Supporting Ulfred, The Exiled

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to forever XL them just naked tags I'm Tyler record of days episode half Oh, oh my goodness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I know it's hard there and so it threw me off and I was like he's doing this on purpose to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not doing it on purpose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's me not being normally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're always there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like oh, what do we ask?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You remember that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it, is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it Ikea?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I swear it's Ikea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's that lady who's kidding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, that's that commercial where I'm explaining it for everybody now because of course we can't just not explain it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, I think it's Ikea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember it totally different than the way that it actually is, but it's, it's perfect both the real way and in my head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's this lady and Ikea is like, let's say again, we're pretending it's Ikea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it is who cares.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like he is bragging about their prices and so this lady as she's checking out she thinks like she's getting such a good deal that she's like actually stealing from the store she's like all those these this has to be all all these prices are mistakes I got to get out of here so I can keep this deal before the catch me and so it's just a still shot of her and she's running sideways past the camera but pretty far decent away and

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's just her with the camera with a bunch of bags of his bags all these bags and they're she's like hanging the mode it's almost like a teapot but she's running because she has all these bags and just like start the car because she just wants to get out of there so fast with all those good deals that she thinks she's stealing and What episode are we on?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, that's what we're doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I can check

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm checking too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Last episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're three or three and so we're three or four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is welcome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to three or four, everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Together again again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I sing that all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know where that's from?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but I can hear the tune.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what it's from?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I do, but I don't remember the exact movie title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, did you find it or what are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so it is, it's, it's the Muppets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but it was the Muppets remake that is now like a, you know, fifteen years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, uh, two thousand eleven the Muppets and that was the one that Jason Seagull really did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so they're taught they're singing about how they're together again because they're hadn't been a Muppet showing forever and so together again again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah, has been a little bit since Ty and I have been together again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We, uh, both had our little breaks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh, first big shout out to our patrons, thanks everybody who re-subbed up this week and to rope, Rob.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're the best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for signing up this week and join our patron.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, patron gets the axe after the arcs are paid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's our, what is it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's our podcast after the podcast where we just keep going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just keep riding the wave and talking and

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[SPEAKER_00]: you get to listen to it so thank you for supporting the podcast and if you love podcasts and and we love talking I mean it's like a marriage meant to be it's like the perfectly shaped two piece puzzle you guys and us anyway

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a, you also, you know, under a discord, you should be under discord, but we had our car giveaway, which I actually forgot about until this morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the winner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We hope you feel special.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I forgot we had a running and then I saw a post on the announcements and I was like, oh, that all won.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Congratulations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The loan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You hacked the system somehow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But congratulations, so that's a double check with you with your deets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because that's what people say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They say deets and delish and totes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love how good the odds were for people to win the car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause then in thirty three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thirty three was surprising for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, people gave up on the car giveaway from episode two or three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Rep, it did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jits all the way through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe my congratulations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How a way hold on to my last ask about your weekly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let me look at the order of things, not that I read off of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How was your week time?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for asking Justin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a good week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know how I don't own any path of Excel merch myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every piece of path of Excel gear I own has come from you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well you own it though and it is well now I do but it's literally half my wardrobe now because of they were quite a few all the two dollar support packs you previously purchased in your life hey um okay so tell me it's you back

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got, you got shirts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, remember for a while, my only merch was the not the only merch because they're extremely generous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Justin went to the first XL con.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He brought me back a hoodie, which was like a million dollars and a hat, which was two million dollars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm walking around with this three million dollar get up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: no no it's true but then even after the podcast started we were like a hundred two hundred episodes in like nobody no matter where I go like we're in the Vancouver area and but you know we go into the inland and we go on our vacations we go to Vancouver Island and it's not like I mean

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[SPEAKER_00]: The greater Vancouver area isn't Mexico City, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have go bajillions of people here, but you know, it's still city.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a big, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of Dennis.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm walking around, nobody, not like never in my life as there's somebody where's like, hey, I like everybody, I like to play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, oh, cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, oh, hey, is that an exalted orb?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you a conversation that Tyler has just dreamed of having?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, and then finally once at an A&W way back in the day, there was somebody who was like, dude, I'm like, you're hoodie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I turned to them like, they're Jesus, and I'm like, what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, where's it from?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, oh, hang it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then like ages after that,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm walking in Home Depot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the employees is like, hey, perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll write on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, hey, and I panic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I say something really stupid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, they were walking away because they were like, look, I'm going to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it was something like, so, so, so you play, but like, obviously they do because they recognize it and they're walking away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, I panicked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Justin, I was at the local bookstore this past week, looking at local bookstore things in the local bookstore and the clerk was like, oh cool, Path of Exile, you play hey, and I was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a hot phone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it was an awkward conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was really like the whole time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, don't tell them you have a podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't tell them you have a podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it wouldn't be from a bragging thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like that's like right away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My brain is on like, okay, don't let anybody know where you live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't like, you know, like just like all the like online stuff you need to be careful of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But now it's in person sort of like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: okay don't because nobody recognize me so I'm not I'm not used to it and so it's like you know now it's like okay don't tell anybody have a podcast don't tell anybody have a podcast don't tell and it was the most awkward conversation because that's the only thought in my head they said something about having like oh yeah they played and they played some sort of peacock build and I'm like oh cool that means

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even say like oh what what what skills that are like what unique is that or anything like that was just like oh a peacock build and I was like I mean I panicked and I was like oh cool I did say that and so that's good you had your moment

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I met so anyway, I have to go to the book store today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully they're there and I can I can redeem myself as a normal and fellow nerd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to redeem myself and ask a little bit more and be a little bit less awkward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had to come to your thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But how was your kind of music?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, did I have we have, I haven't talked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Come back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so we went to Manning Park and I mean Manning's huge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a it's a provincial park.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's like very pretty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Twenty different like big campgrounds throughout the whole mass of forest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we went to one of the many but it was nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was right next to Silica mean I think is the name River.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we were no joke.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ten feet from the river.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's tough when you're talking about an intervention website to book a campsite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, okay, you see the rivers close, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have the possibly deceptive picture unintentionally deceptive picture of what the campsite looks like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, oh, wow, I really hope it is close.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was actually that close.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, but it was really cool because I got to, so it sounds weird considering how we were brought up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this might sound weird to people based on where you live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But from where we are, just the life that we have being city folk, just a nire, both when we were younger, campers, but now we're in our forties and

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know, doing anything besides sitting in a computer shut up and get out of here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was nice because like you remember when we used to go up to Cascade Falls.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We wouldn't go up the path.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We would go up the middle of the river.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We climb on the big rocks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'd go through the water and we were having a great time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we were strong enough to deal with the pros and cons of a river, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And waterfalls.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas my kids were also dove.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, one hundred percent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But just we didn't die.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't die.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if... So I had the perfect opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was a really slow creek or river.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was maybe torn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: thirty feet across forty feet across maybe but it was surprisingly really deep is so it would go up up a not really but it would go up to maybe my armpits right in the middle and it was surprisingly a really strong current right in the middle and so I got to teach my kids just

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[SPEAKER_00]: the dangers and the respect of moving water like that, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like where we're around lakes all the time, we're close to the coast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've been in the ocean, all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But rivers are a unique beast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, there's surprisingly dangerous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I had really good opportunities to like, OK, so let's cross there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go to that big rock there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you want to do it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This looks shallow, but then we start going through and it's actually really scary and slippery and deep and fast, completely unpredictable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we just

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just really, it was like the perfect opportunity for them to have tons of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They spent their whole three days right beside the river in the river, throwing rocks at it, whatever, but also they have the utmost respect for it now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they're going to come to like some of the smallest creeks and a good big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was that it was really, really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We went with my in-laws this time and we all got along, which was nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually never really a fear, but you know, anytime you go anywhere with anyone, you just, it's nice when you come back and everybody got along.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, definitely different than when you're going to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just have five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The first thing she told me was about the river, so she definitely loved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She definitely did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the kids brought their comic books and

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[SPEAKER_00]: like they're making their own comic books and they just fly with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They put so much effort into them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just buy the blank ones off of Amazon and they just it's like Aaron and I will buy them a hundred percent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like as soon as they're out, we'll buy them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is it, and is it, uh, illustrated and they're adding the words or is it wholly blank and they're drawing and doing the words?

