Aug. 9, 2026

Dead Man's Chests

Dead Man's Chests
Dead Man's Chests
Forever Exiled
Dead Man's Chests

Whaaaaat? Do our ears deceive us? Another Path of Exile 1 league before Christmas? Before PoE 2 even? Questions, questions! Decisions, decisions! And in the meantime, chests! Lots and lots of chests! Love ya! (Thanks for listening to episode 356!)

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, come to forever excelled.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just Naked Tags.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tyler Rickett, what's up?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did it just swap us positions?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It just won't be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm mine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm now on the left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You were on the left before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay to change sides of the bed sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Feels weird, but hurts the neck of the next morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 356, I think.

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[SPEAKER_02]: 350, 350, 350, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360, 360

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we had a good time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for some reason, they're always like the last ones to book on the Providual site.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, OK.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The other ones are, I mean, it's pit toilets and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's no electricity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no cell service, so maybe that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But man, it was like, we had the perfect campsite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was right, Nick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, I kind of planned it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when you're booking, you only see the two-dimensional map, and you're like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hopefully you don't know what the woods are and the privacy is between campsites and stuff like that Normally when you go camping, you have like, you know, your three-ish neighbors right left right and behind kind of thing But we only had the one and They Really nice but terrible

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then we were right next to water.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were like, uh, didn't even know that there's like a sweet straight shot to the service yard And it was just it was it was it was an awesome spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So whether we know exactly which was glorious well, except for the forest fire and smoke stuff So this smoke was already complain about the smoke in the air if your house is burning down, but if your house is burning down

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're getting a lot of air, air warnings for being outside and for people with asthma or breathing conditions, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it last year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, look, look, look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gonna show off my wife's knitting mug.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is about as porno as we, how to get, I think.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Turns me on every time, I see this mug.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, that's hot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not me, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that's up in it for me for you not they as in okay that's not sex is common that's that's a that's in general okay yeah anyway native my fingers could anyway um so last year I think it was last year of the year before I was talking about that like splurging on certain tents oh yeah yeah and like all that up the super easy like you'd basically just

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[SPEAKER_01]: pick them up, and they go, but did you still keep that throat?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that the same?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did, we decided to keep them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's big four, you know, like when the kids get older, like, you know how when you go out in your at Canadian tire and you have like, here's a six person tent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You go camping once you know six person actually means like four people and that'd be really snug You know what I mean the four person tent is For a couple yes, not for four people right for tiny people that for some reason they they use the numbers like sardines

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so um, anyway, their large tent was for a couple.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a two-person tent and Aaron and I like our heads Like it wasn't even long enough for me to live ten.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean like because they didn't it just it drew up to a little too much and there wasn't proper just

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[SPEAKER_01]: you were paying for the convenience, but they didn't even have like the basic features for a comfy tent like there's no pockets or anything like that and there anything that was just easy set up that's what you pay for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like double the price of my sweet Swiss army tent right and I'm keeping up on tent prices because you know just stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like when you drive by a house and you're like oh I live there but you're not planning on moving, same kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, we decided to keep them, and so they each had to set up their tents, and then each, I mean they're not tall enough to properly set up their tent, but, you know, we made it as independent as possible, and the site had enough for three tents?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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[SPEAKER_01]: My guilt won't let me do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to do it and there was like nothing left for the day that we wanted, but man this site was amazing

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, it was the whole time, and it was the first time we also used, we bought a propane fire pit a couple of years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, maybe four years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because for those listening, there's in the lower mainland and British Columbia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's always very, very dry in the summer, despite the fact that we get tons of rain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Throughout the rest of the year, there's always fire bands, throughout all the provincial campgrounds that were at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So as much as we'd love to have a natural fire and we were able to last you're not allowed but you are allowed with the majority of the levels of firebans you are allowed to have propane fires

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess we were a little naive with like what's supposed to hook up and what's common what's not and all this and we have like a damn man like we can't be carton around this massive huge stuff thing and then well now we have to bring around this like eight kilo propane tank yeah like well it's eight empty so like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, like all of a sudden we have no space for anything, so and now we have an 80-pound dog that has to lay up the kids feet at the bar, so Dan, while we're going, so we can't even use that like, normally we would like Kick kids, pack your bags down there, and you know, they just sit and cross, like it for the hour and a half to get to the spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when we first bought the propane to our the fire pit,

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[SPEAKER_01]: we're just like sweet got it but it was like fall right got in the good deal because it was fall time god knows i didn't open it till like just before we were gonna go camping which was stupid and we know and we got it through amazon but she always double check a crap and we didn't and we should have because the knob doesn't work properly so we actually have to bring like a pair of pliers to frankly deal it because the knob spins instead of actually works like a knob so

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is the first year we used it because the other years that we went during firebans my in-laws were with us and so we just used theirs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have a much bigger truck so they can pack all of crap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you work with the camping crap?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it works great and so we kind of use this as like our buffer for like our tester ground like we were using the propane apathetically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the morning you're cold, awesome, let's turn it on at night, awesome, turn it on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to stay up late, turn it on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was kind of like the first year, like the kids are 11 and 13, but it was the first time we kind of treated them more just like adults in a way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they were allowed to stay up with us as late as they wanted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go to bed when they wanted, keeps it night on at night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The tent is late as they wanted, partially so they wouldn't be scared.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, oh man, the amount of times like age, you hear that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it like so it was just one of those things where it was just a really good time and as a parent there was a lot of firsts for us as well like next year is going to be like You know what I mean, but this year is all about the novelty and so we had a lot of fun and so yeah, there was one night where Aaron and I were

