April 12, 2026

Simplifying Time

Simplifying Time
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In episode 340 we get, in a wonderfully round about way, as most conversations go, well, the good conversations anyway, straight to the point of time well spent. GGG have changed how much time they hope from us each time we sit down, and depending on how long you've been playing Path of Exile, you may have seen that change a lot! That reminds me! I remember this one time, long ago, when we were sitting down at one of our houses, I forget who's...

Episode 340 of Forever Exiled is a perfect snapshot of life, randomness, and gaming all colliding in the best way possible.

Tagz and Wrecker kick things off with everything from Easter weekends and family time to puppy training, old movies, and even space exploration, as one of them gets fully hooked on a live NASA stream. It’s one of those weeks where real life takes over… but in a good way.

On the gaming side, the conversation weaves through Path of Exile, private league planning, and the current state of both PoE1 and PoE2. The duo reflects on how juggling two versions of the same game can feel, especially when one offers a better core experience while the other still carries more content depth. They also share details about their upcoming community private league, including the unique Scion-only twist and why timing matters with all the shifting updates.

There’s also a mix of other gaming talk, including trying (and failing) to get into more complex titles after long days, revisiting older games, and finding that balance between wanting to play and just being mentally done.

As always, it’s less about structure and more about the conversation. Life, games, and whatever else comes up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Forever XL.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just an AK tags and I'm Tyler record of days It is episode 340 of our podcast called Forever XL.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just slurped into Mike.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm even here So I'm gonna be taking that one out if they did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a good slurper than I'm a good slurper

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[SPEAKER_01]: big show to a patreon saying so everybody who resubbed up this past week patreon gets access to afterdarks or podcasts after the podcast where Tyler and I just keep it's just the two of us if our close day and we get to be joined i wish that's like the only part of the song i knew i know we're doing we can oh and then it's just the two of us yeah you repeat and then you and you and i nailed it and that's probably the only four lines of the whole song i think that's how they

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's like we're listening to family friendly music and it's like All about sex.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this is staying the night with people and it's like, oh, I love your body Oh, I can this is what's on the family friends because there's no squares doesn't matter the content But it's not because I want to f you yeah, it's I want to it's I want to screw you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's totally right much more polite Yeah, the kids don't get anything else that it's a totally different situation in the kids

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[SPEAKER_02]: When we were watching Wicked too the other day because it came out for free on streaming I always hate those news articles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh new on streaming go blah, but it's like 25 bucks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It just means you can This is wicked was wicked Disney or maybe not yeah, and they are arch even with a Disney.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no so

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was Disney.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, though, like, well, like, there's things like on cray, you have to have whatever it's like new two streaming, but it means you can bring it to your house, but sure, it's a purchase.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we could two came out free on streaming for free for us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Time to go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We watched a bit of go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: but I was surprised, there was a song, though it had a really good foreshadowing to it, but unfortunately it was all about like wanting each other, staying the night together, and then they even like wake up under the covers together, which was like, oh, such a wizard of all those movie guys, like, you could do something else, like you don't have to, so anyway.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But there was that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, but it's it was a good song and it's spoilery, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's stuff that my daughter and my son really like about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then they love like they're always listening to music when it's it's when it's bedtime and they're going through the bedtime routine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so they have of course songs that are allowed to and not listen to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is the first time in a Disney song and a Disney movie as far as I know that I've said

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just because what they sing about actually puts it in your head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's a name where you're talking about what they're planning on doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just that I can think back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think kids just sing along and don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I look back now at some of the songs I remember singing on two when we were like...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like early high school and high school and now I listen to the words and I'm like whoa How did that get through exactly?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time I remember notice it though the lyrics still and I'm like oh my goodness like I remember this man Naws Yeah, I remember this thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember he's talking about how real gangsters eff and broad daylight and I'm like Great seven

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's where I'm at this place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But who's plaid turning it up really loud and tell somebody what it's like?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did, did, did, did dammit?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How's good to be a gangster?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we did say happy at Easter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also, I said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, did we say happy Easter?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, just in case we didn't, or, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is your first time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We said happy Easter to you last week and you weren't here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, up yours.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, um, season screenings.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this week for me, if I'm going first, was really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's another one of those weeks where I felt like we just talked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I'm already sick of you, but I agree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I have had

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[SPEAKER_02]: Artemis to the Orion spaceship on the computer upstairs, nonstop like my my electrical bill is going to be huge because it's just been tabbed with so NASA has a live feed that's basically been going on since April 1st, which is awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Showing most of the time as much as they can, the external cameras of the ships and things like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But of course, when they're actually going through the moments, then they start showing different things like that's happening in the space center and all that kind of stuff as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of the live communications between them, they're landing today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The day that we're recording is the day they're coming into land.

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[SPEAKER_02]: but it's been nonstop and it's cool because I remember and I was four or five when I forget the name of the spaceship exploded on takeoff like I'm needed after takeoff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was watching it live with my dad because we were in this uh we were only a one-hour difference when you're living in Toronto then and

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I was really young.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of those things that you don't but I remember it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember and I remember hearing my dad's gasp and then criticizing the announcers for like not cutting away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But that was also back in the day when like a streaker would come onto the field like a soccer field and a football field and it's like the camera would follow them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it wasn't all about like that kind of stuff then.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway it was...

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I like, I vividly remember that, but also I've been so into this kind of stuff and trying to show the kids and these opportunities haven't really come up because I've been doing them, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I've had it on non-stop, call the kids when it's time for stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What my daughter doesn't give a crap about anything and my son's like interested, he wants to know the stats, he's like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like it's just fun, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I've added up non-stop.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then the yeah, that with puppy trading and all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I've just I've been feeling my time with all really fun and wonderful things, but not the typical things because I've been staying But it might sound weird on a video game podcast, but I've been staring at the screen a lot more than I used to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: George haven't been getting done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, it's been a really good really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So life is life is good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My wife had six days off in a row.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, nice for some reason So you don't know why it's probably because she thinks I'm sexy and just can't get enough of me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean No other option.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think any further.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, I mean she's been kind of a lot staying the night elsewhere, but she really leads me though

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, how about this extra laundry to do lately?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure where it's coming from.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you guys do anything?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was just hanging out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We had a really good time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just awesome, good family time stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Spanging a lot more time at the dog park now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The dastores a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Has a little bit more brains.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, how's he?

