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[SPEAKER_01]: And welcome to forever XL them just an AK tags are you sure well just changed us did it change YouTube Control the layouts again shut your face.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Tyler record days.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's going on?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do it again Did it change but I didn't what do you mean do it again swap does yeah, I did swap it as soon as it started

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have control of that as soon as it starts in swapping when somebody wants to be on top They want to be on top.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, and somebody wants to be underneath They want to be underneath the system decide tie the system decides It has made its decision fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a 360.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not 360 of our podcast together

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[SPEAKER_02]: it is seem right well it is okay listen it can't be wrong I screwed up the timing because we counted that one episode that didn't come but it did the short one and so I had it numbered incorrectly somewhere and then correctly elsewhere and I forget which one is which and I hope I got it right

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I know somebody wants to go back and count.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Three hundred and six to the other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't care.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is 360.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You bet, Jim.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, big show through our Patreon 6, everybody who resubbed up this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Patreon gets to access to afterdarkets or podcasts after the podcast and Tyler and I just keep chit chat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we appreciate your support, so so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If the number 360 appeals to you when you hear our soldier voices, well, do you want more?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Imagine 360 times, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly, it's like there's over 700 past episodes that you can dive deep into.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man, I remember once I was using Greyhound to get around, uh, for good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I was meeting up with family in the interior.

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[SPEAKER_02]: had their podcast, okay man I was like pissing myself like I'm on my own it's like back in the day like where it's like

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like we're talking like what phones and apps were like 10 years ago, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it wasn't the way that it was today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So having somebody with like their ear buds in and like laughing on their own was still, even though that's been around for what's something weird.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it was that awkward time where like podcasts weren't overly popular.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So what on earth could somebody be laughing about when they're listening to music?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember peeing myself, just laughing so hard on the Greyhound buses was going

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the F-126 calendar thing you have up to their all the racetracks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I assume.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, prior to the cuffluffled schedule that we have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, stupid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Stupid wars.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Stupid bombs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just wanted to watch some cars race and circles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want this week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I forgot last week, but maybe I didn't, but August 24th, 2017.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Expox, Path of Exile 1 came out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm surprised you missed that if you did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like you probably didn't miss that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not, that seems like a U-fang.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's nine years ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, Xbox has been out for nine years now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dang.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then September 1st, 2010, okay, POV was officially announced, not released, but announced.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then seven years later, they opened the beta.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I just.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I just, I just, I just don't tell you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, how's that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But do you want me to go first?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, yeah, go for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tell me, will you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, school starts for both of us coming up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: hip hip but man the school that Oliver's going to first time for him right both kids are going to be in middle school now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They just messaged yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know the Thursday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, about not just schedule but supplies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: about the long weekend like it's so I didn't even where we are in in our part of the world listeners we have a long weekend coming up and so I think a lot of people do in North America maybe yes but anyway we have a long weekend coming up and it's this coming Monday right and it's always the Monday before school and the school always starts that Tuesday and so is whatever kind of wacky day the first day of school is but they

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need to live my boss, no, anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I was like, all right, come on, come on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so anyway, but all of her, he's, he's excited.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how to post it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, he's got so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He sees it there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, totally totally.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he's got to get over the hump, but he's so hyper focused on things that he can get quite overwhelmed and spiral.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So a lot of our comfort and counseling and corrections revolve around him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: acknowledging and being realistic about where things are at, so that he doesn't spiral at kind of acknowledging or just making sure he trying to teach him tools to not spiral or figure out that he's going to or that he's in the process of and obviously it's all tough and everybody deals with their own thing, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's his thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So not having information for him until the last minute.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a rough fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but he's going to have a great time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a cool kid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a nice kid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A teacher's like him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got great group of friends.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, he's going to love it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That first bit is a bit much though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Moving on to a new school.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, sure, sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a real good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, and I mean, like, we're not actually concerns just, you know, you feel bad for the kid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, he'll be over in two seconds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The Looney Tunes movie, Act Me vs. Kyody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it came out that list this week or last week or whatever it was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that a new movie?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What the heck is that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that an animation one?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a, it's one of the, like, human animation ones.

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[SPEAKER_02]: right and so it's actually like wiley coyote suing acne for all the failed products that he's okay so with the years right so you haven't seen a trailer for I don't recommend looking for a trailer or I don't know how much the trailer shall now that the movie's open but

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[SPEAKER_02]: And as we were watching that, we realized that the kids, like, they don't know any of those characters.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because Looney Tunes hasn't been around, like, it's not on the streaming service or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you have to go on YouTube, but even the YouTube ones, they're just, like, really short clips.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what Warner Brothers does.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For people in Canada, I don't know what it's like anywhere else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we actually haven't shown the kids any looney tunes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So when we went to my in laws place They have some DVDs some of like the best of classics So we show one of them like her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think I remember saying this before so we've been like showing them a lot more of the other things But it's funny because now the kids are like

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[SPEAKER_02]: They've been just quoting it non-stop, so they think something's funny, and so they're like, right, although they're like, they'll talk in the fridge, depend to live you and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, um, but one of their favorites has been, and so we've been talking a lot like your semidesam.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's just been a lot of great hardy doods.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh,

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[SPEAKER_02]: One of my favorite ones is the one where they're in the desert and he's, you know, Sam, he seems writing a camel and he's like, whoa, camel, whoa, when the camel doesn't then he's like, when I say, whoa, I mean, whoa, he smashes the camel over the head to make him stop.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, that's a running thing where I just, it never, okay, where it never works out and, uh,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hello, hi.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's has a going.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what it's doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, um,

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[SPEAKER_02]: But one thing, and I've always remembered that one, and I've always quoted it and loved it, and I've always thought it was hilarious, but then I never realized what the introduction to go to Sam and he Sam was like on that one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's just there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's dressed up like he lives there, and he's riding his camel through the desert, and he just sees footprints.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a desert, and he sees a trail of footprints.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, great, horny toads.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody's trespassing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wait, what did he say?

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a trespasser.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and it's just I just thought that was like the funniest thing I never saw that and now I think that's even funnier as an adult than what I thought was funny for the last three decades so it's been fun going through that with the kids we'd like to take him to the theaters at some point don't know if it'll work out but we'd like to cool and then yeah that's it and then all of a sudden um New Zealand's two months away I feel like it's just six months away so it's only two months away so I've got to get a book and then figuring out yeah just

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's been good just, you know, going through life, going through things, but it's all just been normal summer, dog training, kid training, I was like, no, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to drive, I was going to

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, remember last time I can't hear you, but how the camera kept focusing on like, oh, no, it wasn't this, it was the shirt with the exalted orbs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, nevermind.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he doesn't know that's, that's too not cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That would go backwards hat for T-bone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to know now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was related to your hand for some reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It likes your hand movements for, I don't know why.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like my hand too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just fix your cable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not on the mic because it's rubbing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No more rubbing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sweet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tell me about your week, my friend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, first of all, you said it was funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You were just saying that about your kids not knowing about Looney Tunes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I found out on probably Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So under my money that my girls didn't know what porridge was porridge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We never had a cream of orange porridge, eh?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just like normal, quaker, whatever, oats, I don't know what it's called.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Never have any hell that works, eh?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was such a staple for us growing up, and so I had made them have some on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of them liked that the other didn't I was like, you're lucky to get this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're spoiled by your cereal, freaking jerks, but yeah, so they had never worked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Such a harsh words, Justin, that comes out of course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My girls, I had one that liked it and the other one was like, eh, I'm like, oh, all right, what you're freaking cereal and crunchy food, just have this, you can slurp it right down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to look to see if there was anything else, otherwise that we did, we did, um, nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We did a family get together on Sunday, but other than that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: This week was so, so, so, so hectic, like literally right up until right now when we're recording.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's been very busy, it's been some good, some bad, some stressful, some fine, but I don't feel like I've really processed much yet for this week, so this weekend will be a good time to hopefully.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Calm down, a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had a really, really rough Monday for just work reasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really, like, really high highs and monstrously low lows all in the same day, which was not normal at all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, yeah, to sweating in, if you're not the same day kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of thing yeah for the same people too like it was yeah the levels of highs and lows I got married and she died oh it was crazy so yeah it was a very high high low low day just Monday but um the rest of the week was good it was very busy we uh started silo the third I think third season the most recent season we both loved one and two good and Aaron always called she always calls her back Ferguson my

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[SPEAKER_02]: My girl, like not like my girl, my girl.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, like she's I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about the content.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also that any time you like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, silo, we both liked it, but also that's because we're normal humans who can just watch a show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy you are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what you said for your kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we did watch that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we were liking crap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We couldn't finish it though because the episode didn't hadn't released until like the final episode came out this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hate that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was all in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was all in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was all in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was all in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was all in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was all in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was all in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was all in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was all in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But so we finished off the bear because we had to final season of the bear to watch, so we watched that while we were waiting for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see how I got a giggle of the vote.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because the dots see you took it to a whole different place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love those jokes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we finished the bear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am probably a third of the way through dungeon crawler, carol book six, the biggest of them all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: God, it's the biggest book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really good though so far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really liking it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And good, I'm glad I have to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate all of the people who reached out in the millions this week to tell me that they loved dungeon crawler crawler as well and that they've really enjoyed reading it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good because once a week somebody has to tell me don't think it's good like I told you what I mean and I said I didn't even want to talk about all the way because it was forever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know you will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be a battle next and it's going to be trash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're at your mind.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not listening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to know

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[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, I have to finish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have my book club with Ian tomorrow and so I can read you with me the like cliff note version like give me your, give me your like now or you want to finish a week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I want it right now, but like just a quick version.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to go into depth because I think you're not so like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you put your thing into chatGbT and said, hey, some this up for someone who just barely cares This is the length of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that calls notes?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's a close no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, all right I'm just just a general idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's your general overtake without having to look at your notes?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What would you say?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because you didn't like it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if I love the idea, I love the concept, I think it's all very creative, very cool and you can clearly tell that the author has.

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[SPEAKER_02]: like a big idea and lots going on, like there's lots that's predetermined in his mind and a lot of like little things that are laid out that matter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's there's a lot of thought that's into it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And as you go and you start writing something like that, you have to make a lot of decisions like, well, how is this going to show up?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And how is this going to matter?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And how is this?

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[SPEAKER_02]: How are you going to portray this and what kind of game is it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's a lot of thought like it's almost like He had to make the same amount of decisions that somebody who's creating a game had to make and then go and then add a story to it And then it's not just that, but then it's almost like again Designing a game you have to interact with the game and then there's the user face.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not just the idea It's not just the story that the character is gonna fall, but how is the character gonna go through it and interact with the world?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like that kind of stuff, and I'm highly impressed with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just not for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That first book, and I'm sure it slows down in a good way after that, but the whole book was a text wall.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was like 5% story and 95% okay, this is how the dungeon works and these are the list of items and these are the list of achievements and these are the list of things and it was just it was just like wanting to play a game like you log in to play a game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you can't because it's just text wall of tutorial after text wall of tutorial and you're just like, I just want to play, you know, like I just want the story and it was just crazy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I assume that doesn't continue throughout because that would be crazy if that continued, but it was a very little of it was actually story and then even when you get into the action sequences because you're only following one character, you know, Carl is going to be fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know he's going to make it even if like whatever happens at like the very very yet like you know that he's going to be fine no matter what danger he comes across so the action sequence has had no suspense

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so to go like step by step through all these action sequences was fine, but that's not it's it's just it's just kind of fluff, you know, it's just kind of cool, but it's not story based you know what I mean, so there was actually very little story and very little progress through it all and so I just found it very boring, but I really like the concept and I really like the idea.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, these aren't criticisms because I think that if I was to write the book I'd probably do it the same way and I thought of it, he did it really, really well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just for me, it was boring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like a lot more story added to it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need a lot of that play by play, so I just didn't find it very interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that the idea that it's following the one character and that you know that Carl will be okay is probably a fair assumption, however, peace, creating relationships that do, that are affected as the story unfolds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think there's a lot of connections that you get connected to as characters and their storylines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the action does a pretty good job of while it's being told from Carl's perspective, you're knowing and understanding what all these other people who are involved in Carl directly or indirectly, what's going on with them?

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[SPEAKER_01]: From the part about the wall of text, that definitely does continue and I think that's one of the coolest parts about it and at least for me I loved that because it made me feel like I was reading and in the game like this idea that I was reading about a night and I'm like there are in my huge chapter there was one spot where the two pages

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[SPEAKER_01]: was the either item description or achievement, and it was hilarious and so much fun to read, but it was long, and there was no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The thing is though, with some of them too, they are sort of some of them,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't, so I don't want to say anything, but sometimes they lead you or you get an idea that they're talking about something else or they're somehow connected to other things that happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe that means more as you progress further through it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But for me, the way I read it, I loved that feeling of like I was reading and in the game at the same time, and I could get into that space and that environment to really enjoy it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So for me, yeah, that's how it's

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't disagree with any of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just that's not for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: To me, it was too much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, donut is too much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Donut as like a second primary character.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's like donut would be awesome if donut showed up as often as morticated in the first book.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like a lot more infrequent to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Every time donut speaks, it's just too much because it's just, it's like having way too much comic relief, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: a catchphrase that he didn't mean to because at the up until the catchphrase you don't realize how often he says cut damn it, you don't write so I like that kind of stuff but then I don't care about the corporate world or the bigger picture that's been created I didn't find that overly intriguing, so I don't care more later, but yeah

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, and but it doesn't interest me at this point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I have no motivation to go further with it, but then there were some things like I love the external rich like I'm really curious about mortica and I really like mortica, but I don't care about any of his like his arch rival like that couple where they had to kill their own kid kind of thing in the first book right because of the thing that he planted and then like I don't care about them at all, you know, they're going to be like

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[SPEAKER_02]: A long-term but non-issue, and even if they're not long-term, whatever, I don't find that very high intensity, and then there's the senior people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then there's sometimes where it's like things were added just for the sake of adding things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It seemed like it was cool when he got the goblin patch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then he dealt with and used the goblin patch so quickly, and there was no, like, longevity to it with the exception of at the very, very end.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There was like an epilogue regarding it, and then like you add the senior citizens that are pissing in the hallway right away, right at the same time that you add the warning, no pissing in the hallway, and then that turns into something, but then at that, like it's just, it sometimes things were too predetermined, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there was because of already not concerned about the action sequences in Carl,

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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of high-stake situations that I didn't care about because they were just intentionally placed like too much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean, but it was just it like I really appreciate the book and these aren't criticism like I said I wasn't going to I don't think I could write it any better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just as the reader I just I was bored

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[SPEAKER_02]: I laughed out loud more than I could say for any other book that I probably wouldn't continue.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I found myself laughing out loud quite a lot even reading here in a couple of parts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But she wanted me to pass on to you that she is very excited to read book to borrow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Farrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're freaking amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad you really liked them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad you really liked them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will be continuing with the process of reading through them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How many other?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't actually know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not I don't I'd be guessing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I have maybe three more after this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So some around nine, but I actually don't know for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if it's done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of hope it is done, but I don't know if it was like there's there's a lot of them though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So well, yeah, so for me, I see like okay at the end of book one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're starting level three out of 18.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, okay, this whole series is just going to be about the one dungeon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe probably so then I'm thinking okay, but in the grand scheme of things in this world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And all the different corporations and industries and kingdoms that exist, you could have an infinite world of storytelling right so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not mine though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I do like this, I.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do not like how Terry Brooks writes, and it's one of my favorite series ever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't like how Terry Brooks writes, but there's 39 or whatever books notion are series, and after reading a butlo to different authors, he does a text wall dump two, it's like one chapter of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the situation, and here's why you have to do this, and nobody else can, right, really dumb little thing, and then she's like here's a text wall of history, but then it's done, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't actually like how he writes, but at the same time, then from that point over all the crap is dealt with, and I got 300 pages of glory.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, everybody's different, but I'm glad you really like it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is really low, and I'm not trying to be a Debbie Downer on a diet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You wouldn't have, you can't ruin it for me, so like here on your side is good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was curious, I mean, you're crazy, but I was curious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think no, and everyone else will, too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I feel bad saying this, like, our discord's full of people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, oh, my goodness, I can't wait.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I just finished this a period of this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Can't even afford this, but I ordered it anyway.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like, all that, not love it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not trying to be a Debbie now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, and enjoy it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it is a great book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not, I mean, books aren't for everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The eye, this is the first time I've been so committed to blocks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't have it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't find that I would make time for myself to read.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm purposefully making time for myself to read with this series, which is super fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm enjoying it for you to do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: 100%.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to get through the eLead right now and the translation that I got.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they're all like that, but I cannot, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm just at the point now where I'm just going to like catch up online.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really want it to read through it, but it's just such an incomplete story that you have to know so much about previously to appreciate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of like the count.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's like because it's a big poetic story.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the Ealy adds only a part of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: right and the Odyssey is only a part of it but there's like four other parts that aren't the eLead or the Odyssey that the writers just expected you to know so as I'm going through the eLead I'm like well what this doesn't make any sense why would they do this and they're like oh well you're supposed to know this and at the time I'm coming

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[SPEAKER_02]: So were you supposed to read other books beforehand or what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, just just be aware, like it's written for people that know and believe in the Greek gods.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just like that was their life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You do know about the history of Paris and Helen and how that came to be in which gods are on which side and who they favor and why.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and then you get into the story of the alien now there's a poem that you know helps you along that right but then even if you get into like um what's his name fry he wrote uh Troy and uh something anyway he goes through and all of that but it's still just

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[SPEAKER_02]: dry so i'm trying to get through that and i really really really want to read the Odyssey but if i'm already needing to go online and do some nice thorough research to get the full story so that i'm all properly educated and knowledgeable to read through i may as well just keep going you know what i mean instead of go or just wait maybe someday somebody will make a movie about it i don't

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like, I like- There you go, I do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, with those kind of movies, I like knowing and then seeing what they do with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But don't you feel like sometimes you like that because then you want to know what they do different because I feel like then you go into it with an opportunity to be like, oh, I don't like that they didn't do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you don't know when you go in, you can't not like it, it depends how passionate like with the hitman movies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was really disappointed with them because they just changed way too much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then with some like, I don't care about the Odyssey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care about Troy, I don't care about the Eliad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So whatever they do do it, I'm like, oh cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Super cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I loved what they did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's basically the Odyssey, but without the mythical aspect.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just the human PTSD Hmm, I thought like they did a really cool job with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just like seeing like when the story I don't care about, but I think it's neat I like seeing how they changed things up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so anyway All right, so we what we know about the book the rest of my week was all good everything was a normal week in schools back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did not do anything for Path of Exile this week, just because the only I will say I will say, I didn't tell you about this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I did play a little bit of a game called Manor Lords and holy crap was it fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: city builder sort of style like but you're back in the early like 13th, 14th century and you're building maybe not quite that far back?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's actually not quite that far back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you're just you're building up your fiefdom, your castle, your building places for them to live and to work and industry and trade and blah blah blah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very very pretty game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: single player against AI, but I did play that because it was very chill, like really, really chill, not have to think anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was, what did we do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We finished off our privately, so I was done with that, and so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't done anything, so I haven't even looked at our notes, sorry, so I'm just pulling out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, don't be sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So congrats to everybody that sucked and didn't suck in our mind, it was a really fun 10 days.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really enjoyed myself, despite my disappointing death, but congrats to everybody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, the top 10 and Xeroch hip, and I say that right, Xeroch sounds

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[SPEAKER_02]: and uh... salt ten hello yeah yes yes very good congratulation thank you congratulation i don't know or was but i was trying to hold on to top five but uh... but he's really not for no i know so brok though brought up an interesting thing they were they're talking a little bit more and you actually brought up the idea as well of having longer private leagues

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's specifically extending at a time where it's like what else is there to do, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Especially considering, I mean, I don't know how many people there are that are like us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like there's very little hip-hop array around this 0.5.5 league launch for path 2.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What is that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, it launches in 15 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And oh shoot, it's the right, but that's the same thing I was going through and I'm like, okay, you know, past two is next for finished RPL.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So now that's kind of like my thing in my head for we had the announcements and all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm like, I'm making my build and I'm on max roll because for some reason path of building still doesn't do the dot build bit but okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm on max roll and I'm like, you know, trying to get the dot build thing going so the in game build I mean how cool is that right the in game build follower where it has like your guides suggested your your guides gems that you can unlock and the path to have on your tree like how cool is that so I was doing that and I'm like oh you know what I got to make this change in this change Okay, let's load up the game to see if it can load and I'm like what do you mean the domes down what do you mean the right and then I'm like oh yeah

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I was so unhyped, I guess you could say, for the league match that I forgot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was league launch day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just expected the game to load so I can see if my change worked or how it would convert from max roll into the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's kind of funny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, that being said, I don't know how many other people are like you and myself in regards to this path too launch, but got me thinking, what if instead of doing 10 days just in?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We did like a 40-day or a 50-day, 60-day PL.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's too long.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm sure that's too long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd be able to show up just on your own time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do your own thing whenever you want.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Give a good like three, four, five characters a try over like a few weeks if you wanted to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do what you want and then it's still, you know, once a league we have our legends, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it doesn't matter if somebody swoops in and takes the top 10, because it's not like we're doing financial rewards anymore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a legend status.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Most think about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, that legend status is a big deal, Ty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is!

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know!

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[SPEAKER_01]: People put it on their license plates.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is a benefit to the 10 days though, because it's like, it's the 10 days, and then it's done, and it's exciting for an event, a tight community in that regards, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes you can't show up, but it's nice when like, everybody's just like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: the idea, the block out of like extending it, I did like that idea because there wasn't so regarding the 0.5, the thing that launches in 10 minutes, it's not that I don't think that either of us have like negative hype towards it, it's just that we don't, it's not a draw, to pull, at least that's for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, even thinking about it right now,

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[SPEAKER_02]: if I was to try it before we do after dark what am I trying like what do there's nothing for sure i haven't actually got a note go down to not well actually patch notes i do have a comment for you but uh the very bottom link is item filter information click on that i did open that one uh where is it

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was in the same, yes, here we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Patch notes and item filter information to same file.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, it's not just two posts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But look at the list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot of work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To get all that into it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's literally like there's nothing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they added one tablet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They added one fragment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they have a different soul course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that like there's literally nothing to add into the game course, no gems, no items, no nothing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, not criticisms, but we're just talking about hype, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What does it look for?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Any new classes?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, any new skills?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, any new items?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is there swords?

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no swords in this one, is there?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, that was part of the RFAQ.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you click on the FAQ that they have, because the renouncement was so like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel bad for them because, you know, because they did get some of the main points, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They were announcing what one-point-o part of what's going to come out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then kind of meshed into 0.5.5.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was kind of a muddled amount of information about what's coming out with what.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So part of the Reffake Q is, hey, is any of that cool stuff that you mentioned in your video coming out now?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, no, it's coming out of my point-o.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I already have a sword M.T.X that I got when I bought Path of Exile 2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Logan and I were talking about this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you equipping it on your sword, Justin?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But him and I were talking about that just recently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I doubt I still have this sword M.T.X.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like one day, buddy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't realize that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of these days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know that they're doing, okay, I don't like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not what, like, why do a twitch drop that's not even for what's currently I, okay, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, is it a pet at the very least or is it actually a sword impacts, but is the sword that they have in the picture here is that I haven't even looked at I'm gonna log in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna get and I love the free stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's amazing I do it for that too, but I like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The blade of champions pet is not exclusive to Twitch drops But is the blade of champion pet if it's just a pet if that sword is a pet then I'm all for I think that's awesome If that's how you get your sword

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if it's a sword out here, then like, come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, what did you want me to click on touch?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Click on the, yeah, so for path to click on the patch notes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, just on my own link there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, this is just, this is childish.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know I had a time I'm saying that my, my comment is childish, but considering that this is like the least,

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[SPEAKER_02]: impactful or exciting launch, there's bin for either game I think.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Look at what's at the top of the, hello again, of the top of the patch notes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like this really cool art where it's like play the forbidden rights event.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it has like all, this was like Korean shun with nicer release.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's nice digital, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it looks good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, if you're going to start and keep it going for sure, but it's almost, there's part of me that was like, oh, you're really

