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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Forever XL, I'm Justin A.K.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tags, and I'm Tyler Recker of Days, and I heard you that day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, we're here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Technical difficulties that no one will know about, but us, it's now eight hours later.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we are here, Episode 342 of our podcast together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks everybody for hanging out with us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Big shout out to our patrons.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, everybody who resubbed up this week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Patron gets your access to our afterdark.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's our podcast after the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tyler and I just keep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jive in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're Jiveers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, what does that put us?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, who says Jive?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder who says Jive?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think any more people is Jive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it should come back to fun word.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a safe little hide.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I was never a fan of Jeff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's too cool for you back then My son said rock on the other day, and it sounded weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but with his hair that had to kill like that's perfect Because he's got this sweet the sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny because My my son's buddy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got like it's such a long bullet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not a bullet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, it's just a She's a long hair, but short in the front

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, obviously it's a mallet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, and then all of a one day and this long time ago now, he went, he went to have that mallet too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, yeah, I'm sure whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like let the kids figure that out among the kids and there's a lot more interesting here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It goes to be, I mean, when we went to high school, you weren't even allowed to wear glasses unless you wanted to get made fun of you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it just, you know, kind of found that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's... Yeah, great too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was just like when everything like there was just so very specific way to look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so anyway, that aside, it's much better where we live in the world for that kind of culture and acceptance and so anyway, he was going mallet and the awesome, have a good time and all of a sudden all of his buddies had mallet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just the one kid who already had a mallet, but like as soon as Oliver changed that and then even the buddy's mom, she's like, I wish I wish my son's mallet was like your son's mallet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can never like everyone's got it because your son had it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like no, he's too long It's stupid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It always gets in the way of crap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's such a pain when he doesn't dry properly and because it's like down there was waste, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not my son's but my son's buddy So it's just kind of funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he rocks out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where the rock is from?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What was he doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was actually in a video that I just saw the other day, but I didn't realize he said it and it was from summer time, but I didn't realize he said rock on and I was like, it got me weird like I don't remember the last time someone said rock on unless they had super short shorts in a 90s movie, and but for wherever it was he he heard it, but he's got this thing now we're starting when he's nervous and he gets nervous often he's putting the hair in his mouth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this longer yet?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I told him like there's no second chances.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no nothing Your hair goes in your mouth and cut them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it can't reach.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's working.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One small snip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That kid's like nope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Never again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The three is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where that came from though, but oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You said so a month.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 90s term.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jive 90s term.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because we drive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We rock on and drive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember jail.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, jive was older than us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, good talk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good talk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to our Path of Excel podcast of Jellon and Jiven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How's it going to get week?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where there's been nice dog trainings been awesome, dogs doing fantastic cats are still a pain in the butt but the cute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The cats are at that weird adult age where they're still kittens but they're adults.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they still chew on stupid crap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then you forget that they chew on crap because they're a lot more chill in all the other areas of their life now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, why are we locking them up at nighttime?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, where are we doing this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all of a sudden, you come around the corner and they're like, your phone's charging cable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, but we watched, um, there was my movie pick last night on newspaper day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we did, uh, I picked next gen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a great movie, it's a Netflix original, it was one of like, back when like, companies like Netflix were like still coming out with their originals, and that was a cool and unique thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of like remember when what was the Kevin Spacey show the very first house of cards, I think it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: when they first started doing the originals like I feel like nice gems from like way back them okay and uh anyway it's a movie like real people are animated or what is it animated uh not not a great story not a great premise the things that they go through or shall but whatever it's still fun for some like my daughter just loved that movie we better have it she didn't she wasn't rasping any of the concepts so it was fine uh a kid and her robot and having a good time anyway there's this dog

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[SPEAKER_01]: down a little pug thing with Massivized called Momo, and Momo swears a lot, but it swears all bleeped out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay, so help me, I'm gonna take my beep, beep, beep, beep, but the robot can translate it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you just get the beeps, but you hear Momo, and then when you come back from the adult perspective, it's just nonstop barking, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you hear from the robot's perspective, it's a bleeped out version of all the swearing the profanity filter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ray, Ray.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's hilarious because the kids we've seen at four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I don't know when it came out like eight years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just go whatever would be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Goodness me nine years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so anyway, Oliver technically seeing it for the first time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess he could say because, you know, and he just loves that kind of leap humor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was really funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My daughter, she remembered like all the names and all the characters and everything that happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She hasn't seen the movie in, like you said, nine or eight years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have that kind of memory and then like I go to the like puppy classes yesterday right and she's like so what did you work on this week and I'm like I don't remember Don't remember these names these minor details from eight years ago and I'm like