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we had great neighbors too, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, that's always nice to see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There was always a camping.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, like, one person, like, 20 spots away, but they're blaring their music because they're not paying attention a quiet time or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just like, sucks very quickly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the second night we were there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody was watching the screen, scary movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, what horror movie are they watching?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm trying to fall asleep, but I'm like, I can't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, I recognize this horror movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You hear the like the screeches and the screams every now and then, but it's too inconsistent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's too much for it to be like an actual horror movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, what's going on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all of a sudden I hear what's there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's ah, let's ah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you remember the old bud?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was ever watched.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do know what you're talking about, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Scary movie added that to their scream parody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, right away, I'm like, oh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know what's happening now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of funny, but there was a kid that just every morning at like 5 a.m.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Screamed for half an hour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't you start this with you had great neighbors?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, okay, sorry, but so every day we woke up at 5am because the kid was screaming, but he was the nicest kind of guy on the planet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so gentle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this his kid starts screaming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He tries to give it like five minutes because he needs to sleep to not not going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Put the kid in the car starts driving around and every now and then he goes like baby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but everyone was kind thought for respectful the dog did phenomenal, which we were really nervous about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you were a good time, we just got back there yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, we, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We blitzed yesterday, so there'd be nothing really to do today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had a really good time, and then we're going up to Mainland last place next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice man, busy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's busy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's busy this August is good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to play land tomorrow night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've actually never been.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't think about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't think about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we're mainly in land for like 30 years, I don't think I've ever been.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, and we're intentionally going when the P&E's not on so that...

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was actually, it was fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Those two things always synchronize me because I know that they're at the same place, but they don't always run together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't actually know what one is versus the other.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's all the same.

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[SPEAKER_02]: P&E playground or plate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it like the park?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the other is like you would call it like a fair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I know it actually fits you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know or yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know if that's just a fair that only happens there or if they take it around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very, very, very.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know, but I used, I did some research when I was bookin' the tickets because I'm like, I think Hoover's Vancouver, man, like it's, and it's like crowded, it's jam packed, there's not, it's like constantly congested, so you get one event, whether it's at BC place or wherever, I don't know what to call it now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's just like the traffic sucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so um, it was like one of the only two weekends Where the P&E wasn't on or there wasn't other crap happening close by so I'm like Aaron you got to pick one of these two dates She kind of froze so I'm like all right, it's this date When are you going?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's good tomorrow nice doing the we could afford the weekend or sorry the the night passes So the kids are gonna be super stoked staying up nice and late

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[SPEAKER_02]: Man, that's fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't even remember the last of my went.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I way it would have been years and years ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, I'm not doing anything there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna have like, you have my ear plugs in and like, I don't know, I'm not going on any rides or anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go in like the, I can't, I'm not even doing the T-Cops.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go in like the little kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is it called again, piny and play land play land's the park that's right always there cool so anyway I had a great week busy week and but also it's going to be school right like we're two weeks into the path legal ready But it's we're in the middle of a while beginning of August, but We get we're here next week We're actually no we leave.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we don't leave Saturday

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we're here this week, we're gone next week, then there's one more week in this whole, and then it's cool, but we've saved ourselves for school supplies and stuff to only get them that last week of summer, which is...

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just do the Walmart special.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just going gone through Walmart.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what the shopping scene was going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's seriously, I do not need to be roast fills with hate the day or the week before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be honest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just know that that's what she does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I had I had a good week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My friend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool man for asking is how is your week?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was busy, but it was good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Works going really well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, so we do this week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Still working our way through fringe Christina was gone for the Saturday because they went to see Ed Sheeran They did in Seattle and then what else did I do this week though besides I'm trying to think of what I did that wasn't work

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had, um, dead more time with your girls right last time we chatted you still had a few more days where it was just you in the ladies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We hung out, took them all for dinner and did we just watch movies and chilled.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, they are off Galovantine and having a good time right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to look at my list yeah it was it was a good week I mean it was it was busy We had my oldest was down with this partner so we could see them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was under crappy situation, but it was nice to at least see them But the are there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are they okay?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's everything's a spice somebody choice away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it was yeah, you know too bad, but yeah

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[SPEAKER_02]: The week otherwise was very I can't even think right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I played Power World with Logan, which was awesome I don't get time even that and then I played some Path of Exile as they came up with the leagues Or sorry with the updates.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw like I just like I got back yesterday

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[SPEAKER_01]: had a chill evening with the kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We stayed up a little bit later, you know, like a quick subway dinner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I, by just, just when I was doing notes this morning, did I see any patches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I skimmed through them and then there was a developer interview with some big news, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't like barely caught up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't watch the developer interview.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just died in the partially got through our discart discord notes, discovered something about the interview.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll be able to talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But any other, like, big info, unless you saw no, no, okay, so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, and I'm doing the trip, but yeah, I haven't played it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I played a bit, so we'll chat about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the week was good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just, there was a lot of meetings.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a lot of back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Things are good, everybody's healthy, everybody's happy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: to play video games sometimes so it's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really trying to get through the fourth book of Dungeon Crawler because I bought the fifth book and now I want to start the fifth book, but I need to finish the fourth book.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you're on the timestamp, personal timestamp.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm trying to get through it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I've got like 100 pages left.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think, 120 pages left.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So God, the books get big.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my Lord, I think this one, the fifth one and the sixth one from what I can see, look the biggest.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But like many other, I don't know, 70.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea how many there are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I actually don't I actually don't know what the end of it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I was reading the fourth one and I was laughing at Christina that when you look at the fourth one like from the top down and you can see all the pages.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: it looks like they were like now it's put these two books together like it looks like it should have been two books and uh yeah they're just so heavy it's funny trying to read and bed whereas George R. Martin he starts writing is like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I got a separate book, this is getting too big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a separate these two books.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean the books are so fun because he's very good at being descriptive without being exhausting, like you're not bored of him telling you like painting the picture.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think it's also quite, I mean probably a bit beneficial to him with the fact and it fits so well that you get to see

