The Last Druid of Vaal(inor)?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to Forever, Axel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just an AK tags.

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[SPEAKER_00]: T-bone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: T-bone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: T-bone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what my mom called me when I was born.

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[SPEAKER_00]: T-bones in the house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was so embarrassed that now I just call myself Tyler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The record of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all the same T-bone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, this is episode two, 321.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, is it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, I just started with it too, but look at us into the threes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All good things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All good things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my goodness, my phone's like freaking out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All of a sudden, oh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I add.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's my fault.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, my wife was going to be busy doing gaming on the other side, and then I told her, I sent her a tour of the video.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We love, of course, from anybody from Borderlands 2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't played anything after Borderlands 2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's one of my concussion stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But well, Borderlands 2 is when we start realizing it, but yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, push through cut some stuff, obviously I had to do a tour again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's not enough sound clips out there of Torg.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I made a YouTube clip from another video and then sent a tour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I told her shit to watch it before she started playing her game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And my fault, because then I didn't put my phone on D&D, because I wasn't expecting anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, because she's upstairs gaming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So who else's gonna message?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, uh, I'll tell you, she's like, oh, awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you're the best at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then those my fall, my fall, my fall, my fall, but I'll get things right, Torg, Torg, live in it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Explosions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Big shout to your Patreon things, everybody who resubbed up this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Patreon gets you access to afterdark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's our podcast after the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And digital high five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a really good one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know how sometimes like you shake someone's hand and they like have get in there or you grab too early or they're like too timid and they don't let you get like right into that thumb crotch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know thumb crack thumb crotch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and it's like, it's the worst, but that there's like, you know, you go to church, and you shake hands with someone who's obviously a chiropractor, and they absolutely destroy your hand, but they're fine with it because they think that, I don't know, it'll be healed or something like that, but really your hands just destroyed for life because their hands are so strong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, our high fives, virtual ones, are the perfect balance between them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know those were handshakes, but our high fives, they're not, they're not on the weekend, they're not on the strong end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They sting in the perfect spot for the exact amount of time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Couldn't have said it better myself, Ty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So sign up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, did you know December 6th is the early access release celebration?

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[SPEAKER_00]: According to my calculations, so it's been a year now this coming week before our next episode before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess that's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like Saturday or some.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So before our next recording comes home early access for path 2 has now been out officially for a year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's actually after it's our next week's episode that would, oh, we were, okay, that's, yeah, it's a weird spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's how I have to do all the stuff I have to do like a 10 day rotation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so before the next episode comes, I would after this one for the next one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The beta beta?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, not a beta.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Early access has been out for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you know also that it's American Thanksgiving so happy that they, you guys are a little late, but you get it still.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Way to jam it super close to Christmas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So close to Christmas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thinking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, I got a kind of kind of say though, like I'm a giant, no, my son's born January.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm February.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My daughter's March.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My wife is April.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're kind of done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: December is just for right Christmas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have like our five, but then it's like seven months of freedom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know, maybe they got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the like I'd hate to admit it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd hate to say that the Americans got it, but maybe they got something there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Except the Thanksgiving isn't like a gift given no, but it's like a mandatory got to hang it with family that maybe you don't want to think so you get that all done And you're good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a lot of family real close.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but that is done, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like for the bandaid off twice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I like the October thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, me too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess, but I like my family

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I like my family from a distance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like all of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What about without alcohol?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I like my family.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My family is great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't like all of them all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: At the same time, within a certain time span.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you supposed to talk about?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like let's say you see like there are a lot of families where they still only see each other once twice three times a year if that right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like okay, so you hang out in November or sorry, I jump yeah in November and it's like half a month a month later You're like so anything new?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, how the business proposal go oh it's two and three months

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, cool, nailed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You get you watching football.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I think that's what they do, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't all around football.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Isn't Thanksgiving football?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like that one sport that I know of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know any other sports that only last for like four months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's American football.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of American football.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that your time?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: October.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, September, depending on how much of a die-hard you are all the way to the first week of February, because who says February?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, you can tell there's nothing to talk about path of X-all eyes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How's your week?