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[SPEAKER_00]: All it has is different variations of the boxes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're only like five, six bucks when you buy them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They can definitely have their preferences.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'll be going through it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have certain that like dad let me check the cover because some of them have like the box styles that they like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They feel like it's wasted space.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But no joke that each have like ten huge thick comics completely done perfectly colored all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some other stories they're still continuing from when they were four years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is it is a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they brought that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Oliver forgot his pencil.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's not like, you know, when we go to another campground and it's like an hour away or thirty minutes away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This one, two and a half hours away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we're

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Oliver's like, I forgot my pencil and that was like, what he wanted to do with his spare time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we, our, our campsite was maybe five minutes from the lodge that's at the center of Manning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we went and their grocery store didn't sell pencils.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're a little gift shop also didn't sell pencils.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, a restaurant that's attached to both.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They only had pens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't have any pencils and Oliver's like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's really like fading, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, oh, man, I was like, just, you know, that, that thing you get as a parent where it's like, it's an innocent mistake.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's tough to teach the lesson with that one when that was when the heart was really set on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not like, I wanted a popsicle on their heart, was set on a popsicle, nothing like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, but then we actually went to the lodge in that front desk agent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She spent like ten minutes looking for a pencil, found it, and then spent another ten minutes finding a sharpener, a pencil sharpener,

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[SPEAKER_00]: made all of his life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a really good time and we were surrounded by good people and kind people and even our neighbors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, thanks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How was your week?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How was my week?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We recorded very early because Ty was leaving and then I left right after him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So ours was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We went to the island.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We love going to the island.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Went to visit our oldest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He lives over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the kids love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We like going to Victoria and surrounding areas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we spent it was a shorter one just because I've, I don't really have the time to take off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I didn't want to go for as long as we probably normally would have, but it was really fun man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to spend a lot of time with the youth and the kids and Logan loved it because he got to stay the first night at his brother's place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't stay with us at the hotel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he hung out all night with Ethan and Matthew and they just did their thing and went out, which of course, he thought was the best thing ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it was good, beautiful weather.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a, it was a very fun trip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's really nice going to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of weird because we have such an odd dynamic with our kids, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're range from eight to twenty three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's fun watching the the oldest doing his thing and being happy and stuff like it's a it's a really cool feeling as a dad just to see your kid like really

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[SPEAKER_01]: doing well in their work and in their life and in their personal stuff like just I don't know it's a really it's a really cool thing to watch and we hung out a lot with him and we went out and did a bunch of stuff we went to Hathley Castle again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been to so many times it's a castle and

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Victoria area, but they film like descendants, the Disney movies, they filmed X-Men, they filmed Deadpool, like different things there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My girl's love is that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that Xavier's place?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that the X-Mansion?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they use it for the mansion mansion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not really sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really know all of the different like scenes or what parts in it, but we've gone there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably every year for the last three years just because it is actually really nice and you just pay for parking because it's part of the royal roads university now it's owned by the government.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't have to pay to like go walk the grounds and go to whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if we go there and there's this part where you enter the gardens and if you have to use the washroom, there's this little like

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[SPEAKER_01]: it's like it was like you were walking into the dungeon of the castle like there was a gate at the bottom of the castle and you could walk in it was all just a dark seller and there were two bathrooms in there okay so of course the kids have to go to wash them as they're walking down towards there and my girls are like this there's a gift shop I'm like what would you tell them what they don't give shop here

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[SPEAKER_01]: They look over and they start walking towards what used to be the dark seller and it's all like nicely painted and they've got signs out front for a gift shop and like what then we start to walk towards it because they did have to use the washroom and you walk in there and by the time I got there because Christina and the kids were all up ahead of me by the time I got there my girls were losing their minds because you could get a tour

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's no other way to go into the castle when you go there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now these people very smart, but also assholes have figured out that they can offer guided tours of the inside of the castle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I, there was like no way I was not going to be able to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My girls were lutes in their minds at the idea of being able to finally see the inside of this castle that they've seen for so many years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we did tour inside, inside Hathley Castle, which was very cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's uh, I always like old stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So seeing the inside was pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My girls love the fact that they were in the room that the descendants bedroom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know the girls bedroom or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it was, but they thought it was amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we just hung out did a lot of eating hung out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought we were talking about racing on Monday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so people were trying to figure out who's racing on Monday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, well, I'm on the island.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, thirty seconds later, I get a text from Josh saying, my island question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yeah, I'm over here visiting Ethan, and he's like, you asked, you didn't even tell me, and I'm like, honestly, I forgot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he got, he's like, wow, I'm like, well, Steven, I was like, I'm here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was here to visit Ethan, I was in plan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we did meet up with Josh and Tracy and hung out with him for a little bit, and then

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we went checked out some new stuff that we normally haven't checked out on the island, which was fun, but it was a relatively shorter trip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The ferry ride over was the worst ferry ride.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I told you this was the worst ferry ride I've ever been on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: ferry ride, we've been on the ferry so many times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was the first time where people were getting sick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They called for doctor or nurses or paramedics over the over like calm of the whole boat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Intercom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was an ambulance waiting by the time we finally landed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My daughter was like getting sick, like feeling sick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was trying to help her through it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even I was feeling nauseous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At one point I walked to a washroom and as the boat hit this spot, you saw people fall into the wall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a hard bank to the left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was nuts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then of course, we come home and there's a tsunami warning because of a. If you can raise a racing away from the tsunami warning end and the the Georgia inlet there was actually part of the the warning like in between the island and the mainland was yes, it's also going to be you just have to like get like

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[SPEAKER_01]: fifteen minutes north of where you get out of Schwartz Bay to clear the warning area and we were booked for the eight o'clock ferry and it's crazy because I'd been we'd been out for lunch that day with Josh with Ethan and everybody and we were talking about the ferry and he was like that's crazy that the water was that bad

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were catching the APM back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you watched party animals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, normally I am like, eleven guys were checking out the hotel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going straight to the thing, but I was like, it's a short trip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They all wanted to still visit and do stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I kind of felt bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, all right, fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to stay longer, which was not it was cool to see people, but my back got completely after on this trip again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: not as bad as obviously the last time I was on the island but yeah so we're out for lunch and we're talking about this trip out and Josh is like looking on some app I don't know what he has some special military something I'm sure but it was like showing him the wind levels he's like oh yeah it looks all good today I text him when we're at the very turn on like yeah thanks man told me it's all fine he's like yeah I just saw the tsunami working

