build when going like what are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love in my build man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm having such a great time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Still the ways awesome.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so there's a few things that I discovered this week, but I'll explain my build quick.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just basically doing minion instability.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And as I mentioned last week, there's that 100% 104% minion damage.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That the witch has in their first two clusters that makes me feel obligated to be a witch when I'm doing minions right now this week I found a way to do to test minion instability I don't know why I didn't think of it before, but I went to the mighty gorilla silver fist in act two Which doesn't have any or much energy shield right and you can respawn right there and it's aggressive So it comes at you it doesn't do any like dancing and teleporting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a good boss fight test

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[SPEAKER_03]: the damage numbers that you see on the health bar and it took me about like 20 minutes to realize I should be only using one skeleton instead of all eight.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Once I went down to one skeleton and I was at a stage where I wasn't really trusting the wiki, but it's a lot more trustworthy than it used to be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And not a criticism of people like huge kudos to everybody that fills that thing out because that's unbelievable, but still don't know how updated it is versus

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[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, I used one skeleton and I spent all my gold, which I didn't have much so I had to be very careful how I was doing it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But removed a certain percentage of life from my minions and then added the hopefully like almost the exact same amount of damage on the tree, found places where I could allocate, so it was almost the same percentage.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And

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[SPEAKER_03]: Did some testing because you never know when something's a crit or it's not a crit or like they had this buff on or not or oh the gorilla did the spick Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, you do a bunch of testing for a long time to see, and I confirmed for myself that minion damage does impact minion instability, which is nice.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But then that changed my entire tree.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now on POE planner, it's fully updated and ready to go.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So then I spent the rest of that evening fully planning out my tree.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now that I know minion damage actually does impact minion instability, even though it says only minion life does.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And as I'm leveling, I realize that Pui planner hasn't separated the special oracle nodes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, the one so comes from those like, yeah, those like, I don't know, 200 nodes or something that only the oracle can see.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Pui planner didn't find a way to restrict those unless you're the oracle.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, so you see them?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and I could select them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But there wasn't like a discerning or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm sure it's just one person just doing all this work for free.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, everybody uses that site for their Atlas points for path one and path two.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think they have like four patrons, which I think is crazy considering how much people use it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, like, not a criticism, but there wasn't a disclaimer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I go through all this planning and then I realize half my tree is Oracle only.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, oh.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have some work ahead of me here, and then you need to save up some gold because I'm passing to places I don't have access to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But then it ended up being a really fun week of, okay, so the witch has 104%.

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[SPEAKER_03]: nerd damage with in ten nodes like that's ten percent a node which is pretty legit did you look for out of one part of me did you look through in compare yes i did to over two hundred so out of the twenty seven nodes that i wanted on my tree there was like two hundred and something percent minion damage including like minion reservation

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[SPEAKER_03]: and then like ally present stuff and then there was even one really tricky one where it like gave me negative resists and reduced life but it gave like a huge amount to my minions.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I was like, I was going, I was having some tough decisions even before I realized it was Oracle time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so, but then I'm like, okay, so I'm getting this amount per node with this, if I'm the Oracle, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: But the sad thing is I don't like any other Oracle nodes as a minion player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they really, there's no way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're like the way I have to offer me to like any other node as an Oracle.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I also have to do damage.

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[SPEAKER_03]: it's not good for just pure mean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the one that follows it, the entwined realities.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That one's actually pretty sick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It means if I take one of the big keystones, I can in a medium range around it, there has to be spots where that works for you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure there's a keystone.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's not one keystone that is interesting to me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think you should rethink.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I could take a keystone for fun, but that all keystones have a negative consequence that I need to consider.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'll get into my build in a second, explain to you why there's no keystones that actually are relevant for me with the exception of one, but it's also not in a place where that's relevant, but everything else is about damage.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's either about totems or crits, right, with your molder.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's nothing else that really benefits me, whereas with the shaman,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I could get a 120 spirit if I have no time to lose all those things like all the stuff you just talked about to the Oracle gets with the special concede these things if you have the shaman you don't have any of that right right right but then I get like so okay so I have out of 30 nodes I get 210 minion damage plus a few extra bonuses that come with some of those

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, that's pretty strong right and but that's in lieu of so I get a hundred percent damage In ten nodes with the which For in thirty nodes I get two hundred percent with the shaman Okay, so percentage wise What else is that eating into right in terms of other resist or other opportunities right like we're talking Almost twenty more nodes

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So is it worth that reservation?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I did the math on path of building.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's two minions to get that extra reservation note is those extra 20 nodes worth all of that when the rest of the ascension doesn't really match my build.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Probably not, but it took a long time to figure that out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I had a lot of fun trying to figure that out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The shaman has that extra 120 spirit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If I don't use any terms, and I've already concluded that terms are almost useless anyway.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to see almost never get hit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Did some of you come to great?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sure, that means friends are actually pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and then they have the adaptation, which is really strong because I want to mine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So passive, but then it even includes physical damage mitigation, which is something that the witch has a difficult time with, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Aaron was talking to me if she's like, man, crossbow men.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, crossboy, I'm like, I'm leveling, yeah, two hits and I'm toast, and so then there's that, but then there's also the one about bonded modifiers, which the game doesn't really explain well, but you know at some point that's gonna be super strong anyway, so all four nodes there really match and even if I only stick with the three

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[SPEAKER_03]: like that's really strong to shaman, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So am I now I'm sacrificing the 104% minion damage from the witch for the sake of a very defensive.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It'd be like starting as like not necessarily the juggernaut, but like starting as the juggernaut for a minion player, sacrificing some damage for the sake of some really legit defense, but then you get 140% or 120 spirit, just flat, if that's what you're doing with your charms, and my minions cost 20 spirit each, well actually 25 because I'm going gigantic, so either way though, like that's that's big, that's four.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, so now I'm getting my offense of upside along with some strong defense and that's worth it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I ended up deciding the stick with the lich.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm doing the municipality and I'm still sticking with the lich and that's because just the curses themselves, even without any focus or investment, I'm still getting on a boss.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, as I'm leveling, it's 15% in feeble on a boss.

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[SPEAKER_03]: As that levels, it'll get probably up to hopefully 20% even if not even if a stage of 15.

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[SPEAKER_03]: A boss dealing 15% less damage, that's, to me, just as equivalent, as that adaptation that I'd be getting with the shaman, but then I can add a second and permanent curse, right, which I could make offensive or defensive again, which is a huge amount of elemental resistance, which is all I'm doing because it's all just fire explosions.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, that's what I'm doing, but I'm adding zombies and I'm doing skeletal warriors.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that was kind of my my weak in terms of figuring things out and respecking and respecking where you spoke this character.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I had a great time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm near the end of act four.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just on the last island.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I already talked to Navali and Hina Kora.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Got my Hina Kora's lock, which very specifically this time does not let me see into the future, but it gave me two two points.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm having a really good time with it and I've been playing around with the original intention was to check out zombies, right, because the empowered zombies is everybody heard from last week was, got a huge huge buff, but then also a huge adoption.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, right, now I'm seeing, of course, that my initial reaction to it, it was well forethought, I guess you could say like it was.

