Traversing Two Games

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Forever XL them just naked tags.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm Tyler record of days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to episode three hundred and two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh for you guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to write which episode number.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see it up there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it just had a mate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mind just shut off for half a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes it happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm familiar with that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can never give you hard time for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where are we?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are we doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you hear my BPP.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there it goes again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, welcome to episode three hundred two forever excelled.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's summertime.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, so there's it's just it's just busy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's things these houses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's true, I'll make sure to all of our Patreon things, everybody who resubbed up this week, Patreon gets to access to Afterdarks, our podcast after the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, small, oh, man, I didn't even have a no pad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I haven't had to edit a single episode of ours in like a long time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: By edit, he doesn't mean edit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He just means, I mean, like, take a shot and take out a cough or a sneeze or that's for Justin's sexist comments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, obviously, take a lot of stuff out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, thanks for all our patrons for re-subbing up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I got Tyler's card out of the mailbox yesterday because my wife found it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it will be going out today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even going to say which name is on that envelope.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't want to hurt their feelings.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll write a special note inside.

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[SPEAKER_02]: but this isn't just for long-term listeners, but long-term listeners will.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here, so just in case you haven't listened for a bit, you know, in some downtime with Path of Excel, we have our car draw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're giving away a car.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Finally, giving away a car.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was basically like last week when we mentioned it, we said the date, whatever, whenever the draw is happening.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We changed the date like thirty seconds after the episode ended, and because we matched our schedules a little bit, so it's August first.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not like anybody cares.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, who needs a brand new car.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, if you're interested in winning all you have to do is be on a discord.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not like trying to trick you into joining our business.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then just there's a participatory.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you know, when you do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And but you do have to be comfortable giving us your address.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you win and you're not comfortable giving us your address, we will hunt you down after we find your address on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Am I allowed to say that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it depends on how far you go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we will kill you as slowly as we know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, you do have to become people giving us your address because we have to mail it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Call the car company to let them know where to deliver the vehicle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's what we have to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The dealership needs to know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where to deliver it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The L-E-G-O dealership.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Still sitting on my computer just waiting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just waiting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't sit on your computer just makes a big car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh the uh voucher for the car.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The instruction manual to said vehicle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, thank you everybody for all short term long term listeners.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We really appreciate it and it's just fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a silly thing that we're doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So three hundred thousand celebration to find out where the car we talked about in episode two or three totally planned it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We do always go to the last round way back in episode four or eleven or whatever it was that we would most definitely be it's gonna be this doing that Yeah, even the three hundred episode we decided that on the day I think literally on the day when I picked you up Yeah, but the Walmart I was we actually did find a perfect for the L. E. G. O. Car Company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, how's it we?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had a good week, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had a good week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to give special.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we love, as we said, everybody equally except for YouTubers, months.

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[SPEAKER_02]: EJ, a long time ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So remember just when we were doing, we were doing separate giveaways.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We normally do our private leagues, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: For every league.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously that's been on a weird hiatus just because of GGGs scheduling and plans.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But whatever we've had our private leagues in the past and we've had some financial rewards sometimes as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: seven centums to just, you know, push or try just for a small little prizes for the community can have fun together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But there was a time, I forget if it was just for one league, maybe if it was for two where we let other people donate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even remember this when we talked about this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember us doing this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We did have their own and we would post so they would be like to do like fifty bucks or twenty bucks or whatever it is to or support pack so uh... but they did for a change is this a challenge yes they created their own challenge and they would provide the uh... their own uh... financial reward but then they would obviously send that to us and we could officially post it in our discord and uh... e.j.

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[SPEAKER_02]: was really sneaky and he did his a while back that so like we're talking a while ago right

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[SPEAKER_02]: What was it a year ago, maybe?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But EJ was sneaky.

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[SPEAKER_02]: EJ snuck in some extra cash so that my wife and I could go out for real tacos for once.

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[SPEAKER_02]: None of this crap that I make at home, which obviously is the best.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So EJ up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope you hear this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope this is one of those episodes you accidentally skipped, but we would hope for tacos.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks to you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you hash went up for real tacos?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Those real tacos were really delicious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, with my wife and I, we had a fantastic time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, uh, we don't go out very often just the two of us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so we definitely made a point of doing it specifically for the tacos.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Kick the kids out in a way we went and we had a great time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So thanks, DJ.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the taco date.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just to tell me later where you went.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Some tourists.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I can't tell you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a guess.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But otherwise, let's just beep it out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just have a beep out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't want to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See, you already have to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just not do it right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what people I normally have to hear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, how's your lawn?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I should have kept it down on the lawn.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, wait, did you tell us about your week?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nope, but how was your week?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even tell you about my week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was just excited.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've actually had some pretty really disheartening news in the family that I'm not really going to share, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's been another cancer diagnosis in the fall.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so this one's especially heartbreaking, but I really can't say much more about him for the time being.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's heavy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a sort of course whenever those heavy things come, whether it's yourself or someone close to you and sometimes just something random that you hear on the news.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It really hits home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's another one of those things that if it's not for yourself specifically, your heart's broken, but you are thankful that it's just tough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's lots to be thankful for.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's lots to be heartbroken about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Very quickly reorganizes your priorities and reminds you about what your foundations are if you have any.

