Big SummA BlowAut!

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, come to Forever Axel them just naked tags, and I'm Tyler record of days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No sees?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not yet, it's common though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As soon as you hit the button, it was like, oh, oh, oh, oh, now it's fading.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, episode 358.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Forever Axeld is here, and we're back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a... Poor person, the hair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been, it's been a vacation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, is it 357 though?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, 357 was our, hey, we have an announcement and it's the privately

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're counting that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... man world record in coming that's right six minutes i think that was pretty impressive uh... big show to our patrons thanks everybody who resubbed up uh... over last two weeks patreon gets to access to afterdarks our podcast after the podcast and we just keep going that's a sweet part calm we weren't thanked thank you yeah actually it uh... i was gonna say uh... apparently we weren't thankful last week we're only thankful this week we're not thankful when we're in a hurry

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so this is literally from the Disneyland store in Disneyland, which might not be a big big deal to people in California, but When you're not from there, it's like, wow, cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Back when cars was actually a thing and people cared about that series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Doc Hudson and everything, but nope.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, we're back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't, uh, we haven't actually seen each other talked in a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, how are you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How you been?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's new?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, um, it's coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've been holding this whole time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't you dare.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Trying like it didn't like that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew it was coming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I'd have hey that is the first time A member in my family has ever sneezed once and it was done that doesn't happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's normally like five or six Okay, and it was one of those stereotypical memes where the roof falls off so we close up But no, we're good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't we just just had a crazy summer

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our private league started today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, private league started.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, even though it started that ADM and we're recording later than we normally were recording the day, I haven't had a chance to touch it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't even get a chance to play because you know, we were visiting my in-laws.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I forget if I've said we're there or not, but we were in the interior desert land and man, like it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome to see them, of course, but we go for three full days, typically, that's kind of like our magic number, where it's like nobody hates each other at the end, but we're getting there, and so that's kind of three full days, so four nights, and we go in the kids, kids love it, because they live, like there's a pool there, and there's a beach, and all that cool stuff, I shared a picture on, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: on discord a boat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because we went earlier for my mother-in-law's 70th birthday just last month.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was a surprise thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Normally we wouldn't go twice in the summer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just because it's a lot of work to go, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's expensive for them to host.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we went for her 70th and it was relatively clear the forest fires and the province hadn't started or hadn't accumulated yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it nice picture of just the mountains then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then now you can't even see them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like we couldn't realize as that was the comparison from just recent I thought maybe that was like a last year's photo or something No, it was just a month ago to this one and either way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just the difference between clear and not clear, but like to not be able to see a mountain that's Across the lake like it was it was crazy and it's not and that valley like you can see the layers of mountains where you are on that part of the lake and it's just

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you couldn't see smoke sprays, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, as we were driving through Manning, the fires were so close that they actually had cones for traffic too slow intentionally down to half the speed with warning signs saying, like, hey, get ready for you turns, sorry about this and, you know, warning where the, the detours were because, yeah, they were getting really close and we even saw some of the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Infant fires getting started on the way back where you can see the flames Yep, but the smoke was getting pretty thick in certain parts, and they were like, oh my, you know, few hundred feet from the highway So you can see it really clearly, but it was great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Went to the beach lots went to the pool lots and The some days we had to call it short because the air quality was just too bad

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those that live in the area know what that's about, but yeah, so it was awesome visit, but it was smokey smokey fire ends weird, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you don't want to complain about like smoke impacting you from the fire, because half the problem seems like it's in like on the verge of being evacuated, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it is still the case, it can be tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is, it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, kids had an awesome time and we actually bought them both new bikes yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sort of kind of out of nowhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My daughter's always needed a new bike and she's needed a new bike since we realized it at around Christmas time, but we're not going to buy our new bike at Christmas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And because that's kind of one of those things like we're going to get it for her anyway, so it's kind of like a ripoff if you get it for Christmas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so anyway, we've been waiting just for her to be interested in bikes again, like what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did she want to buy school?