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're trying not to say anything in the car to make sure that our, you know, especially kids don't get stressed out about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we waited until we were well past the point by me and ended up, thankfully it was fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was, it was, it was a good trip, came back, worked, but my back was, after I can't tell if it's from all the driving, because we did a lot of driving.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's also never any time for me to chill for my back like to just relax.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I keep it when we're in the pool, I'm, you know, hanging with the kids and trying to,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Swim and do handstands and, you know, show them that I'm still capable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did not go well when I came home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I spent two days ago, Wednesday, I spent drugged trying to work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yesterday was a bit better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully today will be the best, and I'm trying to push my appointment through faster for my epidural.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you're back's tired of just all the way, huh?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So am I, man?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really looking forward to when you have your appointments, but as nothing to do with the blast, like, I don't believe it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It sucks, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it sucks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The week was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Life is good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Things are good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, here we are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Together again, again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I might even be that mop it's one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be the mop it's movie after that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we're going to say it's that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How's your fan?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a dance tie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this week, my tech support guy because I got a guy for tech support.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to do and his name's Jay Dodd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: T eggs, and he came and installed a new fan for my CPU as the cool kids say, and it is it's fanning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's not loud.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one broken fan lights that do not exist or not flashing in my console.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In my own console.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all nice, sexy and sleek.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We put in that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not too wide to bench.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fifteen, I think, into his computer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, along with a promo max a couple extra freebies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tech guy and if I am looking at my MSI currently, CPU Core Temp.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Forty-four CPU socket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thirty-three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: SLCS.

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[SPEAKER_00]: SLCS because that's the only one that really matters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I remember us talking and I was laughing while we were doing it that when I told you that my Temps are usually in the forties, you were like, what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So thank you very much for taking time out of your constantly busy schedule to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just a never ask for anything in return.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You kind of guy that actually gets angry and annoyed you just and does not get angry unless you ask to pay him back about something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know actually thanks actually works just as edifying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: for the person saying it to, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you can't do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But say one time, you can't say thanks in two times in a single message, because then you're getting the middle finger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you sent it two times in the same message.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why you got the middle finger, buddy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's multiple times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As soon as I thank once, I am done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That feeling of thankful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, my friend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the middle finger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's two sentences.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you's in the same message.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, then I'll send them in separate messages next time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I can't get the middle finger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You will get the middle finger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was happy to do it, but it was funny because I was on the computer working or something and I saw a discord that Aaron was streaming something like, oh, nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully the temperatures are staying cooler and I opened up her stream and I was like, what the F is she playing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was some cooking game with people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she was doing a co stream with some of her buddies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, I just laughed at myself on my cloud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We called the computer down for a few games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're too dimensional top down almost text-based game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Way to take advantage here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, well, what was it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just, you did like a massive PC upgrade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're talking like two years ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you did a massive PC upgrade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it didn't matter because the next game you're like and you I remember you saying like people were messaging you on steam like oh wow so you did this huge upgrade but you were playing path of exile which is just the GPU hog great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not easy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the CPU you were you're not using your video card at all and you were so excited about your new video cover then the next thing you turn on because it was a new league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: was a game that barely uses really right in advantage of it at all and exactly right so anyway all good things all good things anyway Justin has auto deposit on though so when I sent him my name is also auto return have auto return turned on with it that be hilarious oh then just around the river bend so whatever I'm p.e.

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[SPEAKER_01]: this week

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not an positive way to start this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to open every single one of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be it's a positive episode, but see because of the our competition it's possible event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just a fan of those are cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really wish that there was a way to know nowadays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If something's real, like these actually look really good because they look very artsy, but I still feel like, yeah, any stop people from doing AI stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's the second boss kill event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you see that somebody from our community won?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the same person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Hardham Zor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hardham Zor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Top three placings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Congrats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Big time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's the different, Hardham Zor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If it's not, if it's a different, Hardham Zor and you're not from the Forever XL community, we don't care.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nope.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I take care of you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just good of a job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a good of a job if you're not from our community.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it's pretty easy for us to check because I'm pretty certain they went a lot of early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But congratulations, that's pretty cool and exciting and great job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for pointing that out in our community as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's nice for other people to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't remember who posted that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So big shout out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate it as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, what else we got?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Secrets of the out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, more, more fanor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good Lord.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just going crazy with the fanor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like those.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like all of those arts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are good arts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Little Tyler Scrolling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at the rest of the character portal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they got a weekend sale.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it's not over when he's doing this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thank you Mr. Joe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now your fellow community members.

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[SPEAKER_01]: mystery box for Don of the hunt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does Don of the hunt new is this dude?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don of the hunt is the most recent big patch for the baby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when the hunters came home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I went into login.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I logged into Path of Excel too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was going to buy myself the the waiter or the falling lead or something cheap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm looking through the store and I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, they've like four pets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you still buy like one report?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but they're all like ten bucks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not spending ten bucks for a free mystery box.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm gonna go in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, they don't have a way to what I'm saying is like they only have like ten dollar up things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's it's kind of odd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to put that out when you don't really have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you can't buy something in purely one and still get this while you can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I'm going to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just odd to make it about dawn of the hunt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it can make sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I guess they don't have a three twenty six mystery box.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's why.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, so I was like, I logged in and I'm like, oh, I'm not going to buy anything from the path to store.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not spending the whole idea of that is to kind of like, it's like having that cheap little door teaser when you get into a store or something like that, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Something to tease you in, take a look at our other stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you get a nice reward and it kind of encourages you to spend more or, you know, even if it just works as a thanks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the path to store doesn't have anything cheap enough to be motivated to spend to get a chance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You would already have to want to spend something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there are coupling it with a stash tab sale.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which I love.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that is really cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I actually don't remember the last time they coupled a mystery box with a stash tab sale.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think it actually happens every single time and I haven't been paying attention.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I really like that combo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a very thoughtful combo, but also a very sneaky and smart combo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, get a free MTX.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you get something that you feel like you quote unquote need, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not getting into the is path of Excel free to play a bit with that conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just now because it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't get we started it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, like I really like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's both really smart and really generous at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really good combination of both.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So whoever did that, nice work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we saw the e-patched last time we talked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the F-patched was new.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I went back two weeks just in case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but that's all path one stuff and console and PC are on the same page.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all the past two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Had a couple interviews now, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had both Evan and... Oh, that's his name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Big gorgeous hair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Zackie in this our developer Evan talks to Zackie a game designer cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so it's Emma and Zackie cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but they're in that interview space where you normally see Ziggy Jonathan and Mark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they have like that designated area, but I love that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like give us the faces like it's nice to see Evan, which oh

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[SPEAKER_00]: People, whether they know what are not a very noisy voice, because it's his sultry voice, you hear it, and where?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who knew my voice would be so low?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where's that from?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You should know that, dad of kids that like princesses and Disney movies?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Isn't every Disney movie?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who knew my voice would be so low?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He actually, he's one of my like, I don't have idols, but he's like one of those guys that I really look up to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not Jim Cummings, because that's Darkwing Duck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's the other guy, Alan Tuddick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Alan Tuddick is the voice that's related.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's the goat in Wish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I've seen that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a new one?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not new.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wish.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not new.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you watch the one with Zackie?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I haven't seen any of the interviews.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's all about our balance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It does interest me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I will watch it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the one thing that I wanted to praise GGG on was just getting those faces out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like really personable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it makes it really, it's always a wonderful reminder that it's just people working hard on a game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that in podcast that we've done for five and a half years where we fought against the idea of doing video.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, I just love to see faces.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're different because we're a podcast, but they're doing an interview.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's nice to see the faces behind because people are always like Jonathan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People are always like Mark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Back when Rory was there, he was a familiar face for a little bit, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously Chris was before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you get these faces that people are always like, and then, but the community constantly references them as well, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Once that face is out there, once that name is out there, that's what the community does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then that's sometimes where these like personal intentional or unintentional attacks happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what work needs to do this or Jonathan needs to get his head or whatever it is, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you start adding more of the faces of this three hundred plus employee company, it just, it normalizes the circumstance a lot to people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, even myself, when I get frustrated with the game, when I see the faces behind all the work, it just, it makes it a lot easier for someone to not shake it so seriously, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, like now, despite the fact that I've had my criticisms in the past, which are irrelevant to this conversation, I don't consider myself hotheaded, maybe there would be many that would disagree with me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's definitely just in general when you think about gaining or any community in general online community, there's always those hotheads, the people that are very quick to react in judge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it just, you know, it impacts them too, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so anyway, I like, I think it's really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They also had a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was awesome to see Camille on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forget, and I'm sorry for the interview.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're a very popular famous guy in the...