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[SPEAKER_02]: He looks very chill right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's really, really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a fantastic dog.

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[SPEAKER_02]: the main thing that we're working on right now is his focus on us when there's other dogs around but it's hard because we want him to socialize but we're not gonna let him get close if he's pulling on the leash and of course those are counterintuitive when you're trying to do both and not at all so we're doing what we can with it and it's doing really well we brought him to my mom's house and she's terrified of big dogs but she's trying so hard for us and I've

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[SPEAKER_02]: you don't need to care about our dog.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I get excited for dogs and I think it's fun when other people get excited for other people's things, but I don't have an expectation at anyone else in this world is ever supposed to care about my dog.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like if every other person in my life, friends, family was like, I don't care.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that shouldn't offend me in my world, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got a dog for me there and violent and all of her, this is nothing to do with anyone else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and but my mom's trying really hard and i'm like if you'd never want like we can keep asked her at home every time we come visit we can keep asked like don't feel bad she was trying so hard she asked me to take uh to bring the dog for Easter dinner ma which was and yeah it was good my uh my my two cousin or my yeah my two cousins with there and uh

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it the because he's Clueless and dumb and yappy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He kind of monopolized the entire afternoon, which I didn't want, but He was still good training for him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Good exposure, but it was and being in another house with another dog and all the smell And it's been good, and that's a lot of rambling that nobody cares about but me so it was a great week in space With my dog is it cow?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it cow weak staring at the dog or is the cat just actually staring straight at the dog?

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's just chilling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was just resting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay

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[SPEAKER_01]: Looks like she's just like eyeing down the dog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, that's good, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he likes to eat them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the cats...

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[SPEAKER_02]: He'll take, just in a place.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he takes the entire head or back and the whole thing fits in his giant giant, found the cats are soaked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They ran under the tap, not touched the tap, but ran under it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're a little unedge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here and a weird noise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm recording with my window open, because it's the last day of beautiful days, apparently.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, what is last day?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's 20 days today, which is nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to trust my grass is growing in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My grass is getting thick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about yours in a second, but you brought up grass, because you said weather.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My grass.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, let's talk about your day first and then we'll do thick grass.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we should just skip grass.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I thought you had a guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you had to skip the last day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, yeah, no, I was going to get black day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you skip no drinking day?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't been drinking, man, so...

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, is that skipping note?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's not skipping, I don't know what I'm just saying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't drink, but I skip no drinking day often.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, smart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now my week was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was very full, but good, we have... What happened?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was him the whole time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Look at those like handle doors, not knob door handles, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but there's like the handle or handle, it's not a knob door handle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My cat opened the door, the one that's not locked up, the one that is locked up is because of being a and locked them up for the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's also sitting here, there's crash in the kitchen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, let's go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: never going to get through this episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, hi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to Forever Excel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tyler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No interrupt tags.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No cats anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Your day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My week was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a long weekend last weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we had Easter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Every Easter, we do like a big Easter egg hunt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Christina does for all the nephews and nieces and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so everybody comes here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were all hanging out for the day and then

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just chilled this weekend and then worked to 40 weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So get better at letting stuff slide.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just not letting it bug me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Been working out exercising stretching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who are you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, is it backwards?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it says fun guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He lifted up his shirt when he when I said, who are you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you just lifted up his shirt.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If I remember not that I was not like, sorry, he says shirt still on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like he's showing me a tattoo on his belly of fun guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's my fish.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's funny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: fun guy yeah, we keep a husky we haven't had an interview and forever, but we always ask people with their path of exalt tattoo would be You just be like nope.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, it was good man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just I did have a like really busy work side of it But going today for some blood work and I think some other heart thing, but my heart has been Perfect.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, for blessings upon us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so glad so good Justin good I've been checking it and

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have those drugs you've been taking to keep it so pristine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have got it nailed down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're your teachin' those cards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Four of these ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pills a day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I were like, well, what do you want to watch?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you want to watch?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we watch sinners and we were disappointed with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We heard all these great things about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the first half was great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The second half was mush.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so we're like, well, what else is there?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a few movies I want to watch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But she's like, no, and there's a few movies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She wants to watch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we keep going to fringe, which is great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we're on the end episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We watch one or two whenever we hang out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the fringes are awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, um...

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[SPEAKER_02]: We keep forgetting about paradise and I did remember to bring it up once and I'm like we should watch paradise season two It's not like we're not going to you know like you know we we weren't overly positive about it And she's like tell her you hated it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like I don't remember that it's kind of like and so immediately I thought a path of ex on that moment because I'm like

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, but torment with the robexile.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe this time, it's fun, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't hate hate the combos they come up with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it was kind of funny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you enjoying paradise?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am, we're, I think we have like three or four episodes left like where maybe halfway through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a, I do like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like the last episode I watched.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that it was shot in a way where you were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Moving between stories sort of but it was super succinct like it was really well done I really liked it cool same director as the other ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you know I didn't actually pay attention But it was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have liked it, but also I'm and I'm not a difficult person of please when it comes to shows like I'll if it consumes my time for a little bit time like yeah enough for me

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, yes, the lawns are looking lovely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Although, yeah, the weather's supposed to take a pretty crappy shift with sex.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because this weather is going to be beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has been so nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's wrong with the weather coming up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just more rain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Blot of rain for quite a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't want it anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't give us this much of sun and then just be like naff flipping away for 11 days from the 11th to 21st sucks It has been is been actually beautiful like really really nice warm like 19 18 19 degrees I like this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, we'll enjoy it for the last day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh wow 91% 84 or 61 87