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[SPEAKER_01]: She wanted to do this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, and then she finally wanted to kind of around the end of

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[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't bother and then so it was like okay yet time time to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so big before school.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's let's go get you that bike like the on Bikes are in stock, but it's no longer like when they're all gonna be out of stock kind of thing because it's the end of summer And then my son's like I need new bike.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like no, he don't he's like yeah, when he's like hitting my chin on my bike And so I get him to go inside and do some laps around the call the second I'm like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, damn it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I think there is a switch up in this bike.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just got it wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a gross spirit that we didn't notice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of his buddies is much taller than him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of his buddies is much taller than him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So instead of donating their clothes elsewhere, they just give all of his clothes to us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when Oliver gets it, yeah, they're all awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got one set of his grandparents or quite frivolous and rich.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they just huck some sweet clothes out of him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, Oliver gets them and they still look at their little two big form, but they still suit them like they don't look too big, but they are and so by the time they're getting too small, like we just don't see the gross burp because we don't see those clothes, we don't like, we're not, you know, going out and spending 15 bucks a shirt or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So,

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[SPEAKER_01]: his growth spurt so it surprised us so we ended up getting two new bikes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, but they're both at that stage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you ever see those kids riding a bike and it's like the parents just like, I don't care if you're three and a half years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's your adult bike and you're just going to get used to riding it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're like riding and they're like, can't, no, no whole puttouch in the seat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sort of kind of did that with the kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not really.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I'm tired of this man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We spent 100 years on, just like, just roll again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we bought them both bikes that are just a stage out, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're using their tippy toes pretty good, so it's fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If that would get summer, now it's time for my vacation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, where's that to which up?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just when my wife goes back to work and my kids go back to school.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my wish coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, yeah, we're only like two, three weeks away two weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but we haven't done any school stuff yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Both my kids are in middle school.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we actually just got them like seriously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're trying to save money for a trip coming up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean you gotta go back to school.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, but now all of her he needs a laptop for school and I'm like, oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, we go when we do that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we're homin' and haunt about like Should they have cell phones at this age and shouldn't they not you can't compare to the way things were in the other way the things are but blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we've done well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've had a wave as your summer than we wanted to, went to play land the other day at night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, fush.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, how'd you head do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, hey people, if you want Path of Exile talk this week, it's not going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, just not having talk for two weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we've like we've both been gone, which is why we didn't have an episode last week, so it's not like we've been playing Path of Exile.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you for tuning in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you would like yours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wheat sweet updates on I don't know whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's one thing that happened in GD We are gonna talk top of you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's gonna be epic Stay tuned because after these messages It's gonna be great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, um, so we went to playland that was on my daughter's list for things to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We could afford oh I stood there and it was still horrible like I had a great time the kids were awesome, but we did very much We saved 80 bucks by doing the evening pass

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the lamps are still brutal, so it's like they go on five rides and four hours, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But my wife, like she didn't get to do the rides that she really wanted to do except for one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's that wooden roller coaster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, it's been there forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you know what I didn't realize that it's...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I knew that they'd like restored it, but not with metal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've kept it going with as much wood as possible because it's just a purely wooden roller coaster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what I didn't realize is how epic it actually is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that wooden roller coaster at Playland in Vancouver for any roller coaster enthusiast listening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Apparently, it's like a massive landmark and in roller coaster land, like if you're a roller coaster enthusiast, it's high on the checklist.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you gotta do it because it was made way back before you used it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but it's all momentum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only mechanism used is to get you up that initial hill after that, it's just pure momentum and gravity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was thinking about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, they're bragging about that on the side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I'm just as impressed as everyone else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, thank you for the first time I'm like looking around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, wow, look at this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm thinking about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, so if you're a math whiz, you can do that no problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if the roller coaster itself is a static weight, if it's the same weight, okay, I can figure out the addition and how all this works and like, okay, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when you have like, I don't know what the original cards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're like in how many people are on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you have a discrepancy of like 3,000 pounds, that's impressive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To still make it fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To still make it do all these crazy things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you have like a variance of, you could have a whole bunch of light weights.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could have a whole bunch of tubs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like that's that so to me that was really cool when i started thinking about the varian so you go on comedy no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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[SPEAKER_01]: right and I'm like okay I could just close my eyes and enjoy the like super fast air remind me of like riding my motorbike back and it would be ten times as fast and so I'm like yeah I could do that let's do that but my daughter really want to go on the fairs wheel just yeah yeah it took us like an hour to do that and but as I'm up there