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[SPEAKER_02]: item names and descriptions and NPC and enemy names and descriptions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As if you were play in the game and it's sort of like you're reading the description of what this item is or you're seeing that NPC and you're getting a bit of their backstory.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah that kind of stuff obviously is in the book quite a bit, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: Super fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited to get to the fifth book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't don't spoil it for my Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to read it, but it is going to be one of those annoying things where I hope to read the series, but the price points of those books are mine saying thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess, and sorry, I wasn't even, I wasn't doing the look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I book?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I wasn't doing the roundabout.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I appreciate that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was going to say that I'm getting the first book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: probably never getting the other ones, but I want to read the other ones, so it's going to be one of those like, never spoil for forever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, like, you got to sauce us very soon for the first one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And at 30% off, it was still like $90.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I know, wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I was laughing to Christina that he the prices are contingent on the size of the book, because I started looking at a curiosity and I was like, it does scale with the freaking amount of pages.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like all the books are different prices because they're but I think about that when I choose to publish my book I was like, how am I gonna?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, hi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I'm like how am I gonna do this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what do I do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to choose?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can when you self-publish

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, like self-published through Ramazon or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's there's base points, of course, because costs have to be covered and there's a minimum amount that you need to be able to earn and all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But outside of that it's like okay, well, what's my philosophy going to be is it always going to be the same no matter how much work I put into it is it's how am I going to go down for money time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get this because that's what's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My modern day, Elyad, is going to be so popular, just so popular.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, yeah, so I'm glad you're enjoying it, though, that you are willing to blitz it and it doesn't ruin it for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I still am in joy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's I impressed that I've still been reading them because I typically fall off the books relatively fast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's fun, stories are really well written, stories are fun, and I love the game side of it, like it's just really cool, so yeah, life's good, things are good, it's like what path of XL.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Baby, let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you didn't play this week, obviously, because you were gone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I mentioned at the beginning of the last week, like I played before I went for camping, I went camping on Monday, so I played Saturday, Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I kind of remember that, but it's not like, for me nothing new happened, I'm going through the camping.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Last night I played for a bit until I couldn't keep my eyes open anymore, because...

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[SPEAKER_01]: That kind of redundancies, all the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, Chris isn't just, you know, we've done the campaign a million times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I could barely stay awake for act nine, as soon as I hit Act 10, freed ban and then turned on a different game so I could stay awake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, but it's good, like the build's crazy strong for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's zombies, phantasm, and I'm a tank, and so I just stand there, they kill, and they're killing much faster than they used to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what the last time I did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right, you know, it's like really fast noodles, so anyway, yeah, it's so far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just, I'm going to keep playing it a little bit too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm for some reason I've been thinking about path two, not path one, but I am going to keep playing plug and away with path one for a bit because I want to see what the build is like with the changes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bailed on the Guardian version earlier, and I'm like a biter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm don't want to be too outdated with your moments on the side not to play anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's the garden.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the garden.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like they all done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I only switched over to the garden.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it was last leak only before anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I barely put any time into it with the amount of time I put into the path one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I do want to truck through with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And get it to a point where I've experienced a lot of the end

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just see what they're like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As I remember ages ago is well bailing on zombies because I just didn't want to deal with the corpses and they would die from like uncontrollable dots, you know what I mean, that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the Reaper was just so easy with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's it, but yeah, I mean, I'm just beginning to be camping, sorry, beginning to act and I'm not much talk about there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sweet, but I, they were comments that I read regarding some of the things that we had said and some things that were incorrect or some things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We say things as we talk to each other and then people hear it a different way and so there's been a couple times where people are like you said this, but I'm like, I don't think we've said that ever before so I just want to point out this is just two of us talking so I neither of us know anything with regards to what's actually happening, we're just chatting but apparently on a second thing on that is

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[SPEAKER_01]: a lot of the times listeners are half listening to a podcast we get that like that's that's the audience and so feel free to correct us call us out on whatever but also keep in mind that you might have heard something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I definitely like to be corrected because I would like to know like one of the things was that

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I just a couple of things a point at one, they added now you can resurrect mercenaries and they had added that in the point one patch, but last week when we were talking point one had just come out and prior to that you could not resurrect mercenaries and now you can resurrect mercenaries in a map so you can

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm bringing them with you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Still can't swap between mercenaries, which I think is quite silly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Matt, you can't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a load out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like one two load the map or zone with the mercenary.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the only mercenary allowed in that area.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's a little bit silly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Be cool if you could weapon swap.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like have one per weapon set.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think the idea of having to pay to resurrect them is a problem on its own, just because I was thinking about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have to be gold.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like it's crazy, but imagine if you had spent all your gold gambling or trading, and then your mercenary died in a map or in a zone and you didn't have any gold, you actually...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Your character is like gold is now a part of like I remember when I was playing Dark Souls there was that Dark Souls 2 my favorite one There was a sword where if they was more powerful you had more attack damage The more souls you were caring really spending them on yourself and you can I had a nice bonus and so one of the rings that I had was

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[SPEAKER_01]: when I die, when I died, when I died, I wouldn't lose my souls.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The ring would break and I would keep my souls.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I would just pay small amount of souls to keep it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was like, I just don't that ring slot, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now all of a sudden, though, now it's like, your gold is a part of your, just like my souls, which we're just supposed to be leveling me up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're a part of my damage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now all of a sudden, it's like your gold is a part of your damage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just built.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not, yeah, it's a requirement to be able to still

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's not like it's a lot, but the, yeah, I just, you would want to make sure you have extra mercenaries.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, um, so that was one of the things there was also mercenaries resurrecting them, there was something else that I said.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember, but also, apparently there's going to be a 3.1, you have to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so there was that, and then I think there was something about just comments regarding path 1 sustainability.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did see that, which that's where I go, like, what the hell do we know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're just the app, and it's just like the two of us don't know anything besides what we talk about as bodies, so I have no idea, but there was something else regarding the

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can move the marks in your hideout.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you to the person who pointed that out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was on Spotify, but you can move the marks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The problem is, for some reason, the murk, can you know when you go into edit your hideout and you get all the tiles of all the things that are layered on top of each other, whatever?