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[SPEAKER_00]: out of great week, man, kids are starting to get sick to his the season, but we're good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Daughter's starting to cough a lot throughout the week, but uh, Justin, it's almost like I'm excited for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I was talking in the past week that, you know, like it's we've been on some good stretches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously we're going to get sick every now and then, but we're not getting like every illness that now comes through school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But she's 12.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I don't know what it's like in other countries, but in Canada, like the majority of the directions, like it's really difficult to find good situations for three, 12 year olds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then the second they hit 12, you don't care if they're the smallest 12 year old on the planet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're taking that biblically and you're like, yes, I can do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all hard now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now all of it's available.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So my daughter's sick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: do you want to say that's right so I get excited as a parent when she's sick but now we're good where I don't weird that not abnormal because I'm sure every parent goes through this but we're at that weird stage of

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[SPEAKER_00]: My son and daughter, their Christmas lists are really short.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My son, my daughter is like, because of the kind of person she is, she just wants, but she wants, and that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and in the last, like, she doesn't really fluctuate, you know, her favorite color doesn't change every week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It changes every couple years, kind of thing

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[SPEAKER_00]: his Christmas list will change a hundred times over, but it's still only like four things too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we're like, I hope it like close.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, two, three, four, and then get something in to Walmart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Got stuff to brush a teeth and oh, oh my wife, when it comes to, okay, hang on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Christmas talk, family members, ear muffs for Santa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's probably the proper jingle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, fast forward five minutes about Santa talk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so my wife does the away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll give it five four three two one just in case there is a douche driver on the road I know I know right like we're like ear muffs for Santa talk, but we'll say douche around the kids anyway

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, my wife does the stockings and that's like her tradition like I'm not even allowed to buy stuff for the stockings when she goes out to do Christmas stockings shopping I'm not allowed to come because a I never approve on how much she spends on stocks I can see she's supposed to go she's supposed to go to the dollar store or word ever or like if you find something at Walmart supposed to be like this

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like even if it's like 15 bucks it's supposed to be like all this great stuff they could use for a while I don't know you know what I mean, but like it's like 200 bucks a stalking and there's a stupid orange at the bottom or like it so anyway we have like we're now at just this thing where we're not gonna get divorced over We've agreed we're not going to but

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[SPEAKER_00]: it's something that I'm allowed to make fun of her for and she's allowed to tell me to stick it for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess you can agree with her, but that's a boat part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's always Christmas is always unfortunately or unknowingly expensive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's always it's really hard to stay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know there's hard it gets hard as you have multiple kids too because then you're trying to make sure you're even and you're yeah definitely and I mean well, I mean I only have two kids you have four so it's different from like you have like an eighty year old and a four year old but mm-hmm

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[SPEAKER_00]: the reason I'm bringing up Christmas now is basically because we have a January kid right like I was saying like a birthday and ever since COVID it's like stores haven't figured out post COVID stuff yet or maybe maybe it's just like that's how long it takes for the trickle effect of all these things to to figure themselves out but stores are still empty in January.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we've we've learned to shop for all of his birthday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, just to make sure that we're getting stuff that he he actually wants not just some stupid shirt that maybe he'll like who cares what's he going to get excited for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and so for the kids, we just kind of have this unwritten rule now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, they know about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where we live in the world, America thinks giving is obviously very impactful, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Black Friday, we like that, that is our market, where our markets are completely intertwined.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't know what it's like in the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It started a few years back, but yes, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Complete his seat into Canada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so basically for our kids,

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[SPEAKER_00]: their Christmas lists are locked in and the order like we have it organized in priority.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's locked in and as soon as like we start ordering for black Friday and each is just a make our reflected for their birthday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's honestly it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And for my poor daughter like that's a that's a March wait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like my my son who just has to wait less than a month barely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going through the habit like it's a tough year for us as parents because to me, like when you're doing gifts, like just because gifts are different than birthday or Christmas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, there's something about the excitement of unwrapping something and it's like as a Christian guy, you're always thinking of long term, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: As like a Bible guy, you're always thinking like the long term value of everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just about the media moment, but for me a gift,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually don't care about the long-term value of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all about that immediate hype.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, moment is amazing with watching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, it's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this isn't going to be the year for my son.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's not because like even like there's one thing you had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You had a camera.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the middle shoot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I can't talk to now he can't listen to this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll try to remember that he can't listen to this until well forever But he had a camera and like just like a hundred dollar thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't want to get them phones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We want to like give the cameras they can take their videos and stuff with that and

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had that at the top of his list for forever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we waited until Black Friday because we knew we were going to get it and so we got it awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like 50 bucks off and like no joke.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's in between the order and arriving and he bumps it to like almost near the bottom of his Christmas list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, fuck, fuck, fuck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe then that because it was too expensive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he's just not like his buddies and him aren't into it anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so then he's like, but his bay blade's deity, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The two bay, bay, bay, bay, bay, bay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bay, bay, bay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, they're still like second, third and fourth on his list, but he hasn't talked about them once.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Once, and I'm like, oh, I know that that's there by accident.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've asked him to go through this list of million times, but he hasn't talked about Bayblades once since they've been on the list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, so we have them for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, that's going to be, you know, this and Bayblades are timeless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They last for us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Literally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just one of those where we're getting him stuff he wants, but he's at that stage where things are flippy flops.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He flops.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he half kid half a doll, like he's ordering from the adult menu at the restaurant, even though he can't finish the food.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The cost is twice as much and that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, just that awkward thing where I don't think he's going to get that magical excitement from opening stuff and he'll be disappointed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Come March.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He'll love every single one of his gifts, but that's not what I think Christmas is about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not the like the crappy material aspect of Greg gives under the tree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all about the moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So...