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know mine's go places and so it's been it's been a heavy week and my heart goes out to everybody that's that's involved but yeah besides that it's been great I mean we've been in the high thirties for weather my kids and I we've gone to the rec center almost every day

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[SPEAKER_02]: It sounds weird, just following up what I just said, but my kids are swimming in the deep end.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, the legs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not cool because it's like ever since COVID, any longer listeners here have like, I've complied with like my kids, I used to send them like it's just they have to know how to swim.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care if they like what I don't care.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care about anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to know how to swim.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to be an Olympian, but if you're boat tips over, I need you to be able to handle at least two minutes in the water before you die.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, I need to know that I didn't just fail you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We immediately got two minutes before you fail.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, I like that something I've always wanted, but ever since COVID, I don't know what it is about COVID.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like every time having our kids poorly, if they want to swim in lessons.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, because our rec centers are just booked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the hottest ticket in town.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they have like two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like out who's on coming to town and the tickets are twenty bucks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they just sell out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's insane.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I've been able to get my kids in a suit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I got them in one sort of twice, but it was not worth the effort for the amount of attention they get and what they learn.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I can teach them what I know and they'll be fine when the boat tips over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As long as the propeller doesn't shop them up, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so anyway, we've, I've just been taking them to the rec center whenever I can.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And for some reason, uh, I'm like, yeah, go for go start jumping off the diving board.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's do some stuff and figure in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They've probably been ready for forever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it was exciting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so they've been because that's such a big deal like they're ten and twelve, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So to them, that's just like mind boggling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, now they've been wanting to go every single day, every day for forever, never so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been good, it's been good, but the weather's been so hot, just my lawn is, this is the least attractive my lawn has been since I moved into this house.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What was that like six years ago now when we moved in, twenty nineteen maybe?

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the worst, it's ever been.

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[SPEAKER_02]: just because it's not been so what the the lawns only growing into the garden it's not growing into the bear patches which normally even if you were to leave it three years those bear patches end up just getting completely covered up but i don't know what it is maybe it is this heat like we're we're getting very different weeds than we used to and i think it's because the types of summers we've had like they're just so much hotter

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[SPEAKER_02]: that they're really not wedded all like when it's summertime, we do not get intermittent rainfall.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We used to get like it'd be hot one day and rainy the next and just joke around the dark.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The lower main lands just like you'd have to go somewhere else for a summer and now it's like now we're getting like desert snow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, yeah, so anyway, it's just one of those things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But this was the year that I also paid the some person to do the weeds, bring just so that I wouldn't have to do it because there was other things I wanted to get done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not something I want to do, but it's I didn't want them to do it for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they did such a bad job, but I didn't want to like criticize them the second it was done because it takes, you know, a tiny bit of time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I didn't weed while I waited for them to do their job.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I waited for the process to work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I just the weeds just kept growing instead of me combating it the way that I normally would.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So now I have twice as many as I should have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I still don't know why you didn't use my guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got it next time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will next time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think one of my son's parents uses your guy too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Probably.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw your son, a couple times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just outstrolling with his buddy, walking a dog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My kids actually saw him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know him at first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is rocking his hat and his sunglasses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just chatting away with his buddy, walking down the street.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just finished grade four and all of a sudden, every day, his buddy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dad, I've got guys to go see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, every morning at around ten a.m.

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[SPEAKER_02]: we get a knock at the door.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's ten thirty and guess who knocked at the door.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, just ten, thirty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just funny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He just knocked at the door.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got his dog and they're like, hey, go over, come over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You said we'll Oliver answers the door now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, well, that's too funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we drove past him the first time in my girls were like, that's Oliver.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't notice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I think yesterday when I was dropping them off, they're like, there he is again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a two-quarter round trip that they do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I can't tell you the detail.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they go around and yeah, it's all good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it thinks things have been good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Want to murder my lawn, but I also want to murder the long guy, but I don't want to spend anymore money on it, but I don't want to put anymore effort into it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now it's just I'm too old, but I still like it green and well, you're kind of at the point now where you can't do much for anyway.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, not in summer time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's just you're going to want to just hate it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, even when it was green, this is where it turns brown anyway.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't have all my logists.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like we're halfway through July.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have half a July and all of August of just pure mid-twenty to mid-thirty degrees sun for the rest of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not like it's gonna matter anyway.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But still, I failed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if my sprinkler is up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't decided yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I just haven't done it because I haven't, I don't know, just haven't done it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Christina was like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I heard you on podcasts talking about you just hit a button on your phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I can hit a button on my phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just like, yeah, but you don't have a backup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, it doesn't change the fact that I could hit a button on my phone to turn this sprinklers on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why I haven't, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I guess that doesn't start with the B and end with an easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, probably, I like I don't think about it until I'm exhausted and don't want to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly don't have a good enough answer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has been very busy this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a good week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, whether it was great, I spent too much time on the phone and in meetings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But otherwise, it was

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What else did we do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We went to my nephew's birthday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I went in the pool with you in a pool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, in our pool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My kids were really bugging me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were like, let's on the weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, we want dad to come on like fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they went out and bought some bigger

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[SPEAKER_01]: inflatable to things for the cause they have a bunch already for the pool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, we need the bigger ones for dad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were not big enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a pool, and I tried to like hop up onto this dinner too, and just want to wash right upside down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The whole thing just flipped over, which they thought was hilarious, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, it was just, uh, when my nephew's birthday, he had my niece spend a couple nights with us, so they all hung out her and my son, my fifteen-year-old, they're like, brother and sister, like, they grew up together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're super close, it's hilarious, because they, a huge couch in the two of them are almost sitting on each other, watching a movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and they've been like that since they were like, two, so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, I, I, I, I, I, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: crushed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, my gate can guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That picture meant atmosphere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember the post of that, but it was so funny because my brother wanted to shout out to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just my book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My brother bought that game years ago and we played it and all of us were laughing to just how incredibly cheesy it was because