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[SPEAKER_00]: in the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's not even always doing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, the second one was, um, not the GGM play that the gorgeous breaks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't see the link for that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they didn't post it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, or I missed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just impossible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just an interview with Camille.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't interview with Camille.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a gorgeous lock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they didn't post it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They poor Camille, come meal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You, you, you, HR, you, you, HR this business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I have to go to X. Well, it always seems that they're odd about what they do and do not post.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can't say that's overly surprising, but who is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lacking consistency.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to find it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, no, I don't know who that is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, okay, path of Excel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love X mystery box.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, boss versus boss.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Camille!

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[SPEAKER_00]: Camille!

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's Evan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Zackie?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking forward to seeing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The very intro to that really actually made me small already quite a lot, so hey, where is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Guys?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Camille posted it, so let's go to Camille's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Darth Micro.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Darth Meal Incro.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to be on your website, GGG.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you watch that one?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm walking around with pro Camille signs around their parking lot now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you watch that one?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Camille Jr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Come visit Camille Jr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and you need to be shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out out just as much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't need you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you watch that one?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I haven't seen any of them, but I'm going to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been busy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been busy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been at the pool, like non-stop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My son's been swimming lanes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, legit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Swimming lanes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have a timer out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number time in his backstroke.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're time in his frontstroke.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Time in his backwards butterfly, forwards butterfly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are probably the real names of these techniques.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I've been doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm timing, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have time for this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I haven't been going to my kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am still looking forward to both of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I assume you haven't seen them because- No, I don't watch them though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like when they do these, I do also, like, when they, you know, when they're on video, it's cool to be able to see them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's awesome.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do like those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess that that counters what I said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, nothing came out that speak to that care about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do care about those two things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just remember not about them when you asked about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was more boss boss events stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's something that they're doing at Pax West.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the past Pax West one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You won't go that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great kind of done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's on August, twenty nine to September first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's when we went last time too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like at the end of the the end of the month of the end of the summer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they also have boss versus boss, but they have a tournament going on an internal tournament with all the rogue exiles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just have like, uh, oh, cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sweet fun tree going on in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they have like, you know, best of three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have at the top of the tree there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What, uh, what the small little tournament is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, on versus one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Best of three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They should have turned that that little tree into something where people could like interact with where you could like select your tree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pick your tree for who you think your winner is going to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm on in the path of Excel too website.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't I wish that this was something that where you could click it because I'd be fun to actually like go through and pick who you think's going to see you know or click on the room exciles to learn what they actually do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't get crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't get crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This side based on name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, that's uh, that's the week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A fun week for the super fans that like the little things like, you know, the small little posts, but nothing gameplay wise, no announcements for the things that they're working on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking forward to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully they're

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's not, that wouldn't be the right way to say it, because that sounds condescending, but it's not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking forward to hearing what they're working on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, for what's coming out for the August patch, which from if they're on time or early, they were saying late August would be when this next path of Excel to patch to come out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking forward to hearing what's on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That just maybe some of their focuses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure that it's going to be an extremely global patch because it's now been quite a while and there's lots of stuff that they're still trying to work on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that even from interviews that Jonathan had shortly after launch in December and getting into January and February and all those interviews they were doing, there's still some stuff that they were referencing that they weren't happy with that still haven't been touched on yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I'm sure there's just so much stuff for them to do, but also to add

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've said some things like these things are or aren't going to be coming out for this coming patch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they've changed their mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, as just somebody who's only playing Path of Excel too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have ants in my pants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting, like the half nervous half excited that this patch is going to be for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to be for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really hoping it touches on some stuff that are going to make it even more exciting to play because that is still the game that I'm playing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still turn it on sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just looking forward to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just need that news.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just reading through the Roguelke cell names trying to decide who I would pick based on name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was still on excels.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for listening Justin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was listening to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got ants in my pants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ants in your pants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a fast special feeling, Lloyd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know who you would pick to win based on name?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's kind of fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, now I got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Vaza of the Death Acara.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was my kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is going places for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not as spary of the arcane tempest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Adrian, the malignant rose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you have to go with somebody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't go with someone like my name is the artillarist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he's boring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's like my name's Tyler the desk sitter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you need to go somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a little bit too simple.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the curse weaver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you go with someone like the afflicted Which one's the afflicted all friends?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No offense if your name is all Fred It's just not striking the it's like my name is instead of saying Thanos Alfred sounds like I should be a Viking or something it's like at the end it's like you know

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[SPEAKER_00]: Got some who call me Tim.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bob.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you asked for the Holy Grail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if I ignore all the first names, which are all just as amazing, is that Rack?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, that's Rayoke.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the blood thirsty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The man hunter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, man hunters got to be female.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because Bronak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's and Bronak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's probably sexist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why she's a man hunter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But probably deservedly so I haven't met any guys that I'd want to date.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some really hot ones, including my dentist, but wouldn't date them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you taking two to stick to?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll just see what happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the malignant rows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the flaming hand, the ruthless wave.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not a big fan of support skills, though, either one of them called ruthless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My two are Vaza of the Death Arcara, because that's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Best name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't even have a comma in your name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing after Vasa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing after Vasa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing after Vasa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing after Vasa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing after Vasa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing after Vasa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing after Vasa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing after Vasa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing after Vasa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing after Vasa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing after Vasa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing after Vasa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing after Vasa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing after Vasa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's he's just got a regular name and he's afflicted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's like door in the deft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Deft just makes me laugh that there's a I don't remember that I'm sure I fought that rogue, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, isn't Nisa, um, like, I'm not a magic of the gathering fan, but I do only have the board game, but isn't Nisa the the flaming sorceress girl, like she has all the fire powers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nayaasa, Nisa, I don't know how you say it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know Matt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you throw in if that's true, then you just throw in an A and no one will know where it came from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hang on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Magic, that is the best episode ever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gathering Nisa?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that thing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like NYSSA?