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[SPEAKER_03]: that like three to four empowered zombies is really strong and even though the game doesn't tell you that they get more life they do when I'm on minion instability and everybody's got the same resist and same knot when I'm raising everyone at the same time my skull to warriors and zombies regular zombies all die at the same time but then I have these three little numbers totally slightly blue that take like an extra three minutes to die which kind of

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to do more life for more resist, do you think?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess it's probably more life.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know because the game doesn't let me look at empowered zombies differently.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I can go into the advanced screen and I can see the difference between zombie and skeletal life, but I can't tell the difference between an empowered zombie and a regular zombie.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but I had a really good time with that, but then I eventually Shied away from empowered zombies because it just wasn't worth it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was just because I'm doing Minions to Billy on both skeletons and zombies, and so I'm just holding down right trigger Which for me is my zombie skill, and then just jjjjjjj and then in a boss fight I just ignore it and I just hit frostbomb because that's just elemental Reduction right resist reduction exposure

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so that's what I was doing, but then Papa Pratt came into my stream yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, Papa Pratt, and started talking about zombies and empowers zombies and how the ropey and was going through and he was playing with sack or something.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I switched.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And was playing with sack or fights, which I've always discounted because the revive time, but I mean, they reduced the revive time for sacrifice.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the penalty for using it is way less than it used to be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it still didn't seem like enough from the patch notes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I already discounted it without trying it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: the thing I can't stand about sacrifice is it's one of those spirit gems that require it's required to be on both weapon swaps you can't just have it on one weapon swap so that was a big big no-no for me but then pop a crack came in and was talking and I'm like all right all right i'm gonna rebuild it i'm gonna all give the shuttle take a look and so i went to path of building hopefully that the math is all right now is checking up cool down times and revive times and all this kind of stuff

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[SPEAKER_03]: And at the same time, I'm start like, okay, so how is pop-up rap making this work?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you need your powertures.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You need this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: How are they doing this and this and this and this and this?

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[SPEAKER_03]: But that just got me on a thing of just checking out things in general.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And one thing, and this is just completely my fault.

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[SPEAKER_03]: My criticism to zombies is that it's never been valid in the boss fight.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, why would I bother investing in this when there's so many other ways to clear?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Why would I care about, like, sacrificing a quarter of my build?

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[SPEAKER_03]: to babysit getting power charges and like they're not convenient charges, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So why am I going to do this when it's just for half the game anyway?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the most important battles, I can't even get power charges in a boss fight for my zombie, so why would I bother in general?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that was part of the reason why I was just easy and careless for me to just not care about charges at all.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I got rid of my power siphon ages ago, but then I don't know why I didn't do this at the beginning, but I control F, power.

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[SPEAKER_03]: on pass of tree.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And there is a notable Justin called infusion of power.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And which time I'm like, and I go to the bathroom quick.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Go for a walk.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Go on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks for waiting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So this node, it honestly, it saved zombies for me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know how sometimes

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[SPEAKER_03]: in like path one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like it's like that completely overlooking it every time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like zombies were just not good enough over and over and over and over and over and over and path one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so in this one when they make their zombie path two, I had that negative assumption again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, you know, not not being overly optimistic about it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: To the point where I actually wrote my very first as far as I know, first ever feedback before trying it out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I posted.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: like that this empowered zombie bit is well thought out because zombies have been weak from the get going, not worth using and not worth going around.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Where is it?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Here it is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Nope, that's not it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Where is it?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Where is it?

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[SPEAKER_03]: What's it called?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's not a few.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's one of power.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know where it is though, but it sounds awesome.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Try to find it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There it is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, it's just a lot farther north than I thought.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So infusion of power.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And this, this honestly, it saved my build, saved all the tough decisions like I was having a tough time like, well, do I want to do this or do I want to do this?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I can't do both with a weapon swap because they conflict with each other too much and I can't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's no middle ground where I can only use 24 nodes to switch everything up because now that you can have an infinite amount of the same amount of supports, you can only have one of each active skill, like I can only have one zombie, I can't have two zombies, one does this on this weapon, so often one does that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I was having a really tough time finding that really nice comfortable middle ground where I was just like, yes, this is it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In Fusion of Power, this is just a notable on the tree, it says gain of power charge when you consume an elemental infusion.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That node saves zombies.

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[SPEAKER_03]: With that node, you can use zombies anywhere you want.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And isn't that, but in my head, I'm like GGG, you smarty pants is like, we talk about their creativity.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, for me, if you were putting me in charge of okay, how do you make zombies valid for boss fights, I'm thinking zombies specific.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm thinking corpses.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm thinking whatever, like, I'm not like, but this has nothing to do with minions, but it because it's so easy to get elemental charges or elemental infusions.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's easy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now it says consuming.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what do you know?

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can consume illusion.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I was already always using frost bomb because frost bomb has the generic elemental exposure attached to it, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm doing minion instability, which is just pure fire explosion.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, there's the ignite that happens with infernal Legion as well, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's just pure fire explosion.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm adding frost bomb to the build and that every time after it explodes, it leaves

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[SPEAKER_03]: an infusion on the ground.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now I'm picking up these infusions, but I'm not looking at them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just happen to end up getting them, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm running around the arena doing whatever I can, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm like, okay, well, that's only one every like six seconds.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe eight seconds, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: My zombies have a four, five second cooldown, but it takes a couple seconds for them to explode.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Then Frostbomb goes off and then that takes in time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's, you know, it's a process.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just a little bit more than the numbers that are stated.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, I should probably get

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[SPEAKER_03]: snap is interesting because snap says anytime you so cast snap and it'll basically like remove the elemental what's it called and someone's like burning or shock or frozen what's that call whatever ailment remove the elemental ailment from the enemy and you'll get an infusion of that type now

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if it counts for things like infernal Legion where enemies are always burning, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because that's just part of, it's like righteous fire almost, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: But also because my minions do so much damage when they explode, every enemy no matter what is always ignited after the fact.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that'll always give me a fire infusion.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, when I'm mapping, after playing around with it, when I'm mapping,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have cast on minion death with Frostbomb and Snap.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When I'm mapping, there are little fire flames, which are the fire infusions everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it is crazy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's, so I have like 10 skeletal warriors exploding, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so then I have that, but then attached to that.

56:48.328 --> 56:50.931
[SPEAKER_03]: So I've needed one jewelers or which they are.

56:51.192 --> 56:52.393
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know where they've come from.

56:52.453 --> 56:54.716
[SPEAKER_03]: I've had three drop, and I'm at the end of act four.

56:55.356 --> 56:57.559
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, they're nowhere to be found.

56:57.539 --> 57:01.784
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, we tied them into the valve thing a little bit too much, but yeah, go ahead.

57:01.804 --> 57:13.779
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, um, which I do not like at all, by the way, but the, so then after I did a jeweler's orbit, I can have a third, third skill on there, then that's where I added firestorm.

57:13.939 --> 57:20.627
[SPEAKER_03]: Because firestorm is the only skill that I found that can consume a cold, fire, or lightning infusion, right?

57:20.607 --> 57:26.172
[SPEAKER_03]: otherwise, I would have to do one that can only consume a cold and fusion or only consume a fire and fusion.