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a rule that you had to say, yes, my keeper at a certain part during the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember what the specific rules were to it, but we took it seriously.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You do not play atmosphere if you're not going to take it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to say it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to say it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm given.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to wait because Tyler's focused in two topics at the same time is going to blow his mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let him find

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shut your face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all you can do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Get dude.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to find it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't have a game set.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's under parentology.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Arcade, Lord.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got two messages today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Out of the blue, two messages from people telling me how awesome Clare obscure expedition, thirty three is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just this this morning, I got one from Val's who's playing it and he's at a certain point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will never spoil that game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if it's twenty years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will never spoil that game for somebody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's at a certain point in it where a big event happens and he's like, what the f, I'm like yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's loving it, and then I got a mess from Ian who just finished it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Ari, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and how much he loved it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And thank me for recommending it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we talked about the ending and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And his comment was the writing in that game is so good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was just funny to get two messages this morning from two different people about that game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I bet it's cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think that I would enjoy the story just as much without playing the game like if I did like a two version of cutscenes?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hundred percent and then I I hope I mean I don't know if I help it would be cool to see if it it'd be made into a movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think there's some parts would be tough, but yeah, you would.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you should just because sometimes there's comments like I remember I did that with the last of us because I couldn't stand the gameplay, but there's small comments that characters make as you're actually playing or fighting or passing a certain location or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and I guess that's what the game you don't

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[SPEAKER_02]: really pay attention to where the information is coming from it just gets logged in your brain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is tough because there is a lot of talking like as you're just traversing through the areas like the characters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I had to think of something smart for the day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They do talk right between each other and there's things that come up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't even know how they would do a video.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are a lot of cutscenes though, so it would be, but man, the music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, the music is just, that's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's incredible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really funny actually because obviously my phone listens to me and

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[SPEAKER_01]: then shows me content based on what I'm talking about with different people and so I have seen different reactions to certain fights where the music kicks in and it's awesome because I remember being the same way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember in multiple fights just stopping like not even my controller's down just like what is happening right now because the music is so good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't play anything fun like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I played some space engineers when I had some time this weekend and I haven't gotten back into Path of Exile currently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I probably still will play a little bit of one, but it always happens that way from me with Pewey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hit my quarter and there's nothing new for PathVixL too, so I'm chilling waiting on too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of music, Camille and Camille Junior's music, because I don't know who does what anymore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The Camille team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Team Camille's Michael.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's on all the time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's all my daughter plays it during the half-time shower times they have their own path of Excel to play lists that they made and it's hilarious when you hear them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, uh, hang on, do I have a place?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, okay, hang on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, hey, gee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you're gonna do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, gee.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Play, jamanra from Path of Excel to or play, gen or play and they have like, they're saying bosses I've never heard of.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, but it's really funny and it's it's it is really really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You said oh yeah, it's amazing because like I'm listening to songs that I haven't heard yet or noticed because either you're in gameplay and I mean no offense to anybody that does any type of audio for the game, but I normally play quite quite right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm the kind of person where I'm playing my game the kids are asleep like I watch my movies really quiet because I don't want to wake anybody up, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm the kind of person where I don't like that we have two floors and we have an Xbox downstairs, but for some reason I'm the kind of guy where I like being around my family, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I am playing upstairs, even though I could play louder downstairs, I don't know what it is, maybe it's still that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not a phobia, but that fear of, you know, like, when you're an early parent and you're worried that your kids aren't going to sleep tonight or something like that, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where it's like you just want to hear if, you know, there's something that you need to be there for, I don't know what it is, but I like playing upstairs instead of downstairs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I always play quietly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't get to have the full immersed headphone experience when I play PoE.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so when I hear the kids blaring it, I'm like, man, this, I really like this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This sounds so good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I also, uh, I'm in the same boat in New Path of Exile.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, well, what do we got this week, and Pewey, at least to talk about Path of Exile for a moment?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Almost, uh, nothing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Path one was just like community stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just in our competition, uh, cool build showcases for high notes, high note showcase, build showcase of that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, at least they're getting content out there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Concept art.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There were three two patches in PC for the first game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just working my way through them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm at the concept art now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just I looked at the hideout showcase, but I didn't watch the video.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see secrets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Art.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Patch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: such as blight ravage maps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I saw this heart fix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I haven't actually tested to see if it makes a difference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The fact was that I was having problems in blight ravaged maps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was having problems in blight buffed normal maps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe hopefully helps in there too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what else we have?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How fix five?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Migrating characters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you migrated?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you do all that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that all sorted enough for you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't bother.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just because didn't want to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm on past you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not playing past one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see you, because you need it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Boss Kill event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this another winner is didn't it end?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't they already do one?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or is that in Path of Exalt II?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll pay attention to what I never do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Congratulations to the same people that did it really faster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny you say that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It scroll down first comment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It will be very nice to see Ben win this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing a boss kill thing and then I watch the boss versus boss.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's way better options.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I'm saying there's better bosses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could put against each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, but I mean, they got me through the list, but it's not a list, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They put the breach due to against a hundred omnifobias.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why not put the breach due to against another big boss?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know, against a hundred.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They should have what's it called, a riverhag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, they didn't, they didn't do a hundred at once.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were like staggered a hundred.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's not the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that guy has like multiple one shot attacks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like you're just feeding him to end at a time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm also pretty sure their systems would blow up if they throw on their bosses in there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, give me one quick sec here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... okay so what else the admin bring up to talk about any of the stuff so what are you got time

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, but I was thinking about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we always have stuff to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's something that people have commented on for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, every single league, whether it's been a four month league or three month league, we'll always talk about, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or one year league, that's, oh, that one's not going to get old.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's not sarcastic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not, but I was thinking today, like, they're kind of in this weird retinal GGG.

