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[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to Forever XL them just naked tags, and I'm Tyler record days.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was about 314 314 of Forever XL.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There it is.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There it is.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Just missing the two three 24.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So what do you mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not just like 1 2 3 4.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's gonna be 3 2 in there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Have a look at their one day, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: 1 2 3 4.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're here three hundred fourteen big show to our patrons thanks everybody who resubbed up this week's patron is Great we're support podcast get the access after dark and we just keep talking about stuff and things and The stuff things are great absolutely they were more POE last week How how's your week?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well you take a sip what's your drinkin?

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's coffee Wait, I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, I'll spend it's coffee.

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[SPEAKER_04]: How's your week?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ugh!

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a good week, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's nice to have the fall weather back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoy fall weather.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I get to bring up some of my long slave shirts, my hoodies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, it's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can't complain about people not recognizing my path of Excel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who do you any more or who do you use that I have now because uh, somebody last week recognized as I was walking in the park.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Guy driving his little

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, this week was just a lot of the usual, you know, one of my kids got picked on at school.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So came home in some years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A bit about that about, you know, went to, went to walk away and, you know, the desire to fight the fist of cuffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that sucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't, you know, like little things like idiots or idiots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't need to listen to them, but it's tough because it hurts anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Totally that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but they're all distracted by the kittens that we have, and the kitten life is good, they are so bloody stupid, and they are so lucky they are cute, but they are just as annoying as they are wonderful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the goal is to have them as indoor only cats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They switch it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were born in Johnson's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, the origin, the first two that we had were supposed to be indoor only as well, but I don't think happened to another and we ended up making them outdoor cats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the outdoors didn't kill him, so that was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it sucks because I hate, like I like having the windows wide open, but our cats aren't microchipped yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So even if they were to press against a screen and it fall out, because our screens are all like all the clips are loose like the screens we have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Barely hang on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's probably never gonna get fixed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, now we can't really have the windows too far open in case the dumb things lean against it and then they fall outside and whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I hate that because I love having open windows or, you know, is that does that get changed?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like when do you have has microchiping work such as the decision on microchiping?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, that happens when they get spayed and neutered.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But even then we don't want them to be outside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even if their microchip just means that somebody could bring them back to us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but they probably won't, and of course, and those things are is it just, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, it's just when they bring them to a vet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I found this basket and then scan the back and then it shows up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a universal thing or nationwide thing, whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Why are they not put those into kids yet?

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like they could be able to with like a little button like in Thor Ragnarok where when he, you know, spoke bad She could just press his hand and electrocuted it easy just a small one just a small one kid all my poor son So last night like my wife and I were big big BJ fans right big blue J fans and baseball and

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you can never miss an opportunity for a good in your window.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you name your team, like, I've never understood team names that's like, well, I'm the Cardinals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or even like, I guess Ravens are okay, but they're not really scary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just smart birds, but like, I'm the Cardinals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the Bluegees.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the Red Sox.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Even like you get into like the name that has to be scary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't feel like you have like, well, you have like the Montreal Canadians, the Vancouver Connects means Canadian.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Ronald Maple Leafs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you don't even say Leafs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not L-E-A-F-S.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not plural.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, but like, like, oh, that's what we're going to name our team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when we go into another team, like, think about like the Pittsburgh Steelers, somebody who works a steel mill, that's scary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You get a team together of steel workers,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're we're the Toronto teachers were the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we know who's going to win that football match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just hear those things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So where did this Blue Jays are?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right the Blue Jays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the Blue Jays are playing the Yankees and the Blue Jays have been

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really doing well in the season and the playoffs and they're they're doing a great job But it's exciting for Blue J Spans because baseball is very difficult to get my body boring But yeah, never never never never baseball's very difficult to get in the playoffs even though They recently made it easier and so the blues is applying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like final pitch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's bottom of the ninth

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have our superstar Closer in who's not pitching very super starry, but like, oh, it's two strikes, two outs and my poor son.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I give him such a hard time of, like, I've had to tell him a thousand times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, don't touch other people's screens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whether it's their watches, whether it's their phones like that's their personal stuff, it's not your business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So even if all they're doing is like I play the tower.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So even if my tower game is up and it's just a quick button to claim something that's just passive and it rewards you for playing like don't let the person know but you never touch someone else's phone without asking them and never expect them to say yes because it's their

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[SPEAKER_01]: sure for you it's just games but for them they have a whole lot of personal stuff on there that's nobody's business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm trying to teach them fall in respect and screen respect but he's a kid so his brain's just like screen screen screen screen and so it's bottom of the ninth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: two strikes, two outs, and Oliver, he's just trying to be silly, because he knows he's not allowed to touch my wife's watch, screen watch, and he's like trying to grab it, trying to grab it, trying to grab it, and as the strike outs happening, she's having to fight him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the blue jays win epic strike out, everybody's cheering champagne everywhere, and my poor wife's like fighting my son.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so

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[SPEAKER_01]: he got in huge crap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not because of the moment, I had to make sure it wasn't because of the moment, but I had to point out, you know, I got this moment and then the screens and the poor kid, like, there was this epic moment and I, like, dude, like, if you can't do the little things, and I just felt so bad and got wrenched, but it was on, like, it needed to be talked just because of the timing of it all and how often I talked to him about it, I had to talk to him about it and got him in trouble and he felt so bad because that was the same day he got picked on a school

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, yeah, so it was a heavy, heavy day.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But it had he been chipped and you could have just zapped him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the whole point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the whole point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could have just at the very like without even interrupting without raising my voice with you in and he looks at you and you're like hmm, and that's right, and I do it before the final pitch, so then he gets to well, no, because he was doing it for the last two, but my wife was letting it be a game, but then I was trying to correct myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my wife and I run it and happens all the time where with parents were like one parent's like, oh, now it's time to be leaning the other parents like, no, now it's time to be strict.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I could have just given them a little zip zip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And everybody would have seen the pitch and the celebration.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel right for the kid and today's going to be a good day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was it was impacting enough for me yesterday that he didn't today as he's going to school.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, Dad, I hope today's going to be a good day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope so too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been so excited to play football.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been so into Madden and they were like crashing his soul about his football skills on the field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it would suck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you know, to be discouraged enough that you don't want to play what you want to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So no, I hope you keep doing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It sucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, me too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, I don't know what I was like when I was 10.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I probably just rolled over and let them kick me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but good times, good times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the one thing that I did want to mention is that with these indoor cats while we're on the subject, I hate going outside without a pet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I loved with my outdoor cats, I could leave the front door open, like my mom stopped by and say goodbye, I gave her the turkey that we got, and she's going to host thanksgiving dinner on this day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I gave her the turkey, she comes over to get it, and she's going to start thawing it, but I have to shut the door.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that, I liked it, like the cats have both come out with me before, and they would just, they wouldn't explore too far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They would just come back in when I went in, but it was nice to have them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hate going outside without a dog, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm going, I'm not, I'm at that old man stage now, where I just have to go for walks for the sake of going for walks, like you said you were doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm having to do it, but I don't have a dog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It feels weird walking without a dog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need a dog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love my kittens, but I need a dog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, and that is the last thing I was going to ask you of Tyler how how to what makes some one decide in Noriverses Outdoor like what's your reason for choosing into where we live its longevity of the cat Where we live cats The raccoonly die on an average age of five instead of 50 Oh, really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Raccoons, coyotes,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably not a local thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably everywhere, just because of phones and rushing and just the way culture is now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I hate the fact that my kids walk to school and ride their bikes to school on their own.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're totally fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The funny enough, the other day, Violet was riding or walking to school and a bear across the street on the other side of the street.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they had little warnings like the school district sent out, oh, just FYI, yeah, there's, you know, around the area.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that was like week and a half ago, and she was like, oh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was actually mentioned, yeah, yeah, she saw like in her head because she's a daydreamer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, well, that's a big dog and then she looked things like, oh, oh, but then she didn't get she just kept walking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She wasn't scared.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She just kept walking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's probably in lawland in two seconds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, some sort of two, two on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, hey, it's all, oh, good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, those little things, on bears aren't little, but most of the time it's traffic, outdoor cats just don't have the same chances.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like two days ago, Christina was leaving to go to work and she's like, look at the cameras, look what happened.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I watch her back out of the driveway, back out onto the road.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So she's now fully on the road.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But she's like, turn her wheels or head and down the hill.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Cars coming up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So they've sort of moved away and all of a sudden a car comes flying over the hill.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Goes around Christina and in between her and this other car to continue down the hill.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You just, it was shocking, I was like, and then we knew the kids' mom.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We knew the kid.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was one of my friends.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, my friend's mom is stupid.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Your friend's mom is an idiot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's something in me words.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just kind of like you wouldn't, like, I enjoy my books.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoy my sci-fi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there's all these different worlds and cultures where discipline actions work different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Democracy is laughed at instead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like there's just all these different worlds