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what I did this week, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What did I hear?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What I'm supposed to do exactly what I was meant to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I check the booklet every day because I don't remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, it was a good week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lawn, it was, it was a moist week, just.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a moist week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, Lawn desperately needs mowing, but it's going to happen today because it's nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and my wife's gone, she's, she's left for good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, she went to Kelona for the weekend with her book club.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you got the, well, there she gone for the weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, left yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She'll be gone today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It comes back tomorrow night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So one of those where it's like too short to do anything special.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know how it's like, you've gone away and you want to like do something with the laundry room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I forget what it was upstairs or the venting or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we have a closet that we still since our flooding five years ago now haven't rebuilt with the shelves and all that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, you can never have games nice, but, you know, as nice as you could have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's nice when you can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a still haven't done that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, yeah, when she's gone, I'm going to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all of a sudden, it's like, you're like, a day to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's like, come back to board.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I can't, I can't, I can't do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you get these slets started to thought the count.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, it's been starting for five years, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So don't day and a half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to cut it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So sorry, Aaron.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you know we could?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, a lot of hanging out with kids, they're going to brochure shop and day suckers by themselves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get out of here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't want to get me out of that kind of money.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Things they would come back with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This week was good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was, uh, same as normal with work, but yeah, I'm in a good head space.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Life's been good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Good stretch in working out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Kids are all good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We planned, uh, Sweet stretching and working out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know two things I'm doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You go to your instructor, you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what do you mean these sets?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just stretched.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm stretching every day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I stretch every single day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I work out three or four times a week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, it's not anything major, just because I can't, yeah, but I'm working on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I've lost what we talked about, which is grauga stretches or just like, how my shoulder hurts as I'm reaching for the alcohol stretching.

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[SPEAKER_02]: no specific to, oh man, I can't remember, perispinal muscles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's stretching that and working out that specific to that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not doing things that are for the rest of my body right now, like I'm very centered on trying to get the core flexible and strengthen, but it's been good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been feeling good eating better, lost a lot of weight, which is great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So blood pressure is good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm healthy buddy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My back still suck.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But life's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been watching season two of the pit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Frick that show is good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my goodness.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love I love love love that show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we're planning a trip.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to go to the island in May.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you're not going to tell Josh, are you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I know it's back to the process.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the series on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we're going to see him for one day and then we're actually going to go up to Parksville and hang out on Parksville for a weekend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we can be good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't think they can make it because it works.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, but some Parksville house, the water, my wife wants to go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Visit on the east side or west side of the island.

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... proxbos and sort of like the east side it's like yeah because you go it's normally going to drive all normally would go to an eye mode to get the park's bill but we're gonna go to uh... victoria so we can go to landford and then we'll drive up the so it's like on the whatever it's just northeast from where uh... landford is so

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it should be nice, but yeah, works good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Life's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been I played our private league.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought our privately.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, no, no, we're going to talk with a private league, but remember when you texted me and I messaged you back with a private league this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember the content, but I remember messaging you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just like, I was talking to you about my frustration with the sign, but I think it was on like Monday or Tuesday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was the end of our privately.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought like, oh, our private league's done on Monday, so there's no point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, with the start, I checked out, wrap way quicker than I normally do for my private league's, but I did play the private league, but then I played the game called Windrose.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my goodness.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is the most fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is the perfect game for me right now because it is win deros, win deros, it's single player for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's sort of a survival style game, but you're a freaking pirate on a, you can build new pirate ships.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You are fighting in the ocean, you're fighting on land, you're building a base.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my goodness, it's so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So so much fun and it's but it's another one of those games like it's third person ex but yeah, it's third person like exhibition 33 where it's not a huge development company I think their companies like 20 people or something buddy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It looks incredible.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It plays so well It's in early access, so you know that doesn't bother me too much, but yeah, it's been it's been a ton of fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just very chill

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if you get something that tells you it's early access when you load the game, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't pay attention.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good question.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was just slap in it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't think that they do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not really sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That being said, when you get into it, the only thing that you would go is kind of early access is just the fact there's more content to come.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The content they have is so good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's, I've been playing it for quite a while and I'm still not even towards the end of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just fun exploration, but being in a

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[SPEAKER_02]: Flip and pirate ship fire cannons are oh, yeah, and there's an option when I was in the in the in the ship Or you can hit B and instead of just the like they have really good music plant They the guys on the boat start singing a shanty They just start and they're like original songs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like for the game and all the guys on the ship start singing and that it's actually like like an Akapai it's so good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You love your Akapel.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I had some fun playing that, but yeah, it's a good week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Works, works busy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Kids get another freaking day off, so that's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They've had way too much school.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been, you know, they can't do solid weeks of school.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, no, but just out of four day weekend for Easter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, now, pro D day, we need another one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can have later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We saw my wife's birthday this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we went to a local seafood restaurant that she absolutely loved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's gone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a pirate segue in there based on what you're talking about, but it's gone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So back to your week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, it was a good man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Life's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Things are good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Kids are good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, freaked me out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You went Robody just yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I finished your last.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, but then because of what we were dealing with before we started recording, then you were quiet for a long time and kind of still on my god.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, he has 0% disk space and I'm glad you're well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Use well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's we got this week in P.O.E.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did look.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my lawn also.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The weather space.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have had like great weather for growing lawn right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is rain on her brain sun rain sun and we're not hitting not having for one of those funky springs where every third day is in the negatives at night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, where's the opposite where it's like roasting hot like it's been yeah Yeah, we've really been in a very great space for that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So truth just truth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good I looked up this week in puey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I did so let me help you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You do what there was no in here

