Eventual Excitement

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, come to Forever XL, I'm just Naked Tags, and I'm Tyler Recker of Days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is episode 359 of our podcast together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're here and a big shout out to our patrons like you Joshua for subnip this week and everybody else who resubbed up this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They try and get to access to afterdark as I park us after the podcast Tyler and I just keep ripping and roaring And we appreciate the sport it helps with the private leads.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna talk about as well So thank you so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, hi, Josh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry some people don't like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember once a long time ago This is like talking high school Tiffany was talking about another friend of ours in high school

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was called a tiff, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we went to church through ages.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was always tiff, tiff, tiff, tiff, tiff, tiff, tiff, tiff, tiff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're just like, I like this guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh yeah, we're walking, yeah, me too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why do you like him?

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, because he uses my full name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh, I've been calling your tiff for like an decade.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So hi, Josh, oh, what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Josh, oh, yeah, thanks so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Three and fifty now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got lots of talk about the house wreak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, can you fix that book?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's going on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's going on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, she what I cannot believe it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you want something Jesusy?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I want because this is like the anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is where I just permanently turn it around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank god, it'll all get cut out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that was a good shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, done, QOD.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How's it, Rick?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, what was this week?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, we actually had a normal week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My wife went back to work this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We kind of had like, I don't know, we went to a local restaurant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of seafoody because funny enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we went to this restaurant a while ago to celebrate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was Mother's Day, okay?

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[SPEAKER_01]: or his errands, but the pretty sure his mother's day, and Aaron's always wanted to go, and so he went, and she loved it, but it's seafoody, and so we kind of forced the kids to get something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't force it but did a little bit so they had to get something see foodie and but they were they were like fighting it But one of those things where I just didn't want to ruin mom's mom's day because sometimes the kids can really Fish we got us she now it does not and so we We got like an oysters appetizer not an oysters a muscles appetizer and then they just had they were forced to have five they had to try it enough times

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had to try it enough times and it was like I had to but I decided beforehand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Anyway, that was the thing, but then Violet ended up getting the macaroni and cheese and Oliver got something else He was who's good about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the they like the So funny in terms of Violet gets the adult no Violet gets the adult macaroni and cheese and it has like

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[SPEAKER_01]: bread crumbs and all that's glorious, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's huge, it's glorious, comes a bread and she's like, I don't like it comes a breadcrumbs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She should have had the kids won because of just regular macaroni and cheese is not fancy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She didn't even like what she got and she didn't even get the fish stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all of her, he got something that was more fishy to accommodate and you know be kind and all that and then he looks at vases like that looks like the best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The macaroni and she she doesn't like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like Dallas like the best macaroni and she's on a planet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which, funny enough, slightly broke my wife's heart because she makes homemade macaroni and cheese that she really wants to be the best on the planet and all of us looking at this and so anyway, it was just a funny dynamic where we're out to celebrate her but then

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[SPEAKER_01]: all this kind of funny stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so anyway, we went back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was all of her's last like special pick for the summer went back to that restaurant that local restaurant and but the seafood restaurant, but only to have the adult macaroni and cheese.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The so that he could have the cool bread crown and all the fun stuff and how they made it and So it was funny, so we went to the seafood restaurant, but nobody was forced order seafood stuff, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we did that that was that was a long story for that But that's why we went all over got the dish that he really wanted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He absolutely loved it By the god of the dish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She really wish you got last time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She really loved it Aaron and I got our stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just got a big thing on muscles man like I just I should live in Duncan

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm assuming Duncan has super cheap muscles, just because it's super, because it's because it's good that's where it is and that's what it does, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just pick them up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But um, penny a piece.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I just got a big, bold, and obviously it's not going to fill me up, but what am I going to do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get muscles at a non-seed food place where it costs me twice as much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so yeah, we did that, but my wife went back to work and the kids are kind of like getting in the routine for school, their buddies are starting to come back from their trips and all that kind of stuff, so it's it's almost like it felt like a weekend from school, you know, and I was getting all pissy with another one of my sons parents, we were like, oh, the school sucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that's none of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, of course, but then they were like have you checked the website?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like you have course object website and then we all kind of sit there and like Kind of expecting that news to come to us and realize what maybe we didn't check the website Anyway, the school list is on the website.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't announce it because it's the same every year They just like like PDF of grade six grade seven grade eight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what you need and it's all checked off or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm like So we were joking in chat about how we don't have anyone to be angry about but we still need to be angry somebody for something

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was my week man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was my week nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a good week and I played a lot of the private league this week Oh, did you good?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to hear about it until last night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that must have been because you hit your cap and you were happy with where you were at I was your week My week was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was I played the private league two characters in the private league

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am, uh, oh yeah, I can't, uh, I finished book five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was meowing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know if it was getting in the, I can't hear it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I finished book five of Dungeon Crawler Coral.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm now on the book six, the final.

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[SPEAKER_00]: book where he just keeps getting bigger and bigger, like the books have been getting progressively massive and massive and massive and books sixes where it seems to end, they seem to get back to decrease in in size after books six from what I've seen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this one's huge, like it's too big, but book five was awesome, I loved book five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I finished that and What did we do through the week?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just just worked trying to think of anything fun Let me see if my calendar shows me anything fun that I did because it was predominantly just work in meetings really good work stuff, but yeah Just hung out

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where did we, oh, we watched a race?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, that was early in the week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: God, the sprint was the most boring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, this is what I've waited a summer break for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God, just please get rid of the sprint.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was awful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The race was at least a tiny bit better, but like not much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, love the track by the two teams were kind of stupid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was nice that tires and strategies were all different across the board That's nice because it's not always the case, but actually found that teams were pretty stupid that I thought for you was pretty on point It is so mind boggling though that it happens

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[SPEAKER_00]: more than one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just an existing fog of we're going to wait for laps to make a decision about something that takes you don't need time to make that decision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just basic math about who's got what tire on what strategy who should be in front.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But to take four laps to do that, but like race after race, season after season, like doing that once Henders you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, shoot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We missed out in a couple of minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's not do that again Over and over and over

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's almost like making announcements, and then underestimating how much work goes into the announcement or the details of your email and not being able to follow through, just keep moving over and over and over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you're talking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But here's the crazy thing, Hamilton's chasing Russell for third, right, for Ari's fourth and fifth, Hamilton's in fourth chasing for Ari for third and he's probably going to get him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Russell would have to brace and he could, she was very capable of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He would have to race perfect and phenomenally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to be able to keep third place, because Hamilton's on fresher tires, he's going better Russell's just positioning his car perfectly, but he's like Hamilton was in Abu Dhabi 21, just hung out to dry, on super old tires.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What does La Clare do in fifth?

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[SPEAKER_01]: La Clare starts lunging over and over for fourth place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's say he gets fourth place, while Ferrari still fourth and fifth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hamilton goes to fifth, La Clare goes to fourth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if he just backed off, because nobody was close to them in six, if he just backed off, Hamilton could have had third, the podium, and then for our against third and fifth, that was weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And people were like, oh, I love LaClaire's drive, and there's something like, what the heck?

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[SPEAKER_00]: When he wouldn't even come into, like when they called him in, he's like, nope.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we did one more lap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, like if I'm, if I'm Ferrari, I'm like, listen, buddy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, spanking, spanking, spanking, spanking, spanking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, it was, I like the race more than you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, so I'm cooler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna put a pause, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to take this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not for much longer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we're back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, but hey, I had a phone call that I could not get to, I had to take that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and a phone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, but were we, were you just, you were finishing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have lost it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, I closed my blinds, I shaved my beard, because I remember I didn't have that like tingling feeling from shaving and I told my son he could back him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what happened in the last 10 hours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but what were we, oh yeah, anyway, I actually don't think we were done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You were talking about Dungeon Crawler Carl shrinking, thanks for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's up, not even finished book one yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: growing and shrinking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but you don't even like book ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not gonna read the rest of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You discussed me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm even talking to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you are curious what I think at the end of book one, which I'm, uh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm curious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm on page 400.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's like 450 pages.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm coming to the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We finish fringe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You finished last range.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We finished.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am curious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's one of my all-time favorites.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we both love these harsh really.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there is there's parts of it that you get a bit annoyed with that you don't really like and there's still I still find there's some storylines that I'm like

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[SPEAKER_00]: something weird there, but in general, I loved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that guy who plays Walter went an incredible actor, isn't totally moly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And his story is so cool, like to have the story focus around that, even though it's around Olivia is really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you remember, but I told you, I love the journey, but I hated the ending.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the journey was good enough that right I could still recommend it despite the fact that I didn't like the ending so I don't know if you remember that is you're going through things, but no, and you like the ending better than I did I didn't like the ending in the ending was okay the ending was like fine, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that for the last, probably probably the entire last season and maybe even a few like a quarter of the fourth season, I was kind of like, it's moving, they're trying to like, now push this fast forward this to an end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because you lost the, what I loved about the show, which is just these fringe events and then them solving them, but yet there was a sort of larger storyline that was happening in the background.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really enjoyed that whole part of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when you eventually got to the point where it was just storytelling now, it wasn't, it wasn't individual events per episode where you had to actually be like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll shoot what happened last episode because otherwise you're lost, but there's a good show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were both happy to be done too because we were what there's other shows we want to watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so, Path of Exile Time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk privately first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what happened to you last night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you want to play one character?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just played one character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Level 71 or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I died to Ketaba at the inactant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I've ever done that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What part would attack?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what move?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I zoned out and I came to mid, mid fight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that happened sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why go such defensive, like, you know, hard core characters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When I, like, remembered or realized what I was doing, even it was just like a blank of an eye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was standing in the middle of, like, I couldn't see what was damaging me, so it must have been, like, the floor of the fire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That he put so, and then the fire, and I just, like, my health was going down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My life-lask was not helping it, but my, like, my resist, everything was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was at 79 resists across the port.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had 2,500 health.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had 69 chaos resists.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was super excited to get going and I'm like, you know, what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I even made my Atlas pass of tricks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was so confident.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I'm going Nico.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't, I'm not going to care about the Atlas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to go, delve, Nico, delve, Nico, delve.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was, that was great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then I got caught in a part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't know what happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But all of a sudden, I got to a part where I was like, wait, what, what's going on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just, like, it was just