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it was fun, it comes good for the weeds and stuff, though, the weeds love the sun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So make weeding easier.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I weed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's just snarling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't ever eat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You live inside anyway.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's my day is spent outside?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you go from, like, your car to, like, the road between my offices.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But give me a drive in my car between offices with the sun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I don't care about all the idiots out on the road and there's a lot of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There are a lot of idiots around.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: If we move somewhere else, I'm sure it would get better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably been a real waste anywhere else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I combine the traders with the thing this way, then it's probably fine in that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, people everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was going to say just for anyone listening, just so you know how we define a stupid person.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A stupid person is someone who is not just an or I. Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, well, I mean, it takes it, even though we'll say the bar is really low, who to be stupid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it really low.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very easy to send it just people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the low bar, there's a lot of people that reach that level of bar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a privately coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about it in, uh, after no reports, we have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Patrons why a quarter of our episodes are in eighth of our episodes and now we're gonna be us planning the next private league It's kind of the worst to listen to man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that's you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's got to be the best to listen to so I don't know Well, I don't think we've ever had a full episode or we've talked about the private league, but I Did see comments that or it I felt like it was quite close to when we did the last one, but I feel like we have a plan, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're sticking to a plan one month into, yeah, one month into the path of attack cell one okay because both games so unfortunately for people that only play one game both games only come out or are updated once or three times a year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, granted on the grand scheme of things, that's kind of where Path of Excel one ended up being after a while after they started being a little bit more willy nilly with this four month, three months scheduled they switched to four months.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So whatever, it's not anything new.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But with game, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So now they're basically doing six updates a year though, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Path of Excel one, two months later path two, two months later path one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so just so that I don't know for me myself personally, it's I like just sticking with one game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I am finding, despite the fact that I was really hoping, mentally to only stick to one game, I'm surprised that I find, I'm kind of bored of both games, I guess you could say, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I've mentioned this lots and I'm not, I'm not harping on it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not even a criticism.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, we're, I'm out with a little bit right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Path 2 is a much better experience, core wise, right, just the degenerate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not talking actually playing it, but the interaction of it is awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's now made path one very boring for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If path 2 never got existed, I probably wouldn't have these opinions of path 1, but now there's this comparison that my brain's naturally like, oh, I keep gravitating the path 2, but path 2's in a really boring state, the last update did nothing for me, so now what that's, you know, eight months of waiting for something to fix self up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, it's just, it's in that awkward state.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm finding that I am bouncing between both games, even though I didn't expect to, but I like to stick with one game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, I don't want to be doing the private league while all this path, path one privately, while all this path to news and announcements and all this is coming out at it, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it messes with me, I just don't like it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to go see Jurassic Park while I'm thinking about the Titanic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm terrible on how the cheap but I don't want to go well if I'm excited for one movie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to go see a different movie, but I was never excited for the Titanic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just in gliers it is window every single time the outdoors is the outdoors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that wasn't the outdoors being the outdoors, that was like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I don't know street cleaner driving buyers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think of the vehicle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's not an out-door vehicle thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure mouth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, our private league is coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, when is it coming up?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I opened it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When you were making the league, we were laughing and we always do this enough to dark, but we wanted to bring it up and make fun of GGG in a fun way, but still fix it GGG, hey Tyler, I just want to double check, check a calendar and make sure that you're free in 319 hours and 57 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like when you're making the private league, it tells you when it's going to be, but not in a realistic time, it doesn't confirm with you the date on that page.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's hilarious that there is a page.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that I mean, that through the process you end up knowing, sure you what it is you're confirming is yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you have to like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: pay attention to that day, and then when you go through the confirmation, so being like, hey, are you sure you wanted at this time your local time?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, are you in, it is, your private league is in 319 hours and 57 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hope you're stoked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even think that confirmation screen breaks it down to minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's just hours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, 317 hours from now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, it's a 300 in hold on, I don't come in here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have it in the calendar yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hang on, got up a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the here, the League start shows in six days, 18 hours, 33 minutes and 47 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That I can work with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I understand what that means.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if that said, I don't even know how many hours that would be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, and then no, it's nice to have a date.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But they have the date and time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is, uh, it's all there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just we're making fun of the process of creating league April 17th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: at 417 AM standard Pacific time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Although, I don't know, are we going to be called standard Pacific time soon?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are we going to be called now?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not, we're not PST or PDT.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What are we just PT?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: God, I can only imagine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Really because we start talking about beef and butt head because I said no PT for my bung hole, but it's TP not PT.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we started talking about, I remember that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We did this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's peachy here before.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I've been here before, remind me in five minutes to put the private league in my calendar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, April 17th at 4.17 a.m. it is a Sion only league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you can play whatever you want, but Sions are the only thing that will count towards winning and the sweet sweet loot of discord status and how you will be judged for the next four months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Winning is everything in the

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, come join us, come play 10 day long, hardcore, not solo cell found, mirage, science only.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now there's two choices for the science.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, you've looked at the new science.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Me neither.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be so fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to look, I'm going to, while we start on April 17th at 4 a.m., which I think was just because Tyler likes that it's on the fourth month of the 17 day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, let's start on the fourth hour in the 17th minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, that makes perfect sense

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no reason to make it any different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We used to be very selfish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We would pick times that work only for us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now we are people of the people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is for you, everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Four, seventeen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a time point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, good luck if you're playing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Have fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, we're on the subject.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We watched Homeward Bound last night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't seen that forever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, we're going through all of our childhood movies, so things that were popular better than going through.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's, you know, we saw ET a couple months ago, or whatever it was, I sobbed through the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Homeward Bound, like, you know, me, I'm a pet person.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, the whole, like, all the dog is saying in an old man voices, like, I love you, Peter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, like, solving my eyes out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there was something you said about that that reminded me about homework bound.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if I, if other people listening can't put the segue together, I apologize for the random outbursts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what it was that I said that reminded you of, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, movies are still fun to watch, although you can watch old movies, I think you and I joked about this too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the rating for what it was back then is very difficult to judge now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In this one, the amount of, like, fat shaming there was and homework bound.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like when there's this one like elongate well there's multiple scenes that include a pound and one of the actors is like the characters just overweight guy It's you know cast it that way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but then like all the comments toward the individual from the pets are all about like just how Like that and horrible the person is definitely different back then.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we don't even let the kids watch Peter Pan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's too much to skip and fast forward