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never been had a problem with heights.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what's happening to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, I'm up there and we're going on the first wheel and like this is not a high ferris wheel at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like any of these epic ones that you see in the series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a regular small ferris wheel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm sorry, you're 10 feet off the ground.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm like, whoa, no, I'm getting tingly already.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I look in like the spinny thing that I wanted to go on is like 10 times higher and I'm like, oh, not going on that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's all I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: stuck around watching the kids run around and the kids did everything else and they're out of nature they can run around and do their own thing so it was really nice cool what's on that anyway uh that's being a nutshell thank you for listening uh and thank you for stopping by today that was really cool of you to donate once again to the Tyler household nope that's not my donation that was yours we ordered it for you that's exactly what we did now thank you I really appreciate it that's very kind and you never seen my dog before

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, not in person, and I think the camera, like, subtract 700 pounds from your dog because that dog is way bigger in person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he didn't seem obedient, but he's actually is finally well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was not expecting me to do that big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've actually taken him to a puppy daycare the few times, because for him to be boarded for two weeks for the trip that we have coming up November.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, he, they have to have like a trial period just to make sure he's not like to think you listen to that ahead of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty smart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so anyway there's like a weird but there's like a one hour like trial period that's free but they like okay like let's make sure you're not going to waste your money here and apparently he passed that with flying colors like he has like he's overly aggressive with meek dogs he does not know when to stop but he passed with flying colors they loved him and so then they say okay you got to come back a few more times

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... just paid half days kind of thing just to make sure that that wasn't a fluke off right and so you know the classes from ninety bucks and total but spitting it it's been so fun to see him like and he's been great nice i mean they separate they don't have all the dogs in the same mission oh my goodness i can't talk man they uh... they don't have all the dogs in the same mishmash like they'll have the really small ones in the early and one side and

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[SPEAKER_01]: all the other idiots on another side and he does great with the idiots, so that's right, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's doing really well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's done well with camping, he's done well with new people's houses, like saying my endless place, and yeah, he's been very impressive for us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's needed very little training outside of how he interacts with dogs and people, so it's been good, awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have had a busy couple weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we didn't allow you to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So because of me, so that one was my fault.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I have been good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is the right word fault.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did a surprise cruise for my mom for her 70th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not surprised to anyone but her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's been a long time in the works.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a cruise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was a banana cruise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, so this is the first time doing a cruise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was in a last in cruise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was also like Christina and I have never actually even vacationed anywhere that's all inclusive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've always anywhere we've ever gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to pay for your own food.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess you have it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I keep thinking of like, you know, Ryan's escaped.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we've never been doing all these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this was the first foray into both of those things for us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, well, it's also not the same version of an on-clusive because we did not pay for the drink package because, oh, I just had to be hammered and I was going with my family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, for you, make up how much you pay in each day?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, it was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Alaska.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was four, four, five ports.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we stopped in Sikka, Juno, Kachiken, and then Prince Rupert.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think those were the four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pears in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: really.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, and it was mouthful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, so Alaska, first of Alaska is beautiful, but when you, when you live in, like, the Pacific, like where we live, it's like, no, it's, it's like Victoria Island, like it's like Vancouver Island, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just a beautiful amount in its trees, but we were talking to people there that were from like New York and from different parts of the world and for them it was You know just get my amazing this one woman that we spoke to from New York just heard love for the mountains and her shock at our ability to be able to just live and work in this everyday like you definitely forget how well you are

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for us, yeah, like the look of it was the same, but then I was super excited to go to to Juno, I don't know why, but you're in the port of these cities and you're kind of given information from the boat which we found out later is funded by the people that have stores in these ports.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so had we not followed those little things they gave us, maybe we would have tried to

