Funnest Week Ever

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to forever excelled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just naked eggs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Tyler record days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I should say it's lower aka tags with a z.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not aka naked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Tyler and I'm not naked like Justin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Episode 349 of our podcast together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's 350 to more, or next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what comes back, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like the 35s in the 50s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I always felt smart when I was like a kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I could multiply 35 by 2 and it meant 70.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they just, the numbers didn't make sense to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I always felt like that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or like multiplying by 15s or 35s was different in 25s because 25s was easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I always felt super cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Super smart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm ready for calculus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, make sure to pay drunk things everybody who resubbed up this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Patron gets the access to afterdarkes our podcasts after the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we appreciate the sport.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How is your week with your little dance party behind you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, oh, yeah, is the what color of your wall new?

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[SPEAKER_00]: better not be this is my only room and she took it over why does it know why do I feel like that purple's new you got like a little dance party with the right that's not purple let's do my walls blue and that is then the bottom bottom bottom spank it looks it looks it looks more purple I wonder if you guys were is it seriously just that controller she puts the controller next to it no this is like I'm picky with my blues too

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if there's like some kind of light little baby blue crap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like my royal club, but like punch in the face blue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember the was a Ford probe that light baby was it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, thank you back for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wonder if there's just some like that sort of changes, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there's like five years in life where people try to have the automatic seat belts, where you close your door into the, yeah, over top, mind when you got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did it go this way across, I don't even remember how it worked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was magic you stepped in and already was across you and went across and I remember one time getting pulled over and even the cop was like, um, because I hadn't done the bottom one, but I just because I was stupid kid, but you should always where you see built, but I didn't put the bottom one on in the cop saw that I wasn't wearing the bottom one and I was like, but I think I took it, uh, to not take.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right, didn't even do any anyway, uh, how was your week?

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[SPEAKER_01]: a good week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a busy week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a very busy week where we're going into savings mode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, because ExcelCon is in November, and I have been gifted an opportunity to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's fun, sorry for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And a big, big, big, big thank you to the generosity and kindness to be able to allow me to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're taking the opportunity to take the family.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of those things where we never ever would have been able to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: without the generosity that we've received and so we're taking advantage of spending some of our own money to make it so that the kids, the kids are at a great age travel 11, 13, my wife shall like there's no reason for her to ever go to New Zealand again, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this is kind of like a once in a lifetime thing for us to go to, so

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're in penny pinching mode now because we're going to make it we're going to make it work and it's going to be good, but we're going to make it work in a fun way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to go there and like only have craft in her every night kind of thing like we want to do experience the culture right and exile con is in the downtown Auckland and as I've been learning about the actual geography and layout of where everything is a lot of the cool tours the attractions are about three and a half hours away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're not going to mean and so

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh you know what what's good to combo with it what's not do we want to do like two trips from the center of Auckland all the way out is do we want to switch our hotels all that kind of stuff right and so but also thinking about what it's going to be like for the kids and also myself I'm of course the least of the priority in that case I'm already going up going to a conference will be the super fun cool um

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, okay, well, how do we want to space out those last few days?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't want to do Hobbitin or the blowing caves or jikdo want to hack us stuff without me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, wow, what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, I mean, every marriage goes through ups and downs, but that would be pretty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a big one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a big one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you have to experience it through that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there is still so much to do in the area of Auckland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I mean we're going through and we're doing all the research, but I found a phenomenal deal on Both the stay and tickets through Fiji Airlines that we were able to afford all four of us to go Yeah, it's cool man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like on for people like us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's unheard of like we've been saving for windows for 20 years And then one thing after another happens and happens and so that just the opportunity for a trip like this is

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really nice and so we've been going through that the last few months, but now that detail's been finalized in terms of dates and flights and all that kind of stuff now it's okay penny pinch mode got get this amount of money by this date and it'll be like but then it'll be like luxury you can enjoy your time you know sure yeah yeah we don't have to worry about it all and it's going to be really nice so

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're really excited about that and so I guess on a side note for anybody listens to the podcast Maybe like how Justin and I made like a little a lay channel When we went to L.A. Maybe I can make uh we can make a new one and then for something that we can chat in while we're there or meet up with or anything like that it'd be it'd be fun to meet up with anybody that wants to and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, looking forward to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's been fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But so that the week to answer your question was a little bit about that, not necessarily trip specific, but figuring out like how we're going to do that comfortably and it's been it's been it's been fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the kids are like they went to a karate class like one of those intro ones where their buddies invite them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and now my daughter who is going to sign up for jiu-jitsu because that's all about like scrawny kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's take on anybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I sister does it, but it looks so boring, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause it's all just a grapple.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just rolling the hump thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, and like so my 13-year-old daughter, she's like, there's more punching and karate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a beat, so I'm like, yeah, but, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so it's all good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they want to sign up for stuff and summers just starting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've got two weeks away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're both home sick today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, like Oliver, he got his, what are they called blockers?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The space blockers for like the step before, so that some people have before braces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he isn't just so like he's he's he's a drama king.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, like he's he's kind of pretty miserable That stuff, but it is really like it's hell for him It is really really sore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's having a really tough time and his heads just exploding and my daughter just last night She's been healthy for forever We just got discharged from the asthma clinic and then just today She's like last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's hacking up a storm puking like crazy and so I'm like all right both kids

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They both are joining for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to have to react to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They took the garbage compost recycling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now it's over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now it's over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you or did they actually sign up for karate or just the intro thing with it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to figure it out because we're still trying to get away with the single car family bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Either that or we're going to buy like a $1,000 vehicle and hope it lasts for the year and then move on and buy another $1,000 vehicle the next year when you know in the next one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to figure something out, but transit sucks in our city, so we got to figure out what's convenient for transit outside of school hours for something that we signed them up for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, did I ever tell you about the when we tried to get Ethan into karate?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's now sounds familiar, but I don't remember the series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he was probably like 10 nine or 10.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, which that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, please.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to see some parts of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The harmony of the gospels.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would do want to hear about Ethan karate, but let that back up though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, when you when you look through when you're reading the gospels, you want to know what happened in not even the camera.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No kidding, but it has the paraphrase version and then it has the individual versions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh boy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also when you get to the parts where it's like Do you have a light that turns on when it sees your face?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because that camera turned on it or just my monitor was your monitor flickered like crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to blame my wife for everything itself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then you know, you get to the bottom and it's like, oh, there's three gospels that touch on this story and it's this cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's ancient.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This thing's ancient.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it actually, it's from like they have the King James version.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think in this case, I would actually read voice of the ocean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so shiny though, you know, oh, there we go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The harmony of the gospel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, we took him to a karate and he cried because they yell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we still laugh about that with him because we tried and they do too much yelling and

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[SPEAKER_01]: When my kids went, there was, like, so they had some example, because it's because of trying to introduce people and trying to turn up and all this kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have somebody come around and so your kids are enjoying it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we're here's the payment plans in Hello.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they had, so they had these kids, like, three kids lined up at the front that were the examples for everyone else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, like, the girl in the middle, no joke, she's like, seven, maybe eight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Intense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Intense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, like, doing everything perfect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Perfect and she ended up getting paired up with my daughter for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you should have heard Violet would choose come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She wanted to watch like some Kung Fu Panda.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was ready to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I haven't, like, eat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still picture him as like, tiny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, sometimes I picture him as 12, and sometimes I picture him as a teenager, but he's like 40 now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, not so eight, but yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but like, I, you've definitely older.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd love to just like sit down for one day when everybody's just hanging out and just ask him what life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, he's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have everybody's awesome health wise, which is super good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, did you finish your week?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, my, my, uh, I finished the first book of dungeon crawler Carl.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think started the second book already?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love good for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love good for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm, uh, I'm enjoying the second book.

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[SPEAKER_00]: However, I don't like hardcover books.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, and you can only buy them in hardcover except the first one because they're slowly releasing them into soft cover.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was trying to check with the lady and she's checking online and I'm like, I'm not going to wait that long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For to come on softcover is not fun to read when I'm in bed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, dangerous to not fun to read ever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I like to just like have my hands where I want to have my hands and they typically are like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, crossing each other on the back side of the book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was actually one thing I hated about the.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when I was reading Terry Brooks, I was walking my dog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This bad boy just fits right in my pocket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it just, like, it's the nice dimensions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It can kind of squeak in, but it's all good, and then you get cargo pants, and it's like, okay, awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It fits right in and then I get like I start reading the expanse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I'm like a few guys, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got places to go and people to see it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This needs to be comfortable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need to get a backpack to carry this book around with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I was actually making me longer to read the expanse because I didn't take it anywhere with me because it was too clunky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was looking at the books because I wanted to buy the uh um the second one and

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how many there are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to say they're what I saw it look like six maybe six or seven.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe there's more but they get way bigger with each each one to the point they were the last one that they had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not kidding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like two inches and it's hard cover I'm like what the freaking Lord of the Rings crap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So well, I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't do it by the medically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We can't hang it whole book for that long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a safe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember was it Krip when one of the leagues came out that we're talking years ago But he took a picture of himself and like a wrist brace because of all the clicking in path one, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, back when it was really bad and I mean whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's his build too, but you know the wrist braces like okay

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[SPEAKER_00]: something to like protect my face because I tend to read, you know, like, I'm laying down and okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, the first book was so fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really, really enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The second one's been fun so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love how it just continues.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, actually literally just continues.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's not like prologue or like, hey, here's what you need to remember, the first chapter is just it ends off exactly where the last chapter of the previous book was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, so except that what was really cool is the nice mug.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They do like this little epilogue thing at the end of the first book and now you get to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a backstory to some of the other characters that have been part of the dungeon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that story only carries on apparently at the end of each book.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you only love that stuff so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I remember when reading the never-ending story years and years and years ago, I barely even remember the story now, except that we watched the original movie recently, but, you know, it's never the same, but I remember like a side character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they'd be like, well, this story continues at another day, another time I would like, no!

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and then another one then that happens again, and then that happens again, and I love that There's so many stories where there's like those sub-store and so good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I Would be like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's some characters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like the story itself, but in Take a time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am taking my time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know what it's called

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[SPEAKER_01]: The first law series by Joe Abercrabby, he has letters that happen at the beginning of the thing, and then so does, like I think brand Sanderson does that as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like either of their stories unfortunately, but I like the idea that there's something else going on that's teasing you at the same time, whether it's the beginning and beginning a chapter, send a book, say, I enjoyed that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, shout.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really enjoyed the first book.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love the whole story telling for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Other than that, yeah, I played Path of Exile.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I worked, kids are all good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Got my freakin' internet fix, hopefully.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now we'll see what happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm at 36% upload, not 99, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we weren't 4K last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just thinking about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We tried to, and it didn't, in my- I don't know, I don't know, I asked Riverside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't actually know, but I remember last week it didn't say 4K.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not that it makes much difference, but now it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You commented on the mug.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is, oh, why are you yellow?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you moving?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know the camera.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's all coincidence when I wake up in the morning, I grab my shirt and whatever shirt I grab that's what I'm wearing and then I grab the next hat because I have like eight hats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I grab the next hat that would match the shirt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a great match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you're like me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, don't run away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so anyway, it's like the exalted orb, but with the exalted orb, and then just by chance, also I do the same thing with mugs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the forever exalt mug.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like it's a league launch Daniel, like this is all my favorite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love you, GG, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then it got me thinking like, I can't get an exalted orb mug.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where on earth is the merch?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have any, but you could custom make one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wouldn't be for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shop packs micro transactions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you're gonna find it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was talk of them doing that I remember there was a website.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was on jinx or something or maybe they finished with Jay had jinx I don't know if that's like it's not even on their website.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, I was like I was thinking about that As I was coming downstairs, I've and I forgot about it until we started talking but I'm like man The combo and all by chance to get my other cats it could have been my home Depot one It could have been my mom life one, but no you'll save up for those extra con ones

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[SPEAKER_00]: You bet you want to digest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, but get your video that will be lots there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Well, I was thinking about cuz I got a regular ticket But VIP gets very so expensive Holy crap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're all the difference like the old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah VIP.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like bring my family to New Zealand Yeah, or get a VIP back I didn't do VIP when we went or the first one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just did the regular tickets

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember you and Eve talking about like the mad rush, you know what I mean like what boxing day used to be like before the internet and people like sleep and over at like staples and and best buy and future shop and all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I remember you describing the merch shop line up like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, by the time you guys got in because the VIP gets access first and then by the time the regular line ups loud and it's like we never had any chickens just cleaning up the grain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's only good enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, like we would always get in it, it was insanely stocked because I think I remember actually after the first XLCon then they started selling stuff because they just had so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember there being a VIP.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember there was a lot of merch like mystery bags right after that was cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, anyway, I remember looking forward to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we'll create a channel in that for the some that are going from wherever you are in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hook something up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I also played a lot of Path of Excel this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, not as much as I wanted to, which isn't something that I've said much in about last two years, but the spite the fact that everything that I've been looking forward to trying out in the beta still hasn't really happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been very excited to play and looking forward to it and both of my build ideas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, just end up working well, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know how like the game's not balanced.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not all the skills are working great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like we saw tons of patches this past week where it's all about mouse balance and great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously most of it's like league monster balance, but there's other things in there as well for the core game, but it's very, and we know that this mechanics going core.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So any,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Balancing they're doing with monsters now with this league mechanic is technically core balancing anyway, but So despite the fact that nothing's really changed for me in terms of what interests me A lot of the builds that I've tried in the past I had to try and make work just because they weren't Balanced they will be eventually like I know that statistically with how I've invested in those builds in the past

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[SPEAKER_01]: It should be pretty good, not like epic or anything, but like they should be able to take me through whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was nice that my idea is that the end of this past league at the end of 4.0 or 0.4.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then as it transitioned into 0.5 both of my ideas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: worked really well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think one of my favorite things was the wiki still out of date, not a criticism, not a criticism.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like volatile.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To be part of the wiki environment, you know, and trying to keep it up to date with all the changes that are happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was awesome looking in-game for my answers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, a big part of my questions had to do with what other ascendancies provided and the game does not provide that information, which is very disappointing, but it was outside of that, a lot of fun to get the definitions, try things out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this isn't like nothing supported in POB, a lot of their math is wrong when it comes to like revivorates for minions and all this kind of stuff, and that's great for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in like POV chats not seeing POV show up every two seconds in conversation, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just nice hearing people talk about the game and the mechanics and so to me this was one of my favorite path of Excel weeks I've ever had in my life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though the beta still hasn't really touched on the stuff I'm excited for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I want to hear about your week because you've had you've had quite the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about first off what happened this week in POE and then get into our weeks because then there's always we'll have faded mean you care because I don't care about any of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't want to talk though at the moment because all I hear is how we this week in POE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, alright, past one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was an excellent path one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they announced this week that path one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: 329 is going to launch on July 24th and July 16th eight days earlier is the live stream.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is telling to me, though, because they were delayed, right, with path to quite a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After they finished saying, you know, we're only going to release what's ready.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This and that study delayed and whatever they do their thing, right, but, you know, they've been inconsistent with what they've said they were going to do then with what happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care, but that's where Path 2 has been.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now, like, right after Path 2 comes out, we're talking like, what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Two weeks?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Has it been two weeks?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is our second year week, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, this is Path 1's date.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And one week ahead of, we're confident one week ahead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is all you're going to get, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, and I like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they said, we even have, uh, we're hosting a special event, so keep an eye out for more details on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like, it's just like, yeah, this is it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what we're going to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know, it's kind of telling like, because a lot of what they do in path 1 and 2 right now are intertwined, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's got to be something that they're really, my guess is they're excited for something to add to path 2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they've had their last big patch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The next big patch for path 2, if everything goes according to plan is the official launch and what we assume is going to be December, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: 1.0.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have, what is this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You ought to be october.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll bet you there's another POE when we can october.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have July, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then three, maybe a squeeze in because they're supposed to do every four months, but maybe a squeeze in other one and three months if you're trying another idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But to me, whatever, because they're not going to have another POE two one, because we know that they won't waste the end of the year, so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is either the last POE one league or unless a squeeze one in the second last POE one league I think there's something that not ever figure out just before POE two yeah yeah before the official launch POE two so I think it's a little it seems like it's going to be something path to related that they're going to be like okay yes the community like this this worked let's let's throw it in

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I see it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there somebody with a weed eater?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it the one that's poisoning your plants?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think there will be one to over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who cares?

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[SPEAKER_00]: People are going to be fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to hear noise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: With knowing that they're not going to come up with Pewey to it makes sense, it's really tight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's quick for them to have come up with this announcement already.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I would imagine then we'll see a July and probably Octoberish, maybe 3.3 is some sort of lead into the official release of Pewey to if they're still planning to do that for the end of the series, which I assume that they are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But still that's like a month and 12 days away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a month and a half away that they're like we got our day already.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's yeah, it's like the complete opposite of what we just had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so again, none of this is criticism.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like somebody knows what's going on and there's a reason that they're so like, yep, yep, yep, there's an interview is this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you watch that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, did you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really have the time for interviews anymore, like I love it, but I think we're at a stage now where we can just ask AI to summarize it for us and we'll get, we might miss some details, but we'll get the just of everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And at the end of the day, the game, if it's about Path of Exile 2, the game's so volatile right now that anything that they hope to do want to do or anything like that, there was a comment that I didn't write down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I even glad I remembered it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... good stuff should see the streets of Vancouver busy business transit windows are saw the commuting man windows are uh... it's already on oh okay go get a place to get like yeah yep team yeah that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and a lot of our jerseys internationally are black these days, despite the fact that our flag is white and red, but that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: State of a black maple leaf probably not in a good state anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, what were you talking about?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tons of hot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tons of hot fixes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell me about your character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're first one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you go back and forth?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You and I made one after I had two characters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have two characters now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have two characters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me about one of my character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can just decide between them, but I love them both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So character number one's the one that I've previously discussed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the Smith of Kitaba.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm using shield skills.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's all based on the local armor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The damage of these skills is based on the local armor of my shield.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like it, except that I'm dependent like how I progress is dependent on my loot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's sometimes after I level all go to a merchant and they don't even have strength shields.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They'll have mixed shields, but I'm just looking for flat armor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not like I'm not going to look for a mixed shield.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to spend my investment on an armor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, like I'm sure there are some times where I could roll something, but I'm like, that's not what I'm going to risk my currency on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and so in that character, just with that character, I'm really not getting any strengths.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know it's just how it rolls, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like you play a skeleton build and you're not getting a rattling scepter ever, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then you play the Smith or the whatever the

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[SPEAKER_01]: the warrior and your all-usies rallying centers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I know it's a star in G, but I'm not getting good shields every now and then I get a good shield and it's like armor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, uh, I get a finally get like a rare strength shield and it's like really weak.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's it's not good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't roll any armor at all kind of thing and I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: My one from level five still stronger than this one, so you're still like having a rough time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's slower than it should be, but that's also how the game works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't like being dependent on gear when, for damage, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it spells, you don't really need the gear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's bonus coin, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can progress just with the tree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's strong enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Same thing with minions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the tree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where a lot of your stuff comes from at the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, but that's not the case, no matter how much melee investment you put on to the tree, it's highly dependent on your gear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, that can be frustrating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In my case, maybe it's just like a 1 in a million chance, but I'm just not getting strength shields to draw.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That being said, it's a phenomenal bill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're really like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all based on, I'm using a resonate shield, I think, as a skill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: or shield charge and listening to your suggestion I actually have the same supports for both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just doing this mythic ataba.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have the Marshall weapon as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I am caring about my, I am caring about my melee weapons damage, but only secondarily because I have the secondarily, because I have the companion in this mythic ataba tree that copies my melee weapon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But with my shield skills, the two shield skills, I'm focusing on living lightning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I have lightning at two, and then living lightning, and living lightning, you know what it is?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just where those minions come out after you've dealt lightning damage for yourself, and I really like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They scale off of strength, which is nice, and then the martial weapon also scales, and not the martial weapon, the manifest weapon scales off of strength as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So all I'm doing is focusing on armor, things that benefit from armor, like elemental damage using armor, chaos damage with armor, that kind of thing, or chaos resistance with armor, and then just strength.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I also have in that area of the tree, there's also a lot of clusters that have reducing

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[SPEAKER_01]: The slow potency against me, so I have 100% slow resist, eventually, once that trees off-lash do it as well, so I really like where it's going, and it's actually progressing really well for having a really crappy shield, but I should have that shield as like 15 levels lower than my character level, like I really should have something better, but nothing's showing up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I check vendors all the time, it's not showing up on the ground, so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just luck on the draw.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's really fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's slow, of course, because of what I said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like I'm not dying, like all the enemies that drive me nuts, the fights that I hate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And unfortunately, there's just as many of those as fights that I love.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm easily, easily killing them, my first try.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you were born last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we made new ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is there, but I've seen you like swap between them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what happens in brain to decide which one you're gonna play versus what.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But is it still boring?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So part of it's kind of like just seeing where things are at with the state of the game, how strong my new build is versus my old build, maybe, you know, my builds not slow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like it's slow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've actually gotten my new character that we made together to the same part of the campaign as the other one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so now what I'm doing is I'm just swapping each zone, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll do the same zone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll do it as this character

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[SPEAKER_01]: at just to see where it's at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that it is kind of fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but also because then when I get to the boss, like there's no modifiers on these, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the cancer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when I get to the boss, it's the same experience and then I'm like, okay, let's see how this goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that is a lot of fun because I'm seeing both the ease of survivability versus the damage and which ones actually

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so my other build is also like a fallen in love with living lightning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of what I've always looked for in Path of Exile 1 as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or it's like basically living lightning is some inventasms.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You do damage day show up in a way it go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just they have a really short.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't technically have a short duration.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's 30 seconds, but they hit three times and then they're gone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a unique element there because some in phantasm's will stay up all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you could have them gain buffs and it'd be fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But living lightning, for example, you can't link rage to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even with zombies you can't because it rages based on the individual but even with living lightning they go one two three and they're gone and so eventually you have eight living lightning minions kicking around and One of the frustrating things is because this hasn't really been a focus of the beta so far is There's almost no supports for me to use so I'm using ball lightning for a lot of good reasons and then living lightning

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's almost no supports that I can use if I want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like I can't for what's it So ball lightning is linked to living lightning because living it doesn't support So now I have lightning atonement right to give me 25% extra damage on top of what they're already doing

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, half?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, shoot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's nothing that really combines well because I'm spell versus attack, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Living lightning does attacks, but living lightning doesn't say it's a projectile attack and it doesn't say that it's a melee attack.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can only use things you can't use things that save for melee attacks or projectiles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can only use them for generic hits.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, living lightning does have physical damage converted to lightning, so I can use half, but the game doesn't let you focus on support damage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: skills.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, heft isn't available for ball lightning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to go into the generic strength tab, look, and then there's sometimes where there's some skills where just won't let me do it because it doesn't have the proper tag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm like, no, no, no, this is for living lightning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not for ball lightning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I have to mention because I remember that being an issue in my point one with some with some so living lightning sometimes when I go to apply it it won't let me apply it I have to actually move it to a separate part of my inventory and then it'll let me move it in like there's some glitches with with allocating stuff and they'd lock it fixed in time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but anyway, that's what I'm doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Living, uh, so ball lightning has crazy shock chance, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like 350% chance of shock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the enemy's even though I have only 60% increased spell damage, just because of how the tree works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, the enemies are all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Always so far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what it's like in endgame, but have that 20% they take 20% increased damage because they're shocked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So all I do right now like my build is the new character yes my build is I hold down ball lightning that's my right trigger and then whenever I see that I have a power charge for I hit my zombie button so all I do is I hold right trigger dodge dodge dodge dodge oh look I have three power charges all hold down my power charge button or zombies for a few seconds

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, so I have the notable on the tree that whenever I use an infusion, I gain a power charge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How's it work?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can see I only have four skills listed here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So all my spirit except for the 30 that I use for cast on minion death is used up by skeletal warriors and it's all just minion instability, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I have revive on the tree so that they're going as fast as they can up, down, up, down, up, down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Every time they die,

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have essence harvest linked to them, so I get a whole bunch of mana coming back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they're already dealing a decent amount of damage anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's not a lot of notables or support gems that help.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a new quality.

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[SPEAKER_00]: some of the new lineage ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I remember reading some of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, get there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I'm only next for right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then also with one of the notables on the tree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also gained life on the tree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm no longer CI of next CI.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like it because they remember how I was excited that you don't have to invest in energy shield recharge rate anymore because it's not on the tree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's too slow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not going C.I.

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[SPEAKER_01]: it's ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need to fast energy shield.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She'll recharge rate, especially without something like wicked ward where every time I take a tiny bit of damage it stops but the recharge is really slow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, so I switched over to the lich, but So minions are always going off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now they ignite enemies when they do that

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I also am shocking enemies, right on cast on Man, I should have written all this down cast on minion deaths.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have snap

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[SPEAKER_01]: which consumes, sees the footage on your window, I just shirt maybe, oh there we go, okay it consumes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So snap, snap basically just consumes the shock or the elemental ailments from these things, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now ball lightning, as I'm just casting casting casting casting, now this is something I don't like about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All the mixing and matching they do with elements, it drives me nuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's actually very few things that really coincide well because of all the mixing and matching they do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: doesn't consume lightning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Reminance it consumes or infusions or whatever they're called, it consumes fire once.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm igniting because of minion instability all the time, and every time I cast ball lightning or snap goes off, I get a fire reminant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because of the ignite, I get a fire reminant, it consumes a fire reminant, and then when I cast ball lightning,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now I'm getting it all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Power charge is all the time I always have three and now I can get my empowered zombies any time I want and then casting damage taken is hurt cast on minion death is also doing frostbomb for elemental exposure and then I have elemental weakness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's kind of how it's going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just playing with the power charges and fuses, but I'm ignoring it all on screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just I'm dead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on camera.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kill it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're having a really really really bad day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so anyway, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's the build, I just cast ball lightning and hit the button, but the zombie button, but it keeps, uh, there's a lot of power charges going through and it's a heavy focus on energy shield and minion damage, and that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you talk on this day open long enough and I get power charges to replace them so I don't need to worry about survivability.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you talk about all the infusions and like the lightning consuming, the all the stuff I remember looking into that stuff, I just, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: my head spins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I played Expedition 33, there was one character, you unlock, where it's like, when you use this type of magic spell, it unlocks this little red power, your fire, and when you use fire, and I was like, I don't want to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just let me smash something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I honestly having to pay attention to power charges.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it's still tough like I don't care the screens busy when I'm fighting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's about where am I safe and where can I deal like okay, I'm safe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can deal the most damage that I can or I'm not now my build mostly revolves around just holding right trigger and then hitting dodge roll right and that's most of the build.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm I'm trying to stay alive and trying to be safe and I'm not really paying attention to where the infusions are on the ground or the remnants to trick up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just end up getting them, but I don't like the idea of focusing on that and one thing I don't like about the build, despite the fact that it's relatively easy is constantly checking to see if I have power charges for my empowered zombies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Empowered zombies are so incredibly strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are so strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but it's a pain in the butt to play with because that's a need like a need on power charge something like that would be great but like I tried zombies like minions don't have a spell tag like they used to right so you can't trigger them all right like you could on cast on minion dead and well it also says I think you like can't triggers I don't know I feel like you can't you can't you can't trigger the zombies and it's

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[SPEAKER_01]: Experience it's a powerful experience, but it's not fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm actually thinking of removing all the charges from the build anyway and just doing living lightning, which is crazy strong like if you say that strong I started off as the infernalist and it was

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[SPEAKER_01]: with the idea that I was going to be CI, and so I did the infernalist and I started off with that node where all your minions and allies are whatever they all contribute to flammability and magnitude and all that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, and I'm like, that's the sound strong, but Ignite is a one hit thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, there's got to be something that I'm missing about how these mechanics interact, but I wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's basically just that notable bringer of flames is all about just basically making sure that the enemy is already at a 100% stacked ready to be ignited on the next hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: it doesn't actually change the value or the the impact of the hit, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I have, is it a trial to move some minions?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's the only one on the branch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm going through an enemies are always ignited and that's fine, but I could just get the hound and that does the exact same thing, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it just doesn't like, I couldn't think of a reason why that would matter unless I have this one big melee hit that I'm

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not really strong for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, sure, the empowered zombies would do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then there was also the idea if I'm going see, come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I was going see, I just tell you every time it does that, how I'm in my brain going is somebody's behind the camera and search the false leap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then who would catch you now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There you are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, but if I went CI that first notable on the reserve life section, you know how there's that first section where it says physical damage, what is it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Physical damage counts as chaos, 20% chaos damage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, first you like being count as fire damage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the chaos damage one, that's a really sucky one to have early on because chaos is just really hard to find.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you could luck out, but you're not going to be comfortable

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that one I'm not comfortable taking right away, but if I'm going CI, that's just 0.20% reduced physical damage reduction because of immune decay, I'll stay on my right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was the idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'll go with the infernal hand and figure something out, but then nothing else would really work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then after I decided not to go CI, that wasn't as powerful anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, I'd get a lot more ES and spirit if I sacrificed 50% of my life, but I wasn't really comfortable with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you can still do that as a hybrid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to be C.I.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, but then I decided to go with the quality of life on the Lich side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I respect and I did the, and I hate the negatives that come with these keystones and ascendancies is so frustrating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I chose to go unholy might and see what the 5% like losing 5% of my maximum mana second would do for me early on that would be rough It was it was but I have essence harvest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which is nice But then also for my second ascendancy because I respect on my second ascendancy

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I chose the one where I have, I do take 10% of damage, 10% of my damage by passes by energy shield, which is so bloody annoying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I get crazy mana region.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now I have zero mana problems, and I know my mana is just going to get more expensive, but it's I'm set.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's just make more sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The next one I'm going to get is the one where my life doesn't change if I have Yes, I wish that was you don't lose life while you have yes because if I if my yes starts and I'm at half life I can't heal

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hate that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is sort of useful for some stuff though, because when you want to have like low life or when you want to be under, I remember when I was doing that with mine, you'd purposely get yourself to low life and then it is annoying to have to always live and just see that the fact that your life is sitting at 25% instead of full, but it was quite strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's where I'm at, but it's amazing, like, just ball lightning, living lightning, and lightning atonement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I know joke, I could just do that the whole game, like it's nice and strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to just unlock the levels for support.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just upgraded living lightning to level two where I can get eight of them now, like I really don't need anything else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm actually considering dropping the DPS, the free, it's basically free DPS with the zombies,

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[SPEAKER_01]: my eight living lightings are out with just one ball lightning cast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need to constantly cast it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so what else am I going to do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can just hit a free button and there's some empowered zombies running around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do find that the times that I do take chunks of damage, it's because I didn't see the chunks of damage coming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's still a lot of stupid stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like whirlwinds are way too big and like you can get, you know, there's still some dumb stuff

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for your safety.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, his life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I tell you how busy it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a nice faster perfect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, man Justin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a man, but Where were we?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jamir Quay that oh, yeah, but I'm still finding most of the time when it's my fault that I'm taking damage is because I'm checking out my power charge situation Or I'm trying to cast zombies zombies are still in a weird state like there's nothing in the game that explains how fast you can cast them

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[SPEAKER_01]: because they're not a spell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Caspi doesn't impact that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but they're not in the tactic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing that changes how fast it's just a static.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But sometimes when I hold the button down, it's like, what about skills?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then other times it's like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: there's like skills bead right and yeah I'm sure what that does yeah but it is weird that there's no other tag for it there's nothing else that I can focus on that's like that that there's like this omission that's there but it is inconsistent sometimes I can get all three off really fast and sometimes it's super slow but I don't have any debuffs on me at the time so

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is a big inconsistency there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wrote about it, but like over a year ago, so who knows if that stuff just gets dismissed because they weren't focusing on it at the time or if they're capable of going bad I don't know how to do it, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: living lightning, minion instability with some three zombies and that's eventually going to be 300% yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're at four on both characters on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the damage is crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I I send it for the second time, the chimera just melted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it didn't do anything annoying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't even like

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[SPEAKER_01]: come on guy wake up it uh yeah it was just it's been a really really good oh man who wants to look at my garage oh guys want to look at my garage so anyway that was long um i hope the guy's satisfied with his lawn next door and that's where i'm at but then now so now you know i do this with one character now i go and do it with the other character and

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoy the difference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the other characters really slow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm really looking, I'm looking for shields for the other character than I huckerman stash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm like I just kind of started that process because just last night I got to the same stage where the shield character was where the prisoner is in in the islands.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's so annoying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I forgot how quickly you have to do the

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I've ever had an issue, is it really quick?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can't zone out because I got the prisoner down to the last ballista one and I wasn't paying attention.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just like, oh, he's just got a quarter of life left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me just play my violin until he's dead and he's full.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they do put a least thing out there on the screen that says use the ballista now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I didn't know that we needed restarting the whole fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did it actually is I would have thought you've got full health and I'm like I'm at a man of flasks I hope that I love that I can't restart the fight Like I was like pacing this I saw okay quarter life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can use my last man of flasks go go go go go

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when I did it with the other character, I'm like, oh, he has a quarter life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did the Ballista.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's an Insta Kill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was letting my kids watch that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where the Ballista goes straight through the guy's head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, flops back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, well, I guess I did buy the game for my son, but like, but it was fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like any of the ascendancies at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing I'm disappointed with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there were some commenting telling you like there were some options within some of the other ones, but they're not well, I looked at them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't played with any of them, but that they're not play styles that interest me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I have a difficult time not difficult, but I'm the skill itself has to really interest me for me to be the ascendancy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: where are that skill on locks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those promo beast things whatever's going on, I've seen videos and clips, it looks fun, but it also looks chaosy.

49:50.276 --> 49:54.662
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's also not my build, like, okay, here are the skills you're going to use now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, I mean, like I feel like every build's kind of the same when you have that much there for this, like that's not maybe you're there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're not like buffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not like cool ways to change what skill you're using.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's these are your skills.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so on, if those skills aren't the most appealing, like I don't feel like I'm making a unique build when I go to an ascendancy and all my skills are there, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's all of them though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, yeah, there's some primary ones, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what people are doing with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure enough tension, but sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not a criticism to anybody that's doing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not, that's probably not the way that it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just how I feel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like when I'm choosing between stuff, I see buffs, buffs, buffs, buffs, buffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but I can do anything I want with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas, that feel really funneled with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, I'm sure that there are a lot of fun, especially the whist one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like it's just cause it almost like the living lightning idea where they're just up all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll probably give it a shot one day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've never done, I haven't done evasion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, like that kind of defense for a long, long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it'd be kind of cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I also like those are my favorite, like the nice form fitting armor pieces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are my favorite looking ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So probably give it a shot one day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just not clicking for me right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I didn't have the guts to do my build with Smithicataba.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could do the build that I'm doing with Smithicutava.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But no joke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same thing that I was talking about two years ago, that extra 104% minion damage that you get immediately in the starting thing, like that's a lot of lettuce.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just can't, I can't, like the difference that I go from like 364% increased minion damage on the tree to like 220 something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, when I see those numbers, I'm just like, oh, it makes the choice so difficult.

51:48.426 --> 51:54.013
[SPEAKER_01]: And especially because then, as a minion player and doing curses, I'm not touching the blood major.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything costing life?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not a chance, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because all the remnants are based on me doing damage and doing hits.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not my minions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if it was ally based as well then maybe?

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[SPEAKER_01]: but it's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then all of a sudden out of all these sentences that exist, I'm funneled into two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the infernalist just doesn't make a lot of sense with a lot of the ideas that I have.

52:17.399 --> 52:19.581
[SPEAKER_00]: So all of a sudden I'm like, oh, where's the loop?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, infernalist is fun though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a boatload of extra spirit, boatload of extra years.

52:25.587 --> 52:31.909
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and the thing that I like about the spirit and the S1 is just the better your gear is the more you get from it.

52:31.929 --> 52:33.510
[SPEAKER_01]: It was no, it's not a flat amount.

52:34.230 --> 52:37.551
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the shaman is always interested me because I like that.

52:37.571 --> 52:40.812
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I find charms kind of ridiculous right now.

52:41.172 --> 52:45.814
[SPEAKER_01]: You get them for like the first two hits and then like you can't really rely on them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just bonus points.

52:46.774 --> 52:49.295
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why ones are good, but the base one's me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But to get 120 spirit, if you just choose not to equip any charms, like that's awesome, right?

52:56.157 --> 52:59.178
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they have the bonded modifiers, which is cool.

52:59.358 --> 53:02.479
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of them could scroll over a build because you're not picking the modifier, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to discover it after you put it on, but I still really like that idea.

53:07.341 --> 53:13.363
[SPEAKER_01]: And I love the idea of adaptability, but I don't like that.

53:14.687 --> 53:19.291
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to get hit three times to have the strongest adaptability.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You only get 10% reduced damage on your first hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then your second hit, then your third hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now you're at the 40%.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you're more vulnerable at the beginning and then you get to keep it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, tell me about you.

53:38.867 --> 53:43.152
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we after after Dark decided it was like, yeah, let's make new characters.

53:43.352 --> 53:45.975
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think you were going to already some like auto in you, hopefully.

53:46.055 --> 53:48.657
[SPEAKER_00]: So we made new characters after our last week.

53:49.530 --> 53:54.892
[SPEAKER_00]: I have my original one that was a lot of fun, but I really wanted to try mercenary.

53:55.653 --> 53:58.994
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to do the gym, Legionnaire one, but I just didn't like it.

53:59.074 --> 54:03.916
[SPEAKER_00]: The more I looked at some of the ones that had, because I only wanted it for those extra quality bonuses.

54:04.536 --> 54:07.958
[SPEAKER_00]: And the more I looked at some of them, I was like, to really want to ascend just for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I probably would be fun, but I just didn't understand it well enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, we started, I went mercenary, just shooting crossbows, which was,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome, because I use a bunch of uniques to make it faster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we flew through one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I elated act one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we went through pretty quickly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm, and it was actually like that for the rest of the campaign.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I finished the campaign.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think my, uh, mercenary is now 93.

54:34.407 --> 54:40.050
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I went with witch hunter because we had talked about this and after Dark, I was looking at the source report.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, right.

54:41.371 --> 54:45.294
[SPEAKER_00]: I love, I, I, I, I, it might be weirdly enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My favorite character I played this witch hunter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really fun because it feels like you're firing a shotgun, like as you're playing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The damage is quite good, and sorcery ward was what I wanted to like understand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just thought it was so cool, this idea that you were sort of like giving up part of your armor and yes for this shield, but as shield, the blocks everything, except de-gen,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, it's fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think when I'm playing right now, I think I have between eight and nine thousand sorcery award on top of I only have maybe 1900 health.

55:27.594 --> 55:36.158
[SPEAKER_00]: But still with that, I'm still sitting at like 70% evasion, I think I'm at, I can't roll up percent of deflection, but that's pretty high too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel tanky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's not it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder what that sound was.

55:42.743 --> 55:44.424
[SPEAKER_01]: My chair is squeaking in a here in the headphones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, can't rock anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, it's fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, yeah, I don't know why.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just feels fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got all the way to the end of the campaign, not really knowing what to do besides the fact that I wanted to do this sorcery ward and try it out, which was not a great idea, probably as I ascended, I probably could have picked some better options for ascending.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was fun and then once I eventually got towards endgame and tried to figure out what I wanted to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I know what I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I ascended the first time and then I was like, well, I'm not doing this anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Screw this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got to, I think level 45 or something and then I just made sure I had whatever I threw on some gear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had enough life like 8 or 900 of the health.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I just paid to have a carry cost me two devines.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the fourth one, so you just instantly have all four or sentences done, and you did that level four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lowered you something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just made sure I had enough health because there's no restriction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can just, I like that, yeah, so that was fun because then I got to after my first ascension, which I was like, I am not doing this anymore, um, yeah, I got all four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that thing, that kind of sucks because I, I just don't like ascending.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's the ascension process.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though I can do it, I can do, I can handle it, I know how to make, I know how to make second one easier, I know, I don't like trials at all for that for it, but I know I can get

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[SPEAKER_00]: and hope that nothing goes me right wrong versus I could just give this guy two designs I pop into a portal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now I have all four done and I never have to go back into that place unless I choose to, it I agree it's it's so much of a mechanic you don't like I think it's greatly hard to because there's people who farm it and that's awesome, but it's weird that it is the thing behind your character I can't remember you take your character exactly yeah I mean it should honestly just make it like you want like okay you get your token of whatever it is and

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[SPEAKER_01]: it's a boss fight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just make it difficult.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm boss fight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even I don't know map no nothing like make it like an epic boss fight that I can do at level 20 or whenever my first one comes in then at level 30 something what I don't know whatever the levels are but like it doesn't need to be this thing that takes me hours no because what happens when I don't do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to do it again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to actually play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to progress the campaign.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not here for hours being like, oh, shoot, man.

58:22.381 --> 58:25.044
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I know my second run's going to be a little bit better.

58:25.164 --> 58:28.548
[SPEAKER_01]: Or I hope I get better mods in the trial of carousdarn shoot.

58:28.909 --> 58:30.370
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're just doing it over again.

58:30.430 --> 58:33.033
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's just all it is is annoying and tedious.

58:33.233 --> 58:34.715
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, even if they made it something.

58:34.735 --> 58:34.895
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,

58:36.336 --> 58:39.819
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying that's the answer, but that's what I would like just yeah, good boss.

58:40.199 --> 58:42.301
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a dirty confident.

58:42.801 --> 58:47.305
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty confident that this is gonna be what it is because they've held on to it It's just not fun and for me.

58:47.325 --> 58:50.387
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like well, I am way better off especially a second character.

58:50.407 --> 58:55.011
[SPEAKER_00]: I've already got currency So I was like I will easily give up two divine's to never go in that place.

58:55.071 --> 58:57.913
[SPEAKER_00]: So I got my they got a change in man

58:58.603 --> 58:59.363
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they're going to.

58:59.383 --> 59:01.684
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going to get the total thing for the third one.

59:01.724 --> 59:02.844
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's going to be it.

59:03.044 --> 59:15.727
[SPEAKER_00]: I wish it wasn't that because it's just too much tying it into content and a type of plane in ARPG that doesn't, you know, like, I was playing last e-book and last e-book when you ascend.

59:17.408 --> 59:18.648
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just kind of part of the quest.

59:19.548 --> 59:24.493
[SPEAKER_00]: and you eventually just follow that quest line through and then you talk to the dude and he's like, all right, which mastery do you want to pick?

59:24.914 --> 59:28.938
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really like that, like I want something like some sort of challenge that got me to that point.

59:28.958 --> 59:29.098
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

59:29.779 --> 59:30.960
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't build on her.

59:30.980 --> 59:37.567
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, yes, and I should be able to use a build and not a selection that I make could potentially be starting over.

59:38.853 --> 59:51.722
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, some of those options in second art terrible, some of the options in trial accounts, if you want to make that stuff for like, when people farm second modules like MPOE1, people love to do certain stuff, let them play it.

59:52.062 --> 59:56.566
[SPEAKER_00]: But like, to tie it into the ascendancies, just whatever, in the end it was what it is.

59:56.606 --> 59:57.967
[SPEAKER_00]: I just was like, I'll pay the two designs.

59:58.047 --> 59:58.647
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll get it done.

59:59.368 --> 01:00:04.831
[SPEAKER_00]: We also flew fall the time all in chat, 2121, who's always doing carries for people.

01:00:05.812 --> 01:00:08.915
[SPEAKER_00]: which is super kind of him, but yeah, I just was like, nah, I'm not going to deal with this.

01:00:08.936 --> 01:00:18.206
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's funny because even the trials and path one were crazy and knowing because of how you got, nobody ever complains about a Zaro.

01:00:18.466 --> 01:00:19.327
[SPEAKER_01]: No, Zaro didn't change your build.

01:00:24.746 --> 01:00:25.086
[SPEAKER_01]: at all.

01:00:25.146 --> 01:00:27.707
[SPEAKER_01]: There was no modifiers along the way that changed your build.

01:00:27.747 --> 01:00:31.228
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just all the dumb traps and all the dumb wandering that you had to do.

01:00:31.828 --> 01:00:37.229
[SPEAKER_01]: And the thing that the big complaint there was, that's not the rest of the game.

01:00:37.249 --> 01:00:38.590
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not why anybody plays.

01:00:38.630 --> 01:00:42.951
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just this dumb stuff that interrupts the experience that I signed up to play.

01:00:43.651 --> 01:00:46.232
[SPEAKER_01]: And even there, all it was was traps.

01:00:46.612 --> 01:00:48.572
[SPEAKER_01]: But you could still fight in 15 minutes.

01:00:49.092 --> 01:00:49.832
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, but it was

01:00:52.614 --> 01:00:57.521
[SPEAKER_01]: they add something else that isn't in the entire game and they just like quadruple down on it.

01:00:58.503 --> 01:01:06.535
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not just traps, it's all the, like, the idea of 2nd of 4th floors of 2nd of.

01:01:07.714 --> 01:01:08.634
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even playing the game.

01:01:08.954 --> 01:01:12.235
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I go outside and I'm sitting on the grass of my dog, not a chance.

01:01:12.695 --> 01:01:17.977
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I did a send and then which all after that made it so much fun.

01:01:18.077 --> 01:01:20.157
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I was trying to figure out, like, I was in an end game.

01:01:20.298 --> 01:01:26.239
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd gotten to mapping and I hadn't really figured out exactly what to do with the character.

01:01:26.279 --> 01:01:35.622
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I do struggle a little bit because for some reason, I don't know if it's a controller thing or what, but when I would go into the skill selection spot for the mercenary,

01:01:36.562 --> 01:01:47.412
[SPEAKER_00]: I would see like two versions of almost every skill, and I couldn't figure out, I was really hard to understand the skill tree at all when I was trying to select what skills to use.

01:01:48.433 --> 01:01:52.237
[SPEAKER_00]: And one thing that always bothered me with monk was that monk's very calm boy.

01:01:52.897 --> 01:01:58.741
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, when you start reading through some of the mercenary skills, you're like, oh boy, like there's a bomb combo we do.

01:01:59.121 --> 01:02:08.887
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like because you're talking about loading and how you're reloading and then this type of damage is exploding or dealing damage to that other one or are you tossing grenades?

01:02:09.567 --> 01:02:12.189
[SPEAKER_00]: So I did do some reading, but then I went online and I haven't.

01:02:13.530 --> 01:02:15.011
[SPEAKER_00]: There is this guy that I watched.

01:02:15.611 --> 01:02:17.152
[SPEAKER_01]: It does not like my shirt.

01:02:18.132 --> 01:02:19.453
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it really likes your shirt.

01:02:20.394 --> 01:02:21.895
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, it's actually not adjusting.

01:02:22.527 --> 01:02:24.110
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, sweet, crotch-shot.

01:02:25.893 --> 01:02:27.175
[SPEAKER_00]: I found this guy named Woolly.

01:02:28.758 --> 01:02:29.780
[SPEAKER_00]: I helped out him saying that, right?

01:02:29.860 --> 01:02:30.841
[SPEAKER_00]: Woolly, Woolly.

01:02:32.023 --> 01:02:34.848
[SPEAKER_00]: And I watched his video on the witch hunter.

01:02:35.940 --> 01:02:37.761
[SPEAKER_00]: really well done, super nice guy.

01:02:38.041 --> 01:02:40.642
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I started playing with some of his ideas.

01:02:40.702 --> 01:02:46.005
[SPEAKER_00]: But he also helped me really understand how the sorcery ward was working, which was cool.

01:02:46.065 --> 01:02:55.149
[SPEAKER_00]: So after I looked into what he was doing and then watched his little thing about it, it helped me adjust how I was playing the build and what damage I was using.

01:02:55.269 --> 01:02:57.050
[SPEAKER_00]: And it has been so much fun.

01:02:57.550 --> 01:02:58.210
[SPEAKER_00]: So much fun.

01:02:58.630 --> 01:03:01.872
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Pui2 is a blast right now.

01:03:02.032 --> 01:03:06.117
[SPEAKER_00]: I am having good, like the end game my Atlas is now complete.

01:03:07.318 --> 01:03:10.302
[SPEAKER_00]: So I have all 300 and whatever it is, 35 points.

01:03:11.623 --> 01:03:14.326
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm done the Abyss side, I'm done the ritual side.

01:03:14.346 --> 01:03:17.270
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't even touched the Val Temple side.

01:03:18.807 --> 01:03:23.850
[SPEAKER_00]: And I haven't touched a lear because I just don't like, I haven't like, blear, I'm delirium was too hard.

01:03:24.430 --> 01:03:25.111
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, good time.

01:03:25.131 --> 01:03:26.592
[SPEAKER_00]: I know I've got to just nerfed it all.

01:03:26.612 --> 01:03:28.213
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was, it wasn't fun.

01:03:28.373 --> 01:03:30.914
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, what am I making this so hard for?

01:03:30.954 --> 01:03:32.655
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not getting anything out of it.

01:03:32.715 --> 01:03:40.119
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I know that you're maybe I'm supposed to do the tree first to like gain the benefits from it, but I was like, this is making it way too hard.

01:03:40.240 --> 01:03:40.440
[SPEAKER_00]: So,

01:03:41.120 --> 01:03:42.181
[SPEAKER_00]: I was doing just the best.

01:03:42.301 --> 01:03:43.202
[SPEAKER_00]: I was doing ritual.

01:03:43.603 --> 01:03:45.504
[SPEAKER_00]: I was having so much fun.

01:03:45.544 --> 01:03:56.155
[SPEAKER_00]: I still am having so much fun playing it and like the Atlas is is very it's really enjoyable because you have like a purpose and a reason for what you're doing when you're trying to unlock certain things and get your points.

01:03:56.595 --> 01:03:57.716
[SPEAKER_00]: I think one thing is that.

01:03:58.661 --> 01:04:06.105
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm finding now that the traveling to do something is quite boring, which is weird, but it's just, I'm doing a map now to just do a map.

01:04:06.345 --> 01:04:09.347
[SPEAKER_00]: That map's not going to result in anything with regards to the Atlas.

01:04:09.807 --> 01:04:11.988
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just I can put content onto it.

01:04:12.309 --> 01:04:14.070
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why I'm finding that odd, because...

01:04:14.870 --> 01:04:24.753
[SPEAKER_00]: That is what mapping is, but I've just done this entire Atlas progress where every map almost gave me something back, and now the past that would be the case, too, though, right?

01:04:24.833 --> 01:04:32.736
[SPEAKER_01]: When you had, uh, but when you had locked the rest of YouTube, masters and all, but everything like with Path 1, there was always a further purpose.

01:04:32.756 --> 01:04:35.097
[SPEAKER_01]: You were never doing a map for nothing.

01:04:35.897 --> 01:04:42.460
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you're all, you see, it's weird because you are doing a map for the travel to get towards that thing that you want to do.

01:04:43.161 --> 01:04:51.745
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just weird that, um, yeah, so anyway, I'm going to have in tons of fun doing ritual and a bist and but.

01:04:52.465 --> 01:04:54.087
[SPEAKER_00]: the only thing go ahead.

01:04:54.287 --> 01:04:58.712
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just going to say I loved your video of uh because you're not going to be able to do that anymore.

01:04:58.972 --> 01:05:01.074
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, like boxes can only show up one at a time.

01:05:01.094 --> 01:05:02.876
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you had five bosses at one.

01:05:02.896 --> 01:05:04.338
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you did great.

01:05:04.518 --> 01:05:05.639
[SPEAKER_01]: It was fun to kill them all.

01:05:05.779 --> 01:05:06.740
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it was phenomenal.

01:05:06.760 --> 01:05:07.181
[SPEAKER_01]: I loved it.

01:05:07.541 --> 01:05:08.082
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:05:08.142 --> 01:05:11.365
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and you're dodge rolling and going and I can't believe though.

01:05:12.337 --> 01:05:18.801
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they have these whirlwinds that take up no joke like two thirds of the ritual circle.

01:05:18.901 --> 01:05:22.483
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's the round on the wall and it doesn't, ah, it's so stupid.

01:05:22.543 --> 01:05:27.286
[SPEAKER_00]: It is very, but anyway, you did a phenomenal job and you can't do that anymore because now it's one boss at a time.

01:05:27.586 --> 01:05:32.509
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a good thing because it was getting pretty hectic and chaos, but it's my godman.

01:05:32.529 --> 01:05:38.012
[SPEAKER_00]: When the stuff you can do now with the Atlas and all the content that comes on to the map when you're doing it is a blast.

01:05:41.087 --> 01:05:43.468
[SPEAKER_00]: I, and they fixed a lot in this bubble.

01:05:43.508 --> 01:05:44.168
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it 0.5.2?

01:05:46.409 --> 01:05:48.029
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the patch.

01:05:48.269 --> 01:05:49.650
[SPEAKER_00]: That was just huge.

01:05:49.690 --> 01:05:50.990
[SPEAKER_00]: That one that just came out yesterday.

01:05:51.510 --> 01:05:54.691
[SPEAKER_00]: Massive, and almost all of my complaints, they fixed in there.

01:05:54.711 --> 01:05:56.592
[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't complete the rune seeker, which sucked.

01:05:56.632 --> 01:06:05.515
[SPEAKER_00]: I had no access to a bunch of the runes, and they fixed stuff that I was frustrated with delirium damage, things like that.

01:06:05.635 --> 01:06:05.855
[SPEAKER_00]: But.

01:06:06.735 --> 01:06:28.005
[SPEAKER_00]: The one thing that is just horrible and I brought this up before, but like their connection to one single portal or three single portals and what happens when a boss dies is I get it's almost made me quit playing and I'm loving purely to right now, which is the only reason I didn't because I if I just don't get it I get the idea of trying to make it like

01:06:29.467 --> 01:06:30.707
[SPEAKER_00]: whatever, I just disagree with them.

01:06:30.747 --> 01:06:33.568
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this idea of limiting portals first off is dumb.

01:06:33.649 --> 01:06:38.350
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate the idea that there's a master now that gives me one extra revivals.

01:06:38.390 --> 01:06:41.231
[SPEAKER_00]: So then I kind of feel like, I'm not going with that just at a spite.

01:06:41.251 --> 01:06:45.413
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, nope, I'd rather just roll less on the map and have three portals.

01:06:46.113 --> 01:06:50.716
[SPEAKER_00]: then be forced to choose the one that gives me one extra revival.

01:06:50.756 --> 01:06:52.597
[SPEAKER_00]: I just give me my freaking portals.

01:06:52.717 --> 01:07:04.944
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand this idea of removing reward from a player because I don't really, yeah, to make it harder, not sure, but like, if I go into it, I'm purposely rolling them four mods so that I get three portals.

01:07:05.044 --> 01:07:07.786
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I know, there's a chance I'm going to die, right?

01:07:07.806 --> 01:07:09.787
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is tanky, but I could miss out.

01:07:11.712 --> 01:07:17.955
[SPEAKER_00]: But when you're playing ritual, you're typically best to actually kill the boss first if there's a ritual on top of them, right?

01:07:17.975 --> 01:07:20.756
[SPEAKER_00]: Because then that boss is going to be part of all your other rituals.

01:07:21.116 --> 01:07:22.017
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't typically do that.

01:07:22.037 --> 01:07:23.378
[SPEAKER_00]: I just hit them as I go along.

01:07:23.818 --> 01:07:32.562
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you fight a boss, and he's in a ritual, and I kill the boss, and now I kill the ritual, everything's great.

01:07:33.702 --> 01:07:36.865
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I start the, now the boss is dead.

01:07:37.265 --> 01:07:43.591
[SPEAKER_00]: There might be still more to the map, but I'm in that ritual and I start that ritual and for some reason I die, that's the map gone.

01:07:43.771 --> 01:07:50.897
[SPEAKER_00]: Not only is the map gone, but all of the tribute that I've raised for my ritual, I'd have no options, that's all gone.

01:07:51.758 --> 01:07:53.659
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything else on the map is gone.

01:07:54.400 --> 01:07:55.441
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm like, well,

01:07:57.080 --> 01:08:17.710
[SPEAKER_00]: Because of a mistake because I died like that's why I'm purposefully rolling them for mods so that I have the expectation that I might die I don't get this obsession with tying things into the boss But that I beat the boss and then everything after that means the the map's just done if you die like I think that that's been overlooked or something Because it just doesn't make any sense it doesn't happen anywhere else in the map if I die in a ritual

01:08:18.390 --> 01:08:24.414
[SPEAKER_00]: It's fair, I lose out on any further tribute from that ritual, but I spawn back into the map and I can continue moving on.

01:08:24.755 --> 01:08:27.557
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't get this obsession with the boss, it drives me freaking nuts.

01:08:28.237 --> 01:08:31.179
[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting because they don't have a lot of time to nail this.

01:08:32.280 --> 01:08:39.385
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is what the last two years in my mind should be all about, figuring out this kind of balance and then adding content to it.

01:08:39.705 --> 01:08:39.905
[SPEAKER_01]: And...

01:08:41.086 --> 01:08:42.928
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a really weird twist.

01:08:42.968 --> 01:08:51.637
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything from what you're saying, tying it into the campaign, which teaches you to complete opposite is what happens and then all of a sudden you get to end game and then it's the opposite of that.

01:08:52.718 --> 01:08:55.620
[SPEAKER_01]: It really doesn't make...

01:08:56.541 --> 01:08:59.622
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of sense when you're encouraging the players to push.

01:08:59.942 --> 01:09:08.684
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, if you're going with the hardcore experience thing, great, but it still doesn't really intertwine well with the rules on what happens if boss does or doesn't die.

01:09:09.524 --> 01:09:20.207
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, sure, the definitely in terms of the interactions with the boss with League mechanics, we know that's kind of stuff will get fixed, but it's one of those things where

01:09:21.087 --> 01:09:24.511
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really confusing when things aren't straight forward.

01:09:24.651 --> 01:09:33.320
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's no reason for it to be complicated I feel like this is a war Lupole's and won't grow so be more direct.

01:09:33.380 --> 01:09:39.787
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like probably it doesn't make it just doesn't make any sense to me that I can die else we're in the map

01:09:40.920 --> 01:09:42.041
[SPEAKER_00]: and still continue on.

01:09:42.922 --> 01:09:48.287
[SPEAKER_00]: Dying to the boss for some reason, wipes the whole map, which I typically meant I just skipped the boss, right?

01:09:48.327 --> 01:09:51.170
[SPEAKER_00]: I clear the rest of the map, and then I would go and kill the boss.

01:09:51.831 --> 01:09:53.573
[SPEAKER_00]: The problem is we can tie ritual into that.

01:09:54.707 --> 01:10:15.639
[SPEAKER_00]: there's still more for me to do after I've killed the boss if he happens to be on the ritual which is actually like your best you want the boss on the ritual that's so much fun when if you hit the ritual first with the boss that means all your other rituals are going to have that boss at least spawning into it means more tribute but by the time I've killed that boss I've now it's not a three portal map anymore.

01:10:16.319 --> 01:10:17.421
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's one death.

01:10:17.502 --> 01:10:21.189
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have any deaths to give up for some reason because the boss is died.

01:10:21.229 --> 01:10:25.277
[SPEAKER_00]: I just it can't mean I just doesn't make any sense with that's meant to be that way.

01:10:25.698 --> 01:10:25.878
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

01:10:25.918 --> 01:10:26.059
[SPEAKER_00]: So

01:10:27.042 --> 01:10:28.963
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that got me super frustrated.

01:10:29.183 --> 01:10:45.874
[SPEAKER_00]: To the point where I was like, well, I'm not going to focus too much on ritual because as much as I'm really enjoying it, I'm rolling tablets, right, to play with ritual that give me increased tribute or give me increased re-roll chances or give me reduced cost of deferring.

01:10:46.495 --> 01:10:51.098
[SPEAKER_00]: But if I die to the boss, or if I die at the boss or after the boss,

01:10:51.998 --> 01:10:56.721
[SPEAKER_00]: All of the tributes gone, then I'm like, well, do I spend it ahead of going to it doesn't make any sense?

01:10:56.741 --> 01:11:03.784
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm actually sitting there thinking, like, I guess I should spend this tribute because, I mean, if I die, then it's all gone.

01:11:03.904 --> 01:11:06.966
[SPEAKER_00]: So I switch back to a base, which is actually a ton of fun.

01:11:06.986 --> 01:11:10.068
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so many monsters, but you have to boss.

01:11:10.508 --> 01:11:17.031
[SPEAKER_00]: I was so happy when I read the patch notes in point two, except that that just seems to be the way that it is.

01:11:17.112 --> 01:11:17.352
[SPEAKER_00]: So,

01:11:18.153 --> 01:11:18.773
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

01:11:18.973 --> 01:11:19.874
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm having so much fun.

01:11:19.894 --> 01:11:21.915
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Puy 2 is probably in the fun of state.

01:11:22.115 --> 01:11:30.018
[SPEAKER_00]: It's ever been oh my goodness picking up loot off the ground and crafting on it has been so much fun like it's really really.

01:11:30.539 --> 01:11:35.281
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting quite good stuff and if it's not, I just sell it and it's selling quite well.

01:11:36.041 --> 01:11:39.863
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've been enjoying the loot experience with my with my witch.

01:11:41.404 --> 01:11:41.964
[SPEAKER_01]: with my witch.

01:11:41.984 --> 01:11:43.205
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's good.

01:11:43.245 --> 01:11:44.786
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really glad you've had a good time.

01:11:44.886 --> 01:11:49.050
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously, I'm sorry for the frustrations, but at least it's not character frustrations.

01:11:49.130 --> 01:11:56.475
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, it's just game design stuff and you know they're listening, listening hard, listening well and I have been.

01:11:56.495 --> 01:11:59.898
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it has nothing to do with my personal preferences.

01:11:59.938 --> 01:12:05.502
[SPEAKER_01]: I've just been simply very impressed with their ability to honestly question themselves on everything and anything.

01:12:06.242 --> 01:12:17.393
[SPEAKER_01]: And it probably stands out in the magnifying glass a little bit simply because for a long time they were just sticklers about certain things just just sticklers over it.

01:12:17.413 --> 01:12:19.015
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we interrupted ourselves earlier.

01:12:19.255 --> 01:12:27.704
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a comment made in I think was it X or YouTuber forget in the screenshot that I sent you about

01:12:29.525 --> 01:12:30.666
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the death counter thing.

01:12:30.926 --> 01:12:44.354
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, somebody commented that's like, oh cool that they're like thinking about or working on a death counter I feel you brought up the fact that you think that's just like click bait or Sark on a like a certain even cross my mind that that could be sarcasm.

01:12:44.434 --> 01:12:49.316
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was apparently interview is is that's why I thought maybe you'd watch it Like so you're picked that you know me.

01:12:49.377 --> 01:12:50.757
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see.

01:12:51.017 --> 01:12:51.398
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.

01:12:52.098 --> 01:12:57.921
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see any comments about it later on though unless I missed it while I was giving so if there is a death counter

01:12:59.122 --> 01:13:01.843
[SPEAKER_01]: I like if they're working on one or thinking about it at least.

01:13:02.383 --> 01:13:09.946
[SPEAKER_01]: But my point is that I've been so very impressed with GGG with Path 2 being willing to sacrifice everything.

01:13:10.706 --> 01:13:11.286
[SPEAKER_01]: Most really.

01:13:11.486 --> 01:13:14.427
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why I still have hope for the Ascension process too.

01:13:14.567 --> 01:13:17.929
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they've really reverted on tons including how end game works.

01:13:18.529 --> 01:13:21.370
[SPEAKER_01]: The amount of design that goes into that.

01:13:22.250 --> 01:13:27.675
[SPEAKER_01]: long-term the amount of meetings you have and then to just change so much to separate times.

01:13:28.296 --> 01:13:29.977
[SPEAKER_01]: I have hoped for ascending.

01:13:30.197 --> 01:13:31.038
[SPEAKER_00]: I have hoped for ascending.

01:13:31.298 --> 01:13:35.322
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the things that I've liked about this patch is that 0.1 and 0.2.

01:13:36.122 --> 01:13:38.264
[SPEAKER_00]: They've just been like, no, we're changing it.

01:13:38.324 --> 01:13:41.027
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where early access has always been to me in other games.

01:13:41.047 --> 01:13:42.428
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, like right in the middle of a league.

01:13:42.428 --> 01:13:46.010
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a middle of the league, which they would never do some of that kind of stuff in the past, right?

01:13:46.030 --> 01:13:51.613
[SPEAKER_00]: They always said that if there's something overpowered or tuned, unless it's like a big problem, they won't do anything.

01:13:52.754 --> 01:13:59.337
[SPEAKER_00]: Seeing the changes in point 1 and point 2, that they're willing to adjust on, that's exactly what they're supposed to do in early access.

01:13:59.377 --> 01:14:00.418
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's awesome.

01:14:00.478 --> 01:14:08.643
[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't care less if they do something that bricks an overpowered build that's doing something it wasn't supposed to, like this is when they need to be spending time to figure out.

01:14:09.323 --> 01:14:10.504
[SPEAKER_00]: where things need to be balanced.

01:14:10.524 --> 01:14:16.086
[SPEAKER_00]: So 0.1 and 0.2 updates, especially two weeks, for two weeks in and we have two like massive patches.

01:14:16.126 --> 01:14:17.967
[SPEAKER_00]: I think um I think it's great.

01:14:18.147 --> 01:14:21.488
[SPEAKER_00]: It purely to is literally at my, it's my funnest thing to do right now.

01:14:21.548 --> 01:14:22.889
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't want to play other games.

01:14:24.469 --> 01:14:26.350
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really enjoying the mapping process.

01:14:26.370 --> 01:14:32.873
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm enjoying, you know, unlocking the Atlas trees and what it does when you play in the combos that you can do once you start rolling stuff.

01:14:34.053 --> 01:14:36.934
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, the my only gripe is just death around the boss.

01:14:36.994 --> 01:14:43.197
[SPEAKER_00]: It just doesn't make the sense to me, but other levels with portals Yeah, the portal thing I think is silly.

01:14:43.357 --> 01:14:50.040
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't whatever that's something that they've just always done since puey two But um, but otherwise, man, the the game is so much fun.

01:14:50.060 --> 01:14:54.481
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I just I really really enjoy all the different things that I can do with it right now So it's cool.

01:14:55.182 --> 01:14:55.822
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this cool

01:14:56.154 --> 01:14:57.134
[SPEAKER_00]: Looking forward to the rest.

01:14:57.354 --> 01:15:03.156
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of like the idea that this is a six month league because I can just like chill with my characters I'm not a rush.

01:15:03.216 --> 01:15:08.857
[SPEAKER_01]: I can just keep going and see which one I like over time long term and I don't know.

01:15:09.217 --> 01:15:11.818
[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoy the the piece and the comfort of it.

01:15:12.678 --> 01:15:18.520
[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot that I took a couple screenshots that I was going to share with you while I was leveling.

01:15:20.347 --> 01:15:29.830
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, because the camera's crap because I like to complain about the campaigns be in the campaign lines because I think it's awful too long.

01:15:30.411 --> 01:15:37.333
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I did take a screenshot after I completed everything and I completed it in eight hours and 25 minutes.

01:15:37.433 --> 01:15:43.795
[SPEAKER_00]: Which is a massive improvement from what it used to be where it was like 16 to 14 hours.

01:15:43.815 --> 01:15:45.576
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess it took me forever to get through it.

01:15:46.316 --> 01:15:51.705
[SPEAKER_00]: I did go full unique and full as fast as I could go and I ascended much earlier.

01:15:51.805 --> 01:15:56.773
[SPEAKER_00]: I died 16 times and all of those I can remember to the same like same area.

01:15:56.793 --> 01:15:57.614
[SPEAKER_00]: I can remember what it was.

01:15:59.718 --> 01:16:00.499
[SPEAKER_00]: That's at least better.

01:16:01.868 --> 01:16:06.831
[SPEAKER_00]: Then what it used to be, it's not as good to me as the POE one times, but it's definitely an improvement.

01:16:06.931 --> 01:16:09.332
[SPEAKER_00]: I like I think the state is getting closer to it.

01:16:09.432 --> 01:16:10.953
[SPEAKER_00]: I still don't like to do it.

01:16:10.973 --> 01:16:13.054
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like I went through the campaign already one time.

01:16:13.674 --> 01:16:17.556
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to do it two times, but it was nice to have a direction.

01:16:18.137 --> 01:16:23.379
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, at the end of the day, if you know where you're going in general, it's good.

01:16:23.880 --> 01:16:26.441
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I have no idea where I am with the league content.

01:16:28.390 --> 01:16:33.036
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if I need to find more runes, if I've missed some or not, because it's just exploring.

01:16:34.583 --> 01:16:46.874
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't always notice the guy at the beginning there's just so much talking in this one so much clicking so many and be like I honestly like kind of zoned out with it and just want to ignore it and I'm not trying to ignore it.

01:16:46.894 --> 01:16:53.460
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not intentionally avoiding it but I have no idea if Pharaoh's kicking around in that act and a half behind waiting for me to do something.

01:16:53.480 --> 01:16:56.463
[SPEAKER_00]: It'll show up as a quest for you at least so you always go back and do it.