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I put it in the wrong one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How did you put it in next week?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I put it in next week's hangout.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, well, you got all the same stuff, so no big deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm switching it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I'm switching it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Screw you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I went through all this effort, but it's there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I see it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now it's there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you're welcome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they came out with a g patch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the first thing I was going to bring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you had it on the top of yours anyway.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was for purely one, 320 g.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't read every time of much of it, what's every time, it's I don't know what it is, but every time now I hear every all of our car for all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What did I say?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Burr.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the G-patch for whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so today we are doing no accents.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad you are not are doing well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead, sir.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't actually care too much because I'm probably checked out a path of Excel until POE 2 comes now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we, I'm done with the privately, and I'm gonna, you know, I had a good time playing it, but I don't want to play right now, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: They had a general improvement lowered the minimum time, so the minimum time that the infinite hunger will spend underground when burrowing to three seconds from ten.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did not know that it was a minimum ten seconds that that stupid thing would stand or ground.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what that fight?

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[SPEAKER_02]: The big fat sludge guy that goes underground.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's terrible, but he had a minimum of 10 seconds underground, that used to be his minimum, and they've lowered it to three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is one of those things where it's like, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thank you, finally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then also, finally, I mean, this, this wasn't come out like a league or two ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's been forever ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but, you know, I'm glad that a happy day I didn't know was 10.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I always wondered, like, what do I have to do to get this stupid thing out?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I never need to keep doing this idea where, oh, we go figure out the McKenner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just play with the game a little bit and you'll figure it out and say, like, okay, well, I need to be in one of those discelled.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just gotta stand there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you can't tolerate it too, because if it touches you, you're instantly dead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: People are like given advice, like, hey, like, no, no, you just gotta do this to procrements.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just gotta do this to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the day, it was just like run around with your head cut off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait for 10 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm dying all this time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I didn't even bother looking at the patch notes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I did read just through the improvements I didn't care about the bug fixes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The mirage challenge league stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't matter to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what they're going to do with barrage with regards to core, but that one made me laugh because I was like, wow, that was as an old boss fight and they're just now like, I just want to know like, how did that come up now?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What was the conversation where one of them's like, oh, I hate that boss fight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's do it right now Yeah, so anyway, thank you to whoever changed it because that's a nice fix They have a new community manager, which I am super happy they've done I don't know much about this person Kelly congratulations Kelly new lead communication manager for Path of Exile

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been it's been a role that's been really needed for a while, so I'm happy for her and happy for them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen her already posting stuff, so that's great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's overseeing all their, whatever, everything media related.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, early.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Congratulations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't say it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to say to congratulations, Kelly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was the Jay patch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't care about because it's just one thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it doesn't really make a difference.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They was actually came from that Jay patch for Pwe2.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh, no, it's yeah, came from a change that they made in Pwe1.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it wasn't anything different.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But they did their announcement of the announcement of the announcements.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which are awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the joke of announcements of announcements.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have one quick thing to look up here quickly before we get into it just moment Did you watch the The video the that's the complete opposite of just a moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm asking if you're watching it No, we just Looking something up, but the Peely wiki website is taking for

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you can't answer a question.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you're doing that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just asking if you do justice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I pay attention to people when I talk to them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not what this is about at all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not allowed to ask you a question when you look something else related.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did all I didn't even hear you a question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just heard a question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even hear the content.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you want?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's on the wiki bossing?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's on the wiki?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking up when the last league was P.O.E.1 or P.O.E.2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on the wrong wiki.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Good thing you asked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ha ha ha ha ha