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just because of all the days of racism in it, they'd like it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or words that like I didn't I haven't even seen it in forever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't remember if it's racism or if it's just words we don't use it's what I think it's more than more because the words now have a different connotation and I don't know I don't know I'm not trying to like start anything I don't know I haven't seen it forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not like we've watched it it's I mean it I will say our kids now a day like all the way from Ethan's age they are much more

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[SPEAKER_01]: socially aware than we were skids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're they actually, you know, they're much more caring much more whatever than we were we didn't we were not It was a very different world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, Palavexo.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I looked there was a couple you what the chicken there's there's links I did it for you so that you didn't have to I even think I want to get off links and Justin's Justin's link happy

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't care cuz I find them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't found them out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but then now you don't have to do it Well, I already doing it a couple of them, so oh There's much that cheater.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, what are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not gonna watch a movie you've already seen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna watch movie both haven't seen We shouldn't have eaten in there for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be good at box for buying a weather So that's all that's weekend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I'll let by one now

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because you get it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I've done the whole free mystery box thing since my accounts were merged.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I've missed it because I've been a lot more dismissive of that earlier.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, look at this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, look at this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, look at this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, look at this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe I've missed one, but this will be my first one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So just a moment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Remind me in five minutes to buy a wetter.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I've said a reminder to buy a weed-up for 9.54 a.m.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's built it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw, I saw the page now stuff and they, uh, they had a showcase for, um, hideouts as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, did you see though?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you would have seen this yet today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you just duck me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How did you do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just ducked me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That we were just paving up and running away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Punch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A duck?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I have the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you bump it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you bump it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just popped up in front of you that just happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did it quack?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't hear any noises, but I have no idea why that would have happened because I was just all I did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was in a dream.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My leg is up on one of those like, you know, my dad's oak desk that we use.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He has those like little extending platforms that you could use right to make it a little bit longer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So my legs on one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like that's the limit of my flexibility.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I went to go reach for my coffee risking my back just popping out in a million places.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I was so focused and happy that it didn't hurt.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm taking my sip of coffee close to the mic even though I shouldn't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you talked about ducks and I have no idea what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you ducked me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't normally suggest we pause to watch something and then talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think I think we should in this scenario.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I am going to grab something for you and I'm going to send it to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to, if it's for please, the correct person once we've watched this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to make a mark of the timer right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is 30 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you just coughed, I should take that out now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, did I?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even know I did it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, we'll be back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, ready to click.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where do I send you the link?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The score is the word.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not this this and go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Three, two, one, play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, see you tell me when you're ready.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have finished.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we just watched.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a clip that was a $950 bounty and this is gauntlet and you had to sing the Queen song before killing Dojri in the stupid sewer valve thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was the bounty.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I was like, okay, I was a man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: huge showdown because that was was a that was items are that did that really yeah So I was good job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, man way for posting that in discord because that is

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[SPEAKER_01]: really, really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really love the singing post because you have to sing the whole thing so good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, awesome job, where do you go?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the rules I paused it, so I could see it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to start the fight for the entirety of singing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't stop me now by queen before doing a single point of damage to doodry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to try to attempt to sing the whole song as three minutes and 30 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, yeah, you can't use the valve.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, very well done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, good for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw this morning when I managed to put it in discord.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So super fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, good job to play the gauntlet or play in the gauntlet?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it was a. Oh, that was true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone else can stick it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, thank you very much for sharing that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But if you look, if you're curious where there's anybody going to need this court, yes, and also maybe we now know who's going to sing our theme song, nailed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, if we ever into the theme song, it would have to be like a 90s or an 80s sitcom, I think anything needs to sing talking and then just random us doing this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just looking at the camera and going like, oh, you get out of here, 100%.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, thank you for showing that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And great job.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What a fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you play anything this week?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a place.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was actually because of space.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I loaded my purchased copies on PC and on Xbox of Stellaris.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I uninstalled it on PC because I'm like, what am I doing?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to be allowed to be back down to you actually play and then I loaded Stellaris on the Xbox and my son was incredibly stoked to see it and it's tutorial is very much like it doesn't explain why you do something it just says this is what you do next and it's just walls and walls of text and it's all fine like when you take two more seconds to think about it but it's just such a big

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it takes my brain, which after a huge long day, my brain is like, no, it's nap time after that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you said space, you were going to talk about, uh, man, was that game you and I would play every Monday?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our modda, our modda on the Dreamcast?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, sorry, that, no, but it's similar like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We played it on PC together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, yes, they did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll find it before I will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Drogs, operative.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Drogs?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that's what you would have been playing for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you should.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Didn't even think about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I could actually install that upstairs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That'd be a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because Oliver would play that too, like you'd...

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[SPEAKER_01]: That one's definitely the type of game you would like, so that's fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I installed Stellaris, but couldn't make it through the tutorial because I was too brain dead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I actually, and then I actually bought a 10 year old game called Ghost Recon Wildlands.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It actually really interesting to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ghost Recon, though, is that like... Man, first person, what is it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's third person.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you can't have it first person as well, but it's third person and it's just one of those big open world maps that's Cont that constantly repopulates and you just run around with a band of buddies and do that and so No, go on

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so anyway, we've been Chris Wright and I were talking about like when like only a few of us show up and What kind of like cross platform games are other that we can play and you know if we're like not in the if it's a Monday night people don't show up for racing You know what can we book we play so we're looking at a few things that were cross platform and of course a few games came up that weren't cross platform and so Humbdon hard about a few but ghost recon was on sale for 12 bucks so

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's Xbox.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think I will like I played it for 45 minutes just to try it out and it seems good like it seems like it's basically like red dead, but tactical Right, you know what I mean so simple

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, but yeah, honestly, I barely played anything, but do you remember the game that we used to play in person?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was always on the couch and it was the we would always try and clear that one level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was a shooter game and we were it was against terrace.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was some sort of ghost recalence to six Vegas and it was terror stance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that would be really fun with a group of people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we could only play with two, which was so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But can you imagine doing that as a group?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially if you're like marching to each other as you're doing it, it was so fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Chris actually that was his specific request because like he's not looking for something like I was recommending things like Stalara, Sir Age of Wonders 4 or Civ 7 or 6, I think would be better because that one's cross platform.

