That Cursed Atlas Passive Tree

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to Forever XL, I'm Justin A.K.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tags, and I'm Tyler Rekker of Days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Episode 362, oh, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got the jitters, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cam is got the jitters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's uh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Episode 362, Forever XL, here we are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Together again, together again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bear show to your Patreon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Big show, no, let me do that slower.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Big show to our patrons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, everybody, who resubbed up this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, it wasn't me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I clicked something there, but it shouldn't have done to both of us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, thank you to everybody who resubbed up this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Patron gets your access to after the Arkansas podcast after the podcast and we appreciate this for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All I did was change my own layout.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted to see us closer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Change my layout closer, but I don't know why I controlled yours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like that it flops the sides though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's alphabetical.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you screwed it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What was that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why did it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, why do we, here we are, has week?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not good, good, good, good, good, good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Make it a week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this year we're deciding to buy school supplies for the kids as they need them, like the teachers this year seem, well, all of us, not by let's, seems to be quite communicative.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so as he needs stuff, then we're just gonna show up at Walmart, get what he needs and,

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[SPEAKER_01]: come on back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We find we had quite a lot of extras year after year after year after stuff, so we're going to go do that, and then yeah, but it's been a good week, really good week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of us doing, um, your legs for last.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, yeah, you just see the jiggle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here, I'll fix it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm talking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You do and see if I fly football.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's doing fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the NFL started doing some stuff in Canada a few years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they just have like, it's high, like, it's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That gets over for all of her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like, it's like the NFL, like, says, like, hey, we're going to do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's like, oh, by the way, we need it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: a buttload of volunteers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you figure that out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, everybody out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, guess what, but if you want an NFL logo on you think yeah, you got it so anyway, that's how it is judgespixed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not too bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the he's he's been really enjoying it, but he's like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Dad, can we go set and practice?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Dad, I've got my cleats on, I've got my blockers out because you know, he's doing like the blocker braces thing and so he doesn't want to get smashed in the face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I've got my blockers in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, let's go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's practicing his curl routes and he's out and so it's so fun to watch him go around and but he's like very self.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, overly self-aware self-concerned, I guess you could, I don't know what the proper terms are, but he like, he drops a ball and he's like, you really thinks he sucks like, oh, self-times, you know what, oh yeah, well, but like to the point where it's like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: dropping one out of nine and you got to tell him like dude you caught nine like you're fine you know what I mean and if you missed a blind line that's what we're here for and uh so you know it's just one of those things where he's at that stage of life where everything's just so magnified he's 11 you know

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, at the end of what was it inside out, you remember, Joy, sadness, inside out of the movie where you're in the mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, by the way, anyway, it's like, it's, you know, at the end of the movie where it, anyway, so, you know, right at least 12.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What could happen?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, puberty and so I can only get better from here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly, so that's just where he's at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Violet's having a great time, and she's in grade eight, and that's the end of middle school here, and she's just happened to blast with it all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Grow an even more of a spine So the kids are even more lovely this year than they were last year So it's doing well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's doing well, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How was your week?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like I didn't do anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No for me last year I know I'll just like dog and Chores and extra scenes that you saw you walk on with the dog They were a close beast of a dog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know the dog get no clothes on this time

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, thanks again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he's he's doing really well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Astro.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, here I go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Boy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Your camera.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is it doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you see it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I don't look at me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I look at and I look at you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I only the only time I see me is like, I occasionally glance at you when you're talking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just to make sure things are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just love them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I used to do this to my old phones to like get it to focus again and then it would focus on my videos of my old kids are all like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Larry because the stupor camera is not focused and then so I was you know half of the thing is coming anyway The Astros doing great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's doing really well like he's still a pop He's still you know got puppy psycho, but he is like you could just tell He's gonna be a good dog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He really wants to try hard and he's doing he's doing well So we're happy with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How's your week this week was good it was

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[SPEAKER_00]: trying to think what I did that's not work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: helped help my 16 year old change of battery and his car which was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I should remember it like I do enjoy that because I remember having like my car when I was younger and like messing around with it and taking things apart and replacing things and yeah so it's fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See how we did that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Back when carberators were a thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well it was I feel like I had more I like now I don't want to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have no interest

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[SPEAKER_00]: but it's fun to do with him for his car because he's you know learning about the car and the parts and so I do enjoy that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did have no interest anymore for myself but it is fun doing with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's so yeah we worked around a little bit on his car and then I don't know it was work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like I don't I don't think I'd really do anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I played some no man's guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because we gave the very strong impression that you were unintentionally done with path for the time being last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I mean, we'll chat about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I look through some of the stuff, but when I turn on my computer, if I want to play a game, I got to enjoy it for a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, no one's got to hit a bunch of, Wait, did you say turn on your computer?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because that implies that it goes off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it reboots, but oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's neat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, but the week was good and we're we're watching Reacher season four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you start at season one we've seen all of them up to okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right season and so you waited until the last week when the final episode was out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but he came out came out this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am two or three episodes from the end and it is my least favorite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: reach a season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was time to mile for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what's going to happen in the last three episodes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really hoping that there's something in these last three episodes that will make the story seem more believable because of right now I'm like what

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you talk like it just I don't know I just haven't really I couldn't even say anything without spoiling it for what bothers me about it, but maybe maybe maybe in a couple weeks when I don't feel so bad about potentially spoiling something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How about you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you watch them?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I watch them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I like them, but I, like, I can't recommend them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're well done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought they were just like really well done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the first one's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it adds that really cool personal element by the end of the first episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I really like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think there's some things that they do really

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[SPEAKER_01]: poorly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think a bunch of it's directing, but then there's just a whole bunch of stuff that's in the books that they don't really apply well, and I haven't read the books, but you can just tell that they're like trying to add this element, but it has all of a sudden it appears in these stores.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the fact that he just goes around these leaps with whoever, and then it just shows up like it just, that's not really well done in the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's supposed to have a reputation, I'm supposed to be aware of,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very cheesy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, when you look at the Tom Cruise ones, you remember those movies?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not cheesy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just, he's, he's a lot more mysterious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, he wears this one, not in a bad way, but he's not mysterious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just more like literal and autistic and no mercy, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like they've leaned even heavier into that arc as the Reacher seasons have gone on like he's progressively become more like that than he was in the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, but I also just think the storyline specifically revolving.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, two characters in particular.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, oh, yeah, I think part of it was because they're doing the Neily show and so like you couldn't have some of the regular cast with them because The reason to tell me something about something with Neily.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is that so that's the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So remember the girl that was in the other ones, the where she was like, just go to and support the gun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're just doing a whole show over her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's coming out in like two seconds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So none of that stuff was available.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, you're trying to come up with a new cast and then come up with a story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I agree, this the story itself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is this was my least favorite season as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're watching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so well done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think they're too cheesy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They cut too many corners.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's way too much convenience, but I still enjoy them for what they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, well, I'll watch them knowing they're teasing and be happy when I'm done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I'm typically very easy going when it comes to watching the shows and we're watching it because it's the fourth season and we've like, we have liked all the other seasons and it's not that this is bad necessarily.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just worse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It there's been a few things that have really bothered me about it that I'm like that doesn't make sense But I've never read the book, so I have no idea which version in my brain of Reacher is the Real mentor version, but yeah, yeah, and then we're just you've seen it I have some very specific examples that I want to give you as to why like things that just completely take me out of the story