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like, you know, some people just, you wouldn't feel too bad if they all of a sudden just went missing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, not at all.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And it's those drivers, it's those drivers, especially near schools and like third I will force people to drive 30 in a in a school zone.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I could not care how and and it's even worse in the ones around that I know my kids go to You are not going faster Definitely not Definitely not I wait to hit the crosswalk button with flashing lights.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wait to hit it until no a fast car I'm talking with someone I will interrupt that conversation to cross a street and leave them until the next day If a fan sparser is coming And I'll just start walking up and yeah get out of here

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've survived this long, 30 kilometers an hour buster on a total side now, and this has nothing to do with path of exile like anything else, but it's always a pleasure to talk to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand why there's school zones and playground zones, where we live a playground zone is dawn to dusk, seven days a week, 30 clicks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No matter what, seven days a week, dawn to dusk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome rules.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A school zone is actually less than that, not than speaking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's 30 clicks, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: times of day instead of dawn to dusk and it's but I never understood what doesn't do weekends because kids go to the school all the time to play at the playground like that's a place that the city has for them to play it's the exact same thing as a playground zone yeah I don't know and how somebody like I didn't have kids until I was 85 like how am I supposed to know what a school day is like pro-dead days or days off or when summer starts

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if there's rules on's not applied in their school zone speeds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that I don't either, I'm a parent, but yeah, I'm not going to play ground zone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And people don't have to know we're care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't, I shouldn't need to be 25 years old working graveyard shifts and pay attention of what day school's on or off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, I'm with you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: How was yours?

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's one of your us that's a school zone and a playground zone and I've gotten a ticket there once and so But I was like, what the?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Because the signages bad and even the cop was like, Oh, you're right and literally like three weeks later There was a proper sign up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So it's just still didn't give me a warning

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[SPEAKER_04]: for he can rude.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, uh, my week was good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Also, um, happy Thanksgiving.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, can you do Thanksgiving?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you do Thanksgiving?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you do Thanksgiving?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can that's the one that matters?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the one that matters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're an extra thankful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why we have it now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why we have it now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've never looked into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But our time is better than your timing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Whoever you are, I think there's this like so close to Christmas time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's it's like, I think it's a month closer than ours.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think I think.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to admit though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Giving gifts, I don't know if they still give gifts or not, crazy Yankees, who lost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But giving gifts at a date, a day that says thankful, like it's thankful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we don't give gifts at Thanksgiving.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that makes sense to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Christmas never made sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A tradition tradition.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So who gives it credit?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like you congratulate somebody on living another year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's a couple gifts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Something in of you awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's your special day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A day of thankfulness.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, hey, I'm thankful for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's a, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: something sucks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Christmas just like it, it just makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, anyway, happy Thanksgiving.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm excited for ours because it's going to be down, so that's going to be fun weekend hanging out with him and everybody here at our house again.

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[SPEAKER_04]: My week was, it was good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I worked, did my walking, still loving it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I tried a 40-hour fast this week.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I decided I was going to try and fast for 48 hours.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Which is good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The purpose of that was, if I wasn't a youth bit.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, not totally, but I've been doing intermittent fasting for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'd read some of the benefits of it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, man, I may as well try it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: See how it goes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was actually now what you're intermittent fasting is two days off one day on.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, I couldn't do it often.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I would like to try a 72 hour one.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just curious to see how that would go.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But it was good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was actually quite good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I liked it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, the week's been good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Walk in my my appointment for my procedures been kicked up to this afternoon.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, oh.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Wait, which procedure?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like the one you've been waiting 20 years for?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Not well, so no, because I have to do two, after two procedures before they'll do the disc replacement, they where they test.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but this is, this is one process.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This isn't like this isn't like this is the first of 30.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, this is the first attempt to see if it fixes it or if they can find a solution.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So awesome.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so I'm going there this afternoon to have that procedure done and then yeah, they called yesterday they're like, oh, we go to cancellation.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Could be the way.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Sign me up, but otherwise, I was good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I started watching my, so I had seen it and heard of it before.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then my brother likes to, you know, give me her time, make fun of me because I love the farming stuff.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And he's like, oh, you watch Clarkson Clarkson's farm.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And it's the guy who had, uh, hold on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that on TV or YouTube?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Not like a man or someone, Amazon.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's on Amazon.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And hold on, I'm trying to remember, I can't remember what the show was, and as soon as I say, you're going to be like, well, you should know that, okay, hang on, what am I supposed to say now you'll know the TV show that he did before he had a it was all about cars.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I didn't like that show.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, but you know what I'm talking about?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do and then he got and like he was punching he got in trouble for punching some Jeremy Clarkson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, did he?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know any of his history.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've never watched it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've a show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not like it's not a judging thing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, just well Clarkson's alright I Loved it

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[SPEAKER_04]: Love loved love love.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not I mean, I already a couple of episodes in but oh my gosh.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm laughing at things like I'm I and then it's he went to an auction where it's just on this monstrous field and you just have all these people's used

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[SPEAKER_04]: Farm equipment that they're selling that would be the funnest thing ever to walk through like it would just be I would it was just so fun.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And he I was laughing till and Christina like he He's at this auction and then the he's in the UK.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's in somewhere in England and he's in like a you know One of these little Canterbury places where there's like castles and whatever anyway He's got like a thousand acres of someone from England heard that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I feel like very I feel like that's a chocolate, but maybe not

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, he goes to this auction and man, he looks back at the camera and he says, you know, they wanted diversity and here you have it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And he points out words and he's like, we have every version of a white six-year-old male here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh man, it made me laugh.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, my my week was good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was meetings, but I'm excited for going for this point.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And tomorrow we're recording early too.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So what the week's not totally done, but yeah, we'll see what goes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to record after dark tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll be able to tell you an after dark.

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[SPEAKER_04]: How am I?

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[SPEAKER_04]: If I can still walk.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I hope you can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you have actually a pretty good house for being wheelchair-bound.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have a great house for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just in a ramp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just for that small entrance, but that's the small entrance floor you have is fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the main floor is not too bad, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think you're all sitting here to bedroom.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, I have no plans.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna do stairs.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm fine.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Actually, you can just keep your office as your office and just put a bed in it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I used to have the couch room with the couch.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's what we used to play, I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Video games.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, that was good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was a good week.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I played, I didn't really play too much.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I played a little bit of bank abong.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I talked to you last, and after our class week, I played the new patch for Pewey for a little bit, and then that's it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Started watching Black Mirror with Christina, which is

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I heard you tolerate the first episode and then everything's good after that first like individual stories every episode, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love that and then some of them are pretty nuts.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We've only the third season, but the first two seasons are only three episodes each, they're quite short.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And it took us until the third season and then the second episode of the third season, we were like,

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was so good, the actor was so good, like it was such a crazy, crazy weird one.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But second or third.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, yeah, it's been a good week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do we do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I add, I think I might have already recommended this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm going to recommend it again just in case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you seen criminal?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's on Netflix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not being interrogated for a situation that's happened in an interrogation room.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's it's one of those like I used to really love and brag about shows that I've seen where there's No, it looks in constantly cut scenes phenomenal phenomenal phenomenal stuff and then of course at a lessons comes out and just It makes it a normal thing where it's like you have the camera all over the same

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, criminal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it came out a while ago, but it's just, there are one hour episodes of the camera doesn't stop of people being interrogated for Unaccused crime, and obviously you get the whole story as the dialogue happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But really, really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I recommend it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if Black Mirror ends up short and you're like, oh, criminal, I haven't watched any of the subtitle ones because they have a German one, a Spanish one, a French one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but the English one, the, and the reason that I said that was like, there's just a few episodes like you just had a season three episode two, where the acting just blew your mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what criminal was for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, interesting.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, uh, Black Mirror's kind of just filler for us to figure out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like there's shows were waiting to come out or something.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember why, but Witcher came out with their trailer.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, with the new guy for season four with Liam Hemms.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How did you find the trailer?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you watch it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am really excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I I agree with Henry Caval.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, okay, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Forget PathFix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're so excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're so excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like I loved the Henry Caval.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bit

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I even love why I left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm the kind of person where I need somebody in the film industry to explain to me why you can take an original piece of work and it has to change for the screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some individual concepts I agree with, with just logistics, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some stuff has to change, but to completely modify stories makes no sense to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what the Witcher is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Witcher is so just from its foundation, very, very different from the source material, which is the books and from what I know that's why Henry left, but I I love the story in the Witcher like I really like what they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the acting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the stories like I actually don't have any complaints about I wish it followed the source material.