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[SPEAKER_02]: where their focus isn't on one game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So even when they used to have a four month league, there would still be focus on the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They would still have their posts about things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But now it's like, I'm really curious to see if they're actually going to be in a way doubling the posts that they make.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are they going to keep people that are only interested in path one, constantly interested in path one with their posts, whether it's boss kill events in concept order?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to keep that up for the full four months.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the names are on four months since, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And well, the path, and I know that this isn't the time to gauge how they're going to do it because it's their first time going through, but path to, it's just been dead for path to, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's been just so little posted about it for so long.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just, you know, that's, that's

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're only interested in one game, but you only have one game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The posts are still coming, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Even if it's just a filler stuff like concept art or other people's fan art, whatever it is, the posts are coming, but it's still about the game you're interested in, but now if they're splitting that up, I'm just curious if there's going to be actual dead dead time, like dead two months of we're not even posting about this game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully not, it kind of feels like it's so far, but I haven't really been paying attention to it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not really big deal to me, but I was thinking about it as we were going through.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, wow, yeah, there actually really hasn't been any news about Path of Excel too for a long time with the exception of it's coming out in the late August.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if they're trying to determine like what level of info they give before they reveal it or always what was used to sort of I mean it used to be just like clockwork right a month before three weeks before a league was coming out we knew we were going to start just getting pumped with teasers and a bunch of stuff and whatever they were kicking into it but we also we have also seen sort of a

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say decline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what the word would be, but a slow to they've definitely pumped it up in the last bit with regards to how much content they're putting out, but like they went through a stint where we saw nothing for like months like at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they are getting better at that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I would imagine it would just be a mix of both, but maybe not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you actually get into a two month cycle down the road where there is every two months, a new version of one of the games coming out, I would expect that the two months

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[SPEAKER_01]: leading up to that one would be primarily whatever that game is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the two months leading up to the P.O.E.

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[SPEAKER_01]: two one you would think you'd see more P.O.E.

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[SPEAKER_01]: two stuff in the two months then after that lead up to the P.O.E.

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[SPEAKER_01]: one one would be that I I'm not sure see well the thing is like I've

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[SPEAKER_02]: I only have time for the one game and so I've chosen the new game over the old game and I'm now getting in a way like it used to be stuff that I'm like oh cool but now that they have two games I'm getting content from the media like Twitter X whatever it is from from X where I'm like don't care don't care that's a you think that's a you decision well it's

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also, a thing where now a company is using the same account for two games, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So now I'm subscribed to something where I want updates, but now I'm getting updates about a game that I'm not interested in, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I go to Age of Empires and I can get Age of Empires for only updates.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I still think that that's a you thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that Path of Exiles making Path of Exile one in Path of Exile two or sorry grinding your games is making Path of Exile two and I

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[SPEAKER_01]: But whether or not I agree that they'll consistently keep that up, I don't know that there's a huge amount of people that are just all play one or the other, but not both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that the majority of their player base probably plays both and will play both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you split the two up, then you could also be in a spot where there's a lot less content coming out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So from there, and it probably makes more sense to just continue it from a single account, but I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm not sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it is a tricky one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know which direction I would go either, and I don't know if there would be a right or wrong way to go about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I have no, it is just personally.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, of course, it's a me thing, but there's, I mean,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not the only person that is ever going to care about just one of their games, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have people in our Discord that are saying they're only in the path one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't like the direction that path two is going.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not for them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So when it's time for path two to pump out all of its noise, do they like it's just going to be an irritation for them, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the point of signing up for social media is to get the information you want not to get the information you don't want.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it is one of those things where it is tough because you have to make the decision as a company as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't want to alienate one of your products, but at the same time you don't want to alienate it in the opposite way where you're annoying people with it too, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just a new territory for them, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I've just, that's just something that I've been finding out around the launch of the league and then as the league's been released, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been what a month now since the league came out, three, twenty, six.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, something like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just something that I was thinking about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's an interesting position for that company specifically to be, and especially because they've also gone through some pretty big inconsistencies with communication in the past.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're interested in your action, they're going to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a Path of Exile One player who doesn't want to play Path of Exile Two, because the direction it's going, I think that's a bit unfair, because it's an early game, and that's definitely shifting the way they're going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've even seen it shift.

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[SPEAKER_01]: whatever we thought their direction was change.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I can understand the idea of like, you know, when you say you don't have time, so you're just picking the one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then I definitely get that you're going to see stuff that you're not interested in because the fact is they are running both games and trying they have to right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They legit have to run both games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They can't have just.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not, I don't feel like somebody who plays Path of Exile One would be bothered seeing Path of Exile Two news because it's still, in the end, it's the same company and the choices and decisions made on one end will affect the other one, both that goes both ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that it's a bad thing for them to have both stuff come out of the same spot because I don't think it's always exclusive that something that's coming out or changing for Path of Excel too has no bearing on Path of Excel one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There are unique in this situation where how closely tied some of the content might be going forward depending on how tightly they want to hold on the path one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But to give you another example, uh, Namco Bandai makes tons of games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't give a crap about any of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You tell me about Dark Souls.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You tell me about Eldon Ring and that's it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, don't, I don't care about any of the other crap, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, look at who's the company that makes dragons dogma?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hang on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know what pops up on the screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't think of it though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Capcom.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like think about everything the Capcom makes, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but you can't compare those to grinding your games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, but, but that's just that's kind of the same situation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I could like sure it's a me thing that I'm only into dragons, dogma, but I don't want to hear about Street Fighter and the concept art of Street Fighter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I should agree with you if you were talking about very different games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Path of Exile, one of Path of Exile two are not very different games though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: true true, but it's at the end of the day, whether it's different or not, all I'm saying is it's