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[SPEAKER_02]: like I was like hey well you know we could do this and continue but he's like not I know something just for the evening one or two sessions but like just something for an evening and I'm like age of empires and everyone's like no but for some reason something about that whole top down bit people are just I have some people just don't like that style of play

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or it just isn't attractive, like maybe they would love it, but it just doesn't seem appealing because of how it looks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I was trying to show them age of wonders for and like it just looks stupid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like to me, I'm like, oh look at all the cool stuff you can do because I'm used to forex games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But to someone who doesn't play forex games, they're just like, this is just like a stupid cartoon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Too much stuff and no reason to do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know I can see how some people would see that now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Rainbow Six's Vegas, of course, isn't supported any more online.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can only play that locally, but they went into Rainbow Six's siege, and that's a free game, but you can only do four on four unless you get into the MMO part, so you can't really do good private stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: but we did find one that's cross-platform, and it's on sale for Xbox people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's called Insurgency Sandstorm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is just me trying to do research with it, but Insurgency Sandstorm is one where we all work together and we have checkpoints.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not just like clearing the map.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's clearing the map, but time to check on point B.

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[SPEAKER_02]: See you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: don't get it don't get it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well actually you can Chris and I actually I think Ryan's going to get it when he comes back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway it's just a game where it looks it's first person so I don't know how long they'll be able to do it or maybe there's going to be different methods or loadouts that I can use that are a lot less.

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[SPEAKER_02]: invasive for me, but in search and sea sandstorm actually seemed like that kind of game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can we play against like not other people?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the idea of all of my research parameters were cross-platform up to six players co-op.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Can we do a private server and just be against the AI as a team and then you can?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the list did is also like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's free for all Xbox people, but it's

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's different.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Enlisted is World War II, comments designed to be free and continually updated and so that kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know if enlisted costs anything but insurgency sandstorm was on sale for us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the idea of being able to play with just a group of friends against just progressively harder than I.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Terrorist hunts was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We run well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we legit would

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[SPEAKER_02]: go real slow and careful through it so much we would and it was a lot of fun because that was when Ubisoft had really just nailed that like corner peeking bit you know you hold left right here and it's like your characters pushed up against the wall Games just started kind of introducing this in third person stuff too like years of war right right that kind of thing But Ubisoft did it really well and it was intentional.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't just like

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[SPEAKER_02]: You were automatically sucked and hugged to a corner.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You had to choose to do it, but then it did the peeking really well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the amount of had times I got headshot because I was peeking around while doing what's we're coming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it was just really well done Vegas and Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was true.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They were.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They were like well done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you would hear them like, oh, why some of the stuff the terrorists would say, too, it was like, it's not of a bitch.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He would be five bucks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: right after like headshot somebody they're not actually sad is dead they're sad that the five bucks can't right anyway yeah so anyway uh insurgency might work ghost recon would be awesome but uh it's not cross platform i think the sequel is but it's not uh as conducive to what we're looking for so hmm so insurgency guys will have to do some i mean 75% off so i'll buy it just in case

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[SPEAKER_03]: We.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right on that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, that was kind of my week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't really anything puey related.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I honestly, when you said last epoch, I was like, oh yeah, last epoch, like it didn't once crossed my mind.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Why?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to know so bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So much fun playing it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where will what level you like maybe I'll turn on my phone to do a little bit because I'm so tired now to when I actually have energy I'm like I got some rhyme and done like I get my book going right and so this is my evenings like if I'm too tired Maybe I should turn on last deep luck, but maybe that's a really crappy time to learn but I don't know Joe it doesn't even cross my mind That's how I guess I'm having dreams.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know it

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, good to tell me about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was trying to think about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why am I enjoying it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I actually think it's because it's a simpler ARPG.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, and I, and I actually appreciate that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if I have a little bit of time to get on and play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just let me make some easy choices and mess around with things versus like path of Excel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I love the the detailedness of it and the intricacy and all the different things that can work together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It can be daunting to try and adjust your build to try and fix your build to try and make a new build.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Last E-pop man, I just, you can go in there and play and have fun and then you can start looking at what other people are doing online and then you can adjust your build and I love the, you know, we talked about this, I think, and after Dark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: how they have these I might have in the mean episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember, but I was telling you that they have these two factions that you pick at a certain point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One is do you want the merchant guild is what it's called, which is do you want to be able to trade, sell stuff, have essentially an auction house type thing where you can just buy stuff from other people, or

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's called COF and I'm just going to call it circle of friends because I don't actually know what the circle of F stands for, but the circle of friends is just increased drops.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the one thing that's really cool about it as well is not only is it increased drops, but it's better chances for higher tier affixes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to drop as you progress through the circle of friends, you like sort of unlocked different perks, and they start to increase the affix rules that can drop, but then when stuff actually drops, you can see visually on the item, I got this item because I was part of the circle of friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it has a little icon that I would not have dropped.

