The First Week of The Third Edict

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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to Forever XL, I'm just an A.K.A.

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[SPEAKER_03]: tags.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm Tyler, record of days.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I actually, where are we not doing the 10 seconds anymore?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Did you come up with some fancy pants?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that didn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need the 10 seconds anymore, except that for some reason, sometimes the road after 10 seconds is like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then just has messed up the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we start in 10 seconds and it stops.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now I just do it at a safety.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So okay, so that's that's thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, it's not really I don't need to sound floor anymore because things are awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But things are awesome, especially all your GB's and things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've been trying to make this podcast for like a year now or seriously.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So stupid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And listen, if anybody can tell me discord, I can't hit the stay on top button.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anytime I hit stay on top, it goes right to the back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it never comes up again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So stupid, mother, haven't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, episode 309.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Until we are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How was your week time?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, I closed Trello.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, and I'm loading pod page instead.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's wrong one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Trello?

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[SPEAKER_03]: How was your week?

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[SPEAKER_03]: But... Shut up, I don't know how my week went until I bring up my notes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you didn't know how to say your week was, okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I did.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Dick.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, actually, no, I had a crazy week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so okay, well, no, like this is going to be the whole podcast, but this is like week one of the league launch for path to so yeah I got to try and keep this quick but big things happen just in big things so tell me about it think about this Justin and I don't know I know nobody else is going to get this except for our friends family that are listening which are like 99% of our listeners, but

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[SPEAKER_03]: my mom and sister came over with the intention of watching and we did watch the entirety of dumb and dumb.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, how'd that go?

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[SPEAKER_03]: My mom laughed all the time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I knew your mom would laugh.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And like I, I prepped her the best that anybody could prep somebody, but like I'm like listen, like it's a dumb show, like it's meant to be stupid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's all about stupid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the show is dumb and dumber.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is my background bothering you?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's bothering me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm changing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't look at where you're supposed to look at me, Ty?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Look at me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I am looking at you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and you're back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking at you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, well, no, but it's like, you know, like, it'll squiggly you're anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not good Korean screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How come you guys don't have a green screen yet, honestly?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they don't need them anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Put that on the list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't add things to my wife's broadcast list, okay?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Do not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, say number.

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[SPEAKER_03]: My, so I prep my mom like it's it's dumb movie obviously the title and all that kind of stuff, but you never know it to expect not enough She's ever seen like a comedy for the sake of a comedy that doesn't something with carry grant Okay, or like Dick Van Dyke, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the Carol Burnett show is her version of comedy So to see something like a dumb and dumber would be it's totally different scale

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like I had to prepare her like listen it's stupid, but like there are a thousand one liners that you will use for the rest of your life in this movie, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: But understand that the whole movie and its premise are stupid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But we were showing my kids the movie at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I did not know that there were two versions of this movie.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: apparently had only ever seen the TV version of this movie.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So because my kids are watching with us in because like my mom doesn't even know there was a TV version of it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: These are tonight.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So like in my mom, like I'm just gonna like fast forward, like the, uh, well, I was planning on fast forwarding the balance of the light and the bathroom scene.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so the bathroom seemed to see best, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was just going to fast-forward for everybody's sake, like, by all the end of the kids, but then I was going to fast-forward the potential sex scene with Jim Carrey and his love interest in the dream sequence.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Not much of a scene, but yes, I know you know, but yeah, I know, but for me with me, it's not, well, it's just like the idea of undressing or somebody is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: what I don't need my kids to see it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're ten and a half.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So like I don't like skip the fact that it's like the nipples.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I skip the fact that it's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What are you doing for somebody?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, anyway, like those are the two scenes I'm expecting to skip my wife, unfortunately, but you know, whatever you always.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She agrees me, I agree with her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She skipped the heart punching scene where he grabs it out and puts it in a lunch bed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I really want it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think I might still show my kids that when she's at work at some point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, don't pull the dunes, though.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, pretty awesome.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But there's like an extra 15, 20 minutes that I had never seen in my life.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In the TV version?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So never seen the bite on YouTube, just for 15 bucks, because one of our classic favorite movies of all time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But Craven ended up having it on the star's package.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I load up Craven, we're playing it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's the, I don't know, whatever version that existed before it went on TV, but I mean, I never even watched it on TV.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I always just got it from VHS, when it was VHS or whatever, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know where this version came from, but there's like 15 extra minutes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So like, you know when they're in the heart, heart, heart, heart, heart, shaped, hot, tub.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's like people having sex in a room next door.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's barely a thing in the movie that I've seen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And in this version, there's like two minutes of Jim Carrey listening on the wall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's normal.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Go get her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go get her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Go get her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's in the no one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a long time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It is a long there's but there's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, then you've seen different versions and I have because there was so like there was literally like That thing may be uncomfortable watching it with Logan.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I had to like fast forward like 10 minutes worth of stuff not just two sections.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I move it along

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, but anyway, that happened, but I was also embarrassed because now I'm showing a show to my kids in front of my mom that is less vetted than I thought was vetted So now I'm like, oh, I mean, it wasn't like that would be so it was but some weird stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm thinking like because my mom's my mom still lives something like, oh

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, she thinks I'm an erasist.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure what you're talking about.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But she's just laughing for fun, just to avoid the subject.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But anyway, that was really funny.

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[SPEAKER_03]: My mom actually quite enjoyed laughing at the movie.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm looking forward to the next time I see her because then those things will have settled in and maybe we can joke about some of the one layers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that was cool.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, my wife messaged you about a movie.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: K-pop demon hunters?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the best.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Told you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the best.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed it, but it definitely wasn't a great movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're at your mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the message I got was just how awesome it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't, obviously.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My wife would say that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The movie was like very unique.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I liked some of the characters.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was cool.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The music?

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The music.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not my style of music, but whatever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to be kind of like, I'm like those characters that like are moving their shoulders.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Even though they don't mean to because the music's catchy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, because you have a hard time with fun, I know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not fun, just happiness, okay, you got me, you got me, not just on my style, but it's fun, like, I like rap, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's like really my primary thing and some of the rap was cool, but other than that it was catchy, but not.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Did you guys like it on my playlist?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, kids loved it, but they'd already seen it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So they were showing it to us and my wife and I hadn't seen it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, it was just one of those things where it's like, I've seen that movie a thousand times.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the story itself.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, oh, it's nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the story itself is like, oh, I like, got like a secret, but like, I can't like tell people that are important to talk about that in the movie.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, of course not until like the like the 90-minute mark and then it's like oh, and then I have like an emotional breakdown But then it's like that's what like saves like the story and stuff So that was kind of the story button.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I loved the characters and I love so it was probably like the story was crap

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I loved how you need everything else was about the story.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I'm writing a book for myself and I understand like you have this really cool idea and this story and this premise and you have the what was it called like the Boonswan or whatever it was.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, yeah, of course you would know obviously like how many times now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have all the dance moves down?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could dance it like you wouldn't believe.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I just love the idea, I don't know how traditional or not or just creative this idea is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like we were born there, but you have these cool ideas, so then you're just like, oh, well, we can just throw K pop in that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we can just throw competitions in that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I love the creativity.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I love to have the characters.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately, the stepmother was the most idiotic of them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that was a story that you're finding.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so that's disappointing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I get the idea of you have this amazing idea and concept.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So how do you what story do you follow to bring this concept to life?

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so obviously, to me, the story was stupid, but some of the characters were great and the morals, of course, were fantastic, so it was overall was good, but I'm not a story was fine, just fine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know you do, I know you do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I saw it, finally, just good, I'm glad you did.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't hate it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it doesn't tell you that my brother texted me a few days after we had all their kids over we had all the nephews and nieces stay over with us when my sister was down one night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so they wanted to watch that K-pop one, which was it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm using on its own because I had to call.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Both of my siblings to make sure that they were all right with me showing this movie to their kids because their kids were scared They were gonna get in trouble if they watched it because their parents didn't think they were allowed to and I was like Oh, like demons and stuff because it's demons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to be like, oh, I'll pray for you

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so they, uh, they all wash it, but then I think like three days later, I got a brand of message from my brother and he just all the message said was confirmed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hate you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I just send him back a question mark because I was trying to think, like, what happened?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't sleep in your wife.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why can't I go and go and go and happen?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, that, uh, that playlist has been on repeat since they left your house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're welcome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't eat it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're dancing and singing away.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's funny because my kids have not no joke.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the next video game they day they have together the playing path of Excel too together.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And almost all the time in the bathroom we have Google home in the bathroom and they have their playlists and they say they're song and hey dad could you put this on repeat for me?

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's Path of Excel 2 music.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like whatever boss they're in the mood for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sorry, Camille and Camille Jr.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But now it's Path of Excel 2 and or like it's a 50-50.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Funny enough, so okay, so like not my favorite movie, not a great movie, not a bad movie, but the name was stupid before I saw the movie.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And now it's a great title after I've seen it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you did call it that for sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You did call me on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I should have taken a K-pop in my opinion because that was one thing that I think turned people off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It does fit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like old people like us are like K-pop.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, exactly except the fact that who has anything negative to say about the movie except for me?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Nobody.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean, big risk?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Big reward.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's one huge for them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, okay, hang on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know people were at like the 12 or whatever been in Mark just hanging there, how it's com your tits.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'd like to say that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know you and I say that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Go for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Say whatever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a K-pop, you're a

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[SPEAKER_03]: What?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You said that S. Oh.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I did two of them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're ridiculously cute.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We either ten weeks old right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When did you get those?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, this week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, cool.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like we were, you know, we were always going to be a kitten family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're a kitten.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I do too, but I could live without them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sure, but who couldn't?

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[SPEAKER_03]: My kids have never been, like, this kind of that awkward, like, cats are like 15 to 20 years.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I can't believe it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sure, like you might want to have a lot, but, like, have you ever been to a house with three cats, and it didn't smell like they had three cats?

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a lot of work to make it smell like you don't have any cats.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, because we get like the whole like bonding and like relationships stuff, like two cats, like we like having two cats instead of one, we've only had two cats.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We had Ellie in her whole while ago, and they both last one died over a year ago, under a year ago, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, humming and hog and looking and prepping the kids, you know, like, you know, they're going to be totally different personalities and all cats are the same and like they might not cuddle with you, they might hate you, they might smash all your Lego whatever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So we're like trying to prep them in all this kind of stuff and then so end of the year, we were actually trying to get cats at the beginning of summer so the kids would have like the summer to get used to cats.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But because we're expecting our dog to die, it like February or February, but she's still hanging on, like not in the torture state.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's actually in good health.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We just didn't expect the good health to last.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, she's day by day for us.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And she's been squeaking it out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, it got to the point where like school starting is like, okay, well, let's get this new cat business out of the way, but also let's make sure that we're picking cats.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We want, we're just not picking cats with the sake of picking cats.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oliver and Aaron my wife were looking at cats that like on I don't know if I should say the company name because I don't know how local they were looking at we were looking at cats on a specific website and Oliver really like these two cats and some like kittens like they disappear right it's a kitten's are kittens right they're the most cutest thing on the planet oh like somehow

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how long they were on the site for.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they're obviously only weeks old, but Oliver really wanted these two cats.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're like, okay, well, we're only looking whatever in these 10 years old.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So he's kind of still grasping the difference between wanting and getting two weeks later.

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[SPEAKER_03]: These two ridiculously cute bonded pair sibling kittens.

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[SPEAKER_03]: are still available.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And just by complete chance, that's where we go and look at kittens and ones like it just pure white nor just normal orange, domestic sure hair.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then you know, once a tabby, sure hair tabby, they're both still there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The only two siblings left out of this litter

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[SPEAKER_03]: We almost came home with three cats, but we came home with two, and we spent like, this whole week, figuring out names, because my daughter wanted some names.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, I wanted some names.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm nicking my opinions, but I like things that match and make sense and coincide.

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[SPEAKER_03]: My son wanted some names, my wife wanted some names, and honestly, we almost like all four of us almost left and started our own families.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Do they have names yet, or are they still okay?

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[SPEAKER_03]: They do, yes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So if anybody's seen the sword in the stone, we have Archimedes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know, the best, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So basically, Archie, but Archimedes, and Madame Mim.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So Mimzi, and they are the cutest frickin' things on the planet.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But here's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And, oh my goodness, what time are we at?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I gotta bring up our Dasty for a second.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we're at the 20 minute.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, hey, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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[SPEAKER_03]: That was a polydactyl that had so many toes that our vet was taking pictures because it was so rare and unique and so perfectly symmetrical to toes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, I know that's for like the three cat listeners that exist up there that are listening, but like we had some very unique and cool cast, but we only wanted the one, but like know you have to take to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We don't care.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We only have the money for one, we're newly married at that point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and like we were going to get divorced but then we're like now let's get a cat and try and fix our life and so that's a joke by the way for those that actually care and we only wanted one which was Ellie but then they forced us to get a second one but we said we're not paying for it and they finally agreed because they wanted them to be bonded for those that are familiar with the adoption process.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And for the rest of their life, they hated each other.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I legit think that they just had so many cats, they just pretended certain cats were bonded, and they grew up together, whether they were siblings or not, because those two cats, Ellie and Earl that we had for years, obviously over a decade, they wouldn't even be in the same room as each other.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They couldn't cuddle like one couldn't cuddle on my left and one couldn't cuddle on my right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If one was outside, the other was in the living room.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The second one would want to go out, the other one would come in.

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[SPEAKER_03]: like they were like fairies, like you know us with Vancouver Island.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They were like fairies passing each other.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They would never be on the same island at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: These two cats, they cannot be without each other.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They are intertwined like grouping snakes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're just like constantly cuddling, fighting, like play fighting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just the most ridiculous, the cute thing I've ever had.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that was my week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm glad you got it, kittens.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I watched dumb and bummer and I slightly moved my shoulders to some k-pop.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you did.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know you did.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I did.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I even, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a cryer, so that's not really a compliment to a movie, but it was a good story despite the fact that it was a bad story.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like it was a great story.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If you're going to insist on doing a bad story and writing it in 30 minutes, it's one of the best ones I've ever seen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was a great story.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Just, did you have a week?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you doing that just so that we don't take 20 minutes of personal life?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's kind of what it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I spent my week drugged with my back and worked finish the wire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm all done the wire now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yep, yep, yep, yep, we wrap that up and yeah, that's pretty much it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Getting back in the schedule, kids are back to school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So getting back into school schedules, dance schedules, all that fun stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was it though, just a normal week, man, but the kids are back at school, so that was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Isn't that, yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, out of all the important things to happen, Malat, that's kind of a big deal to do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, the first time really high.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I think I've had that before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we've had that at one point with the when Ethan was in high school, but yeah, we had them all different schools again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's, you know, it's weird.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So you start a baby making when you're like three years old, still a baby.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I've actually achieved something in parenthood that you haven't achieved yet.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What's that?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have to walk my kids' school.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't walk my kids' school.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't walk my kids' school.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't walk my kids' school.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't walk my kids' school.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't walk my kids' school.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't walk my kids' school.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't walk my kids' school.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't walk my kids' school.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't walk my kids' school.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't walk my kids' school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't walk my kids' school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't walk my kids' school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't walk my kids' school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't walk my kids' school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't walk my kids' school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't walk my kids' school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't walk my kids' school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She'd be like, nah, and I feel like it today, but yeah, I know the rest of them are all they're all walking But yeah, that's good man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just good played some path to Vexel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know we can't say it came out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've heard it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do we got for path to Vexel this week?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, hang on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm accidentally opening an app.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Wait wait wait wait I'm opening.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I accidentally clicked on stream labs.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So let me I hope it doesn't scrub our recording trying to access something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've got lots of mtx giveaways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure what that means, but there's lots of mtx giveaways.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There was lots.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just I don't know what you do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is like the longest loading app.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What the heck is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why are we supposed to do this if it notes?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lots of mtx giveaways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for all the free mtx.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What does that mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, those two dudes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just reading the notes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're pedicking.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: September 5th.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Did you thank our patrons for being patrons?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Buddy, catch up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Move down the last.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That was your week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Lontock.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Justin, how's your lawnmines?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Finally getting green.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now that we're not in 30 degree weather.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but it's freaking muggy and smoky now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, thanks, everybody, for your convenience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's such a good song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm on control now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Forest fires.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Get, thanks a lot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And a, for all you do, Specs, it intentionally sent set forest fires.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And they don't know joke because we have hundreds every year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know California has them BC has them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Alberta has them sketch and I know everywhere else has them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But every year, video surface.