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[SPEAKER_00]: Second, maybe every third, at least every third store is a jewelry store.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there I would say I just like trying to get you to come in and spend money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it was it was not what I expected, but man Prince Rupert was beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it was a fun trip.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My mom was surprised, cried like a baby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... what a worse than i know right uh... it was too much like all the grandkids up above and yelled out happy birthday to her from down state you know she was a tough to tell me all the surprise work by us a duty to try and organize it all was just very not

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[SPEAKER_00]: it was in the end what it was was we made sure that she was on the fourth floor they have these it's called a centrum so the whole middle is open in the boat right and so there's like a band that will play and there's a bar down there and then there's pretty much one on the next three levels as well up so we had her down on that one all the grandkids lined up on the glass like the one level up and then just to had it arranged for her to try to look up and

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[SPEAKER_00]: happy birthday grandma and then she is so funny though because you could see her look there for second and be like huh and then when she realized that she was like oh that's cute awesome making people cry it was yeah it was it was a it was a it was a cool experience I don't know that we're sold on cruises just in general like you're so you're told time constraint when you go somewhere you know you can't really explore because you're like oh my god if we're not back that

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so you stress out a bit more because you're not, you know, shit, you don't count your heads like kindergarten.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they don't give a shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we never, yeah, we didn't feel like we didn't really explore too far out except that Prince Rupert was like, I want to say we were there for like six hours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, import.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We weren't actually out in Prince Rupert for that long, but you could be if you'd wanted to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The food was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My kids loved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like my kids absolutely loved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Logan probably lived his best life ever for that week because he just let loose man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He found some friends in the fuel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was called.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was sort of like the youth, like 13 to 17.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brian Drake teen range.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he just had a blast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a fun experience, and he got the all-call package, of course, not definitely not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so there was, I mean, it was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a good trip.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did some nice stops, beautiful places to see, going up to the glacier was cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And my kids absolutely loved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a cool experience to do with them, because we had never done it before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was also all family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a bit, little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's like 18 of us, and, you know, that's too many of us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, life's good though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't played, uh, I played some, I did play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What a little nice play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did play some power altogether before we left.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then no, I have, uh, we have our privately that started.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now I got to get back into the POE one thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, it'll be cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't mean to surprise people by it, but hopefully if you feel like joining you can you can join even for some seconds like the one this word don't We have feeling to have to perform or do well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean everyone's gonna laugh at you when you die, but that's not universal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It does you're not special if you die or get laughed at

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you die and people miss, just be like, guys, please, somebody so that we don't miss it, because we would want to miss that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we also did the modifier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No rare and magic magic, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what I modified.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Justin's really excited about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you want to come play where you tend to event, it's hardcore, not SSF.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with fun modifiers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, information's in discord.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be playing there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What happened in this, uh, everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't make any notes for us, but they treated tweet tweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me, because you can't say they x and x x.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's too many X's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then Google starts playing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's way too many.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It starts telling me about, you know, stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, excuse me, that was a burp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, um, no, so they have a path to an announcement coming next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I saw August 27.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the only thing I saw here was GG Live on 27 August.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How long's the video?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no video, but it says on August 27th, we'll preview some new information about Path of XL2 and 0.5.5.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to do a live stream at 1230.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's our local time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're going to do a Q&A with 530?

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[SPEAKER_00]: 1230.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 1230.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 1230.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I probably said it, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then they're doing the thing with uh... five thirty ziggy nope no twelve thirty sorry uh... uh... sorry you probably said it right uh... gosh uh... and then you're finding yeah i know if only then they're gonna do a security after so that's cool uh... so that's all p-o-e-two related news oh but that's just a little half uh... okay so it's just an update to the point five but that's good but when's the last time they did a video update for like

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[SPEAKER_00]: point patch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The last one and that's why I think it's going to be a big one again for the so they have and I think that's great because they're they're managing to pull off that they're continuing with the point five without having leads when they're kind of just trying to get that so which is awesome I think they should which to me the leagues are actually the least important part of data you know what I mean like when they have these video reveals for the next

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[SPEAKER_01]: about the league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what do you think that what are you fair about if I care about items I care about Well, there's new ways of items.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, that's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious what this is going to be like what are you going to announce