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, when you're watching a story, even if it's stupid, if it's meeting your expectations or you're crazy into it, you forget you're watching a story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of a sudden, the episode's done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, oh, you smoked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like an hour and have passed my bedtime or whatever it is, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas sometimes there's stuff that happens in a show, like, uh, rings a power is really good for this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm into it, but there's so much stupid that I constantly remember I'm watching a show because wow, that really took me out of the moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is completely unrealistic or unbelievable or really stupid or whatever, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, Reacher has a lot of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought Reacher's power was really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, oh, I am curious what yours are because I season four there can, I can name like at least two, both of us were like, oh, come on, oh, he's early episodes, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, probably like recent, third or fourth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Once we hit about the halfway mark is four episodes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So between, can you give me something like, if you think it's in the first few, like four, because now there's eight, so you can pick up the pace.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I think the idea of any sort of love story with him is just weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I like how it was done in the first couple seasons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This one was a bit different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just seemed too set up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was too obvious that that's the direction

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then what led from that is where I was like, like when the story takes a turn, and you all of a sudden realize things that you wouldn't really have had a way of knowing beforehand, I just did not buy it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like that, just...

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just doesn't fit, but I can't say much else with those points, I think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To give you some encouragement, things are well explained, okay, and tied together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it has a feeling like it was well explained, explain the stupid decisions, because that's where I'm struggling with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay, well, I guess it depends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we filled out some space with both of us that just randomly seen clips for the last while every now and then from it's always sunny in Philadelphia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's what it's called.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we started watching that from the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hate watching old shows from the beginning, just because the quality, I know it's quite old, isn't it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's 2005.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think 2005, 2006.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, not 20 years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was pretty old when I looked at when the one so you can't look at people from the early 2020s or it's the 2000s.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the like the just the way that it was shot and stuff right like that it would have been yeah 2005's when it came out like that was what it was that's how shows were shot that was the cameras they had like this was the lighting that they had it just there's no

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not high-daf, you're watching a standard definition version of a TV show, and that's a bit hard for me, because it's just uncomfortable, I don't like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, we've only gotten through to the third season, and it's mostly just been filler every now and then we watch some episodes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It makes me laugh because there's a lot of stuff that you could not do in a TV show now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That they were all sharing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, it's been funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm looking forward to getting into newer seasons because hopefully they'll, whatever, be a little bit cleaned up and little more high definition is what I'm looking for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My TV shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, wait, we spend good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know how we went off on that tangent, but we think it's things are good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I played some games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't touch Path of Excel this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My son did actually he played a druid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess he got a message.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really know how he got notified about the fact that like, you know how they're doing this weird giveaway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's not a giveaway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like if we have a certain amount of people sign up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and they've got some like, So first time we've ever seen a version of a 1 million, 2 million.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's based on millions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I saw the number and I was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that one minute?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that two minutes?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what are we doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like hopeful here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so a bunch of people have to sign up in four minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that with four M means?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, somehow he saw that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he signed up for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because then I guess you can, well, because he get the NTX.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But so he was playing Path of Exile 2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's playing a druid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I was helping him with his, just actually not anything on his build.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's, I don't know what he's doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's figuring his build up, which is fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was helping to make a choice for a unique because he was doing the new rituals, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: so then we're watching TV show last night and he comes out and he walks around the corner and he just sits there and stares and there's a look that kids give you and it gets even more pronounced as they get older where you're like, I'll just pause because I know you have something to say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This might take a minute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I use all proud because it was the first time he had beaten Gregory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, first try.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First try.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's being Gregory in the past, but it's been multiple tries, who's quite impressed with that he had been it on his first attempt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was funny if you could tell it's like, yeah, that's what he needed to tell us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when he tried to say the name, I think it was actually even Christina, it was like, what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, who is that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he tried to say like G&R, and she's like, what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And no, it's like Gregory, I'd be Gregory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, yeah, life's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Things are good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What have we got this week in PUE?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I looked at you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really surprising just because like, I don't know, they need this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, the business models, once every three months, once every four months, if you're pushing it and it's been like almost non-existent and you're coming up to path to and I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just surprised that like especially if they were withholding so much just for the sake of quality versus quantity on this release, which of course it was disappointing to them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just, I don't know, half expecting them to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have things to real people in, in time, whether it be patches or...

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what they were doing, I don't know what they were doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had a fan art competition and they're just posting the runners up now because that's all done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I don't know, maybe they think people and maybe there are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't care about the races, but maybe like they have these path 1 and path 2 races qualify events.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think they're going to have that they must excel on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Things are going to have a path 1 and a path 2 live event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, but do they do they twitch those, like stream those?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that twitch drops if you watched.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've kind of come to a thing where in my life, you know, only 44 years it took me to I don't care about the mtx.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would like the mtx, but I'm not going to watch it just for the mtx.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, if I want it to watch it, then I will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I looked at it and I'm like, I was pretty cool, but I'm proud of my adults like choice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's exactly it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, hey, hey, listen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not just taking any random MTX anymore, because you can't pick, you have to be careful of what you can't select what's part of the random pool, get out of my house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And don't go put another purple portal on for free, which crap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then oh, a regular yellow one or orange one now, that's just like the blue one, a girlfriend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I saw that, yeah, I saw that and then I saw that they had, they did like the stone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did they call it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: StoneFist, introducing the way of the StoneFist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It threw me off a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you watch that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all MTX related.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was their new thing for, it looks like a monk sort of style for MTX, like an armorset, and then you can change into a polar bear now and to like a leopard thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll pick your dog up and show me your dog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's picked up on her freaking toes because Christina's off today and so she wants attention and so she'll walk around on her nails to make sure you can hear them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's serious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's intentional.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll do it on purpose to get your attention.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How's Salam?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Salam.

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[UNKNOWN]: Oh God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh... Well... Nine?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eight?

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's close to my youngest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So somewhere between eight and nine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Seven and nine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Seven and nine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Pomsky?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Pomsky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pomeranian slash husky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, what does I say?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so the stonefish that you want to run with a male in the female was in the Palm ski mix?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I already know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the male one time for that's a that's a region member.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they, so this don't fisted you watch the video for the M-Tex?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't watch the M-Tex stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I saw the picture of it, it made me, you won't even know this reference, but all I could think of was legal legends, Wu Kong, this character from legal legends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay, yeah, um, but, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it had a bit it was a whole mtx video and then they had a whole mtx for the polar bear skin and the whole mtx for this new leopard thing followed by like I'm just if my if my voice goes crackly for you Just know in the recording for some reason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea why Riverside does this anyway a rower frost bomb rating grenades a bunch of skill effects and then fentasmal crossbow and skill effects like a lot of skill effects is what they came out with cool