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have what you want.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, POE 1 just came out, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because if we did our privately, I think we did a privately, what a month in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that one was one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we were a little bit late, but yeah, it's yeah, POE 2.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: POE 2.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, that's.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I just loaded D. Okay, keep going.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I found it 0.4.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The last of the druids look on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking at their patch notes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm loading the POE2 wiki and then you type in league and then you scroll down and it says, fade of the vowel released to December 12th, December 12th, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're past obviously there for a month, but did you watch first after you watch the trailer that they did for it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It just came out with the one, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the architecture.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It does look cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Looks like a whole city comes up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It says return of the ancients.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I should know what that means and relationship to other POE1 or POE2, but I don't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't only think I don't like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're doing the thing on Twitch on May 7th, so I'll be finding it to watch the thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then it's like three weeks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's on the 7th, but then the game is not available until the 29th of May, which they don't normally do that long.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Typically the game is missing itself next week or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I'm not really sure, but I assume that's just related to the fact that they're delayed and getting this done and I actually don't mind them being delayed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't, I hope that they don't be delayed, but then go we're going to go back to our four months schedule like just be delayed just do your thing come out with it when you're ready to come out with it, stop sticking to the schedule.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't think it works.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, they've this is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it's like I'm I'm excited for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking forward to it, but like I don't care what schedule they'd hear too, but it never looks good when you're like, okay, we weren't scheduling properly before now we're going to stick back to our guns or going back to the old school and they like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you even make it eight months, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did the one in there and then they don't ask you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then right, and then now they're starting a second, second, it's already like, but well, well, what was it supposed to be March, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause January, February, March, April.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so I should have this kind of out middle of April.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so now it's going to be coming out at the end of me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the next or month and a half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, hopefully I'm doing my math, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's, it's, it's, but I like, I don't care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not a criticism in regards to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I personally don't care, but it's just one of those things where it's like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: boy who cries wolf, but in terms of hype and marketing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like how many times is GGG come out when I love these, these, um, where they love the livestreams, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But how many times have they have a live stream?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the games released six to seven days later, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They typically have had that one week buffer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the game still, there's some things that have been very different, the amount of patches that change the amount of concessions that have been made, concerns the communities brought up that for some reason, GGG,

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[SPEAKER_01]: hadn't discussed in their meeting you know like how much changes is the point within one week so now like how much can change I mean with the last period to league was supposed to be massive endgame stuff remember they had the big change mid league right in regards to how endgame worked because they were going to be adding so much more endgame stuff and then they didn't even touch endgame but then there's been no European we won

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[SPEAKER_01]: right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then there's been zero communication about that ever since.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's nothing that they they've they've told the community out right with the exception maybe like I don't know any interview to a specific stream or something there's been zero acknowledgement about like hey yes we're going to oh no we're not announced silence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have these kind of

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[SPEAKER_01]: things there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for me, I'm looking forward to it, but videos like this don't get me hyped at all because I'm like, well, anything can change anything can happen and you've kind of shown a little bit of apathy towards that in terms of like keeping the hype going for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking forward to it, but I also don't care.

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[SPEAKER_02]: for me, hype is like, I don't really get, it's not a thing for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I get excited about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I probably move on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In these cases, I watch the trailer go like, oh, sweet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Saw the date of May 29th.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be like, oh, cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll look back into it on the 27th or 28th.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because yeah, I'm not going to be like thinking about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll go play something else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Which actually, I actually, I'm fine with that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm enjoying when Rose so give me some more time to be a pirate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The thing that I just don't, I don't get is, uh,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was trying to think this through my head because I don't actually care about the timeline.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All that bothers me is that you set a timeline and I wish that I've said this for years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just stop giving dates, stop saying timelines, do your thing, get it together when you want to come up with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's what they were trying to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They said instead we're going to stick to a schedule and that just means we will release only what's ready.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then I know what has to happen in that conversation is as they get closer to the date, they're like, we're just not quite finished this yet and you have to make a decision of either we're not including that in the update or we push the day and I don't understand because they said previously that their plan was we're sticking to a date, we want to have a four month release every four months and we're going to cut the stuff that's not ready.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I know that it's obviously been, hey, this stuff we could finish, which needed a little

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then keep that going forward.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, come out with the up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking, well, I'm playing this windroats at early access.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I played plenty of other early access games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've never looked at them to go like, oh, when's the next time for this update?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just play the crap out of it while I'm enjoying it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I play something else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's how puies always been for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I come back every single league.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I play it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then I get tired of it or bored.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I move on to something else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I wait for the next one to come out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that I ever like held on to this idea of like every three months I have to go play a new league.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just that's what they were doing at the time, but I don't think they're able to keep up with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I would rather them just come up with a really cool, big update.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would actually rather wait longer to play more content than

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[SPEAKER_02]: To be able to get like this micro version of it every four months, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean you get I mean last league was nothing to me Came over the druid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't care about the druid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now what now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm waiting eight months for the next thing Right, but that's kind of the situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've put themselves in right sure you can say we're only gonna come post what's or Release what's available