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[SPEAKER_02]: you're creating content where it's like, oh, they tweeted again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they tweeted again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if I'm not excited for that tweet, you're setting that precedent when the thing for me, like it was awesome having GGGB, the only company that made X go ding.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're the only company that I followed on X and every time Twitter went off on my phone, I knew it was news about the game that I played.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not going to be the case anymore unless they do decide to separate it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now can I make a comment though about that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So your reason for not playing Path of Excel one though is not because you don't like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's because you don't have time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to clarify that because that's what you said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what would bother you so much about seeing changes for Path of Excel one if it's not I think that you don't like Path of Excel one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not even a thing that you'll never ever play Path of Excel one again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's that you currently don't have time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're focused on Path of Excel two when you do have time since the new game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see the downside to seeing things

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I can't speak for you specifically, because whatever bothers you bothers you, but like, I don't see the downside as somebody who's not against Path of Exile One for seeing some of the content granted it might not be relevant to you because you're not playing it, but it's not like you're against Path of Exile One.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't follow Eldon ring on X anymore because I stop playing it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not that I hate the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just I'm not interested in anymore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I only want my phone to ding when it's something that I want to know about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can see them maybe doing that down the road when they do a full release if they feel like the two games are so far apart, but the thing is they're not when they make a change instead of Excel too, it has an effect on one and even one

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[SPEAKER_01]: hasn't effect on too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like there's so I know the argument I've seen it too, like that they are very different games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not going to argue that they're not different games, but they're not very different games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are, they are still, the path of XL two is a version of Path of XL one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just different, but it is not a very different game in the sense that

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[SPEAKER_01]: Street Fighter and Duck Dragon's Dog are very different games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: True, true, but this is also from my perspective.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Path of Excel too is reaching a whole bunch of other people that do not give two flying grabs about Path one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And some people might play path one would be like, oh, wow, this is way more hardcore than path two and I actually like how weirdly insane it is lack of information and all that whereas, but the still the focus of path two is bringing in new people and keeping new people and most people aren't going to care about the ten year old briekel right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know if people care about X or like if they if they use that I maybe they do I just don't if they use that as their way of getting content from a game creator

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, for sure, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, there's also the thing like they have on their form, you get that information on two separate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I can separate when I go to the Path of Exile website.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like the website.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yes, but then that's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now you have this company who's like, hey, we've been making this game for so long.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've been preparing for our other.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who do our other games website, which is only about Path of Exile.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One to get all of your Path of Exile tuners because our Path of Exile II website.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there a path of Excel to website should have what their content is?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pause.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you're adding that thirty minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will just say what just reiterate what I was saying is that the path of Excel to website should have a new section for path of Excel to specific names.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that is that I don't think they should separate their accounts, their social media stuff because I think the fact is you would see too few

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[SPEAKER_01]: pieces of content coming out, so I think it is still good and I personally think Path of Exile one stuff is still relevant to Path of Exile two's development and vice versa.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can see the value in having both, but it is odd to me that the Path of Exile two website is still sort of just a showcase website.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a here's your information website.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's odd, and it should be there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: News and announcements and stuff should absolutely be on the Path of Excel to website.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even if, and I don't want them to do this, they keep their terrible, two thousand forums version, but it's just the Path of Excel to one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: agreed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it is surprising considering it this beta wasn't rushed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, say, well, they only started in twenty nineteen point me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's just it is funny, but at the same time, like when if you and I were to put ourselves in their shoes and then, you know, we're going through

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[SPEAKER_02]: I probably would be of the mentality where I would have wanted this to be a separate entity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're interested in, you know, you can follow both.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know, yeah, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I would win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think it no longer like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like things clean like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like things all mumbled and chumpled together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could maybe see it when they are full-released, Path of Exile II, if they are like legitimately quite different from each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think that that's going to be the case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was always told that they were very intertwined.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's definitely less than what we originally thought it was going to be for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is a different game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's its own

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's its own game, but the fact is changes made in Path of Excel too, or seeing those changes come into Path of Excel one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know that as they're developing Path of Excel one, while they're developing Path of Excel one and coming out with new leagues, that is just like...

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[SPEAKER_01]: The, like, ugly duckling to the company, they need it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to keep it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like Path of Exile One, but you know that their focus is on Path of Exile Two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the stuff even while they're working on Path of Exile One leagues, I would be shocked if it didn't somehow also help out Path of Exile Two's development.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So nice job adding twenty minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's the second time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was actually frinking too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking why you were saying it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's a difference with the way that we look at content to how maybe other players might look at content because if we didn't talk about it every single week, it might bother you less.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying it would, but it might because you don't, you, I'm shaking my head.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, you're shaking your head.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, but keep going.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Keep talking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, in my argument, it's like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you, okay, so you're, you're comment and you're feeling towards Path of Exile One as you don't have time for it, but when, when you're talking about this in some regards, it sounds like you don't like Path of Exile One.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to hear content about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't care about the changes that they're making.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it can come across that you don't care about what Path of Exile One, but you're, you're saying though that it's just because you don't have time to play it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, but it's the same thing if I don't have time for a game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why would I care about it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know it just comes across as that you don't like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how it comes across.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hate it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have time for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so like I don't care if there was an update to formula one twenty three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't care.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Except that some of those things that could come out for Path of XL one impact Path of XL two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they make a path to each two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, but it may not now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It may later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It may be something that comes in later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Super, I'll care about it when it impacts the game that implies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that you would look at it differently if we didn't talk about it every week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, because the thing that's annoying me is my phone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Turn your phone off time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just turn it off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go touch some grass.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have been, it's really annoying because half of it's dirt right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the grass or whatever else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go touch your Nazi pan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to take a picture and show how insanely annoyed I am about this guy who I cannot name did such an apathetic job.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the responses that I get from this guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're not satisfied with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, it has nothing to do with satisfaction.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Come put, I'm going to do this conversation with you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know your face.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and name and like advertise hey look at this one look at this look at this guy see see all these weeds on it yeah we took care of these weeds farm here's here's my number you're gonna put your sign of my lawn up seeing what it looks like I don't think so but he has nothing to do it might not make a list yet have you not made a list like a business list where they're scared to deal with you