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[SPEAKER_02]: For some reason, the mercenary goes to the bottom of the tiles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So when I was trying to move the mercenaries in the original hideout which I had,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, which I don't even remember who made it for it's the old forever excelled one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's all grass and it's just forever excelled.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the coolest hideout.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, that's the one that I was in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But all of the layers were on top of the mercenary soon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I even saw the names mercenary one, mercenary two, mercenary three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I actually had to load a blank hideout to be able because I want to see if that was true.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, did I miss something?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I did, you can't move them, but they go to the bottom of the tiles, which is too bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They should pop up above.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's easier to move them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even see it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Still, still, still, still.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so anyway, you can move those a path one sustainability.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?

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[SPEAKER_02]: On it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, she, uh, I love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's just up in her, um, Hogwarts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, just for chores, playing the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so he's been back into Hogwarts like I see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess we cut to this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We did cut to this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually don't remember what I said asking Helpermine to because I actually remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, my daughter interrupted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She saw just up in her Hogwarts gear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was just asking because the stairs are right next to the office.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She asked if she had to wait to vacuum the stairs until I was finished podcasting and she still has to play video games and she's not allowed to play video games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: until she's finished her tour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I told her she could back in Western problem, because that was a very thoughtful question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But she, she doesn't like it when you call her character names.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, she.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and I'm not like that's not like you didn't say what I said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, because I said, oh, it's not like she's not going to get mad or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She just would have been, oh, no, no, no, no, I'm sure not Hermione.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I say, I'm my original name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, but it's really, yeah,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's my house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, they're back at me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, excuse me, there was an autistic kid at the playground at the campground there, and it was so fun, because it was more a more dependent autistic kid, sorry, my, my, my voice, you know son, caught up there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but no, it was more dependent on statistic kid there and that my daughter who's high functioning and so It was really really funny watching them and fun not watching them interact, but totally understand each other right like the other kid could barely speak But it was like they spoke that's good was hilarious, so I know that just reminded me of

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of all that, but you were talking about how Merx in the Heido art prior to the art on the There was something I said though on the layers right as she walked in and I kept moving But anyway, yeah, so oh and people's regarding the path one sustainability and just we'd have no idea I think I was gonna say well, that was one of the other Things coming up because that ties into the only thing that I know about the zzz interview that they

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, tell me because I didn't watch it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What is it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the only, I just, it was a comment on our discord that was saying that in the interview GGG said that there is going to be one more path league before the end of the year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's where it came from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See, but it was a common specific to, as just now, this is just wording from like this, what was mentioned in a comment on our discord.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This wasn't me, like I haven't heard the interview.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know the exact word against two buddies talking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: from what I read, it said, by the end of the year, which sometimes between a relation to path to, where the path to is on time or to late so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The other comments I read were that 3.30 specifically was supposed to be coming out sometime before Path of Exile 2, which to me is a bit surprising.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't anticipate that they would do that, and for with regards to the sustainability of the two, regardless of what we say, it will happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There will be a Path of Exile 1 path of Exile 2 for the foreseeable future that's not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's our changing period too, coming out in its full state does not change period 1.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Being developed and continued because I don't think period 2.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think period 2 is a full successor to period 1.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that wasn't the goal, maybe it was the goal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not really sure, but I don't think that's what it's going to be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think people will move from period 1 to only paper, only play period 2.

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[SPEAKER_02]: At least the majority of people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: but I am curious because you can maintain the ability to throw out leagues every two or three months, but can you can you maintain doing it and them at least being good?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, not just the top

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[SPEAKER_02]: the theme and the ideas are all great and God their creativity is bananas like it's just next level they are they are incredible but it also I mean you can see just the small things get missed I mean we we're gonna talk about the patch that came out the point two patch part of the league mechanic didn't function with the brand new ascendancy that they made like that's

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can make mistakes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I understand the things can get missed, but that's my only concern with regards to continuing at a high rate of output.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's the level of QA that's happening with some of that stuff?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's my only thought.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it ever stops having a POE one in POE two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just what's the quality we're getting in them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, we'll have to, we'll have to see hoping for the best, of course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like I'm the kind of person where I have no problem with simple I do not need it to be big I do not need it to be complicated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm a core player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a standard player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not playing for the temporarily new content to give me that new flame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't get excited for restarts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get excited for modifications and changes like I don't mind changes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't mind

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[SPEAKER_01]: Changing how the end game works or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but my comments then are just specific to like I don't need a fresh quote of paint every now and then to like, oh, now I really like my room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for me like add a new kind of strong box with a new like add something to a league that's already there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just to try it out, see what it's like, and that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's enough for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that's a majority though, but I do know what you mean.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But for me, so, for me, if they go forward and they're just doing, yeah, we're doing this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, we added new ring type, and you can get it through this mixture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they went forward and that's how they maintained their

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[SPEAKER_01]: balance of work hours between games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because to me it's always about the core experience, the core experience, and not to get back in a loot or anything like that, but they haven't even given themselves their own time to deal with their own loot problems over a decade, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my hope and dream just as a fan of their

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[SPEAKER_01]: to give themselves time to really make sure and deal with the entirety of their game over and over and over, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was writing a note, so I wanna bring it up with you later.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you just know what you mean because I just not related to this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think their system needs to include time to deal with like the big picture on a regular basis.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's why I'm a bit surprised that a 3.3 would come out before the POE 2 release.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The only reason I can even see that is to try keeping hype going for your full release.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's tricky.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it is very tight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you would have to be coming out with it in like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: middle of September, beginning of October because we know they want to launch probably mid December for the full release of or beginning of December somewhere around there for you too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really tight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well,

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[SPEAKER_01]: They took the time, the six months after the last path to launch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They took the time to make it, okay, six months because we're going to launch, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing's officially officialized unless there's a video that we haven't seen, but just they've said, like they really, I think it was Jonathan just a random interview said, like really want to launch in 2020, six, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they took the time off, then they said next big update or whatever league is going