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sweet to-handed axe efficiency?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh man, what was that from?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember what Cartoon was the guy with his kind and dog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it dog?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dog and little-pugged dog was- Maybe it's a absolute turn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's both.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he's a cat and the dog is the friend that's kind of like looks off or whatever, and that's what they're talking to a human right they're talking to a human and that's what he's doing something have an add to conditions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the parts we remember really funny in the video days, um, what do I think?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what do you think they'll come out with?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't know because they boggle my mind with what is, like, with comments they've said about what is required and not required for an official release, whether they still adhere to those comments, whether they were off the cuff or not, if I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say they don't stick in my brain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say they don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's say that they don't,

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[SPEAKER_00]: that they're fine with it not being a major release like let's say that they're fine with anything coming out in point five the point five point five oh sure okay what we're not ignoring any comments they've had about what we know alright um i think that there's not much to explain

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's nothing that you can talk about in a video that won't be insanely boring unless you need to explain something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the only thing that I can think of that's where people know what base types are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to explain that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So unless you're changing how loot works or functions a little bit and a reason behind it, like a dev manifesto, it's probably not loot related or base type related.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they're changing something to do with endgame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they didn't like how like they completely rebalanced and re-did endgame and how the quest markers work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I could see if they're making changes to endgame, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gay we made all this effort, changing it again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they've done a lot of changes, kudos to them on endgame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not saying that they were right or wrong or I have any preferences for it, but...

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I could see endgame requiring an explanation, and I could see ascendancies requiring some form of communication outside of text.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really can't see or maybe like changing how a league functions or crafting, but to me the game's already

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[SPEAKER_01]: big and convoluted, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like a lot more than I would have expected for a 1.0.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not necessarily in a bad way, but I see this being more class than a send-in C oriented this time around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see them changing endgame so quickly after a half league launch from their last endgame change.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't see that they just finished revamping a whole bunch of league mechanics, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And how it interacts with and game and the campaign.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I see this being like, all right, we've been focusing on some ascendancies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So here's a few more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I think it's going to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How about you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it will be adding stuff to it, not changing or just seeing things that already exist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would, on my personal preferences that they're not doing anything then game right now, that they're, I want to see or based it, based it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I want to see swords, I want to see axes and bring the benefit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that you can, as they are at least bringing them in, it's actually not boring because that ties into the tree as well and most likely would relate to some ascendancies or classes, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like yeah, yeah, of course a sword or an axe coming in or a dagger in most cases is probably also going to introduce a class or an ascendancy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would like to see some new weapons to use.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really want to see some new weapons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You do bring up a good point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if they are adding item-based types.

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[SPEAKER_01]: how like the difference between them or what those implicit would be you know those those improvement skills that they have that I could see requiring an explanation you did you to bring up good point I was kind of thinking like path one how items work there but considering how valuable and how the game revolves around the default skills you get with items and the lack of men and just you know just the whole.

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[SPEAKER_01]: how that's all intertwined.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could definitely see them explaining, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's daggers, here's the idea behind daggers, and here's, if they're doing room daggers again, or whatever, probably will, because right now it's just ones, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bellasractors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: London sectors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Staffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's still so many still come.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's there's there's a lot so I could definitely see them kind of Doing some videos of the different types of implicit skills that that's good that weapons have yet have they said at all or is there any talk of where there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a reset or is this just like I'm just curious if there's yeah for me that means that I'm there's a lot of big things that change if they're doing a Like a elite greaser in the sense of I hope they don't

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't care either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It couldn't care less.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the idea of people just like, I like these, I'm going to restart myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but you brought up a good point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think a couple episodes ago where the reason for the reset may not even be that, oh, we need to make sure that the economy's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's we need to make sure the drops are right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're introducing new basics, what you said to me is that if if I don't remember how came up, but I remember I was talking about the idea that if you're never restarting, then how would you know what what are the drops of like during the leveling process?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so by resetting, can you imagine if you come up with a new base type and you reset the league?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you're going to find out pretty quick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would think when you're coming out with like core base types that are