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the guys that I hired to, what did they do?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We hired them to do our roof and our door.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I swear, I'm on their list.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It takes them like a month to get back to me for the most simplest part.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They did the roof and the door.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They do both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a company that needs just a contractor, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So basically he shows up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's just some shirts, smiley little guy and then he gets his best friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get to your money's work for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I should check my lawn for weeds just to see, but I'm pretty sure there aren't any on there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, either way, good for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't twice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how many times yours was sprayed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's too hot to do any of that weed stuff now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He specific with the time for when he does it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how that works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool air moist, but not rainy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Send me the bill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just make it look green.

40:49.019 --> 40:51.401
[SPEAKER_01]: Although right now it's looking, it's not fully green.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mine's still green, especially in the backyard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the front you can see it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's creeping in from the sidewalk or from the driveway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The dryness it wants to get out there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, where the grounds thinnest underneath because it roots are the most shallow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm the same.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it starts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where my pipe runs to for the sprinkler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the grass is probably just turn it on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So this week in POE, they're like, my son's been playing a ton.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's both playing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm still playing right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he absolutely loves it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I've had to remind him, like, hey, man, like, this game's not balanced.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Some enemies are going to take way too long.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Some enemies are just going to be stupid impossible and you're learning the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's been very frustrated with some parts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm like, sometimes it's because of how you build your character and sometimes it's a pro and con between the type of skills you're using or the choices you made while leveling or sometimes it could just be that the boss is over tuned.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, this is like an anger management thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we don't know what it's going to be yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This isn't the final product, so don't care about any of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, I'm letting him on like on the kids little phone that they use.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's on P.O.E.

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[SPEAKER_02]: planner and he's always like figuring things out and he's like, oh, dad, you gotta make it on just dad, you gotta try the hunters.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, dad, you gotta try this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's learning how limited I am with the things that I can try because of how busy they are and how many buttons you're supposed to hit and when all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he's absolutely loving it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's going through rack two right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You just want to make sure you're growing the wrath of the hunters.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he has like four characters.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you should see like he's like the strong silent type like Heinz catch up commercials and when he beats a boss like when he beats Gregory with one of his things he's just like he gets his silent fist pump but it's super serious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean he just loves it and then you just like sits down with like a super straight back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think they'll proud of himself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like jumping up and down my daughter when she does something like that in Hogwarts, like a C.C.B.

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[SPEAKER_02]: rat and rock for the hundreds, millions of times yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And all of a sudden.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like jumping up and down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like with those old Nissan commercials right where they pause you where your legs are up in the air.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what she's like whereas all of us are just like, sorry, a little little pump and he sits down all slow and proud.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, but he's like, he's way better at me than the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so it's it's it's been a lot of fun, but he gets my mind going, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I start thinking and so I'm starting a theory craft because my son, I'm like, well, maybe vision would actually suit my limitations better than energy shield, or maybe armor when armor's worth being armor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm going through and so then I'm, you know, humming an horn about evasion and then I start thinking about evasion and energy shield builds and I've never understood that in terms of the game design.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because energy shield needs two prefixes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A new vision needs two prefixes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're going with ES and a vision, you're dumbing yourself down a bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: On every single piece of gear, especially if you still need life, which is also the prefix.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's got to be so frustrating to really want to min max a double defense build when you're you literally can't on your gear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you're focusing it on it so much on your gear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think like when my I did my huntress and I did have a yes, you're not focused so much on min max in the ES amount.

44:29.500 --> 44:36.225
[SPEAKER_01]: You're focusing on min-maxing your evasion with spell suppression, and then you're finding ways to get back that ES.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So your total amount of ES is much smaller than what you would do if you were focusing fully on ES, but you're finding, first off, evasion's super strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tighten spell suppression with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's even stronger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you're just finding ways to either lead your region that ES.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the thing is for me though, like when you're not focusing on yes, then I have a difficult time investing in how quickly it starts and investing in its recharge rate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's just I feel like I'm wasting my time investing into something that I'm not fully investing in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're a little bit more hybrid, I guess, because you are doing both, but I think the benefit is evasion in the game is so much stronger than armor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, having evasion, then when you tie that in, especially because of where you are with spell suppression on the tree, and gear, it becomes extremely strong, but yeah, your evasion number is much, much, much smaller.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And in path one without suppression or path two without suppression, I actually, I'm very tempted to strongly consider evasion.

45:42.591 --> 45:55.317
[SPEAKER_02]: Evasion was a pointless thing for me with my limitations in path one, but in path two, how evasion works against all projectiles irrelevant of their attacks or spells that's so much easier to actually deal with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and know what to dodge or what not to dodge.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I assure the melee attacks are a little bit different, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: If somebody's coming, you know, is that just a big heavy strike?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or is that going to end up being a slam?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't find out until it actually happens unless it's a boss fighting your familiar with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But there's so many rares in the game where you're like, um,

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[SPEAKER_02]: not sure so you can with evasion with someone like me who needs things a little bit more simplified or straightforward every melee attack you dodge and if you miss well hopefully it was just a standard strike as opposed to an AOE that evasion doesn't deal with and then the projectiles of course are great

46:34.017 --> 46:38.198
[SPEAKER_02]: you're always trying to avoid dots or ground effects no matter what no matter what you have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's consistent as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I like the I like the concept of evasion much more suits me much more in path to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I've been having a lot of fun with, you know, the things that Oliver's been throwing at me.