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[SPEAKER_01]: damage that I couldn't mitigate against because I was mitigated against everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And something that my life flask couldn't handle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it was one of those situations where I should have been in one of the corners.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the red was everywhere and sometimes the red goes in the corner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know what happened because I don't remember if you don't know which side he started on your introble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And which always a stupid boss design when there's like something just like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, the point is like, because I don't remember how I got to that situation, I don't actually know what it was with the exception of just being in like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, knowing that boss fight better and being it there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and I don't think I've ever died to that boss before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the second time you do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've already been taught the boss because of that five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, that was too bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't like a dumb rare mod, mod or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was really like my character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I was seven levels over leveled.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's seven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm 71 at the end there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think to finish off it was 68.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I was doing like I was six or seven levels over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The entire time, but then by the time I got there I was the whole 71 I think is when I died, but like I wasn't even doing the league mechanic I don't even go under once.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't go in the water once.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just weren't I just dropped the all flame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I didn't want to risk it going down there Like I'm not I'm not gonna be restarting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have the time for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got the 71 on one character in a week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's not I'm not restarting Especially because I don't get the lantern mechanic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So all I did was click on the chests get my rares and move on

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I was enjoying my gear and I actually really really liked For the most part just white gear dropping right because that was our modifier for those that don't know We'd right we're probably gonna get ends on Monday and The only modifier we had besides hardcore was that no magic and rare items dropped right

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[SPEAKER_00]: which funny enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that many unique's normally drop or if it changes the math for I don't need to drop, but there's a lot of load.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, I had so many alks because all I did was vendor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right, everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How wasn't trading with you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so yeah, I'm going through and I'm just getting like butt loads of normals, but it's nice because then I'm just like sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like hanging on to all my essences, which I would anyway, but I'm like okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sweet, sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sweet, sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's a ring that I want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And here's a baste up that I want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just crafting everything, and I had way better gear than I normally have while leveling, just because I cared about normals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but in the regular game, you have to get rid of them super fast, because of how much crap there is in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was just, I really liked it, and because there was, well, I guess I did have my build specific filter on, but there was way less crap on the ground, like it was actually a really nice loading experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It did not feel too much at all the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a bit marvellous and so it kind of goes back to a really old discussion that you and I have had where I've mentioned many times like you can't have a Plathora of bases and a Plathora of currency.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to pick one of the other it's either

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[SPEAKER_01]: the drops that you're getting are going to be slightly modified, or you have base type rare, like rare, based drops, not rare is in the rarity, but rare is, sorry, rare is in the frequency.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In Frequent, based type drops, but then but loads of currency to be able to manipulate them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you want that heavy belt, okay, maybe it'll show up once every five maps or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now you can manipulate it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or once every ten maps, who knows, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you have crap loads of base types and then crap loads of rarities on top of the base types and then crap loads of currency.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just converts the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this was a really nice experience because of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really enjoyed that and Because it was just such a it was a good loot experience But actually let me there was one more thing that I wanted to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah So I wasn't using charts and I wasn't gonna deal with Marx because Marx or Terrificer oh, no they're bright Like I clicked on like the first three that I clicked on were like oh, yeah

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[SPEAKER_01]: With the screen with their like ice traps and whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, I can't like I'm trying to like live here I can't like I need to be awake when you're finished.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So after the first few murks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, no, I'm I'm done with you guys So chartless, mercless, and I forgot So you invited me on on my old account quote unquote like the PC account that I would normally use, but I converted everything You you joined.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't invite you

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you must have been logged into that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you click the link, we'll be sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I now when GGG had their like a count splitting or combining thing, I put everything onto my Xbox account, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because now I can use it on both and it just worked better that way for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know how it happened, but I ended up joining the private league on my old PC account, which is fine, but then I load up and I'm like, oh, I've got like four regular tabs, and that's it, like all my currents, everything's on the other side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have like one tab that I can't manipulate and then yeah, and I'm like

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have anyone do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need all of my tabs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's funny though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I started filling up one tab was just full of currency and then I had an essence tab and then I had a map tab and then an items tab.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all I needed free to play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you actually play on your your that account?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought you made it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, just stay on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just joined on the account.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So well, yeah, I asked you to add that one's because I was in case I died early.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to drop her account.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So um, I'll see you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did have a nice good for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so it was it was funny to play the free experience, the free tab experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had a good time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was really disappointed that because I like I was taking

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, I mean, except for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to wear it ever until you actually get your stuff set up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was like, it was no joke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it was to the point where I'm like, OK, I'm going to stop playing now because I haven't even thought about my life last for a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, to the point where my my fingers not even hovering the light, flat, great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just moving the analog stick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My whole hand was like crunched under.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I wasn't even ready to hit LB for the life last, and I'm just like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when I realized a few times that I was doing that, like my health wasn't even moving.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was really frustrating to die to something I don't know where I like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's too bad, but because the character could have easily gone further.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that sucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Zone out when...

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[SPEAKER_01]: So everyone's pretty good though, I guess, in general, but not for what the character was doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, that's too bad that you died to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's the one to my first death, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, I saw you on the leaderboard a couple of times two times tie I was so sad I was so mad when I was both of them my first character was you and I talked about And after dark we talked about let me just turn that down a tad bit holy crap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you and I talked about my build in after Dark when I first started what I was playing and then I was going to go guardian and I was playing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I tried to absolutely shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was trying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did I level with?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, maybe, no, it was now solution.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was trying different ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What that was it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about dominating blow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I ended up getting Dominium, but I pulled my character because I knew I was going to forget.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dominating blow of inspiring on my second lap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I was doing in the second lap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, all right, let's go Dominium blow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I played him Dominium blow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was so fun, so strong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was really having a good time with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was into maps, cutting game, and I'm working my way through the Atlas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I was,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt like I was maybe pushing pretty hard, like I was getting into the base level of red tier maps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the polaric invitation had dropped a few times, and I had been ignoring it because I was like, well, if you don't pick up the polaric invitation and do it, which is the skyfall avalanche or whatever, that boss, you know the boss I'm talking about, you go on the red or the fire side and the cold side?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's the one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, if you don't pick it up and do it, then you can continue to do tier 11 maps with the, um, um, um, altars, whereas if you do it, then you got to push up towards tier 14 and tier 15 maps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to continue running the red or blue altars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So by not picking it up and doing it, you can continue doing those altars for longer at lower tier maps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, now I'm not going to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I picked it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I know what it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I picked it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I'm going to just go into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because if I just go into it, I get the yellow text.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I want that yellow text.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I never get, I want as many yellow texts I can get.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I did, I got the yellow text when I entered it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, sweet, I got it in grass.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I hit escape to think this one through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I don't think I should do this fight right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If there's no reason for me to do this fight, people in chat were even like, well, if you don't like it, if you don't feel good about it, you can only just leave.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It comes again into two maps and whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, no, I'm not gonna do what I left the zone and then I don't remember what happened I had to do something at the house here came back the map was still up and I was like, okay I should just see how it feels and then I can always leave because you can't you can't I sleep so I go in start the fight up and you know how sometimes when you haven't done something in a long time you don't remember it

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[SPEAKER_00]: at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a really bad fight to not remember at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the other problem is the bill that the bill that I was playing was very, there were there was not much floor that I could see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't really see too much of the ground.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't hear her say,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hold on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Astro avalanche.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that because that was character 2's name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She said, Astro avalanche.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so in my brain, I'm like, oh, I need to go to the...

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[SPEAKER_00]: See, even as we talk about it right now, fireside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you got to go to the fireside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I couldn't quite clearly see where on the map I was in the circle, where the thing was at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the time I realized that I was right in the middle of the dark zone, the space zone, I was like, oh shoot, I couldn't move and it was instantly dead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But whatever that avalanche happens, it was just instant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was dead, just poof.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, third place on the ladder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: get a chance to see if I could do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was so bummed out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I, that's a rigidity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought like, no, I'm not playing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why I thought that given it was like Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like Saturday or Sunday, so I'm like, no, I'm playing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I did play another character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This time though, I was, what did I do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember, oh, I saw people talking about something called H-H-R-O-C. H-R-O-C.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, all right, what is this thing that I see people in, in, in our discord and in game that we're talking about it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I looked it up because I didn't know what that stood for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was wholly relic of, I don't know, conviction, conniving, because something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so I thought, okay, maybe I'll give that a shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I know why I thought I would do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a job freeze, um, crown drop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in my previous guy and I remember even seeing that they go that's the plus one to holy relics I'm like, okay, I've got the unique item already, I'll go do some labs, maybe I'll see if I get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... so i played that and i found um... bailing age had a build for it so i read through his little thing i was curious how it all worked and i was like oh it's actually seems quite fun like the idea behind it seems really fun i'm gonna give this shot so i started leveling it played that one absolution as i was going through and it was going through fine and then you got a farm the labs right to get these stupid transfigured gems uh-huh i don't like that but um

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did for a while, I got so to the point that I was doing merciless lab, so I hadn't done the last Katavia, like, well, this is the best time to do it, merciless has the better chance of getting that one that is that you can actually turn it the gem into a transfigured gem of itself versus just a random blue greener red, so you just got to get lucky with the font.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So as doing merciless lab, I went from level 64 to 72 in the lab, trying to farm these stupid