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[SPEAKER_01]: maybe even better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, I am really excited about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, I, I, I mean, that casting and make up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can tell it's a different actor, but goodness doesn't look good in comparison.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious to see how he does when it comes out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Do you, do you care?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Are you going to watch it?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we'll watch it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but both of us are good, not super fans of the change, but we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_04]: My wife's on the on the page, or she's not even going to watch it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we'll see what happens when it comes to that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I won't give up on the idea of the stories.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I love Witcher, and they were great to watch.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm also not a purist, so I couldn't care less if they like turn away from certain parts of the story.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But I will care if I feel different about the character.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like if it's hard to, because you've watched whatever three seasons, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: With somebody, it's really hard when you change the main character.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually one thing that I'm looking forward to and I hope they change is I loved how Henry Cavalry did Geralt but I didn't like it just seemed like his vibe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just seemed too forced in some situations like it was just like too grunty to I don't know I just didn't seem like a real voice a lot of the times when he spoke so I hope it seems a lot more natural.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway I'm glad you have your appointment coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We do

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[SPEAKER_04]: Me too, um, lawns are good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I still don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have stuff going happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's some of some of it's growing some of it's growing but I like I'm done fighting birds, man I'm done I am going to now be like I'm going to be hands on but I'm going to be the most apathetic grass grow on the planet I'm not even going to water my seeds anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just I don't even know if I'm going to buy seeds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to hand weed all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll do like 50 weeds a day front and back

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, 15 minutes worth whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And let the birds have it like, but it's growing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, pretty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like kids first pubes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess you could say they're not all together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, it's getting there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, ear muffs on that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Any parents with the kids, but we're 18 plus right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like a permanent setting.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't do it per episode because I don't it's going to happen Yeah, definitely you don't want to forget and then you're screw them and it's like that one time you screw up, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's like an athlete for twitch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, why I'm I have like the 18 plus thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my broadcast and I'm like I like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I get screwed up, that's 20 to 20 parent that's like watching at the same time as their kid or something and I say something stupid because I'm not paying attention and I don't even know it's offensive, but it is and I get crap.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of them that don't, because I remember when my kids even back to when Ethan was little not little, but like.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Preteen throwing on a couple like minecraft people that he'd want to watch play and I'm like okay We'd watch them play and they were it felt like they were like great I could leave my kid.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This was fine, and then all of a sudden something went happen.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You're like, oh man Come on so close Sure, all right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What's this week in Pioi?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no munch

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, we have a lot of things to do.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Hold on, our private league starts.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It does.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It starts tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is two days ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're looking for those things tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Thursday today for us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good luck, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you die lots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to play.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's an our discord information in and out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a very small group.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This this private league sort of be fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for Path 1 and 2, there really was nothing, there was one patch, two technically, but one patch for PoE2, and then a two-second video on highlights from the Tokyo game show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They actually add people to dress up and act as the classes, and they seem like really in character epic costumes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It seemed really, really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Grining your game status?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It could take pictures.

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[SPEAKER_04]: that definitely seems like a Tokyo style thing versus like when you like you'd see that for sure more out that way than like we didn't see any of that kind of settled this way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so it was I mean that was cool to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there was a path of one announcement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess this is the it's big news, but it's little news.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just three twenty seven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is coming out on Halloween.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, interesting data release it, but that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe it's spooky themed.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe it's a spooky league.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And that'd be pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still waiting for the, even though I'm not on path one anymore, I'm still waiting for the creepy clown zombie mtx.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll still buy it even though I've been waiting for that or like a creepy tree end or like you get the square crow, but with the pumpkin head or something the creepy pumpkin head for your zombies or skeletons, still wait and still wait.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, looking forward to it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Live stream is the 23rd, oh, so that's two weeks from now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And normally, if my memory serves me correctly, which it never does, they normally say what's happening with the most recently released league when they talk about the dates for the new one, but they said either they don't know or what, but they're like, we'll find out what happens from

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they didn't say anything about the current lead going core or not, they just said that this is when the live stream is this is when the release date is and See then yeah, I was just rereading it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So the mercenary league ends and we'll let you know what's happening with our triathlon friends and enemies closely into the interesting

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[SPEAKER_01]: So do you obviously leagues change a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You look at things like harvest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You look at things like, well, I guess Delft didn't actually change a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you look at so many of these league mechanics that get added to the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when they get added to Core, like you look at the Kings March, how much that needed to change to be added to the Core game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still wish more was temporary than core, but if they were to add your friends from the town of Tristan into the core game, do you see that working, how would you change it to make it work?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what, how would you enjoy it if it was core?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Which town are we talking all I heard when you said that and I'm sorry I blanked after that was Tristrum and then I started thinking of the Ablo and so which town People from Traw thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thrower thr

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[SPEAKER_04]: And how would you actually think it would be fun or worthwhile or I don't I don't really know like I actually did like them Mostly just because it made the You know you could switch up the builds a tiny bit because of the aura especially Like whatever skills that they were casting or or as they were holding for me

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, actually, you could make them build the finding as well with some uniques.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There was some ways to actually make them change your build up quite a bit.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not sure.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the problem is it's a, the, the, the, the mercenaries represented a relatively large power spike to the player.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So taking that away is going to be a little bit tough.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Because you've our mercenaries worth it if you lower the power spike.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know I maybe I mean they're always sure that the always would be I mean if you could always have a minion with you that does something Yes, there's always gonna be some benefit that no matter what

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how they, how you sort of make them more nerf, though, and still valuable.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not really sure.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I also build a find with whatever they do.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If they take it out, they take it out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not really a big deal to me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: To me, losing them is not the same as taking out some of the other lead mechanics where there was a place or, you know, they just represented something you would find throughout the area.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you encounter them every map, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You want that

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[SPEAKER_01]: it was every single minute.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You could choose to skip them, but there was a benefit to doing them, but they also, like, you find out if we do, when you play the R-Hardcore League, they can kick your ass in less than a half a second.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, oh yeah, this will be the first time I even encounter them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so they are just think back to betrayal when it first came out and that you'd try to run away from it every single time because they are great.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They are beneficial, but they were certain ones, unless they were ever nerfed, were very, very dangerous.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, but there was always something you could skip.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There was nothing that stopped you from skipping it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I didn't mind it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I like the idea that if they're there and they mock you as you walk away from them because they're too chicken to try and fight them Hmm, but I don't really care either way But they have some radius.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't like chasing through the map.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't chase you at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You are absolutely good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay

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[SPEAKER_04]: They're there for you to talk to to choose whether or not you want to recruit them, fight them or take an item from them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The benefit of doing at least something with them meant that the next time you encountered a mercenary, you sort of earn some renown as to whether or not you're somebody to be.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Trifled with or not, and the stuff that they would have would get better as your renown, go better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: under what they'll choose because they're trying to work on focus drops and how like certain bosses do or don't drop certain uniques and chase items and you couple that with div cards and they've always had this balance that sometimes they change it sometimes they don't of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: how focused or generic they want certain drops to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this would obviously create quite the shift for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they were to have certain uniques that dropped from it, or things like that, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Especially if there are any specific uniques that dropped from it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe from the bosses that were related to the league, but not from the individual mercenaries though.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There were their skills.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, their skills.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I never found that you'd like any of their skills that they dropped anyway, so, but they did have sort of, yeah, just unique.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, POE, one has that whole concept of the alternative versions of the skills, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: So these guys should sort of play it off of that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm curious to see what you think of it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This will be your first time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Jumping into it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure it'll be great.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Hang in the hard core.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for the first time getting back into it and forever yeah with my with my zombies not even remembering how support gems work and you got this you got it got it with my zombies so anyway that's cool so if I know in two weeks what it is yeah