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[SPEAKER_00]: for path 1, 2, 2, okay, it's pack.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are all, no, not pack.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's one pack, stone fist pack, but then everything else is individual.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like the polar bear, the leopard skin, and then all of the other ones that I mentioned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't mind that they have MTX, I think it's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I have two problems, and it's not problems.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just bringing these up to just be a bit of a third.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One is, everyone already knows your a third.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're not, one is, I like the MTX, but like POE 1 MTX at some point, are we ever getting that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or can they just commit to the fact that that's probably not coming or like what is the, I just don't understand what the rate is that we'll see some of the original POE 1 skins coming into POE 2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I do understand that they need to make one of the two new stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're referencing the transition to path two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think all like you just like miss path one one reason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I'm just talking about the stuff that I've already paid for in Pewie one to be available in Pewie two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But but bring it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do understand that that's a little bit of maybe it's been, um, I don't mean it to come across as entitled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying it bothers me because they said they were going to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be different if that wasn't a commitment they'd be like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: That maybe if they said like, oh, well, when we get around to it that kind of stuff will come out That's not how it was put forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when I see all of this stuff coming out I'm like, okay, that's cool, but I personally still haven't spent a whole lot of money on Pwe2 because I'm enjoying the mtx as sorry Not mtx, but just the artwork as it is But it does bother me a tiny bit when I'm like, well, I don't even want to buy all that new stuff because I'm still waiting to see

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[SPEAKER_00]: My old stuff come over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe they're not going to or maybe that's going to be a slower release, but they've never said anything since saying they're going to have a bit knowledge did that's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they do have relatively large lists like on the bigger releases like when they do their leagues, they'll have like a nice pair of lists of empty exit comes out and that's

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so I'm curious if there is just one or two people that are slowly like just chip in a way Getting it all done, but it does is it is frustrating because of the lack of Communication regarding that the acknowledgement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you know that money you've already spent that we've guaranteed you'll be able to interact with again It's been two years

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, that's a long time to not acknowledge it's long time to not say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And even if you have the trickle effect of, yeah, slowly, but surely it's coming out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, just say, still need to, yeah, every now and then, hey, just let, you know, we're still working hard on the money you spent and, you know, like, well, we're in just like, when they do the releases, when they come up with them, like say something in there that these are all path of XO1 skins, because the truth is, I'm only seeing the path of XO1 skins that I purchased, whether they're available or not, I have no idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: hundreds that I don't have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they could be still releasing them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I saw that and I was like, well, that's a little bit bothersome, but then also I was like, man, and I know that they are not related at all with the people that are working on mtx have nothing to do with developing the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the actual development of the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you just had a big thing come out where you said we're not doing any updates.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not doing any balance stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you push out like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just, it was annoying because I was like, man, well, that's certainly not what's ever drawing me back into PUE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's not going to ever be the MTX that are going to be the thing that pulls me back in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was a bit bummed when I saw how many they came out with when, I don't know, I felt like there was other things, but again, I know that they're not really at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I hear it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's kind of like if it with GGG was a person, it's not really reading the room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, this is really awkward, but I actually knocked on your door because I'm doing this like, it's like working on, you know, yeah, like, you know, but also I really hope you're doing well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right like it's kind of like that except company but yeah I know I hear yeah I get where you're coming from I get where you're coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's cool I'm glad that they're doing it I'm glad that they're coming out with new skins I know that there's always going to be skins for me to purchase down the road or if I build up points to buy but I am enjoying just the normal artwork a few we do so MTX for me is not at the forefront of what I'm looking for in Path of Excel too right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like a lot of the bass art work in Path 1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the more form fitting stuff like of the decks pure decks based gear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the end stuff I think looks pretty cool and there's a few armor energy shield bass types that I think look really cool as well in Path 1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, I don't really like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I like it really, you don't really know what I don't do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just doesn't suit my, and these aren't criticisms.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if anybody from GG's listening and they do the artwork, they're not Christmas, it's just like, you know, oh, my favorite color is yellow, my favorite color is pink.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's just certain mtx that I like and I buy and that style of mtx just doesn't, it's not in the natural artwork of things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's some art in path one where I'm like, oh, I don't really want to use my mtx.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I think this actually looks cooler if this was the mtx if the base artwork was the mtx that's what I would buy you know and I mean I like that certain styles of things and but a lot of the base work in path to isn't my style so I'm going to be more inclined to to use that kind of mtx sooner and you focus or have been seen mostly in-based stuff

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just because like that's one thing that I've been like can we just like get into rambling now like is there anything else you want to bring up about this week or anything?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they had a patch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so like I've been just having I've been enjoying my build, but it hasn't worked out like it's strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the reason that I'm the, so remember I'm doing like minion instability and then I can tree swap to like minion mitigation where they're able to take damage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can do permanent minions or minion instability with my build with the tree swap and I'm doing broots on lock broots and I'm going through I'm still in the campaign I'm playing very little but I'm lock broots and man I love the broots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like they kind of don't hit really hard but then all of a sudden they have this one like golf swing that they do that's just so powerful and when they all do it at one setting he's just disappear off the screen it's really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I really like the boots and then I swap of course to all just, um, skeletal warriors for them to explode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they have more life per, I do the math, you know, they have more life per spirit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the broots have way more life than the skeletal warriors and the skeletal warriors have more life than any other minion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's broot skeletal warriors in there, but the broots have way more life than the skeletal warriors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when it comes to minion instability in the amount of spirit they cost, skeletal warriors are easily superior with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like a two for free, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you also don't have to worry about jewelers or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just have to wrap up an upgrade's off you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I really like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so like I'm enjoying the build itself, but the reason that I started off as the warrior and being the Smith of Katava was so that that build your own bare chest piece, chest piece was going to mitigate things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And unfortunately there's just too much coming at you in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: where, sure, okay, my armor now counts towards chaos hits.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, okay, but there's so much other damage that is really doesn't seem to be mitigating much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's any time I'm getting hit by chaos damage as a hit, there's also gunby tons of chaos on the ground in different ways and that's the killer for me all the time anyway, so it's not really a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I do like, um, negating crits right off the bat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a huge focal point for me in path 1 and path 2 because there's no, not like, how do you know what's a crit and what's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I love just getting immunity to that in a way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I do like that, but then everything else, like even just, even though I'm doing like ES bases or armor ES bases, depending on what falls, that's what I have the attributes for based on the skills I'm using.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the amount of armor I have still isn't enough for me to be like, oh, I'm comfortable with physical, I guess physical hits, like it's still not enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'd rather just start off as something that's more feasible, both right off the bat for leveling because I was like 14 nodes of just actually travel points until I got there right on the attribute highway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I may as well just start as something else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I've been looking around at, you know, mulled over my options.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, maybe like I've been thinking about the sorceress, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I've been thinking about like the starting cluster still eat at me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They really do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I was thinking about, okay, letting in, and I know I know I've like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: beaten to hell the the witch gets 100% oh maybe it's five maybe it's nine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh gosh, better not be nine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 104% minion damage that's gated behind being the witch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now if I start as the warrior that 104% isn't there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get the sorceress starting point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not the witch starting point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I start as another class

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[SPEAKER_01]: that sucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, something about other things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've always loved my curse as end if if I'm trying to mitigate against hits and it's just frustrating in general, in feeble is my easiest best bet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just makes sense while I'm clearing to just deal with in feeble because that's just a flat reduction of all hits coming my way no matter what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if I'm doing curses, if I'm doing in feeble, I'm thinking about blasphemy for clearing, and then swapping out a blasphemy for bosses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so now blasphemy's in aura.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, now there's three aura clusters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Two of them have like a substantial amount of increased magnitude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One does not, but it has other perks, but it's pretty far away from the north side of the tree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, okay, let's do the two big clusters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm like, oh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what it would be really cool to start as the shaman because the shaman I get that extra hundred and forty Spirit or hundred and twenty spirit just If you do not using charms and I'm like that's that's awesome because then I can use that huge hunk of spirit That would normally be reserved for blasphemy and would basically mean that I can't do permanent minions right or reviving minions