46:51.322 --> 46:55.303
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, being able to witness it is very different than just simply reading it as a skill gem.

46:55.543 --> 46:55.703
[SPEAKER_00]: And but

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[SPEAKER_02]: Evan, we do love your voiceovers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If it is you, Evan, we absolutely love it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, oh yeah, flame wall.

47:06.126 --> 47:13.847
[SPEAKER_02]: But there's just so many skills, but it's always different when you actually see it, try to test it and true in gameplay.

47:13.907 --> 47:16.508
[SPEAKER_02]: It despite the fact that he's still leveling, you actually get to see what it's like.

47:16.528 --> 47:22.869
[SPEAKER_02]: And you're like, oh, well, actually that, I love really like slowing characters, but attributes in path to are so

47:23.949 --> 47:25.810
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope they don't stay the way they are.

47:26.230 --> 47:37.756
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it makes again that hybrid of skills very difficult to deal with with how little attributes you get versus how expensive skills and items are without your boots.

47:37.796 --> 47:38.336
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like if I want to do temporal chains, I need a hundred and fifty five in.

47:42.958 --> 47:44.759
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's quite the stretch.

47:45.539 --> 47:47.980
[SPEAKER_02]: If I'm on the southeast side of the tree, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, a hundred and fifty five in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's, that's like half my investment of gear and all this kind of stuff.

47:53.262 --> 47:58.825
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking on PUEDB for how much intelligence you can get on items when they roll.

47:58.865 --> 48:01.686
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to make the max roll is in the low thirties.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, Oh, my goodness.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, this is crazy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I've been having a fun time in my head, theory craft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see my son do the lowest level of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Temporal chains that requires that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I could do the lowest.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And be a loser.

48:17.237 --> 48:19.880
[SPEAKER_02]: But there are options.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then it's still data.

48:22.443 --> 48:22.703
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so then I'm like, Oh, we'll be really fun to try this.

48:25.427 --> 48:26.127
[SPEAKER_02]: So, but I'm like,

48:26.748 --> 48:29.630
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, half the ascendancies aren't out, right?

48:29.670 --> 48:33.713
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot of effort to put in when there's no matter what content your characters are.

48:34.074 --> 48:39.758
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe not for you, but no matter what, the characters are done when the next league comes out, right?

48:39.798 --> 48:40.118
[SPEAKER_01]: For sure.

48:40.599 --> 48:42.000
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just what I want to do with my time.

48:42.040 --> 48:42.940
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't have a lot of it.

48:43.000 --> 48:46.103
[SPEAKER_02]: So do I want to play in game with something that's already working well?

48:46.663 --> 48:49.926
[SPEAKER_02]: Do I want to try in a different version of that and level that?

48:50.226 --> 48:52.047
[SPEAKER_02]: Or do I want to try completely new thing?

48:52.107 --> 48:53.528
[SPEAKER_02]: And what have you kind of fun?

48:54.129 --> 48:55.290
[SPEAKER_02]: Like this week, did you play?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I actually restarted a character.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's where I got it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a sorcerer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a coronal mancer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And no, it's not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's, it's a litch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's not a good ascendancy for the things that I, that I mentioned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you doing it now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No litch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't that the one that you have to end game right now?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't like, I don't have the gold to keep respecting for all the different ideas that I have.

49:24.673 --> 49:32.682
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to do one, like I'm trying to do one with Chaos damage and calling, and then I'm hoping it's just going to be all like trigger stuff.

49:32.722 --> 49:41.192
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm only going to cast temporal chains, have two others, two other curses trigger, and then I'm going to use a weapon skill.

49:41.792 --> 49:48.935
[SPEAKER_02]: So whether it's going to be a staff or a wand, I don't know yet, but just trying out different things and seeing how it works.

49:49.435 --> 50:03.300
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to try and scale to king hex and or impending doom and see how that works and just trade off, but I want to play with it for a while, but my other builds I'd have to spend way more gold than I have and if I don't like it, then I don't have the gold to fix it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to keep the build that's working and then I'm just starting a new one and going to see how it works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As you map and end game, the more it, like, as you get into more doing maps consistently, you will have way more gold than you need to respect most times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's that starting point of actually doing that content and consistently doing it for quite a while to get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you do end up with, like, I wish I get trade gold because I could probably respect my character, forty or fifty times over just because the more maps you do, you're just getting so much more gold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's nice.

50:36.568 --> 50:41.595
[SPEAKER_02]: And the the builds working really well, like I really like it is just my, um, meaning instability built.

50:41.615 --> 50:46.381
[SPEAKER_02]: I have like thirteen skeletons running, but I don't know what it is, but it's, I find it boring.

50:46.401 --> 50:48.243
[SPEAKER_02]: I always thought I was right.

50:48.263 --> 50:52.469
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think, but I think the thing that's boring is the cooldown.

50:53.049 --> 50:53.169
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like when I'm doing a million, yeah, when I'm doing a million instability build and path one with zombies, they just run and die.

51:02.712 --> 51:05.073
[SPEAKER_02]: And but like I'm responding them when I respond them.

51:05.113 --> 51:09.494
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, but there's no, like so it's just like they just come and go when they come and go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're on their own, they're in their own world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Whereas in path two, I'm literally by myself for five seconds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why, but it's boring.