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[SPEAKER_00]: as a parent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you'll still get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a stressful week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a stressful way to try to figure things out balance each get the kids the same quantity, but also the same dollar value in their mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, all good things, all good things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How you been, man?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like I took up like 15 minutes there and I didn't even mean to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just chatting away a time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: However, yeah, it was better than the last week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a busy week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like

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[SPEAKER_01]: productive for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had a moment this week where I went to bed and it was the first time I actually in my head was feeling really good about some of the stuff that's going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It made a huge difference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Holy crap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did I ever have a good sleep that night?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's cool to be aware of that though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was weird to be aware of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I actually

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then just gone to bed and had a great sleep, so only one, because the next day, things went sideways, but it wasn't really good sleep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, yeah, the week was pretty fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We finished the first season of True Detectives with McConaughey and Woody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what do you think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've heard nothing but fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was so good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't I didn't realize that it's kind of like Fargo Where it's a different story each season different actors whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know the Fargo TV show was like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've only seen the movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, the TV shows like that too So all that they may be a more intertwined and it doesn't seem like true detective will be at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a very it's a very very well written

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well shot, it's like Matthew McConaughey's character is like that's exactly how I think of him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just slow talking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I'm saying weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and like weird things like talking, you know, about the space around us and the, you know, like just I don't know how to describe what he's the same, but it was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We both liked it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you ever heard any of his sermons like when he's preaching in front of a church or anything like that as a guest speaker?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but I've heard him like read books.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, he does that too, but his sermons are hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He does a great job of incorporating like materialistic jokes with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does he speak?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's been a guest speaker sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I'm going to watch him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want you to just, you know, you're talking about the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so anyway, we did watch that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We attempted to do some Christmas shopping, Christina and I went out, I took, so I took Logan to work one day and I'm like, all right, I got time, I'm by myself, it's just taking Logan, I'll drop him off at work, then I'll go, so we had to some Christmas shopping,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jesus, I don't like people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't I couldn't do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I walked through the mall and I'm like, no I don't want this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not what's gonna happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And here's what made it even worse So I will go through the mall and I don't buy a thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was so just I just wanted to get out of there I walk straight out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew I had to get a gift for a nephew from Home Depot I'm like, all right cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go to help Home Depot

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[SPEAKER_01]: I went into Home Depot and I don't have ever done this before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I walked in, thought for a second, I walked straight to the spot where I needed to grab the two things and I bought them and I left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was in my Depot for like three minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just the worst feeling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's sucked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to explore, you want to be like, oh, that's the price of dirt now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool, I don't need any, but now I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are many people who are so frustrated, and I'm like, no, I can't do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm driving around town right now is a absolute waste of time, because there's construction everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, so anyway, we did do some Christmas shopping, which was, it was nice to go out for the two of us to go out more than anything, but yeah, it's, uh, don't see what I'm with Christina.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we, I was trying to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you wouldn't be allowed to grocery shop by yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I shut up, I can, I can't shut up like you would be capable, but that it would just screw up the balance of what she had already planned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I, she'd have to work around your, I do some, I don't want to encourage us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, not grocery shop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did I say grocery shop?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but what do you mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you mean, I'm in a business shop?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, well, she would probably rather I was more involved in it, but I can't I don't want to like give me send me links on Amazon no problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't click that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know how to do that one add to cut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The reason that I said grocery shopping was because like you were talking about like traffic and all that and everything is on for it is off as you know and her four days off are Friday to Monday now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we need to go grocery shopping, and I'm like, no, we're just gonna start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're waiting on the day like next Tuesday when she's off next Tuesday And then we'll go so that's where my brain was, but I didn't want to interrupt you, but now I did because I said the wrong So Christmas shopping the two to get out of the road.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was nice to go out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We did that and Yeah, it's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I played Introuted so I was working for it

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had it, I've played it years ago, and I was just looking for something to fill my time, you know, and I have some time to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, that game is good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Holy crap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're ever looking for like an RPG exploration, massive world, cool-based building, it's extremely well done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just an indie game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who the developer is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, keen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the name of the developer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but not the same keen that does space engineers, but uh, man, it's so good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so I'm having so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just it's the scale and scope of the game is so massive that you just feel like