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they're only doing updates once every four months, switch, sure, maybe that's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's a little in terms of frequency, but at the end of the day, it's eight months until your next one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, eight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm saying like, because they're updating it once every four months, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if let's say you don't come out with the druid again, lastly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, now it's another four months, which is, you know, eight months from the previous one or whatever, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's say now, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was now eight months ago that they were talking about end game changes for six months, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't come out with it again this time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's that's, you know, we're talking like two leagues.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's eight months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's two thirds of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So because they'd only do the three updates a league or a year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: what you don't come out with is a huge weight and it's even that much more like for your game to come out officially and properly tested.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't just want to, okay, good, had that good league, let's launch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe maybe it will, but you know, the idea is that it's been in the game for a bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been fine tune for a bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're happy that this is going to be our final product for launch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so when you, you put yourself under that pressure of unless you want to have a really long beta which it already has been unfortunately for them, you know, you can't put yourself in that catch 22.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, for us, it's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't care, but they obviously do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know because you come up with these promises of, well, you come up with promises of dates and then you don't adhere to it and come up with promises of dates and you don't adhere to it and you don't adhere to it and that's the beginning of GG and that's one thing that we've never understood is like, bye, you know, I really, I like the idea of them doing what they need to do to give me a bunch of content to play for a while and then

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will do it like every other POE league and I'll go play something else to come out with something else, and it's a little bit even more so now where I can play Path of Exile more often because they're trying to do this POE 1, POE 2, POE 1, POE 2, but when you have a delay of let's say a month and a half, right, we're looking at roughly a month and a half on this one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What does that do to POE-1 now?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you pushing POE-1's next one back a month and a half?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to try and adhere to the same thing for the Path of Exile 1 players that, hey, in four months from when that one came out, it's coming out, but that's not going to line up any more with your two month on two month off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm not really sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am curious the direction they go with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't make sense for the company because they treat both games as one game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In terms of hype and hype cycle, there's kind of, it seems like they're hoping everybody's playing both games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my assumption is they go from, okay, this is when POE2's launch is now we're doing two months for path 2, but like you said, there's a lot of people that aren't going to care about path 2, so now you're just delaying it for what, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then same thing, there's going to be some people that don't care about path 2, and keep path 1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and delays or delays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, curious how they go about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they have, my guess is that they're treating the company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like company hype.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're not advertising GGG, but I'm just saying like, there seems to be this consensus that everybody's playing both games or that's what they're hoping for, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd hear you two those people that play both, I guess it's what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'd be interested to see what they do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to be really fun to play this league because I would like to get back in a few weeks too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm hope for me, I'm really hoping they do something to the campaign, but what I'm kind of curious about just for fun to sort of watch is as...

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[SPEAKER_02]: the path of Excel to Lee comes out, what is their, what are they saying now moving forward?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What are they doing with the next path of Excel one, the next path of Excel two?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, are they going to try and hold on to this idea that we're going to do a four month cycle or are they just going to give in and be like, we'll give you an update when we've got something good, which I think I would rather myself, but I am curious to see what they, what they end up doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they might have, um, yeah, I'm curious, like the, um, what you may call it, the reveal might have some of that information there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully there's some acknowledgment to the delay and maybe they explain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not like any of our business, but, you know, that's how hype and trust and communication works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully there's something for the people that are curious like us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I am really curious what this league is going to entail because I guess I'm extra intrigued.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not extra excited, but extra intrigued because if you're willing to delay by a month and a half, what is it that you're insisting gets in this patch that can't wait another four months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then kind of makes me start thinking about okay well how many more patches are they hoping for like to me you have this this teaser of this oh she's vacuuming okay forgot my kids are home it's Friday like a hamster's dying but um you know we have a hamster yep yeah we have hamster his name is honey and really cute and uh it was for the birthday right

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you have the statue right in the ground that grows and grows and then it ends up being an entire city not a criticism but just one of those weird things for me where I'm like Oh man more big areas You know what I mean I'm like I think it's all city, but it looks so cool and then you have like all the the they do a really good job with their cinematics So music and they do a really I really would love to like if we ever go there one day for like a GGG tour

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like a part of that to be kind of like explaining how departments communicate with each other, like, you know, the music departments communicating with the animation department, and then how they're like, okay, this is what we want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just like, like, is it just a quick email and then just like, uh, fine, that's good, okay, now draw something to that or whatever, like I want to know, you know, how they do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's got their own system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, they do a great job with it every time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So whatever the system is, keep it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's no way that's not Act 5.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's no way that's not Act 5.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're doing Act 5, do you still not do the third ascension?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Toda, is it Toda?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Trials of the ancestors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, ancient ancestors?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're connected, no, but also I don't know anything, but lower, so it could be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but you have the third way of ascending.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're assuming there's not a fourth, but maybe there will be a fourth, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm guessing there won't be, but I didn't think about it as Act 5.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did they say there were a total of six acts in the end?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The goal was six, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, ages ago, but I'm like, my information's going back all the way to 2019, and they were still thinking, like, two campaigns, one end game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But originally, the plan was that campaign was supposed to be the same length as the GPU.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We won campaign, but less acts, just longer acts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now who knows and who cares right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do they care that the Canadians is the same like probably not Well, they have not done a good job of getting them to the same There's not done but again like remember if you we won they did things like remember in like your hargan or target Whoever you're getting the idols for just be one idol per sewer There used to be three sewers and then they