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a bit of time to the point that I had memorized the merciless lab.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I knew exactly where to go where I could get dark shines three dark shines on the way, the layouts of the zones, new them all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To the dark shines help your chances, like you get more chances.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you get the two shots of the divine font then yes, so you can get a chance where you get

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[SPEAKER_00]: but also it just sometimes helps make the run faster and easier right if you get something that makes you tank your quicker or whatever so I did that and I did that for a long time and I did eventually get the holy relic of conniving or convincing or whatever it is but I could not get you you need to you I needed to get two transfigure gems

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank God, somebody, and I offered a part of your anatomy for anyone who found for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me know when you needed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They chose not to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They said that they would prefer, I think I gave them 4GCP.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they'd preferred that instead, so, uh, and still my left nut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they didn't want, they didn't want that, uh, so I did get it, I got to play it and I was having so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like to the point that one thing the bothers me about a privately because it's hardcore, so I think hardcore is stupid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I quite often like the build that I'm playing and but now I've played it to a point where, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, my first one died at 85.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This one died at 90, I mean, one, I think, one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so something like 91.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, like, so then it's hard to go like, oh, do I want to play that again?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this one, this one I actually really wish I kept going further with because I was really enjoying it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you're talking about only self-crafted stuff, besides the huge thank you for the getting that other transfer your gem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was still a lot I could have tried to do with the build, which I was quite excited to try and figure out and I was feeling insanely tanky like it was really really fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I, how do I die?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you tell me what the relic does, what's different with this relic?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why do you need this relic?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yes, I will, but I can also tell you that I actually had to go back and try to read through Baylor Mages.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did a really nice write-up, so I was trying to read through it, because one of the things I wasn't fully understanding is I couldn't, I even still, like I'd need to go back and spend some more time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had it in POB, everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't fully understand it's tankiness.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was, it was really, really tanky, holy relic of conviction is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It triggers a spell, the short cooldown rate, and the deal's physical damage enemies nearby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a nearby to where you did the damage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when you're using lancing steel of spraying, every time that lancing steel is hitting, your holy relics are doing their moves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you have that holy relic attack that is circle, happening all over the map and like pulsing tons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and then it's doing chance of poison,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's got life gain on hit which that actually you could build the any build that builds life gain on hit I kind of am in like that just reminds me of games we used to play and I love that the idea that if I do more attacks I'm getting more health and that reminds me also to have really early peo we won when that came out and you know in the beginning of leach started and stuff so I really enjoyed it I felt extremely tanky what the heck killed me it wasn't something hard at all oh no that's gonna bug me

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just died like yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Huh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was doing, uh...

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was progressing malice, having some fun with my Atlas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that was another thing too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had, I learned a lot about like...

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[SPEAKER_00]: harvest craft because they don't spend enough time in harvest because they don't really I don't know if I like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's too many crafts to try and know it all like that craft in the horticulture bench just has so many things that I get a bit lost in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was having fun doing that but I was building on my Atlas and I'm like, wow, you know, I'm going to go destructive play and put, you know, whenever you kill, you go to do the boss, based on how many enemies you've killed, more bosses will spawn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because I felt good, I felt thank you, I was doing fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I was doing a map and I had full clear the map and I'd go to do the boss and five bosses spawn in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what I had noticed it, but I hadn't fully noticed that one of the bosses that spawned in

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[SPEAKER_00]: is, I don't know what, I think he's from lab laboratory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He looks like an ants, what's the MTX at you and I are huge fans of, it's like, it's the RF one that you can't even see the ground.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the solar, the solar, the solar, yeah, sarcastic, we're super sarcastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like no, actually we do like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do just have a funny story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's some problems with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Funny about the sense of story about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not meaning that that this is actually the celestial version, but like the dark celestial version there's this guy who like does a huge overhead slam and he hits the ground.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a big circle of like like on the way to puddle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah on the way to the shape or there's that's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That same guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's that boss and I did not see him wind up his slam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I didn't see his hands go up because there was so much stuff happening on the screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was showing up in a ritual.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it was a destructive play on the Atlas makes it so that when you go to the boss and Maven witnesses, based on how many enemies you've killed, more random bosses spun in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know he was technically a boss though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is for laboratory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think is the map.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the map where you go to the four corners and turn it over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, no, I'm getting when you said laboratory I was thinking lab.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, the actual map lab.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, no, I remember that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hate that map so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just keep sending you and it's like back and forth or you do this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I got to get a portal to this match got to get a portal like no, I just want to fight that I just want to fight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to run to the Elden Beast on the other side of the map.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That smash one shot me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I had like, wow, a super, super defensive, 4,000 or something health, like, I was, I didn't feel like I should have been getting one shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm reduced damage to crits, like I have no idea how, but it instantly killed me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I, again, was another scenario where I probably just could have continued doing, like, tier 14 and 15, not rolled maps and then just fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I get bored.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to try and push for further and further, so anyway, I had a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But now I don't know what to do because I really like that build and I was debating do I want to try it again?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then I don't know when I'd play it because I have no idea what's happening with Power The Vex.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even imagine you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, we can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is a fun conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Imagine you actually wanting to play that character, but not wanting to restart because you don't like restarting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you actually attempt to play your character in standard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I won't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I already know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you won't, but I just imagine like the little things you have to go to to get back to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I won't, you know, you look at your stash tab.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all I would take.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like how many currency tabs are you gonna have even just finding the one that's actually active as opposed to the removal only ones and oh, man Yeah, oh, that would be how it's a dead character to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It will never be seen again But then just like then you think about like

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[SPEAKER_01]: all the motivations to try and play that character in standard, like do you want to do all that farming again?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to do all this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then again, like a different league, you could just go by them now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if I was playing a full trade league, it would have felt like I got to the point I was that much faster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then that's also probably why I enjoy the process of our private leagues, because

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[SPEAKER_00]: You are forced to do things differently than how you normally, what at least I am because I play for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I mean, it's not solo cell phone, but as close as you're ever going to get to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like not the one item.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even just as a friend to hear, like, how you would normally play versus how you went about it in this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's neat because I was curious like I was looking at your build just through the website, which of course is a pretty manual process as you piece things together and I'm like this doesn't sound like something he would have put together all this was own like these aren't skills that he would normally like something ascendancy he would normally like so I'm like how did he that was me reading and then it's interesting though because like I got some unique where I'm like man like these are

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[SPEAKER_01]: These are nice unique.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got the mark of the red covenant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know that I look really like SRS.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got belly of the beast and you know I'm just gonna stick on defensive stuff and I there was actually quite a few unique that I ended up saving just because like I think I think I think I think I got all of Dodre's set It was pretty awesome But no, like I know them really suited my build.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean once I got enough jewelers I could have tried to six length or five length belly of the beast, but I wasn't there yet night five links

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[SPEAKER_01]: are so easy to come by because of the whole white socket thing now, and so Like not the saying like five links are easier, but there's just more five links that drop that now I can accommodate because now the only restriction isn't What colors are gonna roll on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The five link that was dropping just on an invasion based type was not going to like it would be all like green Right now it's all white so now I can get it

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, anyway, I mean, I was going to eventually get there, but there wasn't really a hurry because five links are just almost as good as six links.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Since they made that change like three years ago, or whatever, for how, there are some math change they did to make six links less powerful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they've felt less mandatory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a few years ago, I forget what it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So my overall take with the privately which good luck to everybody who's finishing it off this weekend, I didn't really enjoy it, but with changing the only no-wrares and no-magic drops, it just reminded me about the fact that I don't think most of the gear comes from the ground, like from drops, and we talked about this before, like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was doing all the charts, and I was doing the charts for the for the currency, which I would then take into the all-flame to craft it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would get some on my bases, but sometimes I would actually find my bases from the vendor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Instead, and then I would be taking my vendor, my those

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[SPEAKER_00]: basis, whether I would take that to essence, it's all flame crafting to harvest crafting to whatever else it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I needed a six link, so I was doing the breach tree because that's still the best way to just get a six link body armor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's, I don't, it kind of just, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It made me feel the same way I felt about loot, about Path of Exile, just like it's not on the ground.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not getting it from killing the mob, and we're not getting it anyway from killing the mob, so it wasn't actually taking much away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that modifier really didn't...

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[SPEAKER_01]: It probably affected how many alterations and like that's what it affected, but I don't know that it affected my gear very much so No, I was I was the same way I was looking for whites and It was nice to like the essences are great, but they're cheating But they're great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just it's like that guaranteed mod you're getting like all you're doing is re-reading every single essence you have until you're like, okay I'm getting that guaranteed mod.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, I had some really good like all my items actually that I like I was capped with resist like I said I was at 79 across the board and then 69.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All my items that I ended up manipulating didn't come from the ground.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I would still interact a heavy belt drops because I'm still short of the first half of my tree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on the inside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I need even though I'll end up having more strength than end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need strength at the beginning just a couple of gems.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm always looking

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just as good as a leather belt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You get a lot of life from it anyway, so whatever And so I'm picking up stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm picking up my Ruby rings and all that kind of thing, but then Like and you know all Transmute them and if I like that then I'll log them and if I like that then I'll regal them and sometimes You know you're down on your luck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you'll regal something crappy anyway You'll use a few extra alks because I'm vendering all my uniques like I like to do so I'm always having a falks

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[SPEAKER_01]: Essences, of course, like I ended up having like 20 essences in my just inventory as I'm running around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like remember back in the strong box, day you would always run around with like the alks and scours, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the same kind of thing for me, except it was just with all my essences, but I ended up getting so many that at which sometimes I level and I like, I don't find any essences at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll find sure you through the campaign.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This time I found like, there were all over the place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so there's many, many, many, but you know what I actually found to be the most beneficial and it was unknowing, but I would be okay with this if there wasn't eight million different ways to get loot the vendors I kept going to the vendors and I'm like sweet there's there's a calling wand not a convening wand a calling wand so the lower into one