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's it for Pewey.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Nothing else.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No announcements.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What were the faces?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, just stuff.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like most of the bug fixes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Were these Pewey two?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They were both Pewey two.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I talked to NAFTAD because I did play the patch.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to try out the patch that they had brought out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember which one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Point one, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And it changed all the end game stuff right at a boss as to every map and right it was the whole change of the outlist of Tower and different it was a big change for end game full it was it was it was a big game our big change I should point out that I've had many many many messages That's you can do the third ascendancy apparently through some version of

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[SPEAKER_04]: the other one and the chaos one.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So that's probably, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Apparently if you do like up to the tenth boss or something, then you get it or you do it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What the thing that confused me though is as I'm progressing after doing my second,

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[SPEAKER_04]: ascendancy towards my third getting towards my third ascendancy, which is going for me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's the trials a second.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm waiting for that drop that will let me do three floors.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I have to do three floors.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There are these chaos trial of chaos.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I can't remember what they're called.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But the items that would drop that have

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[SPEAKER_04]: seven rooms or seven floors, but those don't get you the third ascendancy, but yet they drop between when the second and third sechema ascendancy drops.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've never seen thing for sechema two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just sechema's third stage, but like the third floor is available in the earlier drop level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe

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[SPEAKER_04]: But that second one from completing one floor to completing three floors, they don't drop a two floor one.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The thing that's just weird about the chaos one is you do the first one, which is your second ascendancy where you don't really just do four rooms right and then you're three in the boss.

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[SPEAKER_04]: but they're and then people are telling me that you can do the 10-1 which to get your fourth one requires you to do the 10-1 multiple times to grab all these random chance things to drop and then you go do it again and then you fight the trial master.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's a your fourth sentence in the chaos one.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But people are telling me that you can

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[SPEAKER_04]: God, I've got it all three night.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just don't understand why there's one that is seven rooms for the chaos one if it does nothing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't, to me that's, and I wish I had had a character that had only two ascendancies because I wanted to go in and see, like, does the same one that would give me the four say something different for me as trying to get the third because it did make any sense.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, just so there's clarification, apparently, there's some way to do it with the chaos,

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just don't understand why there's a level 7 one of that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But I did play the expansion, or sorry, the update, it was very cool, very interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't do any trial of Sechema at all, and you only level through Chaos, so you need the ability to go 1, 2, 3.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe, I guess the thing is I've never seen, I've never seen what that seven one says because I've always been to the second ascendancy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If I had not done the first trial and only didn't the first one through the chaos, then you're right, maybe that seven one says, you can do that for the second one, that's actually, that could be what it is, I just,

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like they just don't drop at the same time, but maybe I'm run.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I played the the new update, the new X-Bomb.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I keep trying to say expansion.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not expansion patch.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was, I liked it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was, so you're putting the tablets against.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So people and after that probably already heard me say this much more clearly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So now it's been a little bit since I played it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But you're putting the tablets now against the map and then you run the map into

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[SPEAKER_04]: I did like it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: My problem I ran into is three of the six times I remember telling you that my expedition didn't show up in the map.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Even though I had the tablet and I was running fully, I was running full six mod corrupted tier 15s.

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[SPEAKER_04]: These were just ones that I tried to get to 16.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They didn't get to 16.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I ran them as 15s.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was allowed to put all three tablets in, but I had three of the six that did not spawn an expedition.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I assume that's hopefully just a bug or something that's being figured out that somehow it got mixed or whatever it missed.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The mapping felt good in general, but I think I said to you, and after dark like it's just, I've said this a long, long time ago, but it's just, it makes the one portal part just quite punishing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like if you

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[SPEAKER_04]: If I lose on that boss, especially because there's bosses now every map, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: So you have to kill the boss to get on and allow these bosses our, like, interlude versions of bosses or bosses that you haven't seen.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just ran into combos of bosses quite often, which I've not fought before.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think I said to you, and after that, like, if GG is going to stick with the one portal thing, then they are responsible to clear the screen up so I can understand what's going on because Visual clarity is important in general even just for the sake of meaningful combat, but yeah, my totally agree.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, especially if you're going to punish me with a single portal, like if one portal I died to it was a boss on one of the ones for the towers, it was a double boss and I killed one, but I have no clue how I died once that one that one died and then I thought I was fighting the second, but then I was just dead and I had no understanding of what had happened I couldn't.

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[SPEAKER_04]: See anything I couldn't tell what triggered it you go back to your go back to your base and there's still a portal there And it's like no, you can't use the portal.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I that's just too punishing to me when it's at least an extra one on the fully tiered up 15 rare all the things like I just find it too punishing because then you have to do it again Like for me to progress the Atlas I have to do that spot again.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just oh it

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, man.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just found it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I found it a little bit frustrating.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I did like what they've done.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I hope this is not the permanent plan.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think that they're still experimenting and figuring out what they want to do with the end game.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But I mentioned this in afterdark.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I saw people that had heard it comment and maybe disagree in some degree, but that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like you can disagree with me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just can't figure out the purpose of the Atlas.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like I'm

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[SPEAKER_04]: notch.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't really get why I'm there or why I'm moving in a direction besides I've heard that the further you get away from your main area more stuff supposed to show but like what what do we talking about more more the random unique ones where I can like get it for unique or I can fight a bunch of bosses but I just don't that's the part I'm struggling with I almost would rather see

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[SPEAKER_04]: then to procreate to progress in a direction, hoping that I just don't, the Atlas confuses me a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just don't quite get why I'm in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Trying to think back in the path of Excel one, how much the dialogue that we normally would skip anyway, how much the dialogue actually helped us focus, because obviously we had our quests, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And those quests are on the right side of the screen, whether it's for Maven or whatever else it is, Shaper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we have our quests, and I'm curious how much of the dialogue we actually heard that helped us understand those quests a bit more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because there wasn't a lot of dialogue, but we'd skip it anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In Path of Excel too, there are huge amounts of dialogue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The amount of screens you're skipping in comparison to the first one is huge, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's way more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm curious if now that we're actually skipping more dialogue, because there's so much dialogue,

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[SPEAKER_01]: if maybe we're missing more to the purpose of what's happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you can only have so much text on your quest markers, right, on your quest screen on the side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, the the Path of Excel 2 quest system does seem to allow more space.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, but maybe they're still limited by the amount of text that can arrive there, but because there's so much more dialogue that I'm skipping through NPCs,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe there's something that we're missing because we're actually skipping more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they've added more, we're skipping more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Instead of actually tolerating the tiny bit of dialogue that there was, maybe there was actually something that helped us understand the purpose of it all, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do also think that it's, you need to explain more when the user sees less.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so this 3D environment, the user does see less, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the 2D environment and path, one, the user could see everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Though it wasn't all unlocked here, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, I don't even know if that's relevant, but, you know, sometimes the stuff we don't realize impacts what we know, sometimes that has relevant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if that's the case here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I hear there's there's a lot of people that are just used to the really fine tuned experience of path ones and game system and so some people yeah it's it's a different experience right different end game I yeah I don't

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[SPEAKER_04]: I am obviously more used to the path of XO1 experience.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think my biggest struggle with POE2 is they've just added this whole extra two steps it feels like.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like I'm opening the Atlas, I'm finding the spot, then I'm running the map.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So you're making mapping a little bit more convoluted, take a little bit more time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I want to understand what I'm in the Alice 4, like am I literally just going to try and hope I find these unique spots?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just, I don't know if I like that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not really sure if that's, it just seems like such a weird thing that I'm searching out in this Alice 4.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't totally grasp it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The tablet system works, but they're going to have to figure out something for storage because like there's just so many tablets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The reason, obviously it sucks that there's stuff that they have in the game that there's not a specific tab for, but you don't want to make a tab and then change.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you can't sell it and then get rid of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so if they first make it, sell it and then be stuck with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think they've gone despite the frustration of it for us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they've gone in the correct, the correct path for it, especially because what if what if this point for update gets rid of the entire Atlas system as we know it and changes things quite substantially, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I can't see them doing that, but maybe, yeah, I don't know, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I did enjoy it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I played it for a bit, but I got, I think I did six or seven maps, and then I just got so frustrated with the fact that I'm what's bothered me is just still, it's not like it makes me hate pathivexile, it just makes me no, I don't want to put my time into it right now, because