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now I could, if I was the shaman, I'm like, oh, sweet, all right, so now I can invest into this and do that and I'm planning the whole tree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking about it in my head, all the pros and cons and what I want to do, what I'm going to swap to, I go to build it and I'm like, arc frapp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Starting as the shaman,

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[SPEAKER_01]: changes that starting cluster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So one of those or a clusters is actually gone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, Oh, really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, I'm actually finding like, I get that it's unique and cool to have a different tree based on what you're starting as, but I'm finding it way more of a hindrance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe just because they don't have half the crap in the game so far, like, like, if I had other residencies to pick from, maybe that wouldn't be a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's been the same bloody

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to find creative ways to enjoy the game and I'm finding that the swapping the first two clusters for a starting class is really hindering any cool ideas I want to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not adding to it, it's taking away from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's been really frustrating because I actually with the exception of doing exactly what I've been doing for the last but load of leagues.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not finding

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a lot of skills, there's a lot on the tree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's half of the, well, a third or half of the ascendancies I have encountered, there should be something available, but it's not that interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm trying to find ways to make it interesting and exciting and to deal with the current balance of the game, who knows if it's going to stay like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's been like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like the build, and I'm going through, but now that I'm like, okay, the build relatively set up, I have four or three sockets on everything, and now I'm locked, you know, the two 13 or the level 13 skills, I'm like, okay, I've got what I need now, and the build is strong, but the reason for being my ascendancy ended up being more pointless than I was hoping it would be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and coming up with something different has not been fun, it's been hindering.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's been disappointing in terms of that this week, trying to find something that works and isn't holding me back, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But are you trying to find something that works that's also

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[SPEAKER_01]: different though because well, but you could, I mean, no, no, the reason that I wanted to do the warrior wasn't because it's different it's because it has all that awesome defense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was I was enjoying the idea of all that awesome defense was it awesome tendency actually awesome defense though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, it ends up there's no worth it at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that was the idea, and then my whole tree was minions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the whole tree had nothing to do with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was no defense for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just the ascendancy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, okay, so that didn't work out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now, if I just do the witch, I can easily do curses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, then why not do the way?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the reason to not do the way?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because that's the only thing that I like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not, I don't like anything else when it comes to minions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I might like the source or else, like you were really teasing me with ES and C. I, the other time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm trying to see if there's ways that I can do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the one thing now that I'm kind of trying to balance is, okay, I would love to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the thing that you're doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: See, I'd love to do see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that would be really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Your cat's playing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to do see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I but what I really want to do so it's tough because I don't think I'll be able to do it But I'm trying to find a way to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm mulling it around since the whole Smiths at Katava thing didn't work out and then my whole idea of being a shaman with The Oros didn't really work out in my cooking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I can let go, and if I just completely ignore what the starting clusters are, they're powerful, though, it's so tough to ignore it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if I can ignore them, I have a few options.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shaman still one of them for the 120 extra spirit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, there's the Verasta, Verasta, but the really frustrating thing about that is you get like no information about all those skills or minions until you're there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could show you them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could screenshot for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then, you know, so then I'm like, okay, well, then what else is there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so what I'm trying to do is we're not trying to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to see if I can find a way to be comfortable having chaos and occupation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to have a tree where I have permanent minions or minion instability.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't have that on the same tree because of, you know, investment into minion mitigation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but then also I would love to be able to do blasphemy and temporal chains while clearing, or sorry, temporal chains are no feeble with blasphemy while clearing, and then swap out of that for a boss fight and then just curse them and fight and whatever, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have more, more minions instead of oros for the boss fight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but it doesn't correspond really well you know what I mean I that would almost require three tree swaps in a way just because of how skills work in their tied to a tree like if I do blasphemy on one I don't have the spirit available for just for permanent minions you know what I mean so swapping between

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of like, how would I word it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to be able to swap between temper or like exploding like dying minions and permanent minions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't have space for either with minions with blasphemy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, like the idea of me wanting blasphemy in the bill doesn't suit either of those trees because it eats up all that spirit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just sharing the same resource and so I would be doing something like living lightning or zombies while clearing with my blasphemy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then swapping out a blasphemy would mean I have to choose between either minions to ability or permanent minions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just trying to find a way to make that work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it'd be like, you know, back in the day you would like do that gem swap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you'd go into the boss battle and then quickly like, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just before you enter the boss gate, you do that one swap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That one skill that was like extra AOE versus something like cas speed or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you forget part with through the boss fight and back then you couldn't pause the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe do something like that because this game can pause and then all I do is just.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bring out my spirit allocation like okay time to take off blasphemy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm doing crease my skeletons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably be tedious, but probably what about giving up on curses

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[SPEAKER_01]: But well, but that's the thing, like I was trying to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I was going with the warrior, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: For all that damage mitigation, but it's just to the curses are just to, they require so little investment for such strong defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, but you could also do no investment and still we get in a benefit out of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's very true, um, not with blasphemy though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, but well, yes, I am very blasphemy, but I still probably wouldn't even, I don't know, like, when I look at the here, let me quickly tell you I'm going to bring it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can tell you on the brush to side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you would need all of the stuff you're talking about because the damage is quite strong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now that could just be because of the ascendancy, but, um, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, for sure, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the only reason is like, I, maybe the problem is because I do spreadsheets and I see the difference, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So with, and this isn't with all the clusters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is just with, three out of the six clusters for curses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, in feeble, which would probably be the most important one, is that 29% with three clusters, okay?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With, oh, oops.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: 29%?

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[SPEAKER_01]: 29% reduced damage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It goes down to 19% without it, and I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have a that's 19% with a no investment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's all those points true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, but the amount of investment I'm giving into them is very little.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we're talking to still something you could be putting into damage or survivability.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but the survivability.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I would do that if I was going E-C-I.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would probably just get rid of the curse stuff if I was going C-I.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, from the warrior side too, if you were using a flat armor base and if you had armor nodes, I would imagine that that defense would feel quite a bit better than what you're feeling right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But think of the difference between an 18% slow and a 32% slow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't tell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 19% when you load, when you, when you, when you're the chrono answer, and you're like, hey, enemies around you are 20% slower.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, what the, are they not?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, no, you can tell with 10 chains, whatever base, 10 chains is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's 8 billion percent when it's put on you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, first you can tell it's awful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but I'm even when you cast it on another mob.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what, what 10 chains is base in in Path of Exile 2, like what it's base percentages.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with no investment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's 59.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can definitely notice with much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then, but then, of course, that's on a normal enemy, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So with zero investment, like, oh, man, I'd have to uncheck a butt load here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't actually carry exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you care.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You brought it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 12% is what I'm going to guess under your face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So 59% on a unique turns to 14%.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I was close.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then if you add 14% to 14%, heightened curses slow potency, then it goes to 22%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See what you just talked about though, do you could still do a curse and your investment into the curse is the supports you're giving it versus points on the tree?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because for sure, you can get a lot out of those supports and still have not put anything into the

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[SPEAKER_00]: and still get quite a big benefit from it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then meanwhile, hopefully doing something into survivability or damage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But with just supports on a unique self-cast did not blast me, you're at 22%.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Perfect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's 22% slow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With the three clusters, I'm using 22 turns to 32.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's inconceivable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you could not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't not think of no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do not think that means what you think it means.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But wait for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am using what is this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: 6 plus...