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[SPEAKER_01]: Core maps you're not talking that kind of core where it's like it would be like what path one fragments would be But if you're actually talking stuff that you need to progress with and you want to see with those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I really So then if they do Aren't you they come up with a new league mechanic But you don't have it and it's it's point five, but we're calling this a business now purple.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean it would be interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like if they did base types.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't care either way I don't care if they keep stuff, but for their own information it would be tough to just introduce a new base type and not know Yeah

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess they're I guess yeah that makes sense when I start thinking about their announcements like yeah We're not gonna have any more leagues until then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I start thinking about the the entirety of leagues But if they're thinking literally or just something like that they're just like yeah We're not adding any more league mechanics so 0.5.6.7.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're still gonna be realm restartes I'm curious It would be a I don't know it seems like a very long time to not have one

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it would be different if they weren't introducing stuff, but it seems like that they are planning to do some pretty major updates through our path to the end of the year when 1.0 will come out

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think that they're following any rules from, you know, what can and can't be released in one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I hope they don't, like, obviously we're making fun of them because they don't really adhere to their own plans and their own announcements and what would you like them to do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, this is kind of like what I wanted them to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you mean, like, yeah, beta.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when crap is ready, put it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, if you restart it, great if you don't find it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But are you fine with them doing that now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Up until 1.0, because I am.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like the- For our long-term listeners and even some that have quit, they'll know this is the part that I've been excited for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not like the end of beta, but everything that has yet to be changed and added to the game, those were the parts of the game that excite me the most.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not how end game functions and not how like everything that they've done till now are the least interesting parts of the game to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything about...

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[SPEAKER_01]: ascendancies and items and like that's the stuff that really gets me going and that's the stuff that's still yet to come.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for me it doesn't really matter about the pacing just as long as it comes out but I want time to play with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want time to enjoy it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see how whatever class it interests me is changed a hundred times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you know how the Templar has been so crazily changed over time in Bath 1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to experience that in the beta and be like oh, you remember there's like that two weeks Didn't where the witch did this man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's soft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun to talk about that ten years later or two years later So that's the stuff that I like but that kind of stuff hasn't really happened yet So I don't really care about how they go about it

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just hope they don't save that stuff for one point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, because otherwise, like everything that they did in beta was like the least interesting parts of the game to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're just interested in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Certainly, though, not a criticism.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They do it how they do it, but the out of what interest me, that's where I'm at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't care if they

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[SPEAKER_01]: puked all out at once and then fine tune it or if it's one ascendancy a week or a month doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My hope is that they come out with as much as they can come out before one point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 100%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, if that was your question, I'm on the same page.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think as you described yours, I was like, I think that's what I said, because that's definitely how I would prefer them to do it as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to wait to 1.0 and then there's all these other things I got to figure out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I played to play your beta.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Give me the stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me try it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and if they're doing the whole, you know, show about it, there's obviously going to be quite a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope it's not just endgame changes because I need some new stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I need new characters, new

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's been a very end game and find that every very end game focused for a while and fine-tuning other things, but it's the character development, like I said, that really gets me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe that's why I've found it boring, like I've been trying to like it, but I've been finding the process boring, maybe it's, yeah, I guess it's that has been the lack of variety, not necessarily that things haven't changed, but if things aren't changing additions, it is a beta, you know, and I mean, and so it's that kind of stuff that I've been excited for, so

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, definitely like, when you mentioned the passive tree, I'm like, you know, what it would be pretty crazy to have it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is it that's on the passive tree that isn't supported by items yet?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it access?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know if there's swords now, but there were acts as all the way back from when we tried it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, since it originally launched the Rax cluster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, whatever, based I think it was access clusters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I still think it would be kind of nuts to go through your whole beta.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and still not have touched on that cluster, or clusters until one point of actually launches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm like, who cares what I think, like, when you're ready, you're ready.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the way that you and I have always, always thought about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like don't harvest it, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the league harvest, remember when harvest they're like, oh, there's gonna break the game and Chris had this crazy smile on a space and it totally broke the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they wanted to add it to the core experience, which is crazy because it broke the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they take a month to figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they bring it in and it still breaks the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they have to take it away and bring it back like, just when you're ready.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's why the weapon-based types excites me so much is because you can't just release access.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't make sense because you can't use them for most of the skills that exist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if you can't use them for most of the skills, then that means we're going to need some new skills.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if we have new skills, then that means there's going to have to be a new ascendant to your class that starts with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if there's a new class, then there's at least a new ascendancy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the...