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine that you're never going to get everything done, but there's just, yeah, like you could you can go and explore you can just chill and build a base and it's got like MPCs that you're you're rescuing and bringing back to the base you build and it's kind of like a base building in where you're there's no limitation at all that you can just do whatever you want anyway, I was playing that so like the whole two sectors if I wanted to you could hold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I must just be a thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody knows how to hold two sectors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably really heavy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're your left shoulder strengthen your right shoulder when you're holding one sector.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think the technology's there yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, two sectors, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're still working on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, yeah, it was a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just so big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I started on a brand new save and they introduced water and the ability to actually go underwater.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just, it's insane how big the scope is and how massive the game is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the game is ginormous and they're you're not loading.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no loading screens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're just, let's

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have your quest lines and you're trying to figure out this shroud that has taken over the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're trying to determine like what's causing it, who's behind it, how to control it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And but then in the meantime, you're also doing quests for all these NPCs that join your town and you're all of their quests are actually meaningful in the sense that they will unlock more things for you to do with your town and for you to progress your character and to

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just, it's a really well done for those NPC quests being knowing if it wasn't your first play through you think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, because no, no, because they all have a purpose to the sort of end goal of building your town and getting the best stuff, and you're traveling throughout the world anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, no, I don't remember them because they did them so long ago, so it's hard to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're definitely don't feel like repeats for me, but yeah, it's a fun game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then somebody in Discord, you guys were talking about tower defense game, that tower, the tower game?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, 10 years ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know, it was a bit of go, but at the time, then somebody mentioned a game called SpaceX YZ.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh, what is that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just went and looked it up on my phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I have been playing that when I have like down time on my phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what they're called.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They may be the rogue like where are you like go to battle and then when you lose you kind of build yourself up again, and then you go back in and you do it again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was weeks good, life's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Things are good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's a great time to play that kind of genre when you want to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not when you're trying to ascend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, sorry too soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's only been a year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They still have time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They can change it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we'll get something out of this morning to test your PG.

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[SPEAKER_00]: More like a chess event, that would be great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know what Harry Potter did in their video games?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They kept them RPG.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when you have Ronald Weasley sacrificing himself in the game of chess so that his teammates can move on, they didn't force it in the game in some of the most important aspects of Hogwarts Legacy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there's some kind of story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can just go by a Harry Potter chess set if you feel like Harry Potter, Cheth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or you could play it in the game because you just want to be engrossed in the story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: not to unlaw the most important aspect of character creation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see lawn talk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's not really any lawn talk, but I am going to need to start decorate a mild side house for Christmas now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tis the winter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you going to?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Turn it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now we do it every year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of decorating, it's not decorating, but we needed to, so our hood fan busted in above the stove.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I need to get that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to get our electrical fireplace checked out because it's smell funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like I'm always nervous about everything burning down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when dust is burning, you know, just because you haven't used something for a long time, I always get nervous about something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not hooked up where your place does that every time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, but it was smell too strong to the point where like Aaron always makes fun of me say, there's nothing burning like she wouldn't even like she's not even conscious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she'll wake up to say there's nothing burning out of your fine, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But even when we turn this fireplace on, she's like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get a check.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we had like a whole bunch of other minor things we wanted to get done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we called now electrician got them to do it all at once.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But one of them, this one was frivolous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I am a cheap skate, but I'm so excited for this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's already installed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know that they were a thing, but they are an astronaut astrological light switch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, it turns on my outside light at dawn and on and off at dawn and dusk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, buddy, that hasn't been around for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, I did already.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just thought that you had to like have like a light sensor outside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then have it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I didn't know they had any that you take it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't dare you are in the world, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Your location and then it just automatically knows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The switch itself, it does that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See, that's the same programmable options, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to get one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The one that makes it turn on and off automatically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What would you mean, 16, 4?

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of different kind of traveling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I'm here for illegal activity, program 2, and it just flashes on and off every minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, that one makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, at least I know my Christmas lights are on up.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, they're permanent, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They built the low rate permanently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, you saw a video before we started recording.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, we got this week in Pewey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did watch a video I hadn't watched, uh, it was a called the Pew.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's called the fact fact of the vial or some fact of the vial.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a, but it's a Pewey to leak.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the thing though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't explain anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Aaron had the same question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So last week we get a thing the last of the drew is a 45 second video or whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this one we get another video and it's like the was the something now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The packed of the valve.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I thought we were like, did you guys already change your mind?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like when we symbolize like, it is POE2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they are planning to do leagues with P, I don't know if I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see how it goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, the same thing that they've been doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the problem is like, they're trying to advertise to new people, not to us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously they're advertising to us too, but we're going to play it no matter what.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: when you're advertising to new people you have to like there's good like this is so confusing to somebody that's not familiar with Path of Exile.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you have two names for your league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You did technically have two names for the league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Other people don't know that like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, point two is called something point three is called something point four is called something and then they like point four one point four two is always going to be last of the druids and then point four one is going to have a different point four two is going to have a different name like they don't know how long secrets of the Atlas has been or the other names that path what like they don't get that so all you have are to just like blanked type blanket titles