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, taking that time off lets them cross their teas and doth arise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But imagine if you launch and it needs a lot of work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the later you launch in a December, like closer to that Christmas break.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't nail that launch, then it's just a super, like that's when you're looking for your revenue, that's when you're looking for your support packs, that's when you're looking for all your traffic, a lot of people in the world are going to be off for that certain timeframe, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then if it sucks, that sucks for the company, of course, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So do you want to risk opening when you could get more hype for that time, but it's got to be a good release,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this for that buffer period?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this the September the one year mark of early access?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this the first leader?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or is this two?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it'll be two years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be interesting to see what happens.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like I said, we're just two people chatting about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we don't have real insight or anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're just talking about how we feel about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, it's surprised that 3.3 would come out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think PLE2

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is another thing that I saw comments made, which, again, I think people either misunderstand or mishear us, because we don't have any idea what's actually going to be done for puity with the time that it comes out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I have no idea if they're coming with more classes before the nurse sentences before then or more base types, or if they're coming with acts like we have no idea.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I would be very surprised to see POE 2 come out as it's full launch with all of that stuff in it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think we're going to see, I hope they have acts at the very least that the six acts are done and the storyline is complete, but I don't think we're seeing a bunch of classes and ascendancies and that's the stuff that I get excited about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see the new ascendancies and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My personal, just my personal opinion, if I was at that table, I would say it's impossible for it to be a full launch, without all the basics in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you're basically to have all the X, you don't have to, because you can come up with a story like they did when it was only just the 3X, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's your basics then?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you, every class has three ascendancies, and you know that right from the character selection screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To not have all the ascendancies is the game shows that they're available, but they're not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So having something that's clearly shown as unavailable is incomplete.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have base types in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have stuff on the tree for base types that You think that how that's just agree with that part, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there are things where like basically to me a completed game is What we've shown you is available not just parts of it

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well that's not as so much as sentences though, that's more classes than because you don't see the ascendancies at the beginning when you're picking the character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see the class that you do you can scroll through them at the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you are selecting, you can tab through so it's like your highlight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But does it show you if anyone is just blank or what does it do when there's a missing fact?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, it does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And even like on PC it shows you the skills that aren't there yet,

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[SPEAKER_01]: black.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but you get rid of that, and that's fine, but unfortunately when it comes to their class and ascendancy system, there is that consistency, there's no way they're going to have one class with one ascendancy, and then have like the witch and sorceress combo has six ascendancies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They could.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've had a sigh on with one ascendancy for like 15 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but that is of course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was its design and it was obvious what how that design was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All the other ones were were consistent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So to me, to just to me, that's my own personal thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't call something complete when there's visual, like clear in completions there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't know how it would be for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how a game like that comes out as complete.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what actually complete means to them when they're making their game because it's not coming out complete.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no way within the time frame of to the end of 2026, do they have, I would be just, I mean, cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really care what it is either.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't care when they come out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care when they release one point or the full release.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just more curiosity to see what happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the 3.3 surprised me a bit, because I was like, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: do we really need to do another purely one league like maybe maybe other I'd be curious to know why they would need to do that is it just because they already had the information or the plan for it or because it doesn't follow any of their timeline which they're terrible at any way so it's not like this is following any timeline of every four months you'll get a a new league because we're what oh two weeks into this league right we came out like

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, but even not now, but like, yeah, but we try to do our privately a few weeks into the leagues, so then are we doing another one in 3.3?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they're just, it's weird to have them that close, but maybe it's just because we're used to having a bit for their way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe they're, if they're able to launch path to at the time that they want to, maybe this path one is like, okay, if path one's released then then path two, maybe they're setting up the new system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so what you do going forward with how that company works and functions even remember when they were trying to do the beta certain way and they're like, no, like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: we're not releasing the beta of the way we let sure we and that was kind of like when they kind of screwed up and didn't even have a POE one league for a year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, no, no, no, no, no, we're going back to just the league system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we're most comfortable with, we're most productive with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the assumption for fans going forward that that's how they're going to function as well right on off on off on off on off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe this is just, maybe that's right, starting here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's why, like, I hope they don't announce anything like you say with their timelines because they're not very good at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, but if they, maybe it doesn't make sense to start that process until you've actually launched Path 2, but you've got to have an idea of what you're hoping to do and so maybe that's what this next path one league is like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That does make sense that they line them up better because otherwise they'd be at a very

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like if you do October, path one launch, two months later is December.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the end of the world right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's August.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a two-month league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This seems like a pretty large league just in terms of what you're adding to the game and the resources that you would use behind the scenes to make it design it, complete it, test it, keep going forward, to just

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[SPEAKER_01]: throw it away in two months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But maybe it's not that complicated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's just what it looks like, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think a lot of the stuff too was ported over, not that it's just as easy as porting it over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But a lot of their improvements were things they took from Pui2 and brought into a Pui1.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the league itself is all new in their endgame stuff is different.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't even did they change endgame actually now that I'm thinking about it, besides just a bit of a miss, I'd have to look.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I have everything else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was just going to say I haven't noticed the difference on the end game side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm almost completed now with my Alice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got two of the four void stones.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember if there's anything new that I've noticed besides the whole going under water stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I see it going core, unfortunately, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The crafting is awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the crafting with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why don't you see it with your problem with that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you my problem with budget is, but I am curious what yours is, because I don't know how much you've actually done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: of the underwater league stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, go for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tell me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, no, no, I'm curious though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, my stuff's not going to be relevant to how you're describing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, it's more, it's another way to craft and then it's a another area thing to do through and it's just to me that kind of stuff, no matter how cohesive they might be in a long term.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just, they just keep dividing game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just another mechanic to deal with in the end game and so for me,

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[SPEAKER_01]: temporary fine, but I mean, they changed campaign stuff for this, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the all-flying and all that kind of stuff and interactions and stories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That maybe that reverts, I just don't see those, I see those kind of changes being like, yeah, we made this choice ahead of time, let's do this kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like when they were adding Alva and John and Einhar, they did those as leagues going forward, but with a full intent that they would be integrated into the core campaign, that just seems like exactly what this is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they need to simplify it if they do because I have I have played it I have done the here's your little map you go do the map

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[SPEAKER_02]: you go underwater.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That part's fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The planning, the voyage, which is when you're building, you know, this three by three square, dude, that part is way too high level for me to want to do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is, when I actually looked into, like I was looking reading it, you know, instead of just like, okay, I'll build a path.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I assert to recognize like, oh, there's actual things on these tiles that are affecting other tiles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So then you have to think through like, okay, if I place this here, this is giving these adjacent ones 60% more rare monsters, or this is doing this blah blah blah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then all the paths can't always touch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you have to adjust and move some tiles out, but then I didn't even realize that the whole

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so imagine there's three squares right, along the bottom, each of those edges.