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[SPEAKER_00]: NYSSA Magic, the Gathering Board Game, Nisa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Naya also is a new Australian singer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's a she's a plain walker, but she's she's the green kind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You switch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You switch to value added a vowel and you change the color approved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's creative enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Niasa, the flaming hand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Niasa is an Australian singer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: FYI, I googled it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are they allowed to be friends?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're commonwealth buddies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't know what New Zealand and Australia's relationship is with each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like they're... I feel like if we... That's, you know, they would be offended.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like little island versus big island, and we mix it up, thinking it's all the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I don't think you can mix it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, shi Yanik.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Although shi Yanik's looked the same, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You say that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you're allowed to say that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, who's your two?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pick it too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going with Vassa because I'm going to pretend there's no comma.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Vassa of the death arcara and Adrian the malignant rose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I love curses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you got to go flick the tie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the malignant rose, you know, you know, I'm putting these in here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, as our vote.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, the two that I want to go for a fighting each other right off the bat, which Alfred, you afflicted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he got afflicted with the name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's the curse weaver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now I can't pick the curse weaver because because of Alfred.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you writing this down?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How are you gonna remember?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't even save your notes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't have to wait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh wait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you ever upgraded to Windows?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you couldn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, who's it to?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going on with the Adrienne, the Malignant Rose and Vasa of the Death Acara.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you pastries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You stole the pros.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Alfred.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Alfred.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You flicked it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I'm going for the sexist man hunter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: sexist man broom you know it just keep one all you need is one guy and you can keep the world going it's true well well maybe backups in case there's blanks but they can stay in the cages until your shirts blanks and then you just swap them out but you really only need one working one

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: With that, be worth being locked in a cage, like being the only one left.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they all just needed you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's purely just a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm just staying with you for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm just staying with you for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm just staying with you for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm just staying with you for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just thinking what we made.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alfred went no longer reflected Alfred.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We made our choices, and what's gonna be funny is I noticed that they already have part one, so they've already actually done the first round.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna watch it later and see if we're already out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See if our choices are already out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought something was wrong, like they were really excited about this video, but I forgot I was still at three hundred percent zoom in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just getting out of the page, but I accidentally scrolled down and all of a sudden this boss video was like, you bastard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's exciting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, back to your thing about Path of Exile II and updates.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious to see what comes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know no matter what comes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, I don't be fun to see whatever they come out with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it'll be interesting to see what direction they go with this whole.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're coming out on a specific date and content is not the, you know, it's just whatever content is there at the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That'll be interesting to see what they roll up with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm really excited for this patch even though like so for everyone listening and this is also for myself future Tyler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm still on like episode a hundred and ninety three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a lot of it to get summers the worst but it's the best like I love that it's just when I'm around people I'm not the kind of person where I'm like I'm going places with my headphones on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to be alone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I find it

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's no criticism to anyone else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just in my life with the chores I do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like listening to things while my kids are around or my wife is around like I just like being available.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess you could say I don't want every time somebody comes to talk to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to like hold up my finger and then pause it because I want people to feel like they're interrupting me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So in other words, the only time I listen to the podcast is when I drive somewhere, which is almost never.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And or when I'm moving the lawn, but I get the kids to do that when they're home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm quite a waste behind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But future Tyler, when you listen to this, nope, that's gone now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what I was going to tell myself what were we talking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're talking about the updates coming out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We can't, and not like, I should never judge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, like the whole like four month schedule thing isn't really valid to say it's working or not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it, not like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to stick with it, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it doesn't matter in our opinion if we think that it's working or not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, I hear my Canadian accent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't say hour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I say are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For both words, both for A-R-E and for O-U-R, I say, R, and it's, I just discovered it and it's driving me nuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said they didn't think, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think, ours, I think, as I say, R. I don't say, R, for my car and my garage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, yeah, I guess, I guess my Ontario-ness is coming out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, this, when, when, when this new patch comes out, it's not really indicative to the efficiency of the four months schedule because they, it's, they haven't started that four month thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, well, yeah, and it's not, they didn't get the full four months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See, there it is full full four months to actually do this new system, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be the,

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[SPEAKER_00]: December match where it shows just kind of the getting back into the routine of things but also just need to get in the habit of being optimistic and not critical and just enjoying the process for what it is and playing something else if you don't like it and having a good time no matter what it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Agreed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't play Madden, which I am because it is infuriating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why do you play Madden?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you playing that with the fight front?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you with Ian and Brian?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But also it's a game that I can sim the entire game, but still be interactive with if I need to like offseason stuff and in between games, depth charts, upgrades.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's one of those games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like remember what I got into Sims for a bit trying to make that work and I guess it did but Sims is also EA and it got EAish very quick for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, Madden's the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can just have that on the background while I'm writing my book or I'm doing chores and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is, what do you mean about adding sweet weapon swapping features?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was just in case we got into like some of the, no, Google said sweats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love to be honest with weapon swapping.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing like a nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: putting your hands on a nice swede.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When we know that my character is struggling, a little bit sweaty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, gloves though, gloves, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gloves, no sweat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, no, I just, that was just in case we started talking about like needy gritty things like things that we were hoping and looking forward to coming out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have to talk anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have a thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really want they mentioned quite a few months ago now the idea that you can weapon lock a weapon set so that you're using the same weapon no matter which weapon set you swap to and they still haven't added that but that is stuck in my brain and all my theory crafting for weapon swapping and tree swapping revolves around the fact that

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can use that same weapon, therefore the same weapon skill, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because remember, you're only allowed one support for your entire build, which on a side note, I think it should be one support for weapons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: per weapon set.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess they would do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't either, but gladly, that's not something I need to figure out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not talking specifically to the weapon skills, but I'm saying out of all these skills you have, the ones that you've assigned to weapon set one or weapon set two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Only because, like, let's say I want minion instability on

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[SPEAKER_00]: my my skeletons right like my my sectors the the the two free ones that you get right so let's say on one weapon swap I only want two skeletons to do some exploding right they're going to trigger cast on minion death and whatever spells that I have associated to that most of the time for me that's curses but whatever it else that it could be

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[SPEAKER_00]: But let's say when I weapon swap, I actually want those skeletons to be a big part of my damage and I want all my spirit to be that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now I have like thirteen skeletons out instead of just two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I can't do that right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because I can only have minion instability on one skill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I weapon swap, I have to use a different sector, which is technically a difference of skeletons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I can only have minion instability on one weapon set.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't use it as utility for the other one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so to fix if they let you lock the weapon like what they would it would.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's one thing that I'm really hoping for because that even if they don't do any of the balance changes that I really wish that they would have kept up on as they've come out slowly with their different skills.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really, really want that one, just because then it still lets me do that theory crafting in my head of, oh, I would love to use this, but I could use it as utility for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's just all my ideas revolve around the concept that that is actually already in the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what's your weapon swap when you're playing minions?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like mine was only ever

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[SPEAKER_01]: maybe to get some spirit to move like the blink or I did it on one of my characters to heal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what is your weapon swap?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you weapon swapping for?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and like in this specific case, it would be so I'm trying to get zombies to work, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm doing let's see what was the setup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember it well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So one was herely

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[SPEAKER_00]: Minion instability, which was all the skeletons that I get from the sector are the primary damage, and that's what all my spirit is, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then because all of them are dying, if I do cast on minion death, all my man has gone, and I can't do anything, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're not really ready for the next cast because I'm just consuming it all, and then there's also like, I have thirteen minions around, and then the curses, I mean, sure if you have a big enough AOE, it doesn't matter, but the curses are kind of spread out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: which isn't helpful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like when you have three courses, you want all three courses to be on the same enemy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not looking for some temporal chains on the left side and in feeble on the right side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's not that that still provides an inconsistent gameplay experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're actually looking for value on the courses, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If all you care about is like that, impending doom damage and it doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you don't want all that spread around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would have minion instability.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, I'd have my skeletons consuming all of my spirit and I would have my cast on minion death triggers deactivated for that one weapon swap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that would be better for bosses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because, you know, there's no corpse guarantees for bosses yet, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas I could weapons swap and then have only two skeletons that are casting my curses, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're guaranteed to be in the same spot because the minions are close together and the curses are always going to be overlapping in terms of the area of effect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in those cases, you want minions to build it on both.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I see what you're saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then yeah, but I don't know what it is, but all my ideas revolver and it's probably just my experience path of Excel one and not being used to this concept that I can't have, meaning instability twice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you could do it if you were no use in the skeletons from the septor though like if you were using rivers or some one of the other skeletons then it would work but because you're using the skeletons from the septor that's the reason it wouldn't work because you could have it if you were using an actual minion skill because then you could have the minion instability on that one but yes I get what you're saying with regards to the skeletons that are coming from the septor