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's three-socketed and it's already magic with plus 40-million damage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll look at the decks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do they call it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: A Jade Amulet and it's magic already with a Jade Amulet and life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, they just roll better in the vendor inventory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how they roll over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I kept going back after every level up and didn't seem different, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But eventually they change at some point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's just an internal clock or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's where I found everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All my gear came from the vendors and then I'm like all that's amazing I'm gonna wriggle that and then it like so I like all my rings We're literally just like it was like a Sapphire ring or a toe-paz ring and a paving life and one other Only one other resist on it resist on it because you know I'm going back and I'm checking off to stop it and often so they're all just like this

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[SPEAKER_01]: with two good mods, then the regal, which obviously rolls crap, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Murphy's lots gonna roll crap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I just craft the other suffix on it, which is the third thing of the resistance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I hadn't unlocked chaos res yet, but I was getting so much chaos res from the tree and my gallum that it was very easy for me to prioritize chaos resistance instead of

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, so I had, like it was really mediocre roles across the board, but because it was such a controlled experience because I was, it was basically shopping like ritual.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I got just got to keep going back and back and back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It ended up being a very easy loot experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, that's fine, but if we go to the broader loot discussion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like when you have that many different avenues of crafting and that many avenues of getting loot and that many different avenues of here's how many base types I get versus how much currency I get and all that it just ends up being very convoluted and so as we get into the discussion of the announcements that came this week in path to there's lots to be said or not all here say of course the the thing to is like gambling if you if you actually gamble for loot

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw a lot of people talking about gambling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The gambling loot from Faustus or whoever you're gambling from can be an extremely good way to a good year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, the privately for me out of good time, it was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Me too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really enjoyed that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to keep playing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I may have to try this build out in an only, or what, sorry, let me interrupt, please go back to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do want to, I will forget.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to, um, anybody that like messages me in game, whether it's a private message.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or just like a guild message a party message whatever it is global chat like I'm not trying to ignore you I literally don't see it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have my chat like the slider bars are literally all to the right It says tall and it says why it is possible just so that I can see that I have the chat like massive I do

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know, it's like a spam message, it's like a toast that comes across my A band that comes across my phone like I I don't know why I don't see it all every now and then I'll see like FFFFFFFFFFFF and I'm like what quick it's like there's a huge yellow bar that showed a fall across my screen and wrapped around my head and tightened itself And I didn't see it and so then I go and then I see somebody died at position level 11 or something and so

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I quickly write in sucker, but then I realize that I say suckers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you're already like, okay everybody, I'll see you later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like they've already gone through the, oh yeah, this is how I died and this is how I did it and they've already talked about it for 30 minutes and by the time I write sucker because they died.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're already gone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When did I end it end on Monday, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't mean to ignore people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I literally don't see it, so please don't be offended.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But also I will be playing on my Xbox account.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll post like my one of my character names or something on discord somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to friend me on the other one, you're very welcome to and yeah, and don't feel like it's awesome getting messages and Hello's from people like don't ever feel like you're I don't know like if you want to say hello like he's purposefully ignoring you just takes it No, just like don't ever feel like you can't say hi or anything like that like we're just sounds really weird to say what we're just

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[SPEAKER_00]: guys people are interrupting our life or anything like that or we're like important or anything just I will say hi you know yes of course there's a there's a fire right now for first is there so yeah except it's only between one living person and multiple dead people

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's the Lucy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the woo-hoo is currently in first, but there is the only person alive that's currently in the 90s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good luck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is it top 10?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a top 10, it's a legend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then only first place gets the skull then now is a, yeah, yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how we do it anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I could still be in the top 10.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm currently in fourth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So as long as nobody pushes me out of there, you're going to be so cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Should we put legend above everything else in our discourse?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know what that is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just so you can get green for a sec.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's not a mod.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand anything he says.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just go green to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, it was fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about the path of Excel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did their announcement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: they did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So a couple of announcements.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it last week?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember, okay, yes, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So last week in our episode, we were talking about like, what on earth could this announcement be about?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, nobody was expecting a path to announcement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But all of a sudden, there's this tweet like, hey, path to live reveal next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely like a quick announcement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a video announcement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So part of our conversation last week was,

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[SPEAKER_01]: to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they said, like, okay, after 0.5, we're going away from the schedule and it's just going to be the 1.0.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, their most recent announcement was that 0.5.5 was going to be a big balance overhaul.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was their last announcement before the announcement of the video announcement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: balance overhaul and then no more leagues until one burrito.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just going to be what's ready is ready and we'll come up with a little event for you in the meantime to get stuff done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody has a timeline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody's expecting anything and nobody cares when it comes out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Justin and I have said many times we've had lots of praises and lots of criticism throughout the beta process but at the end of the day Justin and I were not like

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[SPEAKER_01]: we're gonna wear when it comes out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just do we like the current content or not, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so all of a sudden they're like, oh, got a video announcement coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so last week we were like, well, what's worth the video announcement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We go through different options like new ascendancies, new base types, new, I don't know, my fingers were crossed for, hey, they're wiping out how you ascend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know all that kind of stuff, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's also gamescon going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I forget wherever that is, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they're all busy wherever it is that gamescon is that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they had a big reveal at the gamescon as well, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I found that out this morning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just know that they were, that they did an announcement for the POE 2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know December 11 was the day until I watched it yesterday for the recap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, because I didn't watch a thing live, because I didn't know about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't watch a live either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love the tweets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they picked it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they picked it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, that is the weakest way ever to announce when Path of Exile 2's coming out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they said it in the thing, just like, yeah, December 11, you get to play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then this morning I ran through discord and catch them on the P.V.

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[SPEAKER_00]: News and I'm like That's how they did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's cool, but I was like, wow, maybe the game's cons bigger everywhere else in the world than for us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe it just means I just missed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they did came out with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come up with that and they tweeted it or X.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would ever Can't say X did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Elaunchers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, dumb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just crossed it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Good make a joke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so okay you set a date.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Love when they do that works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, you're you're really going to date and Which that was thinking about that got me actually just thinking about like personifying everything in GGG is actually going out on a date.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah, no, I'll meet you there at the lounge at seven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well,

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[SPEAKER_01]: didn't have time to shower.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have time to decide.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I underestimated how much time we would take to get ready for my date.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I have some comments about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm 11.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But let's keep going.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, let's do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, everybody that we're moving into GGG's announcement that they marketed a week earlier that nobody to me, they sort of relate in the just in the sense that I

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they are doing a December 11th release, I would school, we kind of guess that's around the time that they would do when anyway rakes and makes the most financial sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it scares me a tiny bit about those just the fact that they didn't do anything they said they were gonna do for this upcoming update.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that means that all of those things are coming out with the one point no release and you have two weeks till Christmas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope that it's fine for their staff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well,

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[SPEAKER_00]: because that's a bit freaky to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no balance patch that's coming with 0.5.5, which I think is unfortunately sucks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd really, I'm not a fan of that, but then all of the things that are up in 1.0 means that all of that stuff has to be fixed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if there's the comment that is actually surprising to me that if it doesn't work for this, it's for launch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're seeing months away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why can't it come out in between?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I tried to read about that, because apparently, so I didn't watch the Q&A, I saw some comments though that people talked about where there was apparently that came up in the Q&A, and there was comments about the fact that because of the new swords coming out, that there were things that would interfere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really understand at all, and in the end, they're the ones who have to be fine with whatever they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If there was a difficulty with it, that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But,

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[SPEAKER_00]: their Q&A is the player base, and to have all of that coming out in the 1.0 release, such as seems like a lot, and two weeks before grace.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thanks a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost, it's like being set up to fail, almost to have to make it much harder content, because

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[SPEAKER_01]: like you're coming out so oh man there's so much to unpack and I have notes here people to be positive be positive but keep in mind these are not hour announcements these are not hour timelines and these are not hour and I'm gonna talk I mean for me I'm gonna say we're gonna say what we want to say and some of it's possible some of it's positive I mean I love the source we are crazy excited for Path of XL2

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[SPEAKER_01]: and it's official release, but here's the thing that is really surprising to me and just none of this bodes well for the future.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They already have like multiple times throughout the past year, where it's like, hey, we're really going to do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, we didn't do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we underestimate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, we're going to do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, even just when it came to like, remember when they released

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was supposed to come with huge end game changes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They announced it halfway through the league prior, like, hey, like we're actually adding, you know, all these tower changes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're adding all these tower changes now because we're having all these end game changes coming later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we just don't want to overwhelm you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the patch comes out, or the league comes out, and it's not there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right it is not ready and it's not this and it's not that and they've done that a few times hey we're going to do this two on two off schedule and they do it like for a loop in a half right maybe six months not even and it's like okay now we're bailing on that like it's just there it's it's a situation where they're they're saying this and not doing it saying this

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[SPEAKER_01]: we want to be excited for, we are excited for it, but there comes a point where you can only cry wolf so many times and it's like, all right, like, at there's that some point your hype means nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And unfortunately, this announcement, so last week they came out with an announcement saying, hey, in one week, we're going to show you some stuff on Twitch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be wicked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when that finally comes out,

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[SPEAKER_01]: they did two things, so the December 11 release, the official date that they were announcing for whatever marketing reasons that they have at GamesCon, that was prior to their launch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it was supposed to be in cohesion with, of course, but it was prior.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't part of their official announcement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was already old news by the time you get to the big reveal, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: As you discovered, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was mentioned very casually to you when you...

