Totally Not Contradicting Ourselves

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to forever excelled.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Justin aka tags.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that's laughing up from the system of curve days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi sorry, so my that was good timing for closing the door perfect timing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're needing to close the door.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, no, it was opening and closing my, my senior dog decided that she'd already had enough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Normally she's good to just shoot a podcast all day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She does.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She can't see it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's a blanket right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that's why she's crying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But my super senior dog, who is definitely like Bill Bowen, but her script over too much bread too much bread.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She, um, whenever she's, I don't know, I pretend that's like she's in too much pain.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think she blames it on the location and she needs to move.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So even though moving is very difficult for her now, she's like, no, I kind of move this place sucks as long as she's still moving.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I accommodate because, you know, she'll be back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, she's supposed to be dead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love her dearly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not like, I'm not doing the store.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not doing the diaper stuff like when it's time for her to go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's not time for her to go, but it was supposed to be time for her to go like half a year ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's going on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Point is is for some reason she can't podcast all day anymore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she was done before we even started.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that was just perfect timing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Perfect timing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know episode this is?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We did this last time too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna guess, three or five.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's your guess?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll say that, too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to three or five.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, wait.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't give me screw me up because there's a website I can go to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's also the keeps track of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tom River XL.com.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man, sounds great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And supporting all for the XL was episode three or four.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, so five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever this is going to be called, this is three or five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to three and a five of Forever Excel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Big shout out to our patrons thanks everybody who resubbed up this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're Tyler and I just keep riffing and raffin' to just dig it into that kind of the English making up words and sound and cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we are cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, thank you everybody who sports podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and self-developed cool, but yes, we do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So how's your week Tyler?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had a wonderfully blend and usual week

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because he was great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing happened nothing was special.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We just chilled man like I mean, nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Chores kids up my son went away for five days right with his buddy out in the interior of the province and all had a great time doing those things that like you and I as we were growing up somehow ended up doing but those weren't things our parents ever did you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like maybe it was all those like Bible camps or whatever it was that they would show stuff at you, but he went to his buddies

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have their place on the lake that they visit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're cabin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How is picture cabin like?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're lucky if you have two rooms, but basically it's like a kitchen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's the bathroom and then like there's just all these caught in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's wood, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like hey, I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After it's bigger than that, you need to be at that table or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's probably like it's just like a big coast and so anyway, but that's where they go and they they have like their open fire pit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They went kayaking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They did a whole bunch of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My son also was using a wood splitter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I get a picture of him with all these goggles and gloves on and I'm like

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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't have that in our house.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then we just, and what I'm saying is like, those are things that you and I did lots growing up, and those aren't things that our parents ever did, but those aren't things he's ever going to do, even though those are things that we're not doing any.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, or sorry, we're more into that than our parents were.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he's not going to get into it unless he does it with someone else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, I was thankful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Very thankful and it was good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the news only ten.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So go in the way for five days.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's really good for him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's really daughter had a fantastic time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was like, she misses him dearly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They are two peas in a pod.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They just love each other's company.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's a totally different house for boy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Boy's a boy, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it was he one of his first questions when he came home was like, so was it quiet?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but he was quiet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome that he asked that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He has a little self-aware which is always good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, but all of a sudden, she's like extra adult.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and I mean, she chooses to act certain ways because she's almost teenager or she's almost here or almost there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So she has these like choices she makes because there's a certain way in her mind that certain people, that certain age is supposed to act.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But without that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know kid silliness in there that she was just I guess less on edge because her brother wasn't annoying or so much and so she just didn't have it so anyway we had a great week it was awesome and so yeah how do you man how was your week uh my week was it was good it was really busy it had some really good moments were in the process of developing software that is going to be amazing so that's been um really good we had some really good

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[SPEAKER_01]: movement with that this week, and then okay, so my kids are gone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're coming back today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've been gone a week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they go away with my mother-in-law and they have a party and they get to just live and be outside all the time at their cabin as well or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But so that means, you know, in the evenings, Christina and I just get to hang out and do whatever we want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we went for