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[SPEAKER_02]: has another modifier that is on the board itself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not part of the actual things you put in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So then those, I was like, no screw this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to do this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is not fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I also am I supposed to do it a certain way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They even have the option to reroll them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you can pay to reroll the outside modifiers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh my, I just,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really struggle with the voyage part.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The whole like just normal going under water part.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do really like it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't mind the voyages, but the prep for them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it is the combination of some of my most hated leagues.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it just, it's synthesis in such a gross way because I was gonna bring up synthesis.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought you were describing this because I'm not at that part of the league again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that people like synthesis.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember when we talked to Octave and he said it's one of his favorite leagues.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Your brain is too high level.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't do that like I can't maybe he designed this league just for you I know that people love the idea where you can min max this thing And you can like plan it all out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to do that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to just go in there

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[SPEAKER_02]: like I love that for some reason I can have a four right across road that meets no direction if it goes down but yet if I have something else let's just straight above it they go no you can't do that I'm like what

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can the bottom have a block and like is fine, but right in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just too much like I've tried to figure out how to do it, but I don't think I actually want to understand how to do it because it's not enjoyable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not, I don't find it fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, um...

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's the worst parts for me of some leagues.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's synthesis.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the like the grand heist.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really love doing them, but planning for them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just used to find that frustrating.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and then, like, I'd be able to even talk about this we can purely, but one of their patches is so funny because,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was talking about it last week that everything is on the ground everything and it's not loot it's like boxes that's where stuff's coming from and a biss I was bringing up a biss like why would you buff the freaking chest that come from a biss when 40 rares just came out like what how a buff those rares and give me some loot and they did that that that was one of the things point to it is that they nice

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[SPEAKER_02]: Increase the loot from from this, but one of the big, this is the one of the things I wrote down from earlier because you'd mentioned something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But what my biggest thing that is frustrated me from playing Path of Exile right now is it hurts my wrist.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am clicking on so much crap.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you go into the underground like underwater, that is where everything comes from.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You are literally just scouring the floor to find shells.

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[SPEAKER_02]: loop boxes, messaging of bottles, like the mobs don't matter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't seem like the mobs matter at all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're just trying to find the stuff on the ground to click.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's cool when you find it, but it might have my hands or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the one thing that I've actually struggled with the most is I'm like, well, this would be really fun to do, but I know that I'm going to click on it, least entire inventory is worth probably twice of individual items.

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[SPEAKER_02]: that's brutal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so bad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the whole idea.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I struggled with it because the it was weird to me that the mobs felt like they were worthless and all they was doing was running around trying to click on the things on the ground.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The goal was great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It actually helped me do stuff in Kings March because Kings March is still a blast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's it Kings March to me, you know, I like it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's simple.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They simplify it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They took away all the extra stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's easy and if this goes core, they'll simplify it too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's some stuff in Kings March that you can't get anywhere else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I actually don't know how to get tattoos outside of going to Kings March.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I just don't know how, I don't know if there's other ways to get them, but the underwater has helped me maintain the gold balance to keep doing it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, my, my, my, my, my, my risk hurt.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's just, it's too much crap on the ground.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it really is unfortunate that I don't feel

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't get what I'm getting out of killing mobs besides getting more of the currency that's used to craft later.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and then also on the crafting side, even though I think it's cool, and I just said it's amazing, I hate that it's not in my hideout.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like that I have to go to somewhere else to do it, and that it doesn't connect to my stash, so I have to remember to pull out the stuff from my stash, which granted there's a stash tab right there, but I don't, I just, the crafting is so cool, but I find myself quite often forgetting because I'm just more in a hurry to,

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[SPEAKER_02]: the exalt slamer, ancient orb of belt or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even know what all the things you can do with the crafting system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So overall when you look back at this league, are you like done with league now?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I still am playing my luminaries 93.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I won't play another character.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have no interest.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will do one when we do a private league.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But no, I won't

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am I think the league is fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just it's a bit boring for me and I think the boring part maybe boring is not the right word.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to click boxes like I don't I it's exciting when you get a box I love the idea that a box is special and you're good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know you're going to get something good out of it, but I don't want that to be everywhere and that's the only way to get it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that is kind of how I feel right now with PathVexL one like that don't feel super rewarded for killing mobs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel more rewarded for clicking things and.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I hope that that's I hope that that shifts a bit because I don't want to I don't want to click things I already have to click them to pick them up now I've to click them to also open them and some of the cases they make me click them twice in the sleeve like that needs to chill stop it if I click it once it should open after I'm done any even better let me like group all that shit together they got better about doing that but it still doesn't work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What would you think of the idea of killing monsters on locks the ability to open chests?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's just how loot worked in the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they do that with this league, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: When you click that one chest, those two types of chests, and then mob spawn, and you got to kill those mobs in order to open them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that where your time looks that's like strong?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like what if that's how the game They're just the core aspect of the game monsters didn't drop loot Yeah, to kill monsters to get to the next section of the map, but then you knew that chest was going to be glorious one kill I love that maybe as an additional thing, but I like that if I kill this monster and I go through the fight

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[SPEAKER_02]: I get rewarded for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I want and I want it to be because that monster was holding the good stuff and I killed them and now I get it Not because there was a chess behind them that I clicked on you know what I mean.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just find I thought about both sides and I I actually prefer if you had to choose because having a balance of both is really tough Sure, right because then you run into a situation like you're commenting on where

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[SPEAKER_01]: the monsters aren't giving enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The chest shouldn't be my reward, but then you have a chest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So obviously it needs to reward me with something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I had to choose, I would prefer monsters being the only source of loot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you have both, it's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot to balance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot to go through.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you can just make clickable things on the ground, much more rare and valuable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like why does it need to be a ton of them?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Why can't they be like what strongbox is used to be?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You'd come across them every now and then.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They were good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they always kick your ass because they're friggin' ice-nove in the past or reflect.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's some crazy shit, but that was a good way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you had

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[SPEAKER_02]: You could do multiple maps worth of rares and killing stuff and getting loot, and then that one box was probably representative of what you did over one or two maps, and it felt great, because you only got that every 8 or 10 maps, like you didn't see them all the time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I definitely don't need just in general of regular chests.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't need 80 of them of a map.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're needed at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, like I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the like the special ones like you're talking about like yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what this league does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if like in maps, but while I'm campaigning, there's like one of two of those boxes or areas instances per instance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Say a requirement like that for chests.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like those are the fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All the other kind of boxes and you only have like strong boxes or the curse chests like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like yeah It's just it's weird like if I go underground in these underground areas if I find Treasure clams or gold piles Those are awesome because I know I'm gonna get a bunch of gold But couldn't you have just increased the gold drop of those mobs instead like in that zone?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Which would then make me also be paying attention to which

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[SPEAKER_02]: tablet, I'm putting into run.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just, yeah, my wrist hurts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And gold auto picks up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So thank God, I don't have to like, click all the individual golds, but you can click on these stashes and just like, look, with, with currency.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you have pick it all up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I love that there's no time limit to it until you're finally finished.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think they've done a good job in how they, like, had the processes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I'm really tired of clicking stuff on the ground, like

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, anyway, we didn't even talk about any of this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What did they do?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Curse of improvements.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the 3.92.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this was when they were going to release too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so the 29.2 came out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I was just more annoyed that I'm like, Oh, cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now my build will actually work with some of the stuff that you built for the league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you got a...

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully next time they market something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: it's like it's it's tough like the the mercenary things really complicated right it has a pretty never-ending amount of options and that's a really tough thing to like it's it's on them for choosing that is that's what they market and that's what they go forward with that's what they're adding to the game they're making a whole ascendancy about like all that's on them but it is this but it's almost like it's destined to fail on us

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's a tough thing to really name it out though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's this isn't a balance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What they had to change has nothing to do with like, how they balance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I think the balance of mercenaries is brutal, but this is just, if I, it's the same thing as when I click on a shrine and it works.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If I click on a shrine, my mercenary, if he's beside me, gets it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No different than if you were standing beside me, get it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But in the, in the voyages, when I'm in there, there are shrines that you can click on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, for example,

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[SPEAKER_02]: 20% chance increase that transmutations will drop as chaos.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I click on that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was only affecting me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not my mercenary.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't kill anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's such an old school.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like follow three where you don't get XP if you're following.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He'll stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a 20 year old problem that should have been fake years ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're just RPGs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You think?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I, I, I, I listen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody's going to call me and be like, you idiot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not what it's.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's how I read it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't care if that's not how it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then they should be more clear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because that's exactly how they wrote it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If I read one of them right now, offerings to the deep

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what it was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was that this current currency can become that currency.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was not affecting mercenaries and mercenaries in my case.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of cases were the ones doing the killing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then, and I wonder too, because maybe that just means what you get when you choose to, what you get when you choose to like fight the mercenary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is specific to these ones, because it says that, and these things only show up in the void, just when you're underwater.

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[SPEAKER_02]: that's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so, and I, the thing was, you probably wouldn't even have done this in haste, but in haste, you know, you're going to lock the trinket, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you trinket slot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There were trinkets that had an increased chance of Kale Swords dropping as devines, and they, it was a very rare.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Trinket and it was awesome, but you felt the effect even though it was low even though it was very low You could feel that effect when you had it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I went through and I was going through this one I'm like, man, these shrines are really cool That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That transmute can drop to chaos and then I got one that chaos could drop to divine I was like, oh, I wonder if those like combined together like the transmute can become a chaos kid

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't see any divine through this whole voyage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, maybe the percentage is just really low or bad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was just that I never got the bad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That your zombies didn't count.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so like that stuff's not the same as balancing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The balancing part of mercenaries is I think the...

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[SPEAKER_02]: that was my biggest frustration.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My build is flying now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I luminary takes so long to come online.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like how much work it took to actually feel good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But if you're great now, I'm doing tier 16's.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't matter what they are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can run them, I think I've done most of the content now that I wanted to do, but I still have my Atlas spec with like 20 or 25 points worth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: to mercenaries because that is my road map to upgrades.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't improve my mercenary if I don't find a new mercenary.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and I can't find a new mercenary, effectively, if I don't spec into it in the outlustry, like that's where I just, my head gets thrown with that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't like it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't feel free in my outlust passive, like you know how much I love the outlust pastures.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My favorite part of Path of Exile.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love it in the end game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like it this league.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel trapped in it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I have to take these things because,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Currently my my mercenary's great and strong and I can do the content, but the fact is I can't change out her skills I can't change out her supports.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am limited to just changing up her gear, which means the only way to improve her skills and supports is to find a new one And so I just don't like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a fan of I feel trapped within my Alice passive and I don't I don't like that so I like the class.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the idea behind it is cool, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: I still try in the end to grab new mercenaries just to try them out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll get them right now in my tier 16 so that I'm doing now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, oh, that looks cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like to combo those supports.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll take them into a tier 6 just to try.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not changing anything else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I still have my flame link on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They get their base damage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what one is supposed to do if like mercenaries aren't competitive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really tough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I love the idea behind it, but the balance of the mercenary that I agree with you is super hard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what their solution is because some of them are just dog shit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're awful, awful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not helpful at all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's tough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like awesome idea, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: you got to do with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I shouldn't have played it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's I'm glad I did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm not saying you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you're not a deal with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm saying like you can come up with a great idea, but you got to be able to say like, yeah, it's probably too big for our timeline.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What we're doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't mean my comment in response to yours, but like I'm glad I played it, but I probably would have been happier not playing it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: At least at least you'd kind of knew that ahead of time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do know your big, big smashy smashy, you know you like going renew on a second character, not a first character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you called yourself out on that ahead of time, not saying like calling yourself a like you wouldn't like it, but you knew ahead of time you were doing a big big risk for your league lunch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And luckily for you, you're not needing to wait six months until your next path one league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, and so even if something went burning out with this outside of the PL you're still in like October I feel like a lot of way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Good point of playing through with this guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm 93.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm almost 94.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't feel like there's something new to do with the character and I don't