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, sorry, the only thing I was going to say is you're right because I thought that what they were showing me was what was coming in .5.5 So then halfway through for them to say you get to play it in December 11th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, what the fuck, what are you doing there, sorry to make you so two things happen in this announcement one they're talking about now a class not an ascendancy

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[SPEAKER_01]: that's coming out in December, a base type of weapon-based type and skills that are coming out in December.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And everybody in Path of Exile and knows three months means none of that's gonna happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything's gonna change.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it could be different for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything can change, especially because if you don't have the full game figure though, and you don't actually have the system going and you're like, okay, I'm just filling in the blanks and connecting the dots, but I know the bigger picture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, that's going to change a hundred thousand times, like that's like sure that's cool if it's coming out in the next patch or the next event, but it's not, it's coming out in December, so it's like, well, that's really cool ideas you guys have, but that means nothing to me now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like in a non-bata GGG game, telling me something three months early means nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Telling me something three months early in GGG beta land.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is even more futile, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like it's cool, awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They basically said that the base dualist is going to be available and swords for 1.0.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what that whole announcement was because nothing else they say regarding that is worth holding on to because it's,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Path of Excel, like it's going to change on your times, and that's okay, but that's not exciting because it's three months away, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's part of the announcement, but then the other part of the announcement was, hey, you know everything that we were really hoping to do for five or four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What was it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Five point five point five point five?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not ready.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully you're like ritual because we have an ritual event going on for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Economy reset if you like, but that's actually all we have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing else we have planned for path 2 is coming out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the weird thing for me is just that

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[SPEAKER_01]: They came out with that announcement a week ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What, like, that's only a week, where you go from, yes, we're ready to announce this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very confident in what we have to, no, not gonna happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what's, that's just such a weird timeline for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then to go from, yeah, it's not gonna happen in .5.5 to all the way to December.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it's just, it doesn't register like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It really seems like there's a lot of the game that's incomplete for them to not have all these dots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I get that like if things don't get ready in time, but it's happening a lot and a lot and a lot and so I feel really bad for the team because they're super stoked they're so excited but then like I don't know what it looks like for the team that's actually working on it, but like to as a fan almost nothing was announced except for a date.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for me, because I hadn't known about the game's calm announcement, the data announced Pui2 coming to 1.0 in December, it made sense to me at first because I was like the first part of it was this excitement about when Pui2's full launch is going to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like that to me was I was like oh that's cool like December 11 sweet I didn't it seemed weird to me that they were so nonchalant about it but I thought that was great okay cool we knew now I know the date because we had guessed December something early December was gonna be the dates uh but it was a bit disheartening to go like well so we're getting just a ritual event which I don't care it's been fact I watched the release and this is one of the hard parts about playing two different games

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[SPEAKER_00]: I sometimes forget what's POE1 and what's POE2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was watching it and I'm going, I am sure that I have played ritual in POE2 and then I'm literally watching them and in my head I'm going, I can't be what it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It took me a long time to realize like, no, no, no, POE2 has had ritual.

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[SPEAKER_00]: literally since the very early days so to have it it took me a minute to realize like this is just their changing how rituals gonna work which is cool like i don't and just for the event too right like there was a few times where i'm like a rubber right this isn't a league they're not like actually changing ritual they're just this is leagues this is just like an event

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it, I don't know if that's true because a ritual always weirded me out in its current form because it was always unique items.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas in P we won, that's not the case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't always unique items that you were picking from in a ritual.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that what it is in path to always unique?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's been always unique, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh man, now I might be wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just was a bit...

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[SPEAKER_00]: Idiot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I need somebody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was just unique, because I remember, well, maybe I'm wrong, but anyway, it wasn't new, and so I thought, okay, well, what, you know, like, how else is this tying into the rest of it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I really, I mean, you know, I've talked about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would just want to see some balances, like, let's see them.

58:51.726 --> 58:53.847
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't even mean balance, like, even things out.

58:53.887 --> 58:54.647
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not what I'm saying.

58:54.707 --> 58:56.868
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, balance, like, let me try more stuff.

58:57.428 --> 59:13.249
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me feel like there's a need for me to try new skills, to try new items like I don't need everything to be even keel and it's all the same, but just bring up the power of some stuff, make me excited to try some of the skills that I previously not wanted to try or some new based of just whatever.

59:13.810 --> 59:17.393
[SPEAKER_00]: like, do anything on the balance side would have been nice.

59:17.893 --> 59:20.956
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a little bit weird to say, no, we're not doing any of it.

59:21.096 --> 59:24.639
[SPEAKER_00]: And then when I read afterwards, because I was trying to figure out, like, why would they do this?

59:24.659 --> 59:25.640
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what's the reasoning?

59:25.680 --> 59:39.811
[SPEAKER_00]: And apparently in the Q&A, it was asked or talked about, and there was some this conversation about how it ties into the 1.0, and that they couldn't commit certain changes because of how that will affect in 1.0, which maybe I don't understand any of it, and that's completely fair.

59:39.851 --> 59:41.592
[SPEAKER_00]: If that's what they're saying, like, this is the reason.

59:42.571 --> 59:45.892
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but they should have known that at some point.

59:45.972 --> 59:48.072
[SPEAKER_01]: And you don't like, they didn't need to do this.

59:48.092 --> 59:52.253
[SPEAKER_00]: Discover that in the past week, you want to know, it would have been further than a week.

59:52.273 --> 01:00:00.575
[SPEAKER_00]: But what I'm saying is the dualist has been in development for clearly more than the time since they said the .5.5 will be a balance patch.

01:00:00.635 --> 01:00:01.195
[SPEAKER_00]: They said it.

01:00:01.275 --> 01:00:02.216
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not making that up.

01:00:02.256 --> 01:00:03.276
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's what they said.

01:00:03.356 --> 01:00:07.397
[SPEAKER_00]: This .5.5 patch was going to be was a big balance overhaul.

01:00:07.937 --> 01:00:11.198
[SPEAKER_00]: So you knew the dualist was already in the works and swords were in the works.

01:00:12.918 --> 01:00:14.339
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the duelist in swords.

01:00:14.439 --> 01:00:15.160
[SPEAKER_00]: I got to be honest.

01:00:15.540 --> 01:00:16.981
[SPEAKER_00]: I their ideas are crazy.

01:00:17.001 --> 01:00:19.603
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're phenomenally bright The stuff they come up with is nuts.

01:00:19.923 --> 01:00:20.583
[SPEAKER_00]: That duelist.

01:00:20.623 --> 01:00:23.185
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just like No, thank you first off.

01:00:23.205 --> 01:00:28.888
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I might play it because I have controller, but if I was playing keyboard and mouse Not a chance.

01:00:29.109 --> 01:00:36.493
[SPEAKER_00]: There are so many like a poor Jonathan like I know that he said this is favorite one He's ever created and listening to him discuss and talk about it.

01:00:36.593 --> 01:00:38.415
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like super excited

01:00:42.357 --> 01:00:45.600
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, he's like, you know, he's exactly where this stands.

01:00:45.640 --> 01:00:49.004
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you load up pull back fire this move this change dance.

01:00:49.044 --> 01:00:51.907
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, what the right right.

01:00:51.927 --> 01:00:56.311
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember when we were talking to him in Seattle and it was kind of like, you know, he's tired, right?

01:00:56.331 --> 01:00:57.492
[SPEAKER_01]: He's gone through the motions.

01:00:57.552 --> 01:01:01.636
[SPEAKER_01]: No criticism said all like, you know, he's gone through a lot, but then you get on that one subject.

01:01:02.397 --> 01:01:05.759
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, of something and he's like, booooooh, yeah, some of his very son, right.

01:01:05.939 --> 01:01:08.300
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was what this was like, and it was really cool.

01:01:08.381 --> 01:01:10.822
[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's it's it's really exciting and looking forward to it.

01:01:11.462 --> 01:01:13.123
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to know the ascendancy's ready.

01:01:13.443 --> 01:01:14.164
[SPEAKER_01]: They'd had pictures.

01:01:14.184 --> 01:01:16.545
[SPEAKER_00]: Did they say ascendancy's wouldn't even be out for one point.

01:01:16.605 --> 01:01:18.126
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they, well, okay.

01:01:18.146 --> 01:01:24.670
[SPEAKER_01]: So now we're getting into like, I think if we start getting into that conversation or getting a little too picky with I don't want to be picky about

01:01:24.710 --> 01:01:49.775
[SPEAKER_01]: There were no exactly but so for this he's like here's some screenshots like some teasers of what it's gonna be like okay They didn't tease any and so I think they were and I Maybe they just don't want to get too negative on that because they only showed the clip parts of two ascendancies, but they're like this is how powerful and Like convoluted exciting and intertwined this class can be and that's with

01:01:50.095 --> 01:01:51.436
[SPEAKER_01]: without decency.

01:01:51.456 --> 01:01:56.018
[SPEAKER_01]: So don't think that they're not ready with decencies or they're not like really wrong to it.

01:01:56.258 --> 01:02:00.180
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't get the impression that they are.

01:02:01.314 --> 01:02:21.999
[SPEAKER_01]: going to have all the classes available and all these sentences we already know they want all the classes right but i have a problem with that for two reasons one my personal opinion is it's not a release if the base like so i sent you an article that i think is really well and objectively written no it's okay but it's it's it's it falls in

01:02:26.680 --> 01:02:31.105
[SPEAKER_01]: your car is not finished unless the whole car is finished, right?

01:02:31.145 --> 01:02:41.655
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you don't have the seats ready or if you don't have the tires ready, okay, that's nice that you got the building blocks there, but still the user needs to be able to do the entire experience with the vehicle, right?

01:02:41.836 --> 01:02:43.637
[SPEAKER_01]: Airbags are coming, don't you worry?

01:02:43.798 --> 01:02:45.900
[SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, that's part of the release too.

01:02:46.480 --> 01:03:01.910
[SPEAKER_01]: So I have a problem with their definition of the full release and so this article talks about that and it touches on that But it also argues GG's perspective and it talks a bit about both sides of what what an official release should be like is point what was 1.0

01:03:04.040 --> 01:03:06.582
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, what should be people's expectations on it?

01:03:06.622 --> 01:03:12.388
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's, you know, the definition versus GGG's definition.