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then, I mean, there's also all the other skills that can be used there as well, like calling strike.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's another weapon skill that also I really wanted to use as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't really minded that you can only use one support per build.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like for me, it's made it kind of interesting trying to figure out how to put stuff together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do feel like it would

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that I would want it to be where you could just use any support as many times as you want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why I've enjoyed that part of POE II of like planning things out based on what skill you want to give the support to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't actually know if I feel like I would just use the same support over and over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that I actually would, but it's been interesting when you can't to try and figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they should go through a stand like a league where it's like, hey, we're temporarily trying out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can use whatever supports you want anytime you want and see what it's like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then just set the expectations that it could change back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually don't have a problem with it without weapon swapping.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like when I'm just thinking about one build where I'm not weapon swapping, I'm not using the really cool tree feature of like, oh, I have twenty four notes that I can swap between ideas and on the fly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have no problem with it, but it is very restrictive when you do want to do the weapon swapping.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like look at the skill that comes from the weapon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the part where I'm where I'm not experienced that is because I'm not typically using

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[SPEAKER_01]: the skill that the weapon provides a very often at least.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I do understand what you're saying there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that may be somewhere where I could see them there being a leniency on using multiple supports is when you're talking specifically for the weapon skill that that can have the same supports.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That part I could get along with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that actually I can understand that side of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's also similar outside, and I get, and I get where you're coming from and I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it can be added to just whatever your primary skill that you're using is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for example, on one of them, my primary skill would be calling strike.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, that does come from the weapon, but even if it wasn't right, it was, what is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Siphoning, wander, siphon, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is from one once.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a power siphon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm holding that down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I want mobility on that, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I want to move a little bit faster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's survivability.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want the mobility skill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's called mobility.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The one that makes you move faster while you're casting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then when I weapon swap, I'm going to incinerate because that has

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[SPEAKER_00]: the benefit of reducing the fire exposure, reducing enemy fire resistance, and then everybody, all my minions are going to be exploding the fire damage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So instead of power aside from my primary constantly casting skill is now incinerate, I would also like mobility on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But at that time, are you also using the one that gives you power siphon?

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[SPEAKER_01]: See, that's where I can say it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like if it's not active.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If it's not something you can't even use.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I've got it on my wand and I'm using power siphon and I've got mobility on there, while I have that, I cannot have a simple other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I have no idea how they would do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why my feeling was to the actual skill that's provided by the weapon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There I could see that you could have multiple the same one multiple times, but I don't know that I like that you could put them there and on skills as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's saying instead of power ciphon, I was using Frost Bowl.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like on one side, I was doing a cold casting character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm like, oh, no, I'm in the mood for fire based if I'm fighting a cold boss.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I swap between fire and cold.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mobility, if I have mobility on Frostbolt, I can't use it on a scenario.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I have it on a scenario, I can't use it on Frostbolt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if I don't want that inconsistency and character movement because to me that inconsistency will kill me when I move to the slower skill, so I'm just not going to use it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I will actually exclude supports that I would like to use because of inconsistency.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does that make sense?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know what you mean, but I actually don't mind that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, it's shifted the way I have to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it means that when I'm doing certain things like in your case, you're losing maybe the potential of moving, but are you gaining something out of it?

01:00:03.403 --> 01:00:05.665
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's a decision of whether or not that's worthwhile.

01:00:06.285 --> 01:00:06.825
[SPEAKER_01]: to use.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like the idea.

01:00:08.587 --> 01:00:10.808
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you talk about the mobility is a great one.

01:00:11.229 --> 01:00:15.392
[SPEAKER_01]: It would be on every, almost every single casting skill.

01:00:15.852 --> 01:00:19.175
[SPEAKER_01]: You would use it all of the time because it would move you faster while you're casting.

01:00:19.195 --> 01:00:25.780
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I like that there's some that it's not always the same one because you also lose the value of all the other supports.

01:00:26.540 --> 01:00:29.342
[SPEAKER_01]: If you, if you don't have that limitation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't like the idea that if I put, if I put mobility on my wand skill that if I, I can't have it on any my other skills, but if I swap to my other weapon, I can also have it on that weapon specific skill, then I can see that that seems fair.

01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:49.081
[SPEAKER_01]: But I actually don't mind that they're limited.

01:00:49.201 --> 01:00:55.066
[SPEAKER_01]: I, for me, it's always been fun to try and figure out what else can you put in there that's gonna make it work.

01:00:55.686 --> 01:01:01.731
[SPEAKER_01]: And look at the other options and granted that will be fun as they come out with even more, because then there's even more choices, right?

01:01:01.771 --> 01:01:09.577
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we're playing with a relatively low bar of how many supports there are going to be incongers and how many are going to be so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't know.

01:01:11.339 --> 01:01:11.759
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:01:11.859 --> 01:01:12.880
[SPEAKER_00]: Like look at the menu.

01:01:13.540 --> 01:01:15.162
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot, but there's going to be way more.

01:01:15.182 --> 01:01:19.325
[SPEAKER_00]: It's an interesting menu set up if there's going to be way way more.

01:01:19.345 --> 01:01:21.567
[SPEAKER_00]: You can see all the green, all the red, all the blue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.

01:01:23.364 --> 01:01:23.785
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.

01:01:24.065 --> 01:01:25.447
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's one key we win is.

01:01:25.967 --> 01:01:28.290
[SPEAKER_00]: So, well, yeah, try to make it a little bit better.

01:01:28.310 --> 01:01:30.132
[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess it still is better in the search function.

01:01:30.152 --> 01:01:31.093
[SPEAKER_00]: It's definitely a lot better.

01:01:31.133 --> 01:01:31.333
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

01:01:31.373 --> 01:01:32.915
[SPEAKER_00]: It's that the filter systems a lot better too.

01:01:32.935 --> 01:01:33.816
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe that doesn't matter.

01:01:35.278 --> 01:01:35.778
[SPEAKER_00]: Not the filter.

01:01:35.799 --> 01:01:38.141
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you have a good filter system, then

01:01:38.962 --> 01:01:52.803
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay, so here's the other thing though when it comes to weapon swapping and supports and all this kind of stuff in the one and again, like I'm not like a green or disagreeing it's it's just a lot right and they have lots of decisions to make and at the end of the day they'll make whatever it is, but it's you know it's

01:01:53.688 --> 01:01:56.371
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been tough for me to wrap my head around it and that's still.

01:01:56.411 --> 01:02:08.203
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm still waiting like that's that one thing I really desperately hoped they add is that ability to just lock my weapon so that I can use it for both both trees that already come out.

01:02:08.243 --> 01:02:09.104
[SPEAKER_00]: I do remember them talking.