51:19.417 --> 51:47.072
[SPEAKER_02]: like it sucks like if they were all on their own time or and they would run and go and do this and one person died early because they got hit early this person you know died a little bit sooner later because of a dot and this person didn't down till the what is it the infernal legend drain killed them like it's it'd be really cool if they were all on their own timers i don't actually know why they're not i've never quite understood that people have explained it i've heard people explain it it still makes no sense i don't get why they can't just be on their own timer

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just never told me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see pros and cons to both sides, but what's the con curious?

51:54.537 --> 51:54.877
[SPEAKER_01]: What's that?

51:55.317 --> 51:56.158
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the con, too?

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I have, let's have the six rivers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the con to them each having their own?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What they, they all run in and they die at different times, but they each have their own three, five second timer, whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the dialogue?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know the downside to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that makes it more fun as a minion build.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, granted, I would usually play my minion builds to try not having them die, but like you're doing it specifically to have them die, but I still don't understand why they wouldn't, why does one affect another's timer?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, that's just never made any sense to me.

52:30.939 --> 52:34.101
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure the reason, but I just don't know it, or I've never understood it.

52:34.581 --> 52:44.906
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, in terms of consequences that would actually be consequences in gameplay, I think the only thing that I can think of is this cool down is just a neat mechanic to try, and you can plan around the mechanic.

52:46.050 --> 52:57.094
[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe the reason that it's so gody right now is just because minions are just in a dumb state for the last nine months eight months, but my menu only build like that I did in the first one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually didn't mind it mind it, but I think I told you like way back then that my biggest problem was it was

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would not die, but it was boring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could do the content, but I could do the content slowly, and it was boring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that, to me, is just what a minion build sort of is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're a little slow, but they are a bit boring, because you're playing an ARPG, which is typically your press and buttons and doing stuff, and a minion build you can set it up where you don't have to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they do typically, for me, at least, feel a bit boring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's interesting because they even have command skills to make it less boring for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they give you like, hey, here's something you can do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's other skills that they have that are like, they have a poetry choice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A variety of debuff skills that you can use depending like whether it's cold, snap, or frostbomber, whatever it is, or it's an arranged fire.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, there's stuff you can do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's surprising that it is boring, but I do agree with you that it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, obviously for the minion instability situation, and I know the cool down's there ahead of time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like, oh, like I'm surprised by it, but I am surprised that I find it boring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it is for five seconds every however long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would get boring pretty quick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you should see the damage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it in game, it is worth it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For sure, especially because I have temporal chains and they're moving.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not in danger, but I don't know what it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't put my finger on it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm excited to see what they come up with in August.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I still remember Jonathan's quotes on quotes, but like his words on like when he was talking to try about how there's certain archetypes that

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[SPEAKER_02]: don't even work well in the game like I'm really hoping of course minions are in that list for him and so I'm really curious to see what comes out and I'm really curious like my theory crafting brain just needs all these sentences available to I guess find it worthwhile to just go in and start playing some more I know they're all going to get reset and even as a standard player these are going to be in a different standard world but

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm enjoying it, but at the same time, there's part of me where it's like, okay, I'm not going forward with this with my time because it's beta, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or because not because it's beta, but because we're at this stage of where we're at in beta, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're at that two-month, or we're still, we're a way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're six weeks away from the changes, but that six weeks isn't enough for me to bring this character to end game and then really get to experience it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I, and then of course,

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[SPEAKER_02]: even if I do get there and I just squeak into maps.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, now the game's changed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's kind of like I met that stage where the theory craftings all in my head.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, but then I ended up restarting a character anyway, didn't I?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know what I'm feeling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I forgot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here I am.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like going off on this and I'm like, Oh, yeah, I did restart a character.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where'd you get it through?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so far.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm probably not even at G&R yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I just, I just found Twinkle Toes, hanging from the tree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the Hooded one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The Hooded one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It games been out for nine months.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you actually know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, that's well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That for any of those that are waiting for the official release, the hooded one is sin, sir.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Spoil for you waiting for the show ready.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Episode four and they're the smartest people around just for the record, not people that well, I would bet there's not very many that haven't tried it and then decided they're waiting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe there are, but I would bet that's relatively low.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I envy them because everyone else who got super excited for the beta, but forgot that it was GGG.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was big.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Bad joke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what though?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just a list of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm having a great time and I'm really been enjoying the patch or the game since the EFG, whatever it is patches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And those people who are chilling are probably having a blast in POE one, because I was surprised how much fun I had in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I had thought that I wouldn't go back, but I did state when we talked about it, that the reason I would go back is because not that path of Excel too is bad, but path of Excel too is just not, I can't sink time into it right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But path of Excel one's still in a great state, like it's super, super fun to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Bentley.

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[SPEAKER_02]: New League events we did too because I miss just that nice zombie build.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just have that army around me, but like they're beefy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're tanky.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They can do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like in path to right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I'm running around with a whole bunch of cutout.

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[SPEAKER_02]: papermen you know what I mean like little like stick figurines they're super weak and uh i just sorry for the introduction but yeah i just like i miss my my miss my zombie build where i'm like still very common around me i know it is and they're just like

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[SPEAKER_02]: around and their beefy and I'm in the middle of it because they're following me nice and tight thanks to meet shield and I'm still enjoying the differences between the game like meet shield isn't meet shield.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have two supports called meet shield one in each game, but they're totally different, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Poison actually a different invasion actually a different I'm like in that energy shield works totally different swim

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, nice job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's wrap it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Forever XL, three or two, just naked tags.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tyler record days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Patriots will see you in after dark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody else will see next week and three or three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have a great week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.

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[UNKNOWN]: Bye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.