01:03:12.648 --> 01:03:14.490
[SPEAKER_01]: And so it was a really cool article to read.

01:03:14.750 --> 01:03:18.633
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, for people that have listened to us for more than 30 seconds, know that.

01:03:19.614 --> 01:03:30.363
[SPEAKER_01]: My opinion is you're not fully released until you've actually come out with all the classes and ascendancies that everything that's on the tree is actually interactable in the game.

01:03:30.503 --> 01:03:31.684
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my personal opinion.

01:03:31.704 --> 01:03:41.292
[SPEAKER_01]: Now that aside, GGG's website after they announced December 11th says full release December 11th.

01:03:42.513 --> 01:03:53.495
[SPEAKER_01]: That has a definition, like when we're driving around our town, there are black and white signs with numbers on them that say 50, I don't know, KMA, you're wearing a good kilometers per hour, right?

01:03:53.655 --> 01:03:56.236
[SPEAKER_01]: It says 50, and the word above is maximum.

01:03:57.076 --> 01:04:03.037
[SPEAKER_01]: Maximum is not a gray definition, like you cannot like min max that.

01:04:03.197 --> 01:04:06.798
[SPEAKER_01]: And oh, well, actually maximum actually means like it has

01:04:13.204 --> 01:04:19.552
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they are saying, full release, December 11th, and they're not gonna have all these sentences.

01:04:19.733 --> 01:04:21.475
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not gonna have all the weapon-based types.

01:04:21.775 --> 01:04:22.376
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they will.

01:04:22.737 --> 01:04:24.639
[SPEAKER_01]: They actually technically haven't touched on that.

01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:26.842
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about old comments.

01:04:27.902 --> 01:04:32.745
[SPEAKER_01]: But nothing that they're doing, especially when you're saying, oh shoot, it's not ready now.

01:04:32.965 --> 01:04:35.967
[SPEAKER_01]: It's coming out for the full release in three months.

01:04:36.387 --> 01:04:37.928
[SPEAKER_01]: And they don't have all the ascendancies.

01:04:37.948 --> 01:04:41.470
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't have all the class that they don't have all the base types.

01:04:42.251 --> 01:04:49.915
[SPEAKER_01]: It really doesn't give you the impression that all those ascendancies and base types are going to be available for December 11th.

01:04:51.236 --> 01:05:00.757
[SPEAKER_01]: But to me, when you use the word, and this is being picky, but the words have definitions, full release, full means right to the top.

01:05:01.577 --> 01:05:04.940
[SPEAKER_00]: But foaming the argument against, I could be up to what they have.

01:05:05.861 --> 01:05:08.463
[SPEAKER_00]: So you could argue that a full release is up to what they have.

01:05:08.483 --> 01:05:15.909
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was actually thinking as you were talking about it, because had they not put it out on their website of all what the classes will be in the end?

01:05:16.430 --> 01:05:22.595
[SPEAKER_00]: It would be harder to argue that they're not coming out of the full release, because we wouldn't know what classes they're still going to last later on.

01:05:22.615 --> 01:05:24.617
[SPEAKER_00]: Because the hanging intro has them.

01:05:25.017 --> 01:05:28.258
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I'm just saying it's the game to didn't have to have that stuff.

01:05:29.038 --> 01:05:34.280
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying, like if you don't have that in the game, if you don't have that in the game.

01:05:34.660 --> 01:05:34.820
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:36.360
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just completely void.

01:05:36.821 --> 01:05:37.001
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:05:37.801 --> 01:05:38.081
[SPEAKER_01]: Fine.

01:05:38.441 --> 01:05:39.261
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, come on.

01:05:39.281 --> 01:05:41.142
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they come out with a new class there.

01:05:41.282 --> 01:05:42.262
[SPEAKER_01]: They do have.

01:05:42.342 --> 01:05:42.882
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that.

01:05:43.103 --> 01:05:43.763
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yeah.

01:05:43.803 --> 01:05:45.803
[SPEAKER_00]: My question was, would it have been different?

01:05:45.823 --> 01:05:46.964
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I was trying to get to.

01:05:47.324 --> 01:05:48.444
[SPEAKER_00]: Was, would it have been different?

01:05:48.544 --> 01:05:49.985
[SPEAKER_00]: Had they not told us that?

01:05:50.485 --> 01:05:50.945
[SPEAKER_00]: Hang on.

01:05:51.325 --> 01:05:53.307
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think I don't wear your coming from.

01:05:53.448 --> 01:05:57.592
[SPEAKER_00]: I can understand the argument of full being just this is what they have up to that's coming out.

01:05:57.672 --> 01:05:59.354
[SPEAKER_00]: I think full release is being a bit

01:06:00.819 --> 01:06:11.707
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're scurrying the line there because it's pretty clear we're not a full game yet we're not even, you know, the for me how not having all classes is probably the biggest miss.

01:06:11.927 --> 01:06:23.655
[SPEAKER_00]: I that one I'm a bit sad about because those are pretty major things I can get over the ascendancy because they could have easily just gone with we're sticking with two ascendancies per class for now and tried to fill out more of them.

01:06:23.975 --> 01:06:25.897
[SPEAKER_01]: If you get rid of all that stuff,

01:06:26.597 --> 01:06:48.596
[SPEAKER_01]: you can like because according to that definition right now you could full releases right now if it's just whatever we have and now we have the full game we're fully released right now right how they've communicated to the user in game full means one thing all those blank spots are full

01:06:49.824 --> 01:07:09.920
[SPEAKER_01]: when you're in the school screen in PC, I don't know if it's still like this, but I remember when I was seeing Aaron play on PC, there were blank spots on the skill screen for skills that were missing or these skills will eventually come through the beta when you're doing, I don't know if it's still there anymore, it never was like that on controller support.

01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:12.481
[SPEAKER_01]: or unconsol.

01:07:12.521 --> 01:07:20.963
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just one of those things where full has a definition and you've provided blank spots that need to be full or that still need to be filled.

01:07:20.983 --> 01:07:22.684
[SPEAKER_01]: They're currently empty in the game.

01:07:22.764 --> 01:07:34.527
[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully either and not really fair to the user but hopefully either those blank spots get removed so that players just coming in aren't deceived by that but

01:07:35.832 --> 01:07:43.521
[SPEAKER_01]: I am looking really looking forward to the game, but at the end of the day, this whole week was all we got was a December 11th of release day and nothing else.

01:07:44.482 --> 01:07:50.889
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and by the way, there's going to be a ritual event, but nothing else was actually an announcement.

01:07:52.230 --> 01:07:56.996
[SPEAKER_01]: It was such a... We know a duelist is coming, we don't care when, we know sorts are coming, we don't care when.

01:07:57.982 --> 01:08:03.106
[SPEAKER_00]: It was such a weird time to do a league reset too because you're not getting any new information.

01:08:03.126 --> 01:08:14.535
[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing new to be garnered right now by running a league reset and less they're doing something in the background that they're not telling players about that maybe are changing like mobs or drops or something.

01:08:14.555 --> 01:08:18.638
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really know, but the league reset doesn't actually totally make sense for just the ritual event.

01:08:19.298 --> 01:08:19.499
[SPEAKER_00]: So.

01:08:20.379 --> 01:08:26.226
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's tough for me to get back into it because I was excited for the 0.5.5, once I was like sweet, privately it's gonna end.

01:08:26.706 --> 01:08:27.467
[SPEAKER_00]: Go roll into that.

01:08:27.587 --> 01:08:30.591
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe there's a 3.3 because they talked about another POE one league.

01:08:31.051 --> 01:08:36.117
[SPEAKER_00]: But can you imagine if the POE one league of 3.3 is part of the reason why they didn't have enough manpower to complete the

01:08:37.085 --> 01:08:39.927
[SPEAKER_00]: the balance pass like because we don't know all those details is tough.

01:08:39.947 --> 01:08:41.988
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I'm just being a bit of a turd with that one.

01:08:42.169 --> 01:08:49.714
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not being a turd because this isn't the first time they've underestimated the amount of content they've wanted to release or intended to release.

01:08:49.774 --> 01:08:51.135
[SPEAKER_01]: These are their own timelines.

01:08:51.175 --> 01:08:53.136
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody cares when they come out with their announcements.

01:08:54.617 --> 01:08:54.857
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

01:08:55.038 --> 01:08:59.541
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you didn't have a POV 2 announcement until you were talking about 1.0 in December,

01:09:00.041 --> 01:09:00.301
[SPEAKER_01]: Great.

01:09:00.501 --> 01:09:01.181
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody cared.

01:09:01.301 --> 01:09:02.622
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody was expecting anything.

01:09:03.022 --> 01:09:04.323
[SPEAKER_01]: Throw the ones that came out with it.

01:09:05.003 --> 01:09:05.603
[SPEAKER_01]: So do the stuff.

01:09:06.163 --> 01:09:07.804
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that's the problem.

01:09:07.904 --> 01:09:11.505
[SPEAKER_01]: It is especially in this just short 18-month period.

01:09:12.105 --> 01:09:14.546
[SPEAKER_01]: It is turning into more frequently.

01:09:15.066 --> 01:09:16.307
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not doing.

01:09:17.167 --> 01:09:27.393
[SPEAKER_01]: What we're telling you we were hoping and expecting to do our announcements more and more mean less and less And I feel so bad for the employees there because they're just working hard.

01:09:27.413 --> 01:09:34.497
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just doing their thing They're super stoked and then they don't realize or but I don't know what's community gate to the company or not But like you're working hard.

01:09:34.517 --> 01:09:35.198
[SPEAKER_01]: You're super stoked.

01:09:35.218 --> 01:09:40.521
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't wait for people to be stoked about your product and then it's like actually nothing was announced

01:09:41.783 --> 01:09:44.565
[SPEAKER_00]: I was reading a comment, and I thought it was interesting.