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[SPEAKER_04]: my amount of time to the game is relatively limited and to have a single portal death system on maps that I want to run because it's harder content.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I like the idea that I'm doing bosses, but to do all of it and then something kills you that you don't know what killed you and then you've just lost it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I

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[SPEAKER_04]: that the whole portal system I I really hope that they reconsider it like I know they did right they have obviously reconsidered it because we originally had no portals and then we went from okay we'll give you some and now it's you know this this tiered system as the difficulty goes down in the in the waste own part but I just think one is to

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[SPEAKER_04]: One, one portal is too punishing when their game is not clear enough for me to understand.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I get it if I die because I didn't have the resistance, if I'm going up against something that's difficult or whatever, if I saw what was going to happen, a telegraphed hit and I stood in the wrong spot.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's fair that I died.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I still don't think it's fair that I lost

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been saying, well, you bring up three actually really good points, but we've been saying since January, if you're going to do a one portal system, you've got a nail visual clarity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no, it, it, it, it, it'd be, like, path of Excel 1 is fine tuned, but it's still a very frustrating experience because especially experienced players, you don't really realize what you're planning around until you take a step back and you try something else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in path of Excel 1,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, there's a lot of theory crafting options, but you're planning around a lot of crap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're planning around what the heck would that damage come from?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you're planning around the possibility of off-screen damage you can't see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're planning around the possibility of not being able to see what's on the ground, so you've got to plan for having this static kind of defense or survivability there, or movement, because you can't see what's on the ground.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have no idea what kind of damage an enemy is doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: whether it's a strike or a spell or if it's half physical, half lightning, like there's nothing there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't tell the difference between crits or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then of course, then there's the convoluted screen where you have to stare at the mini map to see where you're allowed to go because the screen doesn't like, oh shoot, that's a chair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: break or something like I have to go around this chair or oh I thought I could go between those rocks but if I look at the mini map no it's actually one thing like there's a lot of stuff you have to plan around and then once you've figured out all the crap then you can play it and you have to get rid of all that like where you where you're only fighting enemies you're not

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[SPEAKER_01]: you have to get rid of all that crap to do a one portal system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You really do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, it's the exact same game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, you're planning around all this crap because you can't see what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're planning around stuff that you can't tell or you're planning around being expecting to be stuck often.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I was doing a map the other day yesterday and rituals showed up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's in like the most narrowest spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was nowhere for enemies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm just hoping by live.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing what I can, I'm playing the best I can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't even do this with spawn after spawn after spawn after spawn after spawn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, sometimes I lived and those stupid situations and sometimes I didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, as I get used to the game, if I don't want to deal with that, now I'm planning my character around dealing with stupid crap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, the combat isn't meaningful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, one thing, so, I don't know, so there's a few things there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you get into map layouts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I specifically wrote down this map because it is probably the dumbest map that I've ever played in my path of Excel history.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's called Crimson Shores, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a red beach.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, there's all these gray rocks around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's so much crap in the middle of that map.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's just nonstop rocks everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the rocks look like you can walk

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like some stuff looks so small, you should be able to walk right over like it just looks like a digital detail, but No, you have to go around and it's way bigger than what it looks like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the dumbest map like I was not watching my character the entire map Because I had to look at the mini map the entire time because I had no idea where I could or couldn't walk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then because the game has so many underground enemies before it shows up, then it just makes it even more annoying because I'm already trying to avoid the rocks and then these things show up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was actually such a frustrating experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I turned the game on to play and I didn't want to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the game and this isn't this is me problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not necessarily good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, maybe it's a game problem, but it's it's me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not necessarily prison, but I don't like any of the spells and I don't like any of the minions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The shared cooldown thing to me makes minions very boring and I don't actually like any of the spells that they have elemental spells that they have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm kind of forcing myself to play at this point for the sake of the podcast, so I be grudgingly turned it on yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the map that I ended up running, because I'm not familiar with all the layouts yet, the map that I ended up running is Crimson Chores.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, that was the crappiest map ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I turned it all around and there are Crimson Chores.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but what did I do after instead of playpath of Excel?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I turned on age of empires, and I didn't even play it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was in the tech tree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Looking at, oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is just reminding myself, but what this unit costs versus this other SIV's unit cost and this I didn't even play the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would rather be an age of empires tech-tree than play Crimson Shores.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like you said, it's about personal time, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And how much crap are you dealing with versus meaningful combat?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you get into the portal system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In Path of Excel, one, you had six portals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're only doing it based on a solo cell found hard core thing, that's a lot, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Six portals is plenty of chances to get your crap, but obviously hard core, you don't need any portals, but the solo cell found,

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[SPEAKER_01]: right when you're not going back and forth with trading.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Path of Exile 1, they gave you six because of the like they don't want you to be shot away from trading.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where they make their money because you get to see other people's hideouts and mtx and the old school way that you used to work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And hey, just remember when you used to have to let go to somebody's hideout to make a trade.

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[SPEAKER_01]: anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now with path 2, which I love, you don't consume a portal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can still use it, but you don't consume a portal when you're just going back to your hide-out for whatever you feel like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I absolutely love that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we were kind of talking, maybe 3 portals is kind of like a nice balance to the new way of not consuming a portal for the sake of trade or emptying your inventory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it still gives you a few chances, but it also doesn't restrict you or kind of make you scared to push your maps a bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're trying to get the best reward, some players are going to have the personality we're like, well, I'm not going to juice my maps because the game's not controlled enough and I'm going to die a stupid way at least once or twice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I think three portals, I mean, not to discourage GGG from getting more control over the visual clarity, but I think three portals is a nice balance of always giving three portals no matter what the difficulty of your map is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it gives you the nice disparity between, okay, three chances, this is enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, as you learned a balance of your game, as you learn the visual clarity of these skills and these mobs and these bosses, whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, a bit right now, goodness me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I like the idea of the scaling portals.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's a clever idea from them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So that as you get into mapping, you're the least restricted, because you have all the six portals, and I don't mind it dropping down, but for me, at the highest tier of difficulty of map, it should be at least two, at a minimum two, so that I get my one, what the fuck was that?

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[SPEAKER_04]: and then go in with a mindset of going like something happened there I need to be careful but it's not I don't think that that's like making it so that the game is just mindless and you can just do whatever you want because uh it's not and and I don't think it should be but giving me at least one more option or um

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[SPEAKER_04]: opportunity to be like, whoa, I, I'm not really sure what did that, but now I know I need to be a little bit more clear.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We should never be in that situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We should always be sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We should always know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, not maybe as it's happening, but yeah, know what to do the next time you come into a situation, but I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, give me, I just, I would like one more chance because.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The whole idea of a three tablet permap system, which I like because I like that this removes the chasing towers and trying to find overlapping towers.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I still don't totally get the Atlas, but at least like this process of like dumping those towers not making me find this one perfect spot in the Atlas where they overlap perfectly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I love that I can run three tablets per map.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But your menu can take the tablets out if you don't want to tolerate crimson shores.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can save your users for base types.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You actually let.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you can you can move the bullshit.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what just happened there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You can move them around.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You can do it everyone.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But the fact that it's going to let me run three tablets on every map.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think is great.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But that is what's letting me push the difficulty in the map, which I want to do.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But give me at least one shot to be like, whoa, I did not.