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so one night, I thought, I'll be real nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Take her out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go for dinner, maybe do some shopping.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're divorced.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I took, I take her out and as we're ending as we're heading back to the house, she had mentioned to me that she wanted to go by home Depot and I was like, what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, yeah, I was going to look for some stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is like, as we're walking into the house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, okay, we're going tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you say home Depot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the next day we go to Home Depot and we're walking around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was looking for some paint.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She wants paint the.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Already.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't just do a couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know what paint.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care because I won't paint.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I won't do anything else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not involved in painting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I said, let's go to Home Depot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We go look around and paint.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, in your home Depot, you don't just go to Home Depot to pick up a paint swatch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You do some walking around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we do some walking around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We walk through probably most of the store and we go through one part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we have a bathroom upstairs that is our kids bathroom, guest bathroom with people staying over our upstairs or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for about a year, probably close to a year now, the exhaust fan in that bathroom has not worked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The venting fan hasn't worked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it for about three months before that, you could tell it was starting to die.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then it died and I had already replaced the one in our master bathroom and I knew how hard it was because it's you got to get access into the attic because of the way that it screwed into the joists and in the kids bathroom it's right near the exterior wall and the roof slopes down and when I looked at it before I would have to be on my stomach trying to reach to try and work with this thing and I was like that's not I'm never going to be able to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've just been like, open the window and you have a shower.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But whatever, you know, we did it as kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't always have your freaking exhaust vent fans get out here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we walked through Home Depot and we go through that section and she brings it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, really, we're gonna have to do something about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's causing mold and damage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, calm down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But before kids would just open the window.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we look through them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're looking at these fans and I'm going to my head like, God, I don't want to do that though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be so much work and then we walk through the rest of the phone depot and then we're coming back towards like we finish up and then she's like, I just want to look at one more thing and we walk back to that area.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now I'm like, fuck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She really wants this done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Be in the bonnet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I'm like, alright, Justin, you're a good husband.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna surprise her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the next day I'm working and it's in my head the whole day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I gotta do something with that stupid thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, be a nice person, be, you know, I like, I do like doing work around the house, but I like stuff that's functional, so I don't want to paint, but replacing stuff, but replacing that thing was, I did do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's replaced now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was not fun at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was brutal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you buy these fans, because when we look at these fans, she's like, well, it says easy install on like those guys are liars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are absolute liars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They should all be sued.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they should be sued for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, I had probably about sixty tools up in my bathroom, trying to work a way to get the stupid fan out because it screwed in above the ceiling into the joists, but it's exterior to the actual encasing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you gotta try and find some way to get to it, but from the bottom, it was off my whole body hurts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like my back was on fire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, I mean, thankfully my dad came up to help me at one point because I didn't know how they think that it's a one person job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like barely dangling off the toilet trying to hold on to stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, it's all done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a new fan and it's all fancy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this one like reads the condensation in the room and automatically kicks on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, if these kids don't have a freaking fan on when they're having a shower, I'm gonna be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm losing my mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to need to be open anyway, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fan or no fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Seriously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, over all the week was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it was just not been a year because you did that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I got like two points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she was super happy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She loved it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But next week, there'll be something else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, we should.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But your wife also wanted to go to Home Depot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it was a win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But there's a few trophies coming your way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm caching.

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[SPEAKER_02]: my body.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You say, listen, I know you were doing that for me, but I actually did that for you because I wasn't really in the mood.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you made it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was in the mood to go to Home Depot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, so it was, it was a good week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, uh, but we're watching the wire and yeah, we just just hung out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I went out for dinner with my dad and brother.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which was nice we haven't I can't remember the last time the three of us went out for for me also went hung out with them for a little bit and it was it was a good week overall fun I didn't play a whole lot of stuff, but I didn't get much gaming time this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tisk, tisk, just and tisk, tisk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just happens, you know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, hey go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, well you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had, oh yeah, my mom's birthday, in case she hears this heavy birthday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to get yelled at, I can't say something, heavy birthday to my mom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had a bunch of people over here for my and Christina's birthday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, just family.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then some of them were starting to leave and I was realizing that my wife was gone for quite a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, what's going on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I walked out to the front and her and her sister were outside planning our front yard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because mom and sister, my wife and her sister, we're planning out the new wall that we're apparently going to be building along the garden.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a home depot trip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You were looking at stones for the wall and you know it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, that part wasn't even part of it, but they were talking about like, what plans we're going to put in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so anyway, at some point, my front yard is apparently going to get to make over sweet as long as they don't step on the grass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to find somebody who's going to help me carry those stupid stones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember when we did it on this side of the house and I was useless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Josh, you got a guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to need a couple guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's sub-sevy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, what were you going to say when I interact?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, we were.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you interrupted me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We were riffing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dude.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to take the kids to Abbott's word for the airshow that they have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This can we can.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've done it before.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, when I was very, you know, a couple years older.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's spoken on unfortunately.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of those things where you want the sky to be clear, but here in August, that's

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you're going to be outside like add an airport zero shade and you can't be one of those tits that brings an umbrella to the air show for shade because everybody's trying to look into the sky so it's really you for like

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[SPEAKER_02]: being the center of the universe around a hundred and fifty thousand people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just throw them like right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're in my hand.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you also want this guy to be clear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, of course, when you buy your tickets, unless you're buying the day or two before, you can't really tell how much cloud there's going to be before.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, when we went, there weren't even apps that could tell you that now you can.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's going to be about fifty percent cloud coverage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: in the area tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so hopefully it's not too hot, but it'll be really cool because the kids haven't really experienced anything like that before.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so yeah, be really neat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going on the Saturday and I'm just really curious to see what it's like because I know my son will absolutely love it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm really curious to see what my daughters like for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then who cares about my wife and I will appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do we sweat and just wanting to go home?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna have a Mac back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just gonna be full of water stream.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Water stream.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do we got to this action hit?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's basically the end of the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the effects.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nope, there isn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Reverse list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, they had the gauntlet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even, I forgot that that was that they do people do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People were like, are you in play the gauntlet?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, right, forgot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, but think about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, obviously, Ziz doesn't need it at all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, being rude about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But Ziz is one of those streamers that's made it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not like, he needs

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[SPEAKER_02]: The extra traffic quote unquote, but obviously he benefits from it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would assume right, but the poor guy like that's one of those things where like a think about that's a reminder for those people that don't make a living streaming that there were a lot of people that make a living streaming that really got screwed over by GGG's one year absence from public cell one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, not a criticism to the company, either.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just one of those things like somebody's product.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like, I don't know having your company dependent on the American Canadian terror system.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, all sudden it's changing, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's just going to do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not a criticism left or right, but yeah, you forget about some of the things that happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, like congrats to everybody that did stuff in it, even if you didn't do anything congrats to you because you tried it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like that they give away gifts and they're like, um, M.T.X and stuff based on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh, it's funny because we had just gotten so used to with the schedule of three, you know, P.O.E.

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[SPEAKER_01]: when leagues.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I saw that the gauntlet was coming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, Oh, cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I forgot that they do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to play it, but that's cool that they've got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then people asked in our discord like, Hey, when we're doing the private league and in my head, I was like, uh, we just did one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you talking about?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I totally forgot that it's because a new league has come out and, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Typically we were doing private leagues right after or so you know some aren't two months in or whatever to to a league You and I hadn't even thought I honestly I had not even thought about it because I in my head I was like we just did we just did a thing we just did it

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know that we have any plans for one for this league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We may have to start again next league, but I don't currently have any thoughts towards doing one for this league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know it kind of might suck a little bit, but what are we in August right now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: When's to come now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, does that sound okay?

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[SPEAKER_01]: End of August.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, we probably will.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I guess that means like there is we're not going to do a private league for each league for each game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not going to do private league every two months.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll have to just pick and choose maybe we do a private league.

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[SPEAKER_02]: for the path of Excel one leagues until path of Excel two comes up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're probably going to officially.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Pioi two's not going to have private leagues for a long time, but that does mean our private league is going like because they're still only a two month window.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I have to time that a little weird.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So well, only a month in though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess still, it's only one number of months, but, or do we completely ignore path of Excel too?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because there's going to be a lot of path of Excel, one player's that aren't playing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Path of Excel too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe we completely are you frozen?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Good for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's all right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My head is working on trying to justify it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I could see that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My body upright.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You turned off animations on your camera, so I could see the brain wave square.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, no, like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, maybe we completely ignore Path of Excel to schedule when we're scheduling Path of Excel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One, make it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One month in, might just work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, one month in, we'll just do a primary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what else is this one?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because we're late and we're only like three weeks away now from unless we do one like now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's starting to really is now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wouldn't be because we would have to, because it runs for ten days, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we appreciate the reminder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it literally would run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If we tell you, you can tell how on the ball we are here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We could maybe start one next week and it would run to the, what, twenty-fifth like from the fifteen to the twenty-fifth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's right before puey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Two launch comes out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a good chance there won't be one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that just means that legends, you get to keep it for a little while.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel bad for the legends that we just, we'd have to look at because we just, that's so short.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I was like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, we just did one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We gave away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's wise.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We weren't going to do one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We were at a week in the head.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Gosh, we're thinking a, hey, what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, nothing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just whatever computer being my computer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, but yeah, that, um, that's why normally it's important to like think about things offline a little bit and then come online because think about how much more thoughtful we would have been.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd be like, no, no, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd like to thank you for the reminder, but we're not going to this time because we just got the internal work in our heads.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is how we end.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, we're being very thoughtful here by not having a private league for the community.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's for the sake of our legends.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and you know what's even better is, quote unquote, you're a legend this time around, even though you don't get the visuals for it, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you're a legend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so now it's like we can even say that from a selfish perspective, oh, no, we want the legends to last a little bit longer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you get recognition a little bit longer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why do that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean the visual?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, because you're, you're a rad dad on discord.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even figure out how to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just gave up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't spend any time on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I totally forgot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was so into it that one day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, yeah, we will be doing them still going forward though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it's so awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just looked at the top three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I absolutely love that top one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That that sort of wider image is so cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The incarnation of dread by Patrick H. ADA that I love that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, runners up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Past mystery box.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they have a weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't they just have a mystery box?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can say like last week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but look how many mystery box micro transactions are included in the sale.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, hold on, hold on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this is the mystery box stuff is on sale.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't a get a mystery box for spending money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They just had the get a mystery box for spending money on the school.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How many of them work with POE two?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's one of those things like, even at least these aren't new micro transactions, but it's just one of those things where it's like more sales to buy mtx, more sales to buy mtx, and I'm like, okay, what's cool about the ones I have?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're coming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's enough data.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There were two minor patches, nothing major.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's that one patch notes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's this early access path of a low-fi soundtrack?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's just somebody did some cover for P.O.E.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Two music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: GGG liked it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they shared it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really access patch notes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this P.O.E.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You want it to?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this would be early act.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is P.O.E.

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[SPEAKER_01]: too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So now we just see lots of links, but nothing else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But read the very bottom under announcements.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What did I write?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, show more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: teaser that they didn't put on their website.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean, a teaser for what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they, they, they, they put out a team, they put up, finally put out a teaser for Path of Excel too, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the early in terms of just like how normal leagues work, like we're still, actually maybe not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's only three weeks are coming out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're around the three week marks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is when the teasers would start.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they, they tweeted, they asked a teaser.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How come you didn't click the link for me to see what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But is it going all the way back and certain access annoying like the most recent thing that I have on my notification isn't there I have to go scrolling for access such a pain in the butt with I don't use it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not looking for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Put it on your damn website goodness me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I want to see it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you talked about whatever you want to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know how last week we were going to go petitioning around the GGG parking lot with something about Camille supporting Camille and Camille Jr.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we're going to have to, like, just pay somebody to walk around the parking lot that just has a big sign that says web site web site just to remind them of web site web site path of excel to dot com path of excel to dot com.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the one that I'm looking for?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it the recovered along buried library in the ruins of Oryath with a note that reads the symbols are of an unknown language to Cypher and it makes it possible, but it will take time time I no longer have and it looks like some paper and it says beginning winter birth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very cool picture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just this is a teaser.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is not a teaser for me because that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you always start small.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know, but it does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Looking for teasers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go to the path of Excel to what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, shoot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, we can't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, hang on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you can go to the pat hang on path of Excel one forms index.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's coming early access announcements.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, they just think everyone not there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, they did add the news section to Path of Excel too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So website, that's new.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you click on it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, just click on anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just scrollable videos.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, if I, on the Path of Excel two website, I can, they have their most recent news, boss versus boss, we can stash tab and Path of Excel two low-fi soundtrack.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It takes you to the forum post.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Takes you to Path of Excel one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But at least it's, yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But not the new teaser.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is actually like the old Path of Excel to original site better than this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, they changed this quite a long time ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They actually removed a lot of the information.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You actually have to go into Donna the hunt to see the.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's an interesting choice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All the stuff that you would go to Path of Excel for as a couple clicks away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and I'm just looking at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, but I'm, that's not kind of one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The opposite, don't you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The way the website was at the actually at the beginning was, love rate, loved it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you kind of get that if you go into game or don't in the hunt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, this is interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you want teasers for Path of Excel, go to X. Apparently.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: which drinking coffee?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So about that path of exile, hey?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're getting close to when there will be some new stuff out, but... There will be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There will be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been thinking lots about it, and I actually haven't bothered playing the beta very much, and I've discovered that it's boring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why like I've I've just been playing games that I'm kind of into but not really so I've had just been doing other stuff, but I think it hasn't been interesting from all just age of empires, um, Ian and Ryan have been into our Madden franchise quite aggressive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I've been keeping up with them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But every time I go into load path of exile, I'm like, man, there's just not enough for me to play with that I enjoy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want you to the campaign.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so it's been kind of very slow and I guess disappointing gap or stage of the beta experience for me just because I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking forward.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I guess maybe now this is a broken record because now I'm really looking forward, of course, to what's going to come out in three weeks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully it's not delayed and I guess it won't be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That would be really funny if they did that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's like we're releasing everything that stuff, but then they delay it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'll not be delayed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There isn't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But like you really have to release some good stuff if you're doing once every four months.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm looking forward to it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What I'm looking forward to though is just stuff that I care about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know that sounds selfish, but that's the whole reason I play this with just what things that I like exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm really looking forward to small things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: not big things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, I'm excited about these sentences.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Those are big things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm looking for campaign changes and I'm looking for skill tweaks and I don't know if those are coming, but those are the things that I'm excited about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking for to things like as the game comes out further and further, I hope that it becomes something that's

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[SPEAKER_02]: worth delving time into instead of oh cool I wonder how this works oh okay let's see like I'm hoping it becomes a more fine tuned experience as it goes farther along and I totally get like we're what year and a half away from at least maybe who knows two years but uh

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking about it, and I'm like, man, I was really kind of expecting myself to play Path of Exiles beta as I played standard in Path of Exile one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I just enjoy the long-term experience, go and play it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the one thing that hit me was of course, there's not really an archetype that I like that can be played right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's really like at the end of the day when I was thinking about like, man, like, I just don't want to play right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: At the end of the day, no matter the changes, even though there's tons I'm excited for, one thing I'm really excited for is just for my personal things, those extra tweaks that I don't really know except for the obvious one that I've beaten to death already in a previous episodes, I just

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's that little bit of excitement, that little thing that's for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I could play it like standard nonstop.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really did expect myself at the beginning of all of this to just play beta and enjoy the experience and enjoy the lack of balance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm, well, maybe everybody else understands me better than I do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I kind of surprised myself with my apathy towards it after a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's not enough in Path of Excel to at least for me to be able to play it longer term.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've been to death the campaign.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that that's unfortunate because it would make me want to try other characters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think that you it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You probably would enjoy just when you have time and you do in Madden or Age of Empires doing Path of Exile One.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the changes, because they are a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The end game is very cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can do end game on your standard, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That all carries over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You would just not have the mercenary stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think Path of Exile, one is still a good game to have when you're just filling time doing some maps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And seeing some of the changes, I think you would really enjoy the new endgame stuff, like even if you don't play the lead because you're not really one that wants to like level up a new character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do all that stuff like you enjoy the standard experience?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And standard still gets all of the, what is the secrets of the Alice or whatever it's called?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great, that stuff all is already released for standard players too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you would enjoy it as just a filler one doing maps here and there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, messing around with your build, playing around with some of the new stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, but see Path of Excel too, and I didn't think it would happen this way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe there's other listeners that kind of understand where I'm coming from or feel the same way as I do, but like I fully expected to pick one game over the other just because of time management at that point, but I didn't expect Path of Excel too to actually ruin Path of Excel one for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And what path of Excel to did, and this is a good thing, unfortunately, but there's a lot of stuff that regular players do overlook, like regular path of Excel one players, overlook and are used to accommodating certain really

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[SPEAKER_02]: on user friendly things, on quality of life things that it's really, once you take a step back and you come back to it, you realize how much better other games do, including Path of Excel too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, but you have, and I'm not, I don't have a list prepared, so don't, don't be all like critical of my list here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: These are things that, you know, just,

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[SPEAKER_02]: when you have things like damage, like what the heck was that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have visual clarity, you have level design where it's like, yeah, I have no idea what's trapping you and what's not because of how busy this screen is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have things like off-screen damage, you have unfair mods, which, you know, there's just, oh, there's so much, even like when it comes to menu design, right, and you have like the lack of stuff for an animate guardian, right, or specters, right, zero information about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have zero information about,

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[SPEAKER_02]: your skills themselves, you have skills that have multiple uses and multiple skills within the skill itself, but the DPS screen or the skill support screen only shows like the one generic version of it, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have there's just so much in the game that

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[SPEAKER_02]: People have had to get used to, and sure it's very fun when you're used to getting used to it, but it is a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The plan around that a lot of the times experience players don't realize that that's what they're planning around.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And fine, whatever I was enjoying the game with when all of that existed, and I would continue enjoying the game with all of that existing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But all of a sudden, Path of Excel too starts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They start talking about getting rid of off-screen damage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We start seeing changes about them caring about mod combinations, even mod combinations based on enemy base types.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You see the character selection, the character screen, starting including more DPS and the talks about it including dots.

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[SPEAKER_02]: talks about the possibility of including support skills that deal damage and then you have specters coming out but with the intention of in-game information coming out and you have the in-game menu system and all of a sudden you have all these things that have the intent of fixing all the things that actually drive me nuts and path of Excel one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so now all of a sudden, I'm like, I don't know, maybe it may be it put a magnifying glass on the things that I forgot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was getting used to, you know what I mean, or may excuse us for whatever it was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so again, not like whatever make Path of Excel one, whatever you want it to be, but I think Path of Excel, just and this is like this isn't choice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is just unintentional.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like all of a sudden, these things like

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, like that game, like half the time I played it, I was mad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And all those reasons are still in the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like a new league doesn't change that unless you're actually making these fixes, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe maybe just put a magnifying glass on that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So now when I look at Path of Excel one, I don't see it as the theory crafting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: God that it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I see it as, oh my goodness, I don't want to deal with that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm starting to remember how fifty-fifty it was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Instead of like, you know, like the typical wave of path of Excel is like that last month and a half of league, because again, I'm a standard player.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'd be playing the full three months and that last month and a half of the league, I would be like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh man, hey, this game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the first month and a half because of all the hype and all the excitement of changes and new content, you're like, oh, love this game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the best, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you go through the the roller coaster of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think just with what path of Excel is trying to do, which is obviously good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of removed the up part of the roller coaster for me, because it's just constantly reminding me, like, hey, listen, it's got all this crap.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's why Pewie too is here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think sometimes though the benefit can, so I think Path of Exile One is still in a very fun and good state to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It does obviously have his nuances that we get annoyed with and we've learned to live with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think one of the benefits though of playing it from time to time is, well, one, it's fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So don't play a game if you're not having fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just stupid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you also then, uh, you sort of realize some of the things that maybe you missed in PUE two or the things that they've changed that you're like, oh, I really like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that was trippy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just moved the camera and we went for a ride.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, that was very smooth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I moved the camera.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's very smooth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's very smooth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How you moved it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right after you say, oh, that was trippy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it was trippy, but it was very smooth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't jittery.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you get you, it kind of, it does help you, or think of the things that you really like that they've changed while you're still having some fun in Path of XO one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ding dong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're getting to

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, or realize some of the things they've changed in POE two, I think POE one is still in a good state.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you would still have fun doing maps and standard, especially getting to see some of the new content that they've added in secrets of the Alice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, there would be some annoyances, but some of those things that came into puey too, they also introduced into puey one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so being able to see that yourself, I think it gives you a good, instead of, you know, you get to a point where you're at, which is I'm in the same boat, which is that puey too currently is just a bit boring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, it's both boring and game, but just too exhausting to try something new.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Path of Exile One is definitely not that case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not boring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not

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[SPEAKER_01]: lacking if you want to create a new character, it's very easy to get going with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it is still fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you would still enjoy it and it would also help you with some of the things about Path of Exile II that might feel annoying to go like, oh, they're actually

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, taster is that reverse effect.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're playing the game that you know has those things drive you know just so that you can feel better back to the beta, but you know what I mean that I mean never remember when we played the I have like I

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't I don't want to play Path of Exile one like I like I mentioned um not as you know just for the reasons that I mentioned other podcasts and this one is whatever add them all together but when we played the private league of course which I will partake and have a great time and enjoy it it was I remember the commerce it well not I don't I remember saying that we had it was funny like it wow yeah like

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[SPEAKER_02]: It just reminds you of all those things that Path of Excel too is really trying to do well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And in some cases, already doing really well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's funny because I haven't played PUE to, I don't even think I've turned it on with the exception of trying to do the mystery box stuff last week, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Trying to make the purchases.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's been maybe two weeks since I've actually tried and bothered with gameplay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so here I am saying, like, yeah, I'm bored of it, or I've been choosing something else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But now that I'm actually talking to a friend about Path of Excel too,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I can't think of why I'm not playing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm all of a sudden, I'm like, but I did come up with a zombie build where it's actually just like a button and a half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I'm like, I'm enjoying the concept of just holding down my right trigger for my constant skill.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then X is kind of like my cheat one button.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So even though it's technically a two button build, I'm on controller some holding down X.

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[SPEAKER_02]: or holding down right trigger, and then I just hit X whenever it is, whatever design my build is, that's my one button.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, yeah, but I found a fun way to do zombies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, why am I not doing that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm like, but I haven't even gotten to end game to see if this is enough damage yet or not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So even if they make the change, no, the sudden I'm like, and this is just like within the last two minutes, I'm like, why have I been playing Age of Empires?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that so I'm quitting to them?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I surrendered both of my last two games because of the stupidity of the Ottomans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Ottomans are the best.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They are because they auto-generate so fast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you don't attack them first, they're just like, we don't even need to use your guns for this crap.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Good luck.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm all out of gold now I'm just on wood and and fruit people and they're not good enough for all your

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[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, I've surrendered both two games because they want to tolerate that crap.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is actually awesome given our current conversation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Madden's EA, like all my clips to Ian and Ryan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just about hey, look how stupid this guy is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's running over all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Look how idiotic he's running around and this and that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's all just complaining.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Why am I not playing like this all now all I can think about is how I like all these goals I had of like oh yeah, but I want to try this before the next patch and this for the next patch and now I want to get to end game for this and I had I had so much time That's like three weeks to go and I'm like oh no, and then I'm gonna be all burnt out

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[SPEAKER_02]: Even though I never don't know before now of a sudden I'm dealing with that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's maybe, though, that's one of the unforeseen consequences of having those breaks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I was in a rhythm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just liked Path of Exhaust.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder how a standard standard standard and now there's nothing, but even nothing shouldn't impact me as a standard player.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just going nothing's changing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need the leagues.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But that has to be fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to be fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then Path of Excel too was like, look how much more fun we're gonna make it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then like, okay, well, I only have so much time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's do the more fun and I'll help out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then there was the combination of them being like taking six months to reply to an email.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, okay, I don't know how communication works over there, but how on earth is it going to take that long for them to reply to emails?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But how do they see feedback?

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's like billions of people writing all this like feedback, but half of it's good, half of it's not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then there's the other people where they're all professional and they're sounding all nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think you should fix this and these are the reason.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And half of that's crap, but then half of that's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, like in my naive mind, I'm like, well, if you can't handle emails, how can you handle this?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the word that needs to die.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The part of you that is like, I want to help.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to like, I thought you meant like the naive of trying to figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't, I can't hear it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's the tough thing because that's why I was playing the beta to begin with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean sort of it was my list of things but I feel like like some of the times that I've heard people speak or like things have come up like I really feel like it was my post I know it sounds silly but I just feel like some of my posts were

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[SPEAKER_02]: like, directly, not influence, but they were directly heard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I can see it in the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And not like it was, I don't pay attention to other people's posts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure there were thousands of others that were exactly like mine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But obviously not as good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But still, it was just one of those things where I'm like, I feel like it does help.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So however it is, they go through that advice and that feedback.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it is, but I have a list of like, sixty things, and I'm like, oh, I don't want to do any of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to do one a day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like a chore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't feel helpful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just feel like I need to mow the lawn, but where do you keep that list?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Post.

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[UNKNOWN]: I have two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, but it's in Google Tasks, because I can just help you delete it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Google Tasks, unfortunately, but fortunately, in this case does not let you share repeatable tasks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would just delete it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think GGG knows how absurdly overturned the firebosses in that like magma forge area?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Man, okay, so I have brought it up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I need to make a post about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll let you just warn you before you bring it up here, because I brought it up here a few times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do people like fire is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just gotta move on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, asshole, first off,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't get fire as at that point because I didn't have access to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And also, I don't like a boss.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just personally, and this is just me personal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So please, I don't need your comment telling me that I'm wrong for your reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want a boss where there's a phase where I just have to run away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what that boss is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When she does her crazy ass start swinging, then you just spend the rest of that part of the fight just running.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you go back to that boss, but yes, I hear you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wait.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we're gonna talk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, which fireman I was talking to forge where you have to kill in the summer time they never had done a boss fight like that before and I remember the first time I fought it I was like at the edge of them thinking well I guess the lav is just gonna stop here and I'll have this little bit of space and then it didn't I'm like this is I've only fought that boss one time Only once I killed it once I've never gone back to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank God that that thing doesn't give me like

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[SPEAKER_01]: a skill point or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you have to do it to unlock the reforging, but it's like a do it once thing or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that is how you unlock it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you just have to go there after you've beaten the campaign.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You did a good job.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go back to you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, they're those things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like just give a fair eyes to get better damage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll be sure to use those rooms on my items that don't have something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do we that is a melee the first time I was like what how do I where I go?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Fire every I am thinking that I have an invested properly in my skeletons

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're just not going to survive no matter what you do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let alone this, but then it's like, you know, what's you guys know how big this tornado is when I'm just trying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm in act three, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just trying to ascend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know how big this boss is tornado is?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I love this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remerd fight awful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what stage of the game I'm at, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I here actually here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they do it on purpose.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're at the forty-five.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They want to know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They want to see their they're testing users.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're they're they're saying okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who are the ones that are whining and complaining?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who are the ones that are they can hold their cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Those are the ones.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's here's a list.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Met cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The forgemaster and minions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the fire guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, you can't scroll properly in your advanced info screen for minions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a couple enemies in the, one of the, the first was the first trial, second was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where you doing the, no, it's not the trial.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the second.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the other one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The other one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The trial master one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a couple base types that have some crazy off screen range on that one, which is not fun when you're ascending.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just get a bigger screen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing good to offhand for minion players.

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[SPEAKER_02]: sure it's a push put a shield on uh basically yes um WTF tornadoes tornado um tornado there was another boss that also had tornadoes anyway uh that one tornado though is wickedly too big

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[SPEAKER_02]: I need to ascend again with minions for me to post this next one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's like, this is how skeletons help ascending.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's me just running around and you know, like the one trial, it's the second trial.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's it the trial master trial master.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so one where you just have to survive for like, thirty cents.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like sixty cents.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the enemy slowly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just keep on and more and more and more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Skeleton's can't survive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't have good damage, like fast damage, you could get overwhelmed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you're just all you're doing is running in circles as a minion player, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're not using righteous spirits or raging spirits.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I have a video of my skeletons just being on constant cooldown.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All of them constantly resetting the timer over and over and over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is after all those changes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was going to make a video.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is how skeletons help a send.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's now expired on the Xbox clip stuff on their cloud.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I had a couple clips of just certain encounters and it's called WTF.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm leveling the weapon swapping that hasn't been added yet, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thingy thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, weapon swapping's there just to clarify weapon swapping's there, but the ability to

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[SPEAKER_01]: What was it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was to use the same skills or to be able to use the same weapon on a different weapon swapped tree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I actually did post this one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Enemies randomly stop taking damage and it is true.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's two different versions of this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And enemies are just walking towards you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All of a sudden, they're not taking damage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think over time, I realize that they are, they're blocking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I forgot that all projectiles can block, not just attacks, which I'm not used to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay fine, but there wasn't a block animation like I literally thought that the game was broken because there was nothing telling me that that enemy was blocking it was just nothing and it didn't like their shield wasn't up they were like walking it just happened to be holding a shield right so for the longest time and I think that's what the issue is but anyway posted and then there was another one where um

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[SPEAKER_02]: Certain bosses in their hitboxes, like the big ones where they stand up or they move around.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So a lot of the four-legged ones do this, like when G&R Gregory is in the wolf form, where you get the chimera, where auto-aim aims for those hitboxes can actually miss the boss based on where their animation is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like if they're standing on their hind legs instead of all four, like your fireball will go and not hit them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But what is the user supposed to do about that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it actually misses.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it just that that needed some tweaking there too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, you know, all that good stuff, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and then I think the one that's actually the biggest problem for me despite all that is the collision detection can be really jarring, really jarring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like when the enemy's moving me, the screen is like, and they've set up a bit from what it was early on, but it's I still don't like it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's, oh, no, it's unbelievable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so bad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so bad still.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, that's my small little thing that I haven't posted.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now you got a couple on here that I have posted.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they listen to this man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, at least you got it off your chest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think we've complained about them too much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, no, we're not putting you out in the office anymore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I know that they definitely still.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They probably did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They probably put it on the PA system and everyone's like, oh, sweet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's forever exiled time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're really excited Monday morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, yeah, I think back to what we were talking about when you, when you are at that point where puity might be feeling boring or whatever, I think path of XI is still a worthwhile do some apps feel the system out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it still gives you some insight into the direction when puity makes changes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like for me, at least it was helpful to like play the game and then I will only play a game if I'm having fun and I was having fun in Path of Exile One.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like despite the fact that we have a podcast about Path of Exile, if I'm not having fun, I'm not gonna play either of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Path of Exile One was fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a good time out of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Seeing the new endgame was very quiet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the news on us stuff that they did with her and her brother.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the mercenary stuff was fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you wouldn't experience that part because you wouldn't do starting a new character, but I still think you'd probably have fun doing some maps from time to time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even if it wasn't like consistent, like instead of doing a match of age of empires, you ran two or three maps, just every now and then, I think you would see that there is still, you know, you'd still be quite enjoying it, and it would remind you sometimes of some of the stuff in Path of Excel too that despite us

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, having our qualms every now and then, the direction is still awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a, it's a really good direction, at least I think that they're going so yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with you, but I'm probably going to play Path of Exile too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Today's some point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this is a zombie guy that I'm getting?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That you have to say that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's why it sucks though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the, well, also yes, because I'm leveling, which sucks, I have to ascend, which is stupid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the ceiling can only have a Path of Exile too is, I hate it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, not fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Neither of the options.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the what I fail or I get stupid RNG so I have to do it again after do content I don't like again because of something I didn't have a choice in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Especially because it's something you really want.

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[SPEAKER_02]: like you they basically make you need it's not like it's optional like sure technically it is but it's about as optional as am I going to play this game or not that's optional it is so yeah so anyway but yeah well that that is that is the reason and there's also the other thing is there's not a class that suits any of the ideas that I like and I that's not a criticism it's just they're not out yet right like I wanted to see them said I did have a post a ggg i'm like

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[SPEAKER_02]: if you have all this minion damage in an optional tree right so like we're talking the first two clusters right depending on the class you pick the first two clusters change on the pass of tree and so if you don't pick a witch you're missing out on like ninety percent increased minion damage and even like a very hefty notable for minion revive time so you kind of feel obligated to do the witch as your minion ascendancy and I was like

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[SPEAKER_02]: Why would I pick the minion with the witch ascendancy?

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[SPEAKER_02]: These ascendancies suck for minions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that one time, I would say the witch is just done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So like, but you think about it's like, unless there's going to be another class, like even if there isn't another class, but I'm sure there is like one of the Templar ones is probably going to have minion damage it for their first two clusters as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But and then maybe one of the like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: ranger ones is going to have like companion damage or something like that, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's just one of those things where it's like the witch, the bloodmage sucks for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like there's nothing on the moon of the ascendancies have actual minion related stuff like damage wise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you can go, it has something that includes allies and minions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it is nice that it's as well as it's not specific to minions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's inclusive to minions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I do like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the unholy might.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's the one where it's like the explosions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's almost like the natural.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's the one where it's like the explosions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's almost like the natural.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's the one where it's like the explosions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's almost like the natural.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's the one where it's the one where it's the one where it's the one where it's the one where it's the one where it's the one where it's the one where it's the one where it's the one where it's the one where it's the one where it's the one where it's the one where it's the one where it's the one where it's the one where it's the one where it's the one where it's the one where it's the one where it's the one where it

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, it's just one of those things where there's just not enough to be there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, it's just one of those things, but I'm not trying to get into that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did mean to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just, I forget why we got into that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, liking it, not liking it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're reminding me of some of the reasons why I was frustrated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's hard because you're not going to get to end game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You need to get your ascensions for some of the characters to feel like they're coming online, which is definitely different than Path of XO-I.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You definitely felt stronger as you

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[SPEAKER_01]: leveled up, at least I did in Path of Exile ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot of country in POE one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You were forward, literally in Path of Exile one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You moved backwards in Path of Exile two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot of forward in backwards.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, I'm still going to play before after Dark Tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we'll chat about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully he's not coming into after Dark Angry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I have this up forever excelled, three hundred and five.

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