PoE 3.30: Too Much Loot?

0:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Forever XL Them Just Naked Eggs. [SPEAKER_01]: T-Boom. [SPEAKER_01]: T. I'm Tyler Recker of Days. [SPEAKER_01]: Episode 370. [SPEAKER_01]: Did you know that? [SPEAKER_01]: 370. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a good episode to have. [SPEAKER_01]: That is. [SPEAKER_00]: You sure that wasn't the last one? [SPEAKER_00]: Nope. [SPEAKER_00]: That was 369. [SPEAKER_00]: 69 was in New Zealand. [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. [SPEAKER_01]: And now your home Tyler has returned from New Zealand. [SPEAKER_00]: I love this sweater. [SPEAKER_00]: Very nice. [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks, man. [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I actually didn't turn on the moving mic so that a good. [SPEAKER_00]: That's perfect because I knew you for some actually quite like it too. [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was a big fan like before when you were saying like you know with your POE stuff you'd be like a man like [SPEAKER_00]: I like when it says pwe, like I like it when it's like just a thing and then, you know, when you know, you know, so at an ex-alcon, of course, there's a whole lot of if you know you know is because everybody's wearing the stuff but like my favorite ones were the same ones that you really like like the fact actually I didn't see one Valorab shirt, I don't know, which would have been really cool to wear in retrospect, if I had known what everyone else was gonna wear, you know, like we're in a different dress than everyone else.

1:06 [SPEAKER_00]: But one that really stood out to me on a regular basis was any of the way point ones. [SPEAKER_00]: The way point ones are really good. [SPEAKER_00]: So that was my phone. [SPEAKER_00]: That's the only one I wear. [SPEAKER_00]: The way point one was really cool. [SPEAKER_00]: And so when I was looking around at New Zealand stuff like, yeah, it'd be pretty cool to have like a, like, actually something to wear from New Zealand. [SPEAKER_00]: And this was one of the only ones that I could find. [SPEAKER_00]: And then like all the gift shops had all the same stuff at all the same price. [SPEAKER_00]: But this one I liked because it's a Kiwi. [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, we share actually very similar regions and topography. [SPEAKER_00]: We don't have all the volcanoes, but it's still very mountainous and very green and everything. [SPEAKER_00]: They just have 10 degrees on us, right? [SPEAKER_00]: So they have palm trees instead of us.

1:46 [SPEAKER_00]: But the two, man, I got the two. [SPEAKER_01]: Two, two, plus it's a good orange. [SPEAKER_01]: Like it just looks really nice. [SPEAKER_00]: Cool, thanks. [SPEAKER_01]: Hang in. [SPEAKER_00]: I forgot what my pets are like. [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome home. [SPEAKER_00]: She was, [SPEAKER_01]: Mims was hanging from the door handle again. [SPEAKER_01]: Of course. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's pushing on my hands. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so Tyler literally just got home today. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, hi, Kat. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like just got home today. [SPEAKER_00]: What time are we at? [SPEAKER_00]: 65? [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, we got home three four hours ago. [SPEAKER_00]: No, crazy. [SPEAKER_00]: And we spent high. [SPEAKER_00]: No, I missed you too. [SPEAKER_00]: We spent, um, [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of family time together is that we are totally okay giving the kids like impromptu video game time Aaron was downstairs playing Dreamlight Valley.

2:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the game That's like their permit like their GG, we'll pretend GG started at GG [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I've seen your whole where GG starts these forever games. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Gemly Valley is Disney's forever game that just keeps getting updated and updated and stuck. [SPEAKER_00]: Like console or what is this? [SPEAKER_00]: down really well, cross compatible with everything. [SPEAKER_00]: She, I just kicked her off the downstairs computer because it's the one that has all the good recording stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: She just goes upstairs. [SPEAKER_00]: The upstairs desk stopped, desk topped play, but if she wants you to use the Xbox, she could, and it's pretty seamless, it's pretty awesome.

3:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Nice, we're welcome back. [SPEAKER_00]: Travel was good to hope, and you got to enjoy what is like a decent amount of time. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, do you think it's a tough day? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a tough day. [SPEAKER_00]: So one thing that I was trying to blow my my kids minds with was, oh yeah, hop speaking to Hobbiton. [SPEAKER_00]: Look at this. [SPEAKER_00]: Did you have the warm beer or whatever it's called? [SPEAKER_00]: They have some really dead. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So, no, you're not even going to believe this. [SPEAKER_00]: This is a changing bug, though. [SPEAKER_00]: When this is cold, it's going to have the rings of Mordor on it. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay. [SPEAKER_00]: What about the beer? [SPEAKER_00]: What's the problem? [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I don't drink beer. [SPEAKER_00]: At beers disgusting. [SPEAKER_00]: I've tried it so many hundred billion thousand times to try and like my wife would just love somebody to drink beer with but that's good She's gonna have to murder me or cheat on me to have somebody that she can just like Mary and beer round and enjoy a good beer with that's not gonna be me I've given it so many chances so many there's maybe one Belgian beer that I like 20 years ago I'd probably think it's gross now [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, you do the Hobbit and tour, which was I thought it would be cheesy Oh, she's excited.

4:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry. [SPEAKER_00]: I thought the Hobbit and tour would be cheesy, but cool like I'm Aw, like the kids I forget what it was after we did Hobbit and there was one day like we walked around But loads with the kids like we have Auckland memorized by foot and My kids were asking tons a Lord of the Rings questions all of a sudden like I [SPEAKER_00]: Who and where and when and all man only a silmo really in terms of the answer them let me Aaron was like in heaven because she got like a like half an hour to herself Right asking questions and then we're walking downtown Auckland and then this total nerd and some American accent is rambling about Lord of the Rings Which probably annoys the crap out of every New Zealand person, but it was something [SPEAKER_00]: And so anyway, we go and there's a lot of really good quotes in order to ring.

5:07 [SPEAKER_00]: They did a good job with a lot of these one-offs and We're at Hobbit and then part of the price is you get a Free beer and then you get back. [SPEAKER_00]: You're finished the tour. [SPEAKER_00]: You did the tour, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I'm sure it was the same like that was like, I'm quite a while ago now though that would have been like six years 2019, so yeah [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so they've actually added a lot of stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: Like they've done a lot to expand it. [SPEAKER_00]: They have like 48 or something Hobbit holes now, not all that you can go in, of course, and even add a trolls, man. [SPEAKER_00]: I saw the picture. [SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty cool. [SPEAKER_00]: Did I share a picture? [SPEAKER_00]: Do you send the picture in our stuff like that? [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, cool. [SPEAKER_00]: And so [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so they've added a lot of really cool stuff, but at the end, you get the free beer, which I assumed you had at the end at the end at the end of the catch fell.

5:53 [SPEAKER_00]: And, um, so I'm like, well, I don't like beer, so I'll give my free beer to Aaron. [SPEAKER_00]: And then they have non-alcoholic for the kids, so the kids got two apple cider and they're sipping away and enjoying it, and Aaron's got this, and I'm like, okay, well, you know what, at least let me try it. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so, I mean, I gave both of mine to her and I'm like, firing, firing, firing, so, you know, I'll try it, I'm in Hobbitton, right? [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm gonna try it, I'm in the green dragon. [SPEAKER_00]: So I try hers, and it's nasty. [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever, there's like three flavors she can try as she chose to. [SPEAKER_00]: So I try one, it's just as nasty as all the other beers that exist, even though they're all nasty in their own special way. [SPEAKER_00]: The second one, I try, I'm like, that is delicious. [SPEAKER_00]: What is that? [SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, it's just apple cider, but it's an alcoholic version.

6:38 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting one, which, so, remember when Mary or Pip is like, they come in pints? [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what's that? [SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, this my friend is a pint. [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, oh, they come in pints. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting one. [SPEAKER_00]: I got to do an, I'm getting one quote in Hobbiton. [SPEAKER_00]: in a bar in reference to an all-collect drink that I didn't know existed did anyone notice nobody but my wife okay wife did and because she is such a high critic of myself it actually counts yeah that counts but I actually got to do a [SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting one in not just a relevant situation, but like the exact situation.

7:24 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was legit. [SPEAKER_00]: It was legit. [SPEAKER_00]: I was so excited that there was a beard, not a beard, an apple cider. [SPEAKER_00]: Just so good. [SPEAKER_00]: Then I could have. [SPEAKER_00]: So I went and I paid for my own. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like screw this. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm paying for it. [SPEAKER_00]: And Justin. [SPEAKER_00]: Even if New Zealand Vancouver were identical, I would move there because their taxes included in their price. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe only Canada and United States, does this ridden off of English taxes not included. [SPEAKER_01]: But it's always surprised. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you got to math, but come on. [SPEAKER_01]: If it's 1999, they say $20, please. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, okay. [SPEAKER_00]: And that's it. [SPEAKER_01]: I do remember that, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: It is very sweet. [SPEAKER_01]: Good time. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go. [SPEAKER_01]: But you had a good time for that last little bit then.

8:05 [SPEAKER_00]: The it was it was phenomenal. [SPEAKER_00]: We did so many really cool things and [SPEAKER_00]: Very cool. [SPEAKER_00]: The kids are just at that perfect age that I mentioned at the beginning of the trip, but it's really nice to actually see it come through where there's just so many seeds that are planted with appreciation. [SPEAKER_00]: Like we do Hobbit and which is really cool and does its own thing for what people do when they're capable of in fantasy world and storytelling. [SPEAKER_00]: But then you do like the Glow worm caves and you just get a really cool appreciation for nature and differences. [SPEAKER_00]: But then you go and we did T. Poia when we saw Haca dance and [SPEAKER_00]: We had a guy, our tour guide, he's the only one that had face tattoos, and he's like explaining so much more of the New Zealand culture and history to us and what every part of his tattoo means and why and But the kids got to soak us so we got just so many aspects of the trip, but one thing they do a really good job of [SPEAKER_00]: And there's a lot of fine-tune things that, you know, you can get into like a political science debate about, but they do a, in regards to comparing it to here, but they do a phenomenal job at integrating their culture into everyday life.

9:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Like every single sign has their, their native tongue along with English, every single sign. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: So that's, that's really cool. [SPEAKER_00]: And I really really enjoyed seeing that. [SPEAKER_00]: So we did know that it was in your mind right now. [SPEAKER_00]: This is normal for it's just normal, but not during podcast time. [SPEAKER_00]: She's just because she's a scar. [SPEAKER_00]: Is this her first time seeing you? [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't been home very much yet. [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't done much since I've been home. [SPEAKER_00]: So she's having a good time. [SPEAKER_00]: But no, we had a wonderful time. [SPEAKER_00]: And as a parent, like I don't think it could have been better. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's great. [SPEAKER_00]: A phenomenal, phenomenal trip to see your kids' eyes, just keep growing and getting bigger and their hearts and their questions.

9:52 [SPEAKER_00]: They have, I was very pleased. [SPEAKER_01]: Nice. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, very cool. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it's nice to be back. [SPEAKER_00]: Do you have a good two weeks? [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. [SPEAKER_00]: I did. [SPEAKER_00]: It was, uh, thank you for this, uh, bounce pad. [SPEAKER_00]: This thing is awesome. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm crazy. [SPEAKER_00]: The my broader pad of exile desk. [SPEAKER_00]: You're mad. [SPEAKER_00]: You're welcome, but I was actually quite surprised by it because [SPEAKER_00]: Everything there was crazy over price, which is it kind of sort of gap, but like it would have been cool to get you a hood or something like 90 bucks, man, New Zealand bucks, and it's like, so I wouldn't wear it and clothes are always tough anyway, because what if you know, you know, you gained 30 pounds and you didn't want to tell anybody and all of a sudden I should have bought you like whatever size and said I got you another size, and I just, you know, ruined life for you by buying the wrong size.

10:35 [SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, it was one of the only like, [SPEAKER_00]: non-clothing items left and I don't think you're going to go to sleep with a stuffy and if you wanted to stuffy I wasn't going to get it for you because of 50 bucks anyway but these mouse pads that were there [SPEAKER_00]: We're like the only thing that was, I mean, I went shopping on day two, so the store was empty, but they're like the only thing there, but like for the size of them, that was $35 New Zealand dollars, which is around 25 Canadian. [SPEAKER_01]: That's a, it's crazy, and it's cool. [SPEAKER_00]: And it had two other variations that were sold out, but I think that would have been the one that I picked anyway, like, that's pretty sweet. [SPEAKER_00]: The other ones were a little bit more in your face.

11:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, you know the only thing about the most but really cool is when they design them with the main design right in the center of it It kind of is too bad because Yeah, if you were keyboard so like that's the only thing that I was like man, they kind of shifted it a little bit Yeah, do the corners do the images like the edges or you know something do or just have it so yeah, yeah, I agree Maybe the thought was people wouldn't use it as a mouse pad [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure, but I will, because it's freaking awesome. [SPEAKER_00]: So now, hey, I would like to shout out all the winers, any new listeners, then you're like, uh, you didn't like talk about the day. [SPEAKER_00]: So we don't know, we don't sometimes know. [SPEAKER_00]: We've done like 400 episodes, and we do like 30 minutes of viral crap.

12:02 [SPEAKER_00]: We like to catch up whether you like it or you don't welcome. [SPEAKER_00]: It's nice to know you like it. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, everybody secretly knows. [SPEAKER_00]: But everybody needs something to complain about. [SPEAKER_01]: But if you do not comment about it, I think that that's good for us. [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's a benefit to us. [SPEAKER_00]: So go ahead, please tell us how much you love it. [SPEAKER_00]: The point though is this might be the first time in forever where our IRL was P-O-E. W-O-R-D. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay, I don't get it. [SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean? [SPEAKER_00]: Because you were there? [SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, we were, you know, we slightly talked about the convention in merch for a little bit. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I will talk. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but then Hobbiton and Glowirms. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm glad you guys had a good trip, but it is also League Launch.

12:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, let's get to it. [SPEAKER_01]: League Launch on Friday. [SPEAKER_00]: I've had a chance to play, so I just want to know everything about your experience, how it was, what you're doing, and oh, I got, I got, I got, oh, I was so, okay, good. [SPEAKER_00]: Nope. [SPEAKER_00]: Hi, MIMS. [SPEAKER_00]: She just laid down in the mouse, and I think she highlighted everything, and I wanted to make sure she didn't accidentally stop recording or quit. [SPEAKER_01]: So, Cubans of Ambrai, I think is what it's called. [SPEAKER_01]: is the new league, Path of Exile 1. [SPEAKER_01]: It's out. [SPEAKER_01]: It came out Friday at, um, what is today? [SPEAKER_01]: Yesterday. [SPEAKER_01]: It came out yesterday at, okay, Saturday. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's been about a year.

13:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know you been left on the third. [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't get a fourth. [SPEAKER_00]: We arrived on the fifth. [SPEAKER_00]: We just skipped. [SPEAKER_00]: But now we have like 40 hours of the 14th. [SPEAKER_00]: We left it 3 p.m. on the 14th and we arrived at 2 p.m. on the 14th. [SPEAKER_00]: Makes sense. [SPEAKER_00]: And now we got 2 p.m. on the 14th. [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't mean to, um, no, no. [SPEAKER_00]: So it came out yesterday at, I think noon our time somewhere on there. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't get to play it at launch. [SPEAKER_01]: I had the most frustrating day yesterday trying to play. [SPEAKER_01]: It took me, I think it took me about four hours to complete act one, which [SPEAKER_01]: was rough just because I kept getting called away there's too many things going on for work.

14:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, not a game time. [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not like league names and eggs over to no. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay games in a good spot. [SPEAKER_01]: We'll chat about that. [SPEAKER_01]: But no, I just kept getting called away. [SPEAKER_01]: To the point where I was like, thank God, this isn't a normal Friday for us recording, because I did not free up for the whole day. [SPEAKER_01]: So [SPEAKER_01]: It took me a minute to get into Bath of Excel. [SPEAKER_01]: I got my lead launch going. [SPEAKER_01]: I decided that I was going to play ones and only because I'm going to blame them, I think. [SPEAKER_01]: Somebody meant, you know. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think. [SPEAKER_01]: Say it for anything except for, or I know, how it's not horror or whatever, but, [SPEAKER_01]: No, there was something about me and a wand from like a long time ago I think is that something about that triggered for me.

14:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, I haven't played Wands in forever. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna play Wands. [SPEAKER_01]: So they're a little bit of googling and looking up what people are doing with Wands and so I started playing with Planting and it weapon. [SPEAKER_00]: No. [SPEAKER_01]: This is the first time Tyler. [SPEAKER_01]: I've ever played a build where I know What the hell your camera just I turn it back on. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I've showed you the shared I've showed you now We are an audio. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: We are an audio only podcast new listeners supplemental video is just it just comes from a three We don't care about it. [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to understand, check out Spotify [SPEAKER_01]: they happen automatically so they get them oh I don't set them yeah that should be our thing hey spotifies its sponsor us just because we sponsor you know we'll talk about their their time sense anyway time sense so okay okay so I know this is the first build ever where I have known from almost the get-go that I'll never be able to play this build with you [SPEAKER_01]: It is, it is, I've never, ever played something so flashy and so screened just like what on earth is happening to the part of the point that I got angry and then spent money on mtx to try and fix it.

16:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's just talk about the league. [SPEAKER_01]: It's, um, yeah, anyway, we'll talk about that in a second, but I know Connecticut. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, league, it's all the blasts. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's all the blasts these days. [SPEAKER_01]: So league lunch was actually very smooth for them. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't, I don't know what the queue was like, but by the time I got freed up, which was only maybe 45 minutes into the league, I had no queue popped right in. [SPEAKER_01]: I started right up. [SPEAKER_01]: Everything was great. [SPEAKER_01]: People were chatting in 2021 with which if you're new to listening to us, that's where we hang out in global 2021 or on discord. [SPEAKER_01]: But people were, yeah, it was it was going really well and people weren't having any connection issues. [SPEAKER_01]: I think there was some part of the time where there were people getting disconnected.

16:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't experience it, but I also was my own disconnection because of phone calls and work. [SPEAKER_01]: But, okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so yeah, for me, it rolled out fine. [SPEAKER_01]: I did hear some people saying that they're getting disconnected, but it didn't seem to last for too long, at least that I noticed. [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, the new league, Covins of Umbra, is it's, it's really cool. [SPEAKER_01]: Like what they've added with this thing where you go find these fates and then you use them on the bosses. [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of fun because it means that every zone, you, you have the option to be [SPEAKER_01]: making a stronger version of the boss fight that you're about to do, and that's in every single zone, right?

17:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it was necessary. [SPEAKER_01]: I actually don't think it was over tuned, like we've talked about that in the past, where they've amped up the damage or, sure, whatever. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that it's necessarily that it's over tuned, but just that you're putting yourself into a scenario now where [SPEAKER_01]: your normal damage or defense might struggle because, you know, the fight might have been surveilled, you know, right. [SPEAKER_01]: You knew what that fight was before, but so I don't think that's necessarily overtuning it because [SPEAKER_01]: I'm choosing what I'm adding to the fight so it was fun though man like imagine the fire which in the coast no I don't I don't I don't I don't fighter with the face no I refuse to run past I was like no no no I want to know what's happening I want to see what I'm going to get a terror like you literally have nothing [SPEAKER_00]: And she's fireballing you from the sky with the right angle of view and heck now.

18:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, she has a vanilla move, I swear. [SPEAKER_01]: Then most bosses do like, yeah, she's not a fun fight, but I did fight her up with fates because I was like, well, I'm gonna do it. [SPEAKER_01]: The thing of it, the one thing that is cool though, tie is you could just run right past and she can't even attack you because the way that this this feature works now is every single boss is frozen until you click them, [SPEAKER_01]: Any, any zone, that is the boss that's for the mechanic. [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, each boss at the end of the axe, obviously. [SPEAKER_01]: But every single zone has a boss, but so it technically you could just run past if you didn't want to fight it because it would never activate because it can't turn on.

19:19 [SPEAKER_01]: So it was cool because it made the boss fights more fun, like you were, and then you were getting, it was really easy, at least I found to keep up with resistance stuff because you can also pick which fate you want and sometimes it's like, you know, we'll drop body armor with resistance or it tells you what the reward's going to be when you pick the, it gives you, so it'll say like [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, um, so there's some, there's some stuff that you can, but not it's pretty vague, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, um, a wand with no attack rolls, like it's so it's not very specific, but you can pick and choose and then at least helps you fill it.

20:03 [SPEAKER_01]: You're, uh, stuff, currency with nuts, like I've never, ever had so much currency coming out of, uh, so you could play with it. [SPEAKER_01]: What did you not need to? [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I, I think I had like 80 or 90 alchemies. [SPEAKER_00]: Orbohok means when I finish campaign like that You are treading dangerously close to my favorite most anticipated subject So you'd be very careful where you go from are we talking loop just yeah, we're gonna talk about loop Well in your time just yes, but in your time so the team because I've been purposefully avoiding it a tiny bit So when [SPEAKER_01]: I had a lot of currency, like, really, really large amount of currency.

20:54 [SPEAKER_01]: The, let's talk to the loot. [SPEAKER_01]: Segway achieved. [SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's really hard because, like, they, the loot is better. [SPEAKER_01]: Their loot is 100% is better. [SPEAKER_01]: It's, it is way better. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just weird because they, the goal was to decrease. [SPEAKER_01]: how much loot was on the ground, right, which it's probably doing overall, but then you fight a boss and it just shits out faded rarers. [SPEAKER_01]: So you're still sitting there. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so it's it's kind of tough to see what it's like without the fading, I guess, without right without the league mechanic. [SPEAKER_01]: You don't it's hard to tell the difference except for the fact that it's all yellow instead of white now. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I get, well, they are because it's dropping a lot of rarers and the stuff that's dropped as a result of the fates, if it rolls with, so if you've done shields, have a chance at your, or we'll drop with, uh, keep to, I am, I have to message my wife on quick thing, but keep to.

21:49 [SPEAKER_01]: If it says like they'll drop with resist, then when it drops, it will say faded shield. [SPEAKER_01]: Instead of just a normal shield, then you'll just know that that one [SPEAKER_01]: you start to see a lot of rarers dropping, not necessarily as you're going through the campaign, but I felt really, really good about my gear, but also I was way over-leveled. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think I've finished the campaign at 70 [SPEAKER_01]: five seventy four seventy five and that was not me trying to stay in the seven over two I ruled right out of like I never had a delay at all I went finish my third mercenary and [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I was very over-leveled.

22:36 [SPEAKER_01]: They're a nursery. [SPEAKER_00]: What's that? [SPEAKER_00]: I said, did you? [SPEAKER_00]: Who would classify you? [SPEAKER_00]: Which? [SPEAKER_00]: You said, Nethered. [SPEAKER_00]: Mercerinary. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Third. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the Mercerinary. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm not going to be nervous. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm not going to be nervous. [SPEAKER_00]: Mercerinary. [SPEAKER_00]: What are your notes? [SPEAKER_00]: What are your notes? [SPEAKER_01]: What are your notes? [SPEAKER_01]: Think called ascendancy. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but what's the third difficulty? [SPEAKER_01]: It used to be called Merle. [SPEAKER_01]: Merle? [SPEAKER_01]: Mercerless? [SPEAKER_01]: Mercerless. [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I was trying to say. [SPEAKER_01]: So I finished the third lab and then but I just I didn't stop as what I was just trying to say like I kept going and never read it any zones or anything I was so over a level that was not and that's just from all the extra content because there's so many more moms now when you're doing the faded stuff.

23:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but the loot seemed good. [SPEAKER_01]: I, it seems like a lot. [SPEAKER_01]: I definitely have jumped my, I'm kind of curious. [SPEAKER_01]: Now that you've got the tier thing that's rollin' out, is it just more worthwhile to be not seen rares than unless they're a tier rare. [SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm not totally sure yet. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm only in two red maps. [SPEAKER_01]: Like I just started red maps. [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm 80, I think I might be 80. [SPEAKER_01]: It'd be 23, I can't remember. [SPEAKER_01]: But no, 82. [SPEAKER_00]: And if you were talking about changing in placets, was that path to path one or both? [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, go ahead. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't recall, I'm trying to think if you changed in placets in POE 2, then you're changing the skills, right?

24:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Whereas the implicit's in... Well, not for body armor, only for weapons. [SPEAKER_00]: Right, but they chain I just can't remember where the in the announcement it was. [SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of why I wish they had two separate announcement pages for it. [SPEAKER_00]: But because I've been thinking about my path one filters now and maybe like I had certain raherty stop dropping with the exception of certain base types of classes at certain points. [SPEAKER_00]: Or there was like a different based on the class. [SPEAKER_00]: They stopped dropping at certain points based on the raherty. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care about normal or magic, whatever it would be at a certain point. [SPEAKER_00]: But maybe now you let the mall draw and it's just based on tier and maybe like I wonder what it would be like because you use never sync filters, right?

24:49 [SPEAKER_00]: But he doesn't he doesn't have anything that's class or generic specific gets just strict specific [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, he would have had to do the retool how that works, but like are you using something that's like, I don't know, sorcerer specific So I did pick he has some new thing now where you can say like, what's the type of builder plane? [SPEAKER_01]: And so I have it set to spell slash minion and then you pick from there like the base types that you would want. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's really cool. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so let's new though. [SPEAKER_00]: So are you so you did do that and are you finding that it's still too much crap like I'm I like the idea that the whole goal that Jonathan originally had with path to loot which was You don't need a loot filter unless you're changing colors sizes sounds whatever and then but there's always going to be with that exception of do you just want to get rid of everything that's not for your build.

25:42 [SPEAKER_00]: right like let's say I'm using a wand and a talisman or a wash or a wand and a septer. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well, I don't need shields or quivers or bows. [SPEAKER_00]: Cut all those out of the filter. [SPEAKER_00]: So with the exception of that, like do you feel like past one's current they're probably going to make a hundred changes like small little tweaks to this to make it a little bit more. [SPEAKER_00]: This is their first loot change in a decade and a half. [SPEAKER_00]: but do you feel like there's just a lot of rare because maybe it doesn't suit your build? [SPEAKER_00]: Or I still feel like it's just way too many wands, way too many energy shield boots or whatever it would be. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, was that a comment that he made at this hexalcon?

26:24 [SPEAKER_00]: with regards to the because they've never they've never successfully built p even p o e to to say that you wouldn't you could play with one of that's that's a comment from the beginning of okay access so that was the original intent but of course they haven't actually done a loot or skills path balance pass in almost two years anyway yeah we'll see what happens with p o e to you until December so right because they did that was a huge focus for them on this right so [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I, I, I think that it's still, I don't know if it's necessarily too much. [SPEAKER_01]: I think the thing that just sucks, I do like that your monks change that school. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, isn't it cool? [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man, I wish I spoke more Dorian.

27:04 [SPEAKER_01]: I, I do feel, it's a lot. [SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, it is actually a lot, because I've moved up to a much stricter version of my loop filter. [SPEAKER_01]: and you know you a thing drops that's like a T2 a T4 and you want to identify it, but there's just still I don't know if they've made any of the necessary changes or the changes that I would have like to see which is as I start to get into a monster level, you know, 60 or 70 or 80, [SPEAKER_01]: roll can only go solo for its tea version. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they ever changed that or not. [SPEAKER_00]: No, but it's just purely based on the tier that rolls on the base type.

27:47 [SPEAKER_00]: It's there's it's there's but I don't think it affects every mod. [SPEAKER_01]: It affects like some of the mods could affect it. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it affects all of the mods. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, maybe it does, I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: There is the value to T5 is that there's like no really low roll. [SPEAKER_00]: So tier 3 is still gonna have stuff that irritates you. [SPEAKER_01]: I've had, and it doesn't take away crappy mods. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, not crappy mods, but I'm certain it's not. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think like the tier 2 and the tier 4's that I've had dropped. [SPEAKER_01]: They may have one or two good mods, but all it takes is one bad mod. [SPEAKER_01]: for you to be like, I didn't really, it's not really doing something for me. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I felt through the campaign, it was awesome because I was getting, but I don't think that's because of the loot change.

28:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's because of the Covins and the fates and being able to get stuff that's more helpful to me and bolt loads of currency. [SPEAKER_01]: So like, I could craft no problem with my stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: But in the end game, it's, I'm starting to go, look at the drops now go. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, [SPEAKER_01]: What am I doing? [SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm I'm going to fill my bags up through a map and use a half to use a portal because I'm picking so much stuff up and that's weird for me. [SPEAKER_01]: Like I just feel like the T 2's and the T 4's and the things showing in them is cool, but I haven't noticed it actually improving my loot so far. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I have progressed through to towards red maps and I've been able to craft gear and I've It's been really fun.

29:17 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just I'm not sure if I'm noticing much of a difference in loot except that [SPEAKER_01]: my loop filter now show me a lot more magic items because a magic is dropping with a T4. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that I want to roll like I could pick it and need a lot of reels for magic items for them. [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think it keeps it after it rolls. [SPEAKER_01]: So if a blue item rolls with a T4 and I [SPEAKER_01]: Um, use a wisdom scroll on it, right, and it's got one or two good ones and I hit it with a regal and that regal hits I don't think that regal keeps the same rule of that it was a T4 and it can't roll a bad one And I don't think that if I have to redo it, it keeps it. [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just for those roles [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, if that's the case, though, I see that being short-term, there's no way that I've got that.

30:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I think you were chosen like that. [SPEAKER_01]: This whole time, you were chosen the same way. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, even though I disagree with the duration of some of these issues, keeping in mind when they focused on it or what they've been focusing on. [SPEAKER_00]: I could see that changing short term as soon as they actually start focusing on loot and seeing it. [SPEAKER_00]: I would expect them to really want their currency to have value and it's not going to have value if it doesn't uphold the tier system. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean the only reason I think that that doesn't is just because it doesn't feel like it does and there's nothing visual that you would know about that item anymore that it was a T4.

30:49 [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't maintain tier two tier three in its title after you identify it's gone [SPEAKER_01]: it's just, it's just, it's name. [SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's only affecting those rules at the time that it's identified. [SPEAKER_00]: And while that's not terrible, it, but it makes anything that's not a rare item pointless. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I imagine when that's going to, you're going to care about that. [SPEAKER_01]: That's it. [SPEAKER_00]: It is exults because you're not going to want to, you're not going to chaos anything, because even the news may be too good. [SPEAKER_00]: So that's, if that's the case, I mean, I'm almost sure it's speculating, but you're, [SPEAKER_00]: You're smart guy. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm like 95% sure it is which I just just and you want to change that person No, I'm 96 96% but it makes it so that that's like is magic six the non-sexual 69 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, people are, uh, it's a new line.

31:39 [SPEAKER_00]: I never ever hear anybody saying that about 96 ever. [SPEAKER_00]: That's true. [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and then not count that seven. [SPEAKER_00]: 97. [SPEAKER_00]: That's people can't count that high. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty sure the Giggler's can't count that. [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so 97, uh, so it just makes it like, currently my being, being shown a magic amulet because it's a T4. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if it's a T40. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to help me because I'm going to get two good roles and then I'm going to be stuck. [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I don't know, like I feel like the loop is probably moving in a good direction, but I honestly don't, I don't know that they'll be able to properly test it though to ever be able to get POE 1 to to wherever they think they want it to be.

32:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And the reason I say that is because I really, really like this league, I'm gonna talk about what I like about it, but just really quickly, it was clear some of it wasn't tested and we're not talking about things that would be hard to test. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, my very first, you get a wickerman, right, that little dude that's in your base or in the town. [SPEAKER_01]: The very first item I got for him was, I think it was off the first or second boss and it's quest related, like you're sort of driven towards it. [SPEAKER_01]: I have this arm and then you click on the Wickerman and when you pick up the arm all of the slots go red and I'm like I don't understand like what am I supposed to do with this arm?

33:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't figure out what I was supposed to do because all the slots go red So then I put the thing back on and I'm looking at a main mentor and it's telling me the name of it So that I'm mostly no over the slots and I'm like, oh, well that says upper limb. [SPEAKER_01]: This says upper limb. [SPEAKER_01]: Why is it going red? [SPEAKER_01]: So I click it They all go red. [SPEAKER_01]: I put it in the upper slot networks [SPEAKER_01]: Now the next item I got, it went green. [SPEAKER_01]: They went green for the right ones. [SPEAKER_01]: But that, this is the very first one. [SPEAKER_01]: That's that stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: That's weak. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and so I was like, and there were people losing items to Gwen and because you put your item in, Gwen and their change to Gwen and Expedition in general was actually really good crafting side of it. [SPEAKER_01]: Glad you got it. [SPEAKER_01]: put the item in the first time you meet Glennon right because you meet her as you're going through the campaign.

33:44 [SPEAKER_01]: With some people sadly in 2121 get caught by this too, but you can put your item in and she'll it's sort of like in purely twos. [SPEAKER_01]: Was it the purely twos at the offline crafting where you get to see three versions of what she could turn it into? [SPEAKER_01]: You pick the one that you want and then she flips a dice or a coin in 50 50 either you'll [SPEAKER_01]: or get this new one and you could start crafting on it, or something to that effect. [SPEAKER_01]: But remember the first time you fight or meet when and it's not like you have currency to upgrade and craft the stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: If once you selected it, you've locked your piece of item into her until you can pay to get the piece out.

34:25 [SPEAKER_01]: And you instantly have to pay on this piece for her to do any crafting on it. [SPEAKER_01]: So people had their campaign gear being locked. [SPEAKER_01]: they couldn't do anything. [SPEAKER_01]: It was just stuck there. [SPEAKER_01]: And the only way you test that is by interacting with it at the new first beginning, not with all the currency that you could possibly have as a developer or however they test it, right? [SPEAKER_01]: So there were just a few things that made me that was like, I don't, I wasn't rushed because Holy crap is it ever cool, concept I love the Atlas [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, so there were just some weird things. [SPEAKER_01]: So I just I'm not totally sold on loot being something that they can properly get much of a hand on but it has been better The campaign felt good and it's not like I'm I'm not lacking in loot.

35:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just not necessarily finding the upgrades That being said, I'm selling at least you have a lot more. [SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like you have a lot more potential for upgrades than before [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and to like, Path of Exile, one, when you're turning in the loot is getting broken down into your crafting loot anyway, so it's not the end of the world, so I am getting another currency that I can use, it's not like I'm just getting gold, but yeah, it was, it was good, did you know you can buy wisdom scrolls? [SPEAKER_00]: Wisdom scrolls for gold now and part of exchange that just this league they changed the yeah, so they Only wisdom No, they've changed other purchases as well that now cost different things if you go back through the patch I'll see some big so yeah gold gold's the new one, but I like that because [SPEAKER_00]: It's a good, it's stuck, right?

36:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's almost a stupid mechanic to maintain that you eventually, well, because you get the, you get the right. [SPEAKER_00]: And so it should not be a difficult thing to achieve, especially when you're at your most vulnerable state in the game, where you're desperate to find stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: And especially now, portals though. [SPEAKER_00]: But [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, this is something though, and this is, I don't mean this to be a derogatory comment, but this is really good foresight because now you have way more items to identify. [SPEAKER_00]: So this is the league to make Wisdom Scrolls somehow, whatever way they want, and in this case, okay, get the gold, get your Wisdom Scrolls. [SPEAKER_00]: to ID your gear. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's changing anything in late game though.

36:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I think you're still just taking your loop going back. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're going to have what you have in that's fine. [SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, I even then the late game that is kind of nice because you could just turn off scrolls of wisdom already had my an end. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: But now you don't have to do anything else about it. [SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to trade for them. [SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to do anything. [SPEAKER_00]: You don't even need those scholar div cards. [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever it would be, that would get somebody that turns them off so [SPEAKER_00]: You can now get them in an SSF way by still keeping them out of your filter, which is nice. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like the portal scrolls, aren't gold, there are three wisdom scrolls per one portal scroll. [SPEAKER_01]: I just find it annoying because a portal scroll for me, I just want it to be switched to POE 2 style.

37:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Just let me hit my keyboard, but it's gotta be. [SPEAKER_00]: That's one thing that I don't think makes sense to, like, in terms of keeping the game separated, [SPEAKER_00]: Like the portal system in path too is just pure Q will well. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't see that being I've had two maps already where it's like crap. [SPEAKER_01]: I can't get out of here. [SPEAKER_01]: I have to like Run around trying to hold down alt to find a portal scroll, which they are very uncommon when you're in maps apparently. [SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't find them at all. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm curious what like how much [SPEAKER_00]: quality and quantity.

38:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Like they have, of course, how everything's working now in the patch notes, but maybe there's some unforeseen changes that they didn't see coming with some of the changes, even for some of those basic stuff, right? [SPEAKER_01]: I have to say while I was playing, though, a huge, huge part of me was getting excited for the league specifically for POE 2's launch, [SPEAKER_01]: The, okay, like I was, I was playing P. We won going, oh man, I wish I was doing my castle battle. [SPEAKER_01]: Pretty my guys like there was a lot of me that was really bishing like yeah, I can't wait for that part I remember like I'm like oh man I can't wait to get back can we get back in them like oh, yeah, fates Like not a criticism.

38:56 [SPEAKER_00]: It's good especially without two separate things at the same time It's like having two versions of the same story. [SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna like the book version of the movie version better Right just not your fault. [SPEAKER_00]: You just you're gonna have a preference and for me as well I was like oh, I can't wait to get [SPEAKER_00]: No shade against path 1, like honestly, like I have my whole criticism to this company of being able to comfortably feel just as negative or positive, whatever, both the company was their inability to handle their own loop. [SPEAKER_00]: This is like the first season in my entirety of being a podcast or about this specific company where I'm like, all right, where they're moving. [SPEAKER_00]: They're willing to tackle the responsibility of it. [SPEAKER_00]: So now it's all like, [SPEAKER_00]: positive criticisms not like oh I can't believe well if they can't do this and they can't do this now it's all like sweet they're willing to take it on so all right let's see what I can take it on and unlikely to get it perfect off the bat which but at least they're doing something which is awesome and so but that one change just escalates and it just it just starts something that they're really not going to be able to [SPEAKER_00]: And the feedback they get from this is just going to make everything better.

40:11 [SPEAKER_00]: So, look at where it is. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry that it hasn't really been an overall improvement for you, but I am excited. [SPEAKER_00]: It's just as a fan. [SPEAKER_01]: I can't figure out, like, do I want to just pick up T-Force then? [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not finding them that great. [SPEAKER_01]: So then I really am a bit torn on what to do with my loop filter right now, because I'm not sure what I'm, and then to like the faded stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot of rarers, but it's, you know, that's not true. [SPEAKER_01]: In campaign, it was so good because you could just, you could try to push towards something with resist or something with life or, um, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know, man. [SPEAKER_01]: It was good, but it's just, I didn't feel like it was a decrease, especially because you just, you kill a boss and you're like, oh my god, and I'm not even kidding.

40:54 [SPEAKER_01]: When you start to get into the maps, [SPEAKER_01]: and you can push three fates onto a boss, and I should say, which I wanna bring this up, I don't wanna forget about this. [SPEAKER_01]: The order of your fates matters and that pisses me off, but you can soup up a boss massively, and when you kill it, buddy, it's like, I'm trying to think like blight when you would do like crazy blights in the blighted maps, just your whole screen, and then save order of the lines instead, and I'll get it. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, but it's like, that's where the strict filter. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just so much stuff on the ground. [SPEAKER_01]: So it feels good in some parts, but then you're like, holy crap, I don't know what to pick up now, because it's just too, and I actually find that's a problem for me, because when there's too much, then I get stuck, and I'm like, if I don't know what to do now.

41:41 [SPEAKER_01]: So, okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay. [SPEAKER_01]: So, fates, you get them, you collect them through the map, and then when you find the boss or campaign, [SPEAKER_01]: You can choose through the campaign you can only pick two. [SPEAKER_01]: but you apply your fates towards them. [SPEAKER_01]: But I couldn't figure out how it was determining. [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes I would have like this one supposed to give a unique, this one supposed to give, I don't know, I don't know, some currency or whatever, and the unique wouldn't drop. [SPEAKER_01]: But it was based on the order that you put the fates in and then the subsequent fates to the first one apparently have some effect on the first fate. [SPEAKER_01]: That's the best that I can understand it. [SPEAKER_01]: The thing that bothered me was I couldn't figure it out so I was trying to [SPEAKER_01]: understand what it was.

42:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And there was a post on Reddit from somebody explaining, like, hey, the order matters. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't really, I didn't personally completely grasp how that actually works in the end, but to at least know that, oh, there's an order that matters. [SPEAKER_01]: The thing that bothered me though was there's nothing in the game. [SPEAKER_01]: that explained it to me. [SPEAKER_01]: There was no like the Coven's thing works cool, but there were and there's information boxes everywhere that I could click on, but I couldn't, oh yeah, they added those to path one reason. [SPEAKER_01]: And they have them, they're great. [SPEAKER_01]: But I didn't, I didn't find anything that talked about the fact that, hey, the order of the matter, but the thing that bugged me as I was reading this post, I was like, okay, interesting. [SPEAKER_01]: So somebody's talking about it. [SPEAKER_01]: And then people are going, they talked about it at the, [SPEAKER_01]: They talked about it at the conference at the Q&A.

43:11 [SPEAKER_01]: They talked about it in the interview. [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, that's not okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure. [SPEAKER_00]: Let me go through like eight cows on different sources and do eight out of human issues. [SPEAKER_00]: A little bit of a thousand patch notes. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought that was a little bit not cool because no, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't change the fact that it didn't tell this guy in game and thankfully he made a comment about it. [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not a fan of that because that turns into a puzzle and I don't want to do a puzzle. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's weird. [SPEAKER_00]: It was my character in making my character. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, nothing else. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to be in the puzzle. [SPEAKER_01]: When you're my theory crafting idea, if this one says it gives a unique and necklace with attributes and I click it and it goes in there and then I click one that says it's going to give currency and gold and I click it, there should be four things that it will drop and sometimes there's four things that it will drop but other times there's two or one.

43:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I understand some, you're an idiot. [SPEAKER_01]: I understand some parts of it [SPEAKER_01]: God do you hear that? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do get off the road just and you're standing in the wrong spot Hey podcast and a better location rude. [SPEAKER_01]: I'll let the window [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, there's something here where it'll have a little circle underneath it and it will tell you you need to have two of these same ones that's fine I understand that and then I started to understand that if you use two of the same type of card it upgrades things, but I didn't find that it was very clear. [SPEAKER_01]: I really liked just doing it, but I started to feel like I was just clicking at certain points because I'm like, well, okay. [SPEAKER_01]: I want the unique, but I don't really know why it's changing and I don't feel like I want to try and understand it, but the mechanics been.

44:44 [SPEAKER_01]: It was really good through the campaign. [SPEAKER_01]: It's made it really hard in maps, like I don't, like any in maps, to your tens, like just starting red. [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't done red maps yet. [SPEAKER_01]: I've done up to to your tens. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm pushing towards the, the Atlas is quite cool now. [SPEAKER_01]: I like, oh my goodness, man, threads replacing, um, scary. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good. [SPEAKER_01]: It's so good. [SPEAKER_00]: It is long as they keep with like only a few. [SPEAKER_00]: I can totally see them accidentally having 300. [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe, but even the thing is that's not that's that's just, I mean, that's even if they did increase them. [SPEAKER_01]: they built it in that when you go to the Atlas, you don't have to have them on you, that it pulls from your, you're, you're not dealing with COSA.

45:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Nope, it's from your stash and it tells you how many you have. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not very clear about what it's doing when you increase the number of them, but I have heard because we're chatting in 2021 that if you go over five, it gets like, [SPEAKER_01]: Insanely difficult. [SPEAKER_01]: You can I think you can add up to 10. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's kind of like stack and delirium stacks too, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it just doesn't actually what it's doing. [SPEAKER_01]: If I go from two to three, it doesn't say like because I was asking in chat I was like this is if I picked this legion now They're gonna be like four legions that I get to click on and people are like no, it's you're just increasing the difficulty in rewards and I was like it doesn't say that on the plus So I haven't touched it because I was scared of it [SPEAKER_01]: okay um but uh buddy they what if they say like are you sure for the one and it's like are you sure sure for the second is sure sure sure sure sure sure yeah I think we'll see all this goes but the threads oh my goodness I love it there's no trying to read or understand what they do they're simple this one adds uh incursion this one adds um [SPEAKER_01]: It's just straight up, there's no guessing what they are, and I love that it's right in the Alice.

46:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Tell me what the fogs, too. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, so, like, there's the fogs, but the colour fog. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: So there's shakers. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it just starts. [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't seem to grow, but each of those areas, as you pick them, already has certain amount of threads applied to it. [SPEAKER_00]: So this one all natural two region threads applied to it, but what's cool. [SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead, is that replace like does that use up one of the three threads you can do? [SPEAKER_00]: It does. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So that shows you, but it starts to it too. [SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to add another one, it would only cost you one to go to three or whatever. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: But if you want to increase it. [SPEAKER_01]: the thing that I thought was cool at least because I like when you go so let's say I do the blight okay I did one blight for example I was in paying attention it said that it had a blight thing I didn't pay attention what the rule what it said it was adding the blight was it was completely free I I started to do the blight and I was like I think I found a bug yeah tell anybody because everything you have lost in your zero exactly [SPEAKER_01]: So they're they're they're quite cool what they add to the the mechanic within the map and They are they are fun because you have control over you can control how difficult it is, but you can just really easily throw Something into your map, which I just I love it.

48:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I really really like what they've done with it. [SPEAKER_01]: Then the outlet itself with already having the pre done ones has been cool [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't gotten far enough to get into one of the corners, so I don't know yet. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't really, I don't think I've fully got one. [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't seen any of the newer stuff yet, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm just maven in the red guy. [SPEAKER_01]: That's all I've unlocked so far. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's been fun. [SPEAKER_01]: I've been, uh, [SPEAKER_01]: I have, it's been, it's been weirdly enjoyable because I wasn't sure with, while forever, you know, like GTA, friends of ours and my brother are playing it. [SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm like, people are wanting to play, but I've enjoyed Pathetic so far.

48:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's actually, I've enjoyed the end game now. [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I'm just starting to get into it. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I pick the right idea for a build because, um, [SPEAKER_01]: it's very cool. [SPEAKER_01]: It's very cool. [SPEAKER_01]: It's basically your sucking up, you're creating tons and tons of corpses and then you're volatile them. [SPEAKER_01]: No, it was a volatile something. [SPEAKER_01]: Basically it consumes the corpse and so you're using the benefit of corpse packed or corpse whatever it is for the [SPEAKER_01]: kinetic blast of clustering, which I did happen to get, but it's just...

49:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Pay us the chaos on the screen. [SPEAKER_01]: I can't I couldn't see anything. [SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't do a lab. [SPEAKER_01]: I had to redo a lab twice because I couldn't see Traps I had to stop attacking and be like okay I need to try and focus so I can see what's on the ground here. [SPEAKER_01]: I tried Everything I could to try and make it reasonable and then I just went and googled it and I was like what do people do and sure enough there were a couple Suggestions for empty exes that would [SPEAKER_01]: muted a bit, which did help. [SPEAKER_01]: It did help, but it's still, it's crazy. [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I don't know, it's not the weird thing now is you can't with the at least how I felt so far mapping.

50:07 [SPEAKER_01]: You can't, you have to have a good combo of mapping clear speed and boss killing capabilities because every boss now at the map is getting quite a bit tougher. [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but that's why I like a no button Reaper bill. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I want to know how you Find it once you get up like I want to know. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm hoping you'll get into POE one because I am actually curious I am gonna put how you find I am gonna do it the rarers that are coming from the fates Because they are sometimes Really tough Okay, so you want me to play league. [SPEAKER_00]: You don't want me to just redo a standard game. [SPEAKER_00]: No, I want you to play the league because I'm curious [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to get, I'm not going to play the league anymore.

50:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Possibly, I'm into the loot. [SPEAKER_00]: I want to see what the default filter experiences like with the equal to your changes. [SPEAKER_00]: So that was my probably single league. [SPEAKER_00]: You'll see faded stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so if you want me to to me, it doesn't matter. [SPEAKER_00]: I'll do fade it stuff if if you want. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm just curious because you tend to play tanky slower damage and I felt like I was definitely the opposite in this current build and all I was doing was trying to rush and hoping it would die because [SPEAKER_01]: I think part of the problem too was if something raised its arm over its head, I wouldn't have had a clue. [SPEAKER_01]: Couldn't have seen it, no idea, and then I'll suddenly just dead you're like, what the?

51:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see what happened there, so. [SPEAKER_00]: And so what's your question for me in a few years? [SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious if you find it too much. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious if you find it too hard to kill them. [SPEAKER_01]: Like that you're not getting with my defense. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see any of the two characters, I'm okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Sounds good. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they haven't, I haven't had any like passes yet. [SPEAKER_00]: No, for Lee content. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: You know what? [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't. [SPEAKER_00]: But we are only a day in, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Day, day, day, and half. [SPEAKER_00]: So it only started yesterday. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: So unless there's something dramatic, it'll be like day three when any of those lower key balance passes show up. [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm just going to see if there's anything that they've done.

52:20 [SPEAKER_01]: they had, what did we do on 3.30? [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so they had, we're 3.30. [SPEAKER_01]: One hot fix, two hot three hot fixes, and then a restart list patch notes, but I think the restarted, the patch notes at least fixed the area where Gwen and was holding your stuff hostage. [SPEAKER_01]: I did see that that was fixed. [SPEAKER_01]: Covidus shrines no longer grant the player 20% increased damage taken, which is awesome. [SPEAKER_01]: I never understood why that. [SPEAKER_01]: Like here's your benefit, you get increased priority for a little bit, [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then just some bugs. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to read the rest of them, but so they had a couple of hot fixes and then one one restartless patch, but that's not bad for day two. [SPEAKER_00]: No, that's good. [SPEAKER_00]: And they're they've had a few leagues where they really haven't had any balance passes because they felt like it was released appropriately.

53:06 [SPEAKER_00]: So, um, hopefully that's the case this time around. [SPEAKER_00]: I'll check it out though. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll start tonight or tomorrow. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm just curious where you think I do. [SPEAKER_00]: I've got to decide if I want to get into game player if I want to do filters, gameplay, but at some point, I'm going to have to pause game play to do filters. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'll figure it out. [SPEAKER_00]: But by next week, I'll play. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sure. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's what else are you going to play? [SPEAKER_01]: You can go back to Pwe2, will you wait? [SPEAKER_01]: No, come on. [SPEAKER_00]: No, but Age of Empires has those stills. [SPEAKER_00]: Has the sparse of a game. [SPEAKER_00]: But no, it'll be path one. [SPEAKER_00]: It'll be path one until path two, and it'll be path two until [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, till some, I'm still very excited for Patu and I was really, I spent a lot of time thinking about the, uh, the whole league mechanic for Pewey to while I was playing Pout of XL1.

53:56 [SPEAKER_01]: So real, man, unreal. [SPEAKER_00]: One thing that I missed actually saying last week was, um, this is a little tin foil hat business here, but, uh, I think path ones loot change is, [SPEAKER_00]: not rushed. [SPEAKER_00]: I think they actually put a lot of time into considering it and thinking about it and focusing on it. [SPEAKER_00]: But I think that it was highly intentional for that. [SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't even make sense. [SPEAKER_00]: But I think it was very intentional for them to get it out before path to because take a litigation back or then they're doing the same loot change for path to. [SPEAKER_00]: But I think they've [SPEAKER_00]: There's so many normal drops in path 2.

54:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they're different. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean there's a tiered systems more common in path 2 but I think the rarity of like what the user actually finally gets that's completely different. [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like pueytoo did a pretty good job on when they did 0.5 the first one. [SPEAKER_01]: Like it felt like loot was a bit better at that point. [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely was but it was an improvement. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I've loot's not exciting in path to like you're not hoping for an instrument in my mind. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure it's still not. [SPEAKER_01]: It's where they went with pueytoo one. [SPEAKER_01]: maybe. [SPEAKER_01]: And I think you'll get a lot of ideas. [SPEAKER_00]: You do, you, and that's nice.

55:24 [SPEAKER_00]: So it, by you know, you did have options in POE 1 before though? [SPEAKER_00]: 100% 100% it was just trash trash trash trash every now and then you get something nice trash trash trash trash trash trash. [SPEAKER_00]: Like so for example [SPEAKER_00]: would be well that could be though because in path 2 they have more intentional mods less of a mod pool and more intentional mods in path 1 they don't have that it's still a lot of trash um at the tier system in path 2 actually got rid of some things do like a tier 5 would be very unlikely or impossible to roll like an increased light radius or something right so i don't know if that's made its way into path 2 or path into path 1 but [SPEAKER_00]: Like in path, like one thing that I would like to do with my necro in path 1 is I would have Elemental Purity of Al, I would have purity of elements because I don't want my minions to get chilled or shocked like it's it's good for a minion build I like that of course it would give them their resist as well.

56:28 [SPEAKER_00]: I would get the resist and a tax bead Keystone under the necromancer, which is another butt load of resist [SPEAKER_00]: and that would be so incredibly just all of that combined would be so incredibly beneficial for me because that's less of the absolute basics that I need to find on my gear and it would allow me to be like okay now I have space for this or for this or for this on my on my gear. [SPEAKER_00]: and the reason that that was so beneficial is because it actually was a massive pain in the butt to find that stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not talking like the basics of resist, but just because loot wasn't such a trashy place, getting rid of those basics, the rather means allowed me the freedom to attempt other things because there were so many trashy modifiers that could roll on gear, where I'm just completely [SPEAKER_00]: That's great that I got 120 life on this but all those other mods suck and there's only one more space Like I'm not gonna re-roll any of this.

57:29 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just gonna trash it and so much of it was trash just because of the quantity The generic term not the literal term in POE the generic term. [SPEAKER_00]: There was just too many crappy things that could roll Even if they got a decent roll for that modifier the modifier just suck so [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm curious when you think past one pet. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm curious too. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'll go through all due to the league mechanic for you. [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm curious to see what the differences are between the games. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm curious to see how much this very specifically where loot was for some reason intentionally changed for the one league that's only going to be quote unquote a month long.

58:13 [SPEAKER_00]: really curious to see how that impacts the POE2 launch. [SPEAKER_00]: That's actually not necessarily intentional. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you're really changing loot, you're taken like, and not saying they're not. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, any long-term listener, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I got to hang out with Stumpo. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we were in Xalkon. [SPEAKER_00]: The listing's in episode two. [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even know what to say. [SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy. [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe slightly psycho. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: But like, for people like Stumpo that have been listening for so long. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, you know how I feel about looped. [SPEAKER_00]: And this is the first time I've been like, [SPEAKER_00]: So, it's just very, if you're changing loot, which is the absolute core and fundamental core of your game.

59:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you're taking like the full three months, whatever it is to really study it, look at it, make the changes on the fly long term. [SPEAKER_00]: But they gave themselves a month! [SPEAKER_00]: And there's only one reason for that in my mind, so I'm curious just to see what happens. [SPEAKER_00]: Ten foil hat stuff, Justin. [SPEAKER_01]: That's the fun stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_01]: All right, sweet. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I get a we're gonna end this because this has to come out shortly, so hopefully this all makes it all done time and thank you for making the time. [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, but it's nice to have you back. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's wrap this up. [SPEAKER_01]: 370 forever. [SPEAKER_01]: I sell them just naked tags Tyler record of days is me. [SPEAKER_01]: Patrons will maybe see you after real quick, but otherwise everybody have a great League launch 3s 3.3 Covins of Umbra or whatever it's called hopefully everybody's enjoying it We have a website foreverx.com.

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