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[SPEAKER_01]: 11 17 notes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot of lettuce.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but I would never, ever, ever, like you should see the numbers for blasphemy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are incredibly low.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it is not worth using without, to, in my opinion, it's not worth using without investment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I only think the benefit of blasphemy is if you're gaining something out of that curse, like something out of killing a curse enemy or something else, but blasphemy is awesome because you never think about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I did play with blasphemy and time change, and I did like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still noticeable, but I don't like the spirit costs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where I have more of a problem with inverses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's how much is going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially if you go like heightened curse increases that by 30%.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Slow potent, see doesn't, but that's that's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so with heightened curse, it's instead of 60 costs 84 Spirit, which is, that's a lot of water, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you double that for two curses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, so this is with blasphemy, all right, and this is with the 17 nodes and then the two supports, or just just the one support heightened curse, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is in feeble, all right, in feeble, with all that investment is 20% with blasphemy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if I take off the 17 nodes, it's 15%.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's against a unique though, and I actually wouldn't be using it against a unique, like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and the soap still decent hang on though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is hang on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You might be convincing me and I hate it when you do this because you already did that last episode What was it 20% oh no, we're not doing it against you unique.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do it against a rare 28% with investment 28 to 28.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can remember that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 21.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You win

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[SPEAKER_01]: 37% is the only percent for 17 notes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that's blasphemy like blasphemy has Yeah, big reductions, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they have the reductions against Unix or Rare's and all that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and I get it like I'm not I don't really disagree with the math I disagree kind of with how much value there is against Unix based on how much you're invest

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Blast for me should never reduce it at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm already paying spirit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of agree or the penalty should be less.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's really strong right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't find it worth it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That being said, or is in this game or trash kind of compared to past one?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it is really well-dolled, but there's like, there's like, because they come on sectors, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Blast for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure there's a couple other out there too, but like there really isn't just the regular oras from the first game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there really just isn't a lot, so maybe that's just the idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like because it's a shared resource with minions for me, it costs a lot to want to do blast with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you might have, I'm just saying to try it just to try

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, stop convincing me of your stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm already just want to do so yeah, I've already loved C. I know you like Yes, shut up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and then what's you get it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh wait.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, hang on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was doing all that math with two or a cluster is just and we've got to start over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, we already proved it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's only in reverse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In feeble with no investment, but yes, heightened curse of support.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So always the support in feeble against a rare

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I thought it was 21% just a second ago, or we talking to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I accidentally had the or our clusters clicked Oh, check your face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's 15% versus 28%.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 15 versus 22.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's still still 7%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just just say and try or maybe throw curses in later I feel like there's so much you can do in the game though that the curses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't found them as useful

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but the gin has been fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brashto was a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, there were some comments made from last week's video, because I was at incorrect on, well, I wasn't up to date on 0.5.5.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and how they change the end game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I brought last week my frustration with how you complete the alice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you go at the fortress you have to fight the boss like six times and click on each of the corners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Apparently they changed that after 0.5.5.5.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you now go through the storyline of, you know, you still have to go to all these towers, get all the things blah blah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the first time you kill the boss,

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[SPEAKER_00]: like nothing happens, but then when you go then out into the Atlas and collect the three again, then you fight that boss again now for the real first real time and then you just boss like comes to you and it's like this is for real Z's now this is the real version of me and then apparently you just get 300 points like all the points for the rest of the Atlas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have an experience to

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[SPEAKER_00]: I filled out my Atlas in 0.5 when it first came out, it was at the time that I did it yet to fight the boss like six times to do all the different quadrants, and I did get all the points, and I have completely filled out every mini Atlas pass of tree for each of the League mechanics.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The one thing that the Atlas, I don't know, maybe this is just what they've aimed for, but what has done for me with regards to Atlas now, is it sucks?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, I'm, there's nothing unique.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's literally, like, you can maybe change these keynotables, but you're not going to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like they're not things that you're going to swap out when you're going through the Atlas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you've now just got an Atlas that everybody else has like there it's not like I have an Atlas that I'm going okay this is my my starting one my essence is early on and my but it's you just you have what everybody has it's there's nothing unique to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh I have an action game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I hope that's not the long-term solution or plan for them, but I think it's going to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just, well, that's what makes the announcement for, hey, games coming out in December, and there's no more leagues until then, that that's one of the many details that makes it so crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this isn't like the theory crafting and uniqueness in personalization, that the first game offers, and what makes the first game so great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's a buttload of complaints that people can have about the first game,

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[SPEAKER_01]: are the things that are like everything's getting changed in path too, but they're not keeping the things that everybody liked in path too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, there's definitely some things that I'm just checking with this for launch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, is it like, are you gonna have the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: If he gets 10 game change on the planet later on, like shortly later on, well I wondered that too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was actually thinking about this morning, like, is the reason that the Atlas is the way that it is right now because there's so few league mechanics that they can't have an Atlas currently that is similar to how Path of Exile 1's Atlas was, because in P.O.E.

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[SPEAKER_00]: one Atlas, you're thinking ahead of time of what mechanics do you want to play and how do you want to juice them up?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, maybe there's just not enough mechanics yet in POE 2 that that's what they're doing it that no well That means it's going mechanics.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but there will be more there will be more and so I'm trying to I'm surprised there's so many now

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just enough space.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there's anything to do for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's going to eventually end up being the whole circle around the Atlas, and then what do you do to start breaking out?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it just becomes this massive web.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just don't, I don't find there's anything unique about the end game anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's not, there's not me building my Atlas tree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my, you know how much I love that freaking out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's pass a tree in P we one like I don't get that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no planning for me at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, it's kind of like, well, okay, I'll just throw these in here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter because in a bit of time, I'm just going to have all the points.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, I guess it might not just auto fill it for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like as you complete a map, it just like, bloop moves you up to the next one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a bit odd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't know that that was a change in 0.5.25.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't like it before though either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think the before option was a good one, which was go fight this end game boss five or six times to finally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was your fastest way to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's their own fault for adding that as a feature of how you can do it quicker because the alternative is if that didn't exist, you just go and do the 300 maps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's actually fine if you piss off with the fortress.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't have the fortress as a thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Give me a point every time I complete a map.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then let me do the other stuff, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me do your bits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me do your delirium storylines or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just think the fact that they have them all separated right now is weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I found it crazy that you do one fight and you just get all the Alice points.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you just done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I don't know how I feel about that right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a big lack of uniqueness for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel like the Atlas Passive Tree is mine anymore to play with and figure out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's funny we were doing the private league that we last played for POE1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we have done a private league recently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There would have been a private league that was the last thing we did then POE1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because we haven't, we usually do them pretty quick after.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I was doing the private league and then you obviously can get the notification that you've unlocked another Atlas pass of tree, you're like, oh sick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I can like start to think through how do I want my second out of like, swallowing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't get swap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right, and you can even swap in between just because it's like, oh, sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have different, oh, shoot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What does it think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's called, um, the scarabs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, you know what, I feel like doing these scarabs and you're a whoop, swopper tree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know how I've criticized GGG for their loot, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like they're coming into this without 15 years of fine-tuning loot experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're coming into this with zero years of experience of fine-tuning loot because they never that wasn't their focus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not what they did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They in from my perspective swept it under the rug.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have