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[SPEAKER_04]: realize what that was or oops, I did something wrong.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Whereas right now, it's just like still gay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm starting over and I'm not even like getting the chance to retry that because I'm doing a totally different rule map.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I may have lost out on charges of a tablet that I was really excited to use.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I just for something you didn't have control over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not a lack of planning, just.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just like, oh, I'm dead like your WTF moment that yeah, the classic POE.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think there's less of that in POE too than there was a POE one by a ton.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like it is still for me a better experience in the sense of like those surprise things, but their visual clarity is not that improved.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like a fight is growd a nish meld or whatever, the fire and ice one.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I legitimately could not see almost anything that fight, and that's throwing in two bosses plus my own stuff.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, like we can't deny that they are focusing or have tackled really well in comparison to the first game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, all all these things that we're talking about well with the exception of map layouts, but it's obviously still not there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's still lots needs to be done, but they have come a long ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, like despite the fact that the game's not in a state that's enjoyable for either of us,

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[SPEAKER_01]: nothing but praise for the attitude of the company who's just in content.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, like completely fixing in-game, changing towers, changing this, I think we said this last week, like just their ability to be willing to change something, despite the fact that they've poured in all these resources or ideas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the amount of time you said at a table trying to make this idea work because you think it's going to be permanent and then just being like, okay, you know what, that's not working, let's change this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like to just that attitude of of humility and willingness to make it work, I doesn't even matter if we like the game or not, like that's what you want from editing video game company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So keep it up, GGG.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I can't remember if we said it in the main episode or after our class week, but

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[SPEAKER_04]: But when we're critical or you know talking about just our experiences we play this is just what we're doing We're just chatting about it, but the fact is when they come out with for myself the next POE one league and then the next POE two league I'm playing it like as much as something might bother me right now.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm in like I know I already know I'm gonna be playing so yeah, it's not it's not anything negative about the long term It's just maybe there's some frustrations going on right now

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we totally get that it's early access and some stages of early access are crazy fun compared to others and others introduce other aspects that make it kind of and yeah, and it's a video game you're not it's like I don't think it's I know you're very limited and like how many games you like to play, but the fact is it's a video game they know people are going to pick it up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They're going to play it for a while, then they're going to put it down and wait for the next one to come out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's just been there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's, there's thing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's been like that for however long since POE came out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So when something's not up my alley, I can throw something else on or go to something else.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So that doesn't bother me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I know I'm going to come back and play it later.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yep, for sure, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One thing I would like to request of GGG is GGG, even though I guess not doesn't matter if they're the focus of maps anymore or not, but could rare monsters please follow the same rule as rare chests.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh well you're in topic and bring that up again, but also give us back the skulls.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I want to see where they are on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, just have some yellow skulls.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, yeah, that's what they have before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they have before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like just, and then you have the brown or unique ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing that back, please.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Rare's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.

58:33.106 --> 58:34.588
[SPEAKER_01]: Just, well, rare chests.

58:34.668 --> 58:35.989
[SPEAKER_01]: You're guaranteed a rare drop.

58:36.390 --> 58:36.630
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

58:37.151 --> 58:38.012
[SPEAKER_01]: Do rars not?

58:38.572 --> 58:39.233
[SPEAKER_01]: rare enemies.

58:40.014 --> 58:41.175
[SPEAKER_01]: They like their magic items.

58:41.856 --> 58:42.597
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, do they not get it?

58:42.617 --> 58:43.437
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they don't know.

58:43.497 --> 58:44.218
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not guaranteed.

58:44.258 --> 58:44.659
[SPEAKER_01]: We're dropped.

58:44.759 --> 58:51.006
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and she's like that's I feel like they should I should be more rewarded than clicking on rare chest.

58:51.086 --> 58:51.566
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right.

58:52.067 --> 58:54.870
[SPEAKER_01]: I should be a little bit more rewarded for killing a rare enemy.

58:55.430 --> 58:55.591
[SPEAKER_01]: But

58:56.111 --> 58:56.571
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, interesting.

58:56.631 --> 58:59.192
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that they were, yeah, no, it's good.

58:59.392 --> 59:03.693
[SPEAKER_01]: My build itself, it's just minion instability that I'm sticking with for the most part, and I'm liking it.

59:04.173 --> 59:05.073
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually found it.

59:05.113 --> 59:06.073
[SPEAKER_01]: It's efficient.

59:06.573 --> 59:07.694
[SPEAKER_01]: It's easy to go through.

59:07.734 --> 59:08.714
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not hating it.

59:08.754 --> 59:09.694
[SPEAKER_01]: I just find it boring.

59:09.754 --> 59:11.234
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know what it is.

59:11.334 --> 59:14.735
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the thing that I'm missing is spiritual aid.

59:15.295 --> 59:21.737
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's, I kind of like, like, I want to have my summon Reaper next to me, and I want to be doing damage with my Reaper.

59:21.757 --> 59:22.257
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to go like,

59:23.037 --> 59:25.458
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, me and my buddy are running into combat together.

59:25.738 --> 59:27.058
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't give me a tiger or something.

59:27.078 --> 59:31.940
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, something that I can run into combat with, my little bud and hack it stuff.

59:31.960 --> 59:36.082
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I wanna do some damage, too, but I want my minion to be there with me.

59:36.142 --> 59:37.582
[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of what I liked with zombies.

59:37.622 --> 59:39.183
[SPEAKER_01]: You throw on meat shield and path one.

59:39.543 --> 59:46.265
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're right there with you and you're smashing down, consecrated path or whatever it is, even though that would make me six when I never do it, but that's what I was dreamed of doing.

59:46.805 --> 59:48.286
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I liked that stuff, then.

59:49.586 --> 59:54.050
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they'll never add spiritual aid because that's kind of what command skills are instead.

59:54.130 --> 01:00:00.455
[SPEAKER_01]: The game doesn't tell you, but I think I recently learned that command skills use the minion damage tag.

01:00:01.155 --> 01:00:03.277
[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't need your own, like it's not your own spell.

01:00:03.317 --> 01:00:04.598
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a minion, you know what I mean?

01:00:04.658 --> 01:00:10.363
[SPEAKER_01]: It's technically doing the damage, but it's one of those things where it's like, they don't explain that step.

01:00:11.283 --> 01:00:13.105
[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't realize that's what you're investing in.

01:00:14.716 --> 01:00:18.298
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and I guess that there's still the, no, that's good, that's for another time.

01:00:18.338 --> 01:00:26.902
[SPEAKER_01]: But, so that's kind of what I'm, like a really hope like the next patch comes out with some more like some, a good like single minion.

01:00:27.522 --> 01:00:27.943
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:00:27.963 --> 01:00:29.884
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean like a love that reaper bit.

01:00:30.344 --> 01:00:31.745
[SPEAKER_01]: And because that's a year and people that'll be true.

01:00:32.785 --> 01:00:38.089
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but that's because vectors are still stupid, there's no in-game information about these minions.

01:00:38.749 --> 01:00:43.712
[SPEAKER_01]: There's not even the information you need on the other minions, like the other minions don't have their default skills showing for what it is.

01:00:44.333 --> 01:00:54.659
[SPEAKER_01]: When you're in the support screen, it'll tell you, oh, this works with this minion or this minion, but it doesn't tell you if it's working for the command skill or the default skill or the secondary skill that they use.

01:00:54.699 --> 01:00:55.360
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still

01:01:01.207 --> 01:01:05.913
[SPEAKER_01]: I, when I go to a specter, I'm like, oh, well, I would like to use a specter, but I don't know what it skills are.

01:01:05.993 --> 01:01:06.934
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it's health is.

01:01:06.954 --> 01:01:07.895
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it's resist.

01:01:08.016 --> 01:01:09.037
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know anything.

01:01:09.598 --> 01:01:11.660
[SPEAKER_01]: What, if do I want to use minion stability with this?

01:01:13.099 --> 01:01:14.219
[SPEAKER_01]: Spectre or this Spectre?

01:01:14.259 --> 01:01:15.340
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know which one has more health.

01:01:16.620 --> 01:01:16.840
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

01:01:17.101 --> 01:01:24.003
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah So like Spectres would be nice, but they are only half-finished Spectres.

01:01:24.663 --> 01:01:33.947
[SPEAKER_04]: I was gonna say one thing with regards to the loot though I did feel that I don't know if there was something change, but I did feel that 0.3 this patch this update

01:01:34.447 --> 01:01:37.008
[SPEAKER_04]: Like the main one, my looting experience was better.

01:01:37.068 --> 01:01:39.488
[SPEAKER_04]: I felt like I was getting more stuff off the ground.

01:01:39.508 --> 01:01:42.329
[SPEAKER_04]: I felt like I could do more with essences, with crafting.

01:01:42.429 --> 01:01:46.890
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't understand all of them like three transmutes is weird to me.

01:01:47.510 --> 01:01:50.911
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't actually totally grasp what benefit I'm getting.

01:01:51.191 --> 01:01:57.093
[SPEAKER_04]: Somebody actually posted, we were talking about the alchemy's, the Orbs of Alchemy's, I think last time we sold her two episodes going.