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[SPEAKER_01]: had I not been part of this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for me, it also gives you the ability to target stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if I go, I really need to upgrade my helmet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get to go to, again, it's not the circle of friends, but I like that sounds fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Circle of friends, you go to their observatory and you can pick these, I don't know what they're called either, but you basically pick prophecies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you can target

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[SPEAKER_01]: unique items, set items, exalted items.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can try and keep rolling to get all these things and then I go back and I go do my maps and some of these prophecies are kicking in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden you have just awesome amounts of loop, but your loop filters so good that you're only seeing the stuff you really wanna see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, for me, it's just the simplicity of just getting into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can go and I can do a map in probably four or five minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe even less sometimes depending.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't do that in Path of Xonimo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's completing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've done what I need to do in that area.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I leave, get my rewards, and I go to the next one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's just simple.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like that, like even now, if I want to, let's say I save ascending for when I'm more awake and attentive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: that ascending still takes a long time while you're leveling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like these are, they're long processes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not short.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You've got like 30 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't, like, you know, you only do that kind of stuff when you're sitting down to play for an evening, not when you're trying to, oh, I have 45 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see what I can do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You fail halfway through and you're like, okay, well, not doing it again, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm wonder, like, for you and I am curious if that's just a shift of our preference or not a shift of our preference,

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[SPEAKER_02]: we prefer that short-style because that's what P.O.E.

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[SPEAKER_02]: used to be for us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't know if it's, maybe it is a valid criticism because any comment towards the game is something that at the end of the day they should consider and it's okay, well, good points.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do we want our game to be like?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Path used to be that great game where you could just sit down in 15 minutes, you've done one, two, three things that you wanted to, not half of the things you wanted to, and then you gotta worry about it, not even counting except for the loot because

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it is, I really appreciate that too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I used to play a lot more because I could squeeze in things, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, as my life has moved on, I find that I have less and less time for the longer sessions and the games that I play, like age of empires.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I can squeeze a game in in 30 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't feel like I can do that with path.

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[SPEAKER_02]: one or two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm curious, you mentioned also the, but that again, that's not a criticism.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just that's where my life is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right now, that's where my preference is are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if that's not where their game direction is intentionally or unintentionally, well, that's just how it fits into life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you also mentioned simplicity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that in a way a criticism to how path of Excel is?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or is that just a nice break from the complexity of path of Excel?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a break.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I know obviously there's a lot of times where people compare the two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One thing I don't like about Assypoc is that you're just thrown into a general chat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can't like, I can't, there's no way for me to go into a chat 2121 and not have to see the global chat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the global chat in Assypoc is not bad, but there's so much POE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Comparison, everybody's like, oh, and then people get so aggressive about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not the same style games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're both ARPGs, but like Path of Exile is so I still think Path of Exile for a person who just loves the idea of Building a build and the intricacies of how things can work and your ability to then take it further.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That Path of Exile is probably One of the best for that, but when I talk about simplicity like so the build for one

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need to know all of the supports that the game has.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need to know all of the skills that the game has.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am choosing to be a prime list and as a prime list, here are the base skills you're going to get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually appreciate that because it's not simple enough where it's dummy, where I'm like, oh, I picked this one skill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the supports are built into the tree for that skill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I like is that I can then determine how I build the tree for that skill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then breed one and go, oh, that's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It actually can trigger something else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I can have that as one of my skills.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now I'm not casting that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just happening automatically because of this support I picked up in the tree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that part's simple.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can get crazy with it, but it's relatively, it's not limitless, like you're bound by the constraints of what this class is and what the skills are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then even the process of going to map, one of the things that drives me crazy still with Path of Excel 2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I don't know if it's totally fair to compare the two, but that I'm just going to say that I am sort of comparing them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that in Path of Excel 2 to run a map takes too long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not saying the actual running of the map.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, starting the map to try and get into a map.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I some process takes too long in in last epoch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, it, it's faster than both of them by a mile in last epoch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I literally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Click the little diamond, click the thing, and I'm in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The map started.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have to grab anything from my inventory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have to keep anything from my stash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I clicked it, and I went.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you could go crazy with how you build out these maps and what you do with them, but or like the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know what they call them, but the things where you actually go into maps, the map versions that they have in their game, but it's easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just click it and I go and, and I'm target farming something that I want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When I click on this map that I'm going to go into, I know that if I complete it, I'm going to get a bunch of affix shirts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to get a bunch of experienced homes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to get a bunch of helmets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I know what I'm getting when I go into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The randomness is what is the map that I'm in and what is my goal when I'm in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, I don't know, for me, it's just simple.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so much easier to just pick up and go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll make myself some reminders and I'll make it my game with the exception of when the PL is on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll make it by game until path to new expansion comes out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious to see what your thoughts are as you progress further into it, because I know when we talked, the campaign is, I'm not a big fan of, but I'm not a big fan of the campaign and any of them, like it's too much go here, do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But once you're through that, I just really enjoy the end game, and then like I said I made a second character and leveling up a second character To do end game in last epoch, took me maybe two hours three hours so much faster than Path of Exile, which again is just another Another fun thing when you want to try something else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's more I I don't have the time I used to have to play games and so

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[SPEAKER_01]: to be able to in a session get a character towards end game and able to play it again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think that that's what keeps me into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what stops me from progressing in Path of Excel 2 with a new build.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to level the second character twice a week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just too much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's way, way, way too long.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like curious because we are getting to that point now, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They've done their PL, they've even had like races for Path 2.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're getting to the point now where we're that month and we're a little late on the month, but we're a month and now we're going to start seeing the Path 2 hype coming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious what they're going to be focusing on because they're treating this game as both the beta and a full fledger release, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like with how they're doing their launches and how they're doing their league.