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[SPEAKER_01]: But loads of experience fine-tuning their Atlas, fine-tuning the end game, and then when they threw in the Atlas pass of tree, they had a lot of years fine-tuning that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're doing nothing with any of that experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a whole, it's such a different experience that all that they've learned and done with it doesn't matter for path too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that that has to be a purposeful decision though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you, but no, but there would be more to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, this duration.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And after the changes that they've made and things looking forward, like they announced things, like look at the last example, like they're like, okay, we have an announcement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's coming next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we weren't ready for our announcement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like they announced things crazy quick as soon as it's like okay we're out of the meeting let's let's announce it that's what it seems like so it's just i love that end game in path one and maybe that's just what's making this path to experience unfair or why we're relatively negative towards it or why we don't enjoy it

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[SPEAKER_01]: Granted every single path one to every single path one player is going to have a comparison.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just how it works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you like the book version or do you like the movie version better?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't matter pick one, but you know people are always gonna have a preference so far For me it's very easily hands down path one like yourself

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[SPEAKER_01]: And 100% and I'm not as into the Atlas Pass of Trio as you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just like the Alcango experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Alcango experience eventually is going to be in care way more to my preference in path 2 than it is path 1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Simply because they actually care about modifier combinations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, they've started doing that more on our gear, more on enemies, more compared with base types and including.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and draws are better as you get up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like they definitely have done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they've definitely even in previous patch notes of said we've removed these modifiers for the specific manuals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like that to me is

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as we have to as always going to be the better game for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just getting that QOL attention.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the eh good luck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And but in terms of like the fine tuning and honing of the actual mechanics.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that end game Justin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: past one like it's a role playing game and I a role playing game typically means let me let me um let me build a tree let me build my character let me build my experience like I don't get that out of this current version of pui 2's end game and I like even the first iteration of their alice at least had some variants like

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[SPEAKER_00]: You couldn't fill out the whole tree you had to make a decision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I personally like this idea of like, you just play in your filled-a-hole thing out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a fan of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you want to do that, they don't...

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[SPEAKER_00]: do that as something that's extra, that's happening as I play it, but still give me my way of sort of customizing what I want the endgame to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I was wrong about what I said thus we got in, I didn't really say change it was 0.5.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have found that out and would have been on here going like, what the frick, I just got 300 points in 1 and 5, like what would have happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I ended up not going back to play, I thought I'd need to do something else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There wasn't anything for me to do right now in endgame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wasn't going to do anything for you guys to experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You played no end sky?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's sky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you notice we're matching?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at us in blue shirts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just saw that expensive camera that I bought my wife probably just has a really crappy color this is actually green It's purple aqua aqua well, let's bluish to me Yeah, yeah, it ain't blue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I played some nomads guy big update lots of fun played on the controller But I remember when that game was announced and he was on stage and he's like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah, I'm gonna do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I shouldn't do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna get so much trouble for doing this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna do this and he's just picked a random planet and went to it Maybe it was all staged, but he picked a random planet and it didn't crash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, oh, that was worth it Like he was just like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It should have crashed like I have no idea which planets are working right now or not because it was just one of those like massive It came out horribly Human skies release was Brutal was a cyberpunk version of a release.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just That's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like five people that made it as opposed to a massive company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true, which

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then to their credit, holy crap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When they fix their game, the amount of updates that those guys are coming out with and we're still like years and years later, and these are massive updates.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These aren't small updates.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Isn't RPG?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a more just like an exploration action game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a survival exploration style like to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're not because you add Path of Exile to Space.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a new podcast, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's it'll be forever exiled from Path of Exile because Space will hook me in every time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a final game because you can just do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Space ship.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever you want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never beat it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea how the game ends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every time I've played it, I play it for hours, and then I just stop and play something else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in those hours, I've never done the same thing twice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's just so much to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here that GGG?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Never done the same thing twice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I keep doing the same thing over and over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Same paths on the at on the path.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to do the atlas again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to do it again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually not fun to complete my atlas right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so a time consuming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, but then what's the excitement next league?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You are like, well, but so let's pretend path to is completely out.

57:26.833 --> 57:30.896
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's pretend, you know, we're not going through the trial and error phases anymore.

57:30.936 --> 57:33.297
[SPEAKER_01]: They've got their stuff with the two and one point.

57:33.357 --> 57:38.681
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exact full real word with a real definition, full release.

57:38.701 --> 57:39.461
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still in the way.

57:39.481 --> 57:39.942
[SPEAKER_01]: So I go ahead.

57:41.163 --> 57:42.043
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember.

57:44.365 --> 57:44.685
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

57:44.925 --> 57:46.326
[SPEAKER_01]: What's your reason for coming back?

57:46.386 --> 57:48.708
[SPEAKER_01]: Like even if the league sucked,

57:50.545 --> 57:52.746
[SPEAKER_01]: you would be so excited to hit in.

57:52.826 --> 57:53.487
[SPEAKER_01]: I would play every time.

57:53.767 --> 57:54.808
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same of how you're talking about.

57:55.108 --> 58:07.956
[SPEAKER_01]: But because of the unique experience, your new build with your new Atlas pass of tree, even if you ended up choosing the same Atlas pass of tree, that was because you're like, yes, I want to do this experience with this new character.

58:08.456 --> 58:10.858
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you looking forward to now with the new league?

58:11.538 --> 58:14.541
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, all contents out now, all these sentences, all your weapons, all your skills.

58:14.561 --> 58:20.486
[SPEAKER_01]: So, what are you now looking forward to when your end game is the same route as past Trio over and over.

58:21.006 --> 58:26.011
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so the truth is, my Atlas pass of Trio isn't ever what brings me back to playing a path of Excel one league.

58:26.231 --> 58:31.556
[SPEAKER_00]: It's always just that there's something new, whether that's most of the time the league mechanic or some balance changes.

58:32.076 --> 58:51.366
[SPEAKER_00]: But my process for why I come to back to POE 2 is I can tell you it's the same every single time and it's just the Excitement of starting new character seeing loot drop on the ground seeing what you're gonna find trying to figure out a way to play a build that can do things at a quickly or really strong for bosses, and I think that will still That will still be the case for me for POE 2.

58:51.666 --> 58:53.147
[SPEAKER_00]: What's always been the difference

58:53.787 --> 58:59.129
[SPEAKER_00]: For POE 1, and we'll be for POE 2 is, is your endgame engaging enough for me to want to keep playing it?

58:59.729 --> 59:03.750
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that idle ever burn out in POE 1 during the campaign.

59:04.010 --> 59:04.170
[SPEAKER_00]: Ever.

59:04.210 --> 59:06.031
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never, ever stopped in the late night.

59:06.051 --> 59:06.691
[SPEAKER_00]: This isn't for me.

59:07.011 --> 59:10.592
[SPEAKER_00]: It's always been into endgame and then I just get bored or whatever.

59:11.132 --> 59:12.953
[SPEAKER_00]: POE 2 is going to do the exact same thing.