01:09:44.605 --> 01:09:53.811
[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody commented, I think it was on Reddit, when I was trying to read through the comment, I wanted to know what had happened in this Q&A, but they had talked about this change or whatever.

01:09:53.952 --> 01:10:01.737
[SPEAKER_00]: And somebody made a really good comment where they said, you know, we're one of the things that we've talked about, we've discussed everybody really in the comments.

01:10:01.837 --> 01:10:08.483
[SPEAKER_00]: POE community knows that one of their GG's strongest qualities is their ability to communicate.

01:10:08.503 --> 01:10:14.829
[SPEAKER_00]: There are, there is no other developer that I'm aware of, the development that communicates so well with its community.

01:10:14.869 --> 01:10:17.351
[SPEAKER_00]: That's, you know, like, it just doesn't exist.

01:10:17.371 --> 01:10:18.712
[SPEAKER_00]: We're linked to the open.

01:10:18.732 --> 01:10:19.233
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

01:10:19.733 --> 01:10:40.727
[SPEAKER_00]: And the person said, the tough thing is I'm paraphrasing, I don't know exactly how it was worded, but the idea was would you rather have a group of nerdy developers who are excited about their game that talk and run their mouth when sometimes they shouldn't versus a group of people who are shut down, don't want to tell you anything and they'll just give you what they want to give you when they want to give it to you.

01:10:41.127 --> 01:10:47.652
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's an odd bad comment because there is a big benefit to having people who are developing your game that are so excited about the game.

01:10:48.732 --> 01:10:56.879
[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing that's tough for grinding your games is they have always notoriously had these awesome nerdy people who will run their mouth.

01:10:57.439 --> 01:10:58.160
[SPEAKER_00]: And they get excited.

01:10:58.180 --> 01:10:59.921
[SPEAKER_00]: We joke about this back in Chris's day.

01:11:00.542 --> 01:11:06.006
[SPEAKER_00]: They get excited, they say something, and you know someone on the team is like, ah, don't do that, like, yeah.

01:11:06.386 --> 01:11:10.550
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think that that's bad, but I can't have came with control back then.

01:11:10.930 --> 01:11:12.353
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, it's out of control.

01:11:12.413 --> 01:11:13.074
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it did.

01:11:13.094 --> 01:11:14.396
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, well, no, like, sure.

01:11:14.456 --> 01:11:16.880
[SPEAKER_01]: People were saying things, but that stuff happened.

01:11:17.061 --> 01:11:20.647
[SPEAKER_01]: We're at the point now where you can't get excited about stuff.

01:11:21.368 --> 01:11:22.410
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just not going to happen.

01:11:24.495 --> 01:11:39.091
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I told the agree with the comment and I love the cup half full comment, but there does come a point where words have to matter So if you're talking about the past run your mouth about stuff for not supposed to know awesome, but if you're talking about the future That's what they always did though.

01:11:39.171 --> 01:11:41.313
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was Chris's thing always back in the day.

01:11:41.814 --> 01:11:42.735
[SPEAKER_00]: He would give a date.

01:11:42.795 --> 01:11:43.396
[SPEAKER_00]: He'd say it.

01:11:43.716 --> 01:11:43.836
[SPEAKER_00]: No

01:11:44.697 --> 01:11:55.564
[SPEAKER_00]: No, he would say a date, they'd pick a date or they'd tell us something that was coming and then we wouldn't get it, or the date would be pushed back, or they would underestimate it as existed for GG for a long time.

01:11:55.584 --> 01:11:55.765
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:11:56.065 --> 01:11:58.546
[SPEAKER_00]: If that's what you're talking about then yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

01:11:58.907 --> 01:12:01.208
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think it's uncommon what we're going through.

01:12:01.288 --> 01:12:04.851
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's problematic though because it's become so common.

01:12:04.991 --> 01:12:06.672
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of just your...

01:12:07.152 --> 01:12:14.663
[SPEAKER_00]: Boy, who probably I still get excited when they say stuff and I'm still even though I know that there's a chance that what they said might not happen I still get excited.

01:12:14.683 --> 01:12:18.990
[SPEAKER_00]: I just I don't I don't think that that's changed for me but

01:12:20.496 --> 01:12:29.983
[SPEAKER_00]: I did watch this video a bit confused after it ended, because I was like, what, what, I don't know, I don't actually know what we're doing.

01:12:30.423 --> 01:12:32.465
[SPEAKER_00]: What am I coming back to 0.5.5 for?

01:12:32.585 --> 01:12:34.306
[SPEAKER_00]: It cannot be just ritual surely.

01:12:34.767 --> 01:12:35.687
[SPEAKER_00]: There's got to be something else.

01:12:35.928 --> 01:12:40.091
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt bad, like, obviously it falls on as far as I know.

01:12:40.131 --> 01:12:43.313
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't actually know, but it falls on Jonathan and Mark.

01:12:43.653 --> 01:12:48.517
[SPEAKER_01]: But I felt bad for them because as they're recording the video, I just get this impression that they're like,

01:12:50.160 --> 01:12:53.023
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, we're really trying to hype people up about nothing here.

01:12:53.183 --> 01:12:56.946
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they know, like, they came out with the decision to have the announcement.

01:12:57.006 --> 01:12:59.508
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they, they publish, okay, we're having an announcement.

01:12:59.528 --> 01:13:03.351
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the times come for the announcement, they're like, okay, we're mixing this, this, this, this, and this.

01:13:03.491 --> 01:13:03.911
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like,

01:13:05.152 --> 01:13:06.733
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and that's not all.

01:13:07.493 --> 01:13:09.994
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you really like the pain?

01:13:10.234 --> 01:13:10.974
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:13:10.994 --> 01:13:11.794
[SPEAKER_01]: They want this.

01:13:12.134 --> 01:13:12.735
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:13:13.135 --> 01:13:15.055
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not like trying to trick us.

01:13:15.816 --> 01:13:16.096
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:13:16.136 --> 01:13:20.757
[SPEAKER_01]: So I feel really bad for them because obviously they have their goals and aspirations in their hype.

01:13:21.097 --> 01:13:24.458
[SPEAKER_01]: And like you said, they really want people to be excited about their game.

01:13:24.498 --> 01:13:30.860
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's just really, of course, there just is disappointed as everyone else that the announcement is what it is.

01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:32.401
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I feel bad for them.

01:13:32.781 --> 01:13:33.581
[SPEAKER_01]: really feel bad for them.

01:13:33.601 --> 01:13:35.722
[SPEAKER_01]: And I am still super excited for 1.0.

01:13:36.343 --> 01:13:36.623
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:13:37.123 --> 01:13:37.663
[SPEAKER_01]: I am too.

01:13:37.683 --> 01:13:38.364
[SPEAKER_01]: But I am nervous.

01:13:38.384 --> 01:13:40.405
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm very hesitant towards 1.0.

01:13:40.445 --> 01:13:44.086
[SPEAKER_01]: Like definition of full release aside.

01:13:44.146 --> 01:13:46.487
[SPEAKER_01]: Like everything's coming out then.

01:13:48.048 --> 01:14:09.838
[SPEAKER_01]: Trials of the ancestors like you're third leveling all the different well sure, but I mean eventually like all this stuff is slowly coming out like without the beta experience Like there's a difference between how much you feel comfortable changing in beta versus how much you feel comfortable changing post official launch There is

01:14:10.898 --> 01:14:29.542
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, there's, I mean, that's the, when you, when you have a very skewed definition of what a full launch is, that's the only other definition there is is how much you're willing to change how much is core how much isn't otherwise there's zero difference between a beta and a full launch, if you're already going to blur the line of full.

01:14:30.737 --> 01:14:32.519
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:14:32.599 --> 01:14:33.940
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a little bit confused.

01:14:34.421 --> 01:14:41.628
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's too bad because I think they missed out on three months of probably some pretty decent Q&A testing on whatever these balance changes are.

01:14:41.648 --> 01:14:44.951
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it just makes you nervous to come up with all of that at one point.

01:14:45.331 --> 01:14:47.213
[SPEAKER_00]: And also to come out in one point.

01:14:47.273 --> 01:14:49.475
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, with more than what we've seen.

01:14:49.636 --> 01:14:53.860
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no way that in three months the only additional stuff from now until then is

01:14:55.521 --> 01:14:58.304
[SPEAKER_00]: They're they're not doing balances from now until 1.0 release.

01:14:58.624 --> 01:15:04.110
[SPEAKER_00]: So you're adding on top even more changes and new things that are going to be coming in those three months before the 1.0 release so

01:15:05.308 --> 01:15:29.390
[SPEAKER_00]: yeah i don't it'll be interesting i was excited to learn about the December 11th date because i didn't know that they had already announced it i thought that that was great and the dualists didn't do much for me because all i could hear was press x then dive left double tap down press up in a like to seem too convoluted for my brain even though looked amazing like it looked really really cool and i'm excited to have swords in the game i really want access in the game but um

01:15:29.990 --> 01:15:33.832
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the skills they were showing made it look like deck-based ones.

01:15:34.192 --> 01:15:36.833
[SPEAKER_01]: Just look like spells all over the place Right, it was all like magic.

01:15:36.973 --> 01:15:37.853
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a cyclone.

01:15:37.913 --> 01:15:38.554
[SPEAKER_01]: It was so cool.

01:15:38.794 --> 01:15:49.458
[SPEAKER_01]: Cyclone look cool and I love the animation of Yeah, and it was like just the year spending like your ballerino and your tippy toes It actually looked like the character of Steven and go in and

01:15:50.018 --> 01:15:52.460
[SPEAKER_01]: Another thing I really, really liked was the music.

01:15:52.540 --> 01:15:54.441
[SPEAKER_01]: What, what music wasn't?

01:15:54.501 --> 01:15:55.381
[SPEAKER_01]: Music's always good.