01:16:56.543 --> 01:16:57.844
[SPEAKER_00]: What I don't like though is that it's

01:16:58.585 --> 01:17:00.026
[SPEAKER_00]: that you have to do it at that point.

01:17:00.126 --> 01:17:02.688
[SPEAKER_00]: It will not unlock later on in the game.

01:17:03.468 --> 01:17:11.594
[SPEAKER_00]: And because it was broken, I spent all up until yesterday without a bunch of the ruins because it was broken and didn't work for center characters.

01:17:12.254 --> 01:17:19.899
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think a great example for what I would love like I don't really, obviously I don't want the areas to be too big.

01:17:19.979 --> 01:17:21.860
[SPEAKER_01]: But for leveling a great example would

01:17:28.184 --> 01:17:40.167
[SPEAKER_01]: you kill the guy who's he's got like the circle thingy that you put into the wall and it unlocks the barrier and then that's also where you go into like the spider area and then it's zero.

01:17:40.247 --> 01:17:41.767
[SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, okay.

01:17:41.787 --> 01:17:42.587
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

01:17:43.227 --> 01:17:46.068
[SPEAKER_01]: But the lady bandit is also in there.

01:17:46.408 --> 01:17:46.788
[SPEAKER_01]: I forget it.

01:17:46.808 --> 01:17:48.348
[SPEAKER_01]: Alira, Alira, right.

01:17:48.748 --> 01:17:54.489
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you have all of that there and that's a big area if it's your first time you don't know it's going on.

01:17:54.509 --> 01:17:55.790
[SPEAKER_01]: There's lots to go.

01:17:55.870 --> 01:17:56.530
[SPEAKER_01]: Where do I go?

01:17:57.270 --> 01:18:02.314
[SPEAKER_01]: But once you know it, you can just follow the path because there is a path, right?

01:18:02.334 --> 01:18:03.876
[SPEAKER_01]: You follow the path, you get the waypoint.

01:18:03.896 --> 01:18:08.920
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, okay, cool, the lyrics on the waypoint side, spiders on the opposite side.

01:18:08.940 --> 01:18:10.441
[SPEAKER_01]: And we know dudes at the very end.

01:18:10.501 --> 01:18:10.681
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:18:11.002 --> 01:18:14.144
[SPEAKER_01]: So now, okay, now I go find a lira, sweet.

01:18:14.585 --> 01:18:19.149
[SPEAKER_01]: Now I hug it all until I hit the buddy with the circle magic.

01:18:19.929 --> 01:18:22.371
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I keep hugging it all until I say spider lady.

01:18:23.497 --> 01:18:26.859
[SPEAKER_01]: And I have a system no matter what the layout is.

01:18:27.319 --> 01:18:34.104
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that it gets into maybe, but there are some areas in path to that are not on the wall.

01:18:34.384 --> 01:18:38.286
[SPEAKER_01]: They're in the center and the areas are so big for that.

01:18:38.947 --> 01:18:48.213
[SPEAKER_01]: And unless from whatever checkpoint you have that there's going to be a follow the yellow brick road, it's not fun to explore.

01:18:49.697 --> 01:18:50.518
[SPEAKER_01]: when you don't care.

01:18:51.759 --> 01:18:52.379
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:18:53.060 --> 01:19:05.550
[SPEAKER_01]: And even if you do care about the lore, you only care so often you have to have to design your content like it's going to be crazy repetitive.

01:19:06.470 --> 01:19:10.013
[SPEAKER_01]: You want these players to play your game over and over and over again.

01:19:10.394 --> 01:19:13.116
[SPEAKER_01]: So what's this going to be like the 10th time, the 20th time, the 40th time?

01:19:14.777 --> 01:19:22.802
[SPEAKER_01]: Do I really want to explore an area in Act 2 to its fullest degree just to find the entrance to this one cave or whatever, right?

01:19:23.603 --> 01:19:29.706
[SPEAKER_01]: So, like I think in where is it where you meet Alva near the waterways, the Venom crypts is always super close.

01:19:30.407 --> 01:19:30.687
[SPEAKER_01]: Great.

01:19:31.027 --> 01:19:31.407
[SPEAKER_01]: Love that.

01:19:31.508 --> 01:19:34.710
[SPEAKER_01]: It would suck if it was elsewhere, but not every area is like that, right?

01:19:34.830 --> 01:19:34.990
[SPEAKER_01]: So,

01:19:35.630 --> 01:19:36.331
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they'll get there.

01:19:37.031 --> 01:19:39.333
[SPEAKER_01]: I think their intention as well.

01:19:39.554 --> 01:19:43.657
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the campaign is doing a relatively decent job with checkpoints.

01:19:45.059 --> 01:19:48.462
[SPEAKER_01]: The mapping experience is horrendous with it.

01:19:49.638 --> 01:19:50.479
[SPEAKER_00]: They're you in maps up.

01:19:50.519 --> 01:19:51.980
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, you're not yet in this league.

01:19:52.100 --> 01:19:52.220
[SPEAKER_00]: No.

01:19:52.500 --> 01:19:57.924
[SPEAKER_01]: I've ended up by mapping like my reference point are these areas that are just really good without checkpoints.

01:19:57.944 --> 01:19:58.484
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:19:58.524 --> 01:20:04.789
[SPEAKER_01]: Like when you get into Dorianni section where you have the small sole core here, sole core there and then you come back and get the big one.

01:20:05.249 --> 01:20:08.371
[SPEAKER_01]: That area is great when it comes to checkpoints, but you get to another area.

01:20:08.391 --> 01:20:09.752
[SPEAKER_01]: There's just a big open area.

01:20:09.973 --> 01:20:14.976
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's you know, I can't believe I did all this and I have to go back now.

01:20:15.436 --> 01:20:15.597
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:20:17.778 --> 01:20:18.799
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, dying sucks.

01:20:20.240 --> 01:20:21.200
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, that's cool.

01:20:21.901 --> 01:20:22.701
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm having fun.

01:20:23.022 --> 01:20:24.223
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no really good state.

01:20:24.243 --> 01:20:30.207
[SPEAKER_00]: I think endgame has been I don't know there's just stuff to do which is so cool.

01:20:30.267 --> 01:20:36.231
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I really feel like I've always got something to do every time I log in Yeah, all right.

01:20:37.171 --> 01:20:37.872
[SPEAKER_00]: It's done with you.

01:20:38.693 --> 01:20:39.293
[SPEAKER_00]: It really is.

01:20:39.474 --> 01:20:39.974
[SPEAKER_00]: It really is.

01:20:40.014 --> 01:20:40.454
[SPEAKER_00]: It really is.

01:20:40.514 --> 01:20:41.075
[SPEAKER_00]: It really is.

01:20:41.095 --> 01:20:41.875
[SPEAKER_01]: It broke the motor.

01:20:41.915 --> 01:20:43.536
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like my microwave.

01:20:43.596 --> 01:20:44.617
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like my microwave.

01:20:44.637 --> 01:20:46.138
[SPEAKER_01]: My microwaves on a union thing.

01:20:46.178 --> 01:20:48.279
[SPEAKER_01]: It only likes to work like once or twice a day.

01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:51.241
[SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, it's like beeping gets aggressive.

01:20:51.821 --> 01:20:52.301
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's old.

01:20:52.362 --> 01:20:52.802
[SPEAKER_01]: It's on the way.

01:20:52.822 --> 01:20:53.122
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like.

01:20:53.562 --> 01:20:55.223
[SPEAKER_01]: Babe.

01:20:55.644 --> 01:20:57.265
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like on unscheduled over time.

01:20:57.485 --> 01:20:57.745
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

01:20:57.945 --> 01:20:58.365
[SPEAKER_01]: Camera?

01:20:58.565 --> 01:20:58.986
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you done?

01:20:59.386 --> 01:21:00.547
[SPEAKER_01]: You have like a one hour limit?

01:21:01.647 --> 01:21:01.907
[SPEAKER_01]: Sweet.

01:21:02.528 --> 01:21:04.349
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, see you later.

01:21:05.721 --> 01:21:06.621
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited to keep playing.

01:21:07.422 --> 01:21:07.742
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man.

01:21:08.262 --> 01:21:10.504
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know.

01:21:10.524 --> 01:21:13.145
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see what two weak springs with regards to playing PUE1.

01:21:13.845 --> 01:21:15.066
[SPEAKER_00]: So the match is enjoying PUE2.

01:21:16.147 --> 01:21:16.927
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's more and two.

01:21:16.947 --> 01:21:19.188
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no PUE1 is four weeks away.

01:21:19.989 --> 01:21:21.409
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's July 24.

01:21:21.489 --> 01:21:23.190
[SPEAKER_00]: OK, yeah.

01:21:23.891 --> 01:21:24.631
[SPEAKER_00]: So I got some time.

01:21:24.731 --> 01:21:25.892
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll definitely be bored by then.

01:21:26.852 --> 01:21:29.033
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't believe I got the VxL for six more weeks, there's no way.

01:21:29.133 --> 01:21:30.374
[SPEAKER_00]: I might be in maps by then.

01:21:32.175 --> 01:21:33.356
[SPEAKER_00]: We'd be pretty good in next one.

01:21:34.528 --> 01:21:35.869
[SPEAKER_00]: You did pretty good neck one.

01:21:35.909 --> 01:21:36.849
[SPEAKER_00]: No, you were good too, though.

01:21:37.209 --> 01:21:37.749
[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't die.

01:21:38.570 --> 01:21:39.530
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, we're at that once.

01:21:39.830 --> 01:21:40.030
[SPEAKER_01]: Great.

01:21:40.130 --> 01:21:41.971
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's good.

01:21:42.191 --> 01:21:42.852
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad you're playing.

01:21:42.872 --> 01:21:43.652
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad you're liking it.

01:21:44.032 --> 01:21:46.333
[SPEAKER_00]: And, um, I'm having fun too.

01:21:48.215 --> 01:21:48.415
[SPEAKER_00]: kit.

01:21:49.555 --> 01:21:54.577
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01:21:55.117 --> 01:22:04.300
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01:22:04.320 --> 01:22:05.800
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