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[SPEAKER_03]: about people intentionally setting forest fires that people are doing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know you're supposed to love your neighbor, but there's a certain part of me where when you die, no one feels bad or cares.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, hopefully it's not a part of you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you weigh a little bit?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, oh gosh, if you say anyway, can I say MTAx?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Lots of giveaways, though, just like we were talking about last week, but still, you know, like...

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[SPEAKER_03]: you get here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, there's the three MTX giveaways for the free week and that they had, right, getting getting killing all the way up to Gregory, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then there's the Twitch giveaways.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so the next set of the Twitch giveaways starts this coming week, which is awesome.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And anyway, just like it's, yeah, they last, down on two leagues, maybe more, they've done like the first one in every second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately, they don't do a good job at

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[SPEAKER_03]: keeping that information easy to access.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They still do the stupid like, well, you got to find it in our announcement list to find this information.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, if you want to know, oh, shoot, what were the two weeks again or what was the MTX for the second week?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Where do you find that?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Where do I think they should put that like who cares?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well people that are looking for it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Should you have to scroll through?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Can you just go on with that?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't really know how it works, man, so you can't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So you just, I mean, maybe you could go on, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: but like when you go to the path of Excel website, you're looking for the path of Excel news.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If it's something that you're encouraging people to do, like it should be very easy to access, right off the bat.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like even if you have like one of those drop-down menus where it's like, you know, events.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, we just want them to go the event route again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you can't even look at those calendars.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Look at that calendar.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, so anyway, thanks for all the 3MTX.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And again, this is just a nice specific and those that were invited to all the different play tests that they did.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But thank you again for the amazing controllers that you gave us just for the sake of showing up for your event.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That was cool.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Still playing with your path of Excel to Xbox elite controller

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[SPEAKER_03]: Have you played?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's lots of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So many Fn times in this bill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, this is like a frigging grenade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If it touches the ground, pieces go everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, do you keep the little flaps on the bottom?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I debated taking them off and just not because I don't use them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Mine, mine are off mine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, is it just taking them off?

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[SPEAKER_03]: But have you tried using the flaps at the bottom?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So for now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For like, you can't even map them to something different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you can't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you can only map them to like the A, B, X, Y or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they're, it's still functions the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you don't get four more times.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So they don't have elite controller support.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Also, should we make fun of them for giving us elite controllers, but they don't support kind of don't mind that because like this controller is way too expensive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so you're talking to a $70 controller versus a $200.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's not cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So to have benefit for that in the game, I don't like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm, I like that they didn't just in, we agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I, but I don't have the flaps on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just put those high, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thought about that just this week to take them off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I should have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Except that sometimes I just like feel them well and play and like I just make fingers rest on them But yeah, it's good idea But these things man, these thumb sticks I don't know how I even lost them because they have taken off on me a number of times Wow, you you must be in a much more aggressive controller player than I am if you haven't

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes it's just like I shake man.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I got drugs in me so sometimes like my head doesn't hold the control of super well Fun of you for anything And then it just literally intentionally not gonna get back surgery just so you can stay on drugs just so that people can make fun of it Yeah, right I try well that is something that happened this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I tried to figure out my first get my first appointment Which is currently scheduled for October 2nd So I got away from it and I've said get me in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if there's a cancellation so

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good for you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And October 2nd is no far away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's exciting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it's funny actually when I was talking to the place that's going to be doing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She said, oh, so how long did you wait for someone?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the neurosurgeon that I've been waiting for, who's like a big deal in Canada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was hard to get into him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She said, how long did you end away from him?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, it was like eight months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, oh, that's not bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, well,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, okay, I understand what you're saying, but she's like, I was just talking to somebody who's trying to get into another neurosurgeon and they've been waiting for over two years and I was like, oh yeah stop trying to make me feel good about something that's taken forever take it forever exactly welcome to free medical Canadian care.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I need to go to the bathroom just and then we can talk about this week and POE.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks for your patience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cute, cute cats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you zoom in?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I asked, staring at something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Another cute.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Still cats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I love you so very this week in P.O.E in GGG land.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was just a bunch of fixes with awesome fixes, great fixes, huge fixes, big big big big big bad tricks.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And all good things, all good things for the patches and that's a few, like anything matter to you anything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, obviously they're all good and they're soul improvements, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually read through the entire B patch mostly because I was just trying to find any of the things that might affect my stuff No, not that I can say specifically that I can remember that still don't want stir alignments and boss alignments things like that patch fixes bug fixes that you probably didn't realize impact you, but yeah, like nothing Builds they were so surprising ones to me that are still not in fixed, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably still trying to figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The one, it's the silliest one, but try moving the valley in your hideout.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She ain't having it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You move her, she comes right back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nevolues in the game?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I may, I will try not to say things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to spoil anything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I do not care about, this is like the only game on the planet I don't care about, spoilers on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I would like to see some things that are related to the new obviously thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I will, let me just say it's going to be fair that there may be spoilers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you have not completed Act 4 and the interludes, this is probably not the episode the listen to until you have finished it because I don't know how to talk about stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: if I can't and I but I really don't want to spoil stuff for you ties so if there's certain things that I'm not worried about it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't even care that the shaper and zana were related so.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it was cool, but I found out before I found out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so now she just won't move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Once she comes to your hideout, she can't move, or she just is like, no, it was the weirdest things to get shipped.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's, I'm always curious.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, same thing with me, like, I'm playing through and I'm going with Minis.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm having a great time, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But my minions are still having the same experience that always had an act one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it was testing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Minions.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, okay, we're skipping straight to act for, okay, typed in this boss is doing good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm so curious what the threshold in the requirement is for because it's such a huge game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So how do you get like seven, 12, I don't know, 15 testers?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how you can properly test this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there are so many things that I've gone through where I'm like, like, bought some of the some of the bosses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I struggle to understand how they tested some of these bosses with a normal build that you would normally have at that point in the game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like at a league start that's just gone like SSF.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You don't design the game around SSF, but every league start is SSF until a certain point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So right, those boys do boss fights and therefore where I was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ready to smash my machine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was getting so mad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I told you I don't remember if it was an afterdark or something where I was I told Christina get out of the room like I'm like I'm gonna lose my mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just I'm getting I was getting so angry granted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've now I've done a second character and on a second character That's all beefed up

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[SPEAKER_00]: and a different playstyle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, that is unfair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like no wonder some people are like, you just suck at the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's my work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But holy crap.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's that's their problem.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You want to have 36 ascendancies in the game?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, like nobody picked that number, but you, so good luck.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, sure, they only have half of those out, but I mean, at the end of the day, it's not even ascendancies.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's classes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: How many classes do you have?

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[SPEAKER_03]: How many original two starting clusters do you have?

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[SPEAKER_03]: What are those starting clusters?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's not my fault that minions have no survivability in Act 1.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not an idiot for picking minions.

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[SPEAKER_03]: when the majority like I have clusters nonstop that are minions when skills are nonstop minions I have snipers and I have all skeletal warriors I have this like I'm not an idiot for picking this you guys gotta figure it out so it is it is frustrating for sure and when they're the ones that pick their numbers and their own ambitions like nobody's gonna feel sorry for you

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's just basic life, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: How ambitious do you want to be versus the cost?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they definitely have a goal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's making versus this game hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that is definitely a part.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've always been like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I do appreciate that to some degree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I think I, I don't remember if I put it in discord, but one of the comments I made regarding a boss named Yamada that you fight is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: they just leading up into 0.3 announced that when you do the final trial of second, the hourglass stupid part where you have to run through all the hourglasses or your one shot and your whole run is done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the changes was that that was no longer going to one shot you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would just do damage, remove honor, and then you'd be into this new arena to fight them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which was a good move because the one shot was stupid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This Yama

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[SPEAKER_00]: That to me is really dumb because for me, at least on my character, the mechanic around what would one shot you was, I had such a struggle getting to the safe zone for this particular, like I don't know if I should say or want to say it whatever, but like the mechanic involved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It requires you to move to a certain point, but you don't know that point until just before the one shot occurs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the timing is just too short.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, granted my second character, I never even saw that mechanic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was talking to somebody in 2021, and they didn't even see that mechanic on their first playthrough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I was talking about, they were like, oh, wow, I had never even seen that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, okay, well, let me tell you for a build that was struggling in a league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Starter, I saw four times in the fight that I finally killed them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm sweating and stressing trying to get this stupid boss, but it's not fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of like when you beat Gregory, you didn't enjoy the challenge because there's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's too much luck that happens.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's not enough where it's like you're reacting to something.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The cool downs or the reaction time from the time of the tell to the time of the damage, the size of the AOE versus the size of the actual visual.

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[SPEAKER_03]: skill.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's just too much discrepancy and it's not appropriate for what's available to the user.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, there's still a lot like for for example for me when I beat Gregory.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't a fun experience.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't enjoy it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: My minions were on cooldown more than they were alive.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, as usual, I don't know who's testing minions, but goodness me, you had to beat Jamirakway for me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, at the end of act two, but at also, I have never progressed better with minions.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, that's not necessarily a compliment.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's an improvement.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, minions have just been trash since the beginning and now we're in September and the game came out in December.

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[SPEAKER_03]: At least I can progress on my own with the exception of a couple like Jamir Quay, I think I tried six or seven times before I asked for your help.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I got close a couple of times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're the only one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People in 2021, when we're asking, I think I did it for three people too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just because I think you're frustrated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody wants to suck at that point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it a lot of it is, and maybe it's fair, maybe it's not.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, wanting to change and wanting to do things better is you can only complement that, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: But the lack of experience that GG has in controlling the meta versus letting the users control the meta or vice versa, like they basically, instead of balancing their skills and having like a very strict set of rules, they would, okay, well, these are the skills they're going to be powerful,

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[SPEAKER_03]: And these are the ones that are going to be if you want to make these work fine, go for it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's how path of Excel won't work.

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[SPEAKER_03]: GGG essentially controlled the meta with their own favorite event.

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[SPEAKER_03]: For us, we, though, I feel like they were always the way to be loved trying to, but kind of coming to a middle ground because they were always rushed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's my assumption.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've never even been close to New Zealand in my life.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let alone, like, no one's like to be at the companies, my point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But...

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[SPEAKER_03]: Knowing how they rush things, having the experience of how things used to be, they don't have a lot of experience in having a balanced meta, but it was all about just changing the meta with this is different now and this is different now and this is buff now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So now it's really tough because this is their first beta where they're caring about all of the above.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I get the frustration and where a lot of the complexities lie and there's so much that we don't understand as users that they have to go through to try and figure out different balances.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's beta still can't forget that it's beta.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not just a league release.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They added a league but this is beta so suck it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and they still on PC though need to put something on the loading screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The first screen to tell you that's not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Still doesn't, and it drives me crazy because there are so many people right now crashing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And their game performs

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[SPEAKER_00]: horribly, when there's a lot going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right now it's the worst I've ever played Path of Exile 2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, I just turned it on last night to play a couple of hours before I went to bed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And good news is this is the first time I stayed up way past.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I should have gone to bed because I was enjoying the game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So GG takes us as a compliment because it's going in a great direction.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it was I almost had to turn it off.

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[SPEAKER_03]: because it was so laggy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Logan's PS5 crashed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the PS5 couldn't handle some of the stuff that was going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have a beefy computer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was talking to other people about beefy computers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there are certain things that are happening specifically related, it seems around a bit, where it's just my beefy computers, the only thing stopping me from crashing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think a lot of people are actually crashing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then having to come back in,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I think that, to me, is actually their biggest point right now of needing to fix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, if you just threw a stupid thing up there that said, this is a beta.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're playing early access.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's crazy to me that that still doesn't show up on the PC game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But you see those are the things that make me think that all GGG is making a new version of Path of Excel 1.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're not making Path of Excel 2, they're making Path of Excel 1.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's those little things, those little details.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and it's just simple thing to excuse a lot, because we, I will give them, excuse, uh, you can excuse a lot of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually think that's fair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's they're in early access.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're beta.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're still trying to figure stuff out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's up to them to choose what's important to fix at the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that I'm playing in early access.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I paid for an early access.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's crazy to not have something that says you may find bugs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There may be bugs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There may be problems.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just something you see it on almost every game that comes out in early

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder how that went for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Speaking of all that kind of marketing, car bought animations, which is, um,

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[SPEAKER_03]: a YouTube group that does funny animations regarding the video games that they're playing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They have maybe over 100 episodes of Elden Ring, so I kind of got into them with Elden Ring.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So many of their videos are really stupid and I don't laugh once and I just think they're ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But the other, you know, so many of them I laugh a lot and so therefore I'm fan of.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Carbot animations a GGG sponsored a video for Path of Excel too for cars not the one you do for them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, it was fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so GGG sponsored it, but the thing that I love about it is that Carbot did not

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hold back any punches for the stage of the game and unfortunately for GGG though the one league that they've decided to put forward like they're having horrible load times and they're having like Some pretty laggy stuff so But it was really funny It was nice to see like I remember in Path of Excel one but I was like I'm loading up the game and I'm like free to play game I don't see that ever advertised on Microsoft ever on Xbox like on the

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[SPEAKER_03]: any of where they have all the radicalism, say anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, you know, I'd have these little comments like, man, I just, I don't know what it's like over there for the team, but I would love to see just like some ads every now and then, like I just want to see them grow, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so it's really cool to see them throw this money at a car bought, and of course other areas that I haven't seen yet, but the car bought animation for was really good and I enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was clever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm, I'm open for the best.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, this is the best patch build, not not like personal build, build that as well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But this is the best version of Path of Excel to that I've played so far.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I had a horrible experience in Act 1, GGG if you're hearing this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, my minions are on cool down instead of in-game play in Act 1.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I just can't do it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And with the changes that have been made

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[SPEAKER_03]: with the change that had been made, I have less options available to me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That being said, I've still progressed better than I ever have.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was still able to eventually kill said bosses with my minions despite the fact that I was running around.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Without my minions for the majority of the battle, I was still the extra damage bonus wasn't the fix, but it actually helped

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[SPEAKER_03]: which is good, which is, I mean, obviously the archetype still needs a lot of work, none of my minions, none of the menus tell me what my skills, my minions actually do for damage.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like if I look at the skeletal warriors, the sniper, any minion that I have unlocked, my Frost Mages, there's nothing that tells me that my Frost Mages are dealing, I don't know, a projectile spell that deals 100% cold damage, there's nothing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: right so they still need to add all that kind of stuff but again early access hopefully that comes soon because that's part of theory crafting i think one of the problems and i've been noticing this uh just with conversation in twenty one twenty one which is our global if you ever want to hang out you don't even have to join our discord but if you just want to hang out with a bunch of people that uh we love the game right yeah like it's it's it's it's good and it's safe uh going to global twenty one twenty one say hi were

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[SPEAKER_03]: Or discord.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, discord's awesome too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly have far discord users don't even listen to podcasts anymore It's just a great group of people but Shoot I've read a note and Trello, and now I have no idea what I was talking you were saying something people were saying in 21 21 people were talking about something How far have you progressed?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where are you at so I am?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Actress so unbelievably

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's one of my struggles, man, that I have to do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Keep thinking, okay, you're coming up to Dory Annie soon.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I forgot about this series.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you're coming up to Dory Annie soon.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're coming up to this series.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's ax three.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like at least you're earning XP, but I guess like that's something.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you got it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like your XP bar needs to take up the entire screen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's why you're getting you through because if you're taught, if you're using the story to help you progress,

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[SPEAKER_03]: your areas need to be like 20 times smaller because oh, the, anyway, x-re-z-3, but whatever, I'm on my way to the comment when you're done, because I, but keep telling me about that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm on my way, but I would love to say I'm halfway through x-3, maybe I'm past.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, I killed the Phil Flady.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I'll see you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, this is the big fire guy with the stupid lava?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the one that you have three from the map, no, no, no, from the, I killed him at the proper level.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, but I was my build not with my build.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I had to use a version of minions that I knew was strong, but it has nothing to do with my build.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I had to use minion instability, but I did it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_03]: With a lighted deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They slept.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I did it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: My frostmatch is how they know hope are you like it's so stupid to me where my frostmatch is spawn in the lava Oh, really.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I like screw you GGG come on like it's like when I'm fighting to drew it and act one my minion spawn in the middle of the corrosive stuff right like just come on Right, it's been eight months like you come on so many play minions in the head the cup

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd skip that boss because I don't like that boss and then found out when I was an end game that you have to do that boss to be able to upgrade essences.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that what the reforging bench does?

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's for essences too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's for essences, but everything also.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just noticed on my essences dashboard that it said, you must complete this quest in Act 3 and I was like, hey, what quest?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I went to look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I went and did it when I was way over level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Easy, really easy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, I was really proud.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's not a couple games in the game, but I was happy that it was there was a reason changes Not in ways, but either way though that I also really like that the game is trying to add all that stuff like they changed a So much about like elemental weakness and ignite and like even just questing like the fact that the game tells you hey You need to do this to unlock this

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It did that intermittently in the first game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Not consistently.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You get to end game stuff like how do you unlock this?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Where do you go for that?

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was blind and I really, the game's doing a really good job at trying to help you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: figure out what's going on and for you to make your own builds.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I was saying before was there's still so many people that are doing guides and builds and they're following people.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's nothing wrong with that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought people should.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's a good thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I definitely, but the game is trying to help you do it on your own.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And GGG's doing a great job at getting there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: of like this is the type of damage at this does this and it's not working for minions yet but I know that not everybody's playing minions and that's what I'm always going to play but there's just this and it's not there for the support gems yet either right like minion instability or decaying hacks like there's nothing that's really telling you what's

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[SPEAKER_03]: what you're supporting for where the damage is coming from, but for so many like of the just direct and spell damages that exist, the game's doing a much better job even then previously in the last patch of helping you understand just as the user itself, what you can do in a blind play through playing for yourself to improve your character.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's done a great job.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, minions aren't even close.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not existing for minions, but it's much better for everything else.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so that's kind of what I was saying.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because a lot of people still follow a guide and I'm really excited for the point where people follow a guide because they don't have the time to make their own build, not because they feel like they need to follow a guide to progress.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Does that make sense?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think guides in games like Path of Exile are always going to be good because it's okay, especially if you don't have time There's too much to try and understand to try and make your own build you were mentioning that it's telling you a lot of stuff I think one thing it's really missing is the idea of slash passives that we used to have in Path of Exile one like when I get to end game

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[SPEAKER_00]: it's not easy to know for sure if I got all of the permanent buffs from the ax.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I can go and see the for the pluses to see did I get all my skill points.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can also even more reason that just look at the my skill tree do I have 24 weapon swapping points if I do cool I do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the rest of the stuff like all of the permanent pluses is lightning plus 10 to whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's new stuff now that they've introduced as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I, that is really hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes, like you don't even know like the symbol, yeah, the symbol for an act, uh, to the, you click on a statue on your way to fighting that all bone boss on the towers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the statue of these two sisters or whatever, doesn't tell you you're going to get something out of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just shows as a little marker, but that's plus 10 lightning resist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's,

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[SPEAKER_00]: to me that's not a small deal like I wish there was something more clear as to like what those guys gave or what the reason to do them was I don't know how they would do that without.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to be thinking about a quest checklist like uh something where within the quest tab or the world tab whichever tab they want like not necessarily add an extra tab but they need to add like a rewards checklist somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that I don't have to go through every single way point in every single act on the map screen and go like Okay, just do I don't have these and these and these and these yeah, but it's a tedious like even if it's not difficult, it's like that's a lot of Okay, that's act one now go to act two and who knows how many acts they're gonna have but the point is like you have these things

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[SPEAKER_03]: So make a user first experience for making sure that you have all these things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially because their zones are so big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if I miss it, now I got to go find it in that zone like those checkpoints getting raised.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know if they have one and you have one way point for the entire area.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I was going to go back to your

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[SPEAKER_00]: the the just the annoying size of things and there's a there's a zone and act for I said I put a video of it into our discord where I was like yeah guys this is not like you didn't get the memo at all that zone is actually bigger than any zone I've ever seen ever in Path of Excel to anywhere

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[SPEAKER_00]: The thing is, so act four is incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Act four is so good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, thematically, I love to act four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was trying to, I was talking to myself a couple times this week going like, is it because it's new?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, did you feel this way about act one and two and three at certain points?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, were you just, you really, really enjoyed it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I did, like, the theme in act four and just the,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually like the story, the voice acting, all of the things that we're going on and act for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved act for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really, really liked act for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm hoping that that's, you know, a good sign of

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[SPEAKER_00]: Moving forward intact five and six, but act four was amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Besides the fact that they still have zones that are a bit unnecessarily, I don't know why they just have this obsession with zones being that ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see the picture I put in discord of the map I did?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't you had a couple of shots of the maps that were so ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The tough thing is that this is leveling Yeah, and I have shit to do like you can't have dinner to make.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have kids take care of I have I mean, I don't have a job, but everybody else in the world has a job like yeah, you have a job you have

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it takes like, I need to get through it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, of chores, yeah, you have life, so if my instance times out, my checkpoints are gone.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So who cares about the checkpoints?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I have a way point to help me in between real life.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Checkpoints are for when the game is frustrating.

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[SPEAKER_03]: or like because your zones are so big now I can like I'm I'm going through the door anything and I'm doing the souls and so it's like okay I have one like soul thing I have to turn on on the right side of the map and one on the left they have checkpoints there because they made the areas so huge I collect the checkpoints before I turn in the and put in any of the souls so that I don't have to deal with all the extra mob's bonding so I literally will find the two

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[SPEAKER_00]: get both checkpoints first, go to the first one, place it in, hit the checkpoint, go to the second one, place it in, hit the checkpoint, go back to the waypoint, which they didn't always have that checkpoint at the waypoint, so I thought they added that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, the zones are just that they're unnecessarily large.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was, that's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: OK, that's good for checkpoints for saving like a little bit of my game time, but at the end of the day, it's not only happening in those games, I'd be going to bad layout.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This I can't do a level while I have something in the oven, and I'm waiting for it to ding for dinner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because what's going to happen?

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[SPEAKER_03]: OK, so I get the way point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But if I can't finish the area, you have to release it for the dinner because the instance resets.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's still a massive area.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it is an interesting dynamic.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe they never cared.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like originally path of Excel one was sweet.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have 15 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I can sit down and do a few maps.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But then they added and then they added and then they added.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And all of a sudden maps turned into like and good for some people bad for others just depends on your lifestyle.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But all of a sudden like depending on how you did your Atlas pass of tree in path one, you did not have 15 minutes for a map.

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[SPEAKER_03]: because of all the different stuff that you added and the things that you could do and access, it wasn't a 15-minute map anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You couldn't just sit down and do a map or two, and maybe that was never a priority for them, but that was something that we always appreciated with the older versions of Path of Exile 1.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe that was never something that they cared about with Path 2.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe they expect you to sit down and be like, okay, I'm only playing Path 2 of 5 a couple of hours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Path 2's mapping has gotten better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just talking about mapping?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am talking in game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think in a sense of just sitting down to play for a little bit, but it's just some

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they added sprint and I think my comment when I put the video up was like you can't add sprint and then say okay now it's fine for us to design these zones to still be big because the fact is I'm not sprinting through the map.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying if I can to sprint between mobs which is great.

54:15.378 --> 54:16.398
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually love sprint.

54:16.438 --> 54:23.062
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a great addition to the game but I don't like if that's the excuse to continue making zones enormous.

54:23.723 --> 54:23.923
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah,

54:24.603 --> 54:34.412
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd be catching myself like I'm finding that I only sprint, I have to stare at the mini map when I sprint and that's really frustrating for me.

54:35.079 --> 54:35.379
[SPEAKER_00]: I do.

54:36.039 --> 54:51.962
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, just because like, I'm still in the campaign, but there's just so much crap that they throw in like barrels and wagons and broken trees that this tree is actually part of the, no, you can't cross zone, but this broken tree can run completely over.

54:52.503 --> 54:54.443
[SPEAKER_03]: So I have to stare at the mini map when I'm sprinting.

54:55.003 --> 54:55.683
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not fun.

54:55.863 --> 54:56.823
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not inclusive.

54:56.863 --> 54:57.284
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not,

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's all right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's there.

55:06.302 --> 55:10.308
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just I think the areas are a little bit too clustered.

55:10.668 --> 55:15.997
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess you could say to really take it especially because enemy still respond in campaign.

55:16.057 --> 55:19.943
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm again, I'm all my comments are regarding campaign because I'm not an endgame but

55:20.643 --> 55:21.263
[SPEAKER_03]: I still like it.

55:21.563 --> 55:24.805
[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't use it anywhere as much as I think they hope that I do.

55:25.465 --> 55:28.246
[SPEAKER_03]: And I have used it in a couple of boss fights, which is nice.

55:29.287 --> 55:36.270
[SPEAKER_03]: I've also been knocked down in a few boss fights, which I was like, ah, but I still haven't found one pair of boots, the movement speed.

55:36.370 --> 55:39.591
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm enjoying progressions.

55:39.651 --> 55:40.992
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see any luck, holy crap.

55:41.547 --> 55:57.256
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I guess, but I am enjoying being able to progress without movement speed, like that's, they should design the game about being capable of doing whatever that build is that they're thinking should be capable of the of the campaign.

55:57.876 --> 56:02.159
[SPEAKER_03]: was zero movement speed like without any movement speed buffs for the entire campaign.

56:02.199 --> 56:09.123
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that should be a great I'm not saying for designing the zones or like what are you saying zones bosses?

56:10.023 --> 56:13.105
[SPEAKER_03]: You should be like if movement speed doesn't drop for you.

56:13.125 --> 56:13.766
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not your fault.

56:14.246 --> 56:17.888
[SPEAKER_03]: You shouldn't be stuck until 15% drops, right?

56:17.908 --> 56:20.270
[SPEAKER_00]: I think so print made a big difference to that because

56:21.110 --> 56:23.191
[SPEAKER_00]: It makes a massive difference in some zones.

56:23.852 --> 56:27.714
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, 100%, but in terms of boss fights, that's too high risk high reward.

56:28.254 --> 56:29.895
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's only one I've ever used sprint on.

56:30.235 --> 56:32.696
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the fire lady with the... Wasn't it good?

56:33.096 --> 56:34.857
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it used a last time we talked.

56:35.538 --> 56:37.118
[SPEAKER_00]: My second one was like, yeah, that's way better.

56:37.299 --> 56:41.621
[SPEAKER_03]: It's actually except for the bottom that has some weird sticky odey thing for some point of this reason.

56:42.141 --> 56:44.562
[SPEAKER_03]: It was, it actually worked out quite well.

56:47.764 --> 56:52.407
[SPEAKER_03]: That soul thing where you use the large soul core comes out from the wall and does all the laser beams.

56:52.688 --> 56:58.071
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, I always did I'm there too, because I was playing quite late and I was zoning out.

56:58.492 --> 57:05.977
[SPEAKER_03]: And so like when the big, really obvious triangle shows up, I would just stand there like an idiot for a long time.

57:05.997 --> 57:06.798
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, right.

57:06.918 --> 57:12.001
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I'd like run data a couple times didn't make it, but it's I love that boss fight.

57:12.161 --> 57:13.823
[SPEAKER_03]: I think actually I think it's really well designed.

57:13.863 --> 57:15.624
[SPEAKER_03]: I was just playing way too late in the night.

57:16.024 --> 57:22.930
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I was I was reacting and thinking very slowly they have some really cool bosses enact for some really cool zones.

57:23.211 --> 57:27.735
[SPEAKER_00]: I like I saw people there's one zone where you go to the prison.

57:27.755 --> 57:30.918
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that zone is so freaking cool.

57:31.598 --> 57:33.919
[SPEAKER_00]: Especially because you fight Brutus.

57:34.659 --> 57:39.980
[SPEAKER_00]: No, can I tell you the theme of that zone with you telling me anything you want man I do not care about spoil those balls.

57:40.080 --> 57:46.522
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a zaro and the lab theme and it's a zaro talking.

57:46.562 --> 57:47.222
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's cool.

57:47.403 --> 57:49.923
[SPEAKER_03]: They showed that to us like long term.

57:50.143 --> 57:55.565
[SPEAKER_00]: There's some bosses that we saw years ago like the one that remember when they made people at some event trying fight a boss

57:56.185 --> 57:56.385
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

57:56.825 --> 57:58.726
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that we that boss is in act four.

57:59.726 --> 58:07.409
[SPEAKER_00]: At a certain point, but the the prison theme is it's the lab, but it's like sunk.

58:07.729 --> 58:13.151
[SPEAKER_00]: It's now overrun with the ocean has like floed in and through the lab.

58:13.711 --> 58:15.192
[SPEAKER_00]: So it ever has awesome.

58:15.772 --> 58:25.123
[SPEAKER_00]: No, then they'll thankfully know no river eggs, but the water through the zone as you're going through is actually like flowing from the outside in through the prison.

58:25.624 --> 58:33.914
[SPEAKER_00]: And it almost acts like how you use to in lab avoid the fire to get to the high ground to avoid the fire in certain areas, you know what I mean?

58:34.494 --> 58:54.582
[SPEAKER_00]: right in lab you know I'm talking about like the traps well so you can walk through the water but you're slowed down when you walk through the water so there's high ground take it away from it like the themes I just thought it was really cool and then the boss fight was incredibly hard for me but the entrance to the boss fight is so cool like that they're literally telling you not to go fight this boss

58:55.362 --> 58:58.886
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just I thought the entrance into that boss fight was so freaking cool.

58:58.946 --> 59:13.902
[SPEAKER_00]: So there was a lot of like I really really really like that for I did make a second character and pretty much sprinted through the first three acts to get back to doing act for again and still enjoy doing act for the second time.

59:13.982 --> 59:14.222
[SPEAKER_00]: I think.

59:14.883 --> 59:19.586
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they ruined Act 1, 2, and 3 for me, just because you had to do them twice for every character.

59:20.187 --> 59:28.373
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I've just done it so many times now, and the problem is, and we've said this before, I honestly don't care about the campaign, as much as I'd like Act 4, I don't want to do it again.

59:28.953 --> 59:33.376
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I, for the same character, like I'm done, get me to the end game, that's what I want to play.

59:35.017 --> 59:39.560
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm glad that you don't have to do those again, but I just thought I asked for it was great.

59:39.700 --> 59:42.442
[SPEAKER_00]: I really, really like the theme behind the different zones.

59:42.462 --> 59:43.863
[SPEAKER_00]: They're all different to each other.

59:43.923 --> 59:46.104
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was just, I thought it was really well done.

59:46.324 --> 59:47.625
[SPEAKER_00]: I really, really like tact for.

59:48.206 --> 59:51.147
[SPEAKER_03]: So why are you on a second character and what is your second character?

59:51.167 --> 59:52.408
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to why I'm on a second?

59:52.468 --> 59:54.490
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, there is one comment.

59:54.510 --> 59:57.231
[SPEAKER_03]: I pretty sure I already know why you're on a second character.

59:57.271 --> 59:57.752
[SPEAKER_00]: But go on.

59:58.152 --> 59:59.833
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, my dad, I was doing great.

59:59.953 --> 01:00:01.034
[SPEAKER_00]: I was really enjoying my dead.

01:00:01.074 --> 01:00:02.535
[SPEAKER_00]: I was progressing through the Atlas.

01:00:02.695 --> 01:00:11.620
[SPEAKER_00]: I got all the way up to all of my, I still, I dial as passive as like the, it's just not because that was your favorite thing for past one.

01:00:11.680 --> 01:00:16.023
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not purely one and maybe that's why I just liked it too much in purely one, but I just don't.

01:00:16.844 --> 01:00:21.407
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I just have, I'm struggling to get to a point where I enjoy it in part of Excel too, but

01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:27.923
[SPEAKER_00]: I was progressing my dead eye great and then one comment that I remember where they commented this.

01:00:28.643 --> 01:00:48.052
[SPEAKER_00]: But they were talking about because I have had people reach out to me with that same problem I have with the role sometimes going into the sprint animation and then somebody commented said something to the effect of that I think they said that it happened to them but they didn't notice it because they play thorns and so the things were dying anyway and I was

01:00:49.353 --> 01:01:00.039
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, thought like the idea of thorns, I'm like that sounds fun, but I didn't think you could make a whole build around playing thorns and like in one play session after that happened.

01:01:00.059 --> 01:01:03.821
[SPEAKER_00]: I had three unique straw that were all focused on thorns damage.

01:01:03.841 --> 01:01:06.102
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, all right, I'm going to try a thorns build.

01:01:06.942 --> 01:01:11.725
[SPEAKER_00]: So I made a warrior and I am trying thorns.

01:01:12.005 --> 01:01:20.331
[SPEAKER_00]: I tried to look in some stuff myself, tried to look into what some other people are playing with it, and it's actually, it's kind of fun.

01:01:20.491 --> 01:01:21.192
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been pretty fun.

01:01:21.232 --> 01:01:22.052
[SPEAKER_00]: That was my whole reason.

01:01:22.092 --> 01:01:24.714
[SPEAKER_00]: My whole reason was I was like, okay, well, if I'm gonna get knocked down.

01:01:25.388 --> 01:01:44.945
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to kill them anyway when I'm on the floor because although that being said I haven't really had that issue since then I still do like there is it's too short of a delay for you to have to let go of that B button before it does this stutter into the sprint move which if you happen to get hit in that time knocks you over.

01:01:45.645 --> 01:01:52.448
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I'm currently just messing around with the Thorne's build I was talking to a buddy who's playing Which hunter?

01:01:52.468 --> 01:02:09.657
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know that was one of the ascendancies a witch hunter He plays with grenades and he plays like at such a crazy high level and he understands all the stuff and he's super fast That was like yeah, but can I do that with controller and he's like, I don't know how anybody plays with controller I'm like okay cool, but can I play it with controller?

01:02:10.317 --> 01:02:19.787
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like probably not because it all requires like precision placing for how you're placing the grenades and I was like I can't go back to keyboard announcement like I'm into controller now.

01:02:19.867 --> 01:02:24.471
[SPEAKER_00]: So I wanted something that was a little more chill I honestly just wanted to do act 4 again too.

01:02:24.751 --> 01:02:29.956
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to go back through it with something else I want to see what how I felt about redoing the campaign

01:02:30.597 --> 01:02:30.797
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:02:31.337 --> 01:02:38.941
[SPEAKER_00]: My time, it took me nine and a half hours of in-map zone time, like I used the little thing that tracks it.

01:02:39.462 --> 01:02:47.426
[SPEAKER_00]: But so it was a little bit, it was shorter for sure than what it was in 0.2 to do a second character.

01:02:47.966 --> 01:02:50.687
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was still such a drag doing 1, 2, and 3.

01:02:51.248 --> 01:02:51.928
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually really,

01:02:55.730 --> 01:02:57.211
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the first intro into it.

01:02:57.251 --> 01:03:03.193
[SPEAKER_00]: The fact is act one doesn't have a ton of massive zones, like nothing like act three and act two.

01:03:03.513 --> 01:03:06.454
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of inconvenience with it though, right?

01:03:06.474 --> 01:03:08.094
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like it kicks in and act two.

01:03:08.655 --> 01:03:12.376
[SPEAKER_00]: Then convenience is act two insane inconvenience.

01:03:12.396 --> 01:03:15.117
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, go talk to this person, run back to the caravan.

01:03:15.157 --> 01:03:16.977
[SPEAKER_00]: Go talk to this person, run back to the caravan.

01:03:18.898 --> 01:03:23.119
[SPEAKER_03]: The story like, yeah, that'll definitely have to change.

01:03:23.540 --> 01:03:28.401
[SPEAKER_03]: The stuff that I don't like is like, okay, so three areas connect to this one area.

01:03:29.081 --> 01:03:33.903
[SPEAKER_03]: So I need to find the waypoints for these other areas that I'm not wasting all of my time.

01:03:34.043 --> 01:03:34.183
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

01:03:34.223 --> 01:03:40.605
[SPEAKER_03]: So I hug the edge and I, okay, I get this area and this waypoint, this waypoint, but one of those doesn't have a waypoint.

01:03:40.845 --> 01:03:45.066
[SPEAKER_03]: Because the waypoint is because they have this rule, if you can only have one waypoint for area.

01:03:48.427 --> 01:04:02.745
[SPEAKER_03]: because I still need to do in the middle it happens in act one and in act two and there's also an area in act one where one of the areas you need to get to is in the middle of the map it's not an edge and that's always a pain in the butt and that's where the way point is to I think I don't remember if it's a good news where it's right

01:04:03.486 --> 01:04:30.059
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's just one of those things where it's like it's not convenient to there's not a convenient way to just easily access these waypoints and then go click like like like like like again in the final acts of path of Excel one right where you have like okay there's the area there's a waypoint there's the area there's a waypoint and then you can go back and do it all and I think that one is does the best of all of the first three acts for that.

01:04:30.939 --> 01:04:35.143
[SPEAKER_00]: I think act one is the most efficient for how I know where to run around.

01:04:35.163 --> 01:04:48.516
[SPEAKER_00]: I do the same thing as you grab my things grab the Waypoint cool back into the zone finish of what I need to do and make sure I'm not I do have to check the map too often to be like, oh, did I miss you know grabbing one of the way points or whatever But yeah, it's not as free and wrong thing

01:04:49.257 --> 01:04:50.337
[SPEAKER_00]: it's to me the best.

01:04:51.298 --> 01:04:52.158
[SPEAKER_00]: And act too.

01:04:52.358 --> 01:04:53.818
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't mind it.

01:04:53.918 --> 01:04:55.278
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's too much back and forth.

01:04:55.418 --> 01:04:57.299
[SPEAKER_00]: Act three is just so tiring.

01:04:57.639 --> 01:05:01.000
[SPEAKER_00]: I just it is the most exhausting of them.

01:05:01.180 --> 01:05:04.281
[SPEAKER_00]: And act four does this great job where it's just like that's your zone.

01:05:04.801 --> 01:05:05.761
[SPEAKER_00]: Go to that island.

01:05:05.981 --> 01:05:10.002
[SPEAKER_00]: You're usually two zones within the island, two or three zones within the island and you're

01:05:10.642 --> 01:05:18.444
[SPEAKER_00]: do in your thing and then you are back to the laggy it's zone in the entire game which is King's March.

01:05:18.884 --> 01:05:20.165
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you're going to Kings March.

01:05:22.105 --> 01:05:25.967
[SPEAKER_00]: I was showing Logan Kings March at one point and my whole screen was black.

01:05:26.427 --> 01:05:30.648
[SPEAKER_00]: The whole screen was black and laggy and I was moving by the mini map.

01:05:31.368 --> 01:05:38.651
[SPEAKER_00]: I do that so often when I come in, but those are the things where it's like, those are the things you got to figure out before you lie.

01:05:38.671 --> 01:05:44.133
[SPEAKER_00]: I think those are hard to test because there's probably a server-load side to that, which they can't test, which is too bad.

01:05:44.693 --> 01:05:49.935
[SPEAKER_03]: After 10 years, you should have a kind of threshold of numbers of what you can handle.

01:05:50.555 --> 01:05:50.895
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

01:05:52.096 --> 01:05:56.678
[SPEAKER_03]: It still seems like I don't know either, but it seems like it's new person stuff.

01:05:56.898 --> 01:05:58.899
[SPEAKER_03]: It seems like those things that seem rushed.

01:05:59.439 --> 01:06:04.221
[SPEAKER_03]: Those aren't the same things that seem like, okay, we have experience in this area.

01:06:04.241 --> 01:06:06.202
[SPEAKER_03]: And these are our thresholds.

01:06:06.602 --> 01:06:15.146
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, we can push these thresholds because of this, this, and this with our new game, but it's weird that sometimes they do things

01:06:18.767 --> 01:06:46.333
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know enough about any of that stuff to understand why it's doing it because the the leg and the performance to me is their biggest thing that needs to get fixed right now because it's making the game not that it's sad that that's a reason why sometimes I'm debating not playing because I've just experienced insane leg and I'm like this is dumb like and I'm still getting into that point with it maps right like if I run a map that's got all of this is and

01:06:49.454 --> 01:06:59.244
[SPEAKER_00]: I I'll be able to do it, but I won't fully grasp what's happening and see what's happening and then and let me tell you and this is nothing new

01:07:00.652 --> 01:07:11.135
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not new at all, but I hate that they're so willing to die on the hill of post-death bullshit.

01:07:11.795 --> 01:07:12.475
[SPEAKER_00]: It is.

01:07:12.495 --> 01:07:14.036
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you still finding some of that?

01:07:14.496 --> 01:07:16.337
[SPEAKER_00]: Holy Jesus, man.

01:07:16.737 --> 01:07:18.077
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it's awful.

01:07:18.257 --> 01:07:19.017
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so bad.

01:07:19.437 --> 01:07:24.599
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if I fight a mob and it explodes and puts shit on the ground, how on earth am I meant to see that?

01:07:25.159 --> 01:07:26.080
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't see it.

01:07:26.180 --> 01:07:27.460
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea that it's there.

01:07:27.980 --> 01:07:31.862
[SPEAKER_00]: You have a mob that blows up in green, in an abyss.

01:07:31.922 --> 01:07:35.344
[SPEAKER_00]: There's green dudes that are pustules that blow up.

01:07:35.564 --> 01:07:38.305
[SPEAKER_03]: They're like green on green on green and red on red on red on red.

01:07:38.325 --> 01:07:39.286
[SPEAKER_00]: I miss this all green.

01:07:39.766 --> 01:07:40.246
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:07:40.286 --> 01:07:41.087
[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing but green.

01:07:41.267 --> 01:07:47.690
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that I'm standing on some shit that's on like that stuff kills me like you can't.

01:07:49.270 --> 01:08:11.916
[SPEAKER_00]: The problem is you cannot have a game that runs like it and that can't handle it and then put something into the game where you can't see it Like the combo, those two things just don't work and Oh, I have a I have a comment on combos coming for you, but I'm almost why I just like you're just talking about bad combos and I hear you There's too much stuff that happens post-death

01:08:12.676 --> 01:08:23.421
[SPEAKER_00]: and that remains on the ground or is on the ground that it's just it kills the fun for me when that stuff happens because I can't I can't see it.

01:08:23.541 --> 01:08:34.986
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no way of you know it's funny because I've trying to figure out what might this character and I'm going well I need chaos resist because that's all I'm assuming that's what a business is doing is all chaos damage.

01:08:36.387 --> 01:09:03.896
[SPEAKER_03]: But that's the only reason that I'm building chaos is for the bullshit that they're throwing on the ground that I can't see when the game starts lagging to the point where it's running at 15, 20 frames a second and I'm just hoping I'm in the right spot and I'm on my good Xbox 2 and the performance bet I I though I think I disagree on the chaos resist I come across just in the non-abyss version of the game there's enough chaos damage in the game where I'm like I need chaos resist

01:09:04.556 --> 01:09:07.200
[SPEAKER_03]: And there's almost none, almost none on the tree.

01:09:07.621 --> 01:09:14.210
[SPEAKER_00]: And well, this is the reason that you really are going to want it like over and above the other stuff like I don't disagree with you.

01:09:14.290 --> 01:09:18.916
[SPEAKER_00]: I would always like to have chaos, but I feel like the reason I'm pushing chaos is because

01:09:20.277 --> 01:09:31.329
[SPEAKER_00]: of the shit on the ground that I can't see while I'm in the middle of a fight because the games just it's struggling to keep up with what they've decided to put on the screen.

01:09:31.349 --> 01:09:32.250
[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know what I mean?

01:09:32.270 --> 01:09:34.873
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they've given me the option to put this stuff into a map.

01:09:35.433 --> 01:09:36.394
[SPEAKER_00]: And now I can't run it.

01:09:36.454 --> 01:09:36.595
[SPEAKER_00]: Like,

01:09:37.115 --> 01:09:42.858
[SPEAKER_00]: That part confuses me a little bit because that should not have been a hard thing to test and so maybe they're just trying to figure out how to fix that.

01:09:42.898 --> 01:09:54.305
[SPEAKER_00]: But I have tried every version of Vulcan DirectX FSR done and video DLSS like I've tried literally I've tried all these different things.

01:09:55.305 --> 01:10:03.893
[SPEAKER_00]: And my game, I think the only thing that keeps you running is the fact that it's a beefy computer, but it's still down to like 15 to 20 frames a second.

01:10:04.274 --> 01:10:07.537
[SPEAKER_00]: And from what I've talked to other people, that's actually quite good compared to what they've been getting.

01:10:08.055 --> 01:10:19.824
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm one really cool thing that I've noticed is that on console, they have that same performance rectangle in the top, you have to load up options to get it, so you can only get it when you're not doing stuff.

01:10:20.264 --> 01:10:21.785
[SPEAKER_03]: But still, it's there.

01:10:21.805 --> 01:10:26.949
[SPEAKER_03]: I had some really bad performances as well, and the thing is with console, you don't have options.

01:10:27.990 --> 01:10:35.335
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you have the options in the options menu, but you have no way of turning on or off or changing hardware, right?

01:10:35.415 --> 01:10:38.578
[SPEAKER_03]: So it is something we're either going to have to figure out, especially.

01:10:38.658 --> 01:10:45.423
[SPEAKER_03]: And I love, I still love love love love love love love love love love love love love that this like they're treating console and computer the exact same way.

01:10:45.443 --> 01:10:49.426
[SPEAKER_03]: How the launches are happening at the same time.

01:10:49.446 --> 01:10:52.228
[SPEAKER_03]: I, well, I guess I should say Xbox because

01:10:52.948 --> 01:11:01.302
[SPEAKER_03]: For whatever it is that Sony does, Sony just doesn't give their users a fair shake, everything's a little bit delayed or not good enough or not shared.

01:11:02.439 --> 01:11:29.161
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel for the Sony people, but don't worry, it's not you, it's Sony, but either way, it's like, I love what GGG's trying to do with it, and so I'm looking forward to what it is sucks, of course, that they're not really handling the static performance right now, like that minimum threshold for what the worst console could be, whether that's the PS5, or whether that's the Xbox Series S, who knows, but that's like that's your base performance, that's what everything needs to be able to work on.

01:11:30.807 --> 01:11:45.795
[SPEAKER_03]: But you know what, like I've had my frustrations, I've had my internal curses, which I'm getting much better at now than my kids are older, but I have to tell you that I have, again, I'm a minion player, right?

01:11:45.875 --> 01:11:49.997
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's not like my bar was very high after my initial disappointment after December

01:11:51.198 --> 01:11:55.262
[SPEAKER_03]: thereafter, but this is the best time that I've ever had in Path of Excel too.

01:11:55.322 --> 01:11:56.403
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like I'm playing a game.

01:11:56.903 --> 01:12:02.689
[SPEAKER_03]: I know that it's beta, but this is what I expected the launch to be like, like, unbalanced, but playable.

01:12:03.369 --> 01:12:11.457
[SPEAKER_03]: And so despite the fact that that expectation of mine is arriving late, or the adherence to it, I'm having a great time.

01:12:11.517 --> 01:12:14.340
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I've played lots this week, and I have loved,

01:12:14.680 --> 01:12:31.536
[SPEAKER_03]: I've had my very frustrating times, of course, like I said, like some balance, some bosses are like some bosses are way up here in the echelon of things in the campaign and others are way down and like you mentioned before that's like just the basis of balancing builds and skills versus damage and how do you balance?

01:12:32.197 --> 01:12:38.681
[SPEAKER_03]: What a boss is good or bad against that, but I make it actually playable for so many different types of archetypes.

01:12:39.362 --> 01:12:50.589
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, basic archetypes are basic, but still like it's the beta stage and so I had to ask for your help for a couple Gregory took me a long time and I wasn't, I wasn't excited when I beat Gregory.

01:12:50.609 --> 01:12:52.911
[SPEAKER_03]: I was just finally done with it.

01:12:53.751 --> 01:12:56.873
[SPEAKER_03]: I needed help with the end of the act too boss, but you know what I did do just in.

01:12:58.014 --> 01:12:58.334
[SPEAKER_03]: Do I?

01:12:58.634 --> 01:12:59.335
[SPEAKER_03]: How are you for time?

01:12:59.615 --> 01:13:00.215
[SPEAKER_03]: I know we're almost at 11.

01:13:00.335 --> 01:13:00.535
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

01:13:01.696 --> 01:13:01.916
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

01:13:02.416 --> 01:13:03.197
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm tired of pinching.

01:13:03.357 --> 01:13:04.397
[SPEAKER_03]: I got quick to go to the bathroom.

01:13:04.417 --> 01:13:05.978
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be right back and then I will tell you.

01:13:06.078 --> 01:13:06.298
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

01:13:07.819 --> 01:13:08.099
[UNKNOWN]: Back.

01:13:08.900 --> 01:13:10.000
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you caught me mid-burp.

01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:12.101
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope you don't catch that.

01:13:12.721 --> 01:13:24.367
[SPEAKER_03]: So I've been having a great time, as I said, and I've been really enjoying progressing with a build that is finally viable, right?

01:13:26.032 --> 01:13:39.194
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not one of those sticks in the mud where let's like, I refuse to play things, but I mean, I do, it's just, I only want to play builds that interest me and I don't want, I'm not looking for fancy builds and just there's only certain archetypes that interest me and minions have always been.

01:13:39.907 --> 01:13:50.896
[SPEAKER_03]: that archetype for me in a narrow PG and it's really nice to finally play through the game and be capable of progressing without the exceptions that I mentioned to you before and understandably it's beta so life goes on.

01:13:51.597 --> 01:13:57.562
[SPEAKER_03]: But it has been so fun to just play minions like I'm doing Frostmages because I like slowing people, right?

01:13:58.322 --> 01:13:59.223
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what's really funny?

01:13:59.723 --> 01:14:01.004
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what it is about me.

01:14:01.585 --> 01:14:02.806
[SPEAKER_03]: I like slowing enemies.

01:14:02.826 --> 01:14:04.007
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to freeze enemies.

01:14:08.355 --> 01:14:12.218
[SPEAKER_03]: It's almost like, instead of torturing somebody, it's like killing somebody.

01:14:12.298 --> 01:14:17.262
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like the easy way out, you know, like you don't feel the pain, like I like slowing enemy.

01:14:17.282 --> 01:14:19.203
[SPEAKER_03]: So they're like 99% slowing.

01:14:19.223 --> 01:14:22.806
[SPEAKER_03]: They're barely moving, but it's like extra torture.

01:14:22.846 --> 01:14:24.487
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's what I like about slowing enemies.

01:14:25.128 --> 01:14:27.329
[SPEAKER_03]: It's nice to just actually get that done.

01:14:27.630 --> 01:14:27.730
[SPEAKER_03]: And,

01:14:29.157 --> 01:14:32.399
[SPEAKER_03]: progress and feel like there's movement there.

01:14:32.519 --> 01:14:36.880
[SPEAKER_03]: I still think like some minions cost too much spirit.

01:14:37.401 --> 01:14:41.802
[SPEAKER_03]: If I don't have bonus spirit on the sector, I have two frost mages, and I'm an act 3.

01:14:43.663 --> 01:14:48.908
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it'd be nice to have three or four, and then if I've bonus spirit, it's a little bit more you know what I mean?

01:14:48.968 --> 01:14:56.375
[SPEAKER_03]: But the bonus damage has been, it's not enough, but it's been a nice band-aid for where minions are currently at.

01:14:56.875 --> 01:14:58.737
[SPEAKER_03]: There's still uncleal down a lot.

01:14:58.797 --> 01:15:03.201
[SPEAKER_03]: They still spawn like I mentioned earlier in really stupid areas in certain boss fights.

01:15:03.602 --> 01:15:05.103
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the creativity of boss fights.

01:15:05.123 --> 01:15:06.344
[SPEAKER_03]: I love how unique they are.

01:15:06.504 --> 01:15:08.807
[SPEAKER_03]: There's not very many that feel the same.

01:15:09.467 --> 01:15:15.630
[SPEAKER_03]: Whereas in Path of Excel, one with the exception of pinnacle bosses, there was a lot of familiarity with kind of like an Elden Ring, you know what I mean?

01:15:16.110 --> 01:15:23.093
[SPEAKER_03]: Like a big boss, whether it was a drag and or something with big feet, like they all felt the same like you kind of see the similarity in the wall.

01:15:23.854 --> 01:15:26.095
[SPEAKER_03]: So I've been really enjoying being...

01:15:27.055 --> 01:15:30.958
[SPEAKER_03]: capable of progressing on my own with just a basic build.

01:15:31.138 --> 01:15:39.805
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just doing frost mages and skeletal warriors, skeletal warriors have so a really really big change for what I want to do.

01:15:39.865 --> 01:15:48.993
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to do curses and minions and one big reason that I really like curses is of course temporal chains because I've always had a heart on for slowing people down and amazing debuffing.

01:15:49.533 --> 01:15:56.917
[SPEAKER_03]: But the fact that in feeble is just such a nice static damage mitigation no matter who you're fighting, right?

01:15:57.017 --> 01:16:07.102
[SPEAKER_03]: And GGG has been doing a good job in trying to like change all this like math in regards to how curses work versus unique and rare and magic enemies.

01:16:07.182 --> 01:16:10.324
[SPEAKER_03]: And so like they'll figure that out, but it's just nice.

01:16:10.384 --> 01:16:12.125
[SPEAKER_03]: It's flat damage, right?

01:16:12.165 --> 01:16:14.386
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just flat damage mitigation no matter what.

01:16:14.466 --> 01:16:15.446
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm thinking, okay, what?

01:16:15.486 --> 01:16:16.507
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, do I invest in armor?

01:16:16.527 --> 01:16:17.327
[SPEAKER_03]: Do I invest in ES?

01:16:17.347 --> 01:16:18.028
[SPEAKER_03]: Do I invest in

01:16:18.808 --> 01:16:26.930
[SPEAKER_03]: whatever or I can invest in curses, to me investing in curses is the same quantity investment for a really good value when you're using in people.

01:16:27.571 --> 01:16:29.891
[SPEAKER_03]: And so that's one reason that I really like it.

01:16:30.071 --> 01:16:36.113
[SPEAKER_03]: And they changed the infinite curses duration from the bloodmaid to the lich this patch.

01:16:36.453 --> 01:16:41.975
[SPEAKER_03]: And whether that stays or not, I don't know, but that is completely build defining.

01:16:42.675 --> 01:17:01.544
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, like the amount of investment that I do into curses now is completely different because so much curse magnitude is a small values small values, but those small values add up and those small values are in some of those clusters are gated behind a lot of cursed duration nodes.

01:17:02.204 --> 01:17:15.236
[SPEAKER_03]: But if my curse duration is going to be infinite, do I actually want to spend five nodes for that 10% curse magnitude when all I'm getting is curse magnitude because I don't care about duration?

01:17:15.817 --> 01:17:25.866
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's been a very big upheaval to what I've been trying to do in the past, but just an unlocked infinite curse duration, like I send it to it.

01:17:27.387 --> 01:17:27.747
[SPEAKER_03]: Love in it.

01:17:28.527 --> 01:17:29.288
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my goodness.

01:17:29.628 --> 01:17:39.551
[SPEAKER_03]: So I got that like mid-act 3 right and so I go on what's it like black jaw or whatever That cool boss on the way to Dorianne where you're doing like the sole cores and stuff.

01:17:40.012 --> 01:17:48.835
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh It's typically unlike the south west side And yeah, yeah, that was the first boss I fought with infinite cursteration

01:17:49.555 --> 01:18:03.799
[SPEAKER_03]: I accidentally cast the curses like a hundred times because I'm used to just casting, you know, every however long after, but it was so neat because now it's like, okay, so in boss fights, I have temporal chains and in feeble and eventually I'll have a third curse.

01:18:04.420 --> 01:18:05.420
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, but...

01:18:05.640 --> 01:18:06.721
[SPEAKER_03]: What do I do with all this manner?

01:18:06.741 --> 01:18:09.082
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, what do I do?

01:18:09.662 --> 01:18:15.184
[SPEAKER_03]: Because while I'm mapping, I'm not going to bother spending all that manner on my cursive.

01:18:15.204 --> 01:18:16.545
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, so I'm using zombies.

01:18:16.565 --> 01:18:28.791
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm using still the siphoning, whatever it is, and I'm getting my power charge, and I'm doing zombies, and I'm doing zombies with my frost mages, and then a tiny bit of my skeletal warriors.

01:18:29.991 --> 01:18:35.715
[SPEAKER_03]: I like the skeletal words because it gives me a variety, even if I'm not using them for anything specific, even if it's just exploding.

01:18:36.456 --> 01:18:39.458
[SPEAKER_03]: But all the other sectors require strength and I'm not going to bother with that.

01:18:40.098 --> 01:18:46.643
[SPEAKER_03]: So I have two skeletal images maybe three depending on the spirit that I have left over.

01:18:47.283 --> 01:18:50.266
[SPEAKER_03]: my skills, my frost mages, but then I'm weapon swapping.

01:18:50.286 --> 01:18:59.435
[SPEAKER_03]: I absolutely love Justin that they added that my weapons now can work for both, because now it's like, okay, well, I don't feel like skeletal mages.

01:18:59.475 --> 01:19:02.999
[SPEAKER_03]: I just feel like a whole bunch of exploding minions, and so then I just...

01:19:03.719 --> 01:19:10.582
[SPEAKER_03]: Swap, and then that one's the tree with no resist for my minions, and it's just all exploding skill to warriors, and I love it.

01:19:11.243 --> 01:19:18.366
[SPEAKER_03]: And but then I'm doing zombies for both right every time I get a power charge, a zombie comes out, and it's actually really good for clearing, and it's really strong.

01:19:18.626 --> 01:19:31.452
[SPEAKER_03]: And one thing that I hope works, but I haven't heard anything from GGG, is that minion damage applies to minion instability, which, according to the description, only scales with

01:19:33.053 --> 01:19:33.233
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

01:19:33.714 --> 01:19:35.096
[SPEAKER_03]: But it has the minion tag.

01:19:35.176 --> 01:19:38.281
[SPEAKER_03]: So does that minion tag include minion damage?

01:19:38.321 --> 01:19:42.547
[SPEAKER_03]: There's there's that it's it's a little vague right now within the game itself.

01:19:42.687 --> 01:19:45.671
[SPEAKER_03]: I know people will be like, Oh, well, this is the way that is this way.

01:19:45.691 --> 01:19:48.996
[SPEAKER_03]: It is, but I haven't heard anything from GG yet and it's really tough to test.

01:19:50.188 --> 01:20:15.493
[SPEAKER_03]: point is doing zombies right and I'm swapping between either all skeleton warriors or frost mages and skeletal warriors and it's nice I can swap on the fly they've added extra revive nodes which is awesome they added you know how remember how there used to be a 12% minion reservation node like reduced reservation or increased reservation efficiency they still have that but now there's also a 25% one

01:20:18.374 --> 01:20:21.616
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm excited to keep going and going and going.

01:20:21.656 --> 01:20:25.939
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't feel like I have to have these notes for my builds to function now.

01:20:26.519 --> 01:20:30.862
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just excited to get there because it'll make it stronger, but I'm able to function without them.

01:20:32.263 --> 01:20:57.655
[SPEAKER_03]: I know that people that have been playing other archetypes in other builds or following guides for some of the stronger skills, the sounds old and mundane like what why haven't you done this, but as a minion lover, as a minion player, and really it's one of the only archetypes that even interests me in ARPGs, to actually play it and enjoy it, I know it sounds stupid, because it's September and this came out in December,

01:20:58.575 --> 01:21:04.518
[SPEAKER_03]: but this nine months later, it feels so good to just play and actually be able to play.

01:21:04.538 --> 01:21:06.039
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't get this enough.

01:21:06.319 --> 01:21:19.686
[SPEAKER_03]: Support gems and active skills to play around with ideas, but because I have a pretty steady build that I'm pretty confident in that I pre-planed ahead of time, it is so, so fun.

01:21:20.346 --> 01:21:20.586
[SPEAKER_03]: It's great.

01:21:20.606 --> 01:21:21.547
[SPEAKER_03]: But you know how it's working out.

01:21:22.007 --> 01:21:22.707
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, me too.

01:21:23.828 --> 01:21:24.848
[SPEAKER_03]: But you know what wasn't fun?

01:21:26.169 --> 01:21:27.130
[SPEAKER_03]: the second ascension.

01:21:27.730 --> 01:21:29.692
[SPEAKER_03]: The trials of chaos is so stupid.

01:21:30.012 --> 01:21:36.557
[SPEAKER_03]: The bosses they have are at the completely wrong end of difficult.

01:21:37.137 --> 01:21:38.258
[SPEAKER_03]: But I can't tell which ones you get.

01:21:38.278 --> 01:21:41.480
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I got them all because I tried it a hundred times.

01:21:42.601 --> 01:22:04.261
[SPEAKER_03]: but like okay so listen to this so so you know the trial where they have like that big red circle that slowly explodes I don't know when that change but that takes up the whole screen now it does it's just that at this point it slowly starts expanding and expanding and it's literally the whole screen I have to do the modifier you're talking about yeah yeah

01:22:04.981 --> 01:22:09.543
[SPEAKER_03]: I have to move in it, but sometimes that's the best modifier because all those mods are stupid.

01:22:10.043 --> 01:22:13.584
[SPEAKER_03]: So I have to like move an entire screen away and wait.

01:22:14.144 --> 01:22:17.625
[SPEAKER_03]: Now try coupling that with the one where you're, what is it?

01:22:18.246 --> 01:22:21.987
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, that thing you have to escort that like to.

01:22:22.007 --> 01:22:23.447
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, come on.

01:22:24.208 --> 01:22:25.788
[SPEAKER_00]: Usually you can do that.

01:22:25.808 --> 01:22:27.649
[SPEAKER_03]: And now we're to die at that boss.

01:22:29.451 --> 01:22:36.920
[SPEAKER_03]: It was so stupid, but then you add like volatile like the combinations of stuff are ridiculous, but then the bosses aren't balanced.

01:22:37.121 --> 01:22:39.283
[SPEAKER_03]: Those bosses are not balanced.

01:22:39.684 --> 01:22:41.466
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I pray for the chimera.

01:22:42.086 --> 01:22:45.471
[SPEAKER_03]: I hate that boss, but I hate the chimera.

01:22:46.051 --> 01:23:04.907
[SPEAKER_03]: ended up I ended up so unfortunately so my wife and that we had date night on Wednesday my wife and that we had wonderful date it was a fantastic date night but we were there was a few things going on so we had to pause our movie a few times and so my wife was in a conversation having an important conversation life goes like you know life stuff

01:23:05.988 --> 01:23:08.209
[SPEAKER_03]: And then up being like a little bit longer than she expected.

01:23:08.229 --> 01:23:13.492
[SPEAKER_03]: So I just loaded the path of Excel while I was sitting next to her and was waiting and I'm like, I'm just going to I was at the state.

01:23:13.532 --> 01:23:15.893
[SPEAKER_00]: You thought you were just going to ascend in a quick amount of time.

01:23:15.993 --> 01:23:17.114
[SPEAKER_00]: You're at your mind.

01:23:17.134 --> 01:23:17.674
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the thing.

01:23:18.054 --> 01:23:20.415
[SPEAKER_03]: I was all frustrated with ascending.

01:23:20.435 --> 01:23:27.699
[SPEAKER_03]: I was playing path of Excel while the kids are getting ready for bed and earlier in the day and I was just like, I'm, I am going to ascend.

01:23:27.739 --> 01:23:29.020
[SPEAKER_03]: This is my second trial.

01:23:29.160 --> 01:23:33.162
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, I'm pretending for some reason that the game can like feel my emotion.

01:23:34.042 --> 01:23:39.767
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, I'm just going to keep ascending and I'm going to keep getting XP until I'm like completely overleveled and I can do this.

01:23:39.827 --> 01:23:45.072
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I wasn't going anywhere until I send it this second time and I was sucking, I was failing.

01:23:45.092 --> 01:23:46.894
[SPEAKER_03]: I was getting the worst combinations.

01:23:46.934 --> 01:23:48.515
[SPEAKER_03]: I was getting the dumbest bosses.

01:23:48.555 --> 01:23:51.618
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm getting like these dumb ones, whatever it was, right, all of the above.

01:23:52.218 --> 01:23:55.261
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's this time after my wife and I've been hanging out for half the evening.

01:23:55.281 --> 01:23:58.684
[SPEAKER_03]: We both have a couple of shots in a Savadka and we're going through it.

01:23:58.704 --> 01:24:00.426
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, I'm half tipsy and I'm like,

01:24:00.546 --> 01:24:03.488
[SPEAKER_03]: That's good, thank you, and you can keep getting my X-peen.

01:24:03.748 --> 01:24:04.128
[SPEAKER_03]: I do it.

01:24:04.609 --> 01:24:05.329
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I do it.

01:24:05.609 --> 01:24:07.470
[SPEAKER_00]: Against a stupid, like, rooster.

01:24:07.490 --> 01:24:09.672
[SPEAKER_00]: I find I play way better when I drink too.

01:24:09.812 --> 01:24:10.592
[SPEAKER_03]: Totally.

01:24:10.612 --> 01:24:12.914
[SPEAKER_03]: No, that's just like you when you're drinking and driving.

01:24:12.974 --> 01:24:15.776
[SPEAKER_03]: Inform you a little one, digitally, not in real life.

01:24:16.136 --> 01:24:18.678
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody knows drinking and driving is stupid, and if you do it, don't.

01:24:19.178 --> 01:24:20.199
[SPEAKER_03]: But I did it.

01:24:20.899 --> 01:24:21.879
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, there you go.

01:24:21.899 --> 01:24:29.263
[SPEAKER_03]: Tips, it completely, like, more close to drunk than tipsy, but I did it two or three shots in on the stupid rooster.

01:24:29.823 --> 01:24:30.763
[SPEAKER_03]: I hate that one.

01:24:30.843 --> 01:24:31.924
[SPEAKER_03]: It just didn't do that one.

01:24:32.064 --> 01:24:34.025
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what, like, crazy shot.

01:24:34.185 --> 01:24:35.465
[SPEAKER_03]: It does that one shots.

01:24:35.505 --> 01:24:36.566
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't see it the whole fight.

01:24:36.966 --> 01:24:38.967
[SPEAKER_03]: It killed me to see him on the monitor before.

01:24:39.187 --> 01:24:40.948
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, sh, don't.

01:24:41.688 --> 01:24:43.669
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you going to look at my pain boss?

01:24:45.009 --> 01:24:46.270
[SPEAKER_00]: God, you're going to see him again later.

01:24:46.930 --> 01:24:51.911
[SPEAKER_00]: The, you know, if funny, I did the one that was on the tower with the tornadoes, which I've always hated.

01:24:51.951 --> 01:24:53.172
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was the stupidest one.

01:24:53.212 --> 01:25:00.773
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I got that way, but wait, wait, wait, but because you can sprint around the arena while the big huge tornadoes out.

01:25:01.153 --> 01:25:03.034
[SPEAKER_03]: But the tornado takes up the entire arena.

01:25:03.074 --> 01:25:04.374
[SPEAKER_03]: How do you sprint around the tower arena?

01:25:04.414 --> 01:25:07.975
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you can get around it with sprint that was my only way of doing it.

01:25:07.995 --> 01:25:12.736
[SPEAKER_00]: Because as soon as I got that, I was like, ah, but I'll tell you what, you, that would have sent me what just.

01:25:17.638 --> 01:25:19.179
[SPEAKER_03]: So I want to ask about thorns.

01:25:19.219 --> 01:25:22.982
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it literally like how just like cast on damage taken?

01:25:23.202 --> 01:25:24.783
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that kind of sort of instant?

01:25:25.443 --> 01:25:34.570
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, so the thorns are great, but you're also using retaliate stuff so that you're getting your basically you can re-trigger your thorns because of barbs and thorns.

01:25:34.590 --> 01:25:35.571
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember what it's called.

01:25:36.237 --> 01:25:42.400
[SPEAKER_00]: But in trial, the second one, you were not supposed to get hit because you got it right, that's right.

01:25:42.420 --> 01:25:46.502
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and the only way to trigger your damage is to get hit.

01:25:47.103 --> 01:25:53.886
[SPEAKER_00]: So, a lot of blocking, a lot of blocking, and then also running, it was so boring.

01:25:54.006 --> 01:26:02.510
[SPEAKER_00]: And it made me so angry while I was doing it because I had to do my third ascension, the third ascension, you can't get, because I was like, well, just do it through,

01:26:03.571 --> 01:26:07.095
[SPEAKER_00]: The other one, the one that you were just making a box, I was like, what do I can do with damage?

01:26:07.135 --> 01:26:13.582
[SPEAKER_03]: That's eventually you're probably going to be able to have unlimited tries for your third decision because that's what they do for the first one in the second one.

01:26:13.602 --> 01:26:16.265
[SPEAKER_03]: You get that original drop and you get infinite.

01:26:16.506 --> 01:26:19.689
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they tell you what's coming for the third decision in act four.

01:26:19.709 --> 01:26:19.749
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.

01:26:21.090 --> 01:26:21.931
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, spoilers.

01:26:22.091 --> 01:26:23.113
[SPEAKER_03]: I want Justin to tell me.

01:26:23.593 --> 01:26:28.699
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so Justin's going to tell me if you don't want to hear it skip ahead a few seconds.

01:26:29.200 --> 01:26:30.742
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a very cool zone.

01:26:31.242 --> 01:26:32.364
[SPEAKER_00]: Very, very cool zone.

01:26:32.384 --> 01:26:34.005
[SPEAKER_00]: I have Hina Korra.

01:26:35.232 --> 01:26:35.692
[SPEAKER_00]: It's mobile.

01:26:35.732 --> 01:26:47.155
[SPEAKER_00]: Back for Toda, Toda, not mobile, Toda, well, we know it, we know it, we know it, we know it, but it's still hurt when it's finally there.

01:26:47.355 --> 01:26:48.576
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, so here's what happens.

01:26:48.596 --> 01:26:49.536
[SPEAKER_00]: You go through act four.

01:26:49.576 --> 01:26:51.897
[SPEAKER_00]: You go through his own beautiful, very cool zone.

01:26:51.997 --> 01:26:53.577
[SPEAKER_00]: I loved the zone itself.

01:26:54.777 --> 01:26:56.898
[SPEAKER_00]: I really, really thought that whole zone was super cool.

01:26:57.438 --> 01:27:01.619
[SPEAKER_00]: But when you get to the end of it and you're speaking with the

01:27:04.280 --> 01:27:08.624
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, her and the mother of whatever the whole thing, are you breaking up with me?

01:27:09.004 --> 01:27:12.126
[SPEAKER_00]: They literally tell you like that it's coming, but it's not ready yet.

01:27:12.186 --> 01:27:16.270
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's that's the actual line that you'll, that the girl uses.

01:27:16.650 --> 01:27:19.773
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, ah, Tyler's gonna love it.

01:27:20.553 --> 01:27:35.356
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess what it's like, my builds, GGG, yeah, that's not Sechema, that's not a sending for me was a nightmare on the stupid chaos trials of chaos, and that's not stupid ally totems.

01:27:36.097 --> 01:27:42.144
[SPEAKER_00]: That's where I, the way that they talk about it, that's definitely the direction that it sounds like it's going for the final.

01:27:42.204 --> 01:27:46.529
[SPEAKER_03]: Or PG is about playing your build.

01:27:48.071 --> 01:27:51.034
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know what, maybe that one will be the least tedious.

01:27:51.054 --> 01:27:52.976
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, it's a bad design.

01:27:53.977 --> 01:27:56.721
[SPEAKER_03]: And it hasn't come out yet, so maybe it'll be great.

01:27:56.741 --> 01:27:58.202
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe we've got to give them that grace.

01:27:58.783 --> 01:28:01.206
[SPEAKER_03]: But at the end of the day, you don't want to choose.

01:28:01.286 --> 01:28:08.013
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't want your options to be based on the least tedious, or the one that I hate the least.

01:28:08.694 --> 01:28:12.158
[SPEAKER_03]: You want to choose between a whole bunch of options that you really like.

01:28:13.119 --> 01:28:15.201
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't want to choose the one you hate the least.

01:28:15.221 --> 01:28:17.103
[SPEAKER_00]: Especially because it's for such a major thing.

01:28:17.263 --> 01:28:18.284
[SPEAKER_00]: It's your ascendancy.

01:28:18.384 --> 01:28:21.527
[SPEAKER_00]: It's why you speak where you're starting.

01:28:21.547 --> 01:28:24.870
[SPEAKER_00]: I needed I wanted my third ascendancy because that was the block.

01:28:24.930 --> 01:28:25.591
[SPEAKER_00]: It was for block.

01:28:25.631 --> 01:28:28.013
[SPEAKER_00]: It was I guaranteed 35% block for my shield.

01:28:28.053 --> 01:28:28.874
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's a big deal.

01:28:28.914 --> 01:28:30.155
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, I need to get this.

01:28:30.676 --> 01:28:35.320
[SPEAKER_00]: But for your third ascension, you can't do the third ascension through

01:28:36.141 --> 01:28:57.724
[SPEAKER_00]: the other one the whatever you're talking about like the only that that you it doesn't make any sense they when you do the first one that you were talking about it's the green drop that you can just repeat as many times as you want but you only have to do three rooms and then you fight the boss but yet as you progress through the game you get more of those drops that are like seven trials or whatever

01:28:58.385 --> 01:29:10.033
[SPEAKER_00]: But you can only do your third ascension once you have the 10 trial section, which means I had to go and do trial with the second one, because those were the only drops that said they would give me the ascendancy points for my third ascension.

01:29:10.053 --> 01:29:10.693
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's right.

01:29:11.113 --> 01:29:14.496
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess that's a very important part of their balance process now, hey.

01:29:15.156 --> 01:29:19.039
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, let me tell you that third ascension was rough.

01:29:19.619 --> 01:29:24.822
[SPEAKER_00]: That was three floors of thorns and blocking.

01:29:25.723 --> 01:29:28.646
[SPEAKER_00]: Thankfully, I had good, um, we don't get it.

01:29:28.686 --> 01:29:32.450
[SPEAKER_03]: With two floors, if you've done trials, you can't see, don't get on the second.

01:29:32.851 --> 01:29:33.551
[SPEAKER_00]: No, you have to do three.

01:29:34.152 --> 01:29:35.393
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I got to do the third one.

01:29:35.653 --> 01:29:37.175
[SPEAKER_00]: There's four in total, but you got to do three.

01:29:37.736 --> 01:29:39.257
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it was not, it was not fun.

01:29:39.317 --> 01:29:45.003
[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to ask you, uh, because I mean, we actually go in long, but whatever, uh, have you played with trade at all?

01:29:45.484 --> 01:29:46.885
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm not touching trade until,

01:29:47.866 --> 01:29:50.608
[SPEAKER_00]: So trademark it that they've added in the pause menu is pretty cool.

01:29:50.748 --> 01:29:53.951
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it basically gives you the full search functionality of the website.

01:29:54.031 --> 01:29:54.851
[SPEAKER_00]: And it works great.

01:29:54.931 --> 01:29:55.552
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really good.

01:29:56.132 --> 01:29:58.594
[SPEAKER_00]: And you unlock the merchant stuff and act for.

01:29:59.194 --> 01:30:00.115
[SPEAKER_00]: So you can start using them.

01:30:00.295 --> 01:30:00.876
[SPEAKER_00]: I have them.

01:30:00.996 --> 01:30:01.936
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm struggling with it.

01:30:01.997 --> 01:30:03.838
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a really, really cool feature.

01:30:03.898 --> 01:30:05.659
[SPEAKER_00]: Like really cool feature that they've done.

01:30:06.460 --> 01:30:11.363
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's still... It's a bit tedious to list stuff because you can't just list a whole...

01:30:12.304 --> 01:30:17.809
[SPEAKER_00]: tab at like 1x or 1c or whatever and just throw stuff and then you got a manually price everything.

01:30:17.829 --> 01:30:21.633
[SPEAKER_00]: I get it though otherwise your market's just full of stupid shit.

01:30:22.153 --> 01:30:23.134
[SPEAKER_00]: Well it already is though.

01:30:23.635 --> 01:30:24.275
[SPEAKER_00]: It's no different.

01:30:24.395 --> 01:30:27.338
[SPEAKER_00]: It shows up on the exact same spot if I go and search.

01:30:27.558 --> 01:30:31.061
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's one of the things it's a bit of a struggle is if I search in the pause menu.

01:30:31.782 --> 01:30:43.390
[SPEAKER_00]: The only things I see in the pause menu are things that are on the merchant tabs, where I can just go straight to the person's hideout and buy it, and the function works great, but that's all I'm seeing.

01:30:43.450 --> 01:30:52.597
[SPEAKER_00]: However, if I go on the website and search, I see all the stuff that people have listed in the premium stash tabs, but I also see all the stuff that people have listed in the trade.

01:30:53.237 --> 01:30:54.038
[SPEAKER_00]: merchant taps.

01:30:54.458 --> 01:30:54.678
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

01:30:54.718 --> 01:31:02.625
[SPEAKER_00]: So it is better for me to go on to the website because I will find something typically for a better price than if I do it the other way.

01:31:03.026 --> 01:31:09.391
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's just tough because you have to consider spam, right?

01:31:09.471 --> 01:31:10.512
[SPEAKER_03]: Like how's the different though?

01:31:10.812 --> 01:31:11.393
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't understand.

01:31:11.593 --> 01:31:17.357
[SPEAKER_03]: Because not everybody plays as respectfully as you, right?

01:31:17.417 --> 01:31:24.662
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you will just have people that have their, okay, this is my premium tab, everything that I've found in this map is going in here.

01:31:25.143 --> 01:31:25.943
[SPEAKER_00]: How is this tab like?

01:31:26.524 --> 01:31:30.847
[SPEAKER_03]: Because you have all this stuff that people aren't manually putting effort into pricing.

01:31:31.447 --> 01:31:38.172
[SPEAKER_03]: So you have no matter what crap falls, showing into a premium tab and then that's what's showing up on the store.

01:31:38.773 --> 01:31:41.604
[SPEAKER_00]: But that shows no matter what, like that's what I don't understand.

01:31:41.644 --> 01:31:43.872
[SPEAKER_03]: If I will be dead, you're talking about how you're filtering.

01:31:44.648 --> 01:32:01.784
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, because you can filter through all the stuff, but what I'm saying is right now is more efficient for me to find what I want and to make sure I'm getting it for the best price to go on to the website still because that's where it will show me the premium tabs plus the merchant tabs.

01:32:01.844 --> 01:32:08.470
[SPEAKER_00]: If I only go in game and search through that function, which their trade function works great, the problem is I'm only seeing the merchant stuff.

01:32:08.510 --> 01:32:10.411
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a good chance I'm paying more.

01:32:11.112 --> 01:32:37.562
[SPEAKER_00]: then if I went through the website and if I go through the website it like kudos to them if i'm in game and i go to the website and i find the item uh there's a button that teleports me to their hideout in game like i click it on my browser and my game takes me to that person's hideout and then like their function for the trade works great when i go to the hideout i don't have to do anything it instantly pops up purple box around the one i want i can buy it i can look around their other stuff but i'm done i don't have to

01:32:39.377 --> 01:32:53.911
[SPEAKER_00]: that's why I don't see the difference if like I my hope is that they just move away from the premium stash tabs and only do the merchant tabs and then the search works the same whether I'm in game or I'm on the browser because right now it doesn't.

01:32:54.492 --> 01:32:56.133
[SPEAKER_00]: It is odd to have both.

01:32:58.155 --> 01:33:04.859
[SPEAKER_03]: If your GGG, do you care about how much garbage is for sale?

01:33:05.380 --> 01:33:07.701
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's already for sale.

01:33:07.781 --> 01:33:12.324
[SPEAKER_03]: And no, they don't care because that's the way I'm asking you as a GGG.

01:33:12.404 --> 01:33:13.485
[SPEAKER_03]: No decision maker.

01:33:13.905 --> 01:33:15.326
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it doesn't cost you a lot.

01:33:15.746 --> 01:33:18.608
[SPEAKER_03]: To have all that extra crap for sale online?

01:33:19.168 --> 01:33:20.729
[SPEAKER_00]: No, and it's already for sale.

01:33:21.109 --> 01:33:22.230
[SPEAKER_00]: Nope, no, it doesn't.

01:33:22.670 --> 01:33:32.439
[SPEAKER_00]: And the only difference that I can see is that if I buy it through the merchant way, I have to spend gold, okay, just make everything work that way and trade, it's a nominal amount.

01:33:32.499 --> 01:33:38.505
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, okay, I pay 20,000 for buying an item and end game, like what differences it make, that's fine to me.

01:33:38.925 --> 01:33:42.848
[SPEAKER_00]: I just feel like it's too bad because it's taking me out of the game.

01:33:42.888 --> 01:33:47.012
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, their search function in the trade market when you go to it is good.

01:33:47.172 --> 01:33:54.898
[SPEAKER_00]: It's still missing some functionality that you get from the website, but I'm assuming that will come with time and they'll eventually get that filtering work in the same as the website.

01:33:54.978 --> 01:33:58.101
[SPEAKER_00]: But it just sucks that you're only seeing the stuff that are in merchant tabs.

01:33:58.141 --> 01:34:03.105
[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas if I go onto the website, I get to see premium stash tabs as well as merchant.

01:34:03.765 --> 01:34:11.551
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't make any sense for me to stay in-game and use the trade market, but it's definitely going in a cool direction and it works great.

01:34:11.591 --> 01:34:14.353
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I actually really like, and I like that I can put stuff up for sale.

01:34:14.874 --> 01:34:16.935
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll come back later and find that I've got some results.

01:34:17.115 --> 01:34:27.223
[SPEAKER_00]: There, it's just tedious to me to list stuff for sale because I can't just dump it into a tab that I say, okay, these are all 1x and I'll just let them sell however they sell, and that's great.

01:34:27.343 --> 01:34:29.805
[SPEAKER_00]: I love that I don't have to interact with other people, love it.

01:34:30.305 --> 01:34:33.586
[SPEAKER_00]: like let me put it up for sale and that's somebody just buy it and I never have to get a message from them.

01:34:34.206 --> 01:34:37.387
[SPEAKER_03]: I love how much we don't like people but not all of us for people.

01:34:37.947 --> 01:34:38.087
[SPEAKER_03]: No.

01:34:38.747 --> 01:34:41.308
[SPEAKER_00]: We only have a podcast for me to have a podcast for people.

01:34:41.768 --> 01:34:41.908
[SPEAKER_00]: No.

01:34:42.368 --> 01:34:43.229
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, these two right here.

01:34:43.669 --> 01:34:44.009
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

01:34:44.049 --> 01:34:47.290
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we keep it offline if that was the case.

01:34:47.710 --> 01:34:48.470
[SPEAKER_00]: We do, just for fun.

01:34:49.570 --> 01:34:53.572
[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to quickly bring up engine and game changes because I've played through it and done it.

01:34:53.632 --> 01:34:54.192
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:34:54.272 --> 01:34:54.612
[SPEAKER_00]: Please do.

01:34:55.152 --> 01:35:02.297
[SPEAKER_00]: The new version of how they do curses against you is good, like so when you run a map that say has temporal chains, it's no longer this map has temporal chains.

01:35:02.357 --> 01:35:08.801
[SPEAKER_00]: It's you periodically are affected by temporal chains, but even that is not just like every eight seconds, you get temporal chains.

01:35:08.921 --> 01:35:13.524
[SPEAKER_00]: It's as if some magic being is just casting a temporal chains circle on the ground.

01:35:13.644 --> 01:35:19.809
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you get caught by it, then you've got 10 chains for a bit, same with elemental weakness and they're not like.

01:35:20.709 --> 01:35:35.861
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, where, oh, temporarily or on occasion or with the occasional area of effect, where it's entirety used to be what it's like, just the whole map, but it's just a small little circle as long as you avoid it, you don't get hit by it.

01:35:35.962 --> 01:35:40.005
[SPEAKER_00]: That to me is a great change, especially for 10 chains, because it would make me delete.

01:35:40.205 --> 01:35:44.108
[SPEAKER_00]: Just never ever touch a map if I rolled 10 chains on it, because 10 chains in pui too is

01:35:50.654 --> 01:36:04.494
[SPEAKER_03]: But I never used to have like it was difficult for them to do like temp chains against monsters versus temp chains against users the math would always be different some curious what it's still better as they we won't change the math against monsters, right?

01:36:04.996 --> 01:36:05.236
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:36:06.117 --> 01:36:06.857
[SPEAKER_00]: So I do like that.

01:36:06.917 --> 01:36:07.598
[SPEAKER_00]: That changes good.

01:36:08.038 --> 01:36:11.320
[SPEAKER_00]: They're changed to how you progress through the Atlas is a little bit better.

01:36:11.920 --> 01:36:14.241
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you're still searching for the nexus.

01:36:14.301 --> 01:36:26.929
[SPEAKER_00]: You're, you're, you definitely unlock the ability to get points into like breach expedition, whatever those, whatever those four things are, they've, they've unlocked how you get those first initial points in a better way.

01:36:28.333 --> 01:36:29.974
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that sounds familiar, right?

01:36:30.015 --> 01:36:30.375
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:36:30.775 --> 01:36:41.544
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, and then once you do it, like, you get, you can go and access the end game version of it in an easier format by just collecting 50 instead of 300 splinters.

01:36:41.584 --> 01:36:51.953
[SPEAKER_00]: So your quest says like collect 50 breach splinters and then you can go use those 50 breach splinters and you get to fight the version of the boss, but in an easier stage of that boss.

01:36:52.733 --> 01:37:09.351
[SPEAKER_00]: uh which is cool and it's seem like i don't know if they mean it to be this way but you just get unlimited tries like it doesn't you don't run out of it but like first first try it kind of like that but let me tell you though i sent you a video in uh simulacrum

01:37:10.693 --> 01:37:12.915
[SPEAKER_00]: If you can't do it, don't do it.

01:37:13.276 --> 01:37:21.125
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I was stuck, you know, a never ending loop of spawn from checkpoint, spawn from checkpoint, and I've got mobs all over me.

01:37:21.145 --> 01:37:22.687
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't get away from them.

01:37:23.348 --> 01:37:28.734
[SPEAKER_00]: It took me probably 45 minutes to complete it, and I was just angry because,

01:37:29.755 --> 01:37:31.736
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it seemed weird to me.

01:37:31.756 --> 01:37:32.436
[SPEAKER_00]: There was no out.

01:37:33.077 --> 01:37:34.237
[SPEAKER_00]: There was no way to get out of it.

01:37:34.377 --> 01:37:40.920
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just stuck in a never-ending loop of spawn from checkpoint with mobs on my face trying to win.

01:37:41.460 --> 01:37:42.541
[SPEAKER_00]: That sounds hot, Justin.

01:37:43.021 --> 01:37:45.342
[SPEAKER_00]: I wish I was on my thorns character so it would have been better.

01:37:45.733 --> 01:37:50.799
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so like their intro into it has gotten better and getting those first few points has gotten into it.

01:37:50.859 --> 01:38:01.550
[SPEAKER_00]: I still find the Atlas passive a bit boring, but I'm also finding in game a little bit boring, but that's not a fair thing because I know endgame still got a lot of work like we're still early into it.

01:38:02.931 --> 01:38:04.592
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm on the opposite end.

01:38:04.612 --> 01:38:05.132
[SPEAKER_03]: You add it.

01:38:05.152 --> 01:38:06.753
[SPEAKER_03]: You should be confident in it.

01:38:07.073 --> 01:38:09.634
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't add it and be like, well, but there could be more.

01:38:09.654 --> 01:38:11.635
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they've added on certain ways.

01:38:11.675 --> 01:38:17.997
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just, it's just, I, the Atlas itself is just so like you get the way points.

01:38:18.177 --> 01:38:20.998
[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a part of it that sucks because of the load.

01:38:21.258 --> 01:38:24.239
[SPEAKER_00]: Like when I want to run a waste zone, I got to click on the map.

01:38:24.660 --> 01:38:25.240
[SPEAKER_00]: But then there's a,

01:38:26.100 --> 01:38:29.682
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not into it right away because there's systems just not fast enough for it yet.

01:38:30.222 --> 01:38:32.784
[SPEAKER_00]: So I've got this load of waiting for the Atlas to come up.

01:38:33.284 --> 01:38:35.025
[SPEAKER_00]: Then I got to figure out where do I want to run?

01:38:35.045 --> 01:38:42.830
[SPEAKER_00]: But then they've also got random spots within the Atlas if you happen to find them, where there's Atlas points gated behind doing those things.

01:38:43.010 --> 01:38:44.171
[SPEAKER_00]: But you can't, like,

01:38:45.911 --> 01:39:02.697
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there's a struggle as you get older because you're trying to look at a massive screen and see things But they're small little icons and you're trying to figure out like which ones are actually going to give me Atlas points right now So I'm looking for the little unique symbol all over this map, but them Atlas becomes enormous as you play it more so

01:39:04.238 --> 01:39:07.080
[SPEAKER_00]: If I want to just go and do a map, I find it a bit annoying.

01:39:07.220 --> 01:39:09.622
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the same as in purely one, throw the map and run it.

01:39:09.662 --> 01:39:10.862
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going.

01:39:11.082 --> 01:39:12.343
[SPEAKER_00]: You're playing right now.

01:39:12.403 --> 01:39:12.784
[SPEAKER_00]: It's okay.

01:39:12.804 --> 01:39:13.444
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to do a way of starting.

01:39:13.464 --> 01:39:15.105
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to click on the thing, wait for it to load up.

01:39:15.165 --> 01:39:18.567
[SPEAKER_00]: It pops up, find the node that I think I want to run.

01:39:19.047 --> 01:39:23.891
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, do I go towards a tower of the tower still or super boring?

01:39:24.591 --> 01:39:29.774
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like it's just, I know it's not at any current version of being finished.

01:39:31.121 --> 01:39:37.305
[SPEAKER_03]: No, but it's tough to see and it's not like it's important to us because they'll figure it out.

01:39:37.425 --> 01:39:42.628
[SPEAKER_03]: But they had quite the identity with how the previous mapping system worked.

01:39:43.909 --> 01:39:44.149
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

01:39:44.790 --> 01:39:47.812
[SPEAKER_03]: And now it's what's the identity now?

01:39:48.492 --> 01:39:49.533
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like it's complete.

01:39:49.573 --> 01:39:54.156
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like they're trying to completely change what the identity of the endgame is.

01:39:54.876 --> 01:39:55.497
[SPEAKER_03]: But what is it?

01:39:56.057 --> 01:39:58.218
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think that's still kind of being figured out.

01:39:58.579 --> 01:39:58.939
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course.

01:39:59.259 --> 01:39:59.579
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course.

01:39:59.699 --> 01:39:59.980
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course.

01:40:00.020 --> 01:40:00.100
[SPEAKER_03]: Now.

01:40:00.895 --> 01:40:14.362
[SPEAKER_03]: I would have expected them to know what that identity is and worked towards it and maybe they know that well the maybe they do and we're just it's just taking time right and maybe they don't and they're trying to figure it out because they're pleasing the masses also not a wrong way to go about it.

01:40:14.602 --> 01:40:26.729
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just it has its different sets of pros and cons as you go through the process especially for the beta testers I yes right so hopefully it's a like it sucks that it's still not a state where it's very

01:40:29.013 --> 01:40:33.495
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, is grappling the right word where it keeps you sucked in, you know what I mean?

01:40:33.535 --> 01:40:34.896
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't even use to do that for me.

01:40:35.116 --> 01:40:37.077
[SPEAKER_03]: The end game used to do that in path 1, right?

01:40:37.117 --> 01:40:45.841
[SPEAKER_03]: Where you were excited to stay, you were excited to progress, you were excited to farm once you were at that final stage, but can you hear my cats?

01:40:46.141 --> 01:40:46.482
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:40:47.062 --> 01:40:47.762
[SPEAKER_03]: No, can you really?

01:40:47.782 --> 01:40:55.226
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I couldn't tell how loud it was, but I'm excited to see what people think of path 2's end game once they've, like,

01:40:55.866 --> 01:41:01.769
[SPEAKER_03]: really solidified the balance between motivation and progress.

01:41:02.390 --> 01:41:02.950
[SPEAKER_03]: Does that make sense?

01:41:03.590 --> 01:41:05.932
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, I haven't figured it out yet.

01:41:06.252 --> 01:41:07.352
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not that I don't like it.

01:41:07.392 --> 01:41:11.995
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just I find I get bored of it because I don't really, it's just tedious to run a map.

01:41:12.435 --> 01:41:16.777
[SPEAKER_00]: I find and then you could run into a zone that's huge.

01:41:18.098 --> 01:41:18.919
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, I thought you were done.

01:41:19.179 --> 01:41:19.919
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't mean to drop.

01:41:19.979 --> 01:41:20.199
[SPEAKER_03]: I am.

01:41:20.740 --> 01:41:20.880
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

01:41:21.720 --> 01:41:27.888
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, one of the longest episodes we've ever done, but, uh, awesome because that means it's a great patch.

01:41:28.148 --> 01:41:32.494
[SPEAKER_03]: Like if we just had negative things for us, say it would have been done in an hour, but now we're close to the tour.

01:41:32.514 --> 01:41:33.555
[SPEAKER_00]: We can't wait for you to play out for.

01:41:33.575 --> 01:41:35.377
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm excited for it.

01:41:35.397 --> 01:41:38.841
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm excited to get into Endgame 2 because my builds actually capable now.

01:41:39.602 --> 01:41:49.388
[SPEAKER_03]: uh to the point where I'm already theory crafting something that's completely different because that's the exciting part about these games is you have this idea and it's working.

01:41:49.448 --> 01:42:00.334
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like okay sweet, well what can I do for this and this and then all of a sudden that small path takes you to something that unintentionally needs a complete respect because you know there's you're removing

01:42:05.017 --> 01:42:22.608
[SPEAKER_03]: either a ton of gold or a creating a new character and I am really excited to progress the riddle and even like the small little change that they made like manacosts for spells and minions and curses it all changed so dramatically that I don't have a lot of mana recovery yet and mana flasks are sufficient.

01:42:23.249 --> 01:42:28.732
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I'm doing I have two curses and zombies which in the past we've talked about hasn't been.

01:42:28.832 --> 01:42:31.154
[SPEAKER_03]: So all of them are heavy.

01:42:31.914 --> 01:42:38.659
[SPEAKER_03]: and in a boss fight where and not all boss fights are made with good flask management yet.

01:42:39.519 --> 01:42:47.425
[SPEAKER_03]: Like the non-add boss fights, some of them are good, some of them are not with where you get your refills on your flasks.

01:42:48.685 --> 01:42:55.050
[SPEAKER_03]: I have not come into any man in problems while using my man in flasks in any situation so far.

01:42:55.770 --> 01:43:02.531
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'll come into awkward situations where I don't know I'm out of mana and so I'm all of a sudden I'm casting my characters and not letting me know.

01:43:02.571 --> 01:43:15.433
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's a few little like user tells that need to happen for like, hey, you are actually out of mana, but like all the time with the exception of that, like all I need to do is hit my mana, flask button and I'm set.

01:43:15.933 --> 01:43:18.774
[SPEAKER_03]: And I haven't run into any situations where I'm completely empty yet.

01:43:19.334 --> 01:43:22.835
[SPEAKER_03]: So that goes all the way back to some of those things that were probably already

01:43:24.795 --> 01:43:42.545
[SPEAKER_03]: path of Excel one was horrendous that and path of Excel two is fixing where it's like the combination of enemy mods versus enemy base types and combinations of the different enemy modifiers that can be combined together like clask draining and all that kind of stuff like it's it's working.

01:43:43.086 --> 01:43:43.666
[SPEAKER_03]: It's doing well.

01:43:43.706 --> 01:43:45.567
[SPEAKER_03]: Like there was one thing that I didn't bring up.

01:43:46.328 --> 01:43:47.468
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, hang on.

01:43:48.009 --> 01:43:48.989
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you have three interludes.

01:43:49.029 --> 01:43:49.449
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you two?

01:43:50.010 --> 01:43:50.270
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:43:50.290 --> 01:43:51.371
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't even touched those yet.

01:43:51.491 --> 01:43:51.631
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,

01:43:55.451 --> 01:44:19.083
[SPEAKER_03]: Sol Cipherner has been completely re-modified as an enemy modifier and even like temporarily disabling rogue exiles because they're just not suiting the situation of whatever the circumstances are like they're doing it right they're getting it done and it's way more user-friendly than the original path of exalt one experience and so yeah it's process but uh

01:44:19.543 --> 01:44:23.528
[SPEAKER_03]: The game right now in my opinion is in the best state that it's been since December, so that's good.

01:44:23.808 --> 01:44:35.040
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, good because it's September and you want it to keep getting better, but Jonathan was talking about the game officially is not going to release in its non-beta state until they've had two good positive leaks in a row.

01:44:36.260 --> 01:44:37.821
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that could be a while.

01:44:38.261 --> 01:44:39.961
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know, right?

01:44:40.021 --> 01:44:41.442
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this determines that.

01:44:41.482 --> 01:44:43.883
[SPEAKER_00]: What is that, like, what does that mean?

01:44:43.983 --> 01:44:48.844
[SPEAKER_00]: Two good, what's the, I don't know how they'd, what's turned into happiness.

01:44:48.884 --> 01:44:49.144
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:44:49.604 --> 01:44:50.705
[SPEAKER_03]: But, um,

01:44:51.445 --> 01:44:56.450
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, the game to me is a lot of fun, but it's highly unbalanced.

01:44:56.670 --> 01:45:00.293
[SPEAKER_03]: To me, the game was so unbalanced before that it wasn't fun.

01:45:00.854 --> 01:45:06.499
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's so exciting for me that now the game, yes, it's unbalanced.

01:45:06.519 --> 01:45:07.499
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just moving in a good direction.

01:45:07.520 --> 01:45:10.442
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's not so unbalanced that it's not fun for me.

01:45:10.883 --> 01:45:13.265
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm very excited to keep playing.

01:45:13.305 --> 01:45:15.907
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's honestly what I want to do with my time right now.

01:45:15.967 --> 01:45:16.287
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's.

01:45:17.048 --> 01:45:21.523
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm one person, but if there's other people that feel like me, that's, that's good news for GG.

01:45:22.518 --> 01:45:25.600
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna leave everybody with two comments.

01:45:26.240 --> 01:45:29.262
[SPEAKER_00]: The first one is I'm looking for explanations on both of them.

01:45:29.502 --> 01:45:31.543
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, one of them, the second one's just for fun.

01:45:31.903 --> 01:45:37.846
[SPEAKER_00]: The first one, 25% chance for modifiers on essence monsters in your map to be replaced with essences.

01:45:38.526 --> 01:45:46.411
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna say at one more time, 25% chance for modifiers on essence monsters in your maps to be replaced with essences.

01:45:47.531 --> 01:45:51.836
[SPEAKER_00]: I would like to replace my essence, reward with an essence reward, please.

01:45:52.596 --> 01:45:54.598
[SPEAKER_00]: People have tried to explain to me what that means.

01:45:54.658 --> 01:45:56.981
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw one decent explanation, but it makes no sense.

01:45:57.581 --> 01:45:59.523
[SPEAKER_00]: So I have no idea if this is how this happened.

01:45:59.643 --> 01:46:00.204
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

01:46:01.005 --> 01:46:05.830
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this one I sent to Tyler, because I said, Mark had to be the person that wrote this.

01:46:06.410 --> 01:46:09.472
[SPEAKER_00]: This is in-game Path of Excel too when you want to look up some information.

01:46:09.972 --> 01:46:11.453
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me tell you about efficiency.

01:46:12.073 --> 01:46:16.655
[SPEAKER_00]: Efficiency modifiers act as divisors to the stat they modify.

01:46:16.856 --> 01:46:30.623
[SPEAKER_00]: For example, 50% increased reservation efficiency causes your reservations to be 67% of their base value, 100% increased reservation efficiency causes your reservations to be 50% of their base value, and so on.

01:46:31.223 --> 01:46:35.207
[SPEAKER_00]: reduced reservation efficiency will cause the modifier stat to grow larger instead of smaller.

01:46:35.948 --> 01:46:45.838
[SPEAKER_00]: I was trying to figure out some things, and I read that, and I was like, uh, you actually made me more confused, but my favorite part is the end so on.

01:46:46.099 --> 01:46:49.763
[SPEAKER_00]: As if I understood what you said before, and that just, yeah.

01:46:51.544 --> 01:46:55.068
[SPEAKER_03]: The idea, the concept of it makes sense.

01:46:55.189 --> 01:47:00.835
[SPEAKER_03]: But when you add specific numbers, you have to help the layman get from one number to another number.

01:47:00.995 --> 01:47:01.896
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know that.

01:47:01.916 --> 01:47:03.498
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to have that bridge.

01:47:03.818 --> 01:47:06.862
[SPEAKER_03]: And so 50% obviously equal 67%.

01:47:06.902 --> 01:47:07.943
[SPEAKER_03]: When I read something.

01:47:07.963 --> 01:47:08.564
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it doesn't.

01:47:08.584 --> 01:47:08.984
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't.

01:47:12.488 --> 01:47:13.989
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not how my math works.

01:47:14.229 --> 01:47:17.211
[SPEAKER_03]: When you say it's 50% reduced, that just means half.

01:47:17.511 --> 01:47:29.138
[SPEAKER_03]: That's when it ends to me and I get like, I spent this whole week in my spreadsheet, figuring out how my my temporal change was at 18% when I had this kind of efficiency and I 50% reduced.

01:47:31.039 --> 01:47:51.045
[SPEAKER_03]: efficiency against unique but then 50% reduced slow against techniques like I spent like a huge portion of my time getting ready to say like hey guys your math doesn't work and then I realized what my error was but there also comes a point where okay you're saying this text a number in the game that needs to make sense to me in the game.

01:47:51.505 --> 01:47:52.945
[SPEAKER_03]: I shouldn't need to spend 18 hours offline

01:47:58.467 --> 01:48:01.449
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to calculate, or 50% of 100% is 50.

01:48:01.909 --> 01:48:02.509
[SPEAKER_03]: Period.

01:48:03.070 --> 01:48:05.171
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no, right.

01:48:05.191 --> 01:48:11.734
[SPEAKER_03]: So when they're talking about numbers in the game, those numbers need to reflect what makes sense to me.

01:48:12.355 --> 01:48:12.535
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

01:48:12.575 --> 01:48:13.756
[SPEAKER_03]: So let's, so.

01:48:14.796 --> 01:48:21.220
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to sound weird, but if 50%, like so they have the increased versus more, right?

01:48:21.701 --> 01:48:28.845
[SPEAKER_03]: Where it's like you multiply the default value by this percentage and then you multiply that total by this percentage.

01:48:29.706 --> 01:48:32.088
[SPEAKER_03]: That makes sense if you already know it exists.

01:48:32.848 --> 01:48:40.491
[SPEAKER_03]: But the number that you show the user should ignore what the equation does and tell the user what the total is going to be.

01:48:41.131 --> 01:48:49.974
[SPEAKER_03]: So yes, that aspect of less or more might be 50%, but you need to show the user that this is what it's going to equal.

01:48:49.994 --> 01:48:52.555
[SPEAKER_03]: Like users for the sake of theory crafting in game.

01:48:52.595 --> 01:48:58.957
[SPEAKER_03]: If you want users to be able to not rely on guides, just want to use guides, but not need a guide.

01:48:59.517 --> 01:49:01.638
[SPEAKER_03]: Users need to be able to do math in their head.

01:49:02.238 --> 01:49:09.422
[SPEAKER_03]: Even just the basics, even if it's like, oh shoot, that's 53 or 47% instead of 50% okay, fine, that's good enough.

01:49:09.982 --> 01:49:12.503
[SPEAKER_03]: But a 50% equals 18% or 67%.

01:49:12.843 --> 01:49:16.285
[SPEAKER_03]: You're like, why are you showing me numbers at a hole?

01:49:16.845 --> 01:49:20.267
[SPEAKER_03]: Just say greater, little bit more, slightly more, like it.

01:49:20.767 --> 01:49:23.028
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't show me numbers if the numbers don't add up.

01:49:23.248 --> 01:49:32.319
[SPEAKER_03]: And I get that the numbers add up in the background, but unless you're going to show me what that background is, like, just make it user-friendly, right?

01:49:32.700 --> 01:49:34.302
[SPEAKER_00]: So I hear you, is my point.

01:49:34.722 --> 01:49:35.803
[SPEAKER_00]: I was completely confused.

01:49:35.823 --> 01:49:40.970
[SPEAKER_00]: They're almost everything you said there, because I just, I don't want to, I don't want to do math, I don't want it.

01:49:41.410 --> 01:49:45.493
[SPEAKER_00]: And all I was trying to do was I was doing the abyssal thing or I threw a thing into a pit.

01:49:46.033 --> 01:49:50.677
[SPEAKER_00]: And I got three options and I read something percent efficiency of skills attacks.

01:49:50.697 --> 01:49:52.438
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, okay, well, how will that work?

01:49:52.458 --> 01:49:53.098
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I read that.

01:49:53.118 --> 01:49:53.939
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I fuck that.

01:49:53.979 --> 01:49:54.679
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not picking that one.

01:49:55.040 --> 01:49:56.060
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what that means.

01:49:56.461 --> 01:49:59.823
[SPEAKER_03]: When you're explaining it, it needs to make sense at the end of it.

01:50:00.183 --> 01:50:10.375
[SPEAKER_03]: And so for me, for example, when with my curse math, I was trying to figure out why my reduction was equaling 18% when I was supposed to be doing 47% for 49%.

01:50:10.435 --> 01:50:14.380
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, I should have been around like the 24-25% mark, but my unique bosses were 18% less.

01:50:20.247 --> 01:50:34.182
[SPEAKER_03]: And I forgot that not only is there a unique reduction, right, like curses are 50% reduced against unique enemies, but there's also because I was doing temporal change, there's a slow reduction, and there's a slow reduction of 50% as well.

01:50:34.663 --> 01:50:41.390
[SPEAKER_03]: But because that's not all just stipulated in the game, and I can't just go to my advanced info and find out.

01:50:42.151 --> 01:50:45.634
[SPEAKER_03]: I can only pause the game and find out my information against uniques.

01:50:46.094 --> 01:50:50.937
[SPEAKER_03]: Everything else, like I can't pause the game and find out stuff against rarers or magic enemies.

01:50:51.598 --> 01:50:57.202
[SPEAKER_03]: So, I love, I absolutely love that they are actually explaining this stuff in game.

01:50:57.862 --> 01:50:58.523
[SPEAKER_03]: I love it.

01:50:58.803 --> 01:50:59.744
[SPEAKER_03]: It is awesome.

01:51:00.084 --> 01:51:03.226
[SPEAKER_03]: But when you get there, it needs to make sense to me.

01:51:03.686 --> 01:51:04.667
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, explain it to me.

01:51:04.767 --> 01:51:06.348
[SPEAKER_03]: I have the reason you're explaining it.

01:51:06.969 --> 01:51:09.491
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you have to get

01:51:10.291 --> 01:51:14.133
[SPEAKER_03]: it sucks because once you cross that bridge of explaining things, now it needs to make sense.

01:51:14.914 --> 01:51:34.625
[SPEAKER_03]: So, like now, eventually I got it because I realized there was two quote-unquote more multiplications to make instead of just one, right, as opposed to just the increases and the one more, but still like it took me a lot of offline time to figure out why my 47% temporal chains equal to 18%.

01:51:35.566 --> 01:51:36.066
[SPEAKER_03]: And it shouldn't.

01:51:36.586 --> 01:51:37.947
[SPEAKER_03]: I should just be able to find that in the game.

01:51:38.518 --> 01:51:39.279
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree with you.

01:51:39.299 --> 01:51:41.120
[SPEAKER_00]: The stuff that they're showing in game is great.

01:51:42.001 --> 01:51:42.841
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just some of it.

01:51:43.101 --> 01:51:46.704
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm an idiot and can't understand what they mean and so on.

01:51:47.425 --> 01:51:49.426
[SPEAKER_03]: But that's the point of explaining it.

01:51:49.987 --> 01:51:50.527
[SPEAKER_03]: It's to us.

01:51:51.007 --> 01:51:51.688
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not to them.

01:51:52.208 --> 01:51:53.789
[SPEAKER_03]: It needs to make sense to us.

01:51:54.150 --> 01:51:55.531
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure it makes sense to somebody.

01:51:55.551 --> 01:51:58.013
[SPEAKER_03]: So hopefully somebody would be like, well, actually.

01:51:58.953 --> 01:52:16.834
[SPEAKER_03]: I can give you the math my spreadsheets like up to date now and like after I figured that equation out I said screw UPUE I am making this work and it is my whole build revolves around it So math better be right because the last time I posted and Mark responded about my math my math was totally wrong

01:52:17.154 --> 01:52:17.974
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't do that again.

01:52:18.414 --> 01:52:19.175
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

01:52:19.295 --> 01:52:31.258
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see what the options were, but with the thing was when I'm trying to make a choice between three options and you say 8% increase efficiency of attacks, it's cool that we modify, I don't know what that means.

01:52:31.458 --> 01:52:39.321
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, like I know that it's going to make the cost of my attack be better, but like I already know that 8% is not really a percent.

01:52:39.381 --> 01:52:43.102
[SPEAKER_00]: It's some magical something that I have to figure out the rest of it for.

01:52:43.802 --> 01:52:44.022
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

01:52:44.142 --> 01:52:45.383
[SPEAKER_03]: Same thing applies to exposure.

01:52:45.403 --> 01:52:48.483
[SPEAKER_03]: There's tons of like increased exposure efficiency on the tree.

01:52:49.084 --> 01:52:54.325
[SPEAKER_03]: Can you somewhere show me what that would be when I'm highlighting the node on the tree?

01:52:54.545 --> 01:52:55.105
[SPEAKER_03]: That would be great.

01:52:55.646 --> 01:52:55.866
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

01:52:55.906 --> 01:52:58.086
[SPEAKER_03]: Does my 25% turn to 28% or does my 20% turn to 28% to 25% turn to 30?

01:52:58.146 --> 01:52:58.987
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you do for me?

01:53:03.628 --> 01:53:25.621
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's that extra little stuff, but that extra step of just letting me know what the final number is going to be if I don't need to know the why if I know the final number or if you're not going to show me the final number I need to know the why and the how right you got to pick which one you're going to do otherwise there's no point in explaining it just let me to monsters word just let me smash things.

01:53:26.410 --> 01:53:54.422
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, three, let's wrap this up forever Excel 300 and I'm just naked tags, Tyler record days, patrons will catch you and after dark, everybody else will see next week and three hundred and ten, hopefully you're enjoying rise of the abyssal, right, abyssal secrets of the mercenary, I don't know what people think about four because I'm, yeah, I'm excited to hear your thoughts on it because I really, really like to act for, well, I just spent eight hours, um,

01:53:55.320 --> 01:53:56.740
[SPEAKER_03]: like going through the drain water.

01:53:56.760 --> 01:54:00.181
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god dude, that's not been made better.

01:54:00.201 --> 01:54:02.582
[SPEAKER_00]: That zone is awful.

01:54:03.022 --> 01:54:08.063
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I just found another eight hours in the area after that.

01:54:08.283 --> 01:54:09.723
[SPEAKER_03]: Now that I finally drained the water.

01:54:09.743 --> 01:54:14.965
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, when you go downstairs, I killed the fat cannibal.

01:54:16.365 --> 01:54:41.251
[SPEAKER_03]: It just wants to be somehow had an idol within itself that will allow me access to Dorianny Well, do you just have to go to the fireperson and then you're I don't know what you're doing a bit you're like you're in a hours an hour as I go I keep forgetting what's in between so I had no idea how much time at the fireperson the Viper person I'm hoping to have experienced some a fact for within a week

01:54:41.991 --> 01:54:46.373
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how Jesus you would take that if they want to take that take that for what it's worth.

01:54:46.593 --> 01:54:47.733
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm having a great time.

01:54:47.753 --> 01:54:51.415
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, so yeah, there's an awkward silence.

01:54:51.515 --> 01:54:53.115
[SPEAKER_03]: I am having a great time.

01:54:53.195 --> 01:54:54.396
[SPEAKER_03]: I am having a great time.

01:54:54.856 --> 01:54:56.697
[SPEAKER_03]: It's nice to actually level.

01:54:57.497 --> 01:55:02.643
[SPEAKER_03]: past act one, please still fix act one with minions GG, but I am having a great time.

01:55:02.683 --> 01:55:09.690
[SPEAKER_03]: Like when I'm sitting down to play Path Vex, I'll sure there's the typical grumbling, but I get this beta, I am loving it.

01:55:10.051 --> 01:55:11.672
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I am having a really good time at it.

01:55:11.913 --> 01:55:14.996
[SPEAKER_03]: This is an easy game to recommend as long as people know it's beta.

01:55:15.773 --> 01:55:17.174
[SPEAKER_00]: I had our music to the end of this.

01:55:17.234 --> 01:55:19.355
[SPEAKER_00]: We may have just talked through all of Camille's song.

01:55:19.835 --> 01:55:23.277
[SPEAKER_00]: We may have gone through the entire Crusader song, which we're still using, it's the best.

01:55:23.797 --> 01:55:30.500
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