01:01:57.113 --> 01:02:00.414
[SPEAKER_04]: I was reading the comment that was talking about how that used alchemy's.

01:02:00.454 --> 01:02:00.934
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, what?

01:02:02.954 --> 01:02:04.155
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't understand it.

01:02:04.255 --> 01:02:05.115
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't understand it.

01:02:05.635 --> 01:02:07.476
[SPEAKER_04]: They've basically added a scouring orb.

01:02:08.017 --> 01:02:08.417
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess.

01:02:09.037 --> 01:02:09.377
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:02:09.437 --> 01:02:11.438
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to let it in.

01:02:12.058 --> 01:02:12.278
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:02:12.358 --> 01:02:13.759
[SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly it.

01:02:13.799 --> 01:02:17.321
[SPEAKER_01]: So they went from not wanting to reset their items.

01:02:17.941 --> 01:02:18.421
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, okay.

01:02:18.441 --> 01:02:19.922
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're going to, here's your draw.

01:02:20.522 --> 01:02:20.762
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:02:21.302 --> 01:02:22.503
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're going to add this mod.

01:02:22.663 --> 01:02:23.443
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, shoot it didn't work.

01:02:23.563 --> 01:02:23.863
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:02:24.123 --> 01:02:28.065
[SPEAKER_01]: Jumping into the next white or you get then you add on to it.

01:02:28.385 --> 01:02:38.248
[SPEAKER_01]: But now that they've made this change, Alex basically are just removing a one step process or two step process of how you normally scour.

01:02:38.268 --> 01:02:41.709
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you would transmute and then you would alcohol,

01:02:47.771 --> 01:02:50.793
[SPEAKER_04]: You would just still like so that there's no true scour.

01:02:50.833 --> 01:02:52.815
[SPEAKER_04]: There is no restart over on the item.

01:02:53.315 --> 01:03:03.562
[SPEAKER_04]: So what they were explaining where they transmute it, they augment it, hope they get two rules that they want, and then if they're not, the two that they want, then they'll throw an outcome.

01:03:03.622 --> 01:03:06.444
[SPEAKER_04]: Because that just scours an elixir, they get a foremod and you hope.

01:03:06.864 --> 01:03:10.687
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they just wish that they finally path of XL1's Chaos Orb.

01:03:11.367 --> 01:03:13.228
[SPEAKER_01]: but guaranteeing only four slots.

01:03:13.808 --> 01:03:14.048
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

01:03:14.068 --> 01:03:19.491
[SPEAKER_04]: Why do like so that no matter what, those parabutes can never ever be set back to zero.

01:03:19.571 --> 01:03:22.872
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you didn't, you know, if you decided to work it, that's it.

01:03:22.993 --> 01:03:25.474
[SPEAKER_04]: Like if you didn't hit it, you got to move on to finding some more boots.

01:03:25.554 --> 01:03:25.994
[SPEAKER_04]: I like that.

01:03:26.034 --> 01:03:33.417
[SPEAKER_04]: I like that I'm not finding a base type and then just going over and over and over as long as the loot is making that work fine.

01:03:33.457 --> 01:03:33.938
[SPEAKER_04]: I like that.

01:03:34.018 --> 01:03:34.138
[SPEAKER_04]: So.

01:03:34.738 --> 01:03:40.222
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's interesting because I'm curious now that items can technically still though get reset.

01:03:40.462 --> 01:03:42.464
[SPEAKER_01]: You're just skipping a bunch of those processes.

01:03:42.544 --> 01:03:43.745
[SPEAKER_04]: How can it be reset?

01:03:44.205 --> 01:03:45.026
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's what the elk does.

01:03:45.286 --> 01:03:46.207
[SPEAKER_04]: The elk doesn't though.

01:03:46.247 --> 01:03:47.808
[SPEAKER_04]: The elk sets it to four.

01:03:48.208 --> 01:03:51.711
[SPEAKER_04]: So it takes a magic item and just gives it four random.

01:03:53.873 --> 01:03:55.454
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but it doesn't do it again.

01:03:55.494 --> 01:03:57.436
[SPEAKER_01]: If it's already rare, you can't use it on a rare.

01:03:57.456 --> 01:03:57.736
[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.

01:03:57.776 --> 01:03:58.696
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't use it on a rare.

01:03:58.737 --> 01:03:59.837
[SPEAKER_01]: You can only run a magic.

01:03:59.857 --> 01:03:59.977
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:04:04.941 --> 01:04:09.023
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, you didn't hit the two that you're open for, maybe you're not worth the regal or something.

01:04:09.063 --> 01:04:15.306
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know like I haven't played enough with the crafting since they added like 700 tiers of every single version.

01:04:15.326 --> 01:04:16.867
[SPEAKER_04]: But you know what those do, right?

01:04:17.387 --> 01:04:20.709
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I know that they're supposed to have like a higher tier.

01:04:21.169 --> 01:04:23.670
[SPEAKER_04]: They do they remove them.

01:04:24.231 --> 01:04:26.292
[SPEAKER_04]: Do they actually remove them or decrease their chance?

01:04:26.957 --> 01:04:30.141
[SPEAKER_01]: they, it basically like cuts out the lower versions of them.

01:04:30.161 --> 01:04:33.925
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can't, it's not even like it's just a little bit as you just cannot.

01:04:34.205 --> 01:04:35.046
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, interesting.

01:04:35.066 --> 01:04:37.308
[SPEAKER_04]: I can see that's 23 life.

01:04:37.869 --> 01:04:43.075
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I like that idea, especially for an SSF, like from an SSF perspective, like I like that idea.

01:04:43.155 --> 01:04:46.018
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it would be a little bit odd because you'd have to mess around with your,

01:04:47.059 --> 01:04:53.144
[SPEAKER_04]: with your, uh, my God, thank Furman at loot filter because you wouldn't want to be cutting out.

01:04:53.184 --> 01:05:00.869
[SPEAKER_04]: If I'm an SSF and I'm trying to work on a particular base, I need to make sure I can see those white bases because that's what I want to start with.

01:05:00.950 --> 01:05:07.915
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to start with either a high tier level that dropped or I want to find one that's just a high item level and start with the high level transmute.

01:05:08.415 --> 01:05:08.595
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:05:08.835 --> 01:05:11.898
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I hope this is the direction that they go.

01:05:11.978 --> 01:05:13.639
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to hide rareties.

01:05:13.719 --> 01:05:16.281
[SPEAKER_01]: Like in the first game, you hid rareties.

01:05:16.321 --> 01:05:22.166
[SPEAKER_01]: But that was how they forced you to go away from that in this game because they don't have that scouring option.

01:05:22.686 --> 01:05:22.886
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

01:05:22.946 --> 01:05:25.408
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to start from scratch, you need to show them.

01:05:25.829 --> 01:05:28.150
[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully they have their drop rates down pat.

01:05:28.210 --> 01:05:31.293
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, obviously they'll keep getting modified as the game progresses because

01:05:35.576 --> 01:05:41.761
[SPEAKER_01]: but it'll be nice if the filter only filters out base types and not rarity.

01:05:41.942 --> 01:05:54.812
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously like filters are personal and however your experience goes and as you'd progress through the game, you know, people have their own ways of doing things, but it would be nice if by default it was valuable to show all rarities.

01:05:55.493 --> 01:06:17.539
[SPEAKER_04]: Hmm, I still think I know people have argued with us before and told me specifically that I'm wrong, but I think that this would have been the perfect time to introduce a last epoch style of loop filter when they first came out with the game as they're adding more items into the game because then you're not doing it from scratch or you've already taught them all you're doing at the beginning where you're slowly starting to build them up as you go.

01:06:18.660 --> 01:06:27.690
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, one of the things I've criticized GGG for is they don't have 10 years experience in dealing with loot.

01:06:28.110 --> 01:06:31.875
[SPEAKER_01]: They have 10 years of like ignoring loot in my opinion, right?

01:06:31.935 --> 01:06:37.681
[SPEAKER_01]: So now they're just starting their experience level in dealing with in managing loot.

01:06:38.382 --> 01:06:48.748
[SPEAKER_01]: and taking the responsibility on themselves is my point and you run into the exact same situation when it comes about caring about filters, right?

01:06:48.788 --> 01:06:54.752
[SPEAKER_01]: Like even now, if you want to make your own filter on the Path of Excel website, it is, it's a full-time job.

