Sept. 13, 2026
CI Temptations
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[SPEAKER_01]: welcome to forever tell them just naked tags record of this little bit of a little bit of a great day yeah we would normally be finished by now and um we're just getting started it is so if forgive any um i don't know whatever i don't even know what the word would be about forgive any like
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a long time if we could get one on story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, but you know, this kind of stuff, like you don't know what we've been through the last hour.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All good things, all good things happy to be here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Episode... Oh shoot, uh... Three, six, one, six, one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dang.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a transition by to subtract by, I don't know, 30, 20 or 30, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot of episodes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot of lettuce.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's just a lot of episodes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a lot of episodes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So here we are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're doing it again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And big showtorch to our patrons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks everybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who resubbed up this past week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Patron gets the access to afterdark.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's our podcast after the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and we appreciate your support.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I gotta ask you how your week is, but first, for all those new listeners who might be hearing this for the first time, yeah, we talked to each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have a conversation about, we like to chat things, hold on, I also want to say that's why this is episode 361.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, otherwise we would have been pretty finished.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing, so like you might be tuning in to like only here about POE stuff and how the new POE week was or all that kind of stuff and I mean that's all cool and that's I mean obviously we're Path of Exile podcast, but don't worry we'll teach you but just give us a minute You're not gonna learn anything here, but uh, this is uh, it's more important here is perfect
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The reason we can, because we, because everybody is super interested in our real life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have these stars.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So how was a week?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've had a great week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kids started school this week and my son's a bit of a drama king, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: like understandably like he goes through stuff but he deals with things I the um my wife does too and so you know there's it's tough for him doing things and so he was nervous but excited and he'd go through like things with like yeah crazy excited look ah I can't handle this
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[SPEAKER_01]: and go in crazy and like so when he goes through his anxious moments, he's like almost like my daughter who's you know with the autism she just needs things clearly laid out her teacher this first week of school right so the teachers send these generic questionnaires to the parents sometimes and so this teacher's like you know what are her strengths, what are weaknesses, what would you like her to improve on that kind of stuff anything I should know about the kid
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[SPEAKER_01]: things you assume she does not assume if it's not part of the step-by-step process it's not gonna happen so like if you tell her to do this and this and this but one of those steps is like it doesn't say remember to breathe she's gonna be holding her breath all the time like exaggeration but that's that's how it is and anyway this school knows that of course
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what he's like as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you have to be like crazy, insanely clear, step-by-step, you know, breeze and take another step, our separate steps in the step-by-step process kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's been good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been, it's been an awesome week seeing them there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're both in middle school for the first time and it'll be the only year until two years into high school with violence two years in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of cool to walk in a school together, and my buddy, or sorry, not my buddy, my son's buddy, he used to always come to our house, to walk to elementary school with my son.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But now his house is closer to the middle school, so now Oliver's going the other direction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's kind of fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's all that new stuff for the kids, and they feel all grown up, but they feel all nervous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a friend that my daughter's intentionally trying to avoid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's not a good friend, and she's had a lot of problems with her over the last couple of years, but that friend's really attached to Violet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And one day they'll make a podcast together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Christina has been very encouraging to me to be that kind to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's very nice of her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a really good day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't twist it well enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, it's just one of those things where it's like, that friend needs more support than they're getting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they just don't understand the situations are right there, but they keep putting other kids that don't know better into really awkward or dangerous situations.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so my daughter's been trying to distance herself from that person, but really attached.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this was the new year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She wasn't sure how to deal with it and all that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like for me like it's all just like I love this part of parenting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's like I'm not like oh no where are they gonna come back with?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like you know sitting back I can't wait for them to come home and then we talk about the day and I don't know I just I love this part of parenting and seeing what they go through and You know kind of giving them like oh that sucks kind of attitude but also trying to be there for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's I don't know I really like it like I really enjoy this time of year so
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[SPEAKER_01]: and it's not like, you know, like those pushing 40 comics where it was like, you know, the mom's pushing the kid, she can't wait for the first day of school pushes the kids out the door and like yells after them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember the first one home has to walk the dog and do the dishes and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, not, you know, I love that, I love that, got his stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's not like that, like I just really enjoy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: watching them go through stuff and kind of hopefully helping them along.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's pretty neat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty neat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so anyway, it's just been that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just been that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And my wife roughly around the same time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She took her vacation time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So she's come back to work on a regular schedule around the same time that kids are going back to school and so we're all good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're all good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: it's really just based on the calendar like it's it's it's very it's been very stereotypical like I remember way back in the day when I lived in Ontario it was like spring was spring summer was summer fall was fall like you don't get rain in the summer and you only get it in the fall and it's very much like that the last few years where we've had like spring is spring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: tons of rain tons of sun summer don't even talk about rain you're not going to get it good luck and then fall comes and it's like boom as soon as September hits you have this like all right back down to the low 20s high teens and you're going to get that rain and so it's been been a it's been good for us three now how about you how's your week
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Life's good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Works busy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Life's busy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We, our kids are back to school too, where our second oldest graduates this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, how do we fund?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's in grade 12, sort of grade 12.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Seconds, graduating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he's in grade 12.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to ask you about him this morning, but we, the drive wasn't long enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so he's he's graduating this year, so that's cool, and then he's I'm I don't he bought he's it's really been fun because he got himself car like this past week, but I don't know if I'm allowed to say that so
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[SPEAKER_00]: But this regard, now I got to ask why you wouldn't be allowed to say that he's excited to share it with people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think he's told everybody that could be listening that's family related to it because he was just really excited to tell people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think I've passed that point of being allowed to say it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's really just been any listeners.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not allowed to bring it up to anybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't tell him if you heard that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but no, it's been fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been really fun watching him all five of our listeners or family members.
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[SPEAKER_00]: get it get his car all clean like he bought it was it was through the family which was really awesome just the way that it all worked out but cool but his own money yep yep his own money he saved he paid for his insurance all up front there's like a weird way for you to do insurance the way that the L and N and stuff works out here and so you can pay for
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[SPEAKER_00]: As an L, so a learner, they get cheaper insurance, and so if you wait till right before they're about to go for their end, then you can buy a year worth of insurance at that cheap price, and then he'll get that reduced price at least for the first roughly part of his end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're getting towards the point where an october he can do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It never crossed my mind that someone with the learners license could own a vehicle, but obviously they could.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess that never even crossed my mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got all cleaned up, fixed up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was laughing because my brother used to have a...
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[SPEAKER_00]: has like a plimmeth laser, I think is what it was, but he used to have a, um, it's the last time he even saw a plimmeth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but I think it was a plimmeth laser.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For some reason that's what's sticking out to me, but he, he, I mean, back when we were that age, we would go to like the Walmart or the Lord coer, the princess autos, or all these different places where you could go and get like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: car parts, you know, and maybe old stuff, and then you'd have like a stupid like skulls shift knob or like, you know, you're a gas pedal, and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a big, all his stuff was stupid and from Walmart, and I remember he had a, you know, you can get like tucking your brother right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Across his windshield, he had like a banner across
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it flew off from the highway one to the right all the way anyway, so It's been fun watching them do a stuff with this car though, but otherwise no life is good things are good We were you We watch friends at your friends and neighbors my friends and neighbors with the John Hamm Oh, I couldn't get past the first episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you thought so we forced ourselves past the first episode because we had been I had been told it was good So it did take us a little bit to get into it
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, it was, it was good, uh, Christina struggled with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, she, she doesn't like when there's like, and she's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's like, it's really uncomfortable where you just feel for the person and your nervous watching the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She, the best analogy she gave was that it, and I can remember this feeling when you watch meet the fuckers where you just like, come on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it just, it's a home-fable feeling that's how she felt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it wasn't like, she has problems with kids stuff in shows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It had nothing to do with his relationship with his kids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not, not, not since it's just you feel like a certain point because you know something, but in the story there,
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't know, and so then it's tough because you're essentially knowing more than what some of the other characters know, I wouldn't want to spoil anything so Anyway, it was good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We finished the first season of that, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, man, works good, really busy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Plates and POE this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am looking at some other games though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are some good games coming out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's like, it didn't see my name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Domain, now I'm just released into 1.0 and shrouded.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Coming out with theirs pretty soon, we got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, there's some good games out that I want to try out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a question for you about your video camera first, but before we get into that, you remember when GGG, they were like, sister, maddick, almost two of faults, almost not, but they would come out once every three months or else, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then,
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[SPEAKER_01]: What was that project red cyberpunk cyberpunk was coming out biggest release of the whoever's and Lloyd did it go well and GGG for the first time in their life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, paused and changed their schedule to accommodate that release.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably 50% because the people in charge of GGG schedule wanted to play it, but also because it obviously interferes with their numbers and interactions as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: this old for the first time ever they go outside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, that that backfired on GGG because cyberpunk at the was the worst launch on the planet and there's been some really bad launches out there and that one was the worst.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think now like path of exile?
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[SPEAKER_01]: to is the game the air PG community is looking out for planning around other people that are into air PGs are really either concerned or focused on the progress of path 2 and of course it's been very good but also
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very not good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The progress so far based on what the company has said versus what's come out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The company has said nothing, then the progress has been great, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what do you think?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been like for other companies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Seeing Path of Excel to state, like especially like the 0.5.5.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you, you were talking more Valheim, right, coming out with 1.0, they're like, sweet, so 4.5, 4.5 has nothing, let's launch, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They could have lots like, you know, postpone like 3 months, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think most, I don't know if most games pay attention to other games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do, it does make me laugh a little bit though that with Path of Exile, we had that whole thing around Cyberpunk, and this time it's like, they rushed to make sure they were coming out at the same time as Grand Death
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, ah, let's keep up with that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny, because there's a few games, most games you don't have to care about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They scratch different inches, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're in the mood for this, you're in the mood for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's some games that just all enveloping.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, in my house, we don't, like, the, when my wife got to the part of, what's, what's the last one, what, which GTA's coming out, six or five?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so five was the one with a teeth pulling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right shoot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that sounds right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That sounds like a trick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when once my wife got to that part of the story, she just couldn't play it anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like obviously, that's not a game where we're going to let our kids play, but there's certain games that
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[SPEAKER_01]: The world just is like, I'm going to try it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to play it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting it no matter what because blah, blah, blah, blah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's going to scratch something in GTA 6.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the rocks are always, does something phenomenal with their launches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They can afford to have a game once every six years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely a billion dollar game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like the price like they can
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[SPEAKER_01]: increase their price of their version of the game by 30 or 40 percent and nobody's going to blank a night they're still going to get the same sales obviously all assumptions but i'm talking in the assumptions here those are the ones the cyberpunks the GTA six is that you really got to be careful
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yet, at the same time, load launching two, three weeks before Christmas, and GGG led.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the most lucrative time of the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they have to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't think you're being stupid from GGG's perspective by no matter what's launching, even if unfortunately, one of those massive launches, like, cyberpunk or red dead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like cyberpunk just happened to be on the same day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I feel like there was something about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't just the same area.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they only postponed it by like oh, maybe it was a move.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, so it's like I don't think GGG Like two three most core Christmas has always been a staple for GGG and that Just all has always made sense to them because of how much money they make in that time frame concern to any other quarter So it sucks, but I'm what's the other option?
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[SPEAKER_01]: another year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, they have to do what they think is best for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I want another year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want another year of the beta, but we find, we find they'll figure it out as they go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, they will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been playing lots while I actually not lots, but I have played this week, but first, Justin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How'd you get your camera to work?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like today, chrome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was stuck in an update.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's literally all it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had no idea why.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In the in the system, I could see me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was seeing me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could hear me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything was working fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But for some reason, whatever the media connection was, all I did was update a chrome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really, and so but that prevented you from seeing me as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and vice versa.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Apparently it has to do with whatever the media thing was that we were testing it that is how I don't care I did was stupid, but I'm dead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good talk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh What I was reading theta's message What are you talking about and I was like I'm gonna do something about it
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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you talking about?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I think it's too late.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If the episode already starts, what is that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What did you put there?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is the Hardy Boys Detective Handbook.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just a nice, every troop crime solver needs it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice, lovely Tyler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lovely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In consultation with Special Agent WF Flynn, Federal Bureau of Investigation Retired, revised edition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am two thirds of the way done, book six, for, uh, dungeon crawler Carl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm enjoying six, five is still definitely one of my favorites after one, uh, but six has been very good so far.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been an enjoyable read, very big book, but it's, uh, it's I want to ask, I like, I want to know what's going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't want to go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't want to go along for the tedious.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I actually elf camera one day you'll have to ask me like tell me I love people reading.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, how many books are there do you remember?
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[SPEAKER_01]: 74.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think overtake So I remember it a video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, it's cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome having a series Like when I first got into the Shinaria series even though it wasn't like my favorite authorship I was like okay, let's read book two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's read book three and then all of sudden I'm like all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's let's see how what I'm getting into here and I was like
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome getting into a series that's huge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's been special when you don't realize it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's exciting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, let's suck Path of Exile.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did look at the things and there were a couple that I kept open, but otherwise, you crackle in in my crackle in, uh, no, okay, you're crackling to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So right now, even while I'm speaking, now, no, but before, as soon as you start talking path back, we're just when I like to know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I, I tried to kill one of the tabs, the other tabs, so I just won't click any tabs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So,
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[SPEAKER_00]: lead the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: September 18th, 2020.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mac, Path Vexal was released.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Six years now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mac has been a part of the family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's nice for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, black sheep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Get out of here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, probably can't use that anymore, eh?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure you can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm making it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still getting crackly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll get crackly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got ya.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't looked back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, it wasn't anything in path to land.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they had some races.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The racing path.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The races.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The...
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but if you click on every single one, I actually kind of want to comment on this, but I don't have numbers for it, but every single hot fix with the exception of a few bug fixes, it's all crash stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, there were a few that I, I'm, I'm going to try and drag this to my other monitor to see if it will let me do this without being crackly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, uh, is hopefully it's staying not crackly right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so they, yeah, they came up with a bunch of them that it was the 0.5.5.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think don't anything to add a number for, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't it just hotfix after hotfix?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they eventually got to be?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so they had, they're only two that I made a note of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One was,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know this was the thing, but I was like, what happened?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, you know that I pay for that carry, the fourth ascendancy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hate the fourth ascendancy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like a sending very much all in Path of Exile, but the fourth ascendancy to me is just too long to go and do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do they typically use, which one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I've always done it in the second one because you load in right before they go fight the final boss and you're just sitting in the room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You wait there, they kill it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You you portal in and whatever, but anytime I've done it, I just go into a the trade eight 20.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think is what it's called and I don't know the best way to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's just the way that I do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just wait and read comments and people will be saying, like, selling fourth ascension, whatever, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so people were doing that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, okay, sweet, okay, it was cheap too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I don't even know it was maybe 30 or 40 results.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very cheap, because typically it's like one or two defines.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I get an invite from this person and they say, pay after I'm like, okay, fine, without it, that's normal as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I click on their thing and they say go, and all of a sudden, the trial of a trial
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, go through and go up the elevator or go through the side, do what they tell me to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I go click.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You go into this room and there's like 40 portals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's, I've never seen that before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were so many portals on top of portals, and it was the end of the trial of chaos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I was right into the end spot with trial of chaos, where you can just click the thing and get your fourth essentially.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, that's so weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I click the thing, get my fourth essentially, trade the person, their 40 results.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Turns out that that was a bug that people were able to beat the trial of chaos, and then just
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[SPEAKER_00]: constantly invite as many people as they want it into it and it just oh you could just get yeah so sounds like one of those people one of those things that gg would ban people over knowing that it's exploiting something well i was a little bit curious too because that you couldn't not know you were exploiting now i didn't know
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[SPEAKER_00]: At the time, I didn't know it was going on, but afterwards when I read this, I was like, that makes sense because I'd never seen it before where there were, like, you couldn't have had that many portals in a normal group.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, I didn't see anything in the hot fix about them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They just said that they fixed a bug that allowed players to join and already completed trial at chaos and claim ascendancy points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, only players in the instance of the time, the boss dies can claim points, which is how it worked in trial a second.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not sure if this was a result of their trial of chaos updates that they did, but good they put you in the sentence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would have paid for it no matter what.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the only other one that I saw was the one that just came out with it was a September 7.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They fixed a bug where
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, sorry, that was in the one that just came out today, 0.5 point B, or whatever, yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I never mind, the other half, I didn't really care about, but the B patch expedition wasn't even loading an endgame.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in again, and game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even realize that I had not seen a single expedition through all the tiers of maps, and I'm like, wow, like zero expedition bugs, this is a work of real, we do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a weird thing to miss because I don't know what would have changed, but yes, so now Expedition can spawn in endgame but
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, other than that, nothing really stood out to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lots of crashes and fixes and stuff that I read.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't experience any crashes myself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's just find it just goes to show how complicated the game is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because from the user perspective, this is the least change, least interesting patch that League that GGG's ever done path one end to with the exception of maybe way back when the game originally launched.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so for there to be like there was a lot of fixes, a lot of crashes of different varieties that needed to be fixed and just goes to show even like sure they made some end game changes right but then like the campaign stuff was really just ritual like the game itself didn't have a lot of added content it was just more integrated content and to have that many crashes regarding everything it's just just shows like sucks for them, but it was just surprising for me as somebody who doesn't know anything about that stuff to see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing being added to the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing with quotes, of course, and then seeing so many crashes being fixed over and over and over, it just goes to show how complicated and integrated the game is, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I hope, I think another criticism I was just surprised to see that considering, you know, quantity versus what they were fapping to fix.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I feel for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Microsoft is a bit definitely that they need to figure their shit out with regards to
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[SPEAKER_00]: crazy sometimes with the load times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just I don't have a machine that should be having me sitting there for a load time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if that's because of your mtx, then give me the option to turn it off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's not fair that I've other people's mtx.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like let me have the option to turn this off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that it's a selling feature for them, but then limit it to whatever's happening in King's March and in the act one spot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is so noticeable when you go into those zones versus back to your hideout or whatever Just be something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope they figure something out because I just find it super frustrating I play on the series s x box series s not the x we have the x down stairs the better ones We have I don't have some stairs the s is the worst one and that's the one I play on we have that one upstairs It's to encourage the kids to go downstairs and play a record and
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is why I put, but I play most of my gameplay on the S, the worst one, and it's just funny, sometimes how the difference between, like if I, essence strain contagion, I did a tiny bit of that this week, if I essence strain contagion, a massive group is that performs better than some moving around and just a town.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, yeah, in one of the apps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope they figure that out because it gets I just find that annoying, but I did play a lot this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So lots of people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, because we've recorded last week, but then I don't remember was that the start of the league last week or was it a whole week before that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think last week was the beginning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's only been going for a week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we started right after.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't get this week one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we just started our characters when we recorded last time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, we didn't have them even created in, I remember we had it in the main episode, last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and it was between the main episode and afterdark that we got chance to play because we recorded before the league started.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I did play a lot because I'm almost 92 now and I didn't know I mean it's stupid it's just a dummy on my part but they weren't kidding when they said that it was an event ritual event because it is holy crap as a rituals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was really cool through
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really funny when you come across a ritual and there's no boss there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, fuck, it's boring, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on
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[SPEAKER_01]: Better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it's like to have such sexy friends just and but man you're looking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What were you talking about?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, rituals!
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[SPEAKER_01]: So...
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm skipping rituals, but I'm loving rituals in campaign.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, or you don't campaign.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, not done campaign.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm only an X3.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're awesome in campaign.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were so fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're, they're fun to, like, add to a certain point, but then they just get tedious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I thought they were like, they were, they were well spaced apart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You couldn't miss them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just love the boss a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That part's
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to fight the boss again, I want to keep moving on, like to me it's just it's it's a time thing I really just want to move on, I would love it, but for me I got to the point of tediousness not saying the rewards aren't good, I'd even sang a poorly spaced out, not saying anything, there's just some
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, my damage isn't great, but I also don't think it's bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's at a decent point of balance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I'm trying, I'm kind of like stretching a build idea to see if it works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm actually quite pleased with how it's worked out so far.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, it, the original boss fights still just taking too long for me to, being like, okay, yeah, let's do this again for this with other bosses as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not necessarily a criticism for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It could be because I'm not doing enough damage, but the game also doesn't do a great job of letting you know that, hey, you're an idiot for using this skill that we're providing you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You should be using this skill instead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's still very path of X, all one in that regard, but which skills are good or not?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know which skills are good or not for the things that I'd like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but the boss encounters are just like, okay, I did the mighty silver fist and I don't want to do it a second time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, the only benefit you're getting out of it is extra loop and the challenge league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And no joke.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All I'm looking for is resist throughout the whole campaign.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all I'm looking for like my other characters and standards that are in in game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still at 50% resist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's not drop, and I'm not crafting it the way that I should, whatever it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm still at 50% resist, I'm not cats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, through the campaign, all I care about are resist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the rituals, unless it has resists, the only thing I'm picking up are those transmutes and Augs, or certain exalts that it keeps throwing at me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is fun, just even getting that fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what helps me with my resists are my assences.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not my transmutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not my Augs and it's not my exalts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just saving my results for the higher tier items and then they must have changed something to do with what do they call them now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they augments?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they socketables?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the official term?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd have to check the filter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I forget which one they change it to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I swear gear is dropping way more with sockets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did notice that, but I think I noticed that at the start of 0.55, so like not this one, but the last one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what I'm short on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what I've been saving.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's add this in because I know this boss, you know, Gregory's going to have cold.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows what, what does Jean or do?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's yellow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm actually have a post coming up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to do physical and funny because, well, you have, like, I'm actually going to make a post about, um, the like they're ever going to see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they will hopefully they do, but maybe they won't, um, a boat like how damage,
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[SPEAKER_01]: is communicated to the user.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So fire for the most part is relatively standard, but cold is blue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But lightning is also blue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, lightning is blue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In the loading screen, lightning has a yellow text, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the help thing and the loading screens that you never want to see, that's yellow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But in the game, oh, actually, that's true, Lightning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every single
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, so it's a whole dammit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Jamir causes lightning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what happens when you have yellow?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing in the game says that lightning is yellow and then all of a sudden like all the things that the user has are blue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so now this is yellow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I probably lightning, but that's a guess and that's not that's not really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then all of a sudden you get these orange pusses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: right when you're underground and didn't act one and all that kind of stuff like what that what is orange what am I supposed to improve to mitigate orange move and you have like but sure sometimes there's red right remember like Gregory he's got the red beams okay well nothing in the game is red but GGG's used to red being physical but there's nothing in the game that tells the user that that red is physical and there's nothing in the game besides
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then all of a sudden, it's like, okay, well, I see like red spark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some bosses have like red, but it looks like sparks, like what am I supposed to do with that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What, what, what, what's red?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there's a lot of inconsistencies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're CI, what's the difference between green projectiles and purple projectiles?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're immune to chaos damage, but one of them hurts you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, like there's a lot of inconsistency that's coming towards the user in terms of this is the color that's going to hurt you, what can you use to mitigate that and there's just a crazy amount of inconsistency and I do not remember what you said that brought that up, but it's relevant and you're welcome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've never, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to derail you, you were talking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember what we were talking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, a Jamir Quay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you brought up the Jamir Quay and not knowing what the damage is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then like, you know, like, you know, it's like, I like the augments and the sockets and I'm like, okay, I know, kind of like in like path one, you're like, okay, sweet, like there's going to be a lot of cold damage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, water damage, honestly in path one, even like path one's horrible for communicating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The person will assume water damage is cold damage, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you're act one, you know, it's cold damage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you want your familiar with it, you know to stack up your cold resist, and then, you know, you know for act three with, um, what's the space?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dominus by the like to go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dominus, yeah, you know, you know to stack up your lightning and all that kind of stuff and please So yeah, so yeah, I mean you get used to that in path to and so it's that's what I like about the sockets Okay, I know what boss I'm coming up to or endgame or end of act boss I'm coming up to accept nobody knows what kind of damage
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jumera Quay does, I feel like it's bad, but I don't want it either, but you don't want a guess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't give you the resources to guess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They give you the resources barely to know, barely enough to really focus on it, and then just get 75 of all of them tie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Easy peasy, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but I love the socket system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, once you're familiar with the game and once the game communicates more efficiently to the user, the socket system is really cool and lets you actually adapt to that situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: right even have some things on the sides like okay sweet like this is good for generic resist but i'm coming up to this boss and this one okay so i put my socket into this one my augment is good and i don't like that so anyway the crafting gets i do enjoy it want to get later into it too like getting into the abyss stuff that you can do for crafty and it's fun i quite a bit of fun actually like
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot to it, but it's fun for crafting gear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So do you do that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do you go out of your way?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because for me, it's so inconvenient to go to these locations and do these things that I do, but I have to do that in any of this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll do like crafting, because it is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't like it because I don't actually, so here's a question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't actually know the answer to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When you are playing through the campaign, you unlock the lightless passage, which takes you to talk to the little weird snakeyhead do that runs under the ground for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how it can be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew that was, I know that's what that quest is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I haven't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but it's in like act fight through three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You go to find it, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like an act three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's two or three, yeah, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so you go and find it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: then you have to do it again like it's like oh go to this the well of souls in this spot and it's like you have to travel to it through the Atlas to get to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to bring up this whole part in a second because it relates to something else but if it travel to it what I've never been able to figure out is is there a difference who has to which one I go to if I'm ever doing the unveiling because
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[SPEAKER_00]: Part of my brain goes like, are they penalizing me for using the easy one, which is just go to my way point, click the one on the far right and go to it versus like, do you have a chance at better roles, better roles, yeah, yeah, because the endgame one sucks man because if I'm worked up and I'm up in some other part of the Atlas and then I need to go back to it, just to get to it again and then travel and then have to open up portals to it travel to seems very odd, but I do what I hope not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do go to my way because the, yeah, your ability to craft something like you're a super fun, super easy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, there's a benefit to farming to bits and then using that currency on items, and then playing with it, like just seeing what you get.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've done it a lot with the, um, was the rattling sector that has the, the skeleton skeletons, just to use the one that gives you six mods on it and you just
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[SPEAKER_00]: See what you get?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You get to pick for each one, three choices.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm so curious if I'm going to like path to like I love path to his gameplay so much more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The intention they have, the attention they put into all the details of the game that it seemed from the user's perspective.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were apathetic to path one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it just naturally path 2 is going to be a better game for me, but how they deal with end game stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really curious, once the game's all settled and figured out, and this is the way we want path 2 compared to path 1, I'm really curious which one I'm going to like more, because I always assume it was going to be path 2 just because of the gameplay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm curious if the layout of path 1 is going to be more encouraging or attractive, then the gameplay of path 2, because in path 1,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can cancel out almost all aspects of gameplay that I don't like from the outless past century.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can say I don't want this crap to show up and I'm one of those users where I actually dislike almost every league that they have as core.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do not like so much of it and I'm blocking almost all of them and I wish I could block some of the what they call the masters as well like I don't like Alva right and I don't
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[SPEAKER_01]: and I have that freedom in path 1, but in path 2, they have the aspect of this section's dedicated to this league, this section's dedicated to this league, and what if you don't like those things?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, you could ignore that, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: What about just blocking it out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What about making the gameplay like you have in path one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just customizing it to the experience that I'd like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's close to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the things that are part of the main atlas, so you've got like essences and shrines and strong boxes and rogue excels.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Summoning circles and...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whisps, those are things that are built into it that you can't get rid of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All of the other ones that are on the outside, they are going to be more, did you get a chance to get them, but you're actually more going to be fortunate with tablets, like you're using the tablets to force if you want to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so if you want whatever else, that doesn't mean you can't run into it, because they can run it, they can be as modifiers on the Alice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there is definitely some work that they still need into their progression of endgame.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Shoot was it like just like 5.5 yeah, it's it's it's new and that's what they're running into 1.0 with which is fine because I know there's no way that this version of end game is the finished product.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just cannot be like sure How many times have they they changed path ones and game just because of game of eternal progression, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, and like this is the only this is the first reason we've had since this change in the Alice and for anyone who has progressed
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[SPEAKER_00]: the Atlas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's TDS, like, even currently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they could make it so much better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of my biggest frustrations with it is that
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[SPEAKER_00]: You start in the middle and you have to go up towards the top left to the fortress, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're working towards the fortress.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fortress is what is going to give you Alice points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The main Alice points to this huge 350 plus Alice pass of tree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the right that you can get that you can come, I forgot you can completely fill it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You will eventually just fill out all the spots.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the fortress.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the fortress is progressed on its own.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you've got a best-down here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got delirium down here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got ritual over here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got breached down at the bottom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's just based on the direction you go on the three-dimensional map.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you don't pick it just this is where the abyss section is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is where the right tool section is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But to get the points in any of those mechanics, so a bit breach ritual, you have to first travel to them and then you have to do sort of like the little quest line that that comes which I don't mind that there's a quest line actually thing that's quite cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I can't progress two things at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I, I want to progress my Atlas passives because that's what's gonna help me sustain maps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna get like better gear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The content's gonna be harder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the Atlas passive is what I need.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if I wanna farm a biss, I need the Abyss points, but I can't progress the fortress, which is my main focus to get the Atlas passives.
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[SPEAKER_00]: While still getting points for,
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[SPEAKER_00]: of this or the other ones and I find it weird like even if I put a tablet in which means I'm going to force a biscontent give me a freaking point like give me something it just it because it means that I have to go to different spots in order to progress it's purposefully making it take way longer because I want to focus on the Atlas Passives that's where my biggest thing is but I need
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[SPEAKER_00]: the benefit of that list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to be able to enforce some increased drops of almonds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to be able to make the abysses drop more of the things that I need to progress my character while I'm progressing my atlas in the fortress.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's weird right now because you're so stuck that you can't do two things at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You are forced to go into another area.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really want to do a this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want the content of a this, but I want the Atlas passes and then like the Alice just just the progressing of finishing your 350 points you go into the middle then you go to the two sides and you go back to the middle and then you go to the two sides and you go back to the middle then you go to two sides and then you get to finally do the final version of the boss.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, and then if you just do the minimum amount of maps you need to do in your kill a boss, then you hit the little pillar at the top and it completely completes that quadrant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just get a boatload of points based on, I don't know if you ever thought that final boss on the very top, but...
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has six towers that you can click on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you click on one of those six towers, that whole imagine that the Imagine that the whole fortress is broken up into essentially a three by three cubed with the center being where the tower is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Clicking on one of those eight towers will completely finish that quadrant of the fortress.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you'll get like a 40 points in one hit that you get on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you could just buy those, those, um, those things to just fight that boss again and then click the next quadrant and then fill it all out or you go back down into the fortress and you're just, oh, no, you go back into the Atlas story and you're finding those pillar those beams right the red blue beams to do the iron citadel or whichever they are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did the map, I got the credit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And P-O-E-2, it's not like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's where did you do the map?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then what credit do you get based on that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just find that hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like the progression of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the key.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the key.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How you've described the progression makes no sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not progression.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the same person that loves going back and forth between NPCs to progress a quest line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is done the endgame.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You remember when past one had, all right, yeah, to beat the minute or all right, now you have to earn the drop for the chimera.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, now you have to earn the drop for the center.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then once you write, but it was all just like, it was very systematic and it all made sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This despite the fact that there might be some QOL added to it, it does not seem from your description anyway that it that it makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it just it doesn't have like a of a flow of progression.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What the progression is, the tedious and then here's a massive reward as opposed to an incremental reward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is progress, but you're only able to progress that single thing at a time and that's not really how path of exile in the Atlas has ever been before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, when I progressed the Atlas and P.O.E.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get the Alice point and then you're choosing what you're adding on to it, but there wasn't a whole different tree that I had to worry about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't mind that there's a separate tree like that's fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't really know what their hope is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're hope that I'm actually going to, like, if you think of when you first start, where you first start on the Alice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The first set of maps you do, you will not get anything for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Besides XP and drops, there's no Atlas point drops, there's no whatever, you're either working towards the fortress to start your allies passive or you're working towards a base or you're working towards breach or you're working towards delirium.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But those travel nodes give you nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just travel nodes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: getting any point out of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not progressing anything except I want to say anything and I realize I'm saying that you're only progressing your character.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do understand the progressing your character is a big deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But from the perspective of the Atlas, you're not doing anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're just traveling to that spot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you have to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish they found some way to combine them where I want to progress the fortress in the Atlas because that's the main, that's what affects every single map that I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's tough because they've decided to make the endgame outless like Delph.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just never ending.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can't give a point per map, but at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you like you're wasting your time?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, because after 350 maps you're done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but that's the, it's, what's weird is where the fortress is, if you wanted to, you could get all of your points by just finishing every single node within the fortress.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, from, from that regards, yeah, if you,
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[SPEAKER_01]: That then that makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why not just give a point per map right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you saying it away you go because right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get the encourages you to the 350 maps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're trying to tell a story which I get like they're trying to tell this story questline in the Ungame but they're doing it in a way that's forcing my hand and what I really just what really bothers me is I can't progress my Atlas which is the main thing while still maintaining or progressing one of the mechanics or vice versa
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't make any sense to me, so yeah, and it is too bad because at the end of the day and it sucks for the people that put all the Reference into the story, but the story is secondary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People aren't like, oh, have you seen Path of Exile's story?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like their newest addition to the story, this league, we got to play it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all about character progression in the story of secondary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, saying that people don't love it or appreciate it and enjoy it, it's just...
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a theory crafting game and a story is with it as opposed to a story-based game and how are you going to play through it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for most people I assume and so it's it's tough when the theory crafting or the customization of the game revolves too heavily behind the lore of the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Understandably it needs to be connected in summer guards, but when it's too much and it actually hinders the process or the progress of the Original concept of the game, which is theory crafting then yeah, that's it's too bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It shouldn't conflict with each other, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember Dragon's dogma one was phenomenal for that
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[SPEAKER_01]: no matter how you chose to play the game, the story, the progress of fast travel, all aspects and mechanics of the game perfectly intertwined together and it was such a well done game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they missed that in Dragon's Dogma 2, the types of builds that you could make in the character development that you had and the theory crafting that you had, the
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[SPEAKER_01]: did by no means correspond properly to the story that they were trying to tell and the things that they forced you into through the storytelling and it really screwed up the game in that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In the second game it totally conflicted and really screwed up the excitement and the progress and the fun of the game, whereas the first game really, really nailed it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have my, obviously, very strong criticisms to the first game of Path of Excel, but one thing that Path of Excel does as well as the story does not get in the way ever or at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, I don't, I don't know if it gets in the, I just find the way that they're doing it is odd, like I just,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, being forced to do that and only progress that one thing, like, I did the campaign already.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to progress your storyline anymore, like I'm in 10 game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to map, I want to go, yeah, do my stuff and it's spoke killing crap now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like, I just wanted, I'm going to talk to you about my building a second, but I just needed to anoint my amulet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You cannot just annoy your amulet unless you progress the storyline down into the delirium section and get to the tree and then talk to the wizard and then talk to the tree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't exist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the only way to annoy your amulet in the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just that was a bit frustrating for me even though it's not much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I understand it's only like two six maps you'll get over there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd I did But it's just maybe I just have to adjust the fact that that's the way they're changing it, but there's 350 nodes on that freaking out this past century I just it's weird to me to lock the progression of it behind and they have actually locked progression of their own trees to the storyline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So a this for example
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I go and do the Abyss storyline, the Abyss storyline says you need to go up and close the north gate, then there's three of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to travel these nodes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Each of those nodes would give you a point into the Abyss tree, and you work up towards it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you get, because you can still get points on the abyss tree from, you know, connected maps that say plus one for abyss, but you can actually stall out and have more points and not able to spend them because they've locked paths within their own tree to the quest line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, it just seemed, and they've done that even in the hours passive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I get enough points and I want to focus on just going straight up the right side,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't, they lock them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're locked behind doing different parts of the quest line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, well, don't do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no need to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I choose to be some dummy who just right loads the whole Atlas straight up to something I want, that's, that's what, like, letting me aim to do do encourage gameplay that don't have RPGS back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't understand why they've done that and then you can't unspeak now right in the in the Atlas Passive So you actually need to be a bit careful as you're progressing because you could make some stuff very very difficult for yourself If you're not paying attention to you can't respect the no person because it's a you can respect some of the big
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[SPEAKER_00]: keystones to just pick a different option, but you can't unspeak anything in the outspass of it because it's you'll get enough points for every single thing and so they get, I guess they just decided not really sure why it seems like it would have been a decent way to get people to spend some gold early on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have a struggle with the progression right now in the Atlas N game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, the fact that I'm 92, I still haven't, and I know it's on me, but I haven't done any maps for fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've done only maps that are to progress into the fortress or primarily a bis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I've just did something to get down to Delirium.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've done nothing else for fun, and I'm 92.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still haven't progressed that I'm doing T15s,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm working towards the final fight, which will give me my first hit of the, uh, at the top of the tower.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it should boring, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really boring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really too bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is actually that I'm not in the same part of the game that you are, but I'm finding the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The fun per hour is not there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you're not, like you said, like that should be a really big testament to how they go forward, making decisions based on their endgame content, because that's why people plays endgame.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are, how am I doing this for fun?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is fun about this encounter?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I feel like they need to get the Atlas back to how POE-1 was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt the joy of the endgame.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The second I did my very first map in POE-1.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That progression of the Atlas right into, it started right off the very first map.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved it in POE-1.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't get that in POE-2.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, it's so weird to me that for POE-2, your first introduction to the Atlas passive is go do these maps, but don't get anything out of them for now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Besides character progression, I do understand you get gear and love a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'll make them too hard, or you don't get any chances.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I cannot believe I don't have a lot of time thing is still in the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that it is still if you die to the boss, fuck your whole map.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How is that still in the game?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's shocking to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You lose your whole ritual, you lose everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they've built ritual around this thing of if you're lucky enough to get a boss in the ritual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You actually would rather do that one first because in the boss will carry for the whole rest of the rituals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you die one time, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything's gone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All the stuff you've earned up for in that ritual, deleted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's the thing that's crazy about this 2026 release instead of 2027.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know 2027's a whole year away, but you have all of this balancing and figuring out all these decisions to me like yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the way we want to our core game for December.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have all I think it's decisions to make.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think some, I think one more, I know it's coming out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But who does if that changes good and that changes good and that changes good and that changes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It won't get tested yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's no, it's all cohesive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't just add base types and think your filter is going to be fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you have to like you you it's such an incremental process over and over and over and they've done well with some of the things that they've had so far they've been very willing to bend on some things like what they just did with the cows trials of chaos this this go around awesome it was way better the second now you're making all these absolutely monumental core foundational changes for one point oh it's one change away one patch away
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, all of it, okay, so you haven't done, you're not in game yet, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: To now I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, it's gonna take me forever because I just, there's other things I'd rather do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am fine, like I enjoy the idea that I have, but the gameplay itself is relatively tedious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I'm just going to tell you my last complaint before I tell you about my character and talk to you about your character because this I do have one more, okay, this is a ritual event, they came out with updates to ritual and change ritual, terrible, whoever, however, some of these decisions were made, I, okay, I actually can't even try to understand where their brains at when I start a ritual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I kill the mobs, I do whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And rituals always can be difficult, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Based on your build, the defense offense, like they are difficult, you're fighting in circle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can get over that up until this release.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It existed all up since POE 2 and ritual has existed, but this release, they changed two big things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One, there's no more shortcut anywhere in the map, to open up the ritual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to be at the ritual tree to open up the ritual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Terrible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's an awful thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I get to the end of the map and I'd realize I go shit I didn't get my ritual reward I have to run back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not even marked on the map.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to try to remember Where was the list ritual that I did?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got rid of the shortcut key to open up the ritual anywhere in the map
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even worse, you cannot open the ritual at all until you've completed the final one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So as I'm going through and there's maybe three or four rituals in the map, I beat the ritual, but I can't click the tree to be like, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I'm done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need to do the last one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to find the last one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you can open it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I cannot imagine that those two changes were somebody going like, yeah, this makes the most sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: on they had to have been overlooked that i just why would you remove the ability to just open up the ritual anywhere that was the best part if i got to the end of the map and was like shit which i've done
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[SPEAKER_00]: everybody does now have to find it and it's not even like it's on the mini map.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't pull it up and see like, you know, you can hold down on the or the down, uh, D pad and like scroll around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some things show up on their but rituals are not one of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but then to not be able to open them until you're done, those are just those things were really done, really, really dumb choices for how to deal with ritual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: ritual in mapping is getting also tedious and I realize to ritual event so that's what it is but it's on every map, every single map has rituals and there's just uniques, the rewards are such garbage in rituals like it's just your recycling looking at really, really bad uniques.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that there's probably people that have gotten lucky and gotten some really good ones but
01:00:10.781 --> 01:00:14.964
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so ritual was it's a bit frustrating for me.
01:00:15.024 --> 01:00:18.486
[SPEAKER_00]: I need to be able to open up wherever I am and don't make me do all of them.
01:00:18.566 --> 01:00:20.848
[SPEAKER_00]: What if I don't want to I don't play my game for me.
01:00:20.908 --> 01:00:21.188
[SPEAKER_00]: GG.
01:00:21.208 --> 01:00:23.409
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me play my game anyway.
01:00:24.030 --> 01:00:25.851
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I want to hear about your character.
01:00:25.871 --> 01:00:26.471
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to talk about mine.
01:00:27.172 --> 01:00:30.954
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, just want to say something to new listeners.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know some of the stuff might sound petty if you've never played the game before or your own own you've only played path to but
01:00:40.160 --> 01:00:56.132
[SPEAKER_01]: Path 1 players have quite a few years of being able to manipulate their gameplay by design through GGG and Path of Excel 2's experience is a lot more handcuffed and a lot less.
01:00:58.153 --> 01:01:02.096
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot less freedom compared to Path 1.
01:01:02.576 --> 01:01:07.220
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of our criticisms are just simply because we have Path 1 to compare too.
01:01:08.213 --> 01:01:13.297
[SPEAKER_00]: There are also so many of them that are like, at any tiny bit change away from being awesome.
01:01:13.697 --> 01:01:26.947
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, sure, stop fucking my whole map when I buy a di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, hopefully, but like, it ain't what it goes, Corey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If that was particular changes, go, Corey, my God.
01:01:43.757 --> 01:01:49.142
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to have been, I'm hoping it was just something this, because it doesn't make any sense.
01:01:49.242 --> 01:01:51.964
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, how's your turn?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
01:01:53.506 --> 01:01:55.127
[SPEAKER_01]: I got about 10 minutes before I got signed off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'll tell you about my career.
01:01:56.568 --> 01:01:57.309
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you about my career.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Difficultity, because of the difficulty at the beginning,
01:02:00.992 --> 01:02:02.153
[SPEAKER_01]: My character's good.
01:02:02.373 --> 01:02:05.335
[SPEAKER_01]: I started this the I send it as the smithicataba.
01:02:06.156 --> 01:02:11.559
[SPEAKER_01]: My first two options were mitigating chaos damage and crit damage.
01:02:12.300 --> 01:02:13.981
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to wear a white chest for that, right?
01:02:14.021 --> 01:02:14.641
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:02:15.202 --> 01:02:21.326
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'll keep going all my other ascensions are going to be within that same section as well of the ascendancy.
01:02:22.046 --> 01:02:24.468
[SPEAKER_01]: But then I'm going I'm currently using
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[SPEAKER_01]: excuse me.
01:02:29.252 --> 01:02:32.254
[SPEAKER_01]: The siphon skill from the wand, I forget what it's called.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, siphon.
01:02:33.815 --> 01:02:37.377
[SPEAKER_01]: No, the one that calls power siphon.
01:02:37.497 --> 01:02:38.537
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, power siphon.
01:02:38.798 --> 01:02:43.220
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I have added or lightning, a tunement to that and living lightning.
01:02:44.181 --> 01:02:52.645
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I've progressed enough where I can now do some tree swapping between having minion mitigation and simply just no mitigation,
01:02:56.527 --> 01:03:01.653
[SPEAKER_01]: or permanent minions, and so I have just unlocked level 9 gems.
01:03:01.733 --> 01:03:16.069
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm using Revers for that, and then with the calling that I'm using, I'm able to use a lot of the bosses throughout the process, I have ads, so I'm able to use zombies with the calling like I get a power charge with the calling, and then I can add zombies.
01:03:16.529 --> 01:03:20.072
[SPEAKER_01]: zombies are secondary to the build, but whenever I have a power charger at the zombie button.
01:03:20.172 --> 01:03:21.513
[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's working well.
01:03:21.533 --> 01:03:22.373
[SPEAKER_01]: It's progressing great.
01:03:22.433 --> 01:03:31.380
[SPEAKER_01]: The damage is definitely there, despite the fact that I had 8 billion travel notes to start getting to the, from starting from the warrior to get into the impactful notes.
01:03:31.540 --> 01:03:32.301
[SPEAKER_01]: But, um...
01:03:32.913 --> 01:03:48.897
[SPEAKER_01]: I really want to try this build idea out, I really want to see it through the campaign as tedious, and so it's not very motivating to get through, like the character isn't as like, so far I haven't found any experience in path to exciting enough to really want to play.
01:03:49.377 --> 01:03:49.817
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
01:03:49.837 --> 01:03:52.998
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember more of the tediousness of it than the excitement of my character.
01:03:53.438 --> 01:03:57.459
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that's just me, or if that's just how the game is designed.
01:03:57.739 --> 01:04:00.340
[SPEAKER_01]: I seem to remember it differently for path 1, but again,
01:04:02.177 --> 01:04:23.690
[SPEAKER_01]: person playing a game so who knows which where that falls but I'm in act 3 for myself to play a little bit and for the most part I'm enjoying it yeah sure tedious but I'm also enjoying it you know what I mean like it's kind of like on both sides my uh series so big or I don't want to do that boss again so I don't do the ritual but when I level up I'm like sweet what's next and then you know I see what's next and
01:04:24.470 --> 01:04:34.496
[SPEAKER_01]: So looking forward to going through the rest, I am in X3, just killed Silver fist, like I said, Kill Jameric Way, I hate that fight, it's so stupid, but did it first try?
01:04:35.976 --> 01:04:43.200
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeffries, what's his name, Gregory, Jeffrey, he at the end of act one, whatever it is that I did that.
01:04:43.821 --> 01:04:46.262
[SPEAKER_01]: Did that first try, but it was also very, um,
01:04:48.007 --> 01:04:50.188
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a good fight, like they've made some changes to that fight.
01:04:50.368 --> 01:04:54.689
[SPEAKER_01]: There's still some skills, especially the beams that come down that you don't actually react to.
01:04:54.709 --> 01:04:56.289
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to tell where they're going to hit.
01:04:56.649 --> 01:04:59.070
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, but it's not a reaction skill.
01:04:59.130 --> 01:05:00.631
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a hope you're in the right spot.
01:05:00.791 --> 01:05:01.151
[SPEAKER_01]: Skill.
01:05:01.751 --> 01:05:02.511
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
01:05:02.791 --> 01:05:06.452
[SPEAKER_01]: And everything to do with Jumeraquay is just stupid.
01:05:06.512 --> 01:05:08.013
[SPEAKER_01]: There's so many things that...
01:05:10.033 --> 01:05:12.615
[SPEAKER_01]: Require you to have done the fight.
01:05:13.076 --> 01:05:29.088
[SPEAKER_01]: I had a time and have a lot of experience with the fight to properly deal with it There's it's not a good fight for tells how they do the lightning throw in the first phase and Just the how busy it is with how big the Torneidos are.
01:05:29.108 --> 01:05:33.811
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that's another thing going back into the like the color scheme like what kind of damage is gray?
01:05:34.652 --> 01:05:39.894
[SPEAKER_01]: What does tornadoes do, what am I, what am I mitigating there, how, what am I, yeah, air, right?
01:05:40.974 --> 01:05:47.797
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, like, there's just so it's just not a good, like, act to really, you know, come on.
01:05:48.257 --> 01:05:50.438
[SPEAKER_01]: And the back to I have nowhere to stand.
01:05:51.118 --> 01:05:52.219
[SPEAKER_01]: No time to hit you.
01:05:52.259 --> 01:05:55.280
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I could not imagine playing this game, mainly.
01:05:55.620 --> 01:06:03.505
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, who's going through that designs this game, melee being like, yep, I got time for this, yep, I got time for that.
01:06:03.865 --> 01:06:08.608
[SPEAKER_01]: Only someone who knows how to build a melee character knows exactly what they need is gonna have a chance.
01:06:08.628 --> 01:06:10.630
[SPEAKER_01]: Even with melee, you're having to like, time to be like, not yet.
01:06:11.530 --> 01:06:17.716
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and that's okay, if you're given time to do damage, but then the damage needs to be worthwhile.
01:06:17.756 --> 01:06:19.257
[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be better if you'd be big.
01:06:19.777 --> 01:06:26.703
[SPEAKER_01]: And melee isn't like I know they're considered melee skills, but melee isn't a trick with this volcano skill that travels all the way across the screen.
01:06:26.743 --> 01:06:29.205
[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's not actually melee.
01:06:29.225 --> 01:06:35.991
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean, sure as the melee tag, but like to do close quarter combat in half of these important battles, that's crazy.
01:06:37.292 --> 01:06:59.128
[SPEAKER_01]: right so anyway I'm having a good time and that's but but that's what I'm doing living lightning zombies and then it's swapping between means stability with skeleton warriors or currently reefers but I'm gonna be trying out broots and see if they're actually worth using or not so that's right man tell me what you're built I am the disciple of
01:07:00.773 --> 01:07:14.759
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I do not remember four times, I've ascended four times and I don't remember I don't know if it was a thing when these guys first came out because I know I played the digins before Gins before I remember and you had a really good.
01:07:14.939 --> 01:07:18.921
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was fun with them, but I don't remember our con being a thing
01:07:19.882 --> 01:07:23.723
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember it might not have been a thing all the way to last time.
01:07:23.783 --> 01:07:26.163
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot on the tree for Ark on now.
01:07:26.543 --> 01:07:29.824
[SPEAKER_00]: And it is strong, strong man.
01:07:29.904 --> 01:07:34.245
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, holy balls, undead Ark on gives you like, hold on, I kept it open.
01:07:34.265 --> 01:07:36.505
[SPEAKER_00]: Could you imagine holy balls, holy balls?
01:07:36.545 --> 01:07:37.285
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what this is.
01:07:37.845 --> 01:07:41.206
[SPEAKER_00]: Every time Ark on of undeth, that's the one that I have.
01:07:41.246 --> 01:07:46.587
[SPEAKER_00]: So I have a 15% chance when I use a minion skill to get or a command skill, to get Ark on of undeth.
01:07:47.347 --> 01:07:59.193
[SPEAKER_00]: powerful minion and command skill buff grants 25% more minion damage 200% increase cooldown recovery recovery rate for command skills and 100% more temporary minion limits
01:08:00.716 --> 01:08:05.177
[SPEAKER_00]: That damage 200% more minimum limits.
01:08:05.397 --> 01:08:09.298
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, 200% increased cooldown recovery rate for your command skills.
01:08:09.799 --> 01:08:14.840
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the important one for the jins, but then 100% more temporary minion limits.
01:08:14.900 --> 01:08:17.661
[SPEAKER_00]: 100% more temporary minion limits.
01:08:18.061 --> 01:08:18.401
[SPEAKER_00]: 10 to 20.
01:08:19.101 --> 01:08:31.429
[SPEAKER_00]: But the more minion damage and then the increased CDR on your command skills makes it so that as the gin you're just like, as long as you have the mana, you are spamming your command skills.
01:08:31.449 --> 01:08:35.732
[SPEAKER_00]: You couldn't use them fast enough and the damage is bonkers, man.
01:08:35.752 --> 01:08:37.994
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's so, so, so, so strong.
01:08:39.675 --> 01:08:45.399
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's been, there's some things in here that I don't remember that have made it so much fun also.
01:08:46.635 --> 01:08:50.217
[SPEAKER_00]: Because so I started with the gin and then I went to why I started as a sorceress.
01:08:50.497 --> 01:08:53.979
[SPEAKER_00]: I went to a send and I was like, I don't remember the gin.
01:08:54.619 --> 01:08:55.700
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember what it is.
01:08:55.980 --> 01:08:57.701
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember liking sand and fire.
01:08:58.201 --> 01:08:59.602
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was doing some research about it.
01:09:00.022 --> 01:09:01.983
[SPEAKER_00]: And then as I got playing more, I was like, well,
01:09:02.623 --> 01:09:29.835
[SPEAKER_00]: at this arc on his bonnet like it's gross the damage is so crazy but I'm wondering what people are doing because you have to balance your cooldown it's kind of annoying that I can go into a boss fight if I don't time it properly because you have a 20 second cooldown once you once you lose an arc on buff you get an arc on cooldown recovery essentially and it's 20 seconds base where you cannot gain another arc on okay booster in that time sure so you have to balance out a bit like you're trying to figure out like when to use it.
01:09:31.162 --> 01:09:32.003
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like this.
01:09:32.223 --> 01:09:32.764
[SPEAKER_00]: It's cool.
01:09:32.784 --> 01:09:34.226
[SPEAKER_00]: I know probably people think it's fun.
01:09:34.426 --> 01:09:37.249
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like that there are hidden annoyance in the game.
01:09:37.469 --> 01:09:42.896
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like that there are annoyance that I can put on my amulet that don't exist on the tree unless you know about them.
01:09:43.516 --> 01:09:44.998
[SPEAKER_00]: And there is one had that too.
01:09:45.078 --> 01:09:45.939
[SPEAKER_00]: They did it then.
01:09:46.179 --> 01:09:46.820
[SPEAKER_00]: Never liked it.
01:09:47.381 --> 01:09:50.685
[SPEAKER_00]: Especially when there's one called Dominion.
01:09:51.875 --> 01:09:58.699
[SPEAKER_00]: and Dominion just says that you get a 50% reduced effect of the R-Con effect, right?
01:09:58.719 --> 01:10:03.543
[SPEAKER_00]: So that 20% more in that 200% whatever, but it removes the cooldown recovery.
01:10:04.883 --> 01:10:07.545
[SPEAKER_00]: That is a, I would, are you kidding?
01:10:07.585 --> 01:10:08.486
[SPEAKER_00]: Why would I not take that?
01:10:08.546 --> 01:10:17.432
[SPEAKER_00]: To always be in the R-Con mode, even if I'm taking that 50% reduce effect, the damage is crazy, but that's a hidden,
01:10:18.557 --> 01:10:18.837
[SPEAKER_00]: thing.
01:10:18.978 --> 01:10:21.400
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't have known it had I not gone online to look it up.
01:10:22.061 --> 01:10:33.114
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know why I hate any notable or keystone that has the word Dominion in it, because it keeps showing up when I type in when I control F-minion in my build plan.
01:10:33.955 --> 01:10:36.558
[SPEAKER_00]: Because most of the time when it says Dominion has nothing to do with
01:10:39.863 --> 01:10:51.130
[SPEAKER_00]: So I have, and then, you talk to you and I talked about this, but I didn't really pay attention to how strong sacred rituals is, which is the yes node.
01:10:51.530 --> 01:11:06.520
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's, if you're getting the full thing, the first one gets you like one second less on your recovery, cool down, and I think you also get some increased energy shield, but then sacred rituals, which is the following one, which is 60% of your current energy shield is added to your armor.
01:11:07.040 --> 01:11:26.907
[SPEAKER_00]: For determines your physical damage reduction from our member you having that when I was complaining a few leagues ago But getting like every arrow just right ruins my whole game like it's so much and then you're like well About this I'm like it's crazy because right it was I went CI 2 which has been so much fun I've not played CI and pui 2
01:11:28.828 --> 01:11:32.631
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, when you play in rituals I see I.
01:11:32.691 --> 01:11:35.633
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I really want purple blowing up things I don't have to move.
01:11:35.894 --> 01:11:36.614
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll just stand there.
01:11:36.754 --> 01:11:37.175
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care.
01:11:37.755 --> 01:11:41.338
[SPEAKER_00]: But how do you know you have to move for grain or do you have to move for purple?
01:11:41.418 --> 01:11:42.679
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't move for anything anymore.
01:11:43.020 --> 01:11:46.783
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you take damage on some of them, which one's which what's the difference?
01:11:47.123 --> 01:11:49.345
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why sacred rituals though is crazy
01:11:49.625 --> 01:11:53.546
[SPEAKER_00]: because it's not actually giving you an armor value.
01:11:53.646 --> 01:11:55.407
[SPEAKER_00]: So it can't ever be reduced.
01:11:55.727 --> 01:11:57.548
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't be armor broken.
01:11:57.668 --> 01:11:58.708
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't have my armor.
01:11:58.768 --> 01:12:01.009
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not giving me a flat number of armor.
01:12:01.109 --> 01:12:04.470
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just giving you straight up percentage reduction against physical damage.
01:12:05.210 --> 01:12:06.531
[SPEAKER_00]: That's so, so strong.
01:12:06.551 --> 01:12:12.013
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm sitting at like 62 or 63% physical damage reduction just from that.
01:12:13.753 --> 01:12:15.794
[SPEAKER_01]: That's one thing I've been thinking about with my build.
01:12:15.814 --> 01:12:23.218
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like I'm starting all the way over here I want to I love all these different defenses, but then my mind I'm like I could have just started this sorceress I think you would like this one.
01:12:23.258 --> 01:12:27.561
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you've ever tried the gin right no because I don't think there were any you don't like active skills
01:12:28.748 --> 01:12:31.610
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're not that bad, though, but I do understand that.
01:12:32.130 --> 01:12:40.274
[SPEAKER_00]: But Paul, man, the damage that you get combined with that R-Con buff has been very smooth.
01:12:40.294 --> 01:12:44.437
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I ramped up to T-15s very, very quickly, and I'm doing all the content.
01:12:45.750 --> 01:12:51.051
[SPEAKER_00]: haven't had any problems with any bosses or dying to anything and I see I so nice holy crap.
01:12:52.012 --> 01:12:53.512
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, how much yes do you have?
01:12:54.792 --> 01:12:56.993
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I switch to see I early.
01:12:57.013 --> 01:12:58.953
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I only had like 4,000 when I switch.
01:12:58.973 --> 01:13:01.034
[SPEAKER_00]: Just because I want to do it, but I think I'm 9,100 now.
01:13:02.114 --> 01:13:05.415
[SPEAKER_00]: And are you finding the gears relatively easy to come by?
01:13:06.115 --> 01:13:08.556
[SPEAKER_00]: I crafted my chest, which was awesome.
01:13:09.057 --> 01:13:11.958
[SPEAKER_00]: The, I think a couple items I've probably traded for.
01:13:12.018 --> 01:13:13.499
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't trade for anything into a hit 90.
01:13:13.519 --> 01:13:16.040
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I'm gonna wait till I get to 90 and then I'll figure it from there.
01:13:16.481 --> 01:13:18.141
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so funny though in Path of Excel.
01:13:18.201 --> 01:13:23.664
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that it's a numbers game and sometimes that's just not my thing, but I'm trying to like ramp up my E.S.
01:13:24.585 --> 01:13:31.869
[SPEAKER_00]: And it just always cracks me up when I put a chess piece on that I'm like, okay, this isn't too bad, but somehow I went from like,
01:13:32.782 --> 01:13:37.063
[SPEAKER_00]: 4,000 to 9,000 ES, but the ES difference was only 200.
01:13:37.124 --> 01:13:41.105
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not in being sarcastic, but like the actual flat amount on your chest.
01:13:41.385 --> 01:13:44.106
[SPEAKER_00]: How much that ramps up with percentage is crazy?
01:13:45.046 --> 01:13:46.247
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it just doesn't make sense.
01:13:46.307 --> 01:13:55.290
[SPEAKER_00]: I went from a 400 ES to a 600 ES chest and I didn't only go up 200 ES, like the amount that I actually went up in energy shield is crazy.
01:13:56.627 --> 01:13:57.607
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it hasn't been too bad.
01:13:57.647 --> 01:14:04.810
[SPEAKER_00]: I've crafted all my stuff, but I started to learn how to use a biz crafting specifically for pushing higher ES bases.
01:14:05.750 --> 01:14:07.811
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, so now I want to go even higher.
01:14:07.831 --> 01:14:14.033
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I can get that even higher, but I don't need to like, it's been, I haven't had any problem yet.
01:14:14.093 --> 01:14:15.754
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's fun.
01:14:16.454 --> 01:14:19.815
[SPEAKER_01]: Crazy strong class though that are you attempting like I've been
01:14:25.905 --> 01:14:28.247
[SPEAKER_01]: The more I've played it, I've been like, man, tie with like this.
01:14:28.287 --> 01:14:32.852
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, you've heard like, we've been playing path for a decade and you or more.
01:14:33.052 --> 01:14:35.594
[SPEAKER_01]: And how many times have I talked about going C.I.
01:14:35.614 --> 01:14:36.155
[SPEAKER_01]: at level 16?
01:14:36.175 --> 01:14:36.415
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:14:36.455 --> 01:14:36.976
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:14:37.176 --> 01:14:42.481
[SPEAKER_01]: And like how many times have I wanted to integrate C.I with minions and have it in a way that I like it.
01:14:42.721 --> 01:14:43.001
[SPEAKER_01]: And you,
01:14:44.473 --> 01:14:53.335
[SPEAKER_01]: Despite the fact that I'm insistent, quote of quote on really pushing through this and seeing how it works and game, there is you are hitting on all the things.
01:14:53.835 --> 01:14:55.876
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm using all the characters.
01:14:56.376 --> 01:14:58.376
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm using all ES bases.
01:14:59.236 --> 01:15:03.837
[SPEAKER_00]: I have got so many, so much spirit and so many little buddies running around with me.
01:15:03.937 --> 01:15:04.918
[SPEAKER_00]: Fuck you and fuck you.
01:15:04.998 --> 01:15:10.819
[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing is, because they all, I mean, I'm using them to muster up for my main damage.
01:15:11.857 --> 01:15:19.459
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so I don't know how that would be for you because it's because I'm definitely getting a lot of my damage out of those active, but it's not like they're that big of a deal.
01:15:19.479 --> 01:15:20.319
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just my right trigger.
01:15:21.080 --> 01:15:22.180
[SPEAKER_01]: I, well, that's the thing.
01:15:22.520 --> 01:15:25.141
[SPEAKER_01]: I, with my build, I'm holding, I got around to you.
01:15:25.521 --> 01:15:26.621
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm holding right trigger.
01:15:26.901 --> 01:15:31.722
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my either going to be what eventually I want to be ball lightning, but for now it's just the calling, uh,
01:15:41.805 --> 01:15:43.086
[SPEAKER_01]: Every now and then I hit X.
01:15:43.426 --> 01:15:47.548
[SPEAKER_01]: Typically that would be contagion or that would be my curse or in this case.
01:15:47.568 --> 01:16:00.936
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my zombies So I'm fine holding down Unactive skill as long as I'm ducking and dodging and doing whatever, but I I think I have to go but I don't want to ask No, but how do you find the recovery like you're getting damaged?
01:16:01.136 --> 01:16:06.719
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't like you can change the speed that your energy shield recharge is but you can't change
01:16:07.279 --> 01:16:10.220
[SPEAKER_01]: the delay from damage to recharge, right?
01:16:10.240 --> 01:16:20.341
[SPEAKER_01]: Like in path one, there's that third dimension where you can change the second difference between okay, I've taken damage and there's the typical and it's shield recharge start time.
01:16:21.502 --> 01:16:22.722
[SPEAKER_01]: In path one, there isn't that.
01:16:22.862 --> 01:16:23.802
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you find it?
01:16:23.822 --> 01:16:27.803
[SPEAKER_00]: But you get it, and you do get it, right, in the first, the third ascension essentially, right?
01:16:27.823 --> 01:16:28.643
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you get minus one.
01:16:29.323 --> 01:16:30.843
[SPEAKER_00]: So now you're down to three seconds.
01:16:31.003 --> 01:16:33.844
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm, but you can change it beyond that.
01:16:34.284 --> 01:16:38.572
[SPEAKER_00]: No, and I'm actually taking a note that increases the timer because it's the 50% increase.
01:16:38.592 --> 01:16:42.378
[SPEAKER_00]: It's up at the top or it's like 50% increased energy shield, but you get a 20%
01:16:44.362 --> 01:16:50.706
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and I'm familiar with the cluster, how do you find that delay?
01:16:50.746 --> 01:16:57.189
[SPEAKER_01]: Because for me, Path 1 and CI was highly dependent on making sure that I was like, it was guaranteed, it was a must for me.
01:16:57.609 --> 01:16:58.990
[SPEAKER_01]: I had to have it at two seconds.
01:16:59.290 --> 01:17:02.632
[SPEAKER_01]: Which wasn't difficult to get in Path 1, but I had to have it at two seconds.
01:17:02.672 --> 01:17:03.572
[SPEAKER_01]: Have you through my humble lessons?
01:17:04.953 --> 01:17:07.355
[SPEAKER_00]: and that is the combo lessons is your heel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you put it on where you get two of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you put the supports on that lay you have two shots and you hit it and it instantly starts your energy shield recharge and it gives you a period of time for like 3.8 seconds where it won't stop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and so it's just you find that convalescence is you can use it as a flask as Typically whenever you want like as long as you're not getting damaged damage damage damage damage because you're I don't know how it would have been had I not been all the way to the fourth ascension to get that 60% counting towards my armor But that's where the that's where it doesn't even really matter because I have so much defense But it just isn't matter as much
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish character progression was because I really want my character.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really want to see what my character is like in endgame, but I really want to do something very similar to what you're doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At least just the base.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just love it in minions or yes incurses or both.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it hasn't been hard to push the S up high like really has not been hard to push the the energy shield high So anyway, let's wrap it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can talk more about it after dark, but We gotta go, but I love you forever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a coffee this morning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, buddy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fun 361.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just naked tags And I'm Tyler record days patrons will catch you and after dark everybody else will see next we can 362 We got a website forever excel.com.
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[SPEAKER_01]: welcome to forever tell them just naked tags record of this little bit of a little bit of a great day yeah we would normally be finished by now and um we're just getting started it is so if forgive any um i don't know whatever i don't even know what the word would be about forgive any like
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a long time if we could get one on story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, but you know, this kind of stuff, like you don't know what we've been through the last hour.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All good things, all good things happy to be here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Episode... Oh shoot, uh... Three, six, one, six, one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dang.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a transition by to subtract by, I don't know, 30, 20 or 30, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot of episodes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot of lettuce.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's just a lot of episodes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a lot of episodes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So here we are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're doing it again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And big showtorch to our patrons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks everybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who resubbed up this past week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Patron gets the access to afterdark.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's our podcast after the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and we appreciate your support.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I gotta ask you how your week is, but first, for all those new listeners who might be hearing this for the first time, yeah, we talked to each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have a conversation about, we like to chat things, hold on, I also want to say that's why this is episode 361.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, otherwise we would have been pretty finished.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing, so like you might be tuning in to like only here about POE stuff and how the new POE week was or all that kind of stuff and I mean that's all cool and that's I mean obviously we're Path of Exile podcast, but don't worry we'll teach you but just give us a minute You're not gonna learn anything here, but uh, this is uh, it's more important here is perfect
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The reason we can, because we, because everybody is super interested in our real life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have these stars.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So how was a week?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've had a great week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kids started school this week and my son's a bit of a drama king, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: like understandably like he goes through stuff but he deals with things I the um my wife does too and so you know there's it's tough for him doing things and so he was nervous but excited and he'd go through like things with like yeah crazy excited look ah I can't handle this
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[SPEAKER_01]: and go in crazy and like so when he goes through his anxious moments, he's like almost like my daughter who's you know with the autism she just needs things clearly laid out her teacher this first week of school right so the teachers send these generic questionnaires to the parents sometimes and so this teacher's like you know what are her strengths, what are weaknesses, what would you like her to improve on that kind of stuff anything I should know about the kid
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[SPEAKER_01]: things you assume she does not assume if it's not part of the step-by-step process it's not gonna happen so like if you tell her to do this and this and this but one of those steps is like it doesn't say remember to breathe she's gonna be holding her breath all the time like exaggeration but that's that's how it is and anyway this school knows that of course
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what he's like as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you have to be like crazy, insanely clear, step-by-step, you know, breeze and take another step, our separate steps in the step-by-step process kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's been good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been, it's been an awesome week seeing them there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're both in middle school for the first time and it'll be the only year until two years into high school with violence two years in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of cool to walk in a school together, and my buddy, or sorry, not my buddy, my son's buddy, he used to always come to our house, to walk to elementary school with my son.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But now his house is closer to the middle school, so now Oliver's going the other direction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's kind of fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's all that new stuff for the kids, and they feel all grown up, but they feel all nervous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a friend that my daughter's intentionally trying to avoid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's not a good friend, and she's had a lot of problems with her over the last couple of years, but that friend's really attached to Violet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And one day they'll make a podcast together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Christina has been very encouraging to me to be that kind to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's very nice of her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a really good day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't twist it well enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, it's just one of those things where it's like, that friend needs more support than they're getting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they just don't understand the situations are right there, but they keep putting other kids that don't know better into really awkward or dangerous situations.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so my daughter's been trying to distance herself from that person, but really attached.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this was the new year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She wasn't sure how to deal with it and all that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like for me like it's all just like I love this part of parenting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's like I'm not like oh no where are they gonna come back with?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like you know sitting back I can't wait for them to come home and then we talk about the day and I don't know I just I love this part of parenting and seeing what they go through and You know kind of giving them like oh that sucks kind of attitude but also trying to be there for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's I don't know I really like it like I really enjoy this time of year so
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[SPEAKER_01]: and it's not like, you know, like those pushing 40 comics where it was like, you know, the mom's pushing the kid, she can't wait for the first day of school pushes the kids out the door and like yells after them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember the first one home has to walk the dog and do the dishes and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, not, you know, I love that, I love that, got his stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's not like that, like I just really enjoy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: watching them go through stuff and kind of hopefully helping them along.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's pretty neat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty neat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so anyway, it's just been that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just been that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And my wife roughly around the same time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She took her vacation time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So she's come back to work on a regular schedule around the same time that kids are going back to school and so we're all good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're all good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: it's really just based on the calendar like it's it's it's very it's been very stereotypical like I remember way back in the day when I lived in Ontario it was like spring was spring summer was summer fall was fall like you don't get rain in the summer and you only get it in the fall and it's very much like that the last few years where we've had like spring is spring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: tons of rain tons of sun summer don't even talk about rain you're not going to get it good luck and then fall comes and it's like boom as soon as September hits you have this like all right back down to the low 20s high teens and you're going to get that rain and so it's been been a it's been good for us three now how about you how's your week
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Life's good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Works busy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Life's busy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We, our kids are back to school too, where our second oldest graduates this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, how do we fund?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's in grade 12, sort of grade 12.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Seconds, graduating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he's in grade 12.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to ask you about him this morning, but we, the drive wasn't long enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so he's he's graduating this year, so that's cool, and then he's I'm I don't he bought he's it's really been fun because he got himself car like this past week, but I don't know if I'm allowed to say that so
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[SPEAKER_00]: But this regard, now I got to ask why you wouldn't be allowed to say that he's excited to share it with people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think he's told everybody that could be listening that's family related to it because he was just really excited to tell people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think I've passed that point of being allowed to say it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's really just been any listeners.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not allowed to bring it up to anybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't tell him if you heard that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but no, it's been fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been really fun watching him all five of our listeners or family members.
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[SPEAKER_00]: get it get his car all clean like he bought it was it was through the family which was really awesome just the way that it all worked out but cool but his own money yep yep his own money he saved he paid for his insurance all up front there's like a weird way for you to do insurance the way that the L and N and stuff works out here and so you can pay for
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[SPEAKER_00]: As an L, so a learner, they get cheaper insurance, and so if you wait till right before they're about to go for their end, then you can buy a year worth of insurance at that cheap price, and then he'll get that reduced price at least for the first roughly part of his end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're getting towards the point where an october he can do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It never crossed my mind that someone with the learners license could own a vehicle, but obviously they could.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess that never even crossed my mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got all cleaned up, fixed up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was laughing because my brother used to have a...
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[SPEAKER_00]: has like a plimmeth laser, I think is what it was, but he used to have a, um, it's the last time he even saw a plimmeth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but I think it was a plimmeth laser.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For some reason that's what's sticking out to me, but he, he, I mean, back when we were that age, we would go to like the Walmart or the Lord coer, the princess autos, or all these different places where you could go and get like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: car parts, you know, and maybe old stuff, and then you'd have like a stupid like skulls shift knob or like, you know, you're a gas pedal, and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a big, all his stuff was stupid and from Walmart, and I remember he had a, you know, you can get like tucking your brother right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Across his windshield, he had like a banner across
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it flew off from the highway one to the right all the way anyway, so It's been fun watching them do a stuff with this car though, but otherwise no life is good things are good We were you We watch friends at your friends and neighbors my friends and neighbors with the John Hamm Oh, I couldn't get past the first episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you thought so we forced ourselves past the first episode because we had been I had been told it was good So it did take us a little bit to get into it
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, it was, it was good, uh, Christina struggled with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, she, she doesn't like when there's like, and she's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's like, it's really uncomfortable where you just feel for the person and your nervous watching the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She, the best analogy she gave was that it, and I can remember this feeling when you watch meet the fuckers where you just like, come on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it just, it's a home-fable feeling that's how she felt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it wasn't like, she has problems with kids stuff in shows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It had nothing to do with his relationship with his kids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not, not, not since it's just you feel like a certain point because you know something, but in the story there,
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't know, and so then it's tough because you're essentially knowing more than what some of the other characters know, I wouldn't want to spoil anything so Anyway, it was good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We finished the first season of that, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, man, works good, really busy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Plates and POE this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am looking at some other games though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are some good games coming out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's like, it didn't see my name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Domain, now I'm just released into 1.0 and shrouded.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Coming out with theirs pretty soon, we got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, there's some good games out that I want to try out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a question for you about your video camera first, but before we get into that, you remember when GGG, they were like, sister, maddick, almost two of faults, almost not, but they would come out once every three months or else, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then,
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[SPEAKER_01]: What was that project red cyberpunk cyberpunk was coming out biggest release of the whoever's and Lloyd did it go well and GGG for the first time in their life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, paused and changed their schedule to accommodate that release.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably 50% because the people in charge of GGG schedule wanted to play it, but also because it obviously interferes with their numbers and interactions as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: this old for the first time ever they go outside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, that that backfired on GGG because cyberpunk at the was the worst launch on the planet and there's been some really bad launches out there and that one was the worst.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think now like path of exile?
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[SPEAKER_01]: to is the game the air PG community is looking out for planning around other people that are into air PGs are really either concerned or focused on the progress of path 2 and of course it's been very good but also
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very not good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The progress so far based on what the company has said versus what's come out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The company has said nothing, then the progress has been great, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what do you think?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been like for other companies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Seeing Path of Excel to state, like especially like the 0.5.5.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you, you were talking more Valheim, right, coming out with 1.0, they're like, sweet, so 4.5, 4.5 has nothing, let's launch, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They could have lots like, you know, postpone like 3 months, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think most, I don't know if most games pay attention to other games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do, it does make me laugh a little bit though that with Path of Exile, we had that whole thing around Cyberpunk, and this time it's like, they rushed to make sure they were coming out at the same time as Grand Death
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, ah, let's keep up with that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny, because there's a few games, most games you don't have to care about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They scratch different inches, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're in the mood for this, you're in the mood for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's some games that just all enveloping.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, in my house, we don't, like, the, when my wife got to the part of, what's, what's the last one, what, which GTA's coming out, six or five?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so five was the one with a teeth pulling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right shoot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that sounds right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That sounds like a trick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when once my wife got to that part of the story, she just couldn't play it anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like obviously, that's not a game where we're going to let our kids play, but there's certain games that
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[SPEAKER_01]: The world just is like, I'm going to try it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to play it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting it no matter what because blah, blah, blah, blah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's going to scratch something in GTA 6.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the rocks are always, does something phenomenal with their launches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They can afford to have a game once every six years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely a billion dollar game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like the price like they can
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[SPEAKER_01]: increase their price of their version of the game by 30 or 40 percent and nobody's going to blank a night they're still going to get the same sales obviously all assumptions but i'm talking in the assumptions here those are the ones the cyberpunks the GTA six is that you really got to be careful
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yet, at the same time, load launching two, three weeks before Christmas, and GGG led.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the most lucrative time of the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they have to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't think you're being stupid from GGG's perspective by no matter what's launching, even if unfortunately, one of those massive launches, like, cyberpunk or red dead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like cyberpunk just happened to be on the same day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I feel like there was something about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't just the same area.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they only postponed it by like oh, maybe it was a move.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, so it's like I don't think GGG Like two three most core Christmas has always been a staple for GGG and that Just all has always made sense to them because of how much money they make in that time frame concern to any other quarter So it sucks, but I'm what's the other option?
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[SPEAKER_01]: another year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, they have to do what they think is best for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I want another year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want another year of the beta, but we find, we find they'll figure it out as they go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, they will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been playing lots while I actually not lots, but I have played this week, but first, Justin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How'd you get your camera to work?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like today, chrome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was stuck in an update.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's literally all it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had no idea why.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In the in the system, I could see me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was seeing me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could hear me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything was working fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But for some reason, whatever the media connection was, all I did was update a chrome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really, and so but that prevented you from seeing me as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and vice versa.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Apparently it has to do with whatever the media thing was that we were testing it that is how I don't care I did was stupid, but I'm dead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good talk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh What I was reading theta's message What are you talking about and I was like I'm gonna do something about it
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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you talking about?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I think it's too late.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If the episode already starts, what is that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What did you put there?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is the Hardy Boys Detective Handbook.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just a nice, every troop crime solver needs it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice, lovely Tyler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lovely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In consultation with Special Agent WF Flynn, Federal Bureau of Investigation Retired, revised edition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am two thirds of the way done, book six, for, uh, dungeon crawler Carl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm enjoying six, five is still definitely one of my favorites after one, uh, but six has been very good so far.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been an enjoyable read, very big book, but it's, uh, it's I want to ask, I like, I want to know what's going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't want to go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't want to go along for the tedious.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I actually elf camera one day you'll have to ask me like tell me I love people reading.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, how many books are there do you remember?
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[SPEAKER_01]: 74.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think overtake So I remember it a video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, it's cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome having a series Like when I first got into the Shinaria series even though it wasn't like my favorite authorship I was like okay, let's read book two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's read book three and then all of sudden I'm like all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's let's see how what I'm getting into here and I was like
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome getting into a series that's huge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's been special when you don't realize it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's exciting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, let's suck Path of Exile.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did look at the things and there were a couple that I kept open, but otherwise, you crackle in in my crackle in, uh, no, okay, you're crackling to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So right now, even while I'm speaking, now, no, but before, as soon as you start talking path back, we're just when I like to know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I, I tried to kill one of the tabs, the other tabs, so I just won't click any tabs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So,
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[SPEAKER_00]: lead the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: September 18th, 2020.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mac, Path Vexal was released.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Six years now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mac has been a part of the family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's nice for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, black sheep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Get out of here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, probably can't use that anymore, eh?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure you can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm making it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still getting crackly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll get crackly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got ya.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't looked back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, it wasn't anything in path to land.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they had some races.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The racing path.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The races.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The...
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but if you click on every single one, I actually kind of want to comment on this, but I don't have numbers for it, but every single hot fix with the exception of a few bug fixes, it's all crash stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, there were a few that I, I'm, I'm going to try and drag this to my other monitor to see if it will let me do this without being crackly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, uh, is hopefully it's staying not crackly right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so they, yeah, they came up with a bunch of them that it was the 0.5.5.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think don't anything to add a number for, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't it just hotfix after hotfix?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they eventually got to be?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so they had, they're only two that I made a note of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One was,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know this was the thing, but I was like, what happened?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, you know that I pay for that carry, the fourth ascendancy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hate the fourth ascendancy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like a sending very much all in Path of Exile, but the fourth ascendancy to me is just too long to go and do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do they typically use, which one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I've always done it in the second one because you load in right before they go fight the final boss and you're just sitting in the room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You wait there, they kill it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You you portal in and whatever, but anytime I've done it, I just go into a the trade eight 20.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think is what it's called and I don't know the best way to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's just the way that I do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just wait and read comments and people will be saying, like, selling fourth ascension, whatever, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so people were doing that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, okay, sweet, okay, it was cheap too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I don't even know it was maybe 30 or 40 results.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very cheap, because typically it's like one or two defines.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I get an invite from this person and they say, pay after I'm like, okay, fine, without it, that's normal as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I click on their thing and they say go, and all of a sudden, the trial of a trial
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, go through and go up the elevator or go through the side, do what they tell me to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I go click.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You go into this room and there's like 40 portals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's, I've never seen that before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were so many portals on top of portals, and it was the end of the trial of chaos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I was right into the end spot with trial of chaos, where you can just click the thing and get your fourth essentially.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, that's so weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I click the thing, get my fourth essentially, trade the person, their 40 results.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Turns out that that was a bug that people were able to beat the trial of chaos, and then just
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[SPEAKER_00]: constantly invite as many people as they want it into it and it just oh you could just get yeah so sounds like one of those people one of those things that gg would ban people over knowing that it's exploiting something well i was a little bit curious too because that you couldn't not know you were exploiting now i didn't know
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[SPEAKER_00]: At the time, I didn't know it was going on, but afterwards when I read this, I was like, that makes sense because I'd never seen it before where there were, like, you couldn't have had that many portals in a normal group.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, I didn't see anything in the hot fix about them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They just said that they fixed a bug that allowed players to join and already completed trial at chaos and claim ascendancy points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, only players in the instance of the time, the boss dies can claim points, which is how it worked in trial a second.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not sure if this was a result of their trial of chaos updates that they did, but good they put you in the sentence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would have paid for it no matter what.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the only other one that I saw was the one that just came out with it was a September 7.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They fixed a bug where
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, sorry, that was in the one that just came out today, 0.5 point B, or whatever, yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I never mind, the other half, I didn't really care about, but the B patch expedition wasn't even loading an endgame.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in again, and game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even realize that I had not seen a single expedition through all the tiers of maps, and I'm like, wow, like zero expedition bugs, this is a work of real, we do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a weird thing to miss because I don't know what would have changed, but yes, so now Expedition can spawn in endgame but
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, other than that, nothing really stood out to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lots of crashes and fixes and stuff that I read.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't experience any crashes myself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's just find it just goes to show how complicated the game is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because from the user perspective, this is the least change, least interesting patch that League that GGG's ever done path one end to with the exception of maybe way back when the game originally launched.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so for there to be like there was a lot of fixes, a lot of crashes of different varieties that needed to be fixed and just goes to show even like sure they made some end game changes right but then like the campaign stuff was really just ritual like the game itself didn't have a lot of added content it was just more integrated content and to have that many crashes regarding everything it's just just shows like sucks for them, but it was just surprising for me as somebody who doesn't know anything about that stuff to see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing being added to the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing with quotes, of course, and then seeing so many crashes being fixed over and over and over, it just goes to show how complicated and integrated the game is, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I hope, I think another criticism I was just surprised to see that considering, you know, quantity versus what they were fapping to fix.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I feel for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Microsoft is a bit definitely that they need to figure their shit out with regards to
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[SPEAKER_00]: crazy sometimes with the load times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just I don't have a machine that should be having me sitting there for a load time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if that's because of your mtx, then give me the option to turn it off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's not fair that I've other people's mtx.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like let me have the option to turn this off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that it's a selling feature for them, but then limit it to whatever's happening in King's March and in the act one spot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is so noticeable when you go into those zones versus back to your hideout or whatever Just be something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope they figure something out because I just find it super frustrating I play on the series s x box series s not the x we have the x down stairs the better ones We have I don't have some stairs the s is the worst one and that's the one I play on we have that one upstairs It's to encourage the kids to go downstairs and play a record and
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is why I put, but I play most of my gameplay on the S, the worst one, and it's just funny, sometimes how the difference between, like if I, essence strain contagion, I did a tiny bit of that this week, if I essence strain contagion, a massive group is that performs better than some moving around and just a town.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, yeah, in one of the apps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope they figure that out because it gets I just find that annoying, but I did play a lot this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So lots of people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, because we've recorded last week, but then I don't remember was that the start of the league last week or was it a whole week before that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think last week was the beginning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's only been going for a week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we started right after.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't get this week one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we just started our characters when we recorded last time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, we didn't have them even created in, I remember we had it in the main episode, last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and it was between the main episode and afterdark that we got chance to play because we recorded before the league started.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I did play a lot because I'm almost 92 now and I didn't know I mean it's stupid it's just a dummy on my part but they weren't kidding when they said that it was an event ritual event because it is holy crap as a rituals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was really cool through
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really funny when you come across a ritual and there's no boss there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, fuck, it's boring, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on
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[SPEAKER_01]: Better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it's like to have such sexy friends just and but man you're looking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What were you talking about?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, rituals!
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[SPEAKER_01]: So...
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm skipping rituals, but I'm loving rituals in campaign.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, or you don't campaign.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, not done campaign.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm only an X3.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're awesome in campaign.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were so fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're, they're fun to, like, add to a certain point, but then they just get tedious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I thought they were like, they were, they were well spaced apart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You couldn't miss them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just love the boss a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That part's
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to fight the boss again, I want to keep moving on, like to me it's just it's it's a time thing I really just want to move on, I would love it, but for me I got to the point of tediousness not saying the rewards aren't good, I'd even sang a poorly spaced out, not saying anything, there's just some
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, my damage isn't great, but I also don't think it's bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's at a decent point of balance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I'm trying, I'm kind of like stretching a build idea to see if it works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm actually quite pleased with how it's worked out so far.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, it, the original boss fights still just taking too long for me to, being like, okay, yeah, let's do this again for this with other bosses as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not necessarily a criticism for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It could be because I'm not doing enough damage, but the game also doesn't do a great job of letting you know that, hey, you're an idiot for using this skill that we're providing you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You should be using this skill instead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's still very path of X, all one in that regard, but which skills are good or not?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know which skills are good or not for the things that I'd like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but the boss encounters are just like, okay, I did the mighty silver fist and I don't want to do it a second time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, the only benefit you're getting out of it is extra loop and the challenge league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And no joke.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All I'm looking for is resist throughout the whole campaign.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all I'm looking for like my other characters and standards that are in in game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still at 50% resist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's not drop, and I'm not crafting it the way that I should, whatever it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm still at 50% resist, I'm not cats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, through the campaign, all I care about are resist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the rituals, unless it has resists, the only thing I'm picking up are those transmutes and Augs, or certain exalts that it keeps throwing at me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is fun, just even getting that fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what helps me with my resists are my assences.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not my transmutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not my Augs and it's not my exalts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just saving my results for the higher tier items and then they must have changed something to do with what do they call them now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they augments?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they socketables?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the official term?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd have to check the filter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I forget which one they change it to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I swear gear is dropping way more with sockets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did notice that, but I think I noticed that at the start of 0.55, so like not this one, but the last one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what I'm short on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what I've been saving.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's add this in because I know this boss, you know, Gregory's going to have cold.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows what, what does Jean or do?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's yellow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm actually have a post coming up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to do physical and funny because, well, you have, like, I'm actually going to make a post about, um, the like they're ever going to see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they will hopefully they do, but maybe they won't, um, a boat like how damage,
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[SPEAKER_01]: is communicated to the user.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So fire for the most part is relatively standard, but cold is blue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But lightning is also blue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, lightning is blue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In the loading screen, lightning has a yellow text, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the help thing and the loading screens that you never want to see, that's yellow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But in the game, oh, actually, that's true, Lightning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every single
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, so it's a whole dammit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Jamir causes lightning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what happens when you have yellow?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing in the game says that lightning is yellow and then all of a sudden like all the things that the user has are blue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so now this is yellow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I probably lightning, but that's a guess and that's not that's not really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then all of a sudden you get these orange pusses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: right when you're underground and didn't act one and all that kind of stuff like what that what is orange what am I supposed to improve to mitigate orange move and you have like but sure sometimes there's red right remember like Gregory he's got the red beams okay well nothing in the game is red but GGG's used to red being physical but there's nothing in the game that tells the user that that red is physical and there's nothing in the game besides
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then all of a sudden, it's like, okay, well, I see like red spark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some bosses have like red, but it looks like sparks, like what am I supposed to do with that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What, what, what, what's red?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there's a lot of inconsistencies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're CI, what's the difference between green projectiles and purple projectiles?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're immune to chaos damage, but one of them hurts you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, like there's a lot of inconsistency that's coming towards the user in terms of this is the color that's going to hurt you, what can you use to mitigate that and there's just a crazy amount of inconsistency and I do not remember what you said that brought that up, but it's relevant and you're welcome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've never, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to derail you, you were talking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember what we were talking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, a Jamir Quay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you brought up the Jamir Quay and not knowing what the damage is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then like, you know, like, you know, it's like, I like the augments and the sockets and I'm like, okay, I know, kind of like in like path one, you're like, okay, sweet, like there's going to be a lot of cold damage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, water damage, honestly in path one, even like path one's horrible for communicating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The person will assume water damage is cold damage, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you're act one, you know, it's cold damage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you want your familiar with it, you know to stack up your cold resist, and then, you know, you know for act three with, um, what's the space?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dominus by the like to go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dominus, yeah, you know, you know to stack up your lightning and all that kind of stuff and please So yeah, so yeah, I mean you get used to that in path to and so it's that's what I like about the sockets Okay, I know what boss I'm coming up to or endgame or end of act boss I'm coming up to accept nobody knows what kind of damage
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jumera Quay does, I feel like it's bad, but I don't want it either, but you don't want a guess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't give you the resources to guess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They give you the resources barely to know, barely enough to really focus on it, and then just get 75 of all of them tie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Easy peasy, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but I love the socket system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, once you're familiar with the game and once the game communicates more efficiently to the user, the socket system is really cool and lets you actually adapt to that situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: right even have some things on the sides like okay sweet like this is good for generic resist but i'm coming up to this boss and this one okay so i put my socket into this one my augment is good and i don't like that so anyway the crafting gets i do enjoy it want to get later into it too like getting into the abyss stuff that you can do for crafty and it's fun i quite a bit of fun actually like
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot to it, but it's fun for crafting gear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So do you do that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do you go out of your way?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because for me, it's so inconvenient to go to these locations and do these things that I do, but I have to do that in any of this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll do like crafting, because it is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't like it because I don't actually, so here's a question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't actually know the answer to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When you are playing through the campaign, you unlock the lightless passage, which takes you to talk to the little weird snakeyhead do that runs under the ground for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how it can be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew that was, I know that's what that quest is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I haven't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but it's in like act fight through three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You go to find it, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like an act three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's two or three, yeah, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so you go and find it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: then you have to do it again like it's like oh go to this the well of souls in this spot and it's like you have to travel to it through the Atlas to get to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to bring up this whole part in a second because it relates to something else but if it travel to it what I've never been able to figure out is is there a difference who has to which one I go to if I'm ever doing the unveiling because
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[SPEAKER_00]: Part of my brain goes like, are they penalizing me for using the easy one, which is just go to my way point, click the one on the far right and go to it versus like, do you have a chance at better roles, better roles, yeah, yeah, because the endgame one sucks man because if I'm worked up and I'm up in some other part of the Atlas and then I need to go back to it, just to get to it again and then travel and then have to open up portals to it travel to seems very odd, but I do what I hope not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do go to my way because the, yeah, your ability to craft something like you're a super fun, super easy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, there's a benefit to farming to bits and then using that currency on items, and then playing with it, like just seeing what you get.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've done it a lot with the, um, was the rattling sector that has the, the skeleton skeletons, just to use the one that gives you six mods on it and you just
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[SPEAKER_00]: See what you get?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You get to pick for each one, three choices.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm so curious if I'm going to like path to like I love path to his gameplay so much more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The intention they have, the attention they put into all the details of the game that it seemed from the user's perspective.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were apathetic to path one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it just naturally path 2 is going to be a better game for me, but how they deal with end game stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really curious, once the game's all settled and figured out, and this is the way we want path 2 compared to path 1, I'm really curious which one I'm going to like more, because I always assume it was going to be path 2 just because of the gameplay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm curious if the layout of path 1 is going to be more encouraging or attractive, then the gameplay of path 2, because in path 1,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can cancel out almost all aspects of gameplay that I don't like from the outless past century.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can say I don't want this crap to show up and I'm one of those users where I actually dislike almost every league that they have as core.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do not like so much of it and I'm blocking almost all of them and I wish I could block some of the what they call the masters as well like I don't like Alva right and I don't
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[SPEAKER_01]: and I have that freedom in path 1, but in path 2, they have the aspect of this section's dedicated to this league, this section's dedicated to this league, and what if you don't like those things?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, you could ignore that, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: What about just blocking it out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What about making the gameplay like you have in path one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just customizing it to the experience that I'd like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's close to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the things that are part of the main atlas, so you've got like essences and shrines and strong boxes and rogue excels.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Summoning circles and...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whisps, those are things that are built into it that you can't get rid of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All of the other ones that are on the outside, they are going to be more, did you get a chance to get them, but you're actually more going to be fortunate with tablets, like you're using the tablets to force if you want to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so if you want whatever else, that doesn't mean you can't run into it, because they can run it, they can be as modifiers on the Alice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there is definitely some work that they still need into their progression of endgame.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Shoot was it like just like 5.5 yeah, it's it's it's new and that's what they're running into 1.0 with which is fine because I know there's no way that this version of end game is the finished product.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just cannot be like sure How many times have they they changed path ones and game just because of game of eternal progression, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, and like this is the only this is the first reason we've had since this change in the Alice and for anyone who has progressed
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[SPEAKER_00]: the Atlas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's TDS, like, even currently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they could make it so much better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of my biggest frustrations with it is that
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[SPEAKER_00]: You start in the middle and you have to go up towards the top left to the fortress, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're working towards the fortress.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fortress is what is going to give you Alice points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The main Alice points to this huge 350 plus Alice pass of tree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the right that you can get that you can come, I forgot you can completely fill it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You will eventually just fill out all the spots.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the fortress.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the fortress is progressed on its own.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you've got a best-down here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got delirium down here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got ritual over here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got breached down at the bottom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's just based on the direction you go on the three-dimensional map.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you don't pick it just this is where the abyss section is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is where the right tool section is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But to get the points in any of those mechanics, so a bit breach ritual, you have to first travel to them and then you have to do sort of like the little quest line that that comes which I don't mind that there's a quest line actually thing that's quite cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I can't progress two things at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I, I want to progress my Atlas passives because that's what's gonna help me sustain maps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna get like better gear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The content's gonna be harder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the Atlas passive is what I need.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if I wanna farm a biss, I need the Abyss points, but I can't progress the fortress, which is my main focus to get the Atlas passives.
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[SPEAKER_00]: While still getting points for,
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[SPEAKER_00]: of this or the other ones and I find it weird like even if I put a tablet in which means I'm going to force a biscontent give me a freaking point like give me something it just it because it means that I have to go to different spots in order to progress it's purposefully making it take way longer because I want to focus on the Atlas Passives that's where my biggest thing is but I need
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[SPEAKER_00]: the benefit of that list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to be able to enforce some increased drops of almonds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to be able to make the abysses drop more of the things that I need to progress my character while I'm progressing my atlas in the fortress.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's weird right now because you're so stuck that you can't do two things at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You are forced to go into another area.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really want to do a this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want the content of a this, but I want the Atlas passes and then like the Alice just just the progressing of finishing your 350 points you go into the middle then you go to the two sides and you go back to the middle and then you go to the two sides and you go back to the middle then you go to two sides and then you get to finally do the final version of the boss.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, and then if you just do the minimum amount of maps you need to do in your kill a boss, then you hit the little pillar at the top and it completely completes that quadrant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just get a boatload of points based on, I don't know if you ever thought that final boss on the very top, but...
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has six towers that you can click on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you click on one of those six towers, that whole imagine that the Imagine that the whole fortress is broken up into essentially a three by three cubed with the center being where the tower is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Clicking on one of those eight towers will completely finish that quadrant of the fortress.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you'll get like a 40 points in one hit that you get on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you could just buy those, those, um, those things to just fight that boss again and then click the next quadrant and then fill it all out or you go back down into the fortress and you're just, oh, no, you go back into the Atlas story and you're finding those pillar those beams right the red blue beams to do the iron citadel or whichever they are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did the map, I got the credit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And P-O-E-2, it's not like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's where did you do the map?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then what credit do you get based on that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just find that hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like the progression of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the key.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the key.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How you've described the progression makes no sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not progression.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the same person that loves going back and forth between NPCs to progress a quest line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is done the endgame.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You remember when past one had, all right, yeah, to beat the minute or all right, now you have to earn the drop for the chimera.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, now you have to earn the drop for the center.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then once you write, but it was all just like, it was very systematic and it all made sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This despite the fact that there might be some QOL added to it, it does not seem from your description anyway that it that it makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it just it doesn't have like a of a flow of progression.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What the progression is, the tedious and then here's a massive reward as opposed to an incremental reward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is progress, but you're only able to progress that single thing at a time and that's not really how path of exile in the Atlas has ever been before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, when I progressed the Atlas and P.O.E.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get the Alice point and then you're choosing what you're adding on to it, but there wasn't a whole different tree that I had to worry about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't mind that there's a separate tree like that's fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't really know what their hope is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're hope that I'm actually going to, like, if you think of when you first start, where you first start on the Alice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The first set of maps you do, you will not get anything for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Besides XP and drops, there's no Atlas point drops, there's no whatever, you're either working towards the fortress to start your allies passive or you're working towards a base or you're working towards breach or you're working towards delirium.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But those travel nodes give you nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just travel nodes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: getting any point out of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not progressing anything except I want to say anything and I realize I'm saying that you're only progressing your character.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do understand the progressing your character is a big deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But from the perspective of the Atlas, you're not doing anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're just traveling to that spot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you have to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish they found some way to combine them where I want to progress the fortress in the Atlas because that's the main, that's what affects every single map that I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's tough because they've decided to make the endgame outless like Delph.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just never ending.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can't give a point per map, but at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you like you're wasting your time?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, because after 350 maps you're done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but that's the, it's, what's weird is where the fortress is, if you wanted to, you could get all of your points by just finishing every single node within the fortress.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, from, from that regards, yeah, if you,
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[SPEAKER_01]: That then that makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why not just give a point per map right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you saying it away you go because right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get the encourages you to the 350 maps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're trying to tell a story which I get like they're trying to tell this story questline in the Ungame but they're doing it in a way that's forcing my hand and what I really just what really bothers me is I can't progress my Atlas which is the main thing while still maintaining or progressing one of the mechanics or vice versa
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't make any sense to me, so yeah, and it is too bad because at the end of the day and it sucks for the people that put all the Reference into the story, but the story is secondary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People aren't like, oh, have you seen Path of Exile's story?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like their newest addition to the story, this league, we got to play it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all about character progression in the story of secondary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, saying that people don't love it or appreciate it and enjoy it, it's just...
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a theory crafting game and a story is with it as opposed to a story-based game and how are you going to play through it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for most people I assume and so it's it's tough when the theory crafting or the customization of the game revolves too heavily behind the lore of the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Understandably it needs to be connected in summer guards, but when it's too much and it actually hinders the process or the progress of the Original concept of the game, which is theory crafting then yeah, that's it's too bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It shouldn't conflict with each other, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember Dragon's dogma one was phenomenal for that
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[SPEAKER_01]: no matter how you chose to play the game, the story, the progress of fast travel, all aspects and mechanics of the game perfectly intertwined together and it was such a well done game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they missed that in Dragon's Dogma 2, the types of builds that you could make in the character development that you had and the theory crafting that you had, the
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[SPEAKER_01]: did by no means correspond properly to the story that they were trying to tell and the things that they forced you into through the storytelling and it really screwed up the game in that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In the second game it totally conflicted and really screwed up the excitement and the progress and the fun of the game, whereas the first game really, really nailed it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have my, obviously, very strong criticisms to the first game of Path of Excel, but one thing that Path of Excel does as well as the story does not get in the way ever or at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, I don't, I don't know if it gets in the, I just find the way that they're doing it is odd, like I just,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, being forced to do that and only progress that one thing, like, I did the campaign already.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to progress your storyline anymore, like I'm in 10 game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to map, I want to go, yeah, do my stuff and it's spoke killing crap now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like, I just wanted, I'm going to talk to you about my building a second, but I just needed to anoint my amulet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You cannot just annoy your amulet unless you progress the storyline down into the delirium section and get to the tree and then talk to the wizard and then talk to the tree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't exist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the only way to annoy your amulet in the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just that was a bit frustrating for me even though it's not much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I understand it's only like two six maps you'll get over there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd I did But it's just maybe I just have to adjust the fact that that's the way they're changing it, but there's 350 nodes on that freaking out this past century I just it's weird to me to lock the progression of it behind and they have actually locked progression of their own trees to the storyline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So a this for example
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I go and do the Abyss storyline, the Abyss storyline says you need to go up and close the north gate, then there's three of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to travel these nodes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Each of those nodes would give you a point into the Abyss tree, and you work up towards it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you get, because you can still get points on the abyss tree from, you know, connected maps that say plus one for abyss, but you can actually stall out and have more points and not able to spend them because they've locked paths within their own tree to the quest line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, it just seemed, and they've done that even in the hours passive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I get enough points and I want to focus on just going straight up the right side,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't, they lock them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're locked behind doing different parts of the quest line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, well, don't do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no need to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I choose to be some dummy who just right loads the whole Atlas straight up to something I want, that's, that's what, like, letting me aim to do do encourage gameplay that don't have RPGS back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't understand why they've done that and then you can't unspeak now right in the in the Atlas Passive So you actually need to be a bit careful as you're progressing because you could make some stuff very very difficult for yourself If you're not paying attention to you can't respect the no person because it's a you can respect some of the big
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[SPEAKER_00]: keystones to just pick a different option, but you can't unspeak anything in the outspass of it because it's you'll get enough points for every single thing and so they get, I guess they just decided not really sure why it seems like it would have been a decent way to get people to spend some gold early on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have a struggle with the progression right now in the Atlas N game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, the fact that I'm 92, I still haven't, and I know it's on me, but I haven't done any maps for fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've done only maps that are to progress into the fortress or primarily a bis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I've just did something to get down to Delirium.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've done nothing else for fun, and I'm 92.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still haven't progressed that I'm doing T15s,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm working towards the final fight, which will give me my first hit of the, uh, at the top of the tower.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it should boring, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really boring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really too bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is actually that I'm not in the same part of the game that you are, but I'm finding the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The fun per hour is not there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you're not, like you said, like that should be a really big testament to how they go forward, making decisions based on their endgame content, because that's why people plays endgame.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are, how am I doing this for fun?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is fun about this encounter?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I feel like they need to get the Atlas back to how POE-1 was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt the joy of the endgame.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The second I did my very first map in POE-1.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That progression of the Atlas right into, it started right off the very first map.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved it in POE-1.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't get that in POE-2.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, it's so weird to me that for POE-2, your first introduction to the Atlas passive is go do these maps, but don't get anything out of them for now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Besides character progression, I do understand you get gear and love a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'll make them too hard, or you don't get any chances.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I cannot believe I don't have a lot of time thing is still in the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that it is still if you die to the boss, fuck your whole map.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How is that still in the game?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's shocking to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You lose your whole ritual, you lose everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they've built ritual around this thing of if you're lucky enough to get a boss in the ritual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You actually would rather do that one first because in the boss will carry for the whole rest of the rituals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you die one time, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything's gone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All the stuff you've earned up for in that ritual, deleted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's the thing that's crazy about this 2026 release instead of 2027.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know 2027's a whole year away, but you have all of this balancing and figuring out all these decisions to me like yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the way we want to our core game for December.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have all I think it's decisions to make.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think some, I think one more, I know it's coming out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But who does if that changes good and that changes good and that changes good and that changes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It won't get tested yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's no, it's all cohesive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't just add base types and think your filter is going to be fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you have to like you you it's such an incremental process over and over and over and they've done well with some of the things that they've had so far they've been very willing to bend on some things like what they just did with the cows trials of chaos this this go around awesome it was way better the second now you're making all these absolutely monumental core foundational changes for one point oh it's one change away one patch away
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, all of it, okay, so you haven't done, you're not in game yet, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: To now I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, it's gonna take me forever because I just, there's other things I'd rather do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am fine, like I enjoy the idea that I have, but the gameplay itself is relatively tedious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I'm just going to tell you my last complaint before I tell you about my character and talk to you about your character because this I do have one more, okay, this is a ritual event, they came out with updates to ritual and change ritual, terrible, whoever, however, some of these decisions were made, I, okay, I actually can't even try to understand where their brains at when I start a ritual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I kill the mobs, I do whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And rituals always can be difficult, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Based on your build, the defense offense, like they are difficult, you're fighting in circle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can get over that up until this release.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It existed all up since POE 2 and ritual has existed, but this release, they changed two big things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One, there's no more shortcut anywhere in the map, to open up the ritual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to be at the ritual tree to open up the ritual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Terrible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's an awful thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I get to the end of the map and I'd realize I go shit I didn't get my ritual reward I have to run back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not even marked on the map.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to try to remember Where was the list ritual that I did?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got rid of the shortcut key to open up the ritual anywhere in the map
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even worse, you cannot open the ritual at all until you've completed the final one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So as I'm going through and there's maybe three or four rituals in the map, I beat the ritual, but I can't click the tree to be like, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I'm done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need to do the last one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to find the last one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you can open it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I cannot imagine that those two changes were somebody going like, yeah, this makes the most sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: on they had to have been overlooked that i just why would you remove the ability to just open up the ritual anywhere that was the best part if i got to the end of the map and was like shit which i've done
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[SPEAKER_00]: everybody does now have to find it and it's not even like it's on the mini map.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't pull it up and see like, you know, you can hold down on the or the down, uh, D pad and like scroll around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some things show up on their but rituals are not one of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but then to not be able to open them until you're done, those are just those things were really done, really, really dumb choices for how to deal with ritual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: ritual in mapping is getting also tedious and I realize to ritual event so that's what it is but it's on every map, every single map has rituals and there's just uniques, the rewards are such garbage in rituals like it's just your recycling looking at really, really bad uniques.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that there's probably people that have gotten lucky and gotten some really good ones but
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so ritual was it's a bit frustrating for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to be able to open up wherever I am and don't make me do all of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What if I don't want to I don't play my game for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: GG.
01:00:21.208 --> 01:00:23.409
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me play my game anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I want to hear about your character.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to talk about mine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, just want to say something to new listeners.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know some of the stuff might sound petty if you've never played the game before or your own own you've only played path to but
01:00:40.160 --> 01:00:56.132
[SPEAKER_01]: Path 1 players have quite a few years of being able to manipulate their gameplay by design through GGG and Path of Excel 2's experience is a lot more handcuffed and a lot less.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot less freedom compared to Path 1.
01:01:02.576 --> 01:01:07.220
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of our criticisms are just simply because we have Path 1 to compare too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are also so many of them that are like, at any tiny bit change away from being awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, sure, stop fucking my whole map when I buy a di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di
01:01:35.250 --> 01:01:41.115
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, hopefully, but like, it ain't what it goes, Corey.
01:01:41.255 --> 01:01:43.437
[SPEAKER_00]: If that was particular changes, go, Corey, my God.
01:01:43.757 --> 01:01:49.142
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to have been, I'm hoping it was just something this, because it doesn't make any sense.
01:01:49.242 --> 01:01:51.964
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, how's your turn?
01:01:52.985 --> 01:01:53.186
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
01:01:53.506 --> 01:01:55.127
[SPEAKER_01]: I got about 10 minutes before I got signed off.
01:01:55.487 --> 01:01:56.548
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'll tell you about my career.
01:01:56.568 --> 01:01:57.309
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you about my career.
01:01:57.689 --> 01:02:00.652
[SPEAKER_00]: Difficultity, because of the difficulty at the beginning,
01:02:00.992 --> 01:02:02.153
[SPEAKER_01]: My character's good.
01:02:02.373 --> 01:02:05.335
[SPEAKER_01]: I started this the I send it as the smithicataba.
01:02:06.156 --> 01:02:11.559
[SPEAKER_01]: My first two options were mitigating chaos damage and crit damage.
01:02:12.300 --> 01:02:13.981
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to wear a white chest for that, right?
01:02:14.021 --> 01:02:14.641
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:02:15.202 --> 01:02:21.326
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'll keep going all my other ascensions are going to be within that same section as well of the ascendancy.
01:02:22.046 --> 01:02:24.468
[SPEAKER_01]: But then I'm going I'm currently using
01:02:26.591 --> 01:02:26.991
[SPEAKER_01]: excuse me.
01:02:29.252 --> 01:02:32.254
[SPEAKER_01]: The siphon skill from the wand, I forget what it's called.
01:02:32.274 --> 01:02:32.874
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, siphon.
01:02:33.815 --> 01:02:37.377
[SPEAKER_01]: No, the one that calls power siphon.
01:02:37.497 --> 01:02:38.537
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, power siphon.
01:02:38.798 --> 01:02:43.220
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I have added or lightning, a tunement to that and living lightning.
01:02:44.181 --> 01:02:52.645
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I've progressed enough where I can now do some tree swapping between having minion mitigation and simply just no mitigation,
01:02:56.527 --> 01:03:01.653
[SPEAKER_01]: or permanent minions, and so I have just unlocked level 9 gems.
01:03:01.733 --> 01:03:16.069
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm using Revers for that, and then with the calling that I'm using, I'm able to use a lot of the bosses throughout the process, I have ads, so I'm able to use zombies with the calling like I get a power charge with the calling, and then I can add zombies.
01:03:16.529 --> 01:03:20.072
[SPEAKER_01]: zombies are secondary to the build, but whenever I have a power charger at the zombie button.
01:03:20.172 --> 01:03:21.513
[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's working well.
01:03:21.533 --> 01:03:22.373
[SPEAKER_01]: It's progressing great.
01:03:22.433 --> 01:03:31.380
[SPEAKER_01]: The damage is definitely there, despite the fact that I had 8 billion travel notes to start getting to the, from starting from the warrior to get into the impactful notes.
01:03:31.540 --> 01:03:32.301
[SPEAKER_01]: But, um...
01:03:32.913 --> 01:03:48.897
[SPEAKER_01]: I really want to try this build idea out, I really want to see it through the campaign as tedious, and so it's not very motivating to get through, like the character isn't as like, so far I haven't found any experience in path to exciting enough to really want to play.
01:03:49.377 --> 01:03:49.817
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
01:03:49.837 --> 01:03:52.998
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember more of the tediousness of it than the excitement of my character.
01:03:53.438 --> 01:03:57.459
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that's just me, or if that's just how the game is designed.
01:03:57.739 --> 01:04:00.340
[SPEAKER_01]: I seem to remember it differently for path 1, but again,
01:04:02.177 --> 01:04:23.690
[SPEAKER_01]: person playing a game so who knows which where that falls but I'm in act 3 for myself to play a little bit and for the most part I'm enjoying it yeah sure tedious but I'm also enjoying it you know what I mean like it's kind of like on both sides my uh series so big or I don't want to do that boss again so I don't do the ritual but when I level up I'm like sweet what's next and then you know I see what's next and
01:04:24.470 --> 01:04:34.496
[SPEAKER_01]: So looking forward to going through the rest, I am in X3, just killed Silver fist, like I said, Kill Jameric Way, I hate that fight, it's so stupid, but did it first try?
01:04:35.976 --> 01:04:43.200
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeffries, what's his name, Gregory, Jeffrey, he at the end of act one, whatever it is that I did that.
01:04:43.821 --> 01:04:46.262
[SPEAKER_01]: Did that first try, but it was also very, um,
01:04:48.007 --> 01:04:50.188
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a good fight, like they've made some changes to that fight.
01:04:50.368 --> 01:04:54.689
[SPEAKER_01]: There's still some skills, especially the beams that come down that you don't actually react to.
01:04:54.709 --> 01:04:56.289
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to tell where they're going to hit.
01:04:56.649 --> 01:04:59.070
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, but it's not a reaction skill.
01:04:59.130 --> 01:05:00.631
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a hope you're in the right spot.
01:05:00.791 --> 01:05:01.151
[SPEAKER_01]: Skill.
01:05:01.751 --> 01:05:02.511
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
01:05:02.791 --> 01:05:06.452
[SPEAKER_01]: And everything to do with Jumeraquay is just stupid.
01:05:06.512 --> 01:05:08.013
[SPEAKER_01]: There's so many things that...
01:05:10.033 --> 01:05:12.615
[SPEAKER_01]: Require you to have done the fight.
01:05:13.076 --> 01:05:29.088
[SPEAKER_01]: I had a time and have a lot of experience with the fight to properly deal with it There's it's not a good fight for tells how they do the lightning throw in the first phase and Just the how busy it is with how big the Torneidos are.
01:05:29.108 --> 01:05:33.811
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that's another thing going back into the like the color scheme like what kind of damage is gray?
01:05:34.652 --> 01:05:39.894
[SPEAKER_01]: What does tornadoes do, what am I, what am I mitigating there, how, what am I, yeah, air, right?
01:05:40.974 --> 01:05:47.797
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, like, there's just so it's just not a good, like, act to really, you know, come on.
01:05:48.257 --> 01:05:50.438
[SPEAKER_01]: And the back to I have nowhere to stand.
01:05:51.118 --> 01:05:52.219
[SPEAKER_01]: No time to hit you.
01:05:52.259 --> 01:05:55.280
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I could not imagine playing this game, mainly.
01:05:55.620 --> 01:06:03.505
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, who's going through that designs this game, melee being like, yep, I got time for this, yep, I got time for that.
01:06:03.865 --> 01:06:08.608
[SPEAKER_01]: Only someone who knows how to build a melee character knows exactly what they need is gonna have a chance.
01:06:08.628 --> 01:06:10.630
[SPEAKER_01]: Even with melee, you're having to like, time to be like, not yet.
01:06:11.530 --> 01:06:17.716
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and that's okay, if you're given time to do damage, but then the damage needs to be worthwhile.
01:06:17.756 --> 01:06:19.257
[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be better if you'd be big.
01:06:19.777 --> 01:06:26.703
[SPEAKER_01]: And melee isn't like I know they're considered melee skills, but melee isn't a trick with this volcano skill that travels all the way across the screen.
01:06:26.743 --> 01:06:29.205
[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's not actually melee.
01:06:29.225 --> 01:06:35.991
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean, sure as the melee tag, but like to do close quarter combat in half of these important battles, that's crazy.
01:06:37.292 --> 01:06:59.128
[SPEAKER_01]: right so anyway I'm having a good time and that's but but that's what I'm doing living lightning zombies and then it's swapping between means stability with skeleton warriors or currently reefers but I'm gonna be trying out broots and see if they're actually worth using or not so that's right man tell me what you're built I am the disciple of
01:07:00.773 --> 01:07:14.759
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I do not remember four times, I've ascended four times and I don't remember I don't know if it was a thing when these guys first came out because I know I played the digins before Gins before I remember and you had a really good.
01:07:14.939 --> 01:07:18.921
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was fun with them, but I don't remember our con being a thing
01:07:19.882 --> 01:07:23.723
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember it might not have been a thing all the way to last time.
01:07:23.783 --> 01:07:26.163
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot on the tree for Ark on now.
01:07:26.543 --> 01:07:29.824
[SPEAKER_00]: And it is strong, strong man.
01:07:29.904 --> 01:07:34.245
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, holy balls, undead Ark on gives you like, hold on, I kept it open.
01:07:34.265 --> 01:07:36.505
[SPEAKER_00]: Could you imagine holy balls, holy balls?
01:07:36.545 --> 01:07:37.285
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what this is.
01:07:37.845 --> 01:07:41.206
[SPEAKER_00]: Every time Ark on of undeth, that's the one that I have.
01:07:41.246 --> 01:07:46.587
[SPEAKER_00]: So I have a 15% chance when I use a minion skill to get or a command skill, to get Ark on of undeth.
01:07:47.347 --> 01:07:59.193
[SPEAKER_00]: powerful minion and command skill buff grants 25% more minion damage 200% increase cooldown recovery recovery rate for command skills and 100% more temporary minion limits
01:08:00.716 --> 01:08:05.177
[SPEAKER_00]: That damage 200% more minimum limits.
01:08:05.397 --> 01:08:09.298
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, 200% increased cooldown recovery rate for your command skills.
01:08:09.799 --> 01:08:14.840
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the important one for the jins, but then 100% more temporary minion limits.
01:08:14.900 --> 01:08:17.661
[SPEAKER_00]: 100% more temporary minion limits.
01:08:18.061 --> 01:08:18.401
[SPEAKER_00]: 10 to 20.
01:08:19.101 --> 01:08:31.429
[SPEAKER_00]: But the more minion damage and then the increased CDR on your command skills makes it so that as the gin you're just like, as long as you have the mana, you are spamming your command skills.
01:08:31.449 --> 01:08:35.732
[SPEAKER_00]: You couldn't use them fast enough and the damage is bonkers, man.
01:08:35.752 --> 01:08:37.994
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's so, so, so, so strong.
01:08:39.675 --> 01:08:45.399
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's been, there's some things in here that I don't remember that have made it so much fun also.
01:08:46.635 --> 01:08:50.217
[SPEAKER_00]: Because so I started with the gin and then I went to why I started as a sorceress.
01:08:50.497 --> 01:08:53.979
[SPEAKER_00]: I went to a send and I was like, I don't remember the gin.
01:08:54.619 --> 01:08:55.700
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember what it is.
01:08:55.980 --> 01:08:57.701
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember liking sand and fire.
01:08:58.201 --> 01:08:59.602
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was doing some research about it.
01:09:00.022 --> 01:09:01.983
[SPEAKER_00]: And then as I got playing more, I was like, well,
01:09:02.623 --> 01:09:29.835
[SPEAKER_00]: at this arc on his bonnet like it's gross the damage is so crazy but I'm wondering what people are doing because you have to balance your cooldown it's kind of annoying that I can go into a boss fight if I don't time it properly because you have a 20 second cooldown once you once you lose an arc on buff you get an arc on cooldown recovery essentially and it's 20 seconds base where you cannot gain another arc on okay booster in that time sure so you have to balance out a bit like you're trying to figure out like when to use it.
01:09:31.162 --> 01:09:32.003
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like this.
01:09:32.223 --> 01:09:32.764
[SPEAKER_00]: It's cool.
01:09:32.784 --> 01:09:34.226
[SPEAKER_00]: I know probably people think it's fun.
01:09:34.426 --> 01:09:37.249
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like that there are hidden annoyance in the game.
01:09:37.469 --> 01:09:42.896
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like that there are annoyance that I can put on my amulet that don't exist on the tree unless you know about them.
01:09:43.516 --> 01:09:44.998
[SPEAKER_00]: And there is one had that too.
01:09:45.078 --> 01:09:45.939
[SPEAKER_00]: They did it then.
01:09:46.179 --> 01:09:46.820
[SPEAKER_00]: Never liked it.
01:09:47.381 --> 01:09:50.685
[SPEAKER_00]: Especially when there's one called Dominion.
01:09:51.875 --> 01:09:58.699
[SPEAKER_00]: and Dominion just says that you get a 50% reduced effect of the R-Con effect, right?
01:09:58.719 --> 01:10:03.543
[SPEAKER_00]: So that 20% more in that 200% whatever, but it removes the cooldown recovery.
01:10:04.883 --> 01:10:07.545
[SPEAKER_00]: That is a, I would, are you kidding?
01:10:07.585 --> 01:10:08.486
[SPEAKER_00]: Why would I not take that?
01:10:08.546 --> 01:10:17.432
[SPEAKER_00]: To always be in the R-Con mode, even if I'm taking that 50% reduce effect, the damage is crazy, but that's a hidden,
01:10:18.557 --> 01:10:18.837
[SPEAKER_00]: thing.
01:10:18.978 --> 01:10:21.400
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't have known it had I not gone online to look it up.
01:10:22.061 --> 01:10:33.114
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know why I hate any notable or keystone that has the word Dominion in it, because it keeps showing up when I type in when I control F-minion in my build plan.
01:10:33.955 --> 01:10:36.558
[SPEAKER_00]: Because most of the time when it says Dominion has nothing to do with
01:10:39.863 --> 01:10:51.130
[SPEAKER_00]: So I have, and then, you talk to you and I talked about this, but I didn't really pay attention to how strong sacred rituals is, which is the yes node.
01:10:51.530 --> 01:11:06.520
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's, if you're getting the full thing, the first one gets you like one second less on your recovery, cool down, and I think you also get some increased energy shield, but then sacred rituals, which is the following one, which is 60% of your current energy shield is added to your armor.
01:11:07.040 --> 01:11:26.907
[SPEAKER_00]: For determines your physical damage reduction from our member you having that when I was complaining a few leagues ago But getting like every arrow just right ruins my whole game like it's so much and then you're like well About this I'm like it's crazy because right it was I went CI 2 which has been so much fun I've not played CI and pui 2
01:11:28.828 --> 01:11:32.631
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, when you play in rituals I see I.
01:11:32.691 --> 01:11:35.633
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I really want purple blowing up things I don't have to move.
01:11:35.894 --> 01:11:36.614
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll just stand there.
01:11:36.754 --> 01:11:37.175
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care.
01:11:37.755 --> 01:11:41.338
[SPEAKER_00]: But how do you know you have to move for grain or do you have to move for purple?
01:11:41.418 --> 01:11:42.679
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't move for anything anymore.
01:11:43.020 --> 01:11:46.783
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you take damage on some of them, which one's which what's the difference?
01:11:47.123 --> 01:11:49.345
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why sacred rituals though is crazy
01:11:49.625 --> 01:11:53.546
[SPEAKER_00]: because it's not actually giving you an armor value.
01:11:53.646 --> 01:11:55.407
[SPEAKER_00]: So it can't ever be reduced.
01:11:55.727 --> 01:11:57.548
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't be armor broken.
01:11:57.668 --> 01:11:58.708
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't have my armor.
01:11:58.768 --> 01:12:01.009
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not giving me a flat number of armor.
01:12:01.109 --> 01:12:04.470
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just giving you straight up percentage reduction against physical damage.
01:12:05.210 --> 01:12:06.531
[SPEAKER_00]: That's so, so strong.
01:12:06.551 --> 01:12:12.013
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm sitting at like 62 or 63% physical damage reduction just from that.
01:12:13.753 --> 01:12:15.794
[SPEAKER_01]: That's one thing I've been thinking about with my build.
01:12:15.814 --> 01:12:23.218
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like I'm starting all the way over here I want to I love all these different defenses, but then my mind I'm like I could have just started this sorceress I think you would like this one.
01:12:23.258 --> 01:12:27.561
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you've ever tried the gin right no because I don't think there were any you don't like active skills
01:12:28.748 --> 01:12:31.610
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're not that bad, though, but I do understand that.
01:12:32.130 --> 01:12:40.274
[SPEAKER_00]: But Paul, man, the damage that you get combined with that R-Con buff has been very smooth.
01:12:40.294 --> 01:12:44.437
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I ramped up to T-15s very, very quickly, and I'm doing all the content.
01:12:45.750 --> 01:12:51.051
[SPEAKER_00]: haven't had any problems with any bosses or dying to anything and I see I so nice holy crap.
01:12:52.012 --> 01:12:53.512
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, how much yes do you have?
01:12:54.792 --> 01:12:56.993
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I switch to see I early.
01:12:57.013 --> 01:12:58.953
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I only had like 4,000 when I switch.
01:12:58.973 --> 01:13:01.034
[SPEAKER_00]: Just because I want to do it, but I think I'm 9,100 now.
01:13:02.114 --> 01:13:05.415
[SPEAKER_00]: And are you finding the gears relatively easy to come by?
01:13:06.115 --> 01:13:08.556
[SPEAKER_00]: I crafted my chest, which was awesome.
01:13:09.057 --> 01:13:11.958
[SPEAKER_00]: The, I think a couple items I've probably traded for.
01:13:12.018 --> 01:13:13.499
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't trade for anything into a hit 90.
01:13:13.519 --> 01:13:16.040
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I'm gonna wait till I get to 90 and then I'll figure it from there.
01:13:16.481 --> 01:13:18.141
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so funny though in Path of Excel.
01:13:18.201 --> 01:13:23.664
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that it's a numbers game and sometimes that's just not my thing, but I'm trying to like ramp up my E.S.
01:13:24.585 --> 01:13:31.869
[SPEAKER_00]: And it just always cracks me up when I put a chess piece on that I'm like, okay, this isn't too bad, but somehow I went from like,
01:13:32.782 --> 01:13:37.063
[SPEAKER_00]: 4,000 to 9,000 ES, but the ES difference was only 200.
01:13:37.124 --> 01:13:41.105
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not in being sarcastic, but like the actual flat amount on your chest.
01:13:41.385 --> 01:13:44.106
[SPEAKER_00]: How much that ramps up with percentage is crazy?
01:13:45.046 --> 01:13:46.247
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it just doesn't make sense.
01:13:46.307 --> 01:13:55.290
[SPEAKER_00]: I went from a 400 ES to a 600 ES chest and I didn't only go up 200 ES, like the amount that I actually went up in energy shield is crazy.
01:13:56.627 --> 01:13:57.607
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it hasn't been too bad.
01:13:57.647 --> 01:14:04.810
[SPEAKER_00]: I've crafted all my stuff, but I started to learn how to use a biz crafting specifically for pushing higher ES bases.
01:14:05.750 --> 01:14:07.811
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, so now I want to go even higher.
01:14:07.831 --> 01:14:14.033
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I can get that even higher, but I don't need to like, it's been, I haven't had any problem yet.
01:14:14.093 --> 01:14:15.754
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's fun.
01:14:16.454 --> 01:14:19.815
[SPEAKER_01]: Crazy strong class though that are you attempting like I've been
01:14:25.905 --> 01:14:28.247
[SPEAKER_01]: The more I've played it, I've been like, man, tie with like this.
01:14:28.287 --> 01:14:32.852
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, you've heard like, we've been playing path for a decade and you or more.
01:14:33.052 --> 01:14:35.594
[SPEAKER_01]: And how many times have I talked about going C.I.
01:14:35.614 --> 01:14:36.155
[SPEAKER_01]: at level 16?
01:14:36.175 --> 01:14:36.415
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:14:36.455 --> 01:14:36.976
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:14:37.176 --> 01:14:42.481
[SPEAKER_01]: And like how many times have I wanted to integrate C.I with minions and have it in a way that I like it.
01:14:42.721 --> 01:14:43.001
[SPEAKER_01]: And you,
01:14:44.473 --> 01:14:53.335
[SPEAKER_01]: Despite the fact that I'm insistent, quote of quote on really pushing through this and seeing how it works and game, there is you are hitting on all the things.
01:14:53.835 --> 01:14:55.876
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm using all the characters.
01:14:56.376 --> 01:14:58.376
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm using all ES bases.
01:14:59.236 --> 01:15:03.837
[SPEAKER_00]: I have got so many, so much spirit and so many little buddies running around with me.
01:15:03.937 --> 01:15:04.918
[SPEAKER_00]: Fuck you and fuck you.
01:15:04.998 --> 01:15:10.819
[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing is, because they all, I mean, I'm using them to muster up for my main damage.
01:15:11.857 --> 01:15:19.459
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so I don't know how that would be for you because it's because I'm definitely getting a lot of my damage out of those active, but it's not like they're that big of a deal.
01:15:19.479 --> 01:15:20.319
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just my right trigger.
01:15:21.080 --> 01:15:22.180
[SPEAKER_01]: I, well, that's the thing.
01:15:22.520 --> 01:15:25.141
[SPEAKER_01]: I, with my build, I'm holding, I got around to you.
01:15:25.521 --> 01:15:26.621
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm holding right trigger.
01:15:26.901 --> 01:15:31.722
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my either going to be what eventually I want to be ball lightning, but for now it's just the calling, uh,
01:15:41.805 --> 01:15:43.086
[SPEAKER_01]: Every now and then I hit X.
01:15:43.426 --> 01:15:47.548
[SPEAKER_01]: Typically that would be contagion or that would be my curse or in this case.
01:15:47.568 --> 01:16:00.936
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my zombies So I'm fine holding down Unactive skill as long as I'm ducking and dodging and doing whatever, but I I think I have to go but I don't want to ask No, but how do you find the recovery like you're getting damaged?
01:16:01.136 --> 01:16:06.719
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't like you can change the speed that your energy shield recharge is but you can't change
01:16:07.279 --> 01:16:10.220
[SPEAKER_01]: the delay from damage to recharge, right?
01:16:10.240 --> 01:16:20.341
[SPEAKER_01]: Like in path one, there's that third dimension where you can change the second difference between okay, I've taken damage and there's the typical and it's shield recharge start time.
01:16:21.502 --> 01:16:22.722
[SPEAKER_01]: In path one, there isn't that.
01:16:22.862 --> 01:16:23.802
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you find it?
01:16:23.822 --> 01:16:27.803
[SPEAKER_00]: But you get it, and you do get it, right, in the first, the third ascension essentially, right?
01:16:27.823 --> 01:16:28.643
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you get minus one.
01:16:29.323 --> 01:16:30.843
[SPEAKER_00]: So now you're down to three seconds.
01:16:31.003 --> 01:16:33.844
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm, but you can change it beyond that.
01:16:34.284 --> 01:16:38.572
[SPEAKER_00]: No, and I'm actually taking a note that increases the timer because it's the 50% increase.
01:16:38.592 --> 01:16:42.378
[SPEAKER_00]: It's up at the top or it's like 50% increased energy shield, but you get a 20%
01:16:44.362 --> 01:16:50.706
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and I'm familiar with the cluster, how do you find that delay?
01:16:50.746 --> 01:16:57.189
[SPEAKER_01]: Because for me, Path 1 and CI was highly dependent on making sure that I was like, it was guaranteed, it was a must for me.
01:16:57.609 --> 01:16:58.990
[SPEAKER_01]: I had to have it at two seconds.
01:16:59.290 --> 01:17:02.632
[SPEAKER_01]: Which wasn't difficult to get in Path 1, but I had to have it at two seconds.
01:17:02.672 --> 01:17:03.572
[SPEAKER_01]: Have you through my humble lessons?
01:17:04.953 --> 01:17:07.355
[SPEAKER_00]: and that is the combo lessons is your heel.
01:17:07.736 --> 01:17:10.258
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you put it on where you get two of them.
01:17:10.278 --> 01:17:21.029
[SPEAKER_00]: So you put the supports on that lay you have two shots and you hit it and it instantly starts your energy shield recharge and it gives you a period of time for like 3.8 seconds where it won't stop.
01:17:22.022 --> 01:17:46.958
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and so it's just you find that convalescence is you can use it as a flask as Typically whenever you want like as long as you're not getting damaged damage damage damage damage because you're I don't know how it would have been had I not been all the way to the fourth ascension to get that 60% counting towards my armor But that's where the that's where it doesn't even really matter because I have so much defense But it just isn't matter as much
01:17:48.029 --> 01:17:52.854
[SPEAKER_01]: I wish character progression was because I really want my character.
01:17:52.914 --> 01:18:00.502
[SPEAKER_01]: I really want to see what my character is like in endgame, but I really want to do something very similar to what you're doing.
01:18:00.803 --> 01:18:01.643
[SPEAKER_01]: At least just the base.
01:18:01.704 --> 01:18:05.127
[SPEAKER_01]: I just love it in minions or yes incurses or both.
01:18:06.668 --> 01:18:13.350
[SPEAKER_00]: And it hasn't been hard to push the S up high like really has not been hard to push the the energy shield high So anyway, let's wrap it up.
01:18:13.370 --> 01:18:18.192
[SPEAKER_00]: We can talk more about it after dark, but We gotta go, but I love you forever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a coffee this morning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, buddy.
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