57:26.212 --> 57:27.253
[SPEAKER_03]: And I could.

57:27.313 --> 57:30.516
[SPEAKER_03]: So this is the one key stone that I think could work for me.

57:30.997 --> 57:34.060
[SPEAKER_03]: It's equilibrium or something like that.

57:34.160 --> 57:38.224
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a called elemental equilibrium in path too.

57:38.284 --> 57:39.305
[SPEAKER_03]: It's all about currently.

57:39.325 --> 57:40.326
[SPEAKER_03]: It's all about infusions.

57:40.526 --> 57:50.395
[SPEAKER_03]: So it just like a cold and fusion turns into a fire and fusion or a fire and fusion turns to lightning or lightning turns into a

57:50.375 --> 57:54.002
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm already taking all the minion nodes I want there because they're all good.

57:54.262 --> 58:05.663
[SPEAKER_03]: There's not just one notable, so it's one of those where, like you were saying with the Oracle, if I took that one, which would be the only relevant keystone that I can find for my build, I'm already taking the nodes that I want there because they're all good.

58:06.304 --> 58:09.310
[SPEAKER_03]: Hmm, I'm not like taking a bunch of fluff, just to get to one.

58:09.430 --> 58:10.071
[SPEAKER_03]: So,

58:10.051 --> 58:30.079
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, because the cold infusion from Frostbomb only shows up once every six, eight, whatever seconds, I add to the second one to there, but then I wanted that one skill to trigger instead of having something like Frost Nova and then needing some like a fire skill like fireball as well.

58:30.099 --> 58:34.405
[SPEAKER_03]: Then I need more links and more sockets so this way I just have fire storm.

58:34.385 --> 58:42.860
[SPEAKER_03]: But first, I'm unfortunately visually like, and my control is like, because of all the vibrating, but it's worked wonderfully well.

58:43.280 --> 58:48.389
[SPEAKER_03]: In a boss fight with just one boss fight, like, I just fought monkey guy, what's monkey guy's name?

58:49.090 --> 58:49.731
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, oh yeah.

58:49.751 --> 58:50.433
[SPEAKER_03]: I wrote a little bit.

58:51.494 --> 58:52.136
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, yeah.

58:52.396 --> 58:56.122
[SPEAKER_03]: I never really have really realized that till this time, it's only my second time fighting them.

58:56.463 --> 58:57.625
[SPEAKER_03]: Yama.

58:57.908 --> 59:01.612
[SPEAKER_03]: I power charges, non-stop.

59:01.632 --> 59:01.892
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, really?

59:02.032 --> 59:03.894
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I actually, it was non-stop.

59:03.914 --> 59:08.019
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, so much so that I'm having to pay attention to my zombie counter.

59:08.399 --> 59:10.161
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm holding right trigger, which is for zombies.

59:10.882 --> 59:14.966
[SPEAKER_03]: And I always have 10, which means I don't even think they're exploding.

59:14.986 --> 59:19.431
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I'm making more before they even explode, which is actually bad.

59:20.332 --> 59:25.097
[SPEAKER_03]: So now I need to add feeding frenzy to it, because feeding frenzy means they take.

59:25.077 --> 59:32.207
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, at level three, they take 15% more damage instead of 20% more damage, so they'll die faster, but I actually need that.

59:32.708 --> 59:38.797
[SPEAKER_03]: But that's how that one node, and all I needed to do was one gem socket.

59:38.817 --> 59:40.459
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't have to change my build at all.

59:40.960 --> 59:46.528
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just cast one damage taken and three gems, and I have power charges for the rest of my life.

59:46.508 --> 59:47.049
[SPEAKER_03]: Awesome.

59:47.069 --> 59:50.514
[SPEAKER_03]: In a boss fight where there's only one boss, it's absolutely awesome.

59:50.795 --> 59:51.336
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's cool.

59:51.736 --> 59:53.138
[SPEAKER_03]: But I only discovered that last night.

59:53.759 --> 01:00:02.012
[SPEAKER_03]: So I stayed up to, which is why I'm having super crappy coffee because I stayed up till the end of the hour last night, make it it all work.

01:00:02.032 --> 01:00:03.835
[SPEAKER_03]: And then actually wanting to play with it.

01:00:03.935 --> 01:00:07.681
[SPEAKER_03]: But then it was, I had a really good path of Excel week.

01:00:08.042 --> 01:00:11.307
[SPEAKER_03]: I hate the league mechanic, which you want to talk about.

01:00:11.928 --> 01:00:12.769
[SPEAKER_03]: But

01:00:12.749 --> 01:00:16.133
[SPEAKER_03]: Ignoring the league mechanic and just going through the campaign so fun.

01:00:16.673 --> 01:00:20.237
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's just a problem with the stupid stuff in the game.

01:00:20.497 --> 01:00:24.522
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just that the league mechanic provides so much strength early on.

01:00:24.922 --> 01:00:32.170
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the ability to get all of your sockets up to three to get all of your items.

01:00:32.310 --> 01:00:33.411
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen one of those.

01:00:33.912 --> 01:00:35.053
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen them.

01:00:35.073 --> 01:00:36.154
[SPEAKER_00]: We're not doing the content.

01:00:36.594 --> 01:00:38.116
[SPEAKER_00]: You literally have to do the content.

01:00:38.136 --> 01:00:40.138
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I have to do the content myself to do the content.

01:00:40.198 --> 01:00:41.760
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just hating it.

01:00:41.740 --> 01:00:44.464
[SPEAKER_00]: you haven't seen any of the soccer ones because that's crazy for one.

01:00:45.106 --> 01:00:56.965
[SPEAKER_00]: I had a lot of them, not a lot of that when I had way more of the recall and exalt ones, but I did have enough to get any of the skills I wanted to to three granted that was during the campaign and now I'm screwed when I wanted to respect.

01:00:56.945 --> 01:01:12.996
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that the temple, it's exactly what I thought it was going to be, which was a flashback to whatever that league was where we did the same type of mechanic way back in PWE1 that I hated as well, synthesis.

01:01:12.976 --> 01:01:16.983
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not, it's not, they've made some changes to it.

01:01:17.083 --> 01:01:35.935
[SPEAKER_00]: But Jesus, I, I don't like to, I don't, I don't like to say that I agree on the Vembeen Rush, but it does not feel like they properly played it before it came out because no, that temple gives you zero information, like actually none.

01:01:36.095 --> 01:01:39.220
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was thinking in my head, I'm like, this is supposed to be core.

01:01:39.200 --> 01:01:43.124
[SPEAKER_00]: Like all the stuff we're doing right now, and some form is going to become core.

01:01:44.325 --> 01:01:48.910
[SPEAKER_00]: The process of building, I thought it was so cool because the process of building it was pretty fun.

01:01:48.930 --> 01:01:54.596
[SPEAKER_00]: I like the, I get the idea, but man, having it just like, poor friend of rooms.

01:01:55.257 --> 01:02:01.924
[SPEAKER_00]: And you have no idea, like it makes them a different version of green, but you don't actually know what helps another room.

01:02:02.024 --> 01:02:03.486
[SPEAKER_00]: Why am I, like,

01:02:03.685 --> 01:02:07.450
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just playing a game where I'm just moving it around so I see the numbers go up.

01:02:07.570 --> 01:02:07.891
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

01:02:08.412 --> 01:02:10.254
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm trying to put them in the right position.

01:02:10.374 --> 01:02:12.898
[SPEAKER_03]: Can we, after you apply something, you can change it?

01:02:13.539 --> 01:02:19.647
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, but when you're putting the room in, it'll tell you and green things and then a brighter green.

01:02:19.687 --> 01:02:21.931
[SPEAKER_00]: And when you put it in that one, something is leveling up.

01:02:22.031 --> 01:02:23.292
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the reasons is leveling up.

01:02:23.312 --> 01:02:27.278
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't have any understanding of why or how, like what's the best way for me to make.

01:02:27.298 --> 01:02:32.325
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I'm sure there's someone online who is figured it all out and there's some proper way to build a temple.

01:02:32.305 --> 01:02:34.389
[SPEAKER_00]: it is not intuitive at all.

01:02:34.529 --> 01:02:34.830
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

01:02:35.010 --> 01:02:41.283
[SPEAKER_00]: It then deletes your shit when you're done and now that I'm into mapping, I'm like, what do I, I don't need a regal?

01:02:41.764 --> 01:02:43.147
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need you.

01:02:43.167 --> 01:02:43.347
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:02:43.628 --> 01:02:48.257
[SPEAKER_00]: To, you know, I'm about taking an exalt one, but at least you can turn it into currency.

01:02:48.297 --> 01:02:49.199
[SPEAKER_00]: Now they did fix that.

01:02:49.660 --> 01:02:52.626
[SPEAKER_00]: So if I get an exalt one, I just turn it into an exalt, which is great.

01:02:52.606 --> 01:03:06.379
[SPEAKER_00]: But it is just more time consuming than it's worth in mapping and my biggest problem though is just how poorly it is to play like it's just it's not there's nothing that makes any sense to me

01:03:06.528 --> 01:03:29.599
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and also, and I told, I think we talked about this last week, I still can't believe that I can activate or run over the thing and have no clue what it just said because if I kill the mobs in the thing and it instantly just goes I'm like, what am I four of six, and what I want to click on it just to get like a box like this box for a little bit like as it stays away because I can't even see.

01:03:29.579 --> 01:03:43.599
[SPEAKER_00]: What they are but yeah, I think the idea behind it is fine like it's kind of fun But I don't know what I'm going to like the first time I bought the little architects pet or something I don't remember it was cool.

01:03:43.619 --> 01:03:58.540
[SPEAKER_00]: I did a boss fight the next time I load up the temple I'm like they deleted my entire temple what I how am I supposed what what is the method that I'm supposed to do to get to the end because they just keep taking away my stuff Or I try to understand it, but

01:03:58.520 --> 01:04:08.540
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, maybe, but it's the game's job to make you understand, to make you care, to let you know what your motivations are supposed to be, and not through like 80 pop-ups of dialogue.

01:04:09.282 --> 01:04:16.697
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, so back in the day, bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl-bl

01:04:17.015 --> 01:04:43.765
[SPEAKER_03]: B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B

01:04:43.745 --> 01:04:45.508
[SPEAKER_03]: You need to be able to just give them a pop up.

01:04:45.808 --> 01:04:53.701
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, like, you hit like down on the right analog stick or something and it shows you your details and it's like, oh, this sucks, but okay, I'll read through it just this one time.

01:04:53.721 --> 01:04:54.663
[SPEAKER_03]: So I know what's going on.

01:04:54.683 --> 01:05:03.036
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I agree that the temple, so two things, I hate league content that takes me out of my experience.

01:05:03.016 --> 01:05:08.124
[SPEAKER_03]: and I hate league content that makes me like okay stop, check, and I got to look at the map.

01:05:08.265 --> 01:05:19.483
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, where am I like Elvis Temple was so frustrating before in Path 1 and it's the same thing basically this time because you got it, okay, I did this room check, where's the map?

01:05:19.904 --> 01:05:21.987
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, now I got to check it, I like it.

01:05:21.967 --> 01:05:23.109
[SPEAKER_03]: up my favorite content.

01:05:23.129 --> 01:05:24.191
[SPEAKER_03]: Now there's just a personal thing.

01:05:24.211 --> 01:05:25.673
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not necessarily criticism.

01:05:25.693 --> 01:05:27.997
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just a criticism in terms of my personal preferences.

01:05:28.077 --> 01:05:34.628
[SPEAKER_03]: But I like content like strong boxes or what are the like the unique enemies that show up warlords?

01:05:34.668 --> 01:05:35.690
[SPEAKER_03]: Not always what is it called?

01:05:35.870 --> 01:05:36.731
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the rogue excels.

01:05:37.192 --> 01:05:40.438
[SPEAKER_03]: I like content even like a good control to this.

01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:43.563
[SPEAKER_03]: I like content that keeps me in the map.

01:05:43.583 --> 01:05:44.805
[SPEAKER_03]: Just keep me in the bloody map.

01:05:44.825 --> 01:05:46.708
[SPEAKER_03]: Stop making me go places.

01:05:46.857 --> 01:05:50.643
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think even more importantly, though, keeps you in the map killing stuff.

01:05:50.823 --> 01:05:53.608
[SPEAKER_00]: There's so much content now where I'm not killing stuff.

01:05:53.688 --> 01:05:56.032
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing something different, right?

01:05:56.372 --> 01:06:02.402
[SPEAKER_03]: And so, as much content as they're gonna add, when I get to endgame, you know what I'm investing in?

01:06:02.442 --> 01:06:09.473
[SPEAKER_03]: The content that keeps me in the game, which is, and I'm not talking like game, like Path of Exxon, I'm talking my map.

01:06:09.740 --> 01:06:28.744
[SPEAKER_03]: And so this is just one of those leagues that will never interest me and as it goes core, it will never interest me because I mean, how many years did it take path of exile to make the modifiers for your map impact the league content that took you to a separate area?

01:06:28.724 --> 01:06:40.661
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you would spend this whole time investing in your Atlas pass of tree for modifiers and everything, and then half of the game experience because it took you to another location, your Atlas pass of tree wouldn't even impact that.

01:06:41.242 --> 01:06:45.548
[SPEAKER_03]: And it took years for them to try and correlate the two and now they're doing the same thing again.

01:06:46.009 --> 01:06:55.322
[SPEAKER_03]: So hopefully they have a plan for how the Atlas pass of tree interacts with, you know, your mapping experience and makes it completely worth at a

01:06:55.302 --> 01:07:00.235
[SPEAKER_03]: But one thing that they did do a very good job of with this one for someone like me, because I'm a right wall hugger.

01:07:00.416 --> 01:07:07.234
[SPEAKER_03]: I go in and I don't want to check the map every time I kill an enemy or I feel like I've cleared a room.

01:07:07.254 --> 01:07:09.560
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to always check to see where I'm at.

01:07:10.222 --> 01:07:11.826
[SPEAKER_03]: If I just hug the right.

01:07:11.806 --> 01:07:12.307
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm good.

01:07:12.507 --> 01:07:19.137
[SPEAKER_03]: With the exception of the boss being available to me for fighting, if I just hug the right, I will eventually hit every room.

01:07:19.778 --> 01:07:20.298
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's good.

01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:27.689
[SPEAKER_03]: And as soon as I enter a room that needs to be cleared to get the benefit, it actually doesn't let me leave until I've cleared the room.

01:07:28.210 --> 01:07:33.257
[SPEAKER_03]: So I can't just hug the right and then I miss a room because I've

01:07:33.237 --> 01:07:35.420
[SPEAKER_03]: just kept hugging the right and I didn't clear everybody.

01:07:35.901 --> 01:07:37.743
[SPEAKER_03]: It actually prevents me from going through the door.

01:07:37.803 --> 01:07:39.606
[SPEAKER_03]: So they've actually done that really well.

01:07:39.686 --> 01:07:43.912
[SPEAKER_03]: So I've actually been able to do the content in a fun apathetic way.

01:07:44.513 --> 01:07:47.157
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still not enjoying it and I'd still don't find it worthwhile.

01:07:47.798 --> 01:07:57.912
[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, they thankfully have fixed the issues with that, but like trapping me in a room, and I had a bunch of crazy raving forearm tape that I couldn't kill.

01:07:57.892 --> 01:07:59.294
[SPEAKER_00]: They were untargetable.

01:07:59.314 --> 01:08:01.017
[SPEAKER_00]: They just ran straight at me.

01:08:01.057 --> 01:08:02.720
[SPEAKER_00]: There was nothing I could do and I'm trapped in the room.

01:08:03.341 --> 01:08:04.644
[SPEAKER_00]: And I couldn't do anything.

01:08:04.664 --> 01:08:05.425
[SPEAKER_00]: There was nothing I could do.

01:08:05.485 --> 01:08:06.567
[SPEAKER_00]: I lost the temple to it.

01:08:06.687 --> 01:08:07.929
[SPEAKER_00]: Now they fixed it since then.

01:08:07.969 --> 01:08:09.532
[SPEAKER_00]: But again, how do you lose a temple?

01:08:09.692 --> 01:08:10.614
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have to die enough?

01:08:12.196 --> 01:08:15.662
[SPEAKER_00]: I had once you leave it, resets, or I don't remember what I had.

01:08:15.682 --> 01:08:18.988
[SPEAKER_00]: Or no, I couldn't complete it because what happened is I would.

01:08:18.968 --> 01:08:41.972
[SPEAKER_00]: I tried portaling out and then I tried and run back in, but that room was locked off and I had to get through that room to get to the next room, but if I entered that room, these monkeys Were considered mobs and I couldn't do anything So now is it because of a glitch or were they just do as they fix it apparently these monkeys weren't supposed to come out of the cages like there

01:08:42.121 --> 01:08:43.363
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I don't know how that works.

01:08:45.286 --> 01:08:48.592
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand how all of a sudden becomes a mob for me not allowed to leave.

01:08:48.652 --> 01:08:53.620
[SPEAKER_00]: But I just, I think the idea behind the temples really cool.

01:08:53.660 --> 01:08:55.283
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I actually think there's some power in it.

01:08:55.523 --> 01:08:58.548
[SPEAKER_00]: It was actually super useful when I was going through the campaign.

01:08:58.728 --> 01:09:00.231
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually thought this is great.

01:09:00.271 --> 01:09:07.723
[SPEAKER_00]: I can get some, my stuff all the way

01:09:07.703 --> 01:09:10.868
[SPEAKER_00]: It just became less interesting as I got in 10 game.

01:09:10.928 --> 01:09:12.590
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they've made a bunch more changes.

01:09:12.610 --> 01:09:14.773
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't tested it since they did that.

01:09:15.294 --> 01:09:25.128
[SPEAKER_00]: But I, okay, I was playing with, remember we talked about that one notable where I could put a sector on with a talisman.

01:09:25.148 --> 01:09:30.196
[SPEAKER_00]: But there was the 50% spirit reduction, sorry, 50% less spirit.

01:09:30.716 --> 01:09:33.981
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was playing with that mainly for

01:09:33.961 --> 01:09:53.180
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to see if I could still keep enough mana or sorry, still keep enough spirit with using that skill to get my two things that I wanted running, my two spirit gems running, but the benefit would be I could bump up my specifically mana regeneration because for the shaman mana regeneration also increases my rage regeneration.

01:09:53.240 --> 01:09:55.002
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was curious if it still make it worthwhile.

01:09:55.022 --> 01:10:02.449
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like I needed a ton of spirit, but there is a lot that you can

01:10:02.429 --> 01:10:11.923
[SPEAKER_00]: They introduced, now, I don't know if I'm wrong, I don't know if I'm missing something, whenceptors were originally in the game, like they came out with the game.

01:10:11.983 --> 01:10:14.227
[SPEAKER_00]: We played them right off the get-go.

01:10:14.808 --> 01:10:23.661
[SPEAKER_00]: You, I, quality, I don't think they either existed to put quality on to them yet, but quality didn't do anything on ones andceptors.

01:10:23.641 --> 01:10:25.826
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they came up with a separate item for them.

01:10:25.846 --> 01:10:33.483
[SPEAKER_00]: Which they have now, it's the artifice or something or whatever it is that allows you to equality onto ones and toceptors.

01:10:33.904 --> 01:10:39.116
[SPEAKER_00]: And unless I'm missing something, quality onceptors increase the spirit.

01:10:40.419 --> 01:10:41.762
[SPEAKER_00]: Am I thinking that?

01:10:41.782 --> 01:10:43.185
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I've never used them.

01:10:43.165 --> 01:10:45.491
[SPEAKER_03]: So, I have, well, you've used sectors.

01:10:46.193 --> 01:10:48.619
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but never, I've never improved the quality of it.

01:10:48.639 --> 01:10:49.421
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, get enough of it.

01:10:49.562 --> 01:10:51.507
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, then I change my mind on something.

01:10:51.547 --> 01:10:57.302
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's actually another reason why the valve thing's nice, because you can make quality onto stuff, uh, getting on 20% quality's nice.

01:10:57.903 --> 01:10:59.267
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but, uh,

01:10:59.585 --> 01:11:10.386
[SPEAKER_00]: quality on a sector, I swear to God, lastly, quality on a sector, because I was using them, increase the amount of spirit, because what else would it do on a sector?

01:11:10.466 --> 01:11:14.413
[SPEAKER_00]: The sector doesn't do anything except provide spirit and then stats.

01:11:14.674 --> 01:11:18.521
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a weapon, there's no damage to it or whatever, right?

01:11:18.541 --> 01:11:20.445
[SPEAKER_00]: So what else would it increase?

01:11:20.425 --> 01:11:28.240
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I'm a little bit annoyed because I had thought that when I quality this particular sector, it would get me up to enough spirit.

01:11:28.341 --> 01:11:38.040
[SPEAKER_00]: I ended up being two-spirit short with the sector, but I couldn't understand why from zero percent to 20 percent the man I never or the spirit never increased on the sector.

01:11:38.601 --> 01:11:40.645
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you go in-game,

01:11:40.625 --> 01:11:46.451
[SPEAKER_00]: and click on quality, they don't even talk about what quality does to sectors or wants.

01:11:46.812 --> 01:11:55.922
[SPEAKER_00]: It's weird because I feel like they've revered it back to what it was in point one, because I am so, so, so certain that in point two or point three, I could quality.

01:11:55.962 --> 01:11:59.606
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember ones, but I could quality sectors and get something out of it.

01:12:00.146 --> 01:12:07.054
[SPEAKER_00]: And in my head, I'm going like, how have you guys introduced the art officer, which allows you to quality both ones and sectors?

01:12:07.034 --> 01:12:23.389
[SPEAKER_00]: But then in the quality right up, you don't even say what quality, you talk about what quality we'll do to martial weapons, what quality we'll do to armor, but it doesn't say anything about sectors and say to what all it made me, all it bothered me about it was it just seemed very peo we want to.

01:12:23.849 --> 01:12:26.071
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we have a lot of an update.

01:12:26.271 --> 01:12:29.374
[SPEAKER_00]: S. H. E. D. D. Russia did it.

01:12:29.975 --> 01:12:30.495
[SPEAKER_00]: Russia did it.

01:12:31.016 --> 01:12:35.860
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I just was like, I'm certain you guys

01:12:35.840 --> 01:12:46.133
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you haven't, why is there an artificer or why is there an orb that allows me to put quality onto the one and the sector and it does nothing, which I know it did that in the beginning.

01:12:46.253 --> 01:12:49.297
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember that because being like, what am I quality in this for anyway?

01:12:49.317 --> 01:12:53.862
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, and it really, it really irritates me because it screwed me over.

01:12:54.243 --> 01:13:04.075
[SPEAKER_00]: But then talking about quality, there's some skills with controller when we hit down on the, but is it the left thing to see

01:13:04.055 --> 01:13:05.297
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, you know what I'm talking about?

01:13:05.437 --> 01:13:07.860
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know I don't know which one of this, but I know what you mean.

01:13:08.040 --> 01:13:15.730
[SPEAKER_00]: But that more info screen has you noticed that some skills don't show what quality will do so that you're 100%.

01:13:16.090 --> 01:13:17.552
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, some skills don't show anything.

01:13:18.052 --> 01:13:19.014
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, but how do I know?

01:13:19.474 --> 01:13:30.828
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually thought what they did this, this league with the, um, I don't know if it's specific to controller, but where you hold down X to bring up the information and having all little tabs on the right hand side, I don't remember that.

01:13:30.889 --> 01:13:32.070
[SPEAKER_00]: I still haven't seen that.

01:13:32.050 --> 01:13:35.078
[SPEAKER_00]: I was showing Logan it and he was like, wow, that's actually awesome.

01:13:35.098 --> 01:13:36.963
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll have to show it to you later what I'm talking about.

01:13:37.404 --> 01:13:48.574
[SPEAKER_00]: But it is really useful and literally in one spot has all of the little tabs, all the things that are related to that skill, and you can cycle through them and move through the different damage types or whatever.

01:13:48.773 --> 01:13:52.922
[SPEAKER_03]: I wrote up two bug reports this week about they're not being proper information for skills.

01:13:52.962 --> 01:13:54.365
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm wondering what's in there.

01:13:54.605 --> 01:13:59.515
[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder what we have to see because I'm curious if there's some more information in that particular spot.

01:14:00.938 --> 01:14:08.875
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, my playthrough has not been the greatest of weeks, but I yesterday decided I'm like, all right, after I...

01:14:08.855 --> 01:14:10.518
[SPEAKER_00]: How about a little bitch session with you?

01:14:11.039 --> 01:14:12.381
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I'm just going to switch it up.

01:14:12.842 --> 01:14:18.312
[SPEAKER_00]: I am really, really liking the place out of the wolf better than the bear, which is too bad because I really like the bear.

01:14:18.352 --> 01:14:20.176
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the thick chunky.

01:14:20.216 --> 01:14:23.862
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you like your big swords, but you also hate slow.

01:14:24.363 --> 01:14:31.135
[SPEAKER_03]: So to me, the shapeshifting for you is at that awkward, you have to pick one or the other, you can't have both.

01:14:31.155 --> 01:14:32.618
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't do this.

01:14:32.868 --> 01:14:48.025
[SPEAKER_00]: You're picking speed, which is vital for you versus the big bear, which, in essence, is the big so I wish that I could, I wish I had recorded it so I could show you some of the things that would happen, but I really, really, really liked.

01:14:48.005 --> 01:14:50.610
[SPEAKER_00]: this massive a we tied with rampage.

01:14:50.670 --> 01:14:51.833
[SPEAKER_00]: I was having so much fun with it.

01:14:51.913 --> 01:15:02.635
[SPEAKER_00]: The bear goes rears up and then just starts stomping and what you could do with that with damage felt really good, but rampage I don't think they played with rampage.

01:15:02.855 --> 01:15:03.617
[SPEAKER_00]: It's

01:15:03.597 --> 01:15:10.469
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when you sprint, if you bump into a wall, you're kind of like stumble the sprint or it doesn't work.

01:15:10.489 --> 01:15:11.230
[SPEAKER_00]: That wasn't me.

01:15:12.252 --> 01:15:12.733
[SPEAKER_00]: That was me.

01:15:13.034 --> 01:15:14.396
[SPEAKER_00]: Rampage is that all the time.

01:15:14.817 --> 01:15:17.581
[SPEAKER_00]: So you hold rampage and you're now moving at sprint speed.

01:15:18.122 --> 01:15:21.969
[SPEAKER_00]: But like if you hit a wall, you get knocked out of it.

01:15:22.069 --> 01:15:25.335
[SPEAKER_00]: If you get hit by a mob, you get knocked out of it.

01:15:26.699 --> 01:15:29.344
[SPEAKER_00]: That shouldn't happen, that is my damage.

01:15:29.805 --> 01:15:32.690
[SPEAKER_00]: I just use the skill that is supposed to do my damage.

01:15:33.271 --> 01:15:42.148
[SPEAKER_00]: And if a wall is now taking me out of that damage type and I've got a one and a half second cast to get back off my fucking legs to do it again, it makes not fun.

01:15:42.308 --> 01:15:45.795
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, this is the part I really wish I had recorded for you.

01:15:46.256 --> 01:15:50.023
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you'll hold rampage and I think the game actually like,

01:15:50.003 --> 01:16:18.137
[SPEAKER_00]: Strokes in the middle of you hitting the rampage because your your bear will rear up and the camera won't move and your bear Imagine like the screen is the same but your your character is over to the left like my rampage has started to move But it's not following him and I'm like what the fuck and then it just goes in it gets you back up like it's just it's not When you're gonna add little things that we can't run past and you're gonna put things in little hallways

01:16:18.117 --> 01:16:28.112
[SPEAKER_00]: A skill like rampage only works if you're going to make me like phase while I'm doing it or something because there were so many times where I'm like That I just did it.

01:16:28.132 --> 01:16:31.958
[SPEAKER_00]: I just did my rearing on the back legs and I instantly get bumped out of it.

01:16:32.518 --> 01:16:33.279
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I got to do it again.

01:16:33.420 --> 01:16:34.341
[SPEAKER_00]: I just it wasn't fun.

01:16:34.441 --> 01:16:45.137
[SPEAKER_00]: So the wolf has seen me in more my style right now.

01:16:45.623 --> 01:16:48.146
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and the oracle thing I think is really cool.

01:16:48.226 --> 01:16:48.647
[SPEAKER_00]: I like it.

01:16:48.747 --> 01:16:59.500
[SPEAKER_00]: The one thing that bothered me a little bit though was I don't I don't know if I'm hopeful they go that direction more often I it's weird to me to take stuff on the tree that is specific to a class.

01:17:00.161 --> 01:17:07.750
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure on that one like I played around with a little bit is really cool a completely shifts on my tree which is kind of cool but also.

01:17:08.185 --> 01:17:14.482
[SPEAKER_03]: I only get this if on the Oracle, like, it has an frozen cause I can't decide where I fall on it either.

01:17:14.522 --> 01:17:17.169
[SPEAKER_03]: It's one of those where it couples you.

01:17:17.811 --> 01:17:23.646
[SPEAKER_03]: It does give you a variety because, like, for example, for me, there were two or three clusters that were minion specific, and I'm like, okay.

01:17:23.626 --> 01:17:42.664
[SPEAKER_03]: and they, even like, one thing that I actually really liked about the Oracle is that there was, so some of my criticisms to the tree currently that date back all the way to the release is there's not enough connection points from like the middle path to the outside path.

01:17:42.644 --> 01:17:53.036
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I find that I keep taking the same paths to get to, even if it's different clusters, I keep taking the same paths over and over because there's just, there's not enough that connects clusters to clusters.

01:17:53.677 --> 01:17:57.722
[SPEAKER_03]: The oral has a really cool, like, oral connection.

01:17:57.782 --> 01:18:04.129
[SPEAKER_03]: Where it actually connects the clusters, almost like shortcuts, and I'm like,

01:18:04.109 --> 01:18:04.790
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that's cool.

01:18:04.810 --> 01:18:27.737
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't need to take 12 cluster or 12 notables to go or 12 sorry passive points to go around there's four and those four they're just not like attribute highways they're they're strong nodes high risk high reward nodes but cool like I actually really like that yeah but the idea of having that many clusters only for one I like

01:18:27.717 --> 01:18:34.106
[SPEAKER_03]: It definitely makes those times worth it for the Oracle, like to, yes, point, but yeah.

01:18:34.126 --> 01:18:41.075
[SPEAKER_03]: It's, but it's interesting because now you're coupling all these extra nodes, they're in lieu of other nodes on the tree.

01:18:41.636 --> 01:18:50.448
[SPEAKER_03]: But then what else is, I don't know, like I had a real 50, that it was a really tough decision for me to be Oracle or Shaman or Lich.

01:18:51.309 --> 01:18:54.433
[SPEAKER_03]: And so to meet

01:18:54.413 --> 01:19:01.420
[SPEAKER_03]: But you don't want to get to the point where you feel like you have to be a certain build because of the clusters that are available.

01:19:01.960 --> 01:19:03.762
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I didn't look for any other clusters.

01:19:03.802 --> 01:19:05.424
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what else is available to it.

01:19:06.104 --> 01:19:10.388
[SPEAKER_03]: I only looked minion and minion-wise, it was tempting.

01:19:11.209 --> 01:19:12.290
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is good.

01:19:12.330 --> 01:19:14.192
[SPEAKER_03]: But I had to do some math on the side.

01:19:14.492 --> 01:19:15.974
[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, it was.

01:19:16.054 --> 01:19:19.817
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm curious to see what other builds, how they struggle with it or not.

01:19:19.877 --> 01:19:21.619
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sure it'll change.

01:19:21.599 --> 01:19:24.804
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, like, thematically because they do care about lore.

01:19:25.165 --> 01:19:29.712
[SPEAKER_03]: What other kind of ascensions can you think of that would be like a monk?

01:19:29.912 --> 01:19:35.701
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess could have some sort of forethought or like meditation style skill.

01:19:35.762 --> 01:19:36.823
[SPEAKER_03]: They could do that on the east.

01:19:37.444 --> 01:19:43.133
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure you have one on the, you know, the south side of the tree and the northeast side of the tree.

01:19:43.754 --> 01:19:44.936
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure, you probably have one, right?

01:19:45.717 --> 01:19:46.138
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:19:46.118 --> 01:20:07.468
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm I'm excited to at least get back in and try it now that I made this switch because I was done after I messed it up like I'm going in shrouded like this is not worth my time, but I do I am enjoying the wolf play style so far so we'll see I don't think it's going to keep me that long the the thing is like there is just a relatively lack.

01:20:07.448 --> 01:20:12.076
[SPEAKER_00]: uh, lacking amount of stuff to do in n-game right now, and which is fine.

01:20:12.697 --> 01:20:22.154
[SPEAKER_00]: I still wish the campaign was shorter because I really would like to try the new Sorceress build, but for a Sorceress's ascendancy, but I can just cannot bring myself to do the freaking campaign again.

01:20:22.795 --> 01:20:23.196
[SPEAKER_00]: So...

01:20:23.176 --> 01:20:24.718
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's pretty frustrating.

01:20:25.299 --> 01:20:26.881
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I'm curious.

01:20:27.602 --> 01:20:30.546
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you, as, because the shapeshifting didn't interest me?

01:20:31.147 --> 01:20:40.680
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, is there a benefit to staying in one form or are all the benefits for shapeshifting shapeshifting in general?

01:20:41.020 --> 01:20:45.786
[SPEAKER_03]: Or are there like wolf specific benefits bear specific benefits, dragon specific benefits?

01:20:45.806 --> 01:20:49.251
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they all have passives like just for being in that form.

01:20:49.231 --> 01:20:55.660
[SPEAKER_00]: that you get and then you can depend on what you do with the tree and stuff get stuff that when you shape shifter.

01:20:55.720 --> 01:21:07.176
[SPEAKER_00]: When you go to human form, I just don't I take stuff that it's like when I'm shapeshift that I'm getting to benefit but not when I'm changing between because I I tried early on to be like, oh, it's cool.

01:21:07.196 --> 01:21:09.940
[SPEAKER_00]: Swap to embed or wolf, blah, blah do this.

01:21:09.920 --> 01:21:11.883
[SPEAKER_00]: that you can't, like it just doesn't work.

01:21:11.923 --> 01:21:13.245
[SPEAKER_00]: There's not enough skills.

01:21:13.285 --> 01:21:25.865
[SPEAKER_00]: It was too annoying to try and go into human form, which is I think for me the biggest sad part of all of it was like I looked forward to the human to bear sort of playstyle of being both and swapping between the two.

01:21:25.965 --> 01:21:26.887
[SPEAKER_00]: It just doesn't work though.

01:21:27.368 --> 01:21:29.852
[SPEAKER_00]: The human side was it was too slow on there also.

01:21:30.473 --> 01:21:31.354
[SPEAKER_00]: So

01:21:31.334 --> 01:21:31.895
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

01:21:32.015 --> 01:21:36.641
[SPEAKER_03]: But there wasn't anything that's like, when in wolf form, it was always when shapeshift shapeshift, right?

01:21:36.681 --> 01:21:37.562
[SPEAKER_03]: It was always generic.

01:21:37.622 --> 01:21:45.292
[SPEAKER_03]: So are you finding that you're staying as a wolf specifically because of the movement speed or are you just enjoying the skills more?

01:21:45.312 --> 01:21:52.101
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I could kind of picture the whole druid thing, not being about the form you're in, but about which skill is which.

01:21:52.121 --> 01:21:59.130
[SPEAKER_03]: So you know, X is one skill, Y is one skill, and who cares what

01:21:59.110 --> 01:22:01.873
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, with the skill will change what form you're in.

01:22:02.414 --> 01:22:11.604
[SPEAKER_00]: So for me, I, when I was playing the bear, I stayed as the bear because I could make it quite tanky and I liked it and I would use pounds to just jump around as the wolf.

01:22:12.566 --> 01:22:15.229
[SPEAKER_00]: Now that I'm playing as the wolf, I am just staying as the wolf.

01:22:15.629 --> 01:22:16.971
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm moving faster.

01:22:17.071 --> 01:22:27.683
[SPEAKER_00]: It's more, it feels like a faster playstyle, which I like a little bit,

01:22:27.663 --> 01:22:56.590
[SPEAKER_00]: speed and then also the the combination of the rampage was just unfortunate because so many times it didn't work and I'm like that is If I'm not when I'm doing that, I'm just a sitting bear like I there's nothing else I'm doing so Yeah, we'll see because I tell you I'm running currently on like seven skills and seven supports, so It can only get better than what I'm currently doing That's why I'm excited to get more supports for and actually try it and yeah sure cool

01:22:56.705 --> 01:22:59.439
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, um, glad you came back into it.

01:22:59.700 --> 01:23:02.715
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, hopefully you still enjoy it just about sake of your time.

01:23:02.763 --> 01:23:14.377
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm hopeful that there is some fun to it because there is definitely a part of it where I go like I don't play, but then I feel like I need to play so we can talk about it, but I will get to a point where I'm just like, no, I can't put myself through this anymore.

01:23:14.477 --> 01:23:19.603
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm hopeful for this, this the wolf version, I love freezing stuff and makes of cool.

01:23:19.643 --> 01:23:21.125
[SPEAKER_00]: Their animations are so good.

01:23:21.185 --> 01:23:23.127
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the the game looks so cool.

01:23:23.748 --> 01:23:26.771
[SPEAKER_00]: The, you know, I have really enjoyed that part of it.

01:23:27.092 --> 01:23:29.935
[SPEAKER_00]: When I played with the Logan, we were both

01:23:29.915 --> 01:23:33.039
[SPEAKER_00]: buddy, you couldn't see the anything on the screen.

01:23:33.700 --> 01:23:35.262
[SPEAKER_00]: He was saying anything with one drool.

01:23:35.282 --> 01:23:36.303
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this one.

01:23:36.323 --> 01:23:39.147
[SPEAKER_00]: I even, even Logan, his, he's playing on the computer beside me.

01:23:39.187 --> 01:23:40.208
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like dad look.

01:23:40.809 --> 01:23:43.312
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I mean, it's an old, a little bit older machine.

01:23:43.392 --> 01:23:45.375
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was not keeping up.

01:23:45.415 --> 01:23:49.940
[SPEAKER_00]: The kid is like throwing fishers on the ground and I'm rampaging around.

01:23:50.581 --> 01:23:55.247
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just fire, just pulse like

01:23:55.227 --> 01:23:57.635
[SPEAKER_00]: So bright across the entire ground.

01:23:57.655 --> 01:23:59.862
[SPEAKER_00]: We were doing us up with the fight the viper lady.

01:24:00.404 --> 01:24:07.026
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah try to say like don't stand in something She's like I can't see it anyway

01:24:07.597 --> 01:24:08.578
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, great.

01:24:09.218 --> 01:24:20.809
[SPEAKER_03]: Funny enough, that's my restriction with infusions, a lot of the skills that give infusion to give chilled ground or ignited ground or I'm like, well, I'm not going to do that because I want to stay alive.

01:24:20.829 --> 01:24:21.709
[SPEAKER_03]: I need to see what's up.

01:24:22.210 --> 01:24:22.450
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

01:24:22.490 --> 01:24:30.257
[SPEAKER_03]: So, already, my, yeah, it's interesting that there, there's no clarity has left the building.

01:24:30.757 --> 01:24:31.198
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.

01:24:31.398 --> 01:24:31.938
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

01:24:31.959 --> 01:24:33.059
[SPEAKER_03]: They fired that person.

01:24:33.560 --> 01:24:37.063
[SPEAKER_03]: The person whose title was visual clarity, they're like, nope.

01:24:37.043 --> 01:24:48.000
[SPEAKER_00]: No, not a part of the job description anymore, if you go see watch walking calamity a brand new skill that they introduce this league and say that they're trying to keep Visual clarity is something that's important.

01:24:48.020 --> 01:24:48.981
[SPEAKER_00]: No, you're not it.

01:24:49.442 --> 01:24:54.370
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't see anything literally can't see anything But whatever, it's all stuff guys.

01:24:55.031 --> 01:24:55.431
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh nice nice.

01:24:56.373 --> 01:24:56.453
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah

01:24:56.433 --> 01:24:57.034
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, buddy.

01:24:57.134 --> 01:24:57.734
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's wrap this up.

01:24:57.754 --> 01:24:58.875
[SPEAKER_00]: Merry Christmas to everybody.

01:24:58.915 --> 01:25:06.922
[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully you enjoy your holiday time with some family or friends and We'll see everybody next time forever excelled three.

01:25:06.942 --> 01:25:07.543
[SPEAKER_00]: What is this?

01:25:07.563 --> 01:25:09.805
[SPEAKER_00]: 324 forever excelled 324 Christmas edition.

01:25:10.185 --> 01:25:10.986
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just naked tags.

01:25:11.567 --> 01:25:12.888
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Tyler record of days.

01:25:13.368 --> 01:25:14.569
[SPEAKER_00]: Patrons will see you in after that.

01:25:14.629 --> 01:25:26.440
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody else will see you next week after Christmas in the in-between week.

01:25:26.420 --> 01:25:27.321
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll get out.

01:25:27.722 --> 01:25:28.503
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, look at us.

01:25:28.643 --> 01:25:31.708
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we have this conversation, definitely every part of the game.

01:25:31.788 --> 01:25:38.758
[SPEAKER_03]: I think what you telling me then me telling you the person's always like, no way Probably the sounds were right.

01:25:38.778 --> 01:25:40.480
[SPEAKER_00]: Patreon's a little catch you and after dark everybody else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will see you website forever XO.com discord's very fun popping there say hello 21 21 in game hit the five star on Spotify and Apple Patreon on the way support podcasts are also down below

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[SPEAKER_00]: Merry Christmas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's sing a quick Christmas Carol.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay?

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[SPEAKER_04]: V1, 2, 3, 4!