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[SPEAKER_01]: just huck all the idols into one sewer and everybody's like, oh, yay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so like they could do that kind of stuff at any time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the size of the maps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you can even reduce the size of the maps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And but then you have to work on monster density and then, you know, the value of each monster, the power of each monster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so like it gets, it gets tricky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, like to me, the first thing I think of is, okay, there's act five, whatever city that is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't introduce a city.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then it's like a small area of an act.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're getting ready.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, they're getting ready to the introverts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my assumption.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I think about ascending, hoping that there's a way that I enjoy or don't hate ascending.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we have classes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lots of them, still to go, or I think four classes left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm thankful to still a couple classes that don't even have one ascendancy yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All three, because there's some that have, every single one of them has at least two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The ones that are out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are missing all three from whatever the monk isn't, shadow, or whatever, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are missing all three of the whatever the warrior is not broader, maybe?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are missing all three from whatever is sharing the mercenary spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's still a couple incomplete ones as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, on their POE2 website, there's the assassin, the gladiator, okay, morauder and the Templar.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Those are the four classes that aren't even released, like they're not even out yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's not one ascendancy for any current.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the non-sourcer one that I, and I'm normally?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, the, the which one?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the which.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah, that one has four.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, same with the warrior.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The warrior has Smith and Katava, Warbringer Titan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, it has three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so anyway, that was just one of four because they have that we are the odd lich one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, there's a lot of classes to look at my saw comment on when I was just scrolling at the video for somebody I think I think I saw it on the video where somebody just was yelling out that they think they saw swords in the trailer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like those things though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that was true, but I mean yeah, we have a lot of weapon types still to come out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I'm excited for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they haven't really teased much about what the content is, which I'm fine with too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be fun to see that on the seventh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For me, I really would just like to see a faster campaign.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would actually be fine with them doing less on the end game if they made the campaign better for me to play more classes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For me, that's my struggle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As I want to try something, so there's still some things in P.O.E.

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[SPEAKER_02]: too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't touched the gem, gem, gem, or gem, or something, it's a necessity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Never tried that one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's something that I haven't touched because I don't want to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to be level again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, I think I guess now that you can change your ascendancy, it's not so bad, but I'm not touching standards, so now I have to wait to play a new character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for me with the big areas, like that's just a personal preference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think that's bad game design.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it depends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we've mentioned many times, we used to be able to like, oh, sweet, I have 15 or 20 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do some progress, whether it's campaign or end game, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Path of Excel 2 doesn't really adhere to that, especially through the campaign.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's maybe they don't care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're looking for their game to be more of a, like I'm sitting down for a little bit longer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that's going to be the game I'm going to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for me, that's just the preference of the smaller areas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But as a standard player, how and game functions and just the design and how the screen hopping slash scrolling works, I'm hoping and curious to see what if anything's going to change in that regards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, was it last puey to league?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was because of the Druid remember, who's the guy?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I

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[SPEAKER_01]: well-known social media guy does, um... i forget his name anyway he's he had that tweet ages goes like drew it confirmed or drew it i've played it confirmed or whatever it was okay remember that and we were talking about like while anybody can say that you know and i mean i mean i mean i don't know who said it he had other comments again this time um... things like this uh yeah like end game changes confirmed blah blah blah oh come on you can't be blank at statement

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, well, that's what we were laughing about last time too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was saying, like, oh, that spoiler, I hope GGD doesn't mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he would, and then you were like, oh, well, it was, you know, we'd be like, we've played a sass and confirmed, but it's not necessarily saying it's coming out for this specific patch, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my chair squeaks really loud in the mic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to get you some some spray.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure we have some somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I don't know where we left off on that part, but I'm excited to see what they come up with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I'm kind of just for fun, because I'm curious to see what that looks, what they, you know, what's their language moving forward.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, I mean, good luck to Kelly, this new person that's in charge of communication.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was Nikki, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was Nick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's Kelly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not Nikki.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Kelly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Kelly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, good luck to her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully she can help.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of these guys reign it in when they're in interviews because Chris and Jonathan are notorious for just saying things which I I appreciate about them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's fun because they're very candid, but yeah, I feel like dates and times should just be a no-go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, be good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw some comments when the trailer was first revealed or the teaser was first revealed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People super stoked super hyped all this kind of stuff, but then I saw people like