01:15:55.481 --> 01:16:02.726
[SPEAKER_01]: They were fighting, well, but it was a modified version of path of a path one track.

01:16:03.486 --> 01:16:05.587
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, from like the arena and stuff like that.

01:16:05.807 --> 01:16:09.430
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just really cool to hear those familiar themes.

01:16:09.850 --> 01:16:10.110
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:16:10.950 --> 01:16:13.772
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, they're like, it's just, you know, it's a little different, right?

01:16:13.792 --> 01:16:15.773
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what going through, like, and I like the idea,

01:16:18.955 --> 01:16:19.675
[SPEAKER_01]: at the arena.

01:16:20.096 --> 01:16:22.177
[SPEAKER_01]: I think is an awesome idea for an act.

01:16:22.197 --> 01:16:25.878
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully it does monopolize an entire act.

01:16:25.898 --> 01:16:26.919
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that would be really cool.

01:16:28.600 --> 01:16:30.301
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to the Excel console.

01:16:30.321 --> 01:16:36.744
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to have to try to do list out when you're there because that's the only time we'll know anything about it for it.

01:16:36.824 --> 01:16:41.346
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but if you go there and try to play a zombie, I'm going to lose my mind.

01:16:41.766 --> 01:16:42.206
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right.

01:16:42.527 --> 01:16:44.028
[SPEAKER_01]: I go there plays on zombies.

01:16:44.088 --> 01:16:45.549
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still 10 minions.

01:16:45.949 --> 01:16:47.370
[SPEAKER_01]: WT yet.

01:16:47.670 --> 01:16:54.415
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm really excited for that And I'm I'm looking forward to seeing what else of course they have available then I'm gonna November's quite a ways away.

01:16:54.435 --> 01:16:55.075
[SPEAKER_01]: Still with her.

01:16:55.516 --> 01:16:57.157
[SPEAKER_01]: Huck and everything to one point.

01:16:57.257 --> 01:16:58.298
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's fine

01:16:59.078 --> 01:17:18.006
[SPEAKER_01]: like again these aren't like criticisms to their timings it's more like I guess the only thing it's like it's funny announcements you know what I mean like well there are my criticism tiny bit to their their their timing because stop giving me timing stop well yeah everything they do this like I hope

01:17:18.904 --> 01:17:23.705
[SPEAKER_00]: that they have sorted everything out for December 11th, because you cannot push that date.

01:17:24.345 --> 01:17:24.565
[SPEAKER_02]: It's true.

01:17:24.605 --> 01:17:26.146
[SPEAKER_02]: We underestimate it.

01:17:26.246 --> 01:17:27.626
[SPEAKER_02]: How much time it did.

01:17:27.686 --> 01:17:30.447
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you did, if it didn't work, you can't push it a week.

01:17:31.047 --> 01:17:34.448
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you can't get much closer than December 11th, the Christmas for a release.

01:17:34.988 --> 01:17:38.209
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, we went through one, I don't even remember what League it was.

01:17:38.269 --> 01:17:45.551
[SPEAKER_00]: But I remember it was a long time ago and it was a really, really terrible timing for a badly ran into Christmas and it did knock a wall for them.

01:17:45.651 --> 01:17:46.171
[SPEAKER_00]: It was sucked.

01:17:46.411 --> 01:17:49.312
[SPEAKER_00]: It's sucked because of the pressure put on their staff.

01:17:49.653 --> 01:17:53.715
[SPEAKER_00]: I really hope that that's not going to happen with a 1.0 release two weeks before Christmas.

01:17:54.815 --> 01:18:04.640
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, yeah, look at, yeah, I think Exile Khan's going to be awesome because even if they do end up pushing all their content to 1.0,

01:18:05.800 --> 01:18:07.341
[SPEAKER_01]: You're a month away at that point.

01:18:07.382 --> 01:18:28.219
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's current XL con and they're going to I mean fingers crossed have a really good idea of what they're hoping for with their expecting What they're pushing back post launch all that kind of stuff like I think it's going to be nerve wracking because you're so close to the release, but I I really hope and I would assume at that point they have a really good idea

01:18:29.640 --> 01:18:40.903
[SPEAKER_01]: of what is going to be in the launch, and then a few things they're pushing to try and rush for launch, but no pressure because the game's not going to be fully released for the full launch anyway, right?

01:18:41.583 --> 01:18:41.763
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:18:42.204 --> 01:18:43.644
[SPEAKER_00]: So I am really excited.

01:18:43.664 --> 01:18:52.046
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be a well organized, just in terms of content, and what they're showing and what they're exemplifying and the things that they're going to

01:18:55.052 --> 01:19:02.649
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, surety about it because at that point, there's not going to be any, like there's no league in between.

01:19:02.669 --> 01:19:04.333
[SPEAKER_01]: You're one month away from launch.

01:19:05.557 --> 01:19:07.497
[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing else in between.

01:19:07.517 --> 01:19:09.818
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no like, oh, can we squeeze this in for this release?

01:19:09.838 --> 01:19:10.478
[SPEAKER_01]: Or can we do this?

01:19:10.538 --> 01:19:12.899
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, is this going to make launch or not?

01:19:13.299 --> 01:19:14.399
[SPEAKER_01]: Shoot, probably not.

01:19:14.699 --> 01:19:16.319
[SPEAKER_01]: Really wanted to, but that's okay.

01:19:17.300 --> 01:19:17.860
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:19:17.900 --> 01:19:26.822
[SPEAKER_01]: I think despite the fact that there's all that pressure for the initial launch, there'll be a different mode of peace and sure, do you around the situation just because there's nothing else in between.

01:19:26.922 --> 01:19:30.203
[SPEAKER_01]: So I am, I'm really looking forward to it from their perspective as well, right?

01:19:30.543 --> 01:19:31.683
[SPEAKER_01]: Last XI I'll come before.

01:19:32.303 --> 01:19:36.567
[SPEAKER_01]: That launched that they mentioned in 2019.

01:19:37.668 --> 01:19:38.609
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's pretty cool.

01:19:39.069 --> 01:19:42.252
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the thing that sucks for me right now is a more excited for 3.30.

01:19:42.272 --> 01:19:43.614
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't even know if it's a real thing.

01:19:44.234 --> 01:19:51.281
[SPEAKER_00]: The PLE1 league that might come in between, like the 0.5.5 doesn't have anything turning me on to wanting to start a new character right now.

01:19:52.021 --> 01:20:02.268
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a bit disappointing, but I actually don't mind that because maybe I'll just chill on PWE2 until 1.0, make 1.0 really exciting, having played it in quite a long time and getting right into it.

01:20:02.288 --> 01:20:07.071
[SPEAKER_00]: But we'll see, maybe something will change, because it doesn't come out in like next week.

01:20:08.302 --> 01:20:08.963
[SPEAKER_00]: 0.5.5.

01:20:08.983 --> 01:20:11.105
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this like leave reset starts like right away.

01:20:11.685 --> 01:20:29.322
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, it's funny when I when my character died last night Of course, I was disappointed because I died to something that I don't think I've ever died to before but the very first thing I did was like I loaded Pwe2 ascendancies on Pwe planner like very first thing I did was like, okay

01:20:30.675 --> 01:20:32.936
[SPEAKER_02]: That sucks, no, what am I thinking about?

01:20:33.116 --> 01:20:34.737
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was straight on the PWE2.

01:20:34.817 --> 01:20:36.638
[SPEAKER_01]: So, well, it's still very much looking forward to it.

01:20:36.658 --> 01:20:39.099
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, I really enjoyed the PL experience.

01:20:39.119 --> 01:20:41.201
[SPEAKER_01]: Much more than the last one that I almost bailed on.

01:20:41.221 --> 01:20:45.003
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was negative, negative net about.

01:20:45.123 --> 01:20:47.564
[SPEAKER_01]: But I enjoyed the process.

01:20:47.604 --> 01:20:48.925
[SPEAKER_01]: I was really excited for my character.

01:20:48.945 --> 01:20:50.626
[SPEAKER_01]: It was fun seeing the community chip chat.

01:20:50.646 --> 01:20:53.167
[SPEAKER_01]: When I noticed the chip chat on 2121, I really enjoyed it.

01:20:53.187 --> 01:20:53.287
[SPEAKER_01]: But,

01:20:55.588 --> 01:21:02.652
[SPEAKER_01]: And the whole time I'm thinking about like, okay, well, like, you know, what about Dodge or what about this or like should I go Smith to Catova again?

01:21:02.772 --> 01:21:16.220
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm I'm just going through my options like I'm not thinking about what I would do if I was to reroll my character in path one I'm thinking about what I was going to be doing in path two to kind of Almost copy the best that I could the experience that I was currently in and I was enjoying it.

01:21:16.320 --> 01:21:16.881
[SPEAKER_00]: I was enjoying it.

01:21:17.001 --> 01:21:17.261
[SPEAKER_00]: Sweet.

01:21:17.861 --> 01:21:18.182
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go.

01:21:18.202 --> 01:21:20.483
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's wrap this up then.

01:21:21.518 --> 01:21:26.640
[SPEAKER_00]: A, A forever XL, 359, I'm just naked eggs, and I'm Tyler record of days.

01:21:26.920 --> 01:21:45.408
[SPEAKER_00]: Patrons will catch you and after dark everybody else, good luck in the rest of our privately, good luck next week if you start with 0.5.5, if you've been for more information on website forever XL.com, we have a very fun discord pop in there, say hello, Patron, otherwise support podcasts everywhere, and we're always in global 2121 in both games, although it not cross compatible in PLE1.

01:21:46.663 --> 01:21:50.062
[SPEAKER_00]: What can you hail your disclaimer at all in a legible format?

01:21:50.705 --> 01:21:50.987
[SPEAKER_00]: See ya!

01:21:51.751 --> 01:21:52.093
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye!