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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Forever XL them just make a text and I'm Tyler record days like mid-talking I realized it defaulted to the layout of really wide and I wanted you up closer, you know It's over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh wait I can change that now What is this three hundred fifty one forever XL welcome big show to our patreon Thanks everybody who resubbed of this week patreon gets to access to afterdark It's a podcast after the podcast And we appreciate the support

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, friend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's your name?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, you're Mono.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Mono.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I must be having a fog tomorrow and you asked me on my week list.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did a week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a good week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, kids are done school.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Kids are done school.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Man awards ceremonies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: feel so good for your kid if they get in the ward.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what's like for people anywhere else, but they give.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like when Justin went to his second son's ward ceremony where it was like eight hours long and they give awards to kids for breathing throughout the year, but there's still like two hours long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's funny, sorry, just because I grew through, but it's funny how you can see the difference between teachers because

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like one teacher will go up and half of the class at least half the class comes up and then another teacher comes up and like four kids come up And I'm like that I want that teacher.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't they were actually really good with that this year and this year the PE teacher even made a joke about He was told that he had to keep his speech with him a certain time limit like oh, I I use the terror words ceremony because he does talk a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, and it's like they give awards for kids that do like multiple sports.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like yeah, and not well, just Just just just be Put it was so funny I felt so my daughter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't know what makes her stand out to her teachers with everything else But she she got the perseverance award again for the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good for her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was so mad

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, because this year they started giving out plaques for some of the bigger ones, but yeah, and she's like dad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so tired of getting the perseverance, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: The trying hard one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, well, what's wrong?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like so many kids try hard in your teachers, like they chose you over all the other kids.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like dad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't come with a plaque.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they only banned us because it was like how do I get student of the year and not a plaque or student of whatever she got.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what it was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was funny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll all ever got the citizen ship award for the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sweet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he was, he was all happy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he had that kind of like the same attitude.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, that you're supposed to be nice to people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's so funny the attitudes they came on with, but they were both like obviously happy too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it was pretty funny, but we had a good week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They all did like all that fun stuff this week, like movies and a lake and just all that fun stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's been a really cool week today's the first day off as it is, of course, for yours as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it begins now, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Summer time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, summertime, then we had a good time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My mom came over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was out with my sister-in-law and we were getting our dogs together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have a new puppy as well, and so we're getting our dogs together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They could practice being around each other and not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, the idiot part was still there, but it's good training on the less.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My mom came over, she asked, of course I had a time, but she came over ahead of time, just to do some gardening for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I always feel weird when that happens, but it's one of those things where it's like, you know, someone else is doing the work that my wife and I could be doing in the garden, but she's just doing it out, but right, that's how she gives, that's how she does gifts is just by offering her work and so it's funny, and my dog being a barreling

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[SPEAKER_02]: pile of idiot after he sees my mom just goes like sprinting towards her super excited but just completely knocks her over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, like she can't do that anymore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A little things that I forget about and you still have in a small dog, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, awesome week, but nothing much to report.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Drag that on as long as I could for you and it's still only four minutes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm mind's gonna take us all even six minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was good, and a year, so with a lot of dance recitals and graduate, I saw my niece graduate from high school, which was cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, hi, I did that click late for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a lot of work and then played Spatvex.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but the week was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we did, uh, uh, yes, funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You were talking about like we had to go to an awards thing to, I don't know how teachers are teach because I'm sitting there going like, I'm going to go tell like to shut up because he's driving me nuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to like yell in the teachers for letting the kids they just sit with them for so long but it's like they can't do it right there they're probably just like well they can't do much anyway it's pretty sad 47 and a half more hours yeah right no anyway we did that they did a long dance so it'll go into my girl's dance or so it'll so that was fun and uh we're like I don't know where we're at in fringe but we're working through the first season of fringe are you do you skip the intro

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[SPEAKER_02]: because it shouldn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why would you go to the intro?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, not the, like, you know how you can skip credits and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't know what it's like on totally illegal.com, but on the other sites, you know, when they go and start, like, you know, when, like, Game of Thrones had like a 10 hour intro, where it's done, then, then, then, then, then, then you could skip it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't skip that non-elegal.com, do you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what illegal.com is because I would never do illegal.com, but no, I would never, I watched the intro or one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Watch, that's like the worst set on the planet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I should probably have before I start collecting random sites.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go and type it in, oh my goodness, I can't believe Tyler, I was here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, you don't skip that, do you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's short and the song is awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It also has stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that sort of has come, I don't know, it's very, you know, I like stuff like that where I'm, you don't know if it's half an triangle, but it's also got five fingers, which took me a long time to notice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can't, because it comes up for such a short time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also the apple, there's little fetuses inside the apple.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a flower with a bird on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just saw some butterfly stuff happen in one episode and it's the same as this butterfly that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that butterfly episode's pretty memorable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so we're going to that, and then I am on book three of Dungeon Crawler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just can't pick on bigger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's some more expensive and more expensive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they've got more expensive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if the price was much different, but it's just like, I read him bed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's dangerous, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You need like your shoulder bracelet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, you know, like really locked in and you're like, don't fall asleep, don't fall asleep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I know, otherwise the week, it's been good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been really busy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be really busy now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can's coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what happened, but somehow weekends are just gross for the next little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Anyway, and And then I played path of exile.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've heard of path of exile.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I too have played that game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What a queen-kidding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, cool

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry about that, um, just not to do with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Something quick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you notice the Alan Wake?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did see that and I was trying to figure out who put that there was at you at least.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, I mean, what was her?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like books.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like stories, but nobody likes that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, but this is the Alan Wake special edition.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry for you audio only listeners.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am showing Justin with social.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a book, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like this is the special edition case

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[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, and then you open it up and then that's a small little graphic novel, but then also a game style case for the CD cool, but it looks like a novel because it's about an author.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's way better than that blue thing behind it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, sorry, I just wanted to before we get into PO retalker.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you doing anything for Kennedy?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I might be working.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I might be heading out to one of my own.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like on July 5, I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't that like a send or something?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The 11th Commandment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'll say my prayers beforehand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, but otherwise, just no, I don't have any plans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not driving first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we just kill.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're party poopers, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I was thinking so Kids went out to one of the lakes one of one of my kids went out to one of the lakes with their class Like the whole school goes as a big year-end thing and I'm like And he's like oh well, it's like there's gonna have snacks in PJs and watch a movie He's like I'd rather do that even though like going to the lake and I'm like in my head I'm like, you know what go like It's not like we're gonna go there anytime soon as a family kind of thing So go and enjoy it even if there's other things you'd rather do

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[SPEAKER_02]: And in my head, I'm like, you really don't go out of our way to do that kind of stuff like that and my, like, he really doesn't go that often.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we do have a busy summer and for good reason, penny pinching summer to, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Got the excel con coming up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Got a camping trip that's just the four of us and two trips to a Soyuz.

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[SPEAKER_02]: something else but they're like the standard things not New Zealand of course but we're like cutting down on the other things but really got to make sure that we we figure something out you know like do actually do stuff you know what I mean so the Canada Day like which is a great time for that right if I suck up a little bit more it's already the 26 that's like five days away of six days away but

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know like the maybe there's a parade or something like that that the kids could be like and too old for this But we did just to get out and do something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe there's something going on at a matter of fair or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway stuff like that like every now and then there's like a fair in town with fairs wheel and all that and I'm like Charm down on Facebook.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean so

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, but happy Canada day to the entire world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's very important that you all feel loved on Canada day today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can Canada, so congratulations and walker our newest patron and extra special Canadian happy Canada day to you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're not Canadian, you're extra welcome because you are extra don't just give those out for free.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Free passports.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Free.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you seen the new passports?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pardon me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you seen the new Canadian passports?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't we they are actually pretty cool looking are they yeah we just had to do I got one when we went LA but that's that was a year thing so yeah we just did Christina's this year and all the kids mind was still good but they're nice they're like very fancy like that's what we're paying for okay

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice job, I see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now that's really cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You saw a buddy of ours when we went to go get the kids.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A buddy of ours was at the greeting booth and all business.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just all business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You see the recognition in the eyes, but then it's like a little bunch of serious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Except I love it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He wasn't in the front booth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was in the front booth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was working with somebody and we got pulled in with somebody else and then he started to walk by.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was walking with someone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I always enjoy because you hear the comments about life at work, right, and what people, all the good, and all the bad, and it's always fun when you actually see somebody at work, going through it all, and you know what they're thinking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm, yeah, it's fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Always fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, anyway, thank you everybody for listening.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Happy Canada Day to everybody, but especially 111% congratulations.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not congratulations.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What have you said to people?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Happy Canada Day to Walker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you watch the Kennedy game?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Canada and Swittilling game?