01:06:56.953 --> 01:06:58.194
[SPEAKER_01]: created from scratch there.

01:06:58.614 --> 01:06:58.815
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:06:59.295 --> 01:07:05.200
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's not accessible when you're making a game when you have the mentality that you're doing.

01:07:06.160 --> 01:07:11.284
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, like you and I have gotten in many conversations about whether it's worthwhile for GGG to do it.

01:07:11.404 --> 01:07:12.425
[SPEAKER_01]: I've always been on one side.

01:07:12.445 --> 01:07:13.406
[SPEAKER_01]: You've been on the other side.

01:07:13.926 --> 01:07:16.408
[SPEAKER_01]: When someone's already willing to do it for you, why care?

01:07:16.609 --> 01:07:16.789
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:07:17.529 --> 01:07:18.850
[SPEAKER_01]: And we've been on opposite sides of that.

01:07:18.890 --> 01:07:22.733
[SPEAKER_01]: But now the whole reason they're putting all these millions of dollars into a

01:07:23.854 --> 01:07:29.919
[SPEAKER_01]: is to reach more people and make the game more accessible and the more third-party stuff you need, the less accessible it is.

01:07:30.619 --> 01:07:32.321
[SPEAKER_01]: And people are playing this game for loot.

01:07:32.661 --> 01:07:38.746
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's, I don't think that's one thing when you've poured these amount of resources into the game.

01:07:39.266 --> 01:07:45.210
[SPEAKER_01]: When you're making a loot first game, you can't let the loot be the thing that you pass on to someone else.

01:07:45.891 --> 01:07:47.252
[SPEAKER_01]: Not saying they are, not saying they're not.

01:07:47.372 --> 01:07:48.873
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, that's my opinion.

01:07:48.893 --> 01:07:49.454
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think,

01:07:54.188 --> 01:08:18.594
[SPEAKER_01]: think that last epoch style filter would be good or at least just have extremely generic ones, but let you like, hey, I'm energy shield only or like a small checkbox of these are just the basic subclasses like energy shield or armor energy shield I'm willing to have or whatever it is, like allow only show these and don't show these like, hey, I'm not doing a bow character,

01:08:21.295 --> 01:08:27.016
[SPEAKER_01]: I only want to see bows that have sockets on them or whatever it is, you know what I mean?

01:08:27.036 --> 01:08:30.477
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, obviously, the more you talk about it, the deeper it can get.

01:08:31.037 --> 01:08:37.079
[SPEAKER_01]: But even if you just had a simplified version where it couldn't be crazy because items still don't drop identified.

01:08:37.099 --> 01:08:38.759
[SPEAKER_01]: I completely agree with you.

01:08:38.779 --> 01:08:39.839
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is the time to do it.

01:08:40.500 --> 01:08:44.181
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the time to be like, nope, it's not going to work, or yes it is.

01:08:44.381 --> 01:08:44.801
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:08:44.841 --> 01:08:45.821
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to do it before release.

01:08:50.442 --> 01:08:52.083
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, this is not gonna ever happen.

01:08:52.524 --> 01:09:02.572
[SPEAKER_04]: I just think it would have been a good time to do it if they were going to do it And I'm sure that that had been a thought, but I just when I when I'm thinking about like I don't know, I really like the last the fuck one.

01:09:03.693 --> 01:09:04.393
[SPEAKER_01]: It is amazing.

01:09:05.154 --> 01:09:08.016
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think would be GGG's reason?

01:09:08.276 --> 01:09:16.303
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if they had had this discussion and we assumed they have, there's no way BlastyPock comes out all this time ago with a wrong filter and they haven't had this conversation a few times.

01:09:16.963 --> 01:09:18.305
[SPEAKER_01]: Now that you're making this new game

01:09:18.985 --> 01:09:20.747
[SPEAKER_01]: and you're trying to control your loot system.

01:09:21.187 --> 01:09:26.312
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think the reasons would be for them to say no, we're not going to do it outside of resources, outside of resources.

01:09:26.412 --> 01:09:30.055
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that is that I don't think there is an outside of resources conversation to it.

01:09:30.215 --> 01:09:37.602
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it is just strictly how much time it takes up, how much time and money, much manpower would need to go behind, create in a maintaining it, making sure that

01:09:38.122 --> 01:09:45.145
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, as you're developing the game, you're also considering the fact that these changes need to be added and edited in the loop filter.

01:09:45.465 --> 01:09:53.128
[SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, the fact is, as much as I'm saying that I'd love to see them do one, it is very, very easy to do it in the filter blade.

01:09:53.329 --> 01:09:55.029
[SPEAKER_04]: It's very easy to edit on the fly.

01:09:55.129 --> 01:09:58.131
[SPEAKER_04]: I just I love the idea of being in the game and doing it.

01:09:58.491 --> 01:10:03.233
[SPEAKER_04]: I love how easy it was for me to look at somebody else's loop filter and just bring it into my game.

01:10:06.414 --> 01:10:11.820
[SPEAKER_04]: accessible, the loot filter felt in last epoch, but I think in the end it will always come down to resources.

01:10:12.470 --> 01:10:21.015
[SPEAKER_01]: But isn't some resources almost mandatory, like if I want to make a car for the masses.

01:10:21.755 --> 01:10:27.619
[SPEAKER_01]: And I put all of my energy and resources into the specs and how fast it can go in the engine functionality.

01:10:27.659 --> 01:10:31.261
[SPEAKER_01]: But then I don't put my resources into car seats for people to sit on.

01:10:31.281 --> 01:10:34.603
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but you would buy those things from the people who make it better than you.

01:10:34.623 --> 01:10:36.544
[SPEAKER_04]: That I think that's what it will always come down to.

01:10:37.448 --> 01:10:43.311
[SPEAKER_01]: but in this case, they're telling the user to go buy it from a company, some out of the company.

01:10:43.791 --> 01:10:44.892
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what they're talking about.

01:10:44.912 --> 01:10:47.493
[SPEAKER_04]: So they're not coming up with, because they may not think that.

01:10:47.873 --> 01:10:51.075
[SPEAKER_04]: They may think you can play it without the filter, if you wanted to.

01:10:51.175 --> 01:10:56.498
[SPEAKER_04]: I've heard some people that play it with the default filter POE2 and have been fine.

01:10:56.558 --> 01:10:58.899
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not sure how that works in end game for them.

01:10:58.999 --> 01:11:03.842
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that you could certainly go through the campaign without a filter on and be fine.

01:11:04.582 --> 01:11:06.283
[SPEAKER_04]: But like with just their default one.

01:11:06.883 --> 01:11:12.807
[SPEAKER_04]: So maybe they think this is what we want the loop to look like, but we know that people like it differently.

01:11:12.847 --> 01:11:14.808
[SPEAKER_04]: And so here's their option is filter blade.

01:11:15.168 --> 01:11:16.609
[SPEAKER_04]: I I don't really know.

01:11:16.649 --> 01:11:18.871
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not sure what they're feeling is on.

01:11:19.131 --> 01:11:25.355
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I guess for me, I don't hide anything with the filter that I made.

01:11:25.615 --> 01:11:27.576
[SPEAKER_01]: I've just changed sizes and sounds.

01:11:29.257 --> 01:11:30.498
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess you bring up a good point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess the cheapest option is let's make our default filter satisfactory and then you don't have to worry about the rest.

01:11:39.472 --> 01:11:41.456
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that's not going to be the case, but maybe it will be.

01:11:42.207 --> 01:11:43.328
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see.

01:11:43.908 --> 01:11:46.490
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess we will, but it won't be at 327 when we see it.

01:11:47.050 --> 01:11:48.551
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be playing 327 when it comes out.

01:11:49.071 --> 01:11:49.271
[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.

01:11:49.412 --> 01:11:53.314
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be playing the private league and then you can tell me what you think about 327 a couple weeks later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Build you.

01:11:54.575 --> 01:12:01.039
[SPEAKER_04]: We got a private league that's coming up so good luck to everybody who's starting that tomorrow with us and uh, that's what it says.

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[SPEAKER_04]: 314 forever except I'm just naked eggs and I'm Tyler record of days.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Patrons will see you in after dark everybody else will see next week in 315.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If you play in the privately you have a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're happy Thanksgiving.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nadine thanksgiving.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're extra thankful.