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was somebody that doesn't mean anything to anybody unless you've already played path 1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it is very clearly pointed towards people who understand GGG's format because we've not done this in POE 2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yes, I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they have not created this format yet in POE 2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I don't really mind because maybe that's the goal that they're trying to set.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think my concern is more why, like why during an early access why do both, I mean, this is great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have this content.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like, find, I don't know, I just find out because we talked about this last week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: about the idea of, like, will they have leagues in POE 2?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't make sense because everything they add in POE 2 is core.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no, like, whatever they're doing with this stuff that they just did, yeah, this cannot be not core.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, every single thing we see in this, sorry, fate of the vowel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did I say that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pack the vowel?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything in this fate of the valve has to be core.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any sense for them to make any

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How currency looks in past two compared to path one like that Valorb.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just torment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They do look good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I just thought it was funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just funny how they advertised it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can feel like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was a POE one thing first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For a minute, I was like, are we really promoting the path of Excel one next league?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's two months away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Three months away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The, the funny thing, and obviously it doesn't matter because when the game comes out, it comes out when the content comes out, we play it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So who cares?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll, they go about it for people like you and myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they don't really have the time to have like a point four and then a point one like a point four point one point four point two point four point three because of the

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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of content that still needs to come out, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this isn't going to be the last major update they have because they have all these classes that still need to come out the campaigns not even close to being finished, like item basis, like there's still massive chunks of the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that aren't out yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what's the difference between a point two, three, in a point four and then something like a three point one and a three point two in terms of leagues?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they're obviously titleing like the big picture and then the every four leagues every four months picture, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're titleing them different or like subtitles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's unlike they don't really have the time though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you only have three more leagues after this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's 2027.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it going to be 0.4 for the whole year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, the next one coming out would be 0.5.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I get that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But so then why have the double title, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand the league behind that part confuses me because I would have just thought this was the whatever drew it league with some vowel content or some whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it just is odd to me because in purely one's history, league content did not always go core.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in purely two currently,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be in a scene where it's not to be caught, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's no way it's not going core.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, yeah, I mean, cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be sweet, so Val content.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, drew it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Drew it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully the other drew it Templar individual as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is my secret one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There we get to see the announcement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The reveal is December 4th, so Thursday, which I appreciate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's 11 o'clock hour time, which is nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll give us three hours until the kids start coming home from school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe watch the Q&A this time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is on the Thursday, sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll be able to talk about it next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am excited to see it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, in the end, I'm going to play it no matter what.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What else happened this was this was like hype for the reveal?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I was wondering where all the teasers were, but obviously you can't have too many.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, because they want to reveal as much, but I was surprised to get absolutely nothing this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there really wasn't that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, like so now we have one more week coming up and this is going to be where they're like, oh well, here's all the QL while stuff we're adding and here's some of the changes that we don't

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I was surprised there wasn't any of that this week, because they came out with a video last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we talked going to drew a video last week and then there was nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they just went quiet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's going to happen is we're going to end the recording.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they're just going to like, crap, a bunch of stuff out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it is technically Friday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they're starting and they do revolve around a lot of their marketing stuff around the Pacific time zone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Except that it would be Saturday today, so I don't they have had stuff come out on Fridays, so I don't know Like if they do that, they plan stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They plan the reveals like yeah, so I definitely think we'll get some stuff this weekend Just bad timing for us Anything else I see Uber-boss kill events.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing Keeper of the flame vault They did not accept our this week for us There is no answer is that

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[SPEAKER_01]: Depends how you where you're from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'm from Canada.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Has it dead and who does the S?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that more like so there you okay?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They say it more with the S too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or that's you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Reds you Okay, cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they had a game show recap and then wow that's actually it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, cool Like after they say hey druids and they're like also crickets

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's good though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fun for us to get it all in a week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I bought Hitman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You buy Hitman what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: World of assassination.