59:12.993 --> 59:15.113
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no doubt that it's going to be a cyclical game for me.

59:15.133 --> 59:19.435
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to play for maybe a month, and then I'm going to move on to the next thing until they come out with something else.

59:19.755 --> 59:20.095
[SPEAKER_00]: But...

59:21.118 --> 59:27.946
[SPEAKER_00]: The current version of the Atlas is just more, it's grinding for the sake of grinding.

59:28.026 --> 59:30.649
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not, I don't know, I just don't feel the same.

59:31.932 --> 59:35.055
[SPEAKER_00]: to open mean rush as I would get in purely one.

59:35.075 --> 59:49.146
[SPEAKER_00]: When I unlock a new Atlas pass of point, to when I unlock a new Atlas pass of tree, those weren't things that pulled me back into playing path, but they were certainly the things that determined how long I was going to remain into the end game for.

59:50.287 --> 59:55.752
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I mean, it doesn't matter to me what they come out with each league or each release.

59:55.792 --> 59:56.712
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm definitely going to play.

59:56.732 --> 59:59.294
[SPEAKER_00]: It just depends on for how long and that's where the end game kicks in.

59:59.635 --> 01:00:01.056
[SPEAKER_00]: Like what are they doing to the end game?

01:00:01.957 --> 01:00:02.098
[SPEAKER_01]: eh.

01:00:04.021 --> 01:00:06.745
[SPEAKER_00]: Good points, mole frayer, good points.

01:00:07.607 --> 01:00:11.353
[SPEAKER_00]: It's weird though that we're not going to have anything to December.

01:00:11.894 --> 01:00:13.036
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the only of zero point three point.

01:00:13.417 --> 01:00:15.180
[SPEAKER_00]: Three or something or three point three?

01:00:16.704 --> 01:00:18.325
[SPEAKER_00]: That's private league stuff for me, man.

01:00:18.905 --> 01:00:20.866
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be playing it.

01:00:21.026 --> 01:00:24.687
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a weird release because obviously people are going to be excited for something new.

01:00:24.727 --> 01:00:26.448
[SPEAKER_01]: But anybody that's excited for path 2.

01:00:26.608 --> 01:00:29.049
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, that's close to path 2.

01:00:30.090 --> 01:00:35.232
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything you're doing is like, I don't know, it's just weird when you're so close to something you're that excited about.

01:00:36.332 --> 01:00:41.935
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm curious what I'm going to do if it's going to be more of an event style league, or if they're going to try and add something that's going to

01:00:42.695 --> 01:00:44.677
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, are they making that league?

01:00:44.897 --> 01:00:45.998
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's just curiosity.

01:00:46.038 --> 01:00:48.379
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think there's a right or wrong way to go about it.

01:00:48.399 --> 01:00:59.748
[SPEAKER_01]: But that last path one league before the official completely full release of path two is that path one league going to be made for path one players.

01:01:00.088 --> 01:01:06.313
[SPEAKER_01]: No matter how path two comes out or is that made for path two players just to satiate them until the release of the game.

01:01:06.333 --> 01:01:08.194
[SPEAKER_00]: It's definitely made for path of Excel one players.

01:01:08.574 --> 01:01:11.657
[SPEAKER_00]: I think what it'll be curious to see is do they take risks?

01:01:12.337 --> 01:01:26.540
[SPEAKER_00]: and try and make something new, like a new mechanic or something new endgame-wise, because you can't have it be a bad release two months before your, right, especially because your last six months have been a bust.

01:01:27.020 --> 01:01:27.600
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you can't.

01:01:27.620 --> 01:01:28.700
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, not for path one.

01:01:28.740 --> 01:01:29.780
[SPEAKER_00]: Path one came out with a good one.

01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:32.261
[SPEAKER_00]: He's lastly up right yet, but in terms of path two, right?

01:01:32.281 --> 01:01:38.362
[SPEAKER_00]: Well path two, it would look bad for them to have a league where they were struggling or things were not working.

01:01:38.382 --> 01:01:38.902
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

01:01:39.182 --> 01:02:01.452
[SPEAKER_00]: just before they're about to go into the period too really so I would imagine it's probably I don't be interested to see if they come up with like actual new end game and league mechanics kudos like that's balls because if you don't come up with that correctly it could suck wouldn't that be hilarious if they come up with something that's just so and the player base is like oh my goodness this is amazing and then that is what revamp's path to Zen game

01:02:02.172 --> 01:02:05.895
[SPEAKER_01]: Has something to do in something relation and something that blows their mind?

01:02:05.935 --> 01:02:06.936
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that would be funny.

01:02:06.956 --> 01:02:07.817
[SPEAKER_01]: Do I know what my soul?

01:02:08.137 --> 01:02:08.457
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, go ahead.

01:02:08.477 --> 01:02:08.997
[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.

01:02:09.258 --> 01:02:10.519
[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to tell you before.

01:02:10.539 --> 01:02:11.099
[SPEAKER_00]: I was too.

01:02:11.559 --> 01:02:12.900
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you were a member of yours, because I will.

01:02:13.681 --> 01:02:16.543
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but only because it's about my obsession.

01:02:16.563 --> 01:02:17.104
[SPEAKER_00]: So go ahead.

01:02:17.504 --> 01:02:26.991
[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say my favorite event that they did in the past is going to weigh back in purely one was they did this event where you were teleported into a zone where they were like,

01:02:28.024 --> 01:02:33.371
[SPEAKER_00]: 10 or 20 other players and you basically were fighting against each other and one one died.

01:02:33.391 --> 01:02:46.847
[SPEAKER_00]: The battle royale loot and then they you'd pick up all that it was one of my favorites but they did it for the battle royale or is it the battle royale so this I think they've done it twice but I'm going all the way way way way back cuz

01:02:48.468 --> 01:03:05.076
[SPEAKER_00]: Now that you're saying that now that I'm saying it, I do remember one where they actually had like this countdown, but even before that way further back than that, there was another one where you were just it didn't I remember it not having a countdown and you were just in the zone and you were fighting against people, but I always found those fun in in Path of Exile 1 to just

01:03:06.637 --> 01:03:10.020
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the event that I really liked though was before wait.

01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:11.601
[SPEAKER_00]: It was even further before.

01:03:11.661 --> 01:03:23.090
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember you would just zone into an area And you'd have to figure out like how many people you up against and how strong was everybody else and then when somebody died, they dropped all their stuff But that's cool Maybe it was just the Battle Royale one.

01:03:23.110 --> 01:03:31.396
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know maybe I remember when the Battle Royale was announced it was announced on April Fool's day But then they went forward with it and actually it was originally an April Fool's joke and then they went forward with it

01:03:32.177 --> 01:03:50.092
[SPEAKER_01]: But anytime you just talk about PVP, I always think about Leo, Leo, the old masters, like if you were doing dot, you had to do like the first few levels of PVP ton lock like the extra 10% of was it dot mitigation.

01:03:50.372 --> 01:03:53.214
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was was it mitigation or offensive mitigation.

01:03:53.234 --> 01:03:56.917
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think it was more of a requirement for RF players if I remember correctly.

01:03:56.957 --> 01:03:58.979
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, still hate Leo.

01:03:59.799 --> 01:04:01.340
[SPEAKER_01]: I would put him in a cage, man.