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[SPEAKER_02]: The Kennedy Swiss one, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had to watch, unfortunately, if when I had to get the highlights on for the World Cup was the guitar game where we won six nothing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a crazy game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it was really cool seeing the guy who broke his leg in the guitar game getting cheered on and the Swiss game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's nice for Canada to be able to move on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to the knockout round.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was able to see Brazil play, which it's not normally, but I enjoy seeing them play even before I went to live there for a while, they were always a very exciting country to watch in my favorite.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Roberto Carlos, who obviously hasn't played in forever, but he's what really got me into that tier of of the sport kind of thing because so many it like that soccer is just one of those things where there's just an infinite amount of leagues with so much talent across the board, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, um, pretty cool to see it all happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm enjoying it, but it's nice how how well the Canadian team plays in Vancouver as opposed to Toronto.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's pretty fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoy that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I, we talk about like as a conucks fan in hockey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We always talk about like how other teams just don't get the struggles of travel because the conucks of West Coast have like they have to travel so far even just within their division to like Edmonton and Calgary and LA and San Jose.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's just, it's just a lot of travel whereas when you're on the east coast, you know, all these like Jersey, New York, Toronto, Buffalo,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's all super close together right and right and so there's just that extra hurdle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to deal with as somebody who plays on the Pacific coast, especially Vancouver or Seattle, and I was thinking about that with the world cup this this week because it's like man like I can go play down and Brazil and then they're gonna go up and play in LA and then they have something to do in Toronto and it's like

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's quite the turnaround.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's quite the travel, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, did you watch it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did, yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I find it quite cool watching the world cup thinking about the fact that it's going on in like six different cities at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just find that the organization behind that has to be insane.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, I've seen her videos on how F1 teams deal with it later.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They send some of the parts, you know, to three races away right because of how long it takes and some of them are going by air.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of them going by ship and of course with the whole stuff going on with some of the wars and some straights being closed down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, okay, well now how do we do it and deal with it and why some teams have done poorly in some weekends because their parts weren't ready because of some of the shenanigans going on the straights.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All that kind of stuff, but then

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[SPEAKER_02]: You do that for like but you come kind of have a system with it to you know what I mean Whereas you have to world cup which is once every four years and you just like I started thinking about how like what you said how crazy that must be

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[SPEAKER_02]: and whoever it is, so far it seems like on the front there that it's run crazy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very curious to see what's gone on in some of the communities that I know in the past some world cup situations, some of these countries have just gone and basically wiped out a favela to create more for the, you know, like the situation that they're preparing for for the world cup and so there's a lot of

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[SPEAKER_02]: tragic stories behind the scenes from what I I'm curious to see if anything would like if any new stadiums needed to be built for this I didn't the world kind of surprised me this year busy with personal things this year and so normally I'm on top of it just out of curiosity no it's important for me to know but it's just an old is important to know yeah I agree anyway my

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I got to figure out a way for my dog to piss on my driveway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Change its food, make some weird chemical thing happen inside of its stomach so that it doesn't ruin your lawn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot of yellow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot of yellow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I needed to go pee in that forest you're building on the left hand side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I could make that the pee lawn.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's my lawn update.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It would be green if I didn't have a puppy that I love dearly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just see all the spots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we got a lot of you know it's weird though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It changed as she got older because that used to happen for us as well and it doesn't I don't know what

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's something, when there are puppies when they're smaller, I don't know if something changes, or maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did not feed her the chemical stuff to make my lawn stay green.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the guy I do it for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Cool, dropped her off and she came back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Clean as a whistle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, POI for one did not intend to not talk about Path of Exile for so long because Jue has Muitu to say, okay, good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what happened this week?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just looking through your notes real quick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they announced and released.4, so 0.5.4 came out this week, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They had a bunch of hot fixes 4.3 after our episode, which is awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they had the announcement of.4, which dealt with a lot more like end game touch-ups and then

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[SPEAKER_02]: released point four and then they've had some hot fixes for that and then they're announcement then they had two other announcements which were I'm calling it the fresher event again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's trials of the ants at no ancient One on P we one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep is starting up soon and then they also have a pseudo announcement with the point four announcement for path two was that there's not gonna be another big patch for like a month

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[SPEAKER_02]: and then it's going to be a 0.5, then it's going to be 0.5, but they didn't really say what 0.5 is going to be about, but that was actually really exciting for me with all the stuff that I can read into it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, what was the stuff you were reading into?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, people that have been listening to us for a while will know that the debate has just gone in the opposite direction that I was hoping for to be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I would have preferred having like what's been released as getting worked on and comes though, you know, one act at a time, skills at a time, coming out, coming out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then for the most part, it's just been like the same ascendancies, same skills, and it's just been tough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: An interesting to get through because the end game,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love the theory crafting of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love the option.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm you know, I'm I'm disappointed it's not really a criticism because at some point You have to make a choice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They made a choice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just different than what I would have voted for at the business table as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The business table at the table as well But I would have preferred you know building from the beginning of the game back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They built from the back forward and that's fine It's just I haven't been the things that I are am excited about like a send-and-season skills

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so looking forward to all of that, but to me now, like they've done their touch-ups, they've done the endgame, Jonathan's focus, and it's just prior to beta was officially released.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh shoot, we really need people to play the endgame, we really need there to be a good replay ability for them at the end, and so that's just been a really big focus for them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it seems like this, I wouldn't know any better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just reading the posts the same as everyone else, but it seems to me like, okay, we finally made these final tweaks to the end game that we've just recently really revamped and switched up and now questing works and all this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like we've made this rewarding.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's now in a place where we hope think after some tweaks that this is good for you, short term but long term.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can play it, there's a good replayability, there's a good reason to play it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now we can focus on something else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of what this seemed like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you know what I mean, okay, we've had three quick, big patches, mostly end game oriented.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now we're gonna take a month off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a month off, of course, but it's like now we're taking that break from end game and refocusing on the other things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's how I read it, whether that's coming out and releasing a new content like acts or ascendancies or going back and kind of focusing on how the interaction of all these different skills.

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[SPEAKER_02]: that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's how I read it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the stuff that I've been hoping these last two years would have been about to begin with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So to me, I have a lot of excitement going forward for what's coming for the rest of beta.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm hoping it's coming out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hoping the things that interest me come up before one point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure that the, um, I wouldn't even be able to have much of a guess as to what that 0.5 is and I think you had mentioned to me that they said that they were doing a market reset as well, like it'll be a full reset, like a league would be, which is fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they should do whatever they want, but, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The thing that's interesting is that the 0.4 release, which was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The 0.4 patch was so good and it has made expedition like now I get expedition like there's a purpose to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a benefit to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've made the remnants better, rerolling remnants, but a lot of what they came up with in the 0.4 patch to me was like stuff that they surely just did not have time to finish for the really

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[SPEAKER_01]: they couldn't have been afterthoughts, like it's a whole tree for the ruins of a door.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, in the atlas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a whole, I mean, maybe some of the things like the ability to re-roll remnants, which I think all they did, that it's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it kind of feels like point four was their catch-up, like they're fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with you to some degree, like they finally caught up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know for me if I'd be like, okay, they go like end games, fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's focus on the other stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, sure, sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The thing that we curious, I mean, I would rather than do that too because I want more stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want more characters, I want more extensions, I want more weapon types for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, melee is just very blit right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, I want some of your basically just at maces and quarterstaffs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have stuff on the tree for axes and they don't exist in the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's some weapon types that are in the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That don't have like what is it quarterstaffs there's like nothing for quarterstaffs on the tree that's specific to quarterstaffs if I remember correctly But there's stuff for axes like with quarterstaffs I believe it's just the tags of the skills that you can invest in whereas with axes, which aren't even in the game yet There's actually some clusters Yeah, but to go quickly to your point because I will forget it

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for them to come out with the Runes of Aldoor tree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We know everything that they're adding league oriented is designed to be core at this point, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or that's always been the safe assumption in my opinion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they don't have something on the Atlas Passive Tree for something that they know is going to be core.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So whether it's because they, it wasn't ready or they wanted to see what changes they needed to make to the league prior to adding it to the Atlas Passive Tree, whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's kind of like one of those like short-term checkboxes where it's like yeah, all right We got it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're comfortable with this now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and now they probably don't feel like a catch-up now They've got time to actually you forward on whatever look-up plan is and I do think that end-games Actually in a pretty decent spot for an early access like for you have to remember You can't compare Path of Exile 2 directly in Path of Exile 1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Path of Exile 1 has like 13 years of content that's slowly built up over years to this monstrous monster's end-game

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for me, Pewey, too, actually has a pretty, it's, then games pretty good right now for early access, given that we're missing still so much, we're missing two acts, we're missing multiple classes, both loads of ascendancies, tons of base types, massive amounts of skills and supports, like there's so much that still to come, that dang game for me is in a, like I'm still playing,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I ended up making a fourth character after where he did our stupid episode last week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a different huge difference for me personally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not been an experience I've had in Path of Excel too yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the point for patch was very exciting because I'd actually taken off like three or four days where I just did enough time to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I hit like this spot, it always happens to me where I'm like, uh...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's time to play something else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I even looked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was debating playing something else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they came with the point four pass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, okay, that actually, like I've said in the past that expedition was like, what am I, what am I doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, it doesn't make any sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now they completely switch it up and expeditions freaking so much fun to play now, tied in with the new runes of older changes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just pull me back in, which is not common for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At least not padded accept too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I commented last week, but I know they made changes again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Expeditions kind of, like, without all those extra modifier text, pay attention to and make it a puzzle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You just see flags and you click.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Put it down where you see a league mechanic and you're like, you know, let's include it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a couple of times I didn't realize that next

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[SPEAKER_02]: and maybe that's a compliment to that specific layout and level design in retrospect, I wish I realized that and noted which level design it was because you recognize an expedition if you're staring at the minima.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You see it all over the place.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the only reason I wouldn't have those if I'm not staring at the minima.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that would have actually been one of my favorite layouts maybe because I wasn't, you know, not paying attention to the minima, but I was trying to interact with

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I said that's kidding and I'm like, hey, yeah, because it's not starting and I'm like There's no warning or right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be glad to add that would be a glitch, but hey, hey, and it's not working And then I'm also and I'm like, wait, there's another room thing right there and I'm like, oh, yeah So just give me two sex here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just got to get the dog you don't have to change anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You haven't seen my dog have you Accepted on TV.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like your dog.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know you're you're at home all day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna be playing pound the vex out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I can't I just stepped out your car is gonna be there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna hear you go and look Oh, the apple from the office window Yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: God, I'm telling you later.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You all get the blue check marks from what's up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You look so busy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, anyway.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't take me out of the experience.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely simpler than it used to be because yeah, you don't have to worry about stupid suffixes that are going to make you not able to do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And but like I want them to like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not the only people, but that's so refreshing and peaceful and nice to add to your experience when you don't have to worry about stupid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, whether it's

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the same thing with like enemy modifier combinations and that kind of thing with base types.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You remove the stupid and I'm not saying that in a derogatory way, but you remove the stuff that is not going to be fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That if you accidentally have this or RNG works really against you, it's just a like a really unfun experience and I don't get

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[SPEAKER_02]: how like when you get back into the ascendancy conversation, which I'll just make this really quick, like there's just a lot of stupid in the trials of chaos.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's not one of those modifiers where you're like

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really excited to pick this one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like some of the micro-incidentally work well for you, in terms of the stuff that you've had, but none of them are actually fun to play with or against, do you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was kind of hoping like eventually like this like, okay, they've only kept the fun and they've removed all the negative from expedition.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now let's spread that mentality, kind of like hex bloom, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: spread it spread it three meters away all the way until it's unpacked until you're other stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did I played some trials this week and like I was doing them on purpose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... but the thing is like uh... i don't know if they mean it to be this way it's just crazy that with six with six rooms or one of their whatever idols whatever they're called runic alter things with six good ones specifically sixties at one dotting relics like runic on resistance and stuff it it becomes so much uh... like it's just weird to me because like

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing that does that anywhere else, if you play trials of chaos.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing you do to trivialize it, but side you build just generally being stronger, being able to do more, which is not the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As me being able to fit in six or seven relics and being able to just breeze through the second of things I wonder if that's on purpose, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it robot or your liquid is happening?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just wonder if that's on purpose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they thought, is that the goal?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like you're just making it way too hard for me at the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and then you're talking about it at the end and it's like I don't get supposed to be excited at the opportunity to improve your character not low the progress until or skip until they're right over leveled which is not just a poor design nothing should be skipped and then save for later yeah it just otherwise don't put it in at this point right

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just find it it was interesting as I was playing it thinking like man, this was just a chore when I first did it and now I'm just freezing through that being said, you can still get hit with like some of the some of the worst options and then some of them can completely break your run altogether because maybe you don't know what the room or the the risk is going to be if you click this one because some previous one removed it or something but yeah, I uh

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[SPEAKER_01]: I took the easy way on every single one of my characters to get my fourth ascension.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Every single one of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just paid two devines and had somebody run me through it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, mostly just because flu falls in on whenever I wanted to get it done, but, uh, yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder when the trial mob is coming at Bulba?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that what it is?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Totally.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, but, but what kind of genre is that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: we have roguelike we have a nine to people call us okay with is it like on what legal legends is that mobile well legal legends is about lanes right but it's same well that's what this is too but i don't know well this one's just all open like there's no like designed area whereas like a mobile would be like you have these lanes that you have to deal with what is mobile even stand for

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[SPEAKER_01]: with this moment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Massively annoying with an old battle arena.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you got the last to write multiplayer online battle arena.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not a mobile because it's not multiplayer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a single player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So how about soba?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tota, soba single player online battle arena nailed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway,

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if it's anything like what it was in POE 1, it's the same as Sekima.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It becomes better the more you play it because you get better stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh that's just a weird thing to have for that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want them to choose um ARPG for one to it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are we got plenty of that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah plenty of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's brings something else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Both of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They got the random part for trials of chaos.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well they found the delirious too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They made delirious a bit better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Which was actually come across.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I get swarmed though like early on when you start getting introduced to it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can get um shanked from behind.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm still finding no matter how far I've progressed with my characters, the lack of physical damage mitigation, like I'm actually finding having a something that I want, I don't know, what they want us to do about physical damage without armor, but like stacking stuff, and you need, in my opinion, way more of like energy shield or life or at other kinds of mitigation

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[SPEAKER_02]: such a greater value than just an 80-bitty amount of armor, but like I don't know, I keep it like I've been just theory crafting like crazy this this week so much and it all just comes down to armor like it's just so much easier playing with armor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to do all these other ideas, but like I even just unspecked out of energy shield, I'm like it's not worth it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So until I get really crazy amounts of energy shield, but having 2,000, 3,000 energy shields just useless, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the same character with the name C.I.

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[SPEAKER_02]: in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, C.I.M.I.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and I'm not doing M.I.

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[SPEAKER_01]: or C.I.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What character have you been playing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I made a fourth character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, after I said I would not make a fourth character, uh, I'm pause.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me see your shirt, I just saw the wizard ball pretty awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and, uh, I do know why I got for Father's Day, and it all is because of cards against humanity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know the one card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on Mother F and Wizard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I said I wasn't going to make any more characters because I thought for sure it wasn't going to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I kept in these items that said you like that they affect the plant damage and I was like why I played Path of Exile for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what plant is, I have no idea what that is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I did some research, did some read.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's plant damage, there's plant skills.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, there is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just so you know, yes, they are in the, was a primal, primal, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought I,

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[SPEAKER_01]: check it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Miz will try it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See what it's like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I also found somebody that was, dude, I want to, I've always wanted to see, okay, so I played Litch before I played Litch last.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, last thing, whatever the league was that the abyssal version of it came out, the, the, the green version of the Litch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I wanted to play that, and I saw somebody that had the plants with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, okay, I'll take a look at that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was playing plants, and I ascended.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did the Litch thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got the Abyssal Litch version, which just basically makes, especially for what I was doing specifically, just your curse explosion is based off physical damage and set of chaos.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm everything else is,

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[SPEAKER_01]: very similar on the tree, unless you're going into some of the other things that I wasn't touching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like I needed to go to the abyssal which it was just fun to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, thank you to whoever helped me with that, because I never even had to do the fight, just went into somebody who was fighting cool the Mac and click the button and I had the ascension.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I started playing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I struggled for a bit through it and

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a more active playstyle, so I thought it'd be fun to try it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I did get it 10 game, I ended up taking it to level 90, but as I'm playing through, I had fun trying to get it there, and I also tried to time myself this time I'm like, Kate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All these people are like, oh, three hour, four hour campaign.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I am gonna try to the point where I was like, if I'm done, I'm logging off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want the timer to count anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to know what my tool of play time was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I tried as hard as I could to make sure I prepped and all the stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was still like, I think he was just under eight hours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it, and that's not bad, it's better than it used to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: out of fourth character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got the character to 90, but then if I was like, hi, I want to start pushing that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to try doing the other stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd go and do the harder stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the clear wasn't terrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a fun skill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun to throw in these vines out and then you're making them pop and using them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thunderstorm one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was fun, but I was like, man, I could just walk through this if I went back to my monkey build.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if I spoiled myself by playing that, but I have an character that's like really high level with fight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: really good gear and so I went back to that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That one's now 96 and I just kept pushing more of the game stuff which was a lot of fun and then I'm also playing now just to catch better beasts and that's actually fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so off for some reason I'm enjoying that, but then also this week I got to play the point four patch, so I hadn't even touched the ocean.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was my first four-ray into the ocean adventure because I was like, well, I don't want to go in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's expedition stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no purpose to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now my ocean is expanded.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was my week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What about you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been a lot of theory crafting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have like six, seven characters started, but again, like only one of them in maps, and it's just waste tier one maps.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's boring build or what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: All of the builds, all my ideas, their handcuffed between feeling required to do things because of how certain skills interact.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like I can't find a skill that is like a combination of skills that I actually want to do and enjoy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I keep coming up with ideas.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, oh, this would be really cool to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This would be cool to do, but I'm like, oh, no, because of how this interacts with this, I feel like I have to do this, so I'm just like doing half the skill or half the ability, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, for example, I was doing originally, I was doing ball lightning,

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[SPEAKER_02]: With living lightning attached to it and then minion instability and it's all great Minions stability works great, but living lightning does absolutely no damage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no point to me casting it at all Like there's nothing with the exception of Keeping an enemy's energy shield down that really does no damage and I my whole build was invested into doing damage for living lightning and then minion instability was just

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[SPEAKER_02]: the side damage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The bonus coin that would set off cast on minion death every 6, 7 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But like it just it was weak.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like okay well now let's let's been max this a bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If I get rid of living lightning, what else is there now?

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[SPEAKER_02]: The build that I want to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I always enjoy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want something to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: While my minions are running around, I like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like having something where I'm just holding it down, I'm doing something that's beneficial, whether it's a debuff, whether it no matter what it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But like keep running into things like, okay, well, I could do a bleed build, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I could do bleed, but then it's just like, there's no point having lots of things taking a bleed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just one hit because that's how bleed works, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's the same with poison.

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[SPEAKER_02]: To do more than that with poison requires a significant investment,

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[SPEAKER_02]: to me, they're the same, but one as a two-second duration, bleed as a five-second duration.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ignite has a four-second duration, so I'm going to pick bleed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I could do Ignite, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The skeletons are already doing that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, but there's just those kinds of things where it's like when I'm picking between my minions with the exception of temporary minions, permanent minions, they're all the same.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just what element do you want, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want fire?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want lightning?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want cold?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want physical?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's all, but it's the exact same experience as just you're picking your favorite color or your favorite element.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's the same thing with dots right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They all have, I mean, for some reason, the duration's a little bit different, but like, you know, it's like, well, they don't stack.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you have, or there's no variety between them besides the element.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's physical dot, chaos dot, or fire dot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, and I guess you could do chaos with decaying hacks as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: is redundant.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's almost doing the exact same thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're just picking your favorite color almost.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I go through in different things and I'm like, well, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I like having something to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Minion instability is actually a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really like having my skills just naturally have the sockets increase because it comes from a weapon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that I'll be able to, like I haven't actually gotten to that part of the game, but where you get like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: the tier 18 or 19 skill.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know the tier 21's are tough to get right the gem level 21's, but it's still fun to like hope and wait for that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But is that when the fifth socket on locks to your 20 or you get that before?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the fifth socket do you mean for a normal skill?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like an almost forward and because that's based on the perfect jeweler or yeah No, I'm talking to the skills that come on weapons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, those are based on the quality of are you talking about like because the weapons that you have or the ones that you get from like an ascendancy

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because those are lovelies, so the rattling scepter, the fourth support socket, unlocks at, I forget what the item level is, but when it offers level 15 of this, I see what you're saying, yeah, so that's when the fourth one unlocks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know when the last one unlocks, whether they give it to you at 19 or 18, maybe 20 times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't I like that where you know you're not as desperate for specific resources to unlock everything you know what I mean I'm gonna be aiming for level 20 rattling sector anyway so for the the fact that I don't need a perfect jeweler's or for that one I can use it for another skill I like all that combination of it all

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, just because the skeletal warriors have more life than any zombie will ever have or any other minion, it was the exception of a specter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just kind of like okay, well if I'm doing minions to ability like that's why I have to go with and they require so little spirit compared to anything else that would be comparable anyway.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I just kind of, you know, like there's these ideas that I have that are handcuffed and it's like, okay, well, how do I want to invest my defense?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't find energy shield worth it throughout the process.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe eventually respecking to it, but I'm going to be in the process for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So energy shield is out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really like dealing with the whole armor situation, but I already don't have enough intelligence for my pure int skills.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have the resources when I'm going through the process of early maps to add strength to this as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I still don't have my resist.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have like 20% lightning resist.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm capped on the other two, but I can't find a good enough gear with sockets to improve my lightning resist.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Despite having charms, the charms only work once or twice, and then I'm checking with my head cut off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I know that's just R&D stuff, but the process to me, I don't have the gear to...

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[SPEAKER_02]: fly through the process.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm having to play through the process.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm just feeling a little handcuffed with how skills interact.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I've kind of bounced back and forth between here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Flip Mike actually showed me a damaging support that I never would have discovered on my own because I don't really deal with war cries and there's a skill called corrupting cry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's two levels to it and it adds corrupted blood to anybody you hit with the war cry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it's technically a hit or not, but whatever to everybody you've war cried.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It adds corrupting blood and so I was playing around a lot with that in my idea with a different like smithicatobas an ascendancy I really like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Berserker, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, that one has a notable that says ignoring the cooldown of your war cries, which would be really cool because corrupting blood is actually one of those dots that does stack.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right and up to 10 times so I'll that'd be really cool if you can get the man sustain for that But you know, I don't like anything else in that ascendancy so I'm like That's a tough one so then I started looking at all the other war cry stuff So I had a lot of fun doing that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't end up actually starting the character But that was a lot of fun to look into and discover and then I'm going back and so I've actually just recently Respected I spent all my gold unfortunately

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, changing my mind a couple of times, but I'm now at a point where I have to stick with this build to gain more gold.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I respect into a weapon swapping build with my zombies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm using sacrifice, which, you know, has to be used on both weapon sets.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I'm using zombies on one, and then I was hoping.

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[SPEAKER_02]: what's that skill called?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Infernal Legion, where the minions burn, I was hoping having enough fire resist and just keeping them there and then using something like frostbomb and elemental weakness.

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[SPEAKER_02]: An invested in that on the trio is hoping that maybe that would improve the infernal Legion aura of igniting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Enough that it would actually be fun and comfortable to just let them

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[SPEAKER_02]: Elemental weakness and frostbomber being cast ended up being a I didn't expect it too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was hoping to be surprised by it, but Didn't do a lot of damage, of course, and empowered zombies are just so Strong that is really tough to just not use them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm kind of bouncing back and forth between like having sacrifice

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I'm holding down the zombie button, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then that's just some cast on minion death.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Makes profane bloom happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just naturally getting rid of corpses, corpses, corpses, and then all of a sudden I'm maxed out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And in a boss fight, it makes it even easier because it's just...

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not casting it too much, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So just permanent skeletons all the time and that works out great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Another thing that I tried doing was adding, um, when I'm not casting skeletons, switching back and forth between detonate dead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So still the same setup where I have sacrifice and then castle minion death with profane ritual.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But how I get my skeletons is just by exploding them right away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then that creates profane ritual which creates power charges so that I go bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because the other side of it, I'm weapon swapping.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I have a weapon set A is all damage for minions and weapon set B is all life for minions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So detonate dead is attached weapon set too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So everything that's exploding is scaling off of life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: has my paths to get there, but then also it's going to be curses.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Curse investment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So on my litch, it's manner region, the fancy socket, and then the curse branch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I will say on the list, the freaking right side branch, it makes you so tanky if you combo it with things that damage bypass energy shield, because then you just, that's just straight up, damage the disappears.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Never happens because your life can't move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get I die a lot with that one just because I don't have enough energy shield yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, you do you definitely need a lot of energy shield before you commit to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think my Lich had like 7,000, 7,500, which made it a lot easier, but also was purposely getting it to low-lifes that you get all the extra spell damage from pain attimate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But oh, Dan, you just said something, oh, weapon swap in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have an issue with my my beast guy that has a bunch of monkeys and companions out that I tried to make it so that if I weapon swap, because I don't really do anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I throw out a mark here and there, but there's not much to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to use the parrying because I told you about that skill, the retry retrytryt or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're basically for the next six seconds, you'll parry any blockable attack.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Any parable attack, you're going to block it or parry it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the benefit then is the enemy gets a percentage damage against them, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, and you can scale that quite high based on the parry magnitude that you can get items and

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[SPEAKER_01]: When I try doing it with a subterna shield and everything looks correct, I go into the skill section, I check the spirit and I've got let's say I've got on my weapons at one let's say I've got 40 spirit left over and on weapons at two I've got 37 spirit left over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, if I swap to, so I've got, I'm on weapons at one, I've got 40 spirit available to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I swapped to weapons at two, which now, she was maybe a 37 available swap back to my weapons at one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I have like four spirit available and one of my, my companions is no longer out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I cannot figure, there has to be a button or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you ideal with something similar, different results because of different skills.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I've actually found that the game glitches out and sometimes does not cast auto skills or doesn't trigger the spirit reservation stuff properly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it's weird.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes I'll be casting stuff and profane rituals not showing up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's on both weapons that's uncast on minion death and it's not and it's not and I have tons of stuff dying and what I have to do is I have to go back into the screen where I'm dealing with my spirit yeah right on controller maybe it's a controller thing I don't know and I have to like basically I unclick yeah and turn back a couple of the skills I just modify them a little bit and then I go back in and it's working fine but it makes it every time but it's frustrating because you're going through an experience where you're wondering why you're weak or you're wondering what's not what's not going on and it's

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for me with the companions, I can go into that where you manage your spirit and the amount that shows as available spirit there does not match what it shows on the HUD.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It will show me a different number of available spirit up in the the window versus what shows down in the HUD for how much spirit I have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And toggling, it doesn't do anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if I zone into a map, it all fixes itself until the next time I weapon swap, which really stinks because then what I ended up having to do was just

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still using, like I'm just, you know, you hold down why on controller to lock the things to both weapon sets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm still using my weapon set to tree, which is still big parry bonuses, and it, uh, because I'm still using that same skill, because it's just, it's really, really good defense when I'm blocking a boss, and then it also makes my guys do way more damage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm losing so much by not being allowed to have a buckler, like, you know, to be pushing that parry even higher,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Perry made him to which really stinks because I cannot figure out why I've tried so many things I was buying like items to jack my spirit up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just didn't matter and every time I would swap the amount left available just kept going down But but I it wasn't actually bringing out my companion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I gave up and just decided I'm just gonna keep it on the single on the single weapon swap That's frustrating and then the other thing I wrote down is you were talking about how you spent all your gold

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so funny that the like how different experiences are for people like I was talking in 2121 with people yesterday I was like, what do I do with gold?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I have that's funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've like 40 million gold and I've been using it on these random These random, there's a unique chest rate that that like spin and you can and it goes all the way up to 2 million I've run into a few of those you get crap from anyway, but I'm like, I don't know what to

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[SPEAKER_01]: to do with this gold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so thankfully, there are people in our community that are monstrously smart in this game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so people did try to give me some help, which I very much appreciate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I did write stuff down because I'm that stupid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I re-read what I wrote down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I... Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if I can find it to tell you just so you know if you ever have too much gold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What you could do with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um... Or did I put it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: My new computer deleted it to just keep me safe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But dang, that's actually too exit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a lot of stuff in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was basically all about like how you can, oh, I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They told me how to use the gold, but then they were also trying to help me learn, you didn't even get like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: five modifier jewels like with five modifiers on it not but not through cropping like there's a crafting way to do it so and again very big thank you everybody because I do appreciate I like learning about what people are doing but I don't always understand it but I'll never ever say that in the chat I'll be like oh yeah totally that makes sense good good call guys they were talking about like you can use emotions to do something else like what

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[SPEAKER_01]: again like maybe emotions to do something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I don't I do know that the lyrics has these things that drop that are called emotions, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just always assume they were only used for the annoying on the neck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Apparently not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was learning stuff in global 21 21, but um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't have anything to spend the gold on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're all like, oh yeah, you can flip this and buy this, and then you sell that blah blah blah, and you make this much div per something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, all right, on my way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the soul cell found answer please?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, so I guess with, well, with soul cell found you would probably gamble a lot of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I just don't want to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I found the drops have been decent, but I also like playing in trade.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that I can, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hit start trade market.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm lacking on this resist and I have this piece of item to replace.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, I never have to talk to another person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have to communicate or interact.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just go and, and just there, ready to sell it to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, not that you don't have anything to spend it on, but it is funny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I've just, like, been through your crafting change in my mind and figuring things out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I had a hundred, no 350,000 gold and it cost me 200,000 to make my changes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then so even though I have, you know, a bit left, it's not enough to change my mind again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I spent a lot of time making sure that one of my weapon swaps was going to be good enough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was part of my old ideas so that if my primary one didn't work, so even though my primary idea was the

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[SPEAKER_02]: Skeleton's staying alive and seeing if that could burn.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had to make them weapon set too because that's green.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Green means alive and red means dead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is one thing actually that path of Excel too is lacking a tiny bit when it comes to like Plain as friends or with people you know because in POE one if you were struggling or trying to figure out redoing a build at least Myself if I'd been playing for a while could give you Regret load of regrets and I don't need them so you may as well use them and you're kind of you can't do that in POE too because

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not tradable, which I think maybe is fine, I don't totally understand why, like I don't really care why it isn't, but it does make it harder to try and help somebody if they're trying to respeck.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't mind the idea, just like regrets used to be the only way, I don't mind the idea of earning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're your respect and your idea is to change, but Kind of wall though real easy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I definitely have um, but my walls have mostly been Interest, but that's what gold is for like okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This sucks this skill.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know the skill was weak I'm gonna move on from it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I didn't know that this is how the skill interacted or this is working the exact way that I thought it would but

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not for me, you know what I mean or I find enemies run around too much or this and that right like I found like with zombies Just going pears on bees.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I found it irritating in some situations because there's enemies that jump around and they're doing this And I'm like trying to run over some of my zombies go here zombies go there and so much range damage and it's not all the time But it's you know just some situations right and then then there's other times where it's other situation I'm okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's try and remedy that but then I'm weak when I'm getting surrounded or something like that

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[SPEAKER_02]: And those aren't, that's not Chris, it's just us to hear their me finding something that I like short term and long term and so that's why I'm really looking forward to the point five and beyond hopefully they're kind of looking at these interactions and

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe just needs more skills, maybe just needs more variety from the core concept or whatever it is, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like ball lightning because it only interacts with fire and fusions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I need fire and fusions, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: the theory crafting feels very funneled right away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it will be interesting to find out what their direction is with 0.5 and beyond because we had a story, whatever they're called, the little clips that

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[SPEAKER_01]: we get made automatically for us so you're welcome YouTube people because now you're getting whatever they're called Reels coming out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was listening back to one of our our ones and it was it was us talking about the fact that you can't play slow builds in POE2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, you were talking about something with regards to getting swarmed like in delirium, and I don't know that they're moving, I kind of watched it go in like, man, don't be such a bitch, just some like, of course, you have to always make the fastest and the biggest screen clear, but that's like a really puy one mentality, and they really tried to break away from that with puy two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if that's changed over the last year because people, you know, people didn't like the speed of the game and people blah blah blah blah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I am a little bit curious what their hope and direction is for because I don't mind having to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do prefer being fast or I don't like being slower, but I don't need to have all the fights be sort of meaningless where I'm just doing whatever I can to clear up the screen, but you can't make the mobs infinitely harder if you're not going to give.

01:00:06.852 --> 01:00:09.773
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, like, I would rather try some defensive builds.

01:00:09.893 --> 01:00:18.415
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't, like, the lich was awesome because you can play it defensively, but you have to have some damage to offset that because otherwise nothing's gonna die.

01:00:18.435 --> 01:00:20.136
[SPEAKER_01]: It's where I ran into a problem with the plant build.

01:00:20.596 --> 01:00:22.417
[SPEAKER_01]: Was I was tanky?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great.

01:00:24.430 --> 01:00:28.153
[SPEAKER_01]: but like I was taking a long time to kill stuff.

01:00:28.273 --> 01:00:35.519
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if it was because it was taking a long time in comparison to what I'd been doing with the previous builds that maybe were killing bosses faster.

01:00:35.579 --> 01:00:39.422
[SPEAKER_01]: But the the the litch and the um

01:00:40.815 --> 01:00:43.696
[SPEAKER_01]: What was the mercenary that I played, the witch hunter?

01:00:44.177 --> 01:00:50.860
[SPEAKER_01]: Those were the two funnest tanky builds that I've played ever, in Pui Tu, and they're not a warrior wearing massive armor.