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just, the Alice passive pushes me off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't like the clicking because I hurt.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it actually does get tiring on my wrist.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's not a fun way to play.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If I want to play for a bit in the evening, I don't want to go to bed sore or do in this with my hand, like trying to, whatever, but I play with P. We too, like, I'm already sold on it in P. We too, I'm not going to change.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But P.O.E.1, no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I've heard enough from you and just understanding that there's no customization, like, no, that's not for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially, I mean, I would have been able to promote it a bit with some of the cool features they have if Path 2 didn't exist, but with all the cool things that you can't support God with Path 2.

01:00:04.004 --> 01:00:04.084
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

01:00:04.924 --> 01:00:06.686
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:00:06.826 --> 01:00:14.011
[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough to go, like when you're starting with Path 2 and controller support, I'm never going to be able to sell you on controller support for Path 1.

01:00:14.531 --> 01:00:18.794
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm used to path one with hands, like keyboard and mouse and it is what it is.

01:00:18.834 --> 01:00:19.975
[SPEAKER_02]: It's always been that style.

01:00:20.035 --> 01:00:25.339
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't mind that, but I'm also older and my body hurts sometimes.

01:00:25.559 --> 01:00:38.448
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I don't want to be sore when I go to bed and they could fix it if they would stop making me have to click 40 billion things just when I want to do a map or just when I want to go into the water like that.

01:00:39.228 --> 01:00:41.469
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's a very unnecessary to do it.

01:00:41.509 --> 01:00:42.250
[SPEAKER_02]: They've gotten better.

01:00:42.290 --> 01:00:47.792
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you think about how it was a long, long time ago, they've definitely improved that process.

01:00:47.872 --> 01:00:51.134
[SPEAKER_02]: But this league just feels all I'm doing is clicking.

01:00:51.414 --> 01:00:52.975
[SPEAKER_02]: Just click on a box, click on a box.

01:00:53.015 --> 01:00:54.836
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I'm still playing it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where I'll take it, but I think it'll probably be here and there to do some maps for fun.

01:00:59.858 --> 01:01:02.079
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I'll do the privately when we get to the privately.

01:01:02.099 --> 01:01:05.181
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to burn out and not do the privately or not want to do the privately.

01:01:05.201 --> 01:01:05.361
[SPEAKER_02]: So.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They, I don't know how much you've done the underwater stuff, but the message in the bottles, have you seen those?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, they're really cool.

01:01:13.678 --> 01:01:16.499
[SPEAKER_02]: They basically have just random loot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You get these message in bottles.

01:01:17.819 --> 01:01:19.259
[SPEAKER_02]: It takes up a two by two square.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And when you write click it, it gives you like some note that was left behind in some item.

01:01:24.120 --> 01:01:28.281
[SPEAKER_02]: And you can get, I get apparently people can get like, head hunter and mage code and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was saying in Discord, what would have been fun though as if those message in the bottles were,

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[SPEAKER_02]: like quotes or something like do some generic quotes or lines or comments or whatever, but the loot was good loot that was lost by players dying underwater or unable to collect it.

01:01:47.067 --> 01:01:52.570
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that'd be fun if you knew that, oh, somebody had a chance at this and they did best with the dead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So happy cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good idea.

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[SPEAKER_02]: yeah the league ideas really cool i just it's too much clicking for me and i went into with a class that's i mean i hate sign on it's not new that i don't like the sign on class but uh... the luminary i was a really cool idea i don't mind the idea that i'm an orba i feel fun playing it but

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't like that my, my road top grades relies on my Alice pass of tree.

01:02:19.592 --> 01:02:21.433
[SPEAKER_02]: That's weird, Jim.

01:02:21.813 --> 01:02:22.053
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

01:02:22.273 --> 01:02:22.534
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:02:24.074 --> 01:02:24.395
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyhow, cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds good.

01:02:28.337 --> 01:02:30.258
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, we're in terms of time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you want to talk about P.L.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, tonight?

01:02:33.787 --> 01:02:34.648
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure.

01:02:34.948 --> 01:02:37.210
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do it because probably it's time up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you usually do it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we've been trying to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Excuse me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been trying to do it about one month into the league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:02:46.676 --> 01:02:50.138
[SPEAKER_01]: Because then like they were it was technically a new league every two months.

01:02:50.679 --> 01:02:58.284
[SPEAKER_01]: If the schedule GGG was hoping to have right every four months for a new game, but it'd be every two months for us if we're playing both.

01:03:02.787 --> 01:03:18.702
[SPEAKER_01]: So that we weren't doing like a path one PL right when path 2 path 2 came over just after a path 2 came over so we're at the two week mark now But we're got a book ahead so people know okay so we know chat about that after dark

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, lucky them.

01:03:21.484 --> 01:03:22.024
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: More scheduling talks.

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