01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:02.401
[SPEAKER_01]: I love that they still get it.

01:04:02.421 --> 01:04:03.021
[SPEAKER_01]: It's an act three.

01:04:03.041 --> 01:04:03.742
[SPEAKER_00]: He was in a cage.

01:04:04.202 --> 01:04:07.064
[SPEAKER_00]: You can still walk up the stairs to where that is.

01:04:07.204 --> 01:04:07.925
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's funny.

01:04:07.945 --> 01:04:09.025
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that is very cool.

01:04:09.346 --> 01:04:13.528
[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if who knows what we're going to be coming out with for path 2, right?

01:04:13.568 --> 01:04:16.110
[SPEAKER_01]: But we're revisiting some locations and things like that.

01:04:16.150 --> 01:04:17.411
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think I meant for PVP.

01:04:17.591 --> 01:04:20.093
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you mean, what are they going to do for PVP and PVP or we too?

01:04:21.734 --> 01:04:28.616
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be kind of cool if you end up going into the same arena, but it's different or whatever it would be.

01:04:28.676 --> 01:04:29.717
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:04:29.737 --> 01:04:32.858
[SPEAKER_01]: To me, it's just never been a PvP game, so I wouldn't understand it, but.

01:04:33.658 --> 01:04:38.520
[SPEAKER_01]: And it hurts you for making me think about even more about curses now.

01:04:38.580 --> 01:04:39.881
[SPEAKER_01]: Just try it tight, just try it.

01:04:39.941 --> 01:04:40.641
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's wrap this up.

01:04:40.661 --> 01:04:42.181
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't fix my problem though.

01:04:42.241 --> 01:04:43.262
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, what were you telling me about me?

01:04:45.155 --> 01:04:49.439
[SPEAKER_01]: You were going to say, oh, come on, you said you would remember, you said something about your sessions.

01:04:50.499 --> 01:04:58.646
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, maybe I curse you about curses, but it still doesn't fix my, I won't blast for me, but then also permanent minions.

01:04:58.726 --> 01:05:02.409
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to toggle blasphemy and permanent minions with me in instability.

01:05:03.090 --> 01:05:06.172
[SPEAKER_01]: So, but it does actually give me a free time for C.

01:05:08.194 --> 01:05:08.414
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:05:08.494 --> 01:05:10.676
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm just not in like weapon swapping.

01:05:11.296 --> 01:05:11.816
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:05:12.637 --> 01:05:14.938
[SPEAKER_01]: I could still have to go in and manually just like, okay.

01:05:15.779 --> 01:05:16.319
[SPEAKER_00]: Blast me.

01:05:16.339 --> 01:05:19.061
[SPEAKER_00]: It's time to turn off now.

01:05:19.081 --> 01:05:20.241
[SPEAKER_00]: I see what you're saying.

01:05:20.281 --> 01:05:25.304
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, unless you tied another skill to that weapon set that would that would keep you yeah.

01:05:34.378 --> 01:05:36.079
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I don't know.

01:05:36.479 --> 01:05:37.580
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I want three layouts.

01:05:37.620 --> 01:05:38.380
[SPEAKER_01]: I want three trees.

01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:39.701
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you don't want to ask me.

01:05:40.061 --> 01:05:41.882
[SPEAKER_00]: If you really think about it, you don't want blasphemy.

01:05:42.362 --> 01:05:50.386
[SPEAKER_01]: What I really want is to go all the way down to the mercenary, where I can have, what is it, the whole passive tree is swappable?

01:05:51.427 --> 01:05:52.007
[SPEAKER_01]: Who has that?

01:05:52.787 --> 01:05:53.768
[SPEAKER_01]: What is swappable?

01:05:54.220 --> 01:05:54.540
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

01:05:54.661 --> 01:05:55.201
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a guy.

01:05:56.042 --> 01:05:57.143
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a guy.

01:05:57.383 --> 01:05:57.944
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a guy.

01:05:58.044 --> 01:05:58.585
[SPEAKER_01]: I know a guy.

01:05:58.985 --> 01:05:59.225
[SPEAKER_01]: No.

01:06:00.086 --> 01:06:00.327
[SPEAKER_01]: No.

01:06:00.867 --> 01:06:01.107
[SPEAKER_01]: No.

01:06:01.728 --> 01:06:02.769
[SPEAKER_01]: No.

01:06:03.490 --> 01:06:03.710
[SPEAKER_01]: No.

01:06:04.511 --> 01:06:04.731
[SPEAKER_01]: No.

01:06:05.092 --> 01:06:05.993
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the witch hunter.

01:06:06.093 --> 01:06:06.833
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes, there it is.

01:06:07.354 --> 01:06:10.417
[SPEAKER_01]: Hundred passive skill points become weapon sweats.

01:06:10.798 --> 01:06:12.159
[SPEAKER_01]: weapon set skill points.

01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:13.220
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I see.

01:06:13.240 --> 01:06:13.661
[SPEAKER_01]: weapon.

01:06:14.161 --> 01:06:14.722
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, stir.

01:06:15.362 --> 01:06:18.685
[SPEAKER_01]: And how many nodes would it take to become that?

01:06:18.785 --> 01:06:24.070
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, only 22 nodes There you go.

01:06:24.430 --> 01:06:25.891
[SPEAKER_01]: Better spent than your curse stuff.

01:06:26.732 --> 01:06:26.892
[SPEAKER_01]: No.

01:06:28.413 --> 01:06:37.141
[SPEAKER_01]: The amount of damage you get, like if you do exposure and elemental weakness and you have invested in curses, your boss is like negative hundred something.

01:06:37.481 --> 01:06:39.102
[SPEAKER_01]: But at a certain point, you don't need it.

01:06:39.202 --> 01:06:45.626
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the damage you can get if you didn't do that is outwane, I think, what you're getting out of that.

01:06:45.766 --> 01:06:48.047
[SPEAKER_01]: I have almost all the minion damage notes already.

01:06:49.008 --> 01:06:53.470
[SPEAKER_01]: So it would be adding it to like, allowing a little bit more room for CI.

01:06:53.731 --> 01:07:04.337
[SPEAKER_01]: Except the frustrating thing is I'm like, it's CI is so like energy shield, actually increasing energy shield, then getting the CI node, I'm going past all those notes already.

01:07:05.423 --> 01:07:08.052
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but you need a lot of the energy shield stuff.

01:07:08.072 --> 01:07:11.625
[SPEAKER_00]: The thing is, you don't need some of the, because you just, you convalescence is amazing.

01:07:12.929 --> 01:07:14.410
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I could just go good.

01:07:15.470 --> 01:07:18.092
[SPEAKER_01]: So long ago, I have a high base on the lessons here.

01:07:18.832 --> 01:07:19.393
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, everybody.

01:07:19.473 --> 01:07:20.954
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's wrap this up face forever.

01:07:21.014 --> 01:07:21.674
[SPEAKER_00]: Excel 3652.

01:07:21.734 --> 01:07:22.855
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just naked tax.

01:07:23.135 --> 01:07:24.195
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm Tyler record of this.

01:07:24.836 --> 01:07:26.257
[SPEAKER_00]: Patrons will see you in after dark everybody else.

01:07:26.277 --> 01:07:27.317
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01:07:27.517 --> 01:07:29.558
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