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[SPEAKER_00]: the dominoes that fall when you introduce just a face type is huge and so that's why I can understand why there's maybe been a delay and then because the fact is dropping acts is right now isn't helpful because most of the skills require to face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you'd, unless you're reading some of the skills or something, I just feel like there's so much connected to what a new base type comes out and so that's why I'm like, please, just one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for me, I'm excited for something minion related that isn't like a scepter, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or isn't just rattling, except at the same time, I'm like, well, you can't come up with like a second version of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then not come up like the basics of an actual archetype, not released yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be like coming out with all six which ascendancies and not one for another crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have anything temporary yet, through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's nothing great top left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, I mean, I mean, there's so wait.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a new record right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, maybe we don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, there's the druid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the druid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that so we have the druid?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's one of the two classes that's going to have the set together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's the Oracle and the Shaman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, so I think there's still one more there, but then yeah, we don't know what the other Templar is going to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, if we, and then swords would have been all towards the bot, at least I'm thinking old school POE one, give me a bottom left and bottom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have, it's taking a bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: so the witch has all six on the top right uh we what do we have on the top right that's the monk right so we don't have the three for the other version of the monk uh we have five that a six for whatever the ranger is called mm-hmm

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have three out of six for the mercenary side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have three out of six for the marauder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why do you see out of six?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are there so?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because there's two classes per oh and you're talking about a total of tendencies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

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[SPEAKER_01]: and those two are the druid and the what's the other one we don't know yet but i guess technically we could but we don't and actually the witch actually has seven because there's a second of it she's good so there's a lot to come out and but you're right like as as generic and they've actually done a really good job keeping things generic you know what i mean like not feeling pigeonholed like in the first game some of the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good at being generic and you feel like you have a lot of variety with some others They seem to pigeonhol you pretty good, but they've done a pretty good job here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not saying they all interest me most most don't currently But they've done a good job at keeping things generic and I do not envy the individual who's like, what do you mean were double in your sentences?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean be one the more generic?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean that's my job?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, so yeah, that's what so August 27th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so that's how far away next week

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just around the river bend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I didn't see anything else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the only thing I saw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now you explained what it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is exciting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, looking forward to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be really telling, I guess, because this will be the first update they've had since League Launched that at that League Launch, they said this is our last League Launch until we officially launched the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is that first one that's going to kind of give us the...

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, 0.5 points, I don't know if I had a video announcement or not with the like, come here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, I can't tell like with point four, they did do a big video about it and it was all new Atlas passive tree like when they completely changed the passives Oh, but yeah, it was was point four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it wasn't lead launch though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was just five, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they did a big 0.3 in a big 0.4, but I don't see if they actually did what they're doing for this one, which is like a come alongside and we'll do a Q&A.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, while yeah, their patches were big 0.3 and 0.4.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're both very big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But not big enough for a show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Come here, Axe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, that's, oh, hey, ascendancies is another thing that could require a video.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Adding course, the third ascendancy, not the sent, sorry, ascending, oh, ascending.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Adding, um, yeah, we're going to try and see the answers or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, my goal, and it's not going to happen, but my dream is that they get rid of Sekima and from the required process, and the trials of Chaos, I just want them to disappear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want them to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: from the required process have them in the game however you like but to actually have to have me go through it and i guess technically the argument is i don't need to i can wait for the trials of what are they called the the the thing that's going to come out with the turtles and the totems toe toeba moba soba