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[SPEAKER_00]: On what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've rebranded a billion times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they had hitman, sign of the SaaS, which is number two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they had contracts, which like they really wanted a third game, but that was basically just the best of one and two, and then like two extra missions contracts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then they had hitman, absolution.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the storyline really got awesome, but absolution was stupid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They added some cool ideas, but like the

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then that was the same time that they also screwed up Tomb Raider and so that company that makes them both apologized and said yeah we're going to get back to the core basics and they revamped both games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then they rebranded and then they just came out with like it's kind of like Call of Duty all of a sudden one day they just decided to be like no all the other Call of Duty is no matter what now this one's Call of Duty one even though they already have a Call of Duty

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they went through, like, some, I don't know, company crisis in the middle of it all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so Hitman won, came out for free, could get, like, the first mission for free, and then they tried to do things episodically, kind of, like, how, oh, tell-tale games, you should do their stuff by the games episodically, or the missions episodically, until, like, later on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they also try to have live events, so if you like bought the game, you could do the live event that was only available for like two or three months, and then it would disappear forever kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they kind of panicked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't like that there was like content that people couldn't access anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So people would pay for this exclusive access.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they just made it available in the game of the year edition waiter and that really pissed people off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they did the same kind of screwups with Hitman too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they came out with Hitman three, but they're like, no, we don't really like how this is all working.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then they came out with Hitman World of Assassination.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and that's hitman one, hitman two, hitman three, all in one game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I already bought hitman one and hitman two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know what they said?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only option you have is hitman world of assassination.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't even buy it the other games anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you bought world of assassination.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Black Friday, so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going through hitman one, two, three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have to play through one and two and then three?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, in fact, they don't even have a tracker for you when you're going through

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you finish a camp, if you finish a mission, and then you quit to dinner or whatever, and you come back and play tomorrow, it doesn't tell you where you left off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just have to remember, and then go select one of the next missions in the campaign list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no mission tracker?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nope.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know talk about a wicked rebrandant as it makes any sense why all this rebranding of like, oh, we don't like how we dealt with hitman one and then oh, we don't like how we dealt with hitman two and oh, hitman three came out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, shoot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not going to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to it's all just one big happy game and then all of our expanses are going to come up for the one game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what it's listed as in my like actual games when I go to select the game on Xbox hitman three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm loving it though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love I love that game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm having such a difficult time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I just want to go around and snipe people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't care if people are panicking because somebody's head just got blown off at the dinner table.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just care if they know that it's me or not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can I just get into the way?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to walk around and people have no idea who I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like the voice of the body.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to walk right past and be like a five star silent assassin rating doesn't accommodate that and I have a difficult time with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh dang so you can you because you're shooting on you your bodies can't be found you can only kill the targets can you shoot?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if people don't see you shoot, and if people don't find the body, but if they see somebody get shot, you don't get your five-star assassin rating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm having such a difficult time between playing the way that I want to, but then I get to the end, and I get to my rating, and I'm like, I can fix that though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was my week that you need to snipe really for that because I loved that remember when it was quite I think I was dead the first one I have played every single one of them for at least 15 minutes but some longer but they yeah it was the third one they screwed up right like they made it very action oriented as you would go from one mission to another or like two snipe spot they kind of made it

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was too much like running gun to get to a sniper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was not the way I wanted to play it like in the first one where you're crawling through whatever you can crawl through and it is you are going to snipe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to snipe everyone dies by a sniper and then get to watch the bullet like that one and the skull right the x-ray vision right through the wall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had a co-op one we played was it the original x-ray vision box one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You remember which device?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, it sounds good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It probably sucked about man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The co-op that always sticks out to me was siege.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it siege?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or was the game that we used to always just play against the terrorist?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, could we beat the round?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Could we beat the zone?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that was the old school version of Rainbow Six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the Rainbow Six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it wasn't siege, because it was the new version that it was called Rainbow Six Vegas, and then Rainbow Six Vegas too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was it and you would be able to repel down and you just don't be a terrorist Tons, they'd have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'd play on the hardest difficulty and just play over and I don't know if we ever actually fully beat it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like in all the times we played, you think so?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're pretty awesome, but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You think we wouldn't, I think we would have kept playing if we couldn't beat it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, probably.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were going back then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we were both very stubborn about the fact that we wanted to try and beat down the heart, so on, which is not normal for us at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still don't remember me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What was that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was an Xbox or how did we play it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: 360.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and says this is what you get when you come up with a teaser called Blast of the Druids And you don't follow it up with anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just leave us with waiting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it is, like, I am excited to see what they come out with because something that GGG is always done a good job at is like obviously there's things that we laugh about or like why would you do this or anything like that, but whatever, like you would get that with any decision with any people, but one thing that they've always been amazing at is their creativity, yeah, like their ability to solve a problem more to like

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[SPEAKER_00]: men manipulate it so that it's not a niche yeah i don't know like they just they're they're very creative with some of the things that they do well many of the things that they do and so i'm very curious to see what the end game changes are because that was a big one classes are coming out a send-in sees are gonna get revamped uh