01:02:09.124 --> 01:02:14.410
[SPEAKER_00]: They said they were going to, but then it wasn't applied, but then they never said that it wasn't applied.

01:02:14.430 --> 01:02:14.470
[SPEAKER_00]: So.

01:02:16.752 --> 01:02:19.614
[SPEAKER_00]: And so anyway, I had like three hours one session.

01:02:19.654 --> 01:02:20.734
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, once you go.

01:02:21.074 --> 01:02:21.495
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:02:21.655 --> 01:02:25.657
[SPEAKER_00]: It took me a long time and I was writing like a bug report on all this and I'm like, oh, they didn't add it.

01:02:25.677 --> 01:02:26.598
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:02:26.738 --> 01:02:30.600
[SPEAKER_00]: And that came from the try interview I think where you mentioned that they didn't add it yet.

01:02:31.120 --> 01:02:31.680
[SPEAKER_00]: But okay.

01:02:31.700 --> 01:02:32.321
[SPEAKER_00]: So now think of this.

01:02:32.561 --> 01:02:32.741
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:02:32.901 --> 01:02:38.524
[SPEAKER_00]: Spears were recently added to the game and Spears have two innate skills they come with.

01:02:38.844 --> 01:02:41.306
[SPEAKER_00]: They come with the melee poke and they come with a spear throw.

01:02:41.866 --> 01:02:43.347
[SPEAKER_00]: but you can only use one support.

01:02:43.767 --> 01:02:54.513
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's say now I don't remember what the path of Excel two titles are, but let's use the path of Excel one verb titles for the path of Excel two gems like chance to poison.

01:02:55.113 --> 01:03:03.518
[SPEAKER_00]: In my head, if I have chance to poison on my spear, both of those skills should be chance to poison, both the melee and the ranged.

01:03:04.178 --> 01:03:06.980
[SPEAKER_00]: But in the skill screen, there are two skills.

01:03:07.700 --> 01:03:14.765
[SPEAKER_00]: So only my ranged throw has a chance to poison or my melee poke and they're different.

01:03:15.186 --> 01:03:23.331
[SPEAKER_00]: But if I want my whole build to revolve around that theme, I can only then use the ranged or the melee.

01:03:23.912 --> 01:03:30.977
[SPEAKER_01]: So I do agree with what you're saying and the concept of like if I put chance poison in my in my spear, it should do it to both.

01:03:31.748 --> 01:03:38.332
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the one thing, though, is as you progress your build, it's very, very, you're using those.

01:03:39.072 --> 01:03:47.117
[SPEAKER_01]: My Amazon, I used the spear throw for a bit, because it was very strong, and you can still make it very strong, but the poke was not.

01:03:47.697 --> 01:03:54.261
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, I don't know how super common it is that the weapon skill is what the build is eventually going to be.

01:03:55.041 --> 01:04:01.145
[SPEAKER_01]: So I know what you're saying, but I also, sometimes the weapon skills are pointless, and you're not going to use them.

01:04:01.628 --> 01:04:03.809
[SPEAKER_00]: for now, I think that's a balanced thing.

01:04:03.949 --> 01:04:06.710
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's something that I don't know if it is.

01:04:06.991 --> 01:04:09.712
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually, it's one thing I hated about the warrior.

01:04:10.272 --> 01:04:12.313
[SPEAKER_01]: Was it the warrior's axe attack?

01:04:13.034 --> 01:04:17.276
[SPEAKER_01]: Was monstrously stronger single target than any skill?

01:04:17.336 --> 01:04:19.197
[SPEAKER_01]: At least a point one, one point one cameo.

01:04:19.977 --> 01:04:22.158
[SPEAKER_01]: That was the way to make your build strong.

01:04:22.278 --> 01:04:24.379
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't, for some reason that bothered me.

01:04:24.419 --> 01:04:29.822
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay, it should be strong, but like, don't make that better than any skill that I can get.

01:04:30.542 --> 01:04:32.063
[SPEAKER_01]: For some reason, I don't know why that bothered me.

01:04:32.103 --> 01:04:33.863
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it shouldn't, maybe that should be fine.

01:04:33.903 --> 01:04:35.604
[SPEAKER_01]: But first, in my brain, it bothered me.

01:04:35.644 --> 01:04:38.405
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay, I'm going to use it because it's so stupidly strong.

01:04:38.785 --> 01:04:40.705
[SPEAKER_01]: It was the same with the spear throw from the Amazon.

01:04:40.725 --> 01:04:43.226
[SPEAKER_01]: The spear throw was crazy strong for single target.

01:04:44.326 --> 01:04:48.188
[SPEAKER_01]: But I still, I don't know, man, I know what you're talking about.

01:04:48.228 --> 01:04:52.269
[SPEAKER_01]: If I put chance of poison on a skill that's connected to my weapon, it should just be on both.

01:04:53.213 --> 01:04:57.596
[SPEAKER_00]: It isn't interesting one for that specific and who know because they don't have all the weapon types so yet either.

01:04:58.036 --> 01:05:03.280
[SPEAKER_00]: So what if when they come up with daggers, it comes out with a dagger throw and the dagger swipe or whatever it is, right?

01:05:04.121 --> 01:05:11.646
[SPEAKER_00]: There is a point where because they do still despite the fact that it's a fantasy game, they still have the attempt of realism, right?

01:05:11.686 --> 01:05:12.707
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know what I mean?

01:05:12.727 --> 01:05:16.870
[SPEAKER_00]: So there is a part of me where maybe they should share like

01:05:17.550 --> 01:05:29.900
[SPEAKER_00]: If I don't know, like on the skill screen, if you have your spear throw and your spear jab, it shows the different tags for both skills, but then it's like it has one of them's grayed out, and it's just a mirrored copy.

01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:37.026
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like all the supports you put in are mirrored, but then at the same time, some of them are for projectiles, and then some are for melee.

01:05:37.586 --> 01:05:44.032
[SPEAKER_00]: So like let's say you put one in that isn't specific to melee or projectile, it's copied to both.

01:05:44.672 --> 01:05:45.613
[SPEAKER_00]: But what did you do?

01:05:45.693 --> 01:05:46.394
[SPEAKER_01]: I copied though.

01:05:46.534 --> 01:05:49.176
[SPEAKER_01]: What if you wanted to do something different?

01:05:50.297 --> 01:05:50.957
[SPEAKER_00]: I hear you.

01:05:51.878 --> 01:05:55.281
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was bothersome to me when I was trying out the hunter.

01:05:55.301 --> 01:05:56.101
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, oh, sweet.

01:05:56.141 --> 01:06:02.527
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's, you know, melee this or let's let's chance to poison this and I realize that I could it limited me to one skill.

01:06:03.127 --> 01:06:06.950
[SPEAKER_00]: And so there is that consequence that I do think needs to be considered.

01:06:07.911 --> 01:06:09.212
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it should be ignored.

01:06:09.532 --> 01:06:13.196
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it does need to be something that's I'm sure they've talked about it.

01:06:13.236 --> 01:06:15.537
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think it's maybe probably not ignored.

01:06:15.578 --> 01:06:20.382
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just they've had the opinion that it's one support and it's just regardless of of whatever.

01:06:21.042 --> 01:06:28.351
[SPEAKER_01]: However, those skills show up, I do understand what you're saying, though, because you're not applying chance to poison to your weapon.

01:06:28.451 --> 01:06:31.455
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you are to the skill within the weapon.