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[SPEAKER_02]: really, really trying to hype it up because it's so small, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, but here they're calling it an event in their patch notes, but then in the FAQ they call it a league.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still don't understand why they reset this league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I understand why they typically would do it because it gives them some information, with regards to drops and builds and stuff, um, Mike without changing anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't

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[SPEAKER_01]: Besides the event there's that it that's it's all to me because there's nothing fundamental that change that would have required a Elegrease.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know what they'd be getting out of it outside of just numbers money Which would be you think the same is last time unless there's maybe maybe this has built up some hype for them around the Pewey two, but the thing is that only people playing it are still the people who have already bought it because it's not free yet So I don't know I'm a bit confused as to why they did the legally set.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but whatever

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[SPEAKER_01]: new but trials of chaos changed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They made it a lot more supposed to be better user friendly and they made it so that some of the already crappy modifiers can't be as redundant.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like the composite now in the middle of one because that is yeah, they did it for the other one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Trust.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like come back like exit and come back and continue and all that kind of stuff and a little bit more Interact user-friendlyness in between sessions as well, which is nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, there's still some cool stuff and I mean, they're they've been absolutely fantastic at adding just great QOL nonstop as the game keeps progressing and coming out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So

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[SPEAKER_02]: Looking forward to all that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately for me, I don't like ritual.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like it even less in path 2 than I do in path 1, so having, but you don't like ritual at all?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I like the result, but the process sucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which part do you mean like being trapped in a circle or like which which process I prefer being trapped in a circle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have the best control.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean it's way better than in path one, but they still don't have the greatest control over their modifiers that can roll on enemies combined with the default modifiers of an enemy base type, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And sometimes, like, if you get like multiple rares that all have like the mana siphoner or around them, like, that sucks in that, but then you also have that, like, having the towers do stuff as well, like whether it's waves or chaos stuff and all that kind of stuff, it's just, and then you add the environment into it where there's all this crap that it can sometimes roll to be in your way, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Stuff that you can't get around.

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[SPEAKER_02]: it's just not a fun process for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do I like the result?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do I like being able to shop afterwards?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you betcha, but to me it's not really worth it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll click on them when I pass them, but I don't go out of my way for them, and I definitely don't put the tablets in for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, um, I like ritual.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think ritual is, um, it's probably a good example of how path of Excel sometimes can go a little bit too much with regards to, here's your tiny circle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Either you can clear the screen or you're probably not going to do well with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it kind of puts it into a tiny little ecosystem and says like, can you survive?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not often because you have the defenses to survive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's because you have the offense to have killed everything fast enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: it does get progressively more full and full and if you're not killing things fast enough, you're going to get overwhelmed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Half of Excel 1 is still very much damaged first.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not really set up for defenses to be a massive priority.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You do the basics, but then it's still just pure offense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think ritual is fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do really like the reward part of ritual like I enjoy that process of ritual.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to say I'm just a bit curious because this is called a forbidden right event, but it's supposed to be focused on ritual.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that the focus of it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, King of the Mesters is ritual, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But there's actually not much changing to ritual.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's just adding it to the campaign and then more of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is what confused me last episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it was in the, was it not in the campaign?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it was, but just in the natural way, but now it's like the big part of the campaign is just going to be everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I'm going to have to play just to figure out what they're talking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I even watched in the video, I think we talked about this last week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, hey, we played ritual, what are you talking about?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how I got my first spirit, Jim.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe I will have to try it out to see what they've changed with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's cool that it's coming out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure people in Discord now are like, hey, log in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I forgot, so that is cool, but I probably will try it before I'm, for after tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be, I'll be playing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited for the build that I've, that I've created for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So are you doing anything new?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you gonna play something new?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and no, I'm still going to do minions like I like to, but I've just thought as a minion to I'm going to do one tree is going to be full of minion mitigation and the other tree is going to be for minion instability so no mitigation

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[SPEAKER_02]: So one's just going to be all the skeletal warriors like I like to do minion instability, right, and then I'm going to have ball lightning with living lightning Excuse me, and that's going to be on for all of it, and then the other one I'm probably going to do something like skeletal roots instead of the Like for the permanent minions when I swapped to the one that have mitigation I'm going to start was the same as we've done before the right

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[SPEAKER_02]: In a way, I never actually have done minion survivability before.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just different ways.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just like the last build that I did was it wasn't too varying builds that would give me options.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was one of them was one tree was for clearing and then one tree was for bossing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I would have one tree ahead less damage, but more manner region because I was constantly casting a curse along my temporal chains along with living lightning, while my needs stability was going, and then I would switch to the boss one, which because I have infinite curse duration for that build, I would curse the three times, and then I wouldn't need manner

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[SPEAKER_02]: Down ball lightning with living lightning and then man the cameras really bad loves your hand, man, and then yeah, and then I would And then it would just have more damage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So instead of all the mana regen notes, it would just be What would it be instead of mana regen?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It would just be more damage for immunistabilities, so

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what it was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was the same build.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just one was bossing when it was clearing and so this one I'm gonna try two different kinds of styles for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, I have to change my layout because you weren't even on the screen Oh, I know it's stupid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, anyway.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, anyway So that's that's what I'm instead of doing the lich this time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna be the Smith of the Katava

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[SPEAKER_02]: One thing that I have found very annoying is how damage mitigation works in the game, how strong, very small physical damage arrows or damage how much that chunks out of a character that doesn't have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: any physical damage mitigation or evasion of Slash avoidance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So starting off as the witch, that physical damage is just harsh and brutal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Even if you like really stack high or energy shield, it's like it's too much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to try being the Smithicataba and my ascendancy is going to be all defense for me and my passive tree is going to be all minions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pure minion like it's there's not gonna be any I feel like you did this though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to and then I never did Oh, you never tried it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, so I'm gonna give it a shot this time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I actually really like the tree that I have to swap from mitigation To just more damage for minion instability.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have the perfect setup for 24 and 24 I like what's on the permanent tree the no matter which one I'm on and then I like what's I'm swapping between I really like the gems that I'm swapping between as well, and I don't need

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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of the perfect jeweler's orbs only a couple and so I'm I actually really like the setup that I have I really hope that it works The only thing that's gonna What are you gonna love with about?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the only thing I'm curious about is I'm not I'm only doing Attribute highway nodes until like level 14 That's when my first minion damage node shows up when I'm starting as the you're not gonna start with minions skills.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How are you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea what's strong just from on its own, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm not going to do melee or attacks because I don't want to be dependent on an item for damage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's going to be some sort of spell.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It might be minions, but I don't know what's what's there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: These are terrible even if you're witch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they're not with their not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's the only thing I'm curious about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and then I'm also kind of excited to keep playing around with the build integration into the game and seeing because so far MaxRoll to me seems like the best iteration of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Peerwee planner doesn't do it, path-building doesn't do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And out of the other websites that I've seen, I like how Peerwee, MaxRoll does it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Have you tried importing one in?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah a few different times and so I'm like I'm making notes on gems and I'm seeing like wear and max World, do I type this for it to show up and when does it show up in the game and how does it show?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Which is cool items that part is so awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I am looking forward to that and I'm like okay Well, you know now if I have a leveling tree and then this is what the final version is same with the gems It's pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm I am kind of looking forward to playing with that I just really hope that the build can

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[SPEAKER_02]: is fun until I start on catcher there and lock in clusters.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're talking like level 12 to 15.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's pushing it a bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're talking the end of act one fight and we agree without a damage note.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You probably could go some of the melee routes, but yeah, it just means you have to pick up melee weapons for the first act.

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[SPEAKER_02]: or I level something completely different, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just do like pure damage until then and then do a complete respawn once I hit act 2 and I hate doing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there wouldn't be very expensive at that lower level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, so it probably would be pretty doable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So actually I don't remember when respecking unlocks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right away, respeckings unlocked as soon as you taught it as soon as the hooded one is

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe the halfway through act one, as soon as you unlock the hood of one, is when you can start respecting, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to try the attribute highway, maybe there's something that works out there, maybe I'll be surprised, but if it ends up being too frustrating, then I'm happy to restart.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm kind of doing the trial and error, and that's one thing that really sucks about them, like being so unorganized with when all their balance stuff is coming out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because by this stage, my impression way way back when beta was first announced, the game would be like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: have gone through many iterations of this is strong, this is not, this is what's available and have way more available, but there's been very little added.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In terms of this, like I've been dealing with the same ascendancy, gem and tree options for two years, there's been very little to change any ideas that I have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they you have, but they have come out with other ones in those two years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're still talking two years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It does not, that's not a lot, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So obviously they haven't done beta the way that I've wanted to, but it's still when I go back and retrospect, even if it wasn't done the way that I wanted, it's still very surprising that I'm dealing with the same options.

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[SPEAKER_02]: for the last two years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I am, but I am excited to try this nonetheless and I am looking forward to seeing if the build works.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The only thing that's frustrating about this kind of trial and error is anything that ends up being strong now could be totally different.

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[SPEAKER_02]: later.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then the counter to that is, well, that's path of Excel, whether it's beta or not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Every three months, it could be different.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So in that regard, that's why it's not dissuading to me and that's why I'm looking forward to the league.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Has nothing to do with the league?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, has nothing to do with new content.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just looking forward to the idea and I'm pretty stoked about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like to be able to play a build, there where I can kind of switch my mood, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's cool, at least I have something to play, or some idea, I actually don't know it all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, can I even see what my characters were from Path of Exile 2?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you see that on their website?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm past 2, you can.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if the website, like it's launch day right now and lead launch five minutes ago, so I don't know if there is everything shutting down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I doubt it shutting down, but I'm trying to load Path of Exile 2.com and so far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not working.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can see my characters in here, though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the same way click on your top right and on your name.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it doesn't, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just look for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It says, like, ugly face with a hashtag.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then my account, yeah, characters, all right, cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh shoot though, it's not gonna tell me because the league, oh it does say ruins of all durr.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That should be, oh, I wonder what it's like because yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Technically this is ruins of all durr and ruins of all durr is gonna last until 1.0.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's why.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why, because it's an event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we, we know that is weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, do I still have access to these characters?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I wouldn't though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they just haven't updated on the site yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe these guys will be instandered because it literally was six minutes ago, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe, so I may have said to you, I made a litch, an abyssal, this is a new league, yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As all new leagues for Bittenright comes the fresh economy and a whole new set of challenges in rewards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I did a witch hunter, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: For Bittenrights, we'll run until 1.0, and we'll end alongside Runes of Alduro.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I know that they still let the challenges run for rooms of other, which is awesome, because people still have time to complete it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand how they're both running.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if this character is really in the league anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they're part of standard, I'm not really sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, uh, well, in that regard, I'm curious what's starting with the fresh economy would do because how do you have a character that's in your character?

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but there's a fresh economy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm curious to see what the interaction is like when we first go to create a new character what that's going to be like because I don't care about rituals.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think these were maybe I'll just play my Smith's the Katava care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see what it's going to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These say ruins of outdoor, but they're going to go to standard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the only thing that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't see how and then it's just the challenges that carry over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I know I read about the challenges carrying over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess we'll find out shortly when we decide to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was just curious what I had played.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A dead eye and a witch hunter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I remember really liking the witch hunter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got that to 93.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember that too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You were really into like the defense of that character was crazy for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember there was a certain note that you revolved around that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it was their ascendancy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a beefy one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So one thing that sucks now with POE 2 specifically is I can see my character and I can look at them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in the past with POE 1, I would know what skills I had played on that character because they're socketed into the items.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't actually see what skills, I don't remember what skills I was playing that would center.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's no way to see what skills you have because the skills aren't socketed anymore into your gear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I, okay, well, so that, I think I played that so that I had like wrapped up and played every class because I hadn't played the mercenary yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now it's just wide open.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll have to figure out something to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good back to control playing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'll let you know how nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really excited.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really hope this mythical table works out for me because that I love that like wearing normal gear ascendancy node So cool like I'm really curious to see what that's like an endgame if that amount of minimal amount of physical damage mitigation actually works to Mitigate everything else properly just enough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean just enough

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll try to have a character too that can if you're struggling and act one get through because you're for you it opens up so much after act one, so it's suck to get locked out before then into what you want to try cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well don't do that for me play if you want to play but I will play just because it's a new league tie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean it's 0.5.5.5.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's new, this is the last, this is the last new thing until 1.0, and it's too full release.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they said, I'm getting, yes, they seriously should have just used official.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just use official.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think also you could just not read too much into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's path of Excel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a pretty good game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that's the problem for me to be like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: not all piss you about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to completely ignore the words they've intentionally chosen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Play everything we've made up until now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not full.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's full currently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's currently full.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, my car only has two tires.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a full car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know they're supposed to be two more tires.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, no, I'm fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to be picky about that wording anymore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, not that's not true at all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're just like a long time on the Christmas, but I'm over it for the time being.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it doesn't matter to me anymore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just frustrating that they're like, yes, full.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, oh, that is not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's like the complete opposite definition of full.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, so I'm sticking with the official.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm changing their wording to this is the last official new release until their official release.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For path 2 yet, and I think they said that there's going to be one more league for path 1 before the official launch of path 2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is what they said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't, they haven't said anything again since that being, and I don't even know where that was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody told me Mark said that somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know where.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a fuffled and mishmashed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We had a private league and it was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: 0.5.5 is coming out and it's going to be great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do they launch the Path of Exile 13.3 with the whole first part of it showing something new for Path of Exile 2 that will be coming out in the official release?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that gets tied into it somehow?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hang on, let me compute all of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they do the full official and then they have an FAQ saying, no, the stuff in path 2 is not coming out in path 1.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The stuff in path 1 is not coming out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But how do you, let's say October rolls around and they want to do a 3.3 path of Excel way to leak.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you do a path of XO1 live announcement about what's upcoming and not have what's gonna be coming in two months for their biggest part of their release They're official release in December not be part of anything that we want.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you can only because they have XL Connor November

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you have something like, you have a user saying like, yeah, we got path to come in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We know it's just around the corner, but you know, we're saving all of our big news for Excel constate tune for news, blah, blah, blah, that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think because Excel comes just around like one month after October and then Excel comes one month before official launch, I think.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they have some good pacing there to keep path one as just path one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there is some very, very big hype and expectation behind Pio-E2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just in our own stuff that I've looked at, you can see a surge of people as Pio-E2 is starting to come to the forefront of being talked about, that I think there's a lot of excitement there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious what this one is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's just a little extra hooray as we work our way towards December.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing really super exciting for me in it, but I'm going to try it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious how they've incorporated ritual into more than what it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really, whatever we'll figure that part out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Be better like King of the Mist.

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[SPEAKER_01]: at ritual is just ritual for me so like it'll be fun to see what they've changed but otherwise there's nothing else to really experience so i don't see myself being held into the end game longer than i already was but then maybe around that time 3.3 will get announced because i am i really want to play bad effects i want to get now after i freaking privately and dying after trying that

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[SPEAKER_01]: Holy relic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, now I want to do that for real for real.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not gonna do it though Just for fun needs to be our league reset or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be a reason So awesome good thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now just 14 minutes ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well for Pooey too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not the same Well, that's I the skill doesn't control Pooey too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There is a draw.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can implement You can put my build into your game Justin, so

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can follow my stream and you in my game would just be lovely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly what I want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what though I will say about the build thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did try it like just doing the import for I like I had made a finish build and I just want to see the tree on the thing that my only thing that I didn't like with it is it became very difficult if I kept the build overlay on to know where I had applied points and not applied points and it's a visual.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so maybe it's easier on keyboard and mouse, but that was one thing that bothered me was I couldn't easily toggle it on and off to be like oh, did the colors just aren't Obviously different from each other enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, they're not they chose like here's a light green and a lighter green.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, actually there's also red, but there's a light green and a lighter green

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the color choices are a bit odd, but I do love the idea of it and the text in it so cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't know how I would ever use that, but I think the idea from a build creator standpoint is so cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And one neat thing, it is really frustrating as a build creator because there's no quick way to do it, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: It even tells you which node is next so this is node number two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is node number three This is really for and it tells you in the game now if you do that apathetically all of a sudden You're like highlighting something that maybe you do as node number 13 and it's node number 78 So there's no ways far as I know to turn that off, but it does pay attention to like when I'm unmatched roll as I've clicked one at a time It's like that's what they clicked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what's next for you

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[SPEAKER_01]: user, but so I do actually think that's what just wish there was a better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what the build will be on your tree where it will show all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it does.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it shows it in red and green on 40 cases.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I said the primary tree versus the green tree, which is weapon set to the colors are way too similar, but does it give you an order of the way you should go that like is it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It does.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And and I agree with you like with what selected and where you've gone was where you should be like it's all very it's it's still needs to work, but it's very it is cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wish I could turn off the number though like if I don't care what they select next.

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[SPEAKER_02]: then come on camera like it's not tough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm right here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it's having a really bad day today But it's like I just love the idea and so I kind of forced to do like a leveling tree as well because the gems

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[SPEAKER_02]: It'll show, like, you know how you can hit X on the controller to show your recommended gems versus all gems.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When you have a build plan are allocated, a third X shows you what the builds gems are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say I have, for people who are just listening to no one to the video, Tyler's camera is absolutely having a rough day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, let's say I'm doing like elemental armament, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's two levels to that, right?

01:00:01.329 --> 01:00:02.909
[SPEAKER_02]: Or poison one, two, and three.

01:00:03.230 --> 01:00:05.771
[SPEAKER_02]: If I'm eventually going with put, come on, camera over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What the heck?

01:00:07.551 --> 01:00:08.212
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

01:00:08.692 --> 01:00:14.074
[SPEAKER_02]: If I'm going with elemental armament two, it won't have elemental armament one.

01:00:15.664 --> 01:00:16.465
[SPEAKER_02]: in the bill.

01:00:16.485 --> 01:00:21.508
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, because it doesn't use it because and so this is one thing that actually don't like.

01:00:21.588 --> 01:00:23.049
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no progression in the system.

01:00:23.390 --> 01:00:24.310
[SPEAKER_02]: No, there is.

01:00:24.370 --> 01:00:26.272
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to properly allocate that.

01:00:26.892 --> 01:00:31.256
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think the problem with that is because there's some gems like

01:00:32.516 --> 01:00:35.037
[SPEAKER_02]: bleed one, bleed two, bleed three.

01:00:35.557 --> 01:00:39.178
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of them are dramatically different where it shouldn't be bleed three.

01:00:39.218 --> 01:00:40.719
[SPEAKER_02]: It should just be a completely different thing.

01:00:40.739 --> 01:00:41.479
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a very different thing.

01:00:41.519 --> 01:00:42.840
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very different.

01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:45.220
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not just a slight improvement or a slight change.

01:00:45.240 --> 01:00:46.281
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just very different.

01:00:46.821 --> 01:00:55.864
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think because there are some modifications to gems where it's level one, level two, level three, level four, where some of them are so dramatically different, you can't have a

01:01:02.086 --> 01:01:08.408
[SPEAKER_02]: manual work both those things, but I just think having that integration is un-supercoolable.

01:01:08.708 --> 01:01:09.808
[SPEAKER_02]: It is so cool.

01:01:10.348 --> 01:01:10.788
[SPEAKER_02]: So cool.

01:01:10.868 --> 01:01:22.932
[SPEAKER_02]: And I can't get over how much, how great that is, just coming from being a guidewriter for 10 years for path 1.

01:01:23.172 --> 01:01:24.312
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that is pretty sweet.

01:01:25.372 --> 01:01:25.932
[SPEAKER_01]: Very cool.

01:01:27.433 --> 01:01:28.473
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, are you going to go play?

01:01:29.730 --> 01:01:33.251
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, my daughter as a friend over and Path of Excel is one of those games.

01:01:33.271 --> 01:01:34.731
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't really play around.

01:01:34.751 --> 01:01:37.072
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they're good too.

01:01:37.252 --> 01:01:45.834
[SPEAKER_02]: 12 and 13 year olds because it's like, like, it doesn't seem like much and seems like, you know, like, all like way too fantasy and distant gory because it's really top down.

01:01:46.154 --> 01:01:57.016
[SPEAKER_02]: But then all of a sudden, you come across, like, had a lot of lady shooting nipple lasers at you for like the sirens there, dancing around and yeah, it's got boobs all hanging out.

01:01:57.057 --> 01:01:58.077
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's kind of like, okay,

01:01:59.597 --> 01:02:05.720
[SPEAKER_02]: What is she going to go on and be like oh that was watching visual look on just gonna come back Do you watch important around my kids?

01:02:06.460 --> 01:02:09.162
[SPEAKER_02]: No So just playing a video game.

01:02:09.722 --> 01:02:13.044
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah It's not my fault they're really good.

01:02:13.524 --> 01:02:23.509
[SPEAKER_02]: No, so I want to I just got to wait till it's appropriate And I just might be tonight maybe after after dark three Are you playing today?

01:02:24.009 --> 01:02:28.471
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, like I know you said you want to chill out, but like are you gonna be able to today or do you have to wait till tomorrow

01:02:29.795 --> 01:02:35.937
[SPEAKER_01]: I it will be closer to when we play or when we record so be if I can get on to it tonight It would be well, maybe I don't know.

01:02:36.177 --> 01:02:43.140
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to see when I get off this call and look at my phone That'll probably determine My chances are We're playing tonight, but

01:02:44.782 --> 01:02:45.462
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we fun.

01:02:45.943 --> 01:02:49.525
[SPEAKER_02]: New league to let us be able to give you a break from from life for anybody.

01:02:49.545 --> 01:02:50.385
[SPEAKER_02]: One of those weeks, man.

01:02:51.006 --> 01:02:51.746
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just life.

01:02:52.246 --> 01:02:53.367
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, let's wrap this up forever.

01:02:53.427 --> 01:02:54.408
[SPEAKER_01]: Excel 360.

01:02:54.548 --> 01:02:55.648
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just naked tags.

01:02:56.009 --> 01:02:57.029
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Tyler record of days.

01:02:57.109 --> 01:02:59.170
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and before we sound off, I know you got your like thing.

01:02:59.231 --> 01:02:59.891
[SPEAKER_02]: But, um,

01:03:00.740 --> 01:03:14.112
[SPEAKER_02]: good luck GGG like obviously we've been harsh on you making fun of you for like the the point 5.5.5.5 release but like hang in there like it's it's one point I was going to be huge and we're really excited for it and keep up the good work.

01:03:14.892 --> 01:03:15.313
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.

01:03:15.433 --> 01:03:22.880
[SPEAKER_01]: And the last few change the date if December 11th gets change if you're going to change it change it to December 12th so that's just 12th 12th.

01:03:23.782 --> 01:03:25.582
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, don't change that's the only change.

01:03:25.842 --> 01:03:27.483
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the only change you're allowed to do.

01:03:28.223 --> 01:03:40.685
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Yeah, I'm excited to play good luck to everybody who's playing what else it up was I gonna say Patrons will catch you now after dark everybody else will see you next week in 361 Hopefully you have fun playing the new league We got a website forever excel.com.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll find them everywhere as well, and I have a great topic

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[SPEAKER_01]: for afterdark.

01:03:53.510 --> 01:03:53.891
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you?

01:03:54.071 --> 01:03:57.678
[SPEAKER_02]: Because we didn't talk about the topic that we said we were going to talk about today.

01:03:58.079 --> 01:03:59.462
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember what the day was.

01:03:59.542 --> 01:04:01.766
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you like Path of Exile 1 or 2 more?

01:04:02.788 --> 01:04:03.710
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's a good topic.

01:04:03.730 --> 01:04:04.892
[SPEAKER_02]: So we can still talk about that.

01:04:04.952 --> 01:04:13.670
[SPEAKER_01]: What I'm going to talk about and bring up the topic is the fact that Jonathan made the comment that why does the game need a loop filter?

01:04:14.251 --> 01:04:16.435
[SPEAKER_00]: So, oh, no later, everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you can't do that to me.