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[SPEAKER_01]: talking about their time management.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, what do you expect me to get excited for?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, in some of the comments we've said, like, it's not a trust-worthy timeline or the contents, not trust-worthy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I kind of see both sides.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of a tough situation to get dropped into.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And hopefully the entire team doesn't take it offensively, they just take it and go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny, I'm kind of as just as a fan of the game and the company looking forward to beta being over because for me, I keep seeing things from what else needs to be done, what else needs to be added, what's their timeline going forward, what, how much more do they have to get done, and

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[SPEAKER_01]: When the game's fully released, you don't have to do that anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like when Path of Excel 1 has a new patch, you're like, okay, what's it going to be?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, neat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you're not expecting quality of life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not expecting anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just what's the next thing going to happen?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the new content?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm playing zombies or Reaper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not expecting them to make any changes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not expecting them to the end game change.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not expecting anything except a new league to play whatever I'm familiar with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because there's so much in complete content in path too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm keep like, okay, is it gonna be this or is it gonna be this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, this this is what came out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is still yet to come, you know, acts ascendancies, how to ascend skills, weapon types.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just looking forward and again, it'll happen when it happens, but just as a fan, I'm looking forward to the day when it's just a hollow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you're saying that, but you, because you said out of beta, but do you mean out of beta where they're just saying, okay, now we're not in beta and we're released or when they actually have all of that content in the game, regardless of when beta, because I think there's been talk of them releasing it out of beta even before all that stuff's done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I think that's, I don't want them to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think that would be a ridiculous mentality if they did have that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, um, no, so I'm talking both all the content so and beta's done because then it's created as yep, x classes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, items, gems, gold.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have skill, you have all the skills they're constantly making new skills, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's not, yeah, but that's not what I'm talking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not talking like, that's like saying, like, path of X, I want them waiting to a path of X, I'll one has all that skill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Same kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you, they don't know when they're finished.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying, like, all the skills that they have planned for release, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, like, if, for example, let's say one weapon type has five skills.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another weapon type has 30.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, one's got more to come.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, but my point is just like I'm looking forward to that time where it's like, okay, the only things that are coming are things that they have on their back burner that they want to come out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the game itself is out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The fans aren't like waiting for anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if the end game was released this way, I wouldn't be waiting for any changes because beta's done, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd hope they change it one day, but whatever, life's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking forward to that day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Still joined.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very far away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I don't think they're anywhere near that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's tough because at the end of the day to me, that's what being ready for your official launch is your contents ready.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, but I don't think they have one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think there is no official launch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I don't think that they have an actual release date.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that they've made comments before that were the same thing as what I've

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For me, I don't mind when they take as long as they need to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to play it for as long as I want to play it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to move on to something else until they come up with something else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm fine with that cycle because that's just how I played Path of Excel forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, me too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking, I hope it's a good release for them because they take a lot of lack for a lot of different things and, sure, on a bad way, but in a way, kind of deservedly so as well, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't be, like, say one thing and do another and back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it just doesn't instill trust and, unfortunately, it, a kind of also ruins hype and marketing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so, but I mean, that's on them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They configure all that out in time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, um, for us, just looking forward to it last night, turned on a gate in the Vage of Empires, enjoyed it, went to bed almost immediately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't even look at the stats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's so, it's like, we heard a Vage of Empires.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't even talk about the privately, um, I tried playing the private league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I couldn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's your reason?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I couldn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I died like five times, but I couldn't even get past Barutus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it sounds stupid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Barutus, once, why?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it wasn't because of the sign.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It might have been because of whatever skill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, because I have the same, like, I just wasn't holding things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it came to two things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I've never struggled at this stage of the game in an art corps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a couple times where I die to the league mechanic because the league mechanic that you get swarmed pretty quickly So depending on the skill that you're stuck with you can get swarmed and cornered and then if it's like the magic ghouls or something like that Well, it's like it's it's tough to get rid of So there was I think one time where I died to the league mechanic just being so swarming and I go right league mechanic Okay, that's you know pay more attention to that but every time I died

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[SPEAKER_01]: with something stupid, not game stupid, but like I'm completely zoned out, I'm just staring at a screen for getting that I'm playing a game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it could have been that the Holy Flame totem is really bright.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du- du-

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[SPEAKER_01]: and it's really not with SRS.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can put on the Raven skin and it's nice and dark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even see it, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not used to flashy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it really could have been that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then there are some other times where like with Brutus, I was just doing purifying flame at that stage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, because my totems kept dying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And no joke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just standing there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd already finished hitting my flask again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was ready for my my last little like, you know, it's like, okay, I'm running around running around and then, you know, you hit your life flask, man, a flask and you start casting again, you're at that safe spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, okay, this would be my last little like aggressive of stint he'll be dead after this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and I'm just I hit the buttons and then all of a sudden I realized I'm dead like I just completely zoned out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I couldn't tell if I was just like really bored if things were too flashy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure like some stints was one and some stints were another, but I couldn't get past, birdest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would like five attempts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sure some of it was boredom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of it was too flashy, but I don't know what it was, but I just could not focus at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I tried my five.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I'll try again, but I mean it's not fun though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't it's not no point in playing it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did play.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to 9 maybe I did not like the sign.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I actually really did not like really query or relic quest or whatever it's called.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wish I had gone just ascendant because I didn't like it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just I tried I really really tried to find a way to make it work, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: I never found out a problem with damage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just felt squishy, like a lot of the time I felt squishy, and it didn't, it was really hard for me to compensate and fix that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I ended up dying to, I didn't get to maps.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was doing Act 10, getting ready to, I'd done all my tendencies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, so you get Act 10 all the way up to the point where you're maybe going to go fight to,