01:06:32.055 --> 01:06:38.964
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like you're coding it in a, you know, in a vile of venom to chance to poison.

01:06:40.265 --> 01:06:45.629
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just don't, I don't know that I want my build to center around a weapon skill.

01:06:46.029 --> 01:06:49.752
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't mind that they're strong, but I don't know.

01:06:49.792 --> 01:06:51.573
[SPEAKER_00]: It depends what the balance is going to be.

01:06:51.873 --> 01:07:01.901
[SPEAKER_00]: Right now, skills cost a lot of mana and not attacks, but spells, especially things like the support stuff like curses and those other things, it costs a lot of mana.

01:07:02.301 --> 01:07:09.227
[SPEAKER_00]: But maybe that's the design because you're supposed to use your weapon skill too because it costs no mana to use your weapon skill.

01:07:09.267 --> 01:07:10.568
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe that's the design.

01:07:10.988 --> 01:07:16.993
[SPEAKER_00]: Things cost a stupid amount of mana because you're supposed to balance it with your free costing skills.

01:07:17.714 --> 01:07:32.440
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you want to use something permanent by ignoring your weapon skills, like in my examples, incinerate, okay, fine, revolve around that, but that just means now you're gonna have to have way more man or region if you want some of those really heavy costing supports as well.

01:07:32.961 --> 01:07:43.065
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe that's the design, but if that's the case, then of course, now it's like, oh shoot, this is very relevant and I can only poison with my ranged attack, not with my melee attack.

01:07:43.571 --> 01:07:52.119
[SPEAKER_00]: But if that's not the case, if they want it to be just another decent option, then maybe it's just not the balance that they're currently looking for.

01:07:52.159 --> 01:07:53.300
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's the way that it currently is.

01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:59.325
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I mean they've also come up with chance of poison is only one part of getting chance to poison.

01:07:59.385 --> 01:08:05.230
[SPEAKER_01]: So there are other ways of getting chance to poison on some of your skills, but early on and stuff.

01:08:05.330 --> 01:08:06.031
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know what you mean.

01:08:06.588 --> 01:08:12.553
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, sure, but even like, you look at every single other skill and it's the same or support and it's the same thing.

01:08:12.573 --> 01:08:19.519
[SPEAKER_00]: Whether you're looking at stunning or increasing your AOE or, you know, something like just those mastery ones where it's like plus one to chaos skills.

01:08:20.240 --> 01:08:22.562
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it's so good if you could just put that on everything though.

01:08:23.142 --> 01:08:24.023
[SPEAKER_00]: I like definitely.

01:08:24.083 --> 01:08:25.564
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying I'm not saying that.

01:08:25.644 --> 01:08:28.666
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like I now the conversation specifically.

01:08:28.686 --> 01:08:30.767
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know where you're still.

01:08:30.787 --> 01:08:32.088
[SPEAKER_01]: One is really tough.

01:08:32.488 --> 01:08:40.713
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I do like that you're limited because you think about like chance to poison for example, you it you would put on it would be on every single skill if you happen to be playing a poison build.

01:08:41.274 --> 01:08:45.657
[SPEAKER_01]: You would have you would need to probably run it on multiple skills depend on how many skills you're going to use.

01:08:46.377 --> 01:08:50.282
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the put me in a hard spot to figure something out.

01:08:50.382 --> 01:08:51.143
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of like that.

01:08:51.243 --> 01:08:57.289
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the struggle of the choice, like that as I progress with my things.

01:08:58.310 --> 01:09:00.152
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not an easy choice, at least for me.

01:09:00.193 --> 01:09:00.533
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not.

01:09:00.793 --> 01:09:02.115
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to sit there and think for a minute.

01:09:02.613 --> 01:09:07.496
[SPEAKER_00]: totally agree, and that's what I love about the other role-playing games that I used to love.

01:09:08.016 --> 01:09:21.545
[SPEAKER_00]: When they're, and I guess this kind of goes against GGG's respecking policy now, but back when respecking was really difficult in Path of Excel, or in Dark Souls One, where you couldn't respect or in Fallout Three, where you couldn't respect, give one attribute point.

01:09:21.945 --> 01:09:27.389
[SPEAKER_00]: You're looking to spend, and you're like, I'm sitting there by Andre the Blacksmith's Dark Souls One, and he's going ding.

01:09:29.470 --> 01:09:32.575
[SPEAKER_00]: Ding, and I'm like, oh, I don't really know how to go.

01:09:32.635 --> 01:09:39.665
[SPEAKER_00]: Spread seed out my poor wife's fall asleep on the couch beside me back in the day back in the romantic days when we used to watch each other play video games.

01:09:40.266 --> 01:09:42.189
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I don't even watch your streams, but

01:09:44.332 --> 01:09:54.895
[SPEAKER_00]: and I'm on the other side of the house, but you know back in the day and she would fall asleep to Andre going, and then she'd wake up because of all the dinging and then she's still here, the dinging and that makes me a choice, Tyler.

01:09:54.915 --> 01:10:00.056
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly, and I'm like, but you're, does adding seven locked to my character?

01:10:00.076 --> 01:10:00.616
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that wonderful?

01:10:02.617 --> 01:10:03.738
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, I know.

01:10:04.438 --> 01:10:08.101
[SPEAKER_00]: So like, that's what really makes it fun.

01:10:08.701 --> 01:10:12.544
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that impossible or very difficult choice?

01:10:13.644 --> 01:10:17.387
[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, though, then we now we're getting back into your campaign length thing.

01:10:18.818 --> 01:10:27.664
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why respeckings really nice in this because you don't want to go through and have like no respecking options, but have an AD hour campaign just to get to do it.

01:10:27.684 --> 01:10:29.725
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, oh, I don't really like this didn't work.

01:10:30.186 --> 01:10:47.137
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's one thing I am very much enjoying about the freedom of this game with how sockets work and colors work and how respecking the attribute point costs half and you can do it on the fly without respecking your whole tree kind of like how you could do clusters in the old game.

01:10:47.837 --> 01:10:50.900
[SPEAKER_00]: And like, I'm really liking the direction that they're going.

01:10:51.200 --> 01:10:55.924
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I am extra antsy about this August release.

01:10:56.004 --> 01:10:57.345
[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever it is, whatever it is.

01:10:57.365 --> 01:10:58.386
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, too.

01:10:58.866 --> 01:11:05.572
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw somebody say a comment that Justin just wants them to add seven league steps to the game for when you complete the campaign.

01:11:05.632 --> 01:11:06.372
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, uh-huh.

01:11:07.593 --> 01:11:10.035
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

01:11:10.575 --> 01:11:10.936
[SPEAKER_01]: I do.

01:11:11.396 --> 01:11:12.217
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me move faster.

01:11:12.237 --> 01:11:13.858
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, sweet.

01:11:14.359 --> 01:11:15.980
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's wrap this up forever, Excel.

01:11:17.782 --> 01:11:46.153
[SPEAKER_01]: Three hundred and four just naked tags Tyler record of days patrons will catch you and after dark everybody else we'll see you next week in three hundred and five we got a website forever extra calm we have a very fun discord pop in there and say hello and a patreon and other way sport podcast you'll find them down below have a great great week man I really really wanted to like have the most ultimate burp there just like the worst deepest now I couldn't it was gonna come like on the cat

01:11:47.100 --> 01:11:48.526
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was gonna come out.

01:11:48.546 --> 01:11:49.350
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's too bad.

01:11:49.952 --> 01:11:51.719
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, yeah, great week or whatever.