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever, yeah, whatever, the answer is one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Technically, I can wait to that one to do three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, I mean, as if I don't have to do second one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That one could be just as bad, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The biggest problem we, I mean, we've talked about that at length, so we don't have to get into it, but the biggest problem is that it doesn't lend well to every type of build.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, I don't know how that won't work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just hope that they're willing to be like, okay, the removed from the required ascension process in the with the same level of awareness or enthusiasm or whatever it would be that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did with the end game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How like they changed your mind?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What would you ever replace like?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How would you get a son?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How don't if if if if if if they're listening, please don't Go back to traps in a zaro even though I'll take you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we prefer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No don't say it like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have to be very careful with our wording.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, do you always need to go through a trial, something difficult to ascend or do you just because you hit a certain level you should ascend or is it just completing a quest and you have to kill a certain boss.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe like add an extra boss or two to the end of the act or some.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think they're going anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think what we have is what was going to stay the way that it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But did they say like I'm curious do you think they dropped the zones the act five and six but prior to 1.0.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that they I think they'll probably wait to like complete the story out into 1.0.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I

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[SPEAKER_01]: In general, I don't see that being bad to release your final acts with the end of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the strategy has been getting criticism.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whether they agree with it or not, I don't know, but they have been getting criticism to what the areas are like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How difficult they are to see without the minimap, how large they are, how checkpoints work,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe if what they had was already a little bit more fine tuned and maybe they're happy with the way that it isn't okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then if they are and they've heard all the criticisms and they're like, no, we like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We hear you, but we like it, then that comes out with 1.0, but if they're seriously considering making some changes, then you got to come out with 5 and 6 before 1.0 to make sure that it follows the same patterns that you're going to be making to 1 to 4, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: curious to see what they think about in terms of the criticisms that they've heard so far regarding the campaign.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, though, that would fall into line if they were considering changing how characters unlock ascension,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would definitely fall in line be part of that domino effect you're referring to like with items and ascendancies Because we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm actually quite excited for this very excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to get down create some hardcore character It's not sweet soundies and

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[SPEAKER_01]: then die.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good luck with white items.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This isn't tough for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You used this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how I play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But so I know it doesn't matter as much, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you used to be so...

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the color of the sockets with such a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, everything's easy mode now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember that's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I forgot about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been like a week and a half since I've played.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll have to see if the magic in rare items dropped from League Mechanics or not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I did see some discussion in discord as to where they would maybe drop or not, maybe drop it is quite funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do love reading it because I'm like, oh my god, these guys have thought about way more than I thought about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just like, oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, there's a magic let's do it then people are talking about the different mechanics and I was like, ah, I hope it's not easy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, or I mean, they'd be smart to not share it because then I'd be every week just like, don't have any items this is stupid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Meanwhile, everybody's decked out, you know, you're gonna play today?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah, we're recording same time tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tonight, um, usually, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah, I'll make sure that I have some time today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, don't die.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I might start tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I might start tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kids are going for a sleepover today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My mom and sister so stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're now air nile hanging out for a bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she's got her big broadcast tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's starting at like 12 o'clock 1 a.m. Not really, but she had a thousand followers on Twitter, which is very cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so she's celebrating that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's doing like a epic long broadcast for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't sell like a celebration.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What, broadcasting?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's over there really in broad ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, when you like it, when you like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she's she's been planning on doing that tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's been planning ahead for that and she's really excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll be hanging out today and that's her plan tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll probably start tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have to play on your computer with it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is Pew.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had to install it upstairs on the old crappy one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah, you would have to because yeah, we can't do it on consoles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be one thing down the road once we eventually switch to purely two private leagues that they will be Inclusive of all devices.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, start PC only.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have a freaking clue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I haven't even thought about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to go on to pee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We ninja at some time before we record tonight and see What is I'll send you a link to a really good build I found

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, I can't wait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you can't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully it opens up in Pewey Planer because that's what I

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're right and and hopefully there's a there's a filter that accommodates.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I attached filter would be amazing Yes, yeah, I know yeah a text file, please All right, let's wrap this up forever X. I'll 358.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just an AK text.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Tyler record days patrons will see you and after dark everybody else Hopefully you want to join us in the private league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can find the information on our discord It does a very fun place to pop in and say hello as well You can find on our website forever XL.com and patreon and other ways support pockets to find them there as well

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, bye.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nope, how do I stop?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.