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's the end ball to lava?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Catava, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was at that point and I had descended three times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, okay, good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm all ready to go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My resist were fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I went to go and get the kill average, the boss that you gotta do before him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he just one shot me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had been fighting him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: His health was going down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Find everything was going great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and I was moving around.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was staying out of his stupid beams.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing was hitting me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And one, just sort of loop around him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't see what it was, but it was just a melee attack.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was poof instantly dead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, no, not a crit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and then I was like, man, I'm not doing this again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I just, the siren was, it's always a fun, no, not fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Fun in

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like to to to to set some weird restriction on the private league is fun sometimes for us to try, but I'm like, what are we doing?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Why?

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is our own fault.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I am 50% responsible for this terrible 50% version of what I'm playing right now, but also do you see somebody already hit 100?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I didn't

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[SPEAKER_01]: Congratulations to the bar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to add mods and I wanted to make it so self-founded and I wanted to What the damage is still sticking hard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you crazy the fact that somebody hit a hundred already is nuts to me?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I cannot believe somebody go to a hundred.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's quiz and raise your lash arm with us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if they're a patron they're out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Roger.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Roachers, congratulations.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is very impressive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was so close to trying to stay in the top 20, but then people kept playing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought I was good to when I stopped playing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, all right, I died in ninth place, somewhere on ninth place.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, I thought the league was done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was a couple days away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like sweet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then people started posting a discord with, again, thank you to long for his bot, making sure it works in our discord.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm watching and I'm like, oh, yeah, nice top 20.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I checked it on Monday when somebody did it my new Tuesday and I thought that was the end of the league and then you and I talked and I was like, well, don't play.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's you know, if you're not having fun like I'm the same way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just I died.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, no, no, that was enough pain for me and then people were like, hey, you're not going again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, no, what's off guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it was, it was fun to play, it was fun to play with everybody, but God, I hate hardcore, I hate to sign on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just many things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like Eric for not putting in the help that's your help, like you wanted.

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[SPEAKER_02]: People think me, they're not listening to you on that one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would you love what your character, you want to send it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did, but I didn't get there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, but I was excited for what it was going to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I loved the stats that were coming out of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was surprised with how much damage I was going to be able to get out of my, um, watch McCollot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I was all, but I was excited for the character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there wasn't anything unique if anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, anyway, I, um, like I was excited for what it was going to be, but uh, and even like the leveling process was supposed to be a lot easier statistically than what I was getting with my previous builds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I honestly, I'm just guessing with what I was saying before, but why didn't work, but I was excited to see it go and see progress.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was going to be a lot tankier than what I was doing normally used to and I already have a strong preference for tanky and I

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, to me, I was stoked about the Sion only.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Looking forward to POE 2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was tough because I didn't want to play POE 2 while we were doing the path 1 privately because I didn't want to like enjoy POE 2 because I already, you know, I've had my comments about being bored of path 1 in the past.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I didn't want to play the game that I found interesting while I was playing the game that was already found boring because I didn't want there to be the dichon to me and the value there between the 2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was only playing path 1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so hopefully that helped a bit, hopefully let me try five times instead of three or four, but hopefully people enjoyed it because I'd like the community stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of frustrating and disappointing to me that I'm really having a tough time engaging with the original game itself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, apologize.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I apologize because I really enjoy hanging out with the community and seeing the shit chat while we're playing the private league and all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, just didn't work out for me this time and I apologize.

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[SPEAKER_02]: sometimes you die.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Good luck to everybody who's still playing in it and hopefully I've everybody had fun the did play or not whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's wrap this up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I use said you were playing age of empires.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was gonna ask you the why are you not reading the stats screen?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's like the best part of age of empires.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was too tired.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The stats?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's exactly right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how tired I was that I didn't look at a stat screen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's why you play Age of Improved.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's wrap this up forever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've settled 342.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just naked takes and I'm Tyler record of days.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Patrons will see you in after dark everybody else will see next week 343 is that even after or is this still before the

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[SPEAKER_02]: and now it's been no even before then so yeah we'll see you then look for more information on the website foreverx.com we've a very fun discord pop in there say hello patreon other ways for the podcast you'll find them connected summer