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[SPEAKER_02]: they have lots to tackle, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have the axe, they have their characters, they have skill balances, but then they also have the other things that you would consider in a beta.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, is this working?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do we like, you know, for my perspective, I would say things like these are things I would bring to the table?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do we like forcing people into these other genres or ascending?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Why not make ascending?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just a checkpoint?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you've reached level,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: 30, level 60, level 70, level 90, whatever, and you automatically get a sentient points instead of needing to accomplish some trial that maybe doesn't suit your bill.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do they want to reconsider the types of combinations that they have in skills, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe make it a little bit more fluid of more possibilities.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have other acts to come out with, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like there's just so much to come out, but then there's also the at the end game, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I brought up a few times as a standard player.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The current end game mapping system just doesn't make sense for standard players.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's huge.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And very screen-hoppy and scrolly for somebody that's playing one character forever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that, imagine what that would be like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that would be a different standard versus league, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that process wouldn't be any more league you restart.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If I'm a league player, it doesn't matter how much I progress in one league in four months I'm restarting, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Whereas, and standard, it's that same Atlas.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and you're just always six.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not recent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, like, but these are big questions, not saying they have to do anything that I want, but I'm like, if, you know, and I mean, how many big questions are that I don't think about or care about, because I'm me with the time that I have?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, they have all these things to consider, as well, are these mechanics we're willing to do, what are we reapplying?

49:16.830 --> 49:25.123
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like there's just, there's a lot, so I'm really curious about this one because I've been, um, I have a lot of wishes for the game, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Path of Exile 2 is my preference, like the gameplay wise, it's just Path of Exile 2 is not anywhere near.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just I don't enjoy the process of doing the things I want to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't enjoy the process of leveling I hate the not not leveling the campaign.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't enjoy the process of trying to map I don't mind the map itself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're too big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think need to be adjusted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the process of doing the map of getting the map up and running I want to do them But I also go like

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to take me a minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to take me too long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe that's just me just being dumb, but I put it in a map and then I go, oh, shit, I need to get tablets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I got to go back to my stash and I got to go grab tablets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like everything in last seepalk where I ran into a spot where I needed to maybe, okay, so craft something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a thing called the woven echo or the weaver or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really cool, it's a whole skill tree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but you can craft onto your items when you find these out in the wild, out in the maps, when you do the maps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a button.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I click on it and it pulls it my stash and then I just pull the thing from my stash into it and I craft it and we're good to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand why they make this thing in Path of Excel 2 where I need to move between these two things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you already are going to make me open the Atlas, then give me some way to pull stuff from my

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do need access to the tablets, I do need access to the maps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I think there's ways to make the mapping process in Path of Excel too so much smoother.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because right now, I just, I can't sit down and just play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At least for me, I just don't feel like I can in Path of Excel too, yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do prefer I actually do prefer if I was playing it over a longer period of time I like the intricacy of Path of Exile better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like how things interact with each other in the way that you're setting up your build But last epoch for me is just when my brain is fried and I'm End of my day man popping on there for 45 minutes and just doing some apps is so much fun And then playing around with the items you're seeing and yeah, and it could because it's new to I have like 5% of the time

51:38.602 --> 51:46.089
[SPEAKER_02]: Another thing though is when you're able to play a game with minimal thinking, you have more opportunity to play it.

51:46.649 --> 51:52.855
[SPEAKER_02]: After a long day, you might not be in the mood to, oh shoot, I still have to do this kind of stuff and plan ahead for path.

51:53.535 --> 51:58.139
[SPEAKER_02]: How many times have in our history, not necessarily recently, but in our history, is like, hey, tell you want to start new characters?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who didn't path one, and I'm like, I can't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you mean new character?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I need like a week to figure this out, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No way, no way, and that's, of course, before gold, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, I don't know if the regrets for this, if I screw this up, I'm not, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's what I've enjoyed the most about it and why I've had so much fun like I got a little bit

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[SPEAKER_01]: board trying to push the one character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was looking at what I could do with another character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I level up another one and I, you know, I just find it, it, um, it lets my time go further.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can go further into the game with my time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I can't with PathVex.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll currently at least.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Peony ones in a fine spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I just, I've played Peony one so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, like, I still like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I can't spend the same amount of time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there are any more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's so many things going on

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[SPEAKER_01]: it just, yeah, it's very convoluted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very convoluted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so last deep talk for me has been a lot of an eye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Seriously, it's such a nerdy dumb thing, but I just love the loop filter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was talking to somebody this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a green breaker, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When a nightham is on the ground, I understand I get it that it's works in last deep talk for certain reasons, and I'm fine with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But items are on the ground, I can hit shift F to bring out my loop filter on the left hand side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just love that my items on the ground now have a in at the end of an in brackets a number.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that number correlates to the rule that is determining why am I seeing that in how it's showing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can just move to my rule and I can adjust it and I go, I didn't really want this to work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why, but I love that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that is one of my favorite things about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you can adjust loot filters on the fly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You move filter blade, but I'm out of the system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not still in the game to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm leaving the game to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And with Last Seapark, the only thing I have to leave the game for is when I'm like, I don't actually know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they probably, I haven't looked at their wiki.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure they have a wiki, but I haven't even looked at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for me it's been a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just love that it's been so easy to just I did a map while I was waiting for you this morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like I was ready so I had a phone call this morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a phone call.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like I'm gonna go do a cup and so I think I did make two apps maybe and it was no problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just quickly whip through him had some fun got some drops and then close a game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no pause though, and I missed that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I rate, I wouldn't have remembered to bring that up, but I noticed immediately that and maybe it gets oiled fast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Expectancy that we have there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's really funny.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I should actually make like schedule a time to just play together for two hours or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder how the, yeah, I wonder how that, like, maybe there's down scale in or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't actually know how it works in last season, but is your build flashy, uh, not the not one of them, one of the mess, yes, but the other one's done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, which, play, whichever one you want, don't, no, I would play the one, well, has an eye in reminders.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I made like eight reminders for my own recording.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Privately calendar by a way to clean both bathrooms.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I got a big sastros harness, check the Amazon packages, talk to Justin about the FE store, and it says do the podcast tonight, but it's tonight's the wrong word.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So do the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it was probably notes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can check that off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can yell at me if it's not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, let's, um, after we finish recording, that's actually scheduled a time to play together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I was trying to find out there was something to have online regarding, uh, how multiplayer works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if it click down skills or what it does, but anyway, it is, I have had a lot of fun playing it, but I, I definitely appreciate the fact that it's just simpler, just easy, and I'm fine with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I want to play something super detailed, I'll go into Path of Exile, but Path of Exile has got to adjust the, for me, at least the leveling process.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And let me get to campaign faster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a more solid mapping.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hear you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can tolerate that though, if Lute's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can tolerate that if I, if Lute isn't a good state, because Lute's still Lute.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I still want to enjoy the process I'm going through.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the length of it is secondary.

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[SPEAKER_02]: To me though, I do prefer a quicker leveling process because I like knowing when my character's finally put together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you get your three or four sockets together and all that kind of stuff in your skills.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like when things start rolling, you get that decent amount of clusters going about halfway through your character.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, okay, I've, like, I got the necessary, like the die-hard ones I need.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, okay, let's do that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But when loot, when you are excited for the next drop, you forget how long the process is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And to me, P.O.E.

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[SPEAKER_02]: still doesn't in both games does not have loot down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm not going to get to the never-sink thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think them relying on never-sink is ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The vanilla experience for loot is trash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll cross every ARPG.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know a single one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you don't, but you don't need, like, the vanilla experience in the last epoch because you have that

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have as many or as little drops as you like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And sure, they still need to be careful on how they do that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Otherwise it ends up being a problem.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But when you're on the verge and one and only some people like all of those too much and other people like all those too little and you kind of have that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Balance of okay, I think we're in a decent balance in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Throwing that loop filter in there live that you can just do it changes everything It changes everything you can have the absurd amounts of loot that both Path of Excel games have if you have an in game loop filter

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you can definitely make the argument counter to that though that is that Path of Excel can do that because of third parties.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that that's a fair argument or a crutch that they should necessarily lean on but they do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know they do and we know that's probably not ever changing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I, yeah, I think Lou and Pewee 2 was fixed quite a bit, but I still prefer playing with a filter, like a never-sing filter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love what they're doing in path to in comparison to path 1, and I love that they're tackling these things that of course are complaints of mine in path 1, so it's exciting for me personally to see them tackling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: mods and the frequency of bass types and they're improved bass types just removing the older bass types.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love all that stuff but I don't know for me for just from a responsibility standpoint like you talk to your kids it's like yeah well sure all of her doesn't have to do the litter box because I can but as a parent I'm like excuse me this is your responsibility you know what I mean cats you're right you know what I mean it's like there's certain things like you talk about

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, um, let's say Oliver's writing a story.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is going to be a really bad example.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I should probably think of one ahead of time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know what you're trying to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just don't like the fact that they're relying on a third party to figure out what they're issues.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do it right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care that the game has 600 skills, so if you're going to do 600 skills, okay, you put that on your plate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do it right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care if you have noodles and noodles of loot or small amounts of loot, but whatever loot system you choose, you chose loot-based game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do it right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's always going to be my argument forever and ever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: your idea, your responsibility.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoy the end-game loot filter, but I also abuse the fact that I can also go online and find one, even in last Deepak.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the third party filters are amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But required, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and I shouldn't have seen the third party in last Deepak.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I go and find someone that I can copy, pull it in, and then I can edit it the way I want.

01:00:02.776 --> 01:00:03.977
[SPEAKER_01]: It is so cool.

01:00:03.997 --> 01:00:05.860
[SPEAKER_01]: But you can do it in game button.

01:00:06.260 --> 01:00:07.161
[SPEAKER_01]: I click one button.

01:00:07.522 --> 01:00:15.511
[SPEAKER_01]: I go into the game hit shift f hit the plus copy from my clipboard And then now I go and edit it and change the way I want things so good so far.

01:00:15.531 --> 01:00:16.792
[SPEAKER_02]: So good make.

01:00:16.812 --> 01:00:19.255
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's got to be really cool So anyway, I'll I'll make a point.

01:00:19.375 --> 01:00:19.916
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll make a point.

01:00:19.976 --> 01:00:20.877
[SPEAKER_02]: It'd be a good talk boy.

01:00:20.957 --> 01:00:27.805
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it'd be good healthy for me to have I think you're seeing all you think is a get further into it especially as you get in towards the monoliths and

01:00:27.785 --> 01:00:31.611
[SPEAKER_01]: progressing the trees and stuff like I uh yeah, I don't know for me.

01:00:31.631 --> 01:00:32.312
[SPEAKER_01]: I've had a lot of fun.

01:00:32.412 --> 01:00:33.814
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not cool.

01:00:34.055 --> 01:00:39.383
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't I can see myself burning out of it faster than path of Exile just because simplicity.

01:00:39.924 --> 01:00:40.485
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's simple.

01:00:40.525 --> 01:00:42.989
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's that you do kind of hit that point, but I don't care.

01:00:43.229 --> 01:00:43.850
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm fine with that.

01:00:43.910 --> 01:00:47.175
[SPEAKER_01]: Like let my brain just shut off a little bit and blast some apps.

01:00:47.776 --> 01:00:49.118
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm looking for.

01:00:49.216 --> 01:00:50.618
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, that was a good week.

01:00:50.638 --> 01:00:51.178
[SPEAKER_01]: I had fun playing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Good, good man.

01:00:52.740 --> 01:00:53.321
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad.

01:00:53.341 --> 01:00:54.242
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll make a point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's let's actually make a point to schedule something together, even though we're both busy these weeks.

01:00:58.527 --> 01:00:59.588
[SPEAKER_00]: So we did last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: April 17th at 417 a.m.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Private.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's exactly a week away, isn't it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, we have we have to have one last epoch session before then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sweet, alright, well, if you're looking for information about the, uh, private league, it is on discord, you can pop in there and find the info and join up and if there are not enough slots, don't worry, we will always add more slots, so feel free to just join in there and we'll add just as soon as we do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, wrap this up, 340 forever, Excel them, just Naked Eggs, and I'm Tyler Rick River of Days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Patrons will catch you and after dark everybody else, we'll see you next week, 341, which will also be the start of the private league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pippip!

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