01:00:51.340 --> 01:00:58.564
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just don't feel like I want to play a big chunky beefcake warrior.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe be a little bit slower, but at least feel like I'm not losing to everybody else because I want to sit here for six seconds when my Earthquake's about to pop through the ground.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:01:12.055 --> 01:01:13.176
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know what their direction is.

01:01:13.216 --> 01:01:14.498
[SPEAKER_01]: It's very confusing to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been really tempted to play Smith's a Katava, but with minions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I require because of the attribute requirements.

01:01:26.349 --> 01:01:47.700
[SPEAKER_02]: I need to spend all my attributes on the on the highway on to intelligence, but I just can't like it's it's 15 nodes away from starting my tree, you know what I mean, just let you get just a mythic at all that you wouldn't get out of something like the witch to defense that I don't have to I could have my whole tree minions and offense, if I could be this mythic at all.

01:01:48.741 --> 01:01:52.003
[SPEAKER_01]: You think all that basically that cost me a 15 point investment.

01:01:52.583 --> 01:01:54.944
[SPEAKER_01]: You think all that because of the Smith-The-Katava's tendency?

01:01:54.964 --> 01:01:55.724
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:01:57.384 --> 01:02:02.605
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, so the starting nodes, of course, are what takes me to get to, like, the starting point or imagery would actually start all the travel nodes.

01:02:02.665 --> 01:02:04.906
[SPEAKER_02]: But Smith-The-Katava just has enough.

01:02:05.166 --> 01:02:12.527
[SPEAKER_02]: And even if I'm just using a normal energy shield base, all my other stuff's going to be energy shield, right?

01:02:12.567 --> 01:02:15.188
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll have that, but then I'll have the defenses of,

01:02:15.989 --> 01:02:25.680
[SPEAKER_02]: 200 flat armor for each notable that I'm taking down there, and that's going to be more than enough for the little stunts that, you know, the little massive damage chunks that I'm taking while I'm leveling.

01:02:35.431 --> 01:02:36.471
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's nice, right?

01:02:36.991 --> 01:02:42.713
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a lot of things in there where I could just go pure off and so my tree if I could start there but it's going to cost me the 15 notes.

01:02:42.753 --> 01:02:46.355
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course in ascendancy but those are ascendants that's in ascendancy that actually excites me.

01:02:46.835 --> 01:02:55.198
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're going to do, sorry, as tanky and or maybe more with the lich, but you have to be able to push somehow to get that energy shield.

01:02:55.878 --> 01:02:56.938
[SPEAKER_01]: to make it where it works.

01:02:57.018 --> 01:02:57.879
[SPEAKER_01]: And that is an end.

01:02:58.199 --> 01:03:04.942
[SPEAKER_01]: The actual honest truth is you need uniques because you need to have percentage of damage by passes energy shield.

01:03:04.962 --> 01:03:08.883
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you just that that is it's the same with when I'm playing on my monkey build.

01:03:09.143 --> 01:03:15.726
[SPEAKER_01]: I need as many companions as possible because I need to a loyalty on them because I need to that's that's my form of defense is let them take the damage.

01:03:17.226 --> 01:03:17.987
[SPEAKER_01]: So for the legit it

01:03:19.688 --> 01:03:21.390
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I have no problem with your necks.

01:03:21.971 --> 01:03:22.892
[SPEAKER_02]: They just got dropped for me.

01:03:22.912 --> 01:03:25.936
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna play soul cell phone, right?

01:03:27.358 --> 01:03:28.900
[SPEAKER_02]: So if one drops for me, that's cool.

01:03:29.300 --> 01:03:29.701
[SPEAKER_02]: I like that.

01:03:29.741 --> 01:03:34.347
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the idea of the the shaman that extra 120 spirit flattens the beer.

01:03:34.367 --> 01:03:36.350
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really nice because to me charms

01:03:37.013 --> 01:03:41.735
[SPEAKER_01]: So the one that you get to see different things on the tree, not the Oracle or every school.

01:03:42.295 --> 01:03:47.737
[SPEAKER_02]: The shaman's, the one that also has the absorption or whatever it's called.

01:03:49.418 --> 01:03:52.039
[SPEAKER_02]: Where it's like the highest damage you take elemental.

01:03:52.419 --> 01:03:52.939
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, right.

01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:54.120
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:03:54.160 --> 01:03:55.060
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you play with that at all?

01:03:55.400 --> 01:03:55.940
[SPEAKER_01]: That's some point.

01:03:56.320 --> 01:03:57.361
[SPEAKER_01]: I played when I played.

01:03:59.882 --> 01:04:23.720
[SPEAKER_02]: that I don't remember what I did I think man I don't remember can't remember it all it also has the bonded modifiers as well for once you actually have gear with stock it's not that kind of stuff so do you know what's the bonded thing will do before or is it when I I've never selected it but no there's just a hidden list somewhere hopefully are able to tell ahead of time I'm sure you can it's probably on all the rooms

01:04:26.974 --> 01:04:28.836
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like my brain's been in theory crafting mode.

01:04:28.856 --> 01:04:34.221
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just trying to find like I'm in that awkward stage where it's like there's stuff I want to do, but I can't do it.

01:04:34.361 --> 01:04:40.266
[SPEAKER_02]: So how can I get there closely and still enjoy the gameplay for some reason.

01:04:40.286 --> 01:04:46.752
[SPEAKER_02]: I keep coming back to zombies because that's me doing my casting and the empowered zombies are so strong.

01:04:46.993 --> 01:04:47.173
[SPEAKER_02]: So.

01:04:47.593 --> 01:04:50.935
[SPEAKER_02]: and I don't even need to have defense for them, so it allows me to open up the tree.

01:04:51.055 --> 01:04:58.278
[SPEAKER_02]: And I really love curses, because curses investment allows me to have, it's both damage and defense, right?

01:04:58.618 --> 01:04:59.919
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's a lot of casting.

01:05:00.579 --> 01:05:10.263
[SPEAKER_02]: If you want to have curses, well, but then, then I miss out on, like it's, it's a lot though, to have three curses with blasts.

01:05:10.303 --> 01:05:10.924
[SPEAKER_01]: I only have one.

01:05:10.944 --> 01:05:13.645
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I only had your favorite one.

01:05:15.266 --> 01:05:25.293
[SPEAKER_02]: I could do two, and so here's the thing when then, but then I start thinking, okay, well, I'm with Zombies, and that's primarily physical damage, and funny enough detonate dead despite the fact that it has added fire damage.

01:05:26.485 --> 01:05:31.967
[SPEAKER_02]: when you have a decent amount of minion life, the minion life explosion is actually a physical damage.

01:05:32.207 --> 01:05:46.032
[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's just a separate thing that's fire damage from detonate dead, but the amount of damage that's done compared to the minion life, it's like five times more physical damage than it is fire damage, so I'm just gonna go with physical damage, right?

01:05:46.072 --> 01:05:47.993
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I can put a half on it for, you know what I mean?

01:05:48.493 --> 01:05:48.673
[SPEAKER_02]: But,

01:05:49.473 --> 01:05:50.877
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm doing all physical damage.

01:05:51.177 --> 01:05:57.973
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, fine, that's cool, but the physical damage spell or curse is vulnerability and all that does is reduce armor.

01:05:59.432 --> 01:06:00.933
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't.

01:06:01.053 --> 01:06:03.055
[SPEAKER_01]: Why does it have to be the vulnerability curse?

01:06:03.095 --> 01:06:04.997
[SPEAKER_01]: What would be the reason that it has to be that curse?

01:06:05.097 --> 01:06:08.299
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, so if I have three curses, I'm going to go in feeble and temporal chains.

01:06:08.339 --> 01:06:08.720
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.

01:06:08.740 --> 01:06:09.961
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the other one's a damage one.

01:06:10.241 --> 01:06:10.521
[SPEAKER_01]: I see.

01:06:10.982 --> 01:06:19.248
[SPEAKER_02]: If I'm doing all physical damage, I'm going to do vulnerability, but all vulnerability does is remove the defense of physical damage, but not every boss.

01:06:20.029 --> 01:06:20.469
[SPEAKER_02]: has armor.

01:06:21.590 --> 01:06:23.871
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a wasted investment for that, right?

01:06:23.891 --> 01:06:28.193
[SPEAKER_02]: So then maybe I only go with two two versus.

01:06:28.473 --> 01:06:31.734
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I don't really care for vulnerability in its state for reducing armor.

01:06:32.194 --> 01:06:33.775
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you definitely like the curses, different.

01:06:33.795 --> 01:06:39.938
[SPEAKER_01]: But with my benefit of the temps, chains with the curses, just the explosion, the clearest faster because of the

01:06:44.407 --> 01:06:44.667
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

01:06:45.248 --> 01:06:47.409
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, I kind of, sorry, pardon me.

01:06:47.669 --> 01:06:50.712
[SPEAKER_01]: And temp change is great, but you're just, you're slowing things around you.

01:06:50.752 --> 01:06:54.014
[SPEAKER_02]: So, but then when I do blast me, you know what I feel like I need to do.

01:06:54.034 --> 01:06:54.554
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

01:06:55.855 --> 01:06:58.637
[SPEAKER_02]: Chrono-mats are, for what reason?

01:06:59.638 --> 01:07:25.093
[SPEAKER_02]: well because then they have that slow aura right that slow but and it's slow but it's not a curse so I don't get the penalty from blast me but then I feel like I need to invest in the aura nodes right which are a little quite like a way back in the 0.1 and then I'm like okay but now from going chrono mancer with minions amissing out in the 104% increased minion damage and a tiny bit of the revised which you would have been the worst you would have been the sava

01:07:26.553 --> 01:07:26.773
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

01:07:27.194 --> 01:07:30.216
[SPEAKER_02]: So then is that worth the slow?

01:07:31.457 --> 01:07:33.178
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yes, has to right?

01:07:34.759 --> 01:07:42.565
[SPEAKER_02]: So that, but then, if I have all this is blasphemy, then I have very little leftover for my skeletons, which are with sacrifice.

01:07:43.666 --> 01:07:46.448
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it's taking me a long time to get my power charges up.

01:07:46.468 --> 01:07:47.228
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, blasphemy is what?

01:07:47.308 --> 01:07:48.009
[SPEAKER_02]: 30 or is it 60?

01:07:53.533 --> 01:08:08.493
[SPEAKER_02]: but you can also add it to and slow a slow potency and you're like okay now it's like now it's a lot and then I had sacrifice and all of a sudden I can only have two skeletons left over and they take forever to come back because of sacrifice

01:08:09.522 --> 01:08:14.163
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, so just find like all the ideas that I have that's saying it's a bad game design.

01:08:14.203 --> 01:08:19.305
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying my ideas are handcuffed by how what the skills limitations are, right?

01:08:19.325 --> 01:08:25.807
[SPEAKER_02]: What either a spirit cost or needing to be on both weapons sets or the penalty and revive time.

01:08:26.787 --> 01:08:28.729
[SPEAKER_02]: I could all just kind of adds up.

01:08:28.769 --> 01:08:40.561
[SPEAKER_02]: And sure, some of this is my like hyper focus on like, okay, if I'm doing slow with blasphemy, well, I'm going to be the chrono mansory because they already have the natural aura, but then I feel like I need to invest in aura stuff.

01:08:40.581 --> 01:08:44.404
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's just me not wanting to do it halfway, you know what I mean?

01:08:44.765 --> 01:08:48.048
[SPEAKER_02]: So, but that is also just the things that interest me, right?

01:08:49.269 --> 01:08:56.676
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a really tough time doing temporal chains without taking those two slow clusters that aren't curs specific, they're slow specific.

01:08:56.896 --> 01:09:01.920
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it just because you're doing it and you don't feel like you're just fully doing it?

01:09:01.940 --> 01:09:03.461
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that why you don't want to have us?

01:09:03.501 --> 01:09:04.823
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, you'll be proud of me.

01:09:04.843 --> 01:09:13.150
[SPEAKER_02]: The current curs investment when I have, I do not have investment into those two slow potency clusters.

01:09:15.085 --> 01:09:20.152
[SPEAKER_02]: at 6% slow, Justin, 6% slow on a boss that I'm missing out on.

01:09:20.512 --> 01:09:24.056
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still even with the normal base level feels way better.

01:09:24.196 --> 01:09:24.537
[SPEAKER_01]: Say it.

01:09:24.577 --> 01:09:25.017
[SPEAKER_01]: You need it.

01:09:25.398 --> 01:09:32.907
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to find out it's not the, it's not blasphemy because blasphemy increases the magnitude of them, but is it the actual curse themselves or quality?

01:09:33.869 --> 01:09:35.650
[SPEAKER_01]: decreases the reservation.

01:09:35.870 --> 01:09:38.812
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a way to decrease the reservation and decrease the reservation.

01:09:38.872 --> 01:09:39.352
[SPEAKER_02]: And what?

01:09:40.053 --> 01:09:40.813
[SPEAKER_02]: Get out of here.

01:09:41.674 --> 01:09:45.196
[SPEAKER_01]: No, there's very little that actually outside of unique that decreases reservation.

01:09:46.237 --> 01:09:49.839
[SPEAKER_01]: No, quality on blasphemy is increased reservation efficiency of skills.

01:09:50.879 --> 01:09:54.882
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, 20 you would have a 10% increase reservation.

01:09:54.922 --> 01:09:56.383
[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder what that puts it down to.

01:09:57.319 --> 01:10:00.581
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what does that change a temp change from being?

01:10:00.601 --> 01:10:05.383
[SPEAKER_01]: If it was 60 before, then it would be, I guess, 54?

01:10:06.144 --> 01:10:08.545
[SPEAKER_02]: Quality on temp changes is curse magnitude.

01:10:08.565 --> 01:10:09.826
[SPEAKER_02]: I think all of them are like that.

01:10:10.806 --> 01:10:12.547
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't last for me, you said.

01:10:13.508 --> 01:10:15.769
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, 10% increased reservation efficiency.

01:10:16.149 --> 01:10:33.920
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, so you would have minor, but it's helpful, but I mean, when I'm dealing with spirit, it's like, okay, I have 47 spirit and I'm using this thing to that's going to cost 30 and I have 17 spirit left over, you know what I mean, like I'm not min maxing it to the minor number because I don't I don't know what that's the tough.

01:10:34.160 --> 01:10:48.232
[SPEAKER_01]: thing too is you're not trying to min max it but you're trying to figure out a way to make it work as your leveling where and my brain is going well first off this doesn't work what you're leveling but I'm just thinking like if you have which isn't super difficult to do 300 spirit.

01:10:49.971 --> 01:10:57.117
[SPEAKER_01]: you're talking for your three things roughly half of it is being used up for three curses.

01:10:58.017 --> 01:11:04.062
[SPEAKER_02]: If I'm doing that, yeah, but I plan around not having 300 spirits begin with.

01:11:04.402 --> 01:11:07.184
[SPEAKER_02]: I need the build to work without it.

01:11:07.505 --> 01:11:10.627
[SPEAKER_02]: And if I get more than 200 spirit, that's great.

01:11:10.887 --> 01:11:13.770
[SPEAKER_02]: If you get a sector that's like, oh, this is increasing this

01:11:17.392 --> 01:11:28.936
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, if I can function with 200, like let's say I get a chapter that has like increased, I don't know, 27-spirit.

01:11:29.917 --> 01:11:42.001
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, cool, like now I have 27-spirit, but now I get another chapter that's better in another attribute and I'm like, oh, that's actually worth the 21, but now I got to get rid of that, like I want the build to be able to function without the bonus,

01:11:46.746 --> 01:11:50.729
[SPEAKER_02]: with, I'm going loading my cursor efficiency spreadsheet here.

01:11:50.769 --> 01:12:04.478
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right now, if I was to do blasphemy, the slow on a boss on a unique enemy is 16%, where self-casted is double.

01:12:05.718 --> 01:12:13.901
[SPEAKER_02]: If I was to fully invest in all of it, now this is like a significant portion of everything.

01:12:14.121 --> 01:12:19.143
[SPEAKER_02]: The two tree slow clusters, the three presence oros, and then one, two, three, four.

01:12:20.243 --> 01:12:22.484
[SPEAKER_02]: Five clusters for curses.

01:12:22.724 --> 01:12:25.865
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm ignoring the one that deals with curses duration because it's blasphemy.

01:12:27.547 --> 01:12:30.968
[SPEAKER_02]: and then also having the two gems for efficiency.

01:12:32.429 --> 01:12:34.130
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going, we're jumping up the curse.

01:12:34.490 --> 01:12:41.873
[SPEAKER_02]: The curse would go from 30 to 38 and blasphemy would count as a 26% slow against Unix.

01:12:41.973 --> 01:12:47.034
[SPEAKER_02]: It just doesn't seem, but then I would have the chrono mats are on top of that and the chrono mats are at 19 and a half.

01:12:48.495 --> 01:12:54.258
[SPEAKER_02]: So then all of a sudden, that basically goes from 25 and 20 to 45% slow.

01:12:54.438 --> 01:12:58.240
[SPEAKER_02]: If I'm the Corona man, so but only 25 from not, those things that you didn't just in.

01:12:58.900 --> 01:13:03.142
[SPEAKER_02]: That's like my entire tree for like nine percent.

01:13:03.202 --> 01:13:04.843
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't do anything into curses with mine.

01:13:04.863 --> 01:13:07.404
[SPEAKER_01]: I just threw it on so that shit would explode when I killed them.

01:13:09.005 --> 01:13:11.887
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, when does blast me on the locked, do you remember?

01:13:11.907 --> 01:13:14.288
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it a 13 skill gym?

01:13:17.027 --> 01:13:18.408
[SPEAKER_01]: it's it's higher than it should be.

01:13:18.608 --> 01:13:21.709
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember when it's but it's yeah.

01:13:22.389 --> 01:13:23.830
[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoy the theory crafting of it.

01:13:23.890 --> 01:13:29.952
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just tough for me like I've restarted many different characters because I'm getting bored with my characters.

01:13:31.493 --> 01:13:42.917
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know if that's a me thing or if that something that if like if there's a lot of people that feel like that like me then it's a GGG thing like they just got up and not like a criticism it's just you know you create something you're

01:13:43.517 --> 01:13:50.206
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, well, maybe we've got to change this or this or this and maybe that helps, you know, what makes you not bored though, what would make you not bored playing that build?

01:13:51.473 --> 01:14:14.822
[SPEAKER_02]: Well that's the thing like that's where I can't really say it's a criticism because like I don't know what I would change like one of my ideas did work but only the part that I didn't care about the build right and so I want something that I can interact with but like I'm trying to find a good clear skill and then a good single target skill and I just find that

01:14:16.461 --> 01:14:18.923
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess I find at the end of the day they're not really my ideas.

01:14:19.263 --> 01:14:34.594
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I come up with an idea, but then because of restrictions for whatever good reasons the company might have for making them, I find that at the end of the day I'm not making my idea, I'm making something that revolves around all the different rules that exist.

01:14:35.975 --> 01:15:01.389
[SPEAKER_02]: So by the end of the day, the character that I'm making is nothing close to what I was hoping to do with my character because of either efficiency or how it functions or I guess interacts and coincides with other skills and things like that right so that's all I'd love to use zombies but the revive time is a big pain with sacrifice so it's kind of like one or the other not both so we'll see.

01:15:02.848 --> 01:15:04.890
[SPEAKER_02]: Why do you say, when you say with sacrifice, what do you mean?

01:15:05.651 --> 01:15:15.440
[SPEAKER_02]: Well sacrifice just makes it that after you use it on both weaponsets, but sacrifice decreases the, or increases the cooldown time of reviving minions.

01:15:16.801 --> 01:15:21.325
[SPEAKER_02]: And so sure I could do permanent minions, but I mean, in powered zombies,

01:15:22.858 --> 01:15:26.859
[SPEAKER_02]: don't need defense, so I could just do them instead of a permanent build, right?

01:15:27.340 --> 01:15:33.062
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, so I just kind of find like how it all interacts, just kind of like, well, it just makes sense to do this, but that wasn't my idea.

01:15:33.702 --> 01:15:36.903
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember having so much fun the first time I played the witch going with rivers.

01:15:37.243 --> 01:15:40.604
[SPEAKER_01]: I just haven't attended those little freaking hacks, dudes.

01:15:41.184 --> 01:15:41.745
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're good.

01:15:42.985 --> 01:15:47.152
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm the cost of a very small amount of spirit, which I like, but I always end up going with gigantic.

01:15:47.192 --> 01:15:48.515
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that gigantic cluster.

01:15:48.535 --> 01:15:51.419
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's really cool, especially with temporary minions.

01:15:51.900 --> 01:15:52.962
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like free gigantic.

01:15:54.384 --> 01:15:54.585
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

01:15:57.463 --> 01:15:58.824
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually had a really good week.

01:15:58.904 --> 01:16:06.945
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just trying to find something that it's my idea, because it's my idea that interests me and my ideas are what carry my interest level, right?

01:16:07.445 --> 01:16:18.288
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just trying to find something that, I don't know, maybe I guess the final point is, I feel like I'm having to try too hard to have one of my ideas actually come to life.

01:16:18.568 --> 01:16:19.268
[SPEAKER_02]: It's too much in the way.

01:16:19.908 --> 01:16:20.149
[SPEAKER_01]: I see.

01:16:20.349 --> 01:16:26.460
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, want to end this with me telling you how to roll a five-socket jewel because I did find it.

01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:27.522
[SPEAKER_01]: So here's what you need to do.

01:16:27.903 --> 01:16:29.565
[SPEAKER_01]: You get two suffixes of choice.

01:16:29.606 --> 01:16:32.030
[SPEAKER_01]: So two suffixes that you like on the jewel, okay?

01:16:33.662 --> 01:16:34.923
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you fill the prefixes.

01:16:35.263 --> 01:16:37.164
[SPEAKER_01]: Already I might got this, I can do this.

01:16:37.224 --> 01:16:39.685
[SPEAKER_01]: No problem, I understand how to do this part.

01:16:39.745 --> 01:16:45.708
[SPEAKER_01]: 5050 and a motion that lets you add a prefix or a suffix, I'm gonna read the rest real fast because I don't know any of the rest of this.

01:16:45.748 --> 01:16:51.010
[SPEAKER_01]: 5050 and a motion that lets you add prefix or suffix, desicrate plus almond loop until third, good suffix.

01:16:51.070 --> 01:16:55.012
[SPEAKER_01]: Then you chaos or buff the plus one suffix and spam till you hit a good prefix.

01:16:55.312 --> 01:16:58.774
[SPEAKER_01]: Then you 5050, 60% suffix effect.

01:16:58.874 --> 01:17:01.655
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have a clue what the rest of that stuff meant.

01:17:04.729 --> 01:17:12.911
[SPEAKER_01]: but that's how you make them so, you know, next time you need a jewel, come talk to me, I'll help you with my, with my three chaos orbs.

01:17:13.151 --> 01:17:14.291
[SPEAKER_01]: I will get on that.

01:17:14.331 --> 01:17:15.811
[SPEAKER_01]: Never use the chaos or review me too.

01:17:16.091 --> 01:17:19.072
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm probably should, I don't even totally know what they do.

01:17:19.112 --> 01:17:21.232
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't they like remove one modifier and add another?

01:17:21.392 --> 01:17:22.793
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm missing that, I don't get it.

01:17:22.933 --> 01:17:24.233
[SPEAKER_01]: What is the good part of that?

01:17:24.253 --> 01:17:25.393
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see it's value.

01:17:26.053 --> 01:17:29.354
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like that's a very expensive though, I don't get it.

01:17:31.465 --> 01:17:38.547
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you're using, it's probably the other combo of the thing I told you about the other day where they're like locking in almonds and doing all these other crazy stuff before they do it.

01:17:38.587 --> 01:17:38.807
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

01:17:39.187 --> 01:17:46.328
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I still, I've had my, I've had an almond that's waiting to be used with my exalt.

01:17:46.988 --> 01:17:47.949
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to add two.

01:17:48.449 --> 01:17:48.689
[UNKNOWN]: Two.

01:17:49.349 --> 01:17:49.609
[SPEAKER_01]: Two.

01:17:49.629 --> 01:17:51.589
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh, it's cracking.

01:17:51.609 --> 01:17:52.610
[SPEAKER_02]: Throw right here.

01:17:52.850 --> 01:17:53.610
[SPEAKER_02]: I got this.

01:17:53.730 --> 01:17:54.210
[SPEAKER_02]: I got this.

01:17:54.230 --> 01:17:57.310
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to use it on like a really crappy amulet.

01:17:57.351 --> 01:17:58.531
[SPEAKER_02]: Hoping for another 7% lightning risk.

01:17:59.852 --> 01:18:00.072
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

01:18:00.775 --> 01:18:01.296
[SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna nail it.

01:18:01.317 --> 01:18:02.541
[SPEAKER_01]: That woman's gonna be so worth it.

01:18:03.002 --> 01:18:03.283
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

01:18:03.805 --> 01:18:04.547
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, let's wrap this up.

01:18:04.648 --> 01:18:05.390
[SPEAKER_01]: Forever excelled.

01:18:05.691 --> 01:18:06.073
[SPEAKER_01]: 351.

01:18:06.253 --> 01:18:07.578
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just NakedTex.

01:18:07.979 --> 01:18:08.982
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Tyler Recker of Days.

01:18:09.243 --> 01:18:10.989
[SPEAKER_01]: Paige Tronz will catch you and after Dark everybody else.

01:18:11.009 --> 01:18:11.611
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see you next week.

01:18:11.631 --> 01:18:12.313
[SPEAKER_01]: Three, fifty, two.

01:18:12.334 --> 01:18:13.277
[SPEAKER_01]: Have a good one.