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I obviously, for me as a minion player, I'm hoping for a lot more variety when it comes to minion skills and minion options.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what this is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the class for me, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if you think of the witch that, well, like, think about any other type of class.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If there's any other class that's going to come out that's going to give a minion player variety, it's the ally centered.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, whatever it's going to be, but like when you look at the other sides, sure they could add a minion style or an ally specific thing, like especially if you get down to the mercenary, like a general style player, but at the end of the day, where all the minion nodes are is kind of where you would typically situate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a generic minion or ally player or class ascendancy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, it's the druids slash templar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is where it's going to really make a break, you know, T-Boom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm just, I don't have any expectations or anything I'm open for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to play it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm hoping that, well, I don't think what I want, I'm going to get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just have to move on from that, which is faster, uh, gaming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Put it in the game filter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to get that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy to use an out of game filter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't bother me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I would love the idea of them putting one in there, but that does not bother me at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've played with Phil to play since it was a thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So having a filter outside of the game does not bother me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, not even close.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not even on the same level as the campaign and having to take forever to get through the campaign.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see, I will not be playing any Path of Exilely, up to it though, because it is very difficult to go from POE 1 to POE 2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Currently, it's just too slow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's too, you look, it feels jarring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost getting nauseous just thinking about how the difference is like, after if you only play one game, it's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if you just play POE 2, it's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But going back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's very hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unhealthy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unhealthy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I like the pace that it is right now but I also understand the idea of them being very careful but unlocking that pace, you know, like you can't crawl that back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I do understand that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm totally on board with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, it's hard right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Sprint was smart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he did change your game, but you gave an option.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a little bit still.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they fixed it so that you weren't getting stuck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so glad that I wasn't just talking at my ass about the whole stupid getting stunned out of a roll.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, because it's all you were sprinting, but I still feel like it's still a little bit clunky like, and I don't know that I want the solution of if I hold sprint, my character just magically moves around the trees and all the, you know, things that block it, but there's too many things that block my character that put me into a stun state or a staggered state because I bump

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but we're only one league into the sprint, so hopefully they'll have time to clear that up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's, but those are the same things that I complain about when it comes to meaningful combat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I getting stuck on crap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't see what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in the middle of fighting and these level designs are so like enemies blend in with the terrain and the

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[SPEAKER_00]: broken carts or trees they blend in with the environment you actually can't see where you can and can't go properly even like in-clines or like a puddle that for some reason I can't run across I have to go around like it all just blends in so sure that yeah you're bringing it up for something probably less

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[SPEAKER_00]: significant and, you know, for sprint and moving around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, when you're in combat, those are the same things that impact you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's busy and it's the difference between a portal and death, the next P loss.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I, that's one thing that I, I really hope that visual clarity is just as bad as the first game, but for other reasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know what that subject is bad, but it is bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think visual clarity and purely one is a trotist.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had to be at its own level, but Bwe2 has an improved, it's not like they've tried to improve since they've come out with Bwe2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess what I mean to say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That the experience for me as a user isn't any different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The reasons for why the visual clarity is bad and either game sure are different, but at the end of the day it's bad and both.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still can't see what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The, I guess the escape now that path one has is, well, they have path two, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now they can just make path one whatever they want, even if it's like, all right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all damage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First, it's all about screen clearing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we don't actually have to care about this data or another thing like, okay, like, that's just the path one experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what you said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's also the ARPG experience so like you have to be careful because you can't abandon the ARPG experiences to go in and smash a ton of monsters kill a bunch of monsters get loot so I don't know like I'm excited to see where they go with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm hoping to see something that at least picks the pace up a little bit even if it's not purely one level which I'm totally fine with

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[SPEAKER_01]: And see how that goes, but yeah, I would love to see something campaign related.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not, I don't even need content, just that you've made it faster somehow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sprint isn't enough, it's good, it's definitely a good start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's just too long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the druid better be good because that's what I'm playing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm not starting another character because I know I can do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's a weird thing with POE 2 and POE 1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will lead start a build that I know I can play even though it's not new because I can get currency.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's no big deal to level a second character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't take a super long time in POE 1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You still need to, but yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hate it, but I can be done in like four or five hours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's not going to be

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to take up such a massive amount of the time that I have available to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Peaway too, I can't afford to just go, oh, I'll play my first case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I know what this is yet to wait.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have the time for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's days of playtime which becomes weeks of my time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it just takes too much in-game time for me to actually do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that means I'm going to be committing to a new build, which I've not done almost ever in Peaway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I tend to pick something that I'm comfortable with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so hopefully it's, but the when they don't have the self accountability for balance when they don't insist on having a balance game, but they're fine rotating, which skills are strong and which skills are weak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That actually is a huge impact for is somebody willing to spend a few days leveling up a new character, because at some point those people are going to know like, I don't even know if this build's going to work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, sure, that's part of some of the theory crafting experience, but when you build a build properly and it still doesn't work, there's no way to find that out until you actually get to that point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So do people actually want to spend 15 hours?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then discover that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if that's lingering in their mind, maybe it's like, oh, well, that's a really cool idea, but no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's one of the components of that kind of combination of the ratitude towards skill balance versus the size of the areas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the fun parts about Pui one when it was in its like beta and early acts early out of beta stage was

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[SPEAKER_01]: You couldn't fix your character, so you had to reroll the character, but the process to do that wasn't massively time-consuming and you could usually find it out relatively quickly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you remember there wasn't really any endgame, you were just constantly recycling through the content.

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[SPEAKER_01]: purely to is not friendly to just winging it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was talking with might have been Logan or Ethan I can't reach one of them, but I was saying that the problem currently with purely to is just that because they're still lacking in skills and all these other things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The build, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The array of builds that you can play is way smaller than it is in POE1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just can't go into POE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very, very difficult to go into POE2 and just wing it and go like, well, I want to go in this direction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You probably can't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, very few skills, few skills to pick from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not like you can just go and buy a skill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: get a few more scrolls of wisdom and it's like oh shoot the skills doesn't suit me or it's not working out for me I'm gonna go buy another one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You actually have to wait for a draw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to use your super crappy skill lots until something else drops for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's RNG specific.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're not actually that like not every skill that you have available to you is quote unquote smart to use like some of them are just real trash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you've used that one skill gem on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like oh crap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I can slog through this and hope for another one or just restart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the thought of restarting, depending on how much time you've put into it, you're like, oh, I was going to load a different game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it is, though, like when you're going from you to drop for decent though, forgetting skill gym, I feel like there's their jobs or deals and for skilled first guy to agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're already strong, but if you're weak, if you're you're something up to try something else, or you try it and it didn't work out, you're screwed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a simple tool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but they don't even have a place where you, I mean, maybe the answer is like maybe you can buy level 1 skill gems and level 1 support gems from somebody for gold I don't know because you need to be able to try stuff out and if you are making a game So that new people coming in are trying stuff out and just seeing what they like in the game like what suits them Let alone what's stronger not like it's not just balance

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not everybody's coming into a new game and being like, all right, I'm already min-maxing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the best, what's the start, the, the try to find fun, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're not going to want to spend eight hours fighting normal white enemies, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like they're going to try stuff out and revamp, and it's all about the theory crafting, and that the game does not provide that right now at all, not for a new player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Once you're familiar with what's strong, sure you can go through and you can fly through it, and you can then you all just aren't alive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's, that's, that's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm hoping that there's not, I don't know, like, the, the, the concept in the mentality of feature-create is something that every developer has to be concerned about and put the breaks on for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But with that same mentality, I really hope that they're constantly considering what the new player experiences from start to finish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's nothing wrong with having an easy first act, the really isn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I agree, especially if you're not like slamming it down and act to on them, but uh or at least more access the things in act one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, like it's all a hypothetical, we're just like hoping and dreaming and chatting, like who cares what the state of the game is right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, I'm not playing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not playing it, but whatever it's beta.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's peo-e for me anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm always I follow their league releases like I play games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just

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[SPEAKER_00]: play it till I don't want to play it then I play something else until I come they come up with the next one so and in a week we find out what the evil Val drew it is all about can't wait oh they had the like the weird triangle yeah that's a theory trying not to make it provocative the mirror but yeah but is that like I don't know the only other time we've had like water ripples

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the jury has the mirror, though, too, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even the boss fight to the to the mirror.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that what it is, though?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's pretty, it's pretty crappy, near.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's a little cleaning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know the eyeball that came out of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That one threw me off a little bit, because I was trying to think, like, where that falls in with the vowel, but I also don't know, or Huey, too, that eyeball with the tentacles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Always around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the way that's around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the, yeah, that's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, I think that's like the corruption thingy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still don't get endgame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just map, buddy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Trying to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would be fine to see what they do with the game because they did say there was a lot more coming out I will look in a week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be able to chat about all the stuff that are coming, and it'll be good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can't wait I can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty stoked for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, even though I'm not playing either game for like the last month and a bit Okay, I'm stoked see what comes

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, let's show it up, Trevorx, I'll 3-21, just take a take a take, and that's how the record of this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Patreon's will see you in the next episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see you next week after the Druid of the Val pact comes out with their announcement and we'll get to shout out about